9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB" -First Responder Turned Investigator Adam Eisenberg| Pt. 2

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2:44 Speaker 2: with Adam today and I'm just just wanted to recap.

2:51 Speaker 2: So what we've gone over is your response to the Pentagon.

2:56 Speaker 2: So can you quickly recap what we've talked about today

3:00 Speaker 2: and we'll start kind of going off of that.

3:02 Speaker 3: Of course, spent from the eleventh of September to the thirtieth,

3:06 Speaker 3: approximately two hundred and forty hours on site, engaged in

3:11 Speaker 3: heavy and light labor primarily, and also did a couple

3:16 Speaker 3: other tasks here and there along the way, kind of

3:19 Speaker 3: like folding the flag. We did a flag retirement ceremony

3:21 Speaker 3: the month after.

3:23 Speaker 2: We have a picture of that. I believe that we

3:25 Speaker 2: can probably play right now.

3:26 Speaker 3: Sure did that. Also, you know, there was a lot

3:31 Speaker 3: of other things that the Old Guard did because I

3:33 Speaker 3: wasn't just a member there, but the Old Guard soldiers

3:35 Speaker 3: that were there also did evidence sifting in the north

3:39 Speaker 3: parking lot, They did body recovery. I did body recovery

3:42 Speaker 3: as well. They secured the area, so there was there

3:46 Speaker 3: was a lot of things happening on site, and there

3:49 Speaker 3: was between six and seven hundred people from my unit

3:52 Speaker 3: that were tasked to do this this stuff. So who.

4:00 Speaker 2: God so again, and I remember that day just being

4:06 Speaker 2: just so chaotic. I can't even imagine what the response

4:10 Speaker 2: and being on site was like. Yeah, and it's just

4:14 Speaker 2: it's so bizarre to me to think that you at

4:19 Speaker 2: you live with that experience. Yeah, two and forty hours

4:24 Speaker 2: of being on site of one the most tragic on

4:35 Speaker 2: US soil attack. Because I mean, obviously this Pearl Harbor

4:40 Speaker 2: as well, but that wasn't on the mainland, but this

4:42 Speaker 2: was like the mainland United States, the heart of our country.

4:46 Speaker 2: This is there's not really many things that like this

4:49 Speaker 2: that have ever happened. You are literally part of history,

4:54 Speaker 2: and it's bad history.

4:55 Speaker 3: It took me a while to really fully process that statement.

4:58 Speaker 3: You're right, it's a it's a very small fraternity of people.

5:02 Speaker 3: And then to know how history changed so dramatically from

5:07 Speaker 3: that event, and then to sit in presence with knowing

5:10 Speaker 3: that I don't believe the story and that in the

5:12 Speaker 3: two hundred and forty hours, and I'm gonna say it

5:14 Speaker 3: very clearly, so everybody, can you know that's just now

5:17 Speaker 3: joining us or you know, just to you know, recalibrate

5:20 Speaker 3: what we're saying here. Two hundred and forty hours never

5:23 Speaker 3: saw a single airplane component whatsoever, not even a nut,

5:27 Speaker 3: a bolt that screw nothing. From the very beginning, never

5:31 Speaker 3: saw any bodies that were inside the building that looked

5:35 Speaker 3: like they were killed as a result of an aeronautical crash.

5:41 Speaker 3: Never saw anything that looked like personal effects that you

5:44 Speaker 3: would anticipate seeing on a plane, like luggage, anything of

5:49 Speaker 3: this nature. And that was from the very beginning. So

5:53 Speaker 3: and I never saw a response that seemed like there

5:56 Speaker 3: was a legitimate effort being made. I think the firefighters

5:59 Speaker 3: that were engaged in their response, certainly we're trying to

6:03 Speaker 3: do the best they could, and we can look at

6:05 Speaker 3: that several of them were injured. Several first responders had

6:09 Speaker 3: problems that day, you know, they got hurt. And so

6:13 Speaker 3: this is, of course, I want to make it very clear.

6:16 Speaker 3: I don't believe that Arlington Fire had any hand in

6:20 Speaker 3: the dirty dealings. But I think that our federal apparatus,

6:23 Speaker 3: and what I'm confident my work will show is where

6:27 Speaker 3: questions should start to be asked. Right right, So when

6:32 Speaker 3: did you start?

6:34 Speaker 2: When did you begin filing Floyer requests? When did this

6:38 Speaker 2: turn into an investigation?

6:40 Speaker 3: So down the road that all began in twenty twenty,

6:43 Speaker 3: because I sat on this information for a long period

6:47 Speaker 3: of time, really only talking about it in small circles,

6:51 Speaker 3: family circles, trusted friends, things of that nature. And when

6:54 Speaker 3: I saw COVID for what it was, that was the

6:59 Speaker 3: incident that really, in my humble opinion, took it up

7:03 Speaker 3: a notch. And I finally said to myself, the same

7:05 Speaker 3: forces that essentially conducted that, if you're truly understanding how

7:10 Speaker 3: the United States is being brought to its knees right

7:13 Speaker 3: now in the very world for that matter, you have

7:15 Speaker 3: to work your way back at a number of different events.

7:18 Speaker 3: And ultimately, you know, I was a part of one

7:20 Speaker 3: of those events in a really big way, and so

7:23 Speaker 3: I started to really speak out on it in twenty

7:26 Speaker 3: twenty at the end of twenty twenty, that's when I

7:28 Speaker 3: started seeing twenty twenty.

7:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, the pandemic kind of backfired on them

7:33 Speaker 2: for a lot of people. That's when they started to

7:35 Speaker 2: open their eyesep And it's like, you gave everybody the

7:38 Speaker 2: time to just self reflect and look and be mad,

7:42 Speaker 2: and that was probably a bad choice.

7:46 Speaker 3: Well, we're now looking at two different realities. There are

7:49 Speaker 3: these people that still cling to this idea of what

7:52 Speaker 3: America should be and could be. But you know, they

7:56 Speaker 3: thought it was, and then there's other people that see

7:59 Speaker 3: the entire federal life apparatus is being overtaken in key areas.

8:03 Speaker 3: To go back to your original question, when I started

8:06 Speaker 3: to speak out on the event, and when I started

8:08 Speaker 3: to realize that the academic resources are incredibly shallow, I

8:15 Speaker 3: started to ask, you know, why is that the case.

8:17 Speaker 3: We can point at people that have written about the

8:20 Speaker 3: event and they talk about where the nine to eleven

8:22 Speaker 3: commission fell short. You know, then there's questions that come

8:25 Speaker 3: up when you really start to study the event, like

8:27 Speaker 3: why was Titan Systems Corporation brought in to produce the

8:31 Speaker 3: after action responsibilities for the FBI, the Arlington Fire, and

8:36 Speaker 3: the Defense Protective Services which is the Pentagon Police. So

8:39 Speaker 3: I started asking myself these questions, and ultimately, when I

8:42 Speaker 3: stumbled into the individuals that need to be questioned further,

8:46 Speaker 3: they were saying the things and that's when I truly

8:48 Speaker 3: started to try to dissect this from an academic standpoint.

8:52 Speaker 3: So I started reaching out to every single state, local

8:56 Speaker 3: federal agency with Foyer requests, just asking them, you know,

8:59 Speaker 3: for a wide range of things. Ultimately, they could not

9:02 Speaker 3: provide anything, which most of them can't I just said,

9:05 Speaker 3: you know, a simple after action report would do what

9:09 Speaker 3: can you provide me in that case? And most of

9:11 Speaker 3: them can't provide anything, And then they try to give excuses.

9:15 Speaker 3: There's so many interesting excuses that I've been given over

9:18 Speaker 3: the years, but they ultimately try to fall onto this

9:22 Speaker 3: idea that the documents were destroyed due to time overlap

9:26 Speaker 3: after a certain amount of time, and it's like, well,

9:28 Speaker 3: I could believe that if it was just some random

9:31 Speaker 3: Tuesday and this was some kind of an event that

9:33 Speaker 3: didn't have such a terrible series of other events upon

9:38 Speaker 3: the world.

9:38 Speaker 2: This should be the most well documented you get it,

9:43 Speaker 2: This should be the single most well documented day in

9:49 Speaker 2: the nation's history ever. Ever. The amount of technological advancement

9:56 Speaker 2: that we were going through at this time in two

9:59 Speaker 2: thousand and one, you could argue, like you can for

10:02 Speaker 2: every year that is, you know taking place, you are

10:05 Speaker 2: at the pinnacle of technol technology. And at that time

10:11 Speaker 2: we are so far in you know, the Internet is

10:14 Speaker 2: starting to burst right the the the dot com bubbles

10:19 Speaker 2: about to is emerging, Like the techno environment was being built.

10:26 Speaker 2: This new world was emerging and everyone it wasn't that

10:32 Speaker 2: everyone was connected yet, but we were on the precipice

10:34 Speaker 2: of it, there should be I mean, and with just

10:38 Speaker 2: two thousand and one in general, like the you know

10:42 Speaker 2: the two thousands, you know the millennium, it's the millennium.

10:46 Speaker 3: Right, especially in this day, in this event day.

10:49 Speaker 2: It should be the most well documented like it should

10:52 Speaker 2: and and all yeah, as all of that aside, this

10:55 Speaker 2: is something that you'd expect. I mean, homicide case is

11:00 Speaker 2: have more evidence than nine to eleven.

11:02 Speaker 3: It is so historically shallow. Wait till you guys see

11:05 Speaker 3: my book. That's all I'm gonna say. There's there's a

11:07 Speaker 3: lot of different components I'm gonna include. I'm going to

11:10 Speaker 3: show very clearly all the FOYA responses I've received.

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12:46 Speaker 2: How common is it for military records to disappear?

12:49 Speaker 3: What's funny you say that, that's another aspect of my

12:52 Speaker 3: journey I've done over the course of time. Between then

12:56 Speaker 3: when the attack occurred and now I've had to basically

13:00 Speaker 3: gather as much evidence as I can possibly produce on

13:04 Speaker 3: my own military history. And in twenty seventeen and in

13:08 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, I went to the Federal Archives and I

13:13 Speaker 3: was like, all right, send me my military paperwork. I

13:17 Speaker 3: would like a copy of everything you have.

13:21 Speaker 2: Yourself.

13:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, the vast amount of my military documents. And I'm

13:25 Speaker 3: not the only person that can say this from my unit.

13:27 Speaker 3: Other people from my unit have come forward and they're like,

13:30 Speaker 3: what the hell are missing? So if you do a

13:34 Speaker 3: records request, and I'm going to show all of this

13:35 Speaker 3: in my book, if you do a records request for

13:38 Speaker 3: my information, you'll see that they can produce the documents

13:43 Speaker 3: from the MEPs, which is the Military Entrance Processing Station.

13:46 Speaker 3: That's where you go before you go to basic training,

13:48 Speaker 3: so they did all their final walkthroughs. They can provide that.

13:52 Speaker 3: They can also provide a copy of the awards and

13:57 Speaker 3: the decorations that I received at the Primary Leadership Development

14:01 Speaker 3: course because that was an entity outside of my unit.

14:04 Speaker 3: I was on the commandants list there. It was like

14:06 Speaker 3: the top ten percent of the class got on the

14:08 Speaker 3: commandants list, and night so I got recognized.

14:10 Speaker 2: For that, but safe to say, you were good at

14:12 Speaker 2: what you did.

14:13 Speaker 3: I tried, and I had to show all this shit,

14:15 Speaker 3: and you know, all my awards and decorations. I was

14:19 Speaker 3: decorated seven times in four years. I went from e

14:22 Speaker 3: nothing to sergeant in four years. All the awards that

14:27 Speaker 3: I received from my unit are gone. You can't even

14:31 Speaker 3: get a copy of a d D two fourteen. I've

14:34 Speaker 3: got my originals, thank god, but I have not been

14:38 Speaker 3: able to get a copy of my DD two fourteen.

14:40 Speaker 3: And I'm not the only person in my unit that

14:42 Speaker 3: can say that. That's a huge anomaly. And so it's

14:46 Speaker 3: the people that also responded to this event that have

14:49 Speaker 3: been whitewashed historically from the documents. And I'm going to

14:52 Speaker 3: show that in a lot of ways. We are found

14:54 Speaker 3: in several items. But the straightforward path as to who

14:59 Speaker 3: deployed us, what you know, the timeline for everything, it

15:02 Speaker 3: wasn't very laid out. I ended up finding it from

15:05 Speaker 3: a book called the Medical Response to nine to eleven.

15:08 Speaker 3: That's where I was able to uncover that there was

15:10 Speaker 3: a meeting right on the White House lawn where a

15:13 Speaker 3: general by the name of George Weldon told the Military

15:18 Speaker 3: District of Command, you know, Washington Commander James Jackson, I

15:21 Speaker 3: want you to get a responsive element on the ground immediately.

15:25 Speaker 3: And because we were part of and that was you,

15:28 Speaker 3: that was us, Yeah, that was that was us.

15:30 Speaker 2: And so that's documented evidence that you guys were.

15:34 Speaker 3: But it was in a book that came out years

15:37 Speaker 3: years later.

15:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's crazy to me to think that they

15:41 Speaker 2: could do that. I mean, do you think this is

15:44 Speaker 2: bureaucratic incompetence or do you think this is blatant whitewashed

15:50 Speaker 2: and whitewashing. This is bizarre when you see.

15:54 Speaker 3: The types of responses that come from my foyer requests.

15:58 Speaker 3: Most of them just say, hey, look we've got no

16:00 Speaker 3: records responsive to your request, and it's you know, nothing,

16:04 Speaker 3: I mean, not even an after action report, nothing where

16:07 Speaker 3: you where you see from an academic standpoint that there

16:11 Speaker 3: was a problem. The ATF Alcohol tobacco Firearms actually did

16:16 Speaker 3: it a AAR on the event, which was incredible. You

16:19 Speaker 3: could see signatures, they had skin in the game, the

16:21 Speaker 3: people that were serving on site where they were signing

16:24 Speaker 3: off on it. Everybody was signing off on it. They

16:27 Speaker 3: had names. This is you know what we learned this

16:30 Speaker 3: is what we did. You know, this every way it

16:31 Speaker 3: should be done, the way it should be done, and

16:33 Speaker 3: it was done within a month. They gave this within

16:36 Speaker 3: a month. Here's our assessment. They were brutal to the FBI.

16:41 Speaker 3: They were. They were extremely brutal to the point where

16:44 Speaker 3: they were, like, the FBI is disjointed. They're not including

16:48 Speaker 3: us in their daily meetings that we we had to,

16:51 Speaker 3: you know, provide reminders to FBI agents on how to

16:55 Speaker 3: do their job when it came to you know, there

16:58 Speaker 3: was one incident where a doll thought that they found

17:01 Speaker 3: a bomb and this bomb started to get like addressed

17:04 Speaker 3: by somebody in the FBI, and he wasn't following any

17:06 Speaker 3: protocol whatsoever, like the atf this is him interagency.

17:13 Speaker 2: Essentially, not with like but you have red flags being

17:19 Speaker 2: sent up by agencies saying listen this, the FBI is

17:22 Speaker 2: incompetent at what they're doing right now.

17:24 Speaker 3: Yes.

17:25 Speaker 2: So, the even the intelligence failures quote unquote, the intelligence

17:30 Speaker 2: failures that led to nine to eleven in the aftermath

17:34 Speaker 2: of nine to eleven are still an issue of compartmentalization

17:38 Speaker 2: and dick swinging.

17:40 Speaker 3: It's it's fascinating to see.

17:42 Speaker 2: It we're covering up, straight up covering it up.

17:44 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Well, there's a case where I asked the

17:46 Speaker 3: DC Region. I said, hey, you guys are quoted three

17:51 Speaker 3: times in the reference section of this after action report.

17:55 Speaker 3: It's Titan Systems Corporation literally said, these are reference materials

18:00 Speaker 3: that are included in the reference section. I went to

18:02 Speaker 3: DC and I was like, can I have them please?

18:06 Speaker 3: And they were like, oh, no, you're asking for documents

18:09 Speaker 3: that show the sensitivities and the and I was like, no,

18:14 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm asking for historically relevant documents where it's

18:19 Speaker 3: said to exist. Same with the Arlington County Sheriff. I

18:22 Speaker 3: specifically went to the Arlington County Sheriff. I'm like, it

18:25 Speaker 3: says right here in the reference section of this document

18:28 Speaker 3: that you guys provided an AAR Can I have it.

18:31 Speaker 3: They're like, we've got nothing response to this request. Most

18:33 Speaker 3: of the agencies in Virginia. I didn't know this, but

18:36 Speaker 3: there's a law in five different states. Virginia is one

18:40 Speaker 3: of them where if you are an out of state individual,

18:44 Speaker 3: they don't have to give you shit.

18:45 Speaker 2: So it's not freedom of information.

18:49 Speaker 3: And so I had to get and this was a

18:51 Speaker 3: pain in the ass. I had to get somebody in

18:54 Speaker 3: the state of Goal to do these things for me.

18:58 Speaker 3: Oh and thank god it was an old comp any

19:00 Speaker 3: commander of mine, which the man's a gangster. He was great.

19:03 Speaker 3: He made a career out of the military.

19:05 Speaker 2: So you know, he knew the game and how plan.

19:08 Speaker 3: He helped me out very much. But yeah, So the

19:12 Speaker 3: vast majority of the agencies that were involved in the response,

19:16 Speaker 3: there's no historical data to show they were even a

19:19 Speaker 3: part of it in the main documents. You have to

19:21 Speaker 3: get down into like the documents and the books that

19:24 Speaker 3: came out after the fact that were written by like

19:27 Speaker 3: the Department of Defense historical societies, and you know, that's

19:31 Speaker 3: where you start to get into the data. They're not

19:33 Speaker 3: in the premiere.

19:35 Speaker 2: Documents where they should be, where they should be, like

19:37 Speaker 2: the most pertinent documents should be. Yeah, you're not seeing them. No,

19:42 Speaker 2: And do you think that they do exist and they're

19:44 Speaker 2: just not giving them to you, or do you think

19:47 Speaker 2: that they really just didn't do their job so that

19:50 Speaker 2: they could just claim not neglect but incompetence.

19:54 Speaker 3: Well it so some agencies have really shown me that

19:58 Speaker 3: they're trying. I revisited a lot of these agencies, and

20:02 Speaker 3: I was like, hey, I did request before you told

20:05 Speaker 3: me no because I lived out of state. Now I've

20:06 Speaker 3: got an actual person that's in state helping me, and

20:09 Speaker 3: so in most of these circumstances, people would say, we

20:12 Speaker 3: need extra time, so they would really try to do

20:15 Speaker 3: the due diligence. In the case of Loudon County, Virginia,

20:20 Speaker 3: the sheriff's office was like, you've stumped us. We've contacted

20:23 Speaker 3: former sheriffs, we've contacted people that aren't even in this

20:26 Speaker 3: office anymore. So they're getting those types of responses.

20:30 Speaker 2: Do you think that also does kind of a service though,

20:33 Speaker 2: because it opens those guys' eyes to the actual like

20:36 Speaker 2: what they're a part of, what they're actually a part of.

20:39 Speaker 2: So it's almost, in a way, you're not coming up

20:41 Speaker 2: with the result, but you're also you gotta think that

20:45 Speaker 2: those guys are going if we're stumped, and we're telling

20:49 Speaker 2: you we're stumped, that's probably an issue.

20:51 Speaker 3: When I talked to that guy from the Department of

20:54 Speaker 3: Justice Office of Justice Programs, and he couldn't even provide

20:57 Speaker 3: me with a single document, and he called me on

20:59 Speaker 3: the phone, couldn't provide me with a damn thing that

21:02 Speaker 3: pointed to any information on the grant that came from

21:05 Speaker 3: the DOJ that was he was kind of like you

21:08 Speaker 3: could hear in his voice. You're like, he's like, I

21:10 Speaker 3: don't know what to tell you, dude. But I A

21:13 Speaker 3: lot of people have also made recommendations as to where

21:16 Speaker 3: I should look, and I use those words. I'm like, hey,

21:19 Speaker 3: you know this agency said I should look to you.

21:22 Speaker 3: You know, this is a FOY officer, that's an attorney

21:24 Speaker 3: saying that I should look to you. And so I

21:27 Speaker 3: use that type of language to further strengthen, but eventually

21:31 Speaker 3: I also get down, like in the case of Virginia,

21:34 Speaker 3: the Library of Virginia is a place where a lot

21:36 Speaker 3: of institutions basically send their documentation when it's like been

21:42 Speaker 3: years beyond and it's like that's where it's supposed to.

21:44 Speaker 2: Be, the archive, yeah and nothing.

21:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. Some institutions have been like, well, you know, there's

21:51 Speaker 3: there's boxes and warehouses. We could go dig them up,

21:54 Speaker 3: but we we don't think that it's going to be

21:56 Speaker 3: very valuable. And if we did it, regardless of whether

21:59 Speaker 3: or not we got something, there would be an astronomical

22:01 Speaker 3: cost associated.

22:02 Speaker 2: With it, which you have to patch. I have to pay,

22:04 Speaker 2: which they don't tell you.

22:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they do tell you, but you they give

22:08 Speaker 3: you estimates.

22:10 Speaker 2: But it's not in the marketing of freedom of information

22:13 Speaker 2: that you might have to pay an astronomical fee for

22:16 Speaker 2: them to go dig up boxes.

22:17 Speaker 3: I jokingly said to my research assistant Xander Arena. I

22:20 Speaker 3: was like, I showed them an email from Fairfax County

22:22 Speaker 3: and I was like, do I play the Fairfax County lottery?

22:25 Speaker 3: You know, it would have been like five hundred bucks

22:27 Speaker 3: just to go diving into some boxes. And we didn't

22:30 Speaker 3: really think it was going to be a valuable use

22:31 Speaker 3: of time because the way that it works, if you

22:33 Speaker 3: make a refoyer request, they're supposed to put a pretty

22:35 Speaker 3: decent amount of due diligence into that search two hours

22:39 Speaker 3: for free. And my thought is simple, if you can't

22:42 Speaker 3: come up with anything, and you are that agency and

22:45 Speaker 3: you spend two hours of your time and you can't

22:48 Speaker 3: come up with shit, that in and of itself is

22:51 Speaker 3: a problem. Yeah, it's a problem.

22:53 Speaker 2: It's a it's a crucial error in our in our

22:57 Speaker 2: in our system. I want to get to uh some

23:02 Speaker 2: of these some of the things that are a little

23:05 Speaker 2: bit more uncomfortable to talk about sure we all hear

23:10 Speaker 2: about this, the dancing Israelis and watching the trade center

23:19 Speaker 2: come down. And I think they were even booked, they.

23:23 Speaker 3: Were arrested, they were help for quite some time.

23:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they were sent back and they were uh,

23:32 Speaker 2: they were sent back to Israel, right, and then just

23:35 Speaker 2: kind of nothing happened of it, right. And I got

23:40 Speaker 2: to ask you this as just one human to another,

23:47 Speaker 2: what do you think the involvement there is, because they

23:50 Speaker 2: seem to be they seem to be tracking the hijackers,

23:55 Speaker 2: they're scene celebrating the towers going down. Do you think

24:00 Speaker 2: that this was And I don't want to make you

24:02 Speaker 2: say anything, you don't want.

24:03 Speaker 3: To know you I have to address this, I have,

24:06 Speaker 3: so do you do.

24:07 Speaker 2: You think that even And I think right now it's

24:10 Speaker 2: more kind of I think more people are reading into

24:14 Speaker 2: it and seeing it that it seems that when Israel

24:18 Speaker 2: tells the United States to jump, we jump, or we

24:21 Speaker 2: we say how high? And it's a real big problem

24:28 Speaker 2: right now because there are Jewish people who are loyal

24:36 Speaker 2: to the Israeli government placed in very strategic places amongst

24:42 Speaker 2: the United States, whether it's the media, the the the government,

24:51 Speaker 2: the military, Like there they seem to be in a

24:57 Speaker 2: lot of area, like a lot of very very what

25:01 Speaker 2: you'd call critical jobs are held by people that are

25:07 Speaker 2: loyal to Israel, right. I don't want to just name names,

25:12 Speaker 2: but there are a lot of people that are are

25:14 Speaker 2: very overly loyal to Israel, and it's it's just it

25:18 Speaker 2: makes me uncomfortable because it's not America first for them,

25:22 Speaker 2: it's Israel first. And it seems to be more prevalent now,

25:26 Speaker 2: or at least it's more out in the open right now.

25:29 Speaker 2: But do you think that nine to eleven do you

25:32 Speaker 2: think what do you think? Do you think Israel was involved?

25:35 Speaker 3: I absolutely, without question.

25:37 Speaker 2: Do do you think that they use it as a

25:39 Speaker 2: false flag opportunity to get us to do their bidding

25:42 Speaker 2: once again?

25:43 Speaker 3: Yes, and we can look at the Greater Israel project,

25:46 Speaker 3: the expansions going on right now in that realm. My

25:50 Speaker 3: lead suspect has recently, in the last year, had several

25:55 Speaker 3: collaborations with very high ranking members of the Lakud. There was one,

26:01 Speaker 3: in particular case where he has done multiple collaborations with

26:05 Speaker 3: a guy named Emir Whiteman. He's the head of the

26:07 Speaker 3: libertarian caucus of the Likud party. You know, look what

26:11 Speaker 3: we're doing in Iran. We've got a president right now

26:14 Speaker 3: that said he didn't want any more wars, and now

26:17 Speaker 3: he's basically in there, and there's there's you know, spats

26:23 Speaker 3: between him and our intelligence Czar, Telsey Gabbard about whether

26:26 Speaker 3: or not we should be in there, and ultimately this

26:28 Speaker 3: person having the final.

26:29 Speaker 2: Say, did they just raid her office?

26:32 Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly.

26:33 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they just raided so ci A raided

26:38 Speaker 2: her office as she was about to classify documents. Yeah,

26:43 Speaker 2: and they just they seize things in from the DNI's office.

26:47 Speaker 2: That's crazy.

26:49 Speaker 3: Well, and I jokingly say this, but my last name

26:53 Speaker 3: doesn't do me any justice when it comes to the

26:55 Speaker 3: nine to eleven world that I'm trying to get answers with.

26:58 Speaker 3: My last name's Eisenberg. And you know, so you're clearly Jewish. Well, no,

27:02 Speaker 3: I'm not clearly Jewish, but.

27:04 Speaker 2: Your lineage is Jewish.

27:05 Speaker 3: It sounds a quarter of my lineage. It sounds, you know,

27:09 Speaker 3: like it could be Jewish. But it's so funny. I've

27:11 Speaker 3: come across so many people that are like, yeah, a

27:12 Speaker 3: lot of Jewish people have that, but some people that

27:15 Speaker 3: are from Europe are like you know, that's not just

27:17 Speaker 3: a Jewish name, and it's like, well, come to America

27:20 Speaker 3: and it's a little bit different.

27:22 Speaker 2: It's just a melting pot here.

27:23 Speaker 3: I have to basically prove, you know, my entire lineage,

27:27 Speaker 3: and that's why we'll link that, and I do that

27:29 Speaker 3: in my book. But to get back to your original question, Yes,

27:33 Speaker 3: I think you can look at a lot of different things,

27:35 Speaker 3: like the dancing Israelis, like the Israeli arts students. You

27:38 Speaker 3: can look at people like Michael Chertoff and the type

27:42 Speaker 3: of influence that he had, and you can look at

27:46 Speaker 3: the neo cons and the you know, the way that

27:49 Speaker 3: they have kind of acted in the last twenty years

27:52 Speaker 3: around the globe, and it does seem like there is

27:55 Speaker 3: this relationship that exists between these transnational elite and these

28:01 Speaker 3: individuals that have gotten very powerful in our federal apparatus,

28:06 Speaker 3: and this subject of interest, this special person that I've

28:10 Speaker 3: been able to uncover, he checks off all the bases.

28:14 Speaker 3: You know, he's got a lot of different relationships. He's

28:17 Speaker 3: admitted to having relationships with the IDF. He's got these

28:21 Speaker 3: ties to his family which comes from Switzerland, you know,

28:26 Speaker 3: the word a lot of the zion is in this

28:28 Speaker 3: organization came from his you know, in twenty fifteen when

28:32 Speaker 3: he was out there on the lines with Ukrainian heads

28:36 Speaker 3: of intelligence Valerie Condratook. He was also pictured with his attorney,

28:40 Speaker 3: and his attorney also has served. I did some digging

28:43 Speaker 3: into him. He's deceased now, but he's served on a

28:45 Speaker 3: number of World Bank big oil issues.

28:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, my producer was a whistleblower for big oil.

28:53 Speaker 2: It does like a whistleblower on big oil.

28:55 Speaker 3: Yeah.

28:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shame you couldn't be here today.

28:57 Speaker 3: So yes, I think ultimately what we're working towards and

29:00 Speaker 3: net and Yahoo has talked about Project America and you know,

29:04 Speaker 3: now they're saying that, you know, Israel doesn't need the

29:07 Speaker 3: United States anymore. And yeah, it's tough, you know, I

29:12 Speaker 3: like I said.

29:13 Speaker 2: Because they've they've brought us to our knees and we're

29:16 Speaker 2: not who we were.

29:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's it's really unfortunate because ultimately who pays

29:21 Speaker 3: the price, good Jews. There are good Jewish people that

29:25 Speaker 3: pay the price.

29:26 Speaker 2: And because this is one of the issues, this is

29:29 Speaker 2: one hundred percent one of the issues.

29:32 Speaker 3: It's it's like saying that it's like not so.

29:38 Speaker 2: Not every Jewish person is supportive and representing of the

29:46 Speaker 2: Israeli government. That would be like saying I represent the

29:50 Speaker 2: Trump administration. And it's like that's doesn't make sense. We

29:54 Speaker 2: can't look at life like that, Like that is not

29:58 Speaker 2: the reality of the situation. That is simply not how

30:02 Speaker 2: that is just like, not all Muslims after nine eleven

30:05 Speaker 2: Muslims out a bad rap. Not all Muslims are are

30:08 Speaker 2: are jihadist terrorists?

30:11 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's funny now that the a lot

30:13 Speaker 3: of people that are trying to make you think that

30:16 Speaker 3: somehow these radical Muslims are going to accomplish what the

30:19 Speaker 3: Zionists have already very clearly done in this country. It's like,

30:23 Speaker 3: do you not see the difference between any you know,

30:27 Speaker 3: organization like APAK and what they can do compared to

30:30 Speaker 3: what's out there really driving our politicians. You see our

30:33 Speaker 3: politicians taking you know, islamis money, you know, and a

30:37 Speaker 3: lot of the think tanks.

30:38 Speaker 2: As well, Saudi Saudi Islamic.

30:42 Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing that that goes back to

30:45 Speaker 3: the the the geopolitical side of the.

30:48 Speaker 2: Story, which you don't really like.

30:49 Speaker 3: I try not to get too heavily and dated there.

30:51 Speaker 3: But it's because you know, I can I can show

30:53 Speaker 3: a lot of evidence that the actual institutions where that

30:57 Speaker 3: information came from. It's a corrupted source, So why would

31:00 Speaker 3: we trust it? Right? So I looked at places like

31:04 Speaker 3: Apek and and the types of interviews that I see

31:08 Speaker 3: right now, where I forget the gentleman's name, but he

31:11 Speaker 3: recently went on a pretty major talk show talking about

31:14 Speaker 3: how the First Amendment, you know, how that needs to

31:18 Speaker 3: be changed. And this is an Israeli politician saying this.

31:20 Speaker 3: You could probably look at Yeah, sorry, what, yeah, look

31:25 Speaker 3: that up. I'll send you the link.

31:27 Speaker 2: Were those were words uttered?

31:31 Speaker 3: My lord?

31:33 Speaker 2: You mentioned you mentioned your company became connected to amerthrax incidents.

31:41 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's more, there's more.

31:43 Speaker 2: Can you explain that scenario? This is because I don't

31:48 Speaker 2: think people remember how chaotic the post nine to eleven

31:56 Speaker 2: months were, and in the wake of not T eleven

32:00 Speaker 2: came this anthrax scare.

32:04 Speaker 3: There were people died, you know, they were finding all

32:06 Speaker 3: this debt to America. There were you know, people were

32:08 Speaker 3: getting anthrax mailed to them. And so we got back

32:12 Speaker 3: to our regular duty and within a matter of a

32:16 Speaker 3: couple of months, all of a sudden in our mail

32:19 Speaker 3: room at building forty seven fort McNair Alpha Company. Some

32:23 Speaker 3: people came in. They put a cord on around the

32:27 Speaker 3: mail room and they said, your specific barracks was targeted

32:32 Speaker 3: in the anthrax attacks. We found shit in your building.

32:37 Speaker 3: We are now conducting an investigation. And so we're sitting

32:41 Speaker 3: here thinking, oh holy shit. Talking about like being a

32:45 Speaker 3: little terrorized. You talked about how you at that day

32:47 Speaker 3: were under the desk like freaking out. Well, now it's like, okay,

32:50 Speaker 3: so we were involved in the first response efforts and

32:53 Speaker 3: now you're telling me not even three months later, we're

32:56 Speaker 3: getting attacked in our barracks, which is inside of a base.

33:00 Speaker 3: So it was traumatic. It was. It was a terrifying experience.

33:04 Speaker 3: They came in, they started to send our mail through

33:07 Speaker 3: this process where it was being like sent through some

33:10 Speaker 3: type of high heat sensory item. Because anything that had

33:14 Speaker 3: like a plastic window on it, like bank statements and

33:16 Speaker 3: things like that, it was melting to the mail. And

33:20 Speaker 3: like the mail it almost looked like it was just

33:23 Speaker 3: even pieces of paper were like kind.

33:25 Speaker 2: Of like glued together almost heat.

33:28 Speaker 3: I'm so pissed off because I threw all this mail.

33:30 Speaker 3: I would just get pissed off, and I'd be like,

33:32 Speaker 3: damn it, another one. Oh we don't have one, and

33:35 Speaker 3: I don't have one. It's just like but.

33:37 Speaker 2: Something like it so small in the moment that you

33:39 Speaker 2: just like, this is something so stupid.

33:42 Speaker 3: Well so the funny thing.

33:43 Speaker 2: But it'd be so good to have right now.

33:45 Speaker 3: Well, I kept one. I accidentally kept one and I

33:48 Speaker 3: opened it up and it was a bank statement. And

33:50 Speaker 3: this was like probably shortly after I was out of

33:53 Speaker 3: the Army. I still had it. And it was like

33:55 Speaker 3: you could tell I was a private because it was

33:57 Speaker 3: like ATM fees you know, bar club, bar ATM fees.

34:02 Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, that.

34:03 Speaker 2: Makes sense, okay, yeah, negative balance makes sense. Yeah.

34:07 Speaker 3: So going back to that, you know, they came in,

34:10 Speaker 3: they they courtoned off the mail room. It was like

34:13 Speaker 3: that for a couple of weeks, and then as soon

34:15 Speaker 3: as they came they vanished. There was no debriefing, there

34:19 Speaker 3: was no nothing.

34:20 Speaker 2: No after action report.

34:22 Speaker 3: Well imagine that. And a lot of the people in

34:24 Speaker 3: my unit were traumatized by that.

34:27 Speaker 2: And I was you were just attacked again.

34:30 Speaker 3: Well, and I and in my own dealings with the

34:32 Speaker 3: Veterans administration, I had to be honest, and I had

34:35 Speaker 3: to say, like, September eleventh had an impact on me,

34:39 Speaker 3: and I didn't realize it until I really started to

34:41 Speaker 3: study it and read witness testimonies and then get in

34:44 Speaker 3: with other witnesses, Uh, just how it affected them because

34:47 Speaker 3: we were trained to think that, you know, PTSD only

34:49 Speaker 3: comes on the battlefield and you have to be getting

34:51 Speaker 3: blown up and shot at, and that's not the case.

34:53 Speaker 3: So again with this, you know, I had to prove

34:56 Speaker 3: in court that this incident took place, and so thankfully

34:58 Speaker 3: I've got a lay statement. I've got so several witness

35:00 Speaker 3: statements now from Alpha Company guys saying this anthrax attack

35:04 Speaker 3: absolutely happened, which is funny because now I've begun investigating it.

35:10 Speaker 3: The FBI, after I foided them, said, you know, everything

35:14 Speaker 3: on the amerithrax incident is in our vault and it's active.

35:17 Speaker 3: Everything you want to talk about redacted files. If you

35:20 Speaker 3: think the Epstein files were bad, you should see what

35:23 Speaker 3: they have. Just looks like Swiss cheese. It's crazy. So

35:26 Speaker 3: fifty nine PDF files which I have with all of

35:29 Speaker 3: them on that computer right there, but there are hundreds.

35:32 Speaker 3: Some are hundreds of pages long, and they all lead

35:35 Speaker 3: to this one gentleman named Bruce Ivans who allegedly killed

35:39 Speaker 3: himself right before the FBI was going to get him.

35:44 Speaker 3: And he was one of their own.

35:46 Speaker 2: But can you timestamp when he says that just a

35:49 Speaker 2: couple of seconds ago. Yeah, so they're unlived for YouTube.

35:55 Speaker 2: It sucks.

35:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh you're fine. But so they pinned on one

35:59 Speaker 3: of their own, and and there's no historical evidence whatsoever.

36:04 Speaker 2: Someone who someone who's dead. They pinned it on that guy.

36:07 Speaker 3: Well, a guy that killed himself allegedly before the FBI

36:10 Speaker 3: was going to take him into into custody. They penned

36:14 Speaker 3: on him. And there's no historical records. I've searched every

36:17 Speaker 3: single one of the PDFs that there was a Fort

36:20 Speaker 3: McNair anthrax attack. I've gone even further. I have an

36:24 Speaker 3: advanced appeal. Now, I'm holding the FBI like literally to

36:28 Speaker 3: the fire fire. So I'm like, show me some type

36:32 Speaker 3: of evidence. I have appeals with the FBI. I've got

36:36 Speaker 3: him with the United States Postal Service. It's so bad

36:40 Speaker 3: that the USPS basically forwarded me to their specific wing

36:44 Speaker 3: called the Postal Inspection Service. They they came back, yeah,

36:49 Speaker 3: they they they Oh yeah, So you know about USPS.

36:53 Speaker 3: Nobody really knows about these agencies. Yeah, of course I

36:56 Speaker 3: know about us well. USIS is like, we have no Yeah,

37:01 Speaker 3: they have no records responsive to my request. And then

37:03 Speaker 3: they went so far as to say that what I

37:06 Speaker 3: am studying doesn't really merit an appeal because it's not

37:10 Speaker 3: part of the public's interest anymore.

37:13 Speaker 2: Are you fucking kidding?

37:14 Speaker 3: I swear to you, I'll show you the document, and

37:17 Speaker 3: so I've gotten appeal in with them. It doesn't have Yeah,

37:21 Speaker 3: just you know.

37:21 Speaker 2: That is the biggest conundrum. I've ever heard.

37:24 Speaker 3: People died and I personally witnessed it, so I think

37:27 Speaker 3: that the public does care. So I've got appeals in

37:31 Speaker 3: with them. The CDC, I haven't even heard back from

37:36 Speaker 3: them yet, but just trying to get to the bottom

37:39 Speaker 3: of this anthrax incident. And of course I spoke to

37:42 Speaker 3: a very well known member of the nine to eleven

37:45 Speaker 3: accountability community, a woman by the name of Barbara Kuneger,

37:48 Speaker 3: who is a total fraud. I've got a whole series

37:53 Speaker 3: of communications over the years proving that. But I said

37:55 Speaker 3: to her one time, I said, hey, who's the expert

37:58 Speaker 3: in the nine to eleven truth world when it comes

38:00 Speaker 3: to the anthrax incidents, and she said, well, of course,

38:03 Speaker 3: we are the Lawyer's Committee for nine to eleven Inquiry,

38:07 Speaker 3: which she is a board member of. Do you think

38:09 Speaker 3: she ever went any deeper when I talked to her

38:12 Speaker 3: about this anthrax incident that never occurred? Do you think

38:14 Speaker 3: she wanted to go deeper? There?

38:16 Speaker 2: No, No, why would you?

38:19 Speaker 3: Why not? Because we need to keep it general. We

38:22 Speaker 3: need to keep people.

38:23 Speaker 2: Looking out the towers specific things, very specific directed energy weapons.

38:29 Speaker 3: Right. Well, and you know, my teammate and I, Xander Arena,

38:33 Speaker 3: I said to myself like, why did this exist? And

38:35 Speaker 3: he's like, you know, we start to think about it.

38:37 Speaker 3: It's like maybe they wanted to get into your mail.

38:39 Speaker 3: Maybe they wanted to see if you were saying anything.

38:42 Speaker 3: You know, this is a time before cell phones. Maybe

38:44 Speaker 3: they wanted to do that. Maybe they just wanted to

38:46 Speaker 3: scare the shit out of you.

38:47 Speaker 2: I would say it also because it I think it's

38:50 Speaker 2: so much more plausible that they just wanted to traumatize

38:55 Speaker 2: you again, which is remind you at any moment, we

39:01 Speaker 2: can use anything as cover, Yeah, and you can just

39:05 Speaker 2: be gone.

39:06 Speaker 3: Well, it's fascinating because with your mouse shot, Yeah, with

39:09 Speaker 3: that mindset. No other company in my regiment had any

39:13 Speaker 3: type of incident like that, and they were also over

39:15 Speaker 3: in a different base. What I think ultimately happened they

39:18 Speaker 3: needed to circulate a lot of anthrax around the Washington

39:22 Speaker 3: DC regions. And if there's anything that I've learned from

39:25 Speaker 3: these people in the cabal, they're also financially tied to

39:30 Speaker 3: the answers that they want to provide. So it's problem

39:34 Speaker 3: reaction solution. They show the problem, they wait for their reaction.

39:38 Speaker 2: And then of course then they sell the solution.

39:41 Speaker 3: And so it's like, you know, they probably just wanted

39:44 Speaker 3: to install a number of apparatuses into the DC region

39:48 Speaker 3: that cost a lot of money, a lot of technology

39:51 Speaker 3: that costs a lot of money. Well, look at what

39:53 Speaker 3: happened with the TSA.

39:55 Speaker 2: It totally changed, right, TSA state of the art everything everything, right,

40:01 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't fly without a you know, a

40:05 Speaker 2: dog sniff in your ass or an X ray machine,

40:09 Speaker 2: completely violating all of your rights. And then you know, again,

40:14 Speaker 2: we've given them this. We did this. Yeah, in the

40:20 Speaker 2: wake of these attacks, we forfeited our freedoms.

40:25 Speaker 3: Here comes the Patriot Act. They completely dismembered the federal

40:28 Speaker 3: apparatus they brought in DHS. Yeah, and they and they

40:33 Speaker 3: then basically reorganized the entire federal government and kind of

40:39 Speaker 3: consolidated into a way that I think allowed them to

40:43 Speaker 3: keep things shielded from US, and all the same time

40:47 Speaker 3: while turning the technical capacities, you know, towards the United

40:52 Speaker 3: States and towards the civilians. You know, they they also

40:57 Speaker 3: you know completely just you know, you know, it took

41:01 Speaker 3: away our freedoms. As you said, It's like, if Muslim

41:04 Speaker 3: terrorists is responsible, why are you taking it away after us?

41:07 Speaker 3: Why are you Why are you reorganizing our government? Why

41:10 Speaker 3: why are you changing the boundaries that you guys play in,

41:14 Speaker 3: you know, And it's like it makes no sense.

41:17 Speaker 2: It was I think it was a way for them

41:19 Speaker 2: to you've described it as a false flag.

41:21 Speaker 3: What I would bet my life it was a false flag.

41:24 Speaker 2: I doesn't say so. If you were in front of

41:26 Speaker 2: a member of Congress and you were allowed to brief

41:28 Speaker 2: them on this event, is that what you would say

41:34 Speaker 2: is that it was a false flag operation.

41:36 Speaker 3: Well. The interesting thing is I thought when I used

41:38 Speaker 3: to when I first got on this journey, all I'd

41:40 Speaker 3: have to come on and say is, hey, look I

41:42 Speaker 3: got two hundred and forty hours on site. I've got

41:45 Speaker 3: a lot of experience with aeronautical components. And here's the

41:48 Speaker 3: information that already exists on the subject, people like April Gallup,

41:51 Speaker 3: people like Citizen and Investigation Team, people like Pilots nine

41:54 Speaker 3: to eleven, Truth, all of the anomalies surrounding Honey Hanjour.

41:58 Speaker 3: You know, it's all I'm documented.

42:00 Speaker 2: I'm here just to say so, here's my experience to

42:04 Speaker 2: relate it to.

42:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, And the fascinating thing, anytime I've thought about that,

42:08 Speaker 3: they've always just come up with other witnesses that speak

42:13 Speaker 3: a totally different narrative, and I say, okay, well that

42:16 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Sure, they could be legitimate witnesses, but we

42:19 Speaker 3: also know through documents like Operation Northwoods, that the government

42:23 Speaker 3: was ready to plant false witnesses. This is within their

42:27 Speaker 3: spectrum of possibilities.

42:28 Speaker 2: The template existed, Yeah, and it existed in the sixties. Yes,

42:33 Speaker 2: so I can only imagine that that got and you know,

42:39 Speaker 2: it might not have went through with Kennedy. And you

42:41 Speaker 2: could argue that what happened in Cuba led to his assassination.

42:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. You can also a lot of people think it

42:46 Speaker 3: was because he was trying to hold Israel accountable for

42:48 Speaker 3: their nuclear secrets. God, we need a whole other episode.

42:54 Speaker 3: I'm not the guy for that, but it's just a

42:55 Speaker 3: known fact.

42:56 Speaker 2: No, no, but we need all another episode to go

42:58 Speaker 2: down some other avenues.

43:00 Speaker 3: But but yeah, going back to your original question, if

43:05 Speaker 3: I had to still and I'm going to I plan

43:07 Speaker 3: on at least with my books released, if I had

43:09 Speaker 3: to stand in front of a governing body and say

43:11 Speaker 3: this is why I believe this is the case, I

43:14 Speaker 3: would hoist up the one hundred and eighty thousand plus

43:18 Speaker 3: words of evidence that I've been able to gather with

43:23 Speaker 3: my subject of interest, and the things that I have

43:27 Speaker 3: him saying, and the types of reactions I've been able

43:29 Speaker 3: to record, and the people who were serving in leadership

43:34 Speaker 3: roles and capacities what they had to say about this individual,

43:38 Speaker 3: and how he's responded to me offering that information. It's

43:42 Speaker 3: it's been a very elaborate chess match that him and

43:44 Speaker 3: I have been playing for five years, where he has

43:46 Speaker 3: doxed me, he has threatened me, he has threatened my family.

43:51 Speaker 3: He has used you know, deception on his broadcasts in

43:55 Speaker 3: a wide variety of ways to try to discredit me,

43:59 Speaker 3: but it's not going to work. So that's what I

44:02 Speaker 3: would do if I had to sit in front of

44:04 Speaker 3: the Congress. I think I can help you arrange that. Please.

44:07 Speaker 3: Because another I'm glad we're saying this because right now,

44:10 Speaker 3: in the wake of this being the twenty fifth anniversary,

44:12 Speaker 3: there is there's multiple camps. Within nine to eleven truth

44:16 Speaker 3: I say this, and then within the camps there's like

44:18 Speaker 3: different little tribes. Camp one basically believes and this is

44:22 Speaker 3: Norman's doing. I got to give Norman credit. He came

44:24 Speaker 3: up with this or I think he knows somebody that

44:25 Speaker 3: came up with this.

44:26 Speaker 2: But guy spends twenty four to seven on this.

44:29 Speaker 3: He doesn't play games. He does not play games.

44:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did an episode with him. You did, Yeah,

44:34 Speaker 2: And I was like, bro, I got you. I can

44:37 Speaker 2: give you ninety minutes because it was my first time

44:40 Speaker 2: dipping my toe into this, sure, right, and I can

44:43 Speaker 2: give you ninety minutes. Four hours later, I was like,

44:47 Speaker 2: I couldn't he hit me with so many bombs? Yeah,

44:52 Speaker 2: I felt like my reality was broken because he just

45:00 Speaker 2: kept feeding me equations that the answers didn't add up,

45:06 Speaker 2: and I kept going and I'll probably include it right

45:11 Speaker 2: here in the editing. He hits me at this question

45:15 Speaker 2: and he's like, you know what project? Blue Beam is sure,

45:19 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, of course I know what project

45:23 Speaker 2: and he goes it was it already happened? It was

45:26 Speaker 2: on nine to eleven. Bro. My face drops. I'm like wait,

45:33 Speaker 2: and I just start computing it and I'm like, oh

45:36 Speaker 2: my god, it might have actually they might have done this.

45:40 Speaker 2: They might have done this to us.

45:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's funny because if you start asking yourself

45:46 Speaker 3: those questions and then going back to like the truth

45:48 Speaker 3: movement in the camps, there's kind of Camp one, which

45:52 Speaker 3: shout out Norman. That's that's uh oh yeah, Norman, big

45:54 Speaker 3: time shout. He's been tremendously valuable in my efforts and

45:57 Speaker 3: very much a partner. I've been enjoyed everything I've done

46:01 Speaker 3: with him. But Camp one of like your people that

46:03 Speaker 3: believe everything the mainstream narrative there, they might as well

46:07 Speaker 3: to stay asleep after twenty some odd years. They're not.

46:10 Speaker 2: They're just like the people in the uh in the Pentagon.

46:12 Speaker 2: They should go to sleep.

46:13 Speaker 3: Oh just like yeah, exactly. Camp two, you get your

46:16 Speaker 3: people that are like, yes, nine to eleven was an

46:19 Speaker 3: inside job, and most of the time that's where you're

46:23 Speaker 3: you know, you're going to find like the Nano Thermite group,

46:26 Speaker 3: the Richard Gages, you know that, you know the people that.

46:29 Speaker 2: Are become so influential.

46:33 Speaker 3: That's a good question.

46:34 Speaker 2: Where do you come from?

46:35 Speaker 3: He came from a background of architects and engineers and

46:40 Speaker 3: he started this organization which I'm I'm I think architects

46:44 Speaker 3: and engineers for nine to eleven truth, I think the

46:47 Speaker 3: mission behind it and who's you know, taking part in

46:49 Speaker 3: that and the signatories it's fantastic, you know, But I

46:53 Speaker 3: also think that their story and I'm not going to

46:55 Speaker 3: start to divulge things that have been shared to me

46:58 Speaker 3: in private, but their story. Worry over the years about

47:01 Speaker 3: the inner workings of that organization and some of the

47:04 Speaker 3: people that have been a part of it. It's very

47:07 Speaker 3: very questionable to me. And of course the directed energy

47:10 Speaker 3: weapons camps will have their points that they think the

47:14 Speaker 3: nano thermite camp can't, you know, explain, explain, and then

47:17 Speaker 3: the same company comes back. So yeah, I say, that's

47:20 Speaker 3: like kind of Camp two, and then Camp three. I

47:23 Speaker 3: would say, you know a lot of people in the

47:25 Speaker 3: nano camp believe Camp three is Nano camp and then

47:28 Speaker 3: the do crowd things that they're also part of Camp three.

47:31 Speaker 3: But I you know, I'm not to say, but Camp

47:34 Speaker 3: two pretty much believes you know something is wrong inside job.

47:37 Speaker 3: You know, buildings didn't just fall from fires, and Luke like, will.

47:40 Speaker 2: You guys fail? And if I can say this, what

47:44 Speaker 2: you guys fail to understand is that you both think

47:50 Speaker 2: the same thing.

47:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they argue over the details.

47:53 Speaker 2: But you're arguing over the semantics, the stuff that while yes,

48:00 Speaker 2: it's important, you need that first domino to fall.

48:05 Speaker 3: And I think we have that with suspects. And that's

48:08 Speaker 3: what I think my greatest gift to the nine to

48:11 Speaker 3: eleven Truth movement into the collective overall are going to

48:15 Speaker 3: be the Trand you know, the evidence that I have,

48:18 Speaker 3: the transcriptions that will be in my book that show

48:21 Speaker 3: how I stumbled into this individual, his team, the pictures

48:24 Speaker 3: that he's shown, the videos that he's shown.

48:27 Speaker 2: Do you have a name for the book yet?

48:28 Speaker 3: No, not yet. I've got a couple of ideas. It's

48:31 Speaker 3: going to be a digital book. It's going to be

48:33 Speaker 3: on my website. I've already bought the rights to the

48:36 Speaker 3: website and everything. But but yeah.

48:38 Speaker 2: That's would you like to publish it?

48:40 Speaker 3: Oh, well, that's the thing. I've thought about going the

48:42 Speaker 3: publishing route, but I've thought.

48:43 Speaker 2: Then I know a publisher that would do it.

48:46 Speaker 3: So I've I've got a friend that's helped me in

48:48 Speaker 3: the editing of this book, and his words verbatim where

48:51 Speaker 3: publishing houses are going to see dollar signs with you,

48:54 Speaker 3: like big time. You need, you need to finish this

48:56 Speaker 3: work up. And he's sat and I've given him the presentation,

48:59 Speaker 3: you know, the waste deep behind the veil, look about

49:01 Speaker 3: my work, and he's just like Jesus, I can't help you.

49:04 Speaker 3: He's like, I'm in the he's a writer, he's a professional,

49:06 Speaker 3: he does all this stuff. He said, you, your book

49:09 Speaker 3: and your efforts are so unmatched.

49:11 Speaker 2: It's too dense for him to.

49:13 Speaker 3: I can't help you. And he said, you know, I

49:15 Speaker 3: can probably make some connections for you. Sure, But even

49:17 Speaker 3: him and I agree that the best way for me

49:20 Speaker 3: to not deal with any bullshit and the best way

49:22 Speaker 3: for me to not deal with any of the red

49:25 Speaker 3: tape the h I got a guy that will I'll

49:28 Speaker 3: talk to anybody about it.

49:29 Speaker 2: I got a guy that will let he like he

49:33 Speaker 2: a lot of the books that you see behind you

49:35 Speaker 2: he's responsible for He just he lets people, he just

49:41 Speaker 2: helps with the publishing, Like that's all he wants. He

49:43 Speaker 2: wants people to write, and he wants people to write

49:47 Speaker 2: and have that freedom. But we'll talk about this after.

49:52 Speaker 2: But I think I can help you in a couple

49:54 Speaker 2: different places, and I think I'd like to probably talk

49:58 Speaker 2: to you about one more thing. I just want to

50:00 Speaker 2: note it here. But so moving moving kind of onward

50:08 Speaker 2: to where we were. So the you think the Israeli

50:12 Speaker 2: government again involved to some degree? Where do where where

50:23 Speaker 2: do the Saudis come in? Where do the the Islamic

50:29 Speaker 2: Where where does that come in? And how does that

50:31 Speaker 2: come in and remain the prevalent.

50:36 Speaker 3: Theory?

50:36 Speaker 2: Did they did Osama simply take credit because he's involved

50:41 Speaker 2: in all of this too, Like, I just don't understand this,

50:44 Speaker 2: that aspect of it.

50:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the FBI, and my understanding is they're still delving,

50:49 Speaker 3: you know, divulging information to the victims family members, trying

50:52 Speaker 3: to show Saudi involvement. I I just have a really

50:56 Speaker 3: difficult time believing that. I just do I I the

51:00 Speaker 3: actions that have been taken in the region.

51:02 Speaker 2: So you don't think the Saudis are involved.

51:04 Speaker 3: You know, here's the thing. If they were, you know,

51:07 Speaker 3: how do we pull people into court? You know, because

51:09 Speaker 3: right now, do you do you see how the Saudis

51:12 Speaker 3: are influencing in a in a very right in your face.

51:16 Speaker 2: Kind of comedy.

51:18 Speaker 3: How are they influencing our American you know, military, are

51:22 Speaker 3: our political process? All these things? I just want to know.

51:25 Speaker 3: It's like, if you're going to, you know, try to

51:30 Speaker 3: say that the Saudis had some involvement in it, I mean,

51:32 Speaker 3: I don't know how You're going to have a really

51:34 Speaker 3: hard time convincing me, especially in the face of everything

51:37 Speaker 3: that's happening, that that's the case. Again, you know, this

51:41 Speaker 3: goes back to where are we receiving that information from?

51:44 Speaker 3: You know, these institutions that, in my humble opinion, have

51:47 Speaker 3: proven to be corrupt.

51:48 Speaker 2: And then therefore the evidence that they provide is definitely questionable, questionable,

51:56 Speaker 2: and it should be questioned because the source is tainted.

51:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so inherently.

52:01 Speaker 2: You should not trust that source.

52:03 Speaker 3: You have to delve into everything. And again, this is

52:05 Speaker 3: why I try to say to people, that's that's.

52:07 Speaker 2: Kind of so what do you think happen that day?

52:09 Speaker 2: Walk me through what you think happened that day? How

52:13 Speaker 2: what unfolded?

52:15 Speaker 3: Like? Who was there?

52:17 Speaker 2: Was there hijackings of any They were clearly hijacking of planes, right,

52:22 Speaker 2: but who did that?

52:23 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, and that's a that's a great

52:25 Speaker 3: question for a guy like Mark Conlin. I'm sure you

52:28 Speaker 3: know we'd be he'd be happy to talk with you.

52:31 Speaker 3: He's a guy. Do you have this reason?

52:33 Speaker 2: Do you have an overall picture of what you think happened?

52:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so, I personally, because we don't have evidence

52:39 Speaker 3: that these hijackers were even in Dullest Airport on that day. Again,

52:44 Speaker 3: I try to keep it Pentagon specific specific. Right, we

52:47 Speaker 3: can't prove that you know. We also can't we can

52:50 Speaker 3: show that, you know the things that were given to us,

52:53 Speaker 3: like the video footage from Dulles is in question. We

52:57 Speaker 3: we briefly touched on this subject where the cameras right

53:00 Speaker 3: outside of the Pentagon allegedly showing the building getting hit

53:04 Speaker 3: by a plane plane.

53:06 Speaker 2: Which is just a white blur that comes by.

53:08 Speaker 3: My closest research assistant, a guy by the name of

53:11 Speaker 3: Xander Arena has mathematically debunked that and he's a member

53:16 Speaker 3: of American Mensa He's not just some math wep.

53:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not just some closet mathematician.

53:22 Speaker 3: Member of American MENSA. That's the greatest collection of minds

53:25 Speaker 3: that we have. He's what do he speak? I'm sure

53:28 Speaker 3: he would, absolutely he's He just spoke like.

53:30 Speaker 2: I'm keeping this open as an open investigation, like as

53:35 Speaker 2: a like the shows that I do on nine to eleven,

53:38 Speaker 2: they'll all be in a playlist of like investigatory like

53:41 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, so that anyone wants to

53:44 Speaker 2: like watch me kind of take all the information in

53:48 Speaker 2: that will exist, And that's what I'm doing.

53:50 Speaker 3: I'll link you guys up, so you know. He he

53:53 Speaker 3: did a lot of research in that regard. He spoke

53:55 Speaker 3: recently in Washington, DC on that.

53:58 Speaker 2: Furthermore so, he was invited to that event.

54:00 Speaker 3: He was, and he also made it known that he

54:02 Speaker 3: thought it was bullshit that I wasn't invited. But that's

54:04 Speaker 3: a whole other topic. It's a discussion. But we can

54:06 Speaker 3: even look into seismic studies that were done surrounding the

54:11 Speaker 3: Pentagon where there is no seismic measurable.

54:16 Speaker 2: Which there should be. It's not I mean, come on, guys, yeah.

54:22 Speaker 3: This is it.

54:23 Speaker 2: It's crazy to me. It's crazy to me that when

54:27 Speaker 2: presented with that kind of stuff, because when they showed

54:29 Speaker 2: that to me, there's no there's no impact, Like there's

54:35 Speaker 2: no spike on any seismic chart that would indicate a

54:41 Speaker 2: plane hitting a solid structure.

54:45 Speaker 3: And I believe that's the same in New York as well.

54:47 Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's actually it's even weirder than that

54:50 Speaker 2: New York. I'm sure it's almost like it absorbed the

54:54 Speaker 2: activity something. So again, I think that's where the director

55:00 Speaker 2: you up and comes in, Yeah, because it distorts your

55:02 Speaker 2: measurement tool well.

55:04 Speaker 3: Every single time. And I've been in a lot of

55:06 Speaker 3: emails over the years with you know, people like doctor

55:09 Speaker 3: Judy Wood attach to them, people like Richard Gage attached

55:12 Speaker 3: to him. Every time people try to attack her information,

55:16 Speaker 3: they don't do that.

55:17 Speaker 2: They attack her PbD like did an episode with her.

55:20 Speaker 2: It was embarrassing, it was it was embarrassing. He didn't

55:23 Speaker 2: know anything.

55:24 Speaker 3: He and Richard Gage embarrassed himself when he was on there.

55:29 Speaker 3: And I've said to anybody like I would love to

55:32 Speaker 3: go on PbD and talk about my subject, like I

55:35 Speaker 3: will give people access to my research before it's released.

55:37 Speaker 3: And they can include parts of it to show that

55:40 Speaker 3: I'm not, you know, speaking out of my ass.

55:42 Speaker 2: Was was there like one? Was there one piece of

55:45 Speaker 2: evidence that changed everything for you that made you see

55:54 Speaker 2: this in a whole different light, like or what was that?

55:57 Speaker 3: It was a number of things. It was the efforts

55:59 Speaker 3: by guys like Aldo Marquis of Citizen Investigation Team that

56:04 Speaker 3: came forward with a lot of different witness testimony that

56:07 Speaker 3: was released in like I think two thousand and nine

56:10 Speaker 3: twenty ten. Xander really helped me kind of confidently approach

56:14 Speaker 3: the subject when he mathematically proved that it's an impossibility.

56:19 Speaker 3: But really then getting into the nitty gritty of the

56:22 Speaker 3: witness testimony and talking to a lot of the guys

56:24 Speaker 3: that I served with, you know, a lot of the

56:26 Speaker 3: guys are like Jesus, like I agree with you, Like

56:29 Speaker 3: this is this is obscene, Like it's absurd, And even

56:32 Speaker 3: the ones that didn't really question it until later on

56:35 Speaker 3: in life, they're like, yeah, I've I've done an about

56:38 Speaker 3: face on this. You helped me open my eyes. But yeah,

56:42 Speaker 3: it's there's just so many ways to measure this, and

56:45 Speaker 3: when you start to really specifically pull at the pentagon component, itself.

56:49 Speaker 3: That's where you can start to get into the meat

56:51 Speaker 3: and potatoes. And my work's gonna show a whole bunch

56:53 Speaker 3: of parts anomalies where you know, we can't find these

56:57 Speaker 3: parts still anywhere to this day. You know, parts were

57:01 Speaker 3: being found allegedly in Arlington Cemetery across the Highway that

57:05 Speaker 3: had specifics. You know, they looked like they were untouched,

57:08 Speaker 3: they had serial numbers, they had all these things. But

57:11 Speaker 3: in the end, where did those parts go? Then I

57:13 Speaker 3: was able. I was doing research here in Boston locally,

57:16 Speaker 3: I was at Harvard. I was uncovering. I had basically

57:19 Speaker 3: Harvard's tools, and I uncovered a book that was done

57:23 Speaker 3: by a guy by the name of Joseph Mongolates, and

57:26 Speaker 3: he was a former Old Guard soldier and he basically

57:28 Speaker 3: collected these series of essays that Old Guard soldiers like

57:33 Speaker 3: myself did and in one of these yeah, and this

57:37 Speaker 3: was I was going to bring this and literally read

57:38 Speaker 3: this for your your audience, but it can be found

57:41 Speaker 3: its open source. There was a testimony by the name

57:45 Speaker 3: of Chris Bradley. This soldier was in the Old Guard

57:47 Speaker 3: and he basically said that he when the DEA finished

57:53 Speaker 3: up their sifting operations, which wasn't even supposed to be

57:56 Speaker 3: the DEA. It was the FBI that was conducting this stuff.

57:59 Speaker 3: They loaded up the evidence and they loaded it up

58:03 Speaker 3: into these unmarked is zuzu barely operable box trucks, and

58:09 Speaker 3: they were giving paper maps and paper instructions on where

58:14 Speaker 3: to take this evidence, and they were being escorted by

58:18 Speaker 3: armed guards. And it gets even crazier. He said that

58:21 Speaker 3: when they were moving these parts in this evidence to

58:24 Speaker 3: these government warehouses that weren't far away, and they had

58:28 Speaker 3: like like presidential limousines under tarps and stuff in them,

58:32 Speaker 3: So they weren't even keeping this evidence like in such

58:36 Speaker 3: a place that tainted, you know, evidence that was around

58:39 Speaker 3: dead bodies, you know, asbestos. We were supposed to be

58:43 Speaker 3: wearing you know, gear and and all of stuff. They

58:47 Speaker 3: were forced to weigh, to wear DEA T shirts over

58:53 Speaker 3: their BDUs when they were Yeah, I've found this testimony.

58:56 Speaker 3: It's open source. You can find it. You can look

58:58 Speaker 3: it up. I'll send you the link to it, a

59:01 Speaker 3: picture of it. So, yeah, you know, my unit, for

59:04 Speaker 3: lack of a better term, we were kind of used

59:07 Speaker 3: as useful idiots. You know that the heavy mass on

59:10 Speaker 3: the ground that will act without taking without asking questions,

59:15 Speaker 3: and just move things around and get things done and

59:17 Speaker 3: shift it out of there, and get the evidence out

59:19 Speaker 3: of there and put it on a zuzu box trucks

59:21 Speaker 3: and get the hell out of here. And and you know.

59:23 Speaker 2: Who do you think took it?

59:25 Speaker 3: It was? It was a deep private contracts. It was

59:27 Speaker 3: a DEA facility. So somewhere along the lines, and we

59:30 Speaker 3: I'm not there's so many different ways that you can

59:32 Speaker 3: look into DEA corruption and free and clear.

59:36 Speaker 2: From for anyone who doesn't know what is the DEA.

59:38 Speaker 3: The drug enforcement Agency?

59:40 Speaker 2: So again, let's ask ourselves why the DEA is handling

59:46 Speaker 2: evidence recovery on what is clearly an FBI investigation investigatory.

59:54 Speaker 3: It goes even deeper than that. So the DEA, according

59:59 Speaker 3: to some of the official documents, was serving in a

1:00:03 Speaker 3: volunteer capacity. So why if they're volunteering, would you put

1:00:08 Speaker 3: them on one of the most critical tasks of the

1:00:12 Speaker 3: most where Oh, surprise, surprise, that's where all the stuff

1:00:16 Speaker 3: you know up. Yeah, and then it gets even weirder.

1:00:20 Speaker 3: So Titan Systems Corporation, there was known corruption with them,

1:00:25 Speaker 3: and there were some people, one individual that was writing

1:00:30 Speaker 3: about it a long time ago, but in San Diego

1:00:33 Speaker 3: they were alleging this. This person was saying that basically

1:00:37 Speaker 3: they they had a lot of dirty dealings with the DEA.

1:00:41 Speaker 3: So that's all very fascinating the first time I've heard that. Yeah, but.

1:00:47 Speaker 2: Did this did? Have you ever regretted investigating this further?

1:00:56 Speaker 3: My only regret is that I didn't start sooner. But

1:01:01 Speaker 3: I overcome that by reminding me myself that a lot

1:01:05 Speaker 3: of ground has been laid because these people that conducted

1:01:08 Speaker 3: this operation, I think they're really confident in their position

1:01:12 Speaker 3: right now and where they stand and their ability to

1:01:15 Speaker 3: evade accountability. And so I've kind of come to the

1:01:18 Speaker 3: conclusion that, yes, it sucked that I started so late,

1:01:21 Speaker 3: but in the last twenty some odd years they've gotten sloppy,

1:01:25 Speaker 3: and once I can get into a position of authority,

1:01:29 Speaker 3: real authority to take action, it's going to be easy

1:01:33 Speaker 3: for me to pull up anything that I want and

1:01:35 Speaker 3: can get in my disposal to kind of further show

1:01:40 Speaker 3: us their complacency against them. Yeah, and so I've said

1:01:43 Speaker 3: it before, I'll say it again. I plan on utilizing

1:01:46 Speaker 3: my work to spring into some type of political position.

1:01:52 Speaker 3: Patricia Casaza, you recently spoke to can speak quite a

1:01:56 Speaker 3: bit about the ways that the federal apparatus was stonewalling

1:02:00 Speaker 3: and playing games.

1:02:02 Speaker 2: And so, and that's why I'm supplementing your interview with hers,

1:02:07 Speaker 2: you know, even back to back.

1:02:08 Speaker 3: She's wonderful. She's because I think a great good friend.

1:02:10 Speaker 2: You, I get a good clear look at the towers

1:02:14 Speaker 2: and like all that and the ramifications. But also with you,

1:02:17 Speaker 2: I get that first response on the Pentagon. So together,

1:02:20 Speaker 2: I think these interviews going back to back are just

1:02:23 Speaker 2: it's a no brainer for me.

1:02:25 Speaker 3: She can also speak to just a lot of the

1:02:27 Speaker 3: ways that they were getting stonewalled, things that haven't been

1:02:29 Speaker 3: written about, like the government was trying to use lawyers

1:02:33 Speaker 3: and all different other types of resources to push.

1:02:35 Speaker 2: The which is insane. Yeah, it's insane to me. So

1:02:41 Speaker 2: in your opinion, where should a legitimate new investigation begin

1:02:47 Speaker 2: the Pentagon?

1:02:48 Speaker 3: The evidence I've been able to uncover, without question, the

1:02:53 Speaker 3: critically damning position that I've got my suspects in, and

1:02:58 Speaker 3: parts of the region of the world world that i've

1:03:00 Speaker 3: attached them to, I've got them. And if anybody is

1:03:04 Speaker 3: listening today, you know, because we kind of talked a

1:03:06 Speaker 3: little bit about the federal apparatus. How you've got some

1:03:09 Speaker 3: some people in Congress that you know, you know there

1:03:12 Speaker 3: there are efforts that are right now being made, and

1:03:14 Speaker 3: I think that they're they're Kabooki efforts. They they they're

1:03:18 Speaker 3: made to look like they're really seriously doing things. Well.

1:03:22 Speaker 3: Senator Johnson the one that you know, these people in

1:03:25 Speaker 3: the nine to eleven Truth movement are allegedly giving all

1:03:28 Speaker 3: this information.

1:03:29 Speaker 2: To Mike Johnson.

1:03:30 Speaker 3: I forget his first name. He's he's a senator. He's

1:03:34 Speaker 3: still sitting. Unfortunately, I haven't had any dealings with this

1:03:38 Speaker 3: guy every time I've tried to reach out to him,

1:03:41 Speaker 3: or Congressman Weldon. Weldon, I don't think he is serving anymore.

1:03:45 Speaker 3: But he's also got his hands right now into the

1:03:47 Speaker 3: nine to eleven stuff, and he's running around with you know,

1:03:50 Speaker 3: people like Richard Gage and people like the International Center

1:03:54 Speaker 3: for Nine to eleven Justice, which is a total bullshit organization,

1:04:00 Speaker 3: disingenuous people that have made connections with family members that

1:04:05 Speaker 3: again are unfortunate because I don't think that they have

1:04:07 Speaker 3: these people's best interests in mind, But.

1:04:09 Speaker 2: It's establishing credibility through Yeah, they've been asked to network

1:04:13 Speaker 2: provide the best evidence that's going to go to the

1:04:16 Speaker 2: Senator and congressman.

1:04:17 Speaker 3: Well, then's apparently also involved. And it's like I've written

1:04:20 Speaker 3: these people so many times.

1:04:22 Speaker 2: Well, we have direct access into the secret Staas force.

1:04:26 Speaker 2: They've been getting actual results done.

1:04:28 Speaker 3: Clearly, I have one hundred and eighty thousand words of

1:04:31 Speaker 3: evidence transcribed that has been broken down and is ready

1:04:35 Speaker 3: to be looked at. That's pretty much the I think

1:04:38 Speaker 3: I'm point of my book.

1:04:40 Speaker 2: But I think I'm the only one who's actually I

1:04:43 Speaker 2: think Norman points it out, is that I'm the only

1:04:45 Speaker 2: one who's actually like point blank asked a sitting member

1:04:49 Speaker 2: of Congress to to look into doctor Judy Woods's.

1:04:54 Speaker 3: Work like it's a really thick book. It's huge.

1:04:57 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:04:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a PhD for crying and.

1:05:00 Speaker 2: She won't let me interview her until I read it

1:05:02 Speaker 2: three times.

1:05:04 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I will say this, and I've never

1:05:07 Speaker 3: I've been on a lot of emails with her, She's

1:05:09 Speaker 3: watched my presentations, you know, I've I've had that admitted

1:05:12 Speaker 3: to me.

1:05:13 Speaker 2: She is an enigma and she was burned by people.

1:05:17 Speaker 3: Exactly I was about to say, I can't say that

1:05:19 Speaker 3: I believe no pun indundant. I can't say that I

1:05:21 Speaker 3: blame her. You know, she was one of the people

1:05:24 Speaker 3: that was trying her best to get to the bottom

1:05:27 Speaker 3: of this issue earlier on, and so she faced a

1:05:29 Speaker 3: hell of a lot of resistance. You know, to people

1:05:32 Speaker 3: like her, I would just say publicly, you know, you

1:05:34 Speaker 3: need suspects. You need suspects that had intelligence apparatus, you know, experience,

1:05:39 Speaker 3: You need suspects admitting that they had directed energy weapons,

1:05:43 Speaker 3: experience that you know, you need people that had access.

1:05:46 Speaker 3: I've got you covered. And furthermore, if you subscribe to

1:05:50 Speaker 3: the nano thermite camp beliefs, you need people with chemistry expertise,

1:05:53 Speaker 3: you need people that had access. I've got all that too.

1:05:57 Speaker 3: The people that I have been able to finger as

1:05:59 Speaker 3: suspect where the top notch people when it came to

1:06:04 Speaker 3: intelligence and outfitting, you know, the biggest agencies and the

1:06:09 Speaker 3: biggest watchdog, you know, protectors of US. You know, these

1:06:13 Speaker 3: people outfitted the FBI, they were part of the Joint

1:06:15 Speaker 3: Terrorism Task Force, they were part of outfitting special forces. Folks.

1:06:21 Speaker 3: I can prove this so many different ways over you know,

1:06:24 Speaker 3: my specific subject, they had a secret compound out in

1:06:29 Speaker 3: the middle of the Woods at Fort Benning where he

1:06:31 Speaker 3: did quote unquote, this is me quoting him all of

1:06:34 Speaker 3: his spooky stuff. Yeah, it's all right there in plain sight.

1:06:41 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:06:41 Speaker 3: In the bottom line is these people got sloppy and

1:06:45 Speaker 3: they didn't expect somebody like me to come along. I

1:06:47 Speaker 3: came along twenty years after the fact, and I just

1:06:50 Speaker 3: started to tell my story and then they ran their

1:06:52 Speaker 3: mouth and they started to come out against me. And

1:06:55 Speaker 3: it's like, I don't think they shouldn't have done that.

1:06:58 Speaker 2: It's not that they didn't anticipate you. It's they feared

1:07:02 Speaker 2: someone like you coming out because they anticipated it and

1:07:06 Speaker 2: they knew it was going to be a problem, so

1:07:08 Speaker 2: they had to know how to shut you up. And

1:07:10 Speaker 2: they started attacking your character, Yeah, and your lineage and

1:07:14 Speaker 2: everything everything that they could get their hands on.

1:07:17 Speaker 3: My military record, you know, everything. And my book's going

1:07:20 Speaker 3: to show every step of all of it. And I'm

1:07:23 Speaker 3: going to have a second book, and I'm putting this

1:07:25 Speaker 3: out into the world as well. I've got a couple

1:07:27 Speaker 3: of relationships established with counter intelligence professionals, people that specialize

1:07:33 Speaker 3: in that subject. I want to do a second work

1:07:36 Speaker 3: where I basically give them access to all my emails,

1:07:39 Speaker 3: from day one of my nine to eleven Truth Movement journey,

1:07:43 Speaker 3: and I want them to make you know, unbiased, evidence

1:07:46 Speaker 3: based assessments as to the types of responses I've received

1:07:52 Speaker 3: from these individuals that proclaim they're trying to get to

1:07:55 Speaker 3: the bottom of this issue, because I don't think they are.

1:07:58 Speaker 3: Why isn't anyone we need?

1:08:07 Speaker 2: I just had an idea. I just had an idea,

1:08:10 Speaker 2: and I don't want to I don't want to say.

1:08:13 Speaker 3: It, but.

1:08:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I just had an idea, and

1:08:17 Speaker 2: I think I think it's a strong one. But in

1:08:21 Speaker 2: closing for this main episode, we're clearly going to have

1:08:23 Speaker 2: to do a couple of these because you're just so good,

1:08:27 Speaker 2: so natural to speak to a couple of questions really quick.

1:08:33 Speaker 2: Uh have you ever feared for your life or consequences

1:08:37 Speaker 2: for speaking publicly?

1:08:39 Speaker 3: Yes? And that's because the individual in the last five

1:08:45 Speaker 3: years that I've been able to finger as a suspect

1:08:48 Speaker 3: has directly threatened me, saying he was going to show

1:08:52 Speaker 3: up to my house and I would not like it.

1:08:54 Speaker 3: There was a circumstance where he doxed me. For anyone

1:08:58 Speaker 3: who doesn't know, I always do this kind of stuff.

1:09:00 Speaker 3: People hate it.

1:09:01 Speaker 2: What is docsing.

1:09:02 Speaker 3: It's when somebody puts your entire address where you live,

1:09:06 Speaker 3: your home address, where your wife and child sleep on

1:09:10 Speaker 3: the internet. You can see how that'd be severe right well,

1:09:14 Speaker 3: where it got really really and it makes me sick

1:09:17 Speaker 3: to even say this. When I was living in Boston

1:09:19 Speaker 3: and working as an independent researcher, which anybody can do

1:09:22 Speaker 3: that at Harvard. All you gotta do is go up

1:09:24 Speaker 3: to Harvard and say, hey, this is what I'm studying.

1:09:26 Speaker 3: I would just like access to your archives and libraries

1:09:29 Speaker 3: and everything. Here's the money. I did that, so I

1:09:33 Speaker 3: was here. I was not living with a Boston ID,

1:09:38 Speaker 3: with a Massachusetts driver's ID. I had nothing pinning me

1:09:43 Speaker 3: to this part of the region, like nothing, And at

1:09:47 Speaker 3: that point in time, I wasn't doing a lot of

1:09:49 Speaker 3: public stuff. I was keeping a very low profile because

1:09:51 Speaker 3: I was I was doing research. In twenty twenty four

1:09:57 Speaker 3: when I had a really big blow up with my

1:10:00 Speaker 3: lead suspect. This guy basically started talking about my wife's

1:10:08 Speaker 3: you know, driver's license, and he basically pulled up where

1:10:13 Speaker 3: I was living here in Boston. We weren't living there

1:10:15 Speaker 3: at the time, you know, but he basically offered a

1:10:19 Speaker 3: veiled threat. He said, where do you want me to come?

1:10:21 Speaker 3: Do you want me to come to? You know your address?

1:10:25 Speaker 3: You're not going to like it if I show up.

1:10:27 Speaker 3: You know, I want to send attorneys there. And then

1:10:29 Speaker 3: he's like unit one or unit two? He said that specifically. Well,

1:10:34 Speaker 3: I lived in a duplex. There was no unit one

1:10:35 Speaker 3: in unit two. It was this number, and it was

1:10:37 Speaker 3: then the next number. It was a completely different address. Well,

1:10:41 Speaker 3: the reason I took that threat to heart my wife

1:10:45 Speaker 3: when she got her driver's license at the DMV. I

1:10:48 Speaker 3: don't know what it's called in this state, the the

1:10:51 Speaker 3: R and V whatever. She accidentally and again I don't

1:10:54 Speaker 3: even know how this worked because she made a mistake

1:10:59 Speaker 3: and in her least information, there's no unit one anywhere.

1:11:04 Speaker 3: But this guy had information and was like unit one

1:11:08 Speaker 3: or unit two, And so that to me was I

1:11:10 Speaker 3: took that as a threat. It's just like, Okay, it

1:11:12 Speaker 3: is a threat. Damn right, it's a threat. And then

1:11:14 Speaker 3: he tried to play the game like I show show

1:11:16 Speaker 3: evidence where I threaten his family. I'm like, uh, you did.

1:11:19 Speaker 3: In my presentation with Norman, which I will link. You

1:11:21 Speaker 3: can have the link to it. I specifically showed out

1:11:25 Speaker 3: my wife's ID and I showed where we used to live.

1:11:28 Speaker 3: It's just like, no, you you had no idea. There

1:11:31 Speaker 3: was no public knowledge that I was living here, there

1:11:33 Speaker 3: was none, and you somehow knew where I was living.

1:11:37 Speaker 2: Harvard, you know it in I think Harvard gave him.

1:11:41 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the only tie.

1:11:43 Speaker 3: Well, here's the here's the interesting thing. So with his

1:11:46 Speaker 3: family members that is still today serving in a huge capacity,

1:11:52 Speaker 3: you know, in a lot of different ways in the

1:11:53 Speaker 3: intelligence sector. You know, her name's Katie Wheelberger. She was

1:11:58 Speaker 3: about to under trunk first administration serve as one of

1:12:02 Speaker 3: the highest civilian intelligence roles, and she was basically nixed

1:12:06 Speaker 3: at the zero hour. Trump said that he didn't trust

1:12:08 Speaker 3: her loyalties, her ties to people that he didn't like,

1:12:11 Speaker 3: like John McCain. She then then, you know, Trump goes away,

1:12:16 Speaker 3: Biden comes into office, and under Biden he gives her

1:12:19 Speaker 3: express confirmation to serve at the board of the United

1:12:23 Speaker 3: States Institution of Peace. Well, this woman worked in a

1:12:27 Speaker 3: number of capacities, serving directly for a lot of people,

1:12:31 Speaker 3: Michael Chertoff being one of them. She works, you know,

1:12:35 Speaker 3: she had worked for a lot of Zionist I guess

1:12:40 Speaker 3: you could say, think tanks, you know, offering academic evidence

1:12:44 Speaker 3: as to why we should be taking these people's advice

1:12:46 Speaker 3: and instituting it. The Vandenberg Coalition was another place, you know,

1:12:51 Speaker 3: so she had technically had ties to Harvard. You know,

1:12:55 Speaker 3: he my lead suspect has well Harvard.

1:12:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, Harvard wants to maintain their relationship with highest elements.

1:13:03 Speaker 3: She went to She got her juris doctorate there, so

1:13:06 Speaker 3: technically he could have tapped her and been like, get

1:13:08 Speaker 3: me the information on this guy.

1:13:09 Speaker 2: I don't know, well, think about it. I mean, think

1:13:11 Speaker 2: about Ivy League schools. They're the ones generating, like that's

1:13:16 Speaker 2: the talent pool for the CIA, the you.

1:13:20 Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1:13:21 Speaker 2: You see where I'm going. Of course, so they you're

1:13:25 Speaker 2: essentially like all you have to do is, you know,

1:13:28 Speaker 2: give this person, you know, put him on the put

1:13:31 Speaker 2: him on a retainer, and if anyone comes in, you know,

1:13:37 Speaker 2: like you I just think it's fair reported up that

1:13:40 Speaker 2: chain and and it's but it's not crazy to think

1:13:42 Speaker 2: that that's a reality. That's the world we live.

1:13:45 Speaker 3: In again, you know that, you know, he when when

1:13:48 Speaker 3: he threatened you know that Unit one or Unit two,

1:13:51 Speaker 3: like I hadn't even talked publicly about.

1:13:54 Speaker 2: And he's doing this behind a paywall to so he

1:13:56 Speaker 2: so he knows that you're watching behind them, you're paying

1:13:59 Speaker 2: to watch.

1:14:00 Speaker 3: So here's where it gets really complicated. He has to

1:14:03 Speaker 3: recruit new people to his I believe it's a psychological operation.

1:14:08 Speaker 3: His operation is behind him.

1:14:09 Speaker 2: You so you believe his show is a stile.

1:14:12 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a thousand percent It has to be a syop.

1:14:14 Speaker 3: I mean it's you're basically subverting a group of people

1:14:17 Speaker 3: by non physical.

1:14:19 Speaker 2: Means, and you're monetizing truth.

1:14:21 Speaker 3: He's monetizing it. He's he brings a lot of guests

1:14:24 Speaker 3: from around the world on and what he basically does

1:14:27 Speaker 3: is he's got tears to his news organization. He presents

1:14:31 Speaker 3: the news in the form of public knowledge. You know,

1:14:34 Speaker 3: I'm warning the public, and he goes on YouTube and

1:14:37 Speaker 3: rumble and he primarily does that. He gets you in,

1:14:40 Speaker 3: you can subscribe, and you pay money to him in

1:14:42 Speaker 3: a lot of different ways. Then basically he has like

1:14:45 Speaker 3: a higher level access to where you get into his

1:14:49 Speaker 3: private So yeah, going back to your original question, you know,

1:14:52 Speaker 3: do you feel you know at risk? Yes, I felt

1:14:57 Speaker 3: that way for a long time, you know, And I

1:15:00 Speaker 3: also have to take my subject at his word when

1:15:04 Speaker 3: he talks about the access that he still has, how

1:15:07 Speaker 3: he was still being sought out as an expert that

1:15:10 Speaker 3: was offering input and you know, information that was being

1:15:15 Speaker 3: used between Ukraine and Russia.

1:15:17 Speaker 2: So you think he's still an active asset one thousand

1:15:20 Speaker 2: to some degree, he's been because most of these guys

1:15:24 Speaker 2: will take consulting roles after the facts.

1:15:26 Speaker 3: Oh and he's his what he has shared, and he

1:15:29 Speaker 3: pulled this stuff off. You can no longer see it.

1:15:31 Speaker 3: It's it's been scrubbed from his profiles. I thankfully was

1:15:35 Speaker 3: able to get copies of it all. It's just the

1:15:38 Speaker 3: way that he's bounced around, you know, this agency, this agency,

1:15:42 Speaker 3: this swat team, you know. Then he's installing stuff into

1:15:44 Speaker 3: Coastguard cutters. Then he's working with FDN Y. Then he's

1:15:48 Speaker 3: over here at Weapons and Mass Destruction. Then he's over

1:15:50 Speaker 3: here at you know, Austin's.

1:15:52 Speaker 2: Set in the chessboard all over the place. Yeah, and

1:15:55 Speaker 2: this is all leading up in after the nine to

1:15:58 Speaker 2: eleven a half after.

1:15:59 Speaker 3: It, yeah, after it still involved but yeah, so I

1:16:03 Speaker 3: had to go door to door in my neighborhood and

1:16:06 Speaker 3: I had to say to people and I did this

1:16:08 Speaker 3: last September when I could finally show something, I had

1:16:11 Speaker 3: a a episode unredacted, and that episode got a ton

1:16:16 Speaker 3: of viewage and a very positive response. You know, almost

1:16:20 Speaker 3: six hundred thousand people, twenty seven thousand likes. And I

1:16:23 Speaker 3: had to kind of go door to door with people

1:16:24 Speaker 3: that I already had a pretty good relationship with in

1:16:27 Speaker 3: my neighborhood. But I just said, look, he's great. This

1:16:30 Speaker 3: is me. I'm conducting research on government corruption. And if

1:16:35 Speaker 3: you see anybody in this neighborhood walking around, selish, say something.

1:16:41 Speaker 3: And if I'm getting arrested, and if I'm screaming at

1:16:44 Speaker 3: you that these people aren't record, yeah, active duty, whatever

1:16:48 Speaker 3: the hell the case.

1:16:49 Speaker 2: Do you have a kill switch?

1:16:50 Speaker 3: So it's funny, Yes, I do.

1:16:52 Speaker 2: I have.

1:16:52 Speaker 3: I have multiple people that you could never tie to me.

1:16:57 Speaker 3: I've got no family ties, no friend tie. People that

1:17:00 Speaker 3: I've met after the fact that have just stepped up

1:17:04 Speaker 3: and have said, look, you know, God forbid anything happens.

1:17:09 Speaker 3: I want to help you. How can I be of service?

1:17:12 Speaker 3: And I've said to these individuals, you can be my

1:17:14 Speaker 3: kill switch. If God forbids something happens. You've got all

1:17:18 Speaker 3: the information you've got all my access to my cloud drives.

1:17:21 Speaker 3: My stuff is you can.

1:17:24 Speaker 2: See off I see you won't travel without it. I

1:17:26 Speaker 2: will not travel anywhere like your nuclear football. Yeah, literally,

1:17:29 Speaker 2: that's exactly what it is off screen right now. There's

1:17:31 Speaker 2: my computer and a.

1:17:32 Speaker 3: Laptop, but all my stuff is backed up with multiple

1:17:36 Speaker 3: cloud drives, and like these people have access to it all.

1:17:42 Speaker 3: And my wife knows, like if one of these few

1:17:45 Speaker 3: individuals gets in touch with her, to give them whatever

1:17:48 Speaker 3: they need, you know. So yeah, I've got some people

1:17:51 Speaker 3: that are helping me out. And you've taken precaution to

1:17:55 Speaker 3: the next level. We've got alarms on our house, We've

1:17:58 Speaker 3: got cameras in our property. We put all of our

1:18:01 Speaker 3: shit into a trust so nobody can come after me.

1:18:05 Speaker 3: And in the grand scheme of things, I don't have shit.

1:18:07 Speaker 3: I'm a disabled veteran. That's it, you know. I'm just

1:18:09 Speaker 3: a disabled veteran. I don't have any ties to any

1:18:12 Speaker 3: deep pools of money or anything like that. So if

1:18:15 Speaker 3: you really want you do have time.

1:18:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, And that's their worst nightmare.

1:18:20 Speaker 3: They hate it. And I'm I'm at my very core,

1:18:22 Speaker 3: at my very core, and you can prove this looking

1:18:24 Speaker 3: at my kindergarten report card, at my very core, I

1:18:28 Speaker 3: despise corruption, and I despise like authority and yeah all

1:18:34 Speaker 3: the practical Yeah, my kindergarten report card. It's like respects

1:18:37 Speaker 3: other students, yes, respects authority, No, follows classroom rules.

1:18:42 Speaker 2: No.

1:18:43 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I'm at my very core. A grunt still,

1:18:46 Speaker 3: you know, the haircut, it's stuck something, I'm stuck.

1:18:50 Speaker 2: I can tell your I come from a military family,

1:18:54 Speaker 2: so I see the mannerism.

1:18:56 Speaker 3: You get it, you know, And I'm surrounded.

1:18:58 Speaker 2: You know, I I was the only reason I didn't

1:19:01 Speaker 2: go in is because of my crohns. They wouldn't let me.

1:19:04 Speaker 3: That's ridiculous illness. Sure, but yeah, yeah, my dad's side

1:19:08 Speaker 3: of the family a lot of military I'm still serving today.

1:19:11 Speaker 3: My mom's side, we had, you know a lot of

1:19:13 Speaker 3: people as well, going all the way back to some

1:19:16 Speaker 3: of our most ancient wars in the United States, you know,

1:19:20 Speaker 3: some of our you know.

1:19:22 Speaker 2: We need to move past this era of war. Well off,

1:19:26 Speaker 2: it's hearing and war mongering, Like I mean, it is

1:19:32 Speaker 2: so primitive. Yeah, it's we can't continue this way.

1:19:36 Speaker 3: It's a cave man instinct. And when it happens. The

1:19:40 Speaker 3: people that help make the decisions that they get, they

1:19:44 Speaker 3: get enriched by it. The military industrial complex is a

1:19:48 Speaker 3: thing where a lot of money.

1:19:50 Speaker 2: I'm speaking to Laura Eisenhower on Wednesday, and she is

1:19:56 Speaker 2: the granddaughter of.

1:19:59 Speaker 3: Dwight.

1:19:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, the President eyesen hour and you don't classically warned

1:20:03 Speaker 2: us about the military industrial complex on his you know,

1:20:07 Speaker 2: his inaugural what do they call the exit speech?

1:20:10 Speaker 3: Oh, I know what you're talking about.

1:20:12 Speaker 2: On his farewell speech, he warned us that the military

1:20:15 Speaker 2: industrial complex has had gone it had gone too far.

1:20:19 Speaker 2: And this is a guy who was, you know, a

1:20:21 Speaker 2: general in Normandy saying that the military industrial complex had

1:20:26 Speaker 2: gone so far. He's a career military right for that

1:20:30 Speaker 2: guy to say that, like he was trying to warn

1:20:33 Speaker 2: us of. Because think about this.

1:20:37 Speaker 3: There's a lot we can also look to. There's a

1:20:39 Speaker 3: guy that spent twenty eight years in you know, involved

1:20:44 Speaker 3: with Congress, guy by the name of Mike Lofgren. He

1:20:47 Speaker 3: wrote a great essay called Anatomy of the Deep State.

1:20:50 Speaker 3: If you're listening, I would highly recommend you know, digging

1:20:52 Speaker 3: into that. But he also wrote a book on the

1:20:54 Speaker 3: deep state and just the place that we've come to

1:20:58 Speaker 3: now and some of the material consequences that happen as

1:21:02 Speaker 3: a result of this entity that operates right out in

1:21:05 Speaker 3: the open for all to see. But still, you know

1:21:09 Speaker 3: how the the national security state has basically been privatized,

1:21:14 Speaker 3: you know, in the United States, has been the industrialized.

1:21:16 Speaker 3: We we have this institution of control that basically relies

1:21:24 Speaker 3: on surveilling us at every angle, and there's there's no

1:21:28 Speaker 3: price that's too deep. They're going to continue to just

1:21:31 Speaker 3: operate this way without any accountability. So that's why I say,

1:21:35 Speaker 3: you know, we you know, I would like to think

1:21:38 Speaker 3: that with all the books that have been written and

1:21:40 Speaker 3: all the people that are aware, you know, that this

1:21:43 Speaker 3: actually happened, that you know, you know, the world can

1:21:47 Speaker 3: finally see that it's time to take action. So I

1:21:51 Speaker 3: firmly believe we just have to get people on the

1:21:53 Speaker 3: other side of the political veil. And everybody's like, we're

1:21:57 Speaker 3: not voting our way out of this. It's like, well,

1:21:58 Speaker 3: I hope that. I hope the guy we can because

1:22:03 Speaker 3: you know, we as a as a population aren't ready

1:22:07 Speaker 3: and I don't think we're capable of dealing with an

1:22:10 Speaker 3: armed apparatus whose guns are fixed upon us. You know,

1:22:13 Speaker 3: this is no longer like the ancient days of back

1:22:17 Speaker 3: in the day when it was you know, we were fighting,

1:22:19 Speaker 3: you know, for our freedoms from from England. Tyranny and oppression.

1:22:23 Speaker 3: Different now, you know. So they've got all the tools,

1:22:25 Speaker 3: they've got all the abilities to monitor, they've got the

1:22:28 Speaker 3: weapons systems. I mean, look what they just did down

1:22:30 Speaker 3: in in you know, with Maduro. They just went into

1:22:33 Speaker 3: a region, killed a bunch of people, didn't take a

1:22:36 Speaker 3: single casualty, took a president hostage, took his wife hostage.

1:22:40 Speaker 2: And what about the what about the guy the pilot

1:22:45 Speaker 2: in Iran? They the CIA admitted that they had this

1:22:50 Speaker 2: technology called the ghost Murmur. And and so the pilot

1:22:55 Speaker 2: that went down down in Iran, they found him using

1:22:59 Speaker 2: this device that they called ghost Murmur. And essentially it

1:23:05 Speaker 2: found him by detecting his heartbeat, singling his heartbeat out

1:23:11 Speaker 2: from thirty nine miles out, discerning it from animals and

1:23:18 Speaker 2: everything else living and singling his heart beat out. And

1:23:23 Speaker 2: that's how they found him.

1:23:24 Speaker 3: And the technology.

1:23:26 Speaker 2: Credit to who ever named it ghost Murmur, the most

1:23:29 Speaker 2: badass name, but that's the technology we're up against.

1:23:33 Speaker 3: Shit, yeah, we better And the guy.

1:23:35 Speaker 2: Who's running pallaeers also giving fucking lectures about the anti

1:23:39 Speaker 2: Christ and how he's totally not the anti Christ.

1:23:42 Speaker 3: And talking about how murdering people you know, it's like.

1:23:45 Speaker 3: And when asked if humanity should live on.

1:23:49 Speaker 2: You or I would go immediately without hesitation yes, he

1:23:53 Speaker 2: was like, uh, it's what is going on here? But listen,

1:24:04 Speaker 2: just so the cameras don't alread. On this main episode,

1:24:07 Speaker 2: we solve a member's only segment to film. What is

1:24:10 Speaker 2: one thing if you could try to, if you could

1:24:14 Speaker 2: wanted to get one thing through to the person listening

1:24:19 Speaker 2: or watching, what would it be?

1:24:22 Speaker 3: Stay tuned, because I can tell you beneath the surface,

1:24:26 Speaker 3: there is a lot of stuff happening out of the

1:24:29 Speaker 3: public light in our lifetimes. We are going to see

1:24:33 Speaker 3: the narrative shift we're going to and there's enough people

1:24:37 Speaker 3: on this issue that I think are operating in such

1:24:40 Speaker 3: a way that there's going to have to be some

1:24:44 Speaker 3: form of accountability. You know, Just stay tuned. You know.

1:24:48 Speaker 3: The the hard thing about nine to eleven Truth is

1:24:51 Speaker 3: that there seems to be a lot of mistruth within it,

1:24:55 Speaker 3: and that's being dealt with in real time as we speak.

1:24:58 Speaker 3: There's there's people that are devoting their lives to this,

1:25:02 Speaker 3: and so you know, stay tuned. And not only that,

1:25:05 Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of ways you can follow my

1:25:07 Speaker 3: efforts and all these other people, you know, my efforts

1:25:10 Speaker 3: on social media. If you just want to go to

1:25:13 Speaker 3: an x, you can go to oryan project nine one

1:25:15 Speaker 3: one on Instagram, go to Awakened Adam and just stand by.

1:25:21 Speaker 3: I'm confident when I say that my writing work is

1:25:25 Speaker 3: going to have the last is the last say on this.

1:25:28 Speaker 3: I'm confident. We haven't even gotten to touch all of

1:25:30 Speaker 3: the other things it exposes, but it will and we will.

1:25:35 Speaker 3: I'll come back any time, and I can just say,

1:25:37 Speaker 3: fly you back in that please. Yeah, I'm always willing

1:25:40 Speaker 3: to come back to Boston. This is this is a

1:25:42 Speaker 3: special city to me. It's one of my favorite cities

1:25:44 Speaker 3: on the planet. But but yeah, just stay tuned, and

1:25:48 Speaker 3: I promise you this issue.

1:25:50 Speaker 2: Should they write their number of Congress and say like

1:25:53 Speaker 2: look into this, well.

1:25:54 Speaker 3: When my book is released, it's it's all the Foyer

1:25:57 Speaker 3: request responses, the deep die into Hani Hanjour, all the

1:26:01 Speaker 3: evidence that currently exists with people like Aldo Marquis and

1:26:05 Speaker 3: Craig Ranky, citizen Investigation Team, people like Xander Arena who

1:26:08 Speaker 3: have mathematically proven that this is impossible. You know, things

1:26:13 Speaker 3: don't ever change at the speed that we want them to.

1:26:15 Speaker 3: But I'm calling on people to take action specifically, you know,

1:26:20 Speaker 3: every Congressman, every senator, every single person that has any

1:26:24 Speaker 3: kind of influence. Look at this book. And I'm even

1:26:27 Speaker 3: making it so easy. I'm gonna make it to where

1:26:29 Speaker 3: you can just take the information, plug it into g

1:26:32 Speaker 3: you know, to AI, and say summarize this, and it's

1:26:35 Speaker 3: gonna say, yeah, this is this is evidence, this is

1:26:38 Speaker 3: new evidence. It's we should be questioning people. Here are

1:26:41 Speaker 3: their names. I even got my suspects address is home address.

1:26:45 Speaker 3: Because when somebody starts to threaten you, you better believe

1:26:48 Speaker 3: I'm going to try to retalent.

1:26:50 Speaker 2: You're gonna have your retalid state. You're gonna have your

1:26:54 Speaker 2: retaliation ready.

1:26:56 Speaker 3: Anything happens to the ready. Yeah, anything happens to me.

1:26:59 Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about violence of course, that are

1:27:02 Speaker 3: going to be ready to go after him.

1:27:05 Speaker 2: Legally and make it public like immediately, because.

1:27:09 Speaker 3: Family members of mine, people with a lot of steak

1:27:11 Speaker 3: in my life because they love me.

1:27:13 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, this is the game we play. Yes, you know

1:27:17 Speaker 2: when we when we speak out, we've seen what's happened.

1:27:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, And and there there are a lot of things

1:27:24 Speaker 3: in between, you know, where we're going and here that

1:27:28 Speaker 3: are in our way. You know, a media that's also

1:27:30 Speaker 3: complicit in this.

1:27:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, look at a Project mocking Bird.

1:27:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, the CIA, the the federal apparatus has been overtaken.

1:27:39 Speaker 3: And the sooner Hollywood realize this, the better. It's just

1:27:43 Speaker 3: it's the way it is. And I have to think,

1:27:46 Speaker 3: especially with your subject, you're talking to a lot of

1:27:48 Speaker 3: people that there's a lot of people like myself that

1:27:50 Speaker 3: have devoted their lives to getting to the bottom of issues.

1:27:53 Speaker 3: And I think that these people are just going to

1:27:54 Speaker 3: start springing up all over the place. There's there's people

1:27:56 Speaker 3: that talk about how Oklahoma City needs revision, the bomb

1:28:00 Speaker 3: that took place there, the nineteen ninety three trade center incident,

1:28:03 Speaker 3: and my work bleeds into all this. There's there's people

1:28:06 Speaker 3: that believe that World War One, world War two, you know,

1:28:09 Speaker 3: all of it needs revision. We need to really understand

1:28:13 Speaker 3: why we got involved in these places, what was driving

1:28:15 Speaker 3: these forces, you know, because what we're being told about

1:28:18 Speaker 3: nine to eleven.

1:28:20 Speaker 2: Is not the whole truth.

1:28:21 Speaker 3: Not the whole truth. And I can prove that.

1:28:24 Speaker 2: But do you think in a court you could prove

1:28:27 Speaker 2: beyond the shadow of a doubt that without question?

1:28:29 Speaker 3: Okay, without question. Because the courts are going to have

1:28:32 Speaker 3: to understand what this gentleman and his teammates have said,

1:28:37 Speaker 3: they're also going to have to look at the responses

1:28:39 Speaker 3: at these institutions at the state, the local, and the

1:28:42 Speaker 3: federal level have said about the information I've asked them

1:28:46 Speaker 3: to provide. It's all right there. Unfortunately, we live in

1:28:51 Speaker 3: a totally corrupted state.

1:28:54 Speaker 2: So yeah, well listen, thank you.

1:28:58 Speaker 3: Thank you for service.

1:29:00 Speaker 2: Appreciate it, your service to this country and your service on.

1:29:05 Speaker 3: The day and those two hundred and.

1:29:07 Speaker 2: Forty hours on site of the US mainland's most chaotic

1:29:14 Speaker 2: and tragic day. And whether those who whether those who

1:29:22 Speaker 2: did this to us were our own, they're not our

1:29:27 Speaker 2: own because they're not us, right, So, whether it was

1:29:33 Speaker 2: terrorists or whether it was this cabal that we talk about,

1:29:40 Speaker 2: it is our opposition and they are not for us.

1:29:44 Speaker 2: So either way, they are a problem. And I I'm

1:29:49 Speaker 2: so thankful there are people like you who are out

1:29:51 Speaker 2: of here trying to do the right thing and won't

1:29:56 Speaker 2: just tow the company line, because that's easy. That's easy

1:30:00 Speaker 2: to do, to look the other way. It's easy to

1:30:04 Speaker 2: not stand up every day and want to make change

1:30:07 Speaker 2: and do you know, take a risk. It's easy to

1:30:11 Speaker 2: just want to fall into the nine to five and

1:30:13 Speaker 2: then to retire and to do all this. What isn't

1:30:16 Speaker 2: easy is to go against the green. So commendable my friend,

1:30:21 Speaker 2: and especially from someone who is there on the day.

1:30:24 Speaker 2: So I would love to continue and do it, you know,

1:30:28 Speaker 2: as many episodes with you as possible, especially once your

1:30:31 Speaker 2: book comes out.

1:30:31 Speaker 3: Do you have a rough idea of Oh, every time

1:30:34 Speaker 3: I try to give a timeline, it doesn't work out.

1:30:36 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:30:36 Speaker 3: I've got so many appeals right now with a lot

1:30:40 Speaker 3: of agencies that seem to be cooperating trying to get

1:30:42 Speaker 3: to the bottom of how much information they can give me.

1:30:45 Speaker 2: Do you have to clear this with anybody like Dobbs or.

1:30:49 Speaker 3: No, I just anybody can make an information request.

1:30:52 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm talking about the book. Oh no,

1:30:54 Speaker 2: do you have to get it cleared by any agency

1:30:57 Speaker 2: because you were no.

1:30:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, they could try to play some kind of game,

1:31:01 Speaker 3: be like, well you technically sign that NDA state and

1:31:04 Speaker 3: you weren't going to talk about this, and I'd be like, well,

1:31:06 Speaker 3: show me where that is first.

1:31:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, provide the document so that I can see it. Yeah,

1:31:10 Speaker 2: and then we'll talk. Yeah exactly. Okay, Well yeah, so

1:31:14 Speaker 2: we have that member segment.

1:31:15 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm not suicidal. Guys, God my god,

1:31:20 Speaker 3: I like to end on that.

1:31:22 Speaker 2: Just wait, get a close up on him. Let me

1:31:26 Speaker 2: ask you a couple of questions, Adam.

1:31:33 Speaker 3: Are you suicidal? I am not suicidal.

1:31:37 Speaker 2: Do you feel that your mental well being is at

1:31:40 Speaker 2: all shaky or questionable in reliability?

1:31:45 Speaker 3: No? In fact, I have mental health professionals that have

1:31:48 Speaker 3: stated they're willing to testify and go on record that

1:31:52 Speaker 3: I have a clear mind and that.

1:31:54 Speaker 2: I'm you're of clear and and you no one is

1:31:58 Speaker 2: influencing your division decision making.

1:32:00 Speaker 3: No. I've never been given a single penny when it

1:32:03 Speaker 3: comes to this issue to say or do anything. I'm

1:32:06 Speaker 3: not a part of any nefarious efforts that are trying

1:32:09 Speaker 3: to pull some strings like the you know, the Freemasons

1:32:13 Speaker 3: or any of those types of organizations. I'm not, you know,

1:32:16 Speaker 3: involved in any of that stuff. And I don't single

1:32:18 Speaker 3: them out. I don't study any of that stuff. But

1:32:20 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that you know, there's there's a lot

1:32:22 Speaker 3: of connections of freemasonry too at nine to eleven. Believe

1:32:24 Speaker 3: it or not, Yeah, there is, but that's a whole

1:32:27 Speaker 3: other topic of discussion. But no, I'm I'm, I'm just

1:32:29 Speaker 3: a there's no day paying you to talk. There's no

1:32:34 Speaker 3: well I've said that you can put me up into

1:32:37 Speaker 3: a polygraph machine and ask me anything you want. I

1:32:40 Speaker 3: have nothing to.

1:32:41 Speaker 2: Hide, understand, I just you know, I think it'd be

1:32:43 Speaker 2: I think it's fun to just get it out there

1:32:45 Speaker 2: for those skepticals. But all right, we got a member's

1:32:48 Speaker 2: only segment and then we'll get you out of here.

1:32:50 Speaker 2: My friend, we got a flight for you to catch

1:32:52 Speaker 2: so you can get home on time. With everyone out there,

1:32:56 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Continue to seek truth, don't don't

1:33:03 Speaker 2: accept everything at face value, and don't be afraid to

1:33:08 Speaker 2: ask questions.

1:33:09 Speaker 3: Uh.

1:33:11 Speaker 2: I know my audience is super great, uh in that

1:33:14 Speaker 2: in that sense where you know we're all pretty like minded.

1:33:18 Speaker 2: And I implore you to follow Adam and follow his journey,

1:33:23 Speaker 2: and I think we'll have many more conversations to uh

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