#95 SEV TOK- UFO/Alien experiencer- MUFON investigator/Author
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I gotta probably get this off the screen. That's probably a good way
to start. Welcome back to Total Disclosure. Everybody. My day is Tyler.
I am the host creator. As I said earlier today, we have
a great show for you. Uh, SEV Talk is joining us. She's
a mofon H field investigator. She is UH an experiencer herself. She as
an author. She does the UFO lecture circuit. UH so she goes around
and speaks uh with moufon at these really great uh and large conferences that are
held every year. UH. And she's just a tremendous, tremendous guest.
So we want to welcome Sev Talked to the show. Welcome to Total Disclosure.
I'm super happy to have you on. It's a pleasure to be here.
I'm honored. Thank you, well, thank you, thank you.
And of course, you know, I think I think what's what would be
best is to get to know uh you as a person and how you got
into this field, how you became SEV talked to UFO investigator Seth Talk the
UFO this Seth Talk that you know. So let's maybe run down the the
early the early story. How did you get to where you are are now
and what got you interested in the subject. That's kind of obscure. I
was never interested in the subject until and seventeen when I moved here, excuse
me, to the inner banks of North Carolina. I moved here from Capitol
Hill, Washington, DC, and up until that point, I had been
an experiencer since childhood. My first earliest memories, conscious memories are from the
age ten, and I came in contact with a variety of beings up till
twenty seventeen. And I was a different person back then because I thought everyone
was victimizing me. I thought I was the victim in every situation. So
I assumed that the grays were victimizing me too. And so I moved here
in twenty seventeen, and it was my second morning here and I found a
X mark looked like it was burned into my tush. And then nine days
later there was another one on the other cheek, exactly like this one.
And that was accompanied by this conscious memory of feeling like I was paralyzed on
a bed in this room. I didn't know where I was, and I
was on my side and I could move my neck, and when I turned
around, there was a gray right here, and we made eye contact and
we just stared into each other's eyes, and I was scared to death.
And it was that that made me finally admit that I need help. And
then I can't hide this anymore because hiding it negatively adversely affected my life,
as it does because when you hide a big truth about yourself, you're not
your real self, You're not your authentic self, and then nothing feels right.
You took the words out of my mind. I was gonna say,
you know for so long. You know, you don't have to say your
age, but you know what percentage of your life you I mean ninety nine
ninety eight percent? So my percentage of my life that I hid this?
Yeah? What ninety eight? Now I hit it from ten to fifty five.
Yeah, So I mean that's a lot. Why basically, your your
whole life, You've been putting on a persona for people that maybe didn't really
know what was going on on the inside. And I can't experience. I
can't every time I talk to an experience or I can't. Really it's I
can't. I can't get in your shoes. It can't get in you know.
And that's why I try to do this as as as much as I
can. But can you tell me, tell me more about what it's like
to be inside? What's is there any smells? What when you made contact
with this being? You know, was the what was coming? What are
the senses that you're feeling in these abduction moments and experiences that you can recall,
Well, I've had several, and they're all a little different. I've
had contact with the Grays, including the one I just told you about in
twenty seventeen. And also I had made contact with the Grays when I did
this spur of the moment trip to Roswell, New Mexico with my ex partner.
When I was a little girl, I came in contact with a completely
different being one time when I was sitting in my living room just a couple
of years ago, these blue light beings showed up. So I have a
variety of different experiences. I also have conscious memories of mill At military abductions,
and those are very different. Those are not nights. They're either neutral
or they're not. They're bad, and they're actually more difficult for me to
talk about out then my et contact. Like when I'm talking about it now,
I can feel my stomach tightening right and you know it's ironic or I
guess in the community we would call it a synchronicity, is uh, And
I guess maybe I should ask you, how does this mic sound, it
is everything on and okay, let me get that out of Yeah, if
anyone watched our episode with Melinda Leslie, yes, she was having internet issues,
so I was focusing on trying to help her, and I didn't go
through my pre checklist and my microphone was off, so the only thing that
was picking up my audio is the camera in the episode. Sound from my
perspective, Oh my god, it sounded terrible. So uh. But she
brought up, of course, her abduction experiences and how they were followed by
my Lab, and it seems there's a connection there. So there's definitely a
targeting of of extraterrestrial abductees with these my Lab experiences. And again, like
you said, they tend to be overtly negative or maybe somewhat neutral, but
never friendly and there but the et ones, there is some sort of compassion
in some weird way. Yeah, what the et ones. Often information is
telepathically exchanged, and often it's beautiful information, helpful information. So I'm an
experiencer advocate and I help experiences around the world, And after interviewing and speaking
with thousands of experiencers, I've discovered that there's five basic topics of information that
the ETS are imparting on us to help us, to benefit us. So
you don't get that in a milab, because in a millab it's a debriefing.
And I had this one situation, and this is not uncommon, when
they wanted me to do something. I do not remember what it was,
but it was psychic in nature, because you know, our government and other
governments are engaged in psychic warfare and have been for a while. And so
they wanted me to do something psychic in nature and I refused because I knew
it was bad. I knew it was nefarious, I knew the reasons were
not positive. And because I refused, I was tortured. And it's really
I can't even talk about what they did because it's still hard capital D torture.
That's it was a mental torture. Was absolutely horrible. I'd never been
tortured mentally like that in my life. Yeah, And for anyone who's listening
or watching, I mean, when you imagine someone was able to pierce the
veil of your consciousness, now that little voice in your head, you know
that you have that that that you have, picture someone being able to override
that and just basically tune you into you know, I don't know, uh,
some really annoying song over and over and over and over again like that.
So that is the stuff that we know that that that projects like MK
Ultra we're looking and seeking to be able to do. So there's much,
there's a there's a heavy precedent for it. And if if and I think
you know, with everything that's going on right now politically with with UFOs and
their occupants, uh talk of a partnership. Uh in your experiences, have
you ever come across any information that there may be uh a partnership happening.
Well, there was a partnership when it comes to the hybridization program, because
I've been given information about that too, and I was actually I think it
was in twenty twelve. This is my book You Have the Right to Talk
to Aliens, and I had drawings in it. This is the being that
was standing behind me. And when we locked eyes, hold on, let
me put you full screen there, and I describe it like it was like
looking into two pools of black oil. And when we looked at each other,
these little riches right here were like little wrinkles, and there was no
telepathy. So that's not a headband, like a fashion statement. I'm just
kidding. I'm kidding. What was scariest was that there was no exchange of
communication, because there's always communication in my instances, always, and the fact
that when we locked eyes and there was nothing that made it creepy, and
that made it even scarier. And then I popped back in my bedroom and
I had already had the first x R. Here's the X by the way,
that's the X that's like, that's an actual picture. That's the picture
that was on my left cheek of my toe. Oh my god, it
looks like a Canadian docuseries. And I actually have a butt double. Oh
my god. I know, I hear it's an awkward experience. But that's
okay. I I trust me, I get it. I you know,
before I did this show. Uh, And you know, it's funny.
I do have like I have something to tell you when we when it's appropriate.
But so this bedroom is actually where the room I'm in now is where
my mother passed away, and it's she also where she slept for her you
know, her adult life. This is her room and she's the reason I
do this show. She's the reason I left Hollywood. So butt doubles,
hand doubles. They literally do do doubles for everything because they want Hollywood is
fake, it's perfection. It's fake perfection, and it's a toxic environment in
my experiences. Uh that's why I left it. But it's funny that you
say a butt double. Yeah. Actually, Uh there's a brand new organization
in town. It's called the Hollywood Member of Yeah, so that's what Steve
Bassett, Dan Dan here, Harry a A Uh founded it. I'm very
I'm such an advocate and and I'm actually so Steve will be on the show
in a couple of days as we're recording this. So Steve is actually a
really good friend, so is in Daniel. And I'm very much for what
they are doing. Because if we can get to talking to directors on like
directors that aren't just you know project uh doing projects like you know, small
sci fi projects, but these really large budget, big budget studio films and
get some of the real experiences and real life culture of the phenomenon in there.
And and I mean this is that could be a huge asset. Well,
the truth would be a huge asset. Yeah. Again, you know
what we want to do because it's filled with Hollywood executives and with euphologists and
experiencers and so together we want to help Hollywood tell the truth. And that
makes such a scary fear based exactly right, because everyone, I mean you
you people think like you know, your average Joe. If you say aliens,
they think, you know, Independence Day, you know, but it's
just an alien and alien you know that that series of the really Scott,
it's it's really that's really the foundation. But Star Trek you know later later,
pretty good example of what I think uh should be the model. Uh
and and probably is most close to the truth, but that's beside the point.
I agree though, well Star Wars might be close to the truth too.
That's a scary thought. Well, not all aspects of it. Yeah,
the Garth Vader's running around the universe somewhere, No, I'm not talking
about that talk star appears and things like that. That's what I'm referring to.
So the ability see what is what you're talking about? Like, so
the ability to traverse the cosmos in you know, like be able to create
wormholes that kind of technology. Yeah, yeah, so, and many experiences
are going through those time warps. Did you know that I have a planet
in a star system named after me in the Star Wars galactic system. No,
I don't. There's a planet in star system step Talk already even in
Wikipedia. Yeah, it was named after me because several years ago, my
best friend was dating a writer and he got a job writing a short story
for Star Wars, and he said he liked my name, step Talk,
I like your name, and he said I'm going to name a planet after
you and my story. And I thought he was kidding, but the story
came out and there I was. That's cannon, and it was just mentioned.
If anyone watches Star Wars and or my name was mentioned, No,
no, it's around who owns my name? Me or Disney. I don't
know anymore. I am pretty sure you would have a hard fight that Disney
owns the right. Hopefully hopefully he wrote it in a different way, like
together rather than I don't know, but yeah, no, you might.
You might not even have the rights to your name, honey, that's how
Hollywood is. He would really fight you on that. You are a universe,
your planet in in in a distant galaxy and Star Wars. That's so.
That's amazing, It is amazing. He gifted me eternity so cool.
Oh my god, I don't think anyone else wow that you just hit me.
It's like one of the coolest facts that have probably ever ever gotten.
So all right, the Schumer the stuff, the Schumer Amendment. Have you
been paying attention to what's been going on in the Okay? So the Schumer
Amendment has essentially fallen apart of course. You know there was even a clip
today of of Schumer talking about it. You know, Heaving gave gave nod
to to the late Senator Harry Reid is inspiration for this and who is very
interested in this topic. And you know in twenty seventeen this article came out
two thousands, you know, Glowing or is Black Money and really shed light
on this this program is that? Did that help you come come out as
well in that year? Because of course I was a big year for the
topic. You know, a watershed moment, if you will, the aha
moment for most of us. So it did that garner your your your your
coming forward or play a factor? Absolutely not. What made me come forward
was I had an existential crisis with the second X. It was serious.
Wow, Because when I saw the second X I was trying to prepare myself
for it because I had a feeling when I came to in my bedroom and
I had this download of a memory of being paralyzed on that bed with the
gray behind me. I had a feeling I had another X on me,
and I didn't think I was going to be able to handle it. I
thought it would push me off the cliff. So when when I asked him
to look and there was another X, I had an existential crisis. It's
really hard to describe what it feels like because at that moment, I realized
everything that's been happening to me was not a dream. I thought maybe it
was, but it's not. And that's why I'm here to say dreams don't
leave axes on your tush. So a lot of people are making contact,
but they think they're dreams and they're not. So the existential crisis, who
am I like? Who are we? What am I doing in the middle
of the night talking to aliens? Why are they messing with me? Because
back then I thought the grades were messing with me, But I see now
that they were helping me, and I was so confused, like I had
to redefine myself I had to redefine us as human beings. I didn't know
anything anymore, Like I was startying from scratch. And so that's when I
declared I needed help. But I didn't know who was going to help me,
because up until that moment, I stayed clear of anything that had to
do with UFOs, with ets. Uh. You know Whitley's book Communion Union.
Yeah, I looked at it once and turned it upside down. But
now I can look at it. And that's how I know I've healed,
because I can look at Whitney's book right because the front covers. I mean,
if you're an experiencer and you haven't processed it, it triggers you.
Yeah, there's you'd be you'd be you'd be surprised. Actually, I listened.
I listened to a lot of podcasts UFO podcasts, and almost every single
person who's was a had an abduction experience. And then you know, saw
Whitley's book, they like either dropped it or you know, it froze them.
It did something like because it it brought to the forefront. And that's
what's the the So people don't understand the classic arc type of the classic gray
alien. So we could. There's plenty of people that argue, well,
that's from a movie. That's those are that's movie based. Well no,
actually it's not. The people that use that arc type got it from the
Project Blue Book files, i e. Steven Spielberg. So art didn't art
imitated life. So yeah, you know, the chicken and the egg kind
of scenario. So people often think that the arc type originated from cinema,
but no, it's the arc type that influenced cinema around for a while.
Yeah, I mean Betty and Barney Hill described them. You know, Kathleen
Martin is a friend of the show. Uh yeah, you know, she's
a she's a wonderful uh source of knowledge, I mean for this stuff.
And you had physical evidence left on you. Oh I just want to ask
you said you you said you snapped back into your body and once you made
eye contact. I've been running around this theory in my head that what if
abductions are not physical always in nature, but so they maybe they take the
astral form of you out and that's what they abduct. So you're on the
ship you, I mean you yourself. You're on the ship. You you're
able to have memories on the ship, but then you snap back into your
body, but a little mark is left behind, almost as if they like
it's like a it's a remnant byproduct of the situation. I agree with you.
I think it's both. I think there's three D physical contact, but
most contact is happening in what I call the playground of consciousness. Once you
enter the playground of consciousness, where all beings are connected, you're in contact
with all beings, whether it's a spirit guide, whether it's a dead person,
or whether it's an et. And that's why often people who are experiencers
do have supernatural experiences because they are on that playground of consciousness making contact with
all the beings that that are right. And you could also say about like,
for instance, when someone has a near death experience and you know they
see a loved one or a light being, or some people even talk about
seeing the grays and other other beings, you know that there is there there's
a lot of evidence to suggest that there is this conscious playground. I love
the way you just put that on. I'm going to steal that. That's
I just created a marker twenty four oh three. I just stole that from
seth Ok Okay, how do you But by the way, what so are
you Canadian and what is your background heritage? I was born in Istanbul.
My entire family is Turkish, and my and I emigrated from Istanbul to Montreal,
Canada, where my sister was born, and then we emigrated into the
DC suburbs when I was a little girl and I started first grade not knowing
English. Oh that's you know, I mean for anyone who doesn't. So
the connection to Turkey, right, yeah, Turkey's got such a good rich
history. I mean with the things that they're finding out there, you know
that pre date any known Uh. I mean there are underground cities in Turkey
that they are finding. You know that that that made go Beckley Tepee look
like you know, uh, child's play. So you know that's I only
asked this because are do you know anyone else in your family that is potentially
had these experiences because it seems to be a generational thing. Yes. Uh.
My parents were very intuitive and plugged in and psychic, the same thing
with my sister. I was told, however, by the ETS that they
they contacted my sister and she was too scared. They contacted my mother and
she was too scared. They contacted my dad and he was interested. But
uh, it's interesting, WHOA, I like this, this is fun?
Uh uh. My father he passed away six years ago and my mother gave
me a notebook of his where he wrote down many of his supernatural experiences.
And I had never even known about the existence of this book, and so
this is like a gift to me, and it's like a holy grip and
I'm reading them. It could be that he was seeing et visits as angelic
visits or supernatural visits. Maybe he wasn't seeing them as ets, right,
huh. And then there's always that that side of it that people and we've
talked about this many times on this show, that you know, what if
the name is just changed along the way and for different people, it can
mean different things. Right, So where someone said would say divine intervention or
being you know, an angel came down to me could be mistaken technology or
extraterrestrial technology. And it could just you know, the name changes, fairy
angel e t it's all the same phenomena. I don't believe that there are
differences, but yeah, we're all in the same localized like phenomena. It's
it's they have the ability to transcend what we would see as physical reality,
if you will, masters of reality of the physical world. And I think
even Mitchell Kaku has said that that you know, that's like, you know,
at that point you you maybe even considered a god because if you have
master if you have a full mastery over your physical nature, I mean,
you might as well be god at that point, and to anyone under you,
you would look like a god. So I would that book. That's
very interesting that that that you found that And I'm sure it's something that you
I've talked about, but are there any stories that stick out to you in
particular about that your father's experiences in yours being similar, Well, we're both
channeled scientific equations and scientific information which I did not know until he passed away.
We both also downloaded or channeled very spiritual information stuff that I knew was
not coming for me because I had no idea what I was writing. And
also it was coming out in sentence structures that I don't write and I don't
speak, using words that I don't use, and it would come out perfect,
like just pages and pages and there would barely be any mistake in them.
And I don't write like that. When I write, there's like lots
of scratching out and a lot of mistakes and a lot of errors. And
that's how I knew I was writing something that is outside of my consciousness of
what I perceived. Sev is right, So you're it was almost like you
were pulling from the what we would call it the oneness, the one,
the the the ether. You're pulling this from the ether. So I mean,
it's it's perfect because it isn't you. It's you're just channeling it.
Well, it could be me, it could be my higher self, it
could be another being with a body, it could be just a collective consciousness.
You don't always know. Sometimes you do, but not always. And
that's an So when you're when you're when you're having this one of these experiences,
and maybe you can fill me in on this the not not in my
lab but like an actual you know, your your your et contact, you
know how much of it? Do you think that they allow you to remember
portions of it to a degree for you know, in a in a teaching
way, are they what what if you could sum the experiences you have up
as a lesson? Uh, what do you think because you talked about a
couple of things, five or seven things that that that they're imparting on us.
Maybe you could run through some of what those are, because I think
at a time when the world is so divided, you know, maybe we
do need someone to step in and say, you know, hey, it's
it's it's time to end this because you're you're you're going to implode if you
keep on the path you're on. Oh and really that's why everything seems like
it's falling apart, because we're purging, and so we can actually see this
transformative time on our earth as we're going to hell or this is the beginning
of something good. Which way are we want to go? And because I
was told the Grace told me when they were the information about the hybridization program,
they told me that the embryos, the billions of embryos that they've created,
are being harvested and are being kept in case we annihilate ourselves and they're
going to be used to receive this planet. And they said, we're on
the path of annihilation, but it's not too late. We could turn around.
But we're on it, but we're not fatally destined for it yet.
That would what when you look at it through that lens, that would explain.
So that would explain why the hybridization program isn't. People don't seem like
it's you know, when they talk about their fetuses being stolen and then maybe
meeting them later in life in some form or fashion, it's almost like,
uh, this that that would be if that, if that's really you know,
if if that's accurate, that is a grave warning that we need to
and that's what they're doing. I mean, they're giving us grave warnings in
a variety of ways. I have a picture here of my experience and when
they show me a baby in a tube, here it is there we go,
baby in a tube, and that's me standing in front of this tube.
This was I think in twenty twelve, and there were three Grace behind
me. And this is before I knew that Grace come in different sizes.
They got a tall, medium, in short and they telepathically, they were
nice. They telepathically said we're just going to stand back here while you take
your time and don't be in a hurry. And so I turned back around
and I look at this baby floating in this tube with this bluish water.
The room is dark, and the baby's eyes are open and they're the bluest
eyes I've ever seen in my life. And I knew the baby was a
boy, even though his legs were positioned so that I really couldn't see.
And I had no idea why I was looking at this baby. I didn't
feel anything for it. And so fast forward maybe four years, and then
I'm in Roswell and my ex and I have this experience and I'm given more
information about the hybridization program and I'm reminded of that incident and in one of
my MILAB experiences, I was asked to heal hybrid babies. That felt like
a MILAB experience. So what are MILabs doing with hybrid sick babies? Like,
something more is going on from my experience than just humans and grays.
There's something else going on too. There's some other body that I think is
trying to make hybrid beings and is not doing a good job. And so
they asked me to heal them and they weren't human babies. Huh. Now
with those my babies, I don't know. So I've come in contact with
three hybrid babies. I can't say their mind, no one ever told me
they are yours, And it could be going back to your question about remembering
and getting information, uh about your experiences. I believe that everything has an
energy to it, including a memory, including a thought, everything, And
I think that when my frequency matches the frequency of that memory or the frequency
of the information, it's like an AHA moment, like I align with it
and I can know it and I can accept it. That's what we call
AHA moments. This is what you want because everything is inside of us.
It's just that all of a sudden we resonate with a knowing and it feels
like, all of a sudden we know it. It's only because we've consciously
focused on it. So it can very well be that there is more to
my hybrid experiences. But maybe I'm still a little freaked out about it.
Maybe I'm not ready to know more. Maybe I can't accept that I have
hybrid children. I don't know. I'm still processing that right that And and
yeah, I mean that that is going to be a journey that you take.
You know that that if now, Oh, I'm sorry, I just
want to say one thing I have with experiences who've had wonderful, beautiful experiences
with their hybrid children, so it's not always sad and scary and victimizing.
Yeah, forgive me if I'm getting this wrong. But the lady who worked
on Baywatch, I can't remember her name, Kimberly something I believe she was
was was shown her hybrid children and felt the connection to and it was a
very like emotional experience. And that's how I've heard it described many times.
And and it's also like, you know, it's like a closure in some
way, because you know, I can only assume from a mother's perspective,
you know, to think you're pregnant, to know you're pregnant, right,
uh, and then all of a sudden not be And then people are telling
you you're crazy and that you you know, you've tricked yourself into a false
pregnancy, which is apparently a medical term for a literal tricking of the body
into being pregnant, which it's a phenomenon they still can't explain and for obvious
reasons. Now, is it a byproduct of these my labs? Is it
a byproduct of these et contacts experiences? That would make a lot of sense
when you start looking at at it through these perspectives and with these with these
glasses on. It starts making a lot more sense to what does just the
whole picture that the that the government is is most likely working alongside these groups,
but they're also probably double crossing them at the same time. Yeah,
like we always do. And it seems like every time there's a human involved
in my experience, it's a crappy experience. Yeah, we tend to double
cross, right, We tend to tend to seek and gain or or tend
to tend to do what what the greedy thing, right, just double Really,
what they've done is horrific because they've double cross the the American public by
hiding the truth and making many of us. Uh, there are experiences that
have killed themselves, yes, taking their own lives. Yes, yeah this
is or still or still live out there in a paralyzed you know. Uh,
we talk about being paralyzed and in fear and people there are people out
there right now, still in the closet with abduction experiences who will never ever
come out and say anything because they are way too afraid. That's okay,
But what I say is, please come out to yourself, because if you
don't come out to yourself, that that lie infiltrates every arena of your life.
You can't escape it. You can't compartmentalize and say, all right,
I had an experience with this being that's not human, and then I'm going
to try and live the rest of my life. Okay, No, you
can't that. You have to incorporate it. Yeah, And honestly, someone
said something to me one time that I thought was crazy at the time.
But the more that more time goes on and the more stuff that happens,
the more I'm like, huh, it's after disclosure, right, when we're
told that the real truth, you know, whatever, whatever verse of the
truth that the government tells us, that if they ever tell us, they
would most likely end up being like AA groups meant for abductees. Abductees would
start forming these like anonymous groups to go talk to each other. Have you
seen the TV show People of Earth? Yes, it's like that. Yeah,
it was only on two seasons. That show actually is a part of
my Roswell story. That plays part of my Roswell story. That show yeah
interesting really like yeah, but O'Brien, but there are experiences support groups I
co host one we have, and so that would become more mainstream and and
and and people would have more access to it. And it's like a a
what would you call it? Well, it depends on this would be a
A yeah. But because whatever I think, I think the general public will
end up having a term for the others. I think, I think hear
me. I think we'll end up calling whoever the others at first, So
it'll be other the others anonymous because we're we're going to think about how we
already factionalize ourselves, right, so I do I think from the jump from
from a day one, after disclosure, there'll be an others vibe and then
hopefully, you know, we as a species will start to grow and realize,
you know, our place and the cosmic uh scale is unique. It's
it's still something to be proud of. Just because we're not top of the
food chain doesn't make our experience less unique. It actually makes it more unique
in my opinion. So the experiences that you've gone through, though, I
don't see them as bad. I mean some of them, the my lab
ones I, of course are bad. But for us who haven't been through
these experiences, you know you're doing something very brave by telling telling us your
story. Thank you, that would come out, like when the exs appeared.
I had no intention of coming out at all. I didn't want my
clients to know that I talked to aliens, like this was a deep,
dark secret. And then I talked to Kathy who really helped me, Kathleen
Martin. And when I talked to her, I said, what am I
supposed to do with all this information that they've given me? Because I actually
see myself in my mind's eye talking about it on stage and at that time
that was an insane vision. And she said, I can't tell you what
to do with it. You have to you have to figure that out.
And then it was about two or three months later I woke up and I
declared, I'm writing a book and I'm going to call it. You have
the right to talk to aliens. But when I went to sleep that night,
I had no intention of writing a book none. I woke up and
there it is. So I don't know what happened that night. It was
that it was I think for you, it was you spoke about your aha
moment, right that was that was your aha moment in the grand scheme.
It was your way to cement your legacy into the annals of history as we
know it. So I think I think what you did was the right thing.
Okay, thanks, oh, Kathleen, And I'm sure it was.
So are you a product of the ERT? I am in the ERT.
I'm in the executive committee of the Experience Resource Team, which is move On's
select group of people. There's only about fifty sixty of us around the world,
and we deal with cases that only deal with direct et contact. Yeah,
Earl Anderson's a great friend of mine, Kathleen. Kathleen is a great
friend. I started it started the Yeah, yeah, she's the founder of
the founder of because I think for a long time even mofon had a problem.
They were drawing the line at that they were drawing a line in the
sand, and it didn't feel so inclusive to abductees. And this is another
side of your experience that I want to talk about, is your moofon field
investigation. So you took your own experiences, you're using them now as a
way to help others and also investigate cases to some form or degree. Now,
can you talk to us about some of the cases that you've investigated in
anything that is you know, the noteworthy in your Yes, So I help
experiences not only through mof on but also personally. If you go to my
website plane at sev dot com, you can go to tell me your ET
story. I just fill out a couple of questions and tell me your experience
and I'll respond, or you can go through move on. But the can
you tell me the question again? Oh my god? Wait did I just
get some stories? Okay? I can you move on? Your move on
work, move on or non move on? Because in my talks in conferences,
I love to talk about experience, your stories, and I love to
share the experiences actual drawings and paintings and pictures, and many experiences become very
artistic afterwards. It's not unusual. And they also become vegetarians, that's not
unusual. All of a sudden, they feel much more empathetic and sympathetic towards
all living beings. Uh. There is one case, excuse me, of
a gentleman who was a hunter and and the ET said what are you doing?
And he never hunted again because they made him realize life is precious,
So what are you doing taking it away? Life is precious just for enjoyment,
for sport. And so these are beautiful messages. I don't want to
upset any hunters. I'm just telling you the stories that are being told.
These are true accounts because these ets are helping us remember that we're all connected
and we're all one. They're helping us remember that because we've forgotten that,
and that's why we're so vicious towards each other, because we don't realize that
we're connected. And so they are giving us information about spirituality and personal empowerment.
The ets are giving us information regarding scientific innovation. They give us information
about the hybridization program, they give us information about all humanity's potential fate,
and they give us information on how to strengthen our psychic abilities too. Now,
do you think or or do you know if if this if they have
been here longer than what we longer than us. Do you think that this
presence do you think that maybe part of the secrecy is that the government found
out that we are engineered species, uh, and they don't think that we
could come to terms with, you know, confronting our creator. And do
you think that that could be potential of why there's been you know, almost
resettings of civilizations over the course of history, as we know it. Well,
I'm not sure about why there are resettings of ancient civilizations, but as
to why the government isn't revealing the truth, I think religion just is really
a small part of it. The main part of it is money and control.
That's all Americans care about. That's what our occres about is money and
control. And so this information that, like the scientific innovation, we have
saucers and we're reverse engineering them. I mean, this isn't crazy talk anymore.
And so who's benefiting from this? Who's benefiting from this science? Particular
research organizations, particular huge conglomerates, aerospace tech. They're making a lot of
money off of it, and they know the truth, and they're lying to
us to sell us more iPads. And that is why they reached through the
veil, through the veil of democracy, and they stripped the Shumer Amendment from
what it was to what it became. And what it became was a former
shell of itself. And it basically continues for at least another year. The
people who have enacted the secrecy on us to continue to dictate whether those secrets
come out or not. So again I differ with you a little bit,
And then I am to the point now where I hold the people responsible for
how fast we're going to know the truth. I'm not even putting the onus
on the government anymore. I'm like, we have to get more interested,
believe it or not. There's still a lot of people who aren't interested,
who don't believe, and it's in the news, but there's still a lot
of people who are turning their heads away from it. They can't take it,
they just can't accept it. We're still there are and so until we
cross that threshold of non belief, uh, we're always going to be like
in this tug of war, tug of war world, give me more information,
giving, give me more information government. But I don't want to ask
the government for information anymore. I just want us as human beings to do
our personal work so that we can finally know the truth. And many of
us are not doing our personal spiritual work. It's obvious why would the aliens
land when look what we're doing, Look what we're doing, Why would they
land? They It's it's as as when Timbershet came on the show, Congressman
Timbershet Uh, he said that the reason they haven't landed in Washington, DC
is because there's no signs of intelligent life there. And that that was I
thought, I was. I could not stop laughing about that. U.
But well, there's no signs of kind life. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
And and uh, I just you know, for for people like you,
it's it's you already kind of you don't really need the government to disclose
that information because you know, you have a you have a confirmation that made
I don't you You have been able to look this phenomena in the eyes.
Literally, So some of us, you know, where where going off of
experiences like yours, notions you know, because I've seen something. I have
seen craft, but no beings, and you know, I I know that
they're piloted. It's just it. And I know we're not alone. And
and I am deducing my own, you know, conclusions from the experiences like
yours that I hear. I truly there's something going on on this planet and
it's otherworldly in nature. Do you think that there, I mean ancient ancient
cultures talked about it. Do you think that there are multiple species that maybe
don't have the same vision for humanity? H Are you talking about like evil
beings that want to destroy us? Maybe? Not evil, but because because
because we could see, I mean, the boot that steps on the ant
by accident, right, shows no remorse. It was it was in my
path. God, indifference can be seen as neglect or negative, but I
so maybe that's indifferent. Yes, that's a good way to put it.
And that's an excellent point, which is what I felt when I looked at
that gray and there was nothing coming. So I felt indifferent. And that
was really scary because as human beings, that indifference we that is scary.
Right. It could very well be that there are a variety of beings that
are off planet and on planet. And if you listen to David Grush in
the congressional hearings, they asked him why he caused the beings not NHA's non
human intelligence instead of ets, and he says, because it's very possible that
these beings live on Earth in another dimension. They're not really off Earth,
they're on Earth, but we can't see them because they are in other dimensions
on Earth, which is both It could be that and it could literally be
beings from another planet or star system or galaxy, right, And that I
think that that's that's a fascinating notion. In itself. To think that not
only could civilizations be contacting us from our you know, our own known galaxy,
but from other dimensions. I mean that adds a whole, a literal,
It adds layers to the onion that we didn't even think we are truly.
I mean it's science fiction talk, right that that I mean that that
that's borderline science fiction. And if if you know a lot of people when
they see UFOs, they see them kind of phase out of reality, well
that would make make a lot of sense. Then if that's what they were
doing, is they're literally leaving this reality, they're jumping into you know,
into the ether and then into another dimension, well that would make sense,
and it would it would make total sense. And do you think that you
potentially bend in another dimension? You're you're because you know, we exist more
than this and there's there's aspects to us that are existing in the other dimensions.
As we talk in the other dimensions. Can you elaborate on that,
because I don't quite, But we're more than just this or energy, and
the energy just keeps going and going and going and going. There's no end,
and so you exist, we're fractals, we exist eternally, and so
we just keep existing through all the dimensions and all that there is. And
so this, this is right here, this SEV is just a mere sliver
of all that I am and so and so there are aspects of me that
exist in the other dimensions. For instance, when you meditate or when you
do astra travel, you go places, you meet beings. That's not you
sitting on the couch. That's an aspect of you that exists in the other
dimensions. Having an experience that you can focus on and cautiously be aware of.
Everyone could do that with practice very much. And that's you know,
I did this. So yesterday I got to do a sound bath. Oh
I love that. Yeah, I don't know if I have never experienced something
like that before. And it was I mean I went somewhere like and even
the the proctor, like the person doing it. I was the only one
in the room, right, it was a you know private what wow.
Yeah. When I came out of the she said, I like rose up,
like I was jolting back into my body. And you know, she
could tell that I was under super deeply because of how just still my hands
and feet were, but she could see them eyes were moving out of like
a thousand miles per second under the eyelids being shut. She could see that
they were moving and she knew that I had got so she literally like she
made me take steps, like breath work to get to a standing position because
she's like, I haven't seen someone really go under like that in a long
time. And I was, you know, I've been practicing meditation. I've
been trying, you know, doing it a lot frequently. And I think
it the vibrations and the resident the frequencies, and I think it just allowed
me to finally tune in because that was the first time an meditative experience brought
me to somewhere drugs have brought me before. Yeah, that's great, like
on your own. And that was like I woke up with a clogged nose,
I couldn't speak right, Like. It was a very weird experience and
I highly recommend it. It was one of the coolest things I've ever done.
And yeah, I do you do you think that you're you're you talked
about psychic abilities? Do you think that we all are innately born with these
abilities to remote view and other other capabilities just that they need to be unlocked
well, we just have to I teach people how to strengthen their psychic abilities.
And the first thing is just admitting that you have them. Some people
don't even know that they have them. And then the second step is a
determination to practice. That's really all it is, because those are our multidimensional
sensors, interdimensional sensors that are working, and if we can use them,
we get wonderful advice from the dimensions particular to us. Better than any therapist
you can go to that really helps you guide you as you maneuver through the
the human experience, which is not easy, right, And people may act
like that sounds crazy, but I mean some of the greatest minds in all
of human history, the Nikola Tesla's, the Einsteins, the the da Vincies,
they all have said that they were channeling something else, that the information
wasn't necessarily theirs, but it was given to them in a way. Yes.
Actually, when the these two light beings came into my living room one
afternoon when I was wide awake, uh, and they sat down and there
was there were gorgeous I'm sorry, a light being sat down. Yeah,
how does that work? I don't know, but they were like on the
couch, and they're like tall, but they looked like they were sitting down
because I was sitting on the couch. So I guess they figured, let's
just position ourselves across from her, okay, and so they just shortened themselves,
but they were on the couch. Hold on, I sorry, I
don't mean to cut you off. That sound rude there. So what do
these things look like? They're light? Are they sticks of light? Are
they? Do they have form in any sense? Or is it just a
ball? I actually put together a graphic to try and explain the best of
what I could, but I don't have it. Uh, they're light beings
and so there were I couldn't draw them if I wanted to, really,
because they're constantly undulating, and they were made up of these ribbons of kaleidoscope
light there that was constantly moving, and it was blues and silvers, and
every now and then they'd be like this flash of spring green right here,
and so I couldn't believe my eyes and I'm blinking my eyes, and I
actually took a picture. They did not come out in the picture. I
have the picture. And then they poured onto me this intense feeling of love
unlike anything I've ever felt in my life, and I describe it as more
intense than the love your mother gives you. Try and imagine that. And
then the first thing they said to me was when you look into our eyes,
you look into yours. And that's how the conversation started. Then they
gave me a lot of information and I took notes. I have the notes
as they were talking to me. And one of the things they told me
about was Tesla and Disney and Schakowski. And they said that these three men
were connected and they were indeed channeling, and that Disney and Tesla met and
that when you listen into Chackowski music, and these three men happen to be
my most favorite men since I was a little girl, and I loved Tchaikowski.
And they said, when you listen to Tchackoski music, that's an activator,
like a DNA activator, okay, activator. And so it's not by
accident that one of Disney's most famous movies, Fantasia, is filled with Chakski
music, because Disney and Fantasia is not a cartoon. It's an activator.
That's very interesting that I mean, which is my favorite Disney cartoon when I
was little. I still love it. It's not a cartoon though, And
there's I mean, there's other to the flip side. Let's go to the
alternate side, right, because then you have people like Alistair Crowley and l
Rod the Hubbard and them, and they're channeling, but they're also they're channeling
something that's dark, like you know, you know, the rituals. It's
all your perspective. Because information comes in a variety of different frequencies. There's
low vibe info, which we would call dark info, and high vibe info,
which we may call spiritual information. Or right, well, now,
now if you step back with me for a second and look in on what
we just talked about. You talked about the light beings looking into their eyes,
feeling more love than even your mother could give. That's straight out of
the Bible, right angel talk. Yeah, and then Alistair Crowley, l
Ron Hobbery, what they're doing is straight demon doc right, the rituals they
were performing. So again you have to ask yourself the question. I hate
to sound like I'm working on ancient aliens. You gotta ask yourself, are
we talking about the same thing? Angels and demons, extraterrestrials, and non
human intelligence. It's it's I just there's gotta be a connection. In my
mind. I just there's got to be. It's just it's too too close.
And I think these ancient texts weren't just stories. And I think scientists
we need to not we because I'm not a scientist, but I think science
needs to get a little bit more on board with taking theologists more seriously,
and theologists need to work with scientists more seriously. And I think together that's
a singularity, the aha moment that the whole world has. Yeah, but
we have problems with our researchers and scientists in America and that once they have
a theory, they they hate to disprove it, even if it's obviously wrong.
There's some ego in our scientific and research community here in the United States
that really sets us back. It's a shame. It's very, very very
blatant that there is. Uh it's like a clique and and they're all they're
all fighting about papers that get read by like seven people, and most of
them are their class. Uh uh, their their students and their family.
And it's like, I just don't I don't get the click nature of of
the academia, because you know, there's like even NASA talked about it right
in their in their content in their press conference. How it wasn't the UFO
community that was given them crap, it was other scientists that were harassing them.
Mm hmm. So I mean, I mean, that's just that's disgraceful,
and that's that's a problem from the look at it like a pyramid,
that's a problem at the top that is going to capsize. It's gonna it's
that's gonna that's the problem that it's going to trickle down. Is if this
is the dark Ages when we were completely unknowing we did not know the truth.
One day, when we know the truth that we're part of a galactic
community, and actually right now where the troublemakers in our galactic community. That's
why they're giving coming and trying to help us. And it's easier really to
change a collective through each individual, as each individual changes, than the collective
changes. That's why there are millions of people having et contact. Why don't
you think that if I mean, if they have the ability to do the
things that they do, why not why why not make like everyone goes to
bed tonight, whatever tonight is. You know in Australia, obviously there's time
zones and stuff, you know, but everyone goes to bed and they all
have the same dream. Why not why not do something like that that like
or why not be abducting presidents and being like, hey, we need to
have a talk. There are many presidents who have seen UFOs see me,
yes, and maybe they're at and not admitting it. We don't know yet.
You know what, You're right, you got me there, you got
me, Seth, you got me there. You know what, I will
admit that you got me. You know it's was it Japan's Prime minister's wife,
well Japan? Well in Asia there's a high level official whose wife claims
that she was on board. Oh no, get out of here. Mm
hmmm. See that's what I'm talking about with like these people that have everything
to lose when they start speaking up. Yeah, that's when people pay attention
and people famous have everything to lose. I no, I understand that,
but hopefully you understand h that was a note derogatory and the respect and the
yes, the notoriety. Yeah, I can also right out the window if
that's important to you right. So like if say tomorrow, like Miley Cyrus
was like, or Kim Kardashian was like I was abducted, there would be
an up like uproar. There would be an uproar, you know, of
people calling they're crazy. But then like a bunch of people that would be
like, wait a second, this is real all because it's Kim Kardashian and
not so f and that's sad. It's sad. Well it's it's okay,
it's funny. It's it's funny because it's Uh. I forgot what show.
It was a podcast, but they were saying, like, if if a
UFO landed on like the the the the three, the highway in California,
I can't remember what name of it. The name of it is the five,
Uh the yeah, the if it if it landed on the five,
the the helicopters, they'd show up and then they'd get a couple of shots,
and then an hour after that they'd they'd move. You know, UFO
lands you know, UH blocks highway, UH traffic backed up, UH civilians
in rage. Next on, next up, Kim Kardashian wears Prada to insert
event here, So like that's how I'm afraid that that's really a thing that
would happen, is that we would just be like, Okay, cool.
How I feel like we are right now because there's so much proof and evidence
out there, yet people just don't want to go there, like the things
that David Grush said. But really, when I talk to people out in
the society, no one's really like even talking about it. I'm like,
how could you not talk about what that man just said? Well, I
am doing a video. It's funny that you bring that up. I'm doing
a video where I go to Boston. I live in I live in Boston,
so I'm in the city and I went downtown and you know, it's
holiday season, so there's a lot of people downtown shopping, and I did
like the YouTuber thing, and I pulled people like I literally pull I'm pulling
people aside and asking do they know who David Crush David Crush is, do
they know what he's saying? Do they know what's happening in government? And
that UFOs are are are not only in the docket, but non human intelligence
was mentioned twenty one times in an amendment in our National Defense Authorization Act of
fiscal year twenty twenty four, like questions like that, and I'm sad to
report this in advance. Ninety five percent of people don't know what is going
on. Yeah, nope, nope, but they do know what colone they're
going to get in Macy's. Yeah, this is gonna be slow. This
is gonna be slow because the fear is so prevalent on our planet. It's
really probably the most prevalent energy that there is, and as long as that
exists, it's gonna be It's gonna take a long time if we continue to
allow fear to rule us. Do you think fear is keeping us back?
Yeah? Uh huh. That is an interesting notion because we know, like
what happened with me when I had my existential crisis. I'm like, what
I'm really talking to an alien? Like who am I? And what are
we now? If we go through that, if we as a society have
an existential crisis at the same time, that is not good. No,
at we could starve, if we could like die, I mean all kinds
of things could happen. Yeah, And oh my god, I'm I am
so glad that you just said that, because now that could be included in
my film because uh, you know, the film centers around that, uh
and and that this notions. So maybe I'll have to make a stop up
in Montreal and talk to you. But h or, I was gonna tell
you're not in Montreal anymore. You're in North Carolina. Actually you're in the
same state as Mario Woods, and I am going to be down there anyway.
So beautiful, So we'll talk about that. But you're absolutely right now.
Kevin Day and I we spoke. He was the first interview I did
on Total Disclosure, and he had said to me, he shook me to
my core when he said that that day on that ship in two thousand and
four, when the Knimits saw the tic tack. He had been seeing them
for days, but once they vectored Commander Favor's flight, they had an actual
v v I D visual ID identification. His his worldview literally halted, and
then he was literally laughed into retirement. In the next couple of years because
of the event. People were making fun of him. He was the crazy
UFO guy because he was, you know, raising his hands and meeting and
saying, you know, we have a safety of flight issue here, like
you know, uh, there's these things out there. He basically got laughed
into retirement and then his life just boom. He lost his wife is is
he began drinking heavily. This is the same story that Mario Woods has after
being a ducted on a base with nuclear missiles. So I mean it's this
is you're absolutely what if we all had that? And one, that's what
a catastrophic disclosure looks like is when everybody in the world has an existential crisis
at the same time we're trying to avoid that. Yes we are. And
so the catastrophic disclosure has been a word that's being thrown around a lot right
now. And at this point I do think something. I personally think something
might happen before the truth comes out, and that is this false alien flag
so that they're that they're going to create between us and them the others,
which is gonna be totally so the the the the doctor Greer kind of Werner
von Braun last card to play. Yes, yes, that kind of scenario,
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. How do you think
they'd pull such a feet off? Well, I had an experience where I
had a friend come spend the night with me and we both had an experience
that night, and part of the experience was her in the guest room and
she woke up and she looked out the window and it looked over the water,
and she sees in the sky Jesus Christ, and she hears in her
head, we can do this. See that, we can do that.
It looks real, doesn't it. And we can do that. We can
put anything in the sky hologram, holograph and fool you into thinking it's real.
Now at the same time, I'm having an experience in my bedroom where
she came into my bedroom. She got into my bed and I said,
what's the matter, and she said, I'm And then at that very moment,
I felt at presence at the foot of my bed, and it was
the hat man or the men in black. It was this astral black figure.
It was blacker than the darkness of the room. It was tall,
it had like the outline of a fedora had in a suit. And as
soon as I looked at it and recognized it, energy came out of it
into me, into my chest, and it felt like there were tentacles,
and it felt like it was just trying to pull me out of me,
trying to pull the essence of me just right out of me, like it
almost like wanted to own me. And I could feel like this tug of
war in my chest, and I was scared. Oh my god, I
was so scared because I could not lose this battle, because that being was
a low VI being, and I experienced enough with the supernatural to know that
we're always in control. So I had this energetic battle with this being,
and I kept insisting, you will not win, you will not win.
You have to go. I'm gonna fight you. I'm going to fight you.
You will not win. Finally it gave up, and it felt like
I fought for my life, and then I fell asleep. So the next
morning I wake up and I said to my girlfriend, did anything weird happened
to you last night? And she goes, oh, yeah, yeah it.
She told me about the Jesus Christ that she saw. And then I
told her, well, yeah, then you came into my bedroom and you
told me you were scared. She goes, I never came into your bedroom.
I go, yeah you did. I was wide awake. She goes,
no, I never came in. I'm like okay. So we both
decided we were just not going to talk about it anymore. Which was my
oldmo. Just ignore, ignore, ignore us must have been a cool dream.
We knew it wasn't. But I do believe that that man in black
was attached to her. It's a low vie being. And what happened was
my friend all of a sudden, she was a spiritual teacher. All of
a sudden she got really caught up in QAnon ah babies and all that,
and that she went full Alex Jones. Huh. I don't know if she
was listening to him, but anyway, she was there, she was,
She was definitely you align with when you are focused there, you align with
beings who live in that dimension, in that low frequency dimension. So that
entity was hers, but it was messing with me. It's my house.
Wherever we go, we take our beings with us. Well yeah, well
I guess the figure let me see if I have a chance with sev and
said, I said, I have an opportunity. It said I have an
opportunity here to grab a real experiencer. And that was a government. Because
I really wonder, are these men in blacks, these astral men and blacks
that I call them, can our government enter our consciousness? Have they figured
out that they can send like this entity that actually taps into our consciousness and
plays with our minds? Can our government do this? Yeah? Maybe what
if it's like an avatar, you know what if you know, like like
uh, I hate to say that, but and an avatar of like an
astral form and and I know that sounds crazy, but I mean we look
at you know, yeah, you look at this combine artificial you know,
artificial intelligence is already on the market, like scary. Imagine what they have
behind closed doors, and then pair that with the ability to three D print
and potentially three D print organic material. Now we're talking yeah, some some
some you know, ability to create life right essentially, especially if they've cracked
that you know, general art general non or general artificial intelligence. And I
think they have and and they're not telling us, And that is a very
big problem why leaders want them to halt the AI thing in general. But
all of a sudden, we start getting to a place where these things aren't
so crazy anymore. Right, They're just not science. They become science fact.
And I think with some even doctor Greer's disclosure two point zero, they
talked about, uh, these direct energy weapons, Now, could could that
be a result you know, when people think of a weapon, they think
of something like something like a gun that shoots you, right, or a
knife that stabs you. But what if this isn't like a weapon like that?
What if this is a weapon of the mind, right, and that's
what they're using. Yeah, they've been engaged in site psychological or in cy
warfare for decades. Uh, and they could be very well advanced in that
playground of consciousness, right, which is why that they're constantly probably being warned,
you know, to not play around with it and then uh, you
know, bad things happen from there. But uh, I just it blows
me away that the naivety of humanity to this fact, because I mean,
if that false log operation does get kicked off, I would say that that
happens the next five six years. If it's gonna happen, it's happening soon,
because they're gonna they're either gonna attend to, like to say, China
makes a move on Taiwan and they want to stop World War three. They
may actually think that giving us a space battle to win will unite us,
and that might be something they try. Yeah, and then do you think
that, I mean, but do you think that it could possibly unite us
the the just the information alone that we're not alone. Do you think that
could unite us as a species. I don't think Until the individual human transforms
into a kind of being, nothing's going to change. Okay, okay.
So that's the crux of everything is that we feel out of control. And
when you feel out of control, you get angry, you get mad,
you get victimized, you want to hurt other people, you get jealous.
We feel out of control. And why are we out of control? Because
we're lied to you constantly, constantly about our power to create and manifest our
reality, re lied to about our origin, about our ancestry, will lie
to about everything, every single solitary thing you can imagine. And intuitively,
we know this, and we're getting tired. We are as a as a
public, growing more and more, uh non intolerant of this because who gave
and I parted my language here, but who gave the government the right to
fucking take reality and put a trademark on it like they own it, right,
it's a good way to put it. Like they are creating. Uh
what maybe one man, two men in the entire planet are creating our reality
based on their egotistical needs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that is
that is something that not only the world, but the universe can no longer
stand for, it seems. And that's right, You're absolutely right, because
just like we radiate energy, Earth radiates energy, and the energy that she's
radiating is not very positive. It's not a high vibe that that energy radiates
into the galaxies. Everyone's feeling it, and that's why they're coming and they're
giving us these messages of love and hope, and they're teaching us because we're
affecting their lives too. We're the like I said, they're troublemakers and we
need to be controlled. Right, So it's like they're it's almost their obligation,
right. It's maybe it's not even that they feel that they that they
necessarily care to step in, it's that they need to. Yeah, we're
just like dad was hurting, you would help or if yeah, or if
you know you brother was convicted of a serious crime, right, it's you
you still you can't stop loving that person because he's your brother, right,
but just you know, he did something terrible and you only hope that he
can learn from his sins and and potentially become a better person be you know.
Unfortunately for him it's gonna be in the incarceration system. And for us,
uh, it seems that we've been trapped on planet Earth for the time
being because they don't want us out there yet, not not in body,
not not in physical form at least. So uh, sef You've been absolutely
so so fun to talk to, and I really I would love to have
you back on the show as as as often and frequently as possible. I
would love to talk further about uh, definitely including you uh in the in
the documentary and uh working so people. So you have planets dot com,
do you have Do you have Twitter or anything like that, Instagram, sep
Talk, Facebook, scept Talk, YouTube, Alien Spirit. I have videos
on there. I actually created this three part series of guided meditations with my
voice and high vibe music and I also talk about raising your frequency and I
help you connect to other worldly beings and people are connecting. Well, that's
awesome because I think you have a great voice for it. I yeah,
but I'll definitely I have a on the channel. I have a playlist for
for the public and it's guided meditations and I'll add yours in there. Your
your series because I think, yeah, I think that's yeah. I like
I just you know how YouTube every year they give you like this little My
number one video was the one uh was it had a channel? Yeah?
Yeah, that's a that's amazing And and I can be you know, I
am a testament. Like there have been multiple times where I've done a guided
meditation where I've I like I at the end, I get so nervous that
I pull myself out of it before I can actually yeah, you know,
get connected. But I feel it coming. Yeah, I pulled myself out,
Yeah, on purpose, because I don't know if a lode it's like
a little rush. Yeah, it's it's, it's there's it's weird. It
is it is. It's it's you like letting go of your physical body is
what I'm pretty sure is happening. And at that moment, your focus is
changing. Yeah right, agreed, Agreed, And it it's me a little
bit. And I pulled myself and I pulled multiple times where I pulled myself
out and been like, ah, like so upset about it because but then,
like I said, yesterday's sound bath, it really allowed me to just
let go to just because there is there's so much go. You know,
there's the vibrational frequencies and noise, and you know, you can really kind
of For me, I'm always going, My mind is always racing, and
this allowed me to really calm. Yeah, and look what happened. You
had almost like what an epiphany? Maybe literally calm. That's why meditation is
important. It's not about making your mind blank or still. That's what medication
is for, and that's why a lot of people do it because they can't
make their mind blink. I don't think I can make my mind blank.
Yeah, I don't mind blank anyway, That's not why I meditate. I
want to see things. I want to feel things, I want to hear
things. I want to go places. I want to learn. I wanna
Yeah I had that. Yeah, I absolutely agree blanking your mind. I
mean that that's just going to sleep. And even then they take you on
a journey. Yeah, even your body gives you the benefit of bringing you
to places when you blank it. Right, So, I mean, come
on, let's get real here, Sev. You've been amazing. This has
been such a fun talk. Uh So people follow her on YouTube, on
Instagram, on Amazon, and yeah, I was gonna ask about that,
so they can get that on Amazon, and I'm sure you know your local
bookstores can order it, or if you're like a buy a Barnes and Noble,
maybe they have it as well. Is it still in print? It
in some bookstores, it's in print, but the easiest place to get it
is Amazon. Okay, okay, great, Well, I'll include all those
limps links in the description below for everybody, And I want to thank everyone
for taking the time out of your day to sit here and listen to uh,
Seve and I have this discussion. You guys are the lifeblood of the
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