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Take all the clips that you want, remix them, and antagnium the
person with the best remix or clip. I will send a gift card for
Christmas. So challenges on for that one. So I can't wait to get
into this episode. Today we have the creator of Energetic NLP art. Guys,
how are we art? I'm great, really excited to be talking to
you. Yeah, I'm really I'm happy we could do this right before the
holiday. For anyone who's listening, you know you're probably listening. In January.
We're recording this episode What's Today's Jesus Friday, December twenty second, So
again, as a Christmas gift, anyone with the best clip remix version of
today's episode, we'll get a twenty five dollars Amazon gift card. So art,
we got to get some clips for them. So I want to start
off by asking this. I want to start off what put you in that
chair, sitting talking to me and being interested in this object? And all
of the the fields that you you know that you you reach into, because
when we find ourselves in the UFO field, it's not just the UFO field
we're in, We're in the paranormal, the you know, dimensional, it's
a phenomena rather than the phenomena. So what put you in that seat?
And you know what got you interested? Well? And I wanted to say
to everybody, I'm more in the paranormal, though I like to say it's
normal. The paranormal is normal, but the paranormal energetic, spiritual side of
it. And dabbled a bit in the UFO side of it, and I
think they very much inter relate. So what put me here is, since
I was really young, I always had like two big interests. Well,
my father is one of the early mainframe computer guys, and when most people
didn't know what the computer was and right, so I said a part of
me that wanted to be a scientist, and you know, and it was
very interested in all of that. But I also had the equally strong part
of me that was interested in the powers of the unconscious mind, the mystical
science fiction. I just knew all of that was real. I knew that
aliens must be real. But my focus was more on the powers of an
unconscious mind and esp telepathy things like that. But that whole area was very
attractive to me, and I actually spent eleven years managing a research lab for
the University of California Medical School in San Francisco. So I have a strong
logical, scientific part, but I also have a very strong part of me
that knows that the real progress, if you will, is when you go
beyond logic and you tap into something else, right, right, And if
I wasn't mistaken, science is about going against the grain. Right, So
you know the bleeding edge, right, taking chances just because you can't see
it right. And then that's what I like about you is that you do
have that scientific background and the basis right, So you're you're a strong proponent
I assume of the scientific method, but you also know that some of these
events, aka the paranormal, they're not just repeatable. So whereas you see
the world as black and white, you can also leave it and see the
gray, see the stuff that isn't in front of us tangibly and that you
can grab, which makes you a very rare individual. Well, thank you.
And the limitation with science is that it's done by human beings. So
when theory, science is about you have theories and you try to have evidence
that supports them or find evidence that disputes them, and that theyre always remain
a theory. So we still talk about the theory of relativity, even though
since Einstein came up with it, everything you know, it's chased on it.
Yeah, yeah, I was still you know, and all the research
supports it, but it was still called the theory of relativity. But scientists,
you know, like everybody else, we get attached to our ideas I
remember hearing really great guy in neuro physiologists professor, and he was talking about
you know, years ago they would say, like with your brain after a
certain age, things you know couldn't change. You know, a section of
your brain did what it did and that couldn't change. And he goes,
now we know that it's different. He goes, I taught students for twenty
years now something I know now isn't true. But everybody else scientists have that
desire to cling to what they believe. And the other problem is that a
lot of times people can use the fact that just because science can't measure something
doesn't mean it's not scientific. So cosmic rays were always scientific, whether people
knew they were there, whether people could explain it. People are still trying
to figure out gravity. Well, we all know it's real, you know,
And when they had no idea what it was, it didn't mean it
was unscientific exactly. You know. Einstein changed all the ideas of what gravity
is and it was still looking at it. So I always But the other
thing is there is actually a great deal of research supporting the idea of chakras
energy work. So I don't know, for some reason my camera's a little
wonky today, so it's all right, It's all right. It kind of
looks sort of mystical, like all this energy. I like it. Yeah,
yeah, it's kind of like but gosh, I lost my training thought.
Oh my god. It happens to me almost every day. So what
we're in makes me feel better. Yeah, exactly. Literally, you know,
it's funny. I gotta I gotta comment a written review on on Apple
that said it had me in quotations as uh oh, I lost my train
of thought. And then it was like host is disorganized. I'm like,
dude, you caught me one time. One time. Oh man. But
what we're talking about is the chakras. And then there's a tremendous evidence of
chakras. Yeah, the chakras and energy field and and it is now part
of science that our bodies put off energy fields, even put off light.
Very weak. But so the idea that we have energy fields in our body
now is science. And now they're they're not necessarily talking about the same energy
fields that I'm often talking about, but the idea now that we have invisible
energy fields, like in fact, I'll laugh with people sometimes they'll go,
I don't believe in invisible energies. I go, so, what's your relationship
to gravity? And never had a sunburn? It's not the visible light that
burns you, it's the invisible light. So exactly. So I just like
people to know, like, there is a lot of science supporting that remote
energy work is real, that we do have an energy system that all of
this, and that they'll do scientific experiments where somebody will be hooked up to
physiological measuring equipment and they won't know what's going on, and the person operating
equipment doesn't know what the true purposes experiment is, and they'll have a healer
start sending energy who's like in another room or far away, and when they
send the energy, the instruments respond, you know, and it can't be
psychological because you know, it's what's called a double blind experiment where neither the
person the subject or the operator knows what's going on. So I'm just saying,
I just like people to know there's a tremendous amount of evidence. The
problem is again that you know, you you do have some people that you
know, Often people go, oh, it's all conspiracy by the pharmaceutical companies,
and you know, I'm not saying there isn't some of that, but
mostly my experiences then it's very well meaning people who are just are ignorant,
you know, and they they're smart and they're educated, but there's you know,
there's right they again, they see the world as black and white.
There's no gray, there's For them, it's it's it's the medical books,
it's the what what science is? Is science? Right, it's and that's
that's what they don't they don't understand. And I think there's a huge disconnect
between the theologists, is that right, theologians and scientists. I think if
they could step back and work together, I think a lot of these problems
that we face, or problems that you know, plague us right as a
species moving forward, would disintegrate because, you know, for the things that
science can't answer, maybe this side can and vice versa. And I think
that we instead of and we see this all over the world, factionalism.
It's almost like they want the world divided, and it's who who who?
Who reached through the veil and stopped the Disclosure Act of twenty twenty three that
was set to be included in the NDA of twenty twenty four Fiscal year twenty
twenty four. Who is able to reach through the veil of democracy and gut
that bill. Yeah, corporations like lockeed Martin, that's who. And and
it's and you know that bill, that bill was huge, that was you
know arguably I know you said you don't you know, you're not keeping up
on a lot of it. But you know, there was this bill that
was called the Disclosure Act, and all you know, the Eminent Domain,
all the Presidential Review Board, which was based on the Kennedy Kennedy Review Board,
right, all of it taken out and and just stripped to its core.
And all of that happened because Mike Turner of Ohio, who just so
happens to get all of his or ninety percent of his political contributions by aerospace
companies. So we need to stop relying on the government to tell us that
that aliens or that the paranormal exists. So we need more people like you
and maybe me to talk to each other and get the word out and do
it on our own terms, because we can't wait for them. Yeah.
I think this, It's true about really everything. And you know it's human
nature for a lot of people that they don't want change, you know,
and you know, particularly if they're doing well, change is scary, and
you know, and people feel threatened very often. And what is good?
You know, when you're talking about scientists and theologians coming together, there's actually
a lot of scientists who are into woo woo and stuff, particularly physicists and
the Donnelly Lahma wrote a really interesting book called The Universe and the Single Atom.
The Universe and Single Atom, And since he was a little kid,
he's science and technology and in the book he's trying to bring together, of
course from a Buddhist perspective, but spirituality and science. And the point he
makes the book over and over is that he goes, we need to learn
from science and technology. Like he goes, I know now there isn't a
rabbit in the moon, and he goes, and they need to learn from
us. And so there are influential people in the world, scientists and people
in spirituality and religion. You know, there's more of them, I think,
who are going you know why? You know, It's like I teach
people to be healers and stuff, and sometimes they get really anti everything medical
and I'm going I was a researcher in medical school. As a corporate consultant,
I've had major pharmacical companies as my clients. I go, there's no
there doesn't need to be a war going on here. Some things that you
know, the medical doing are fantastic, same with the spiritual community something right,
like like penicillin is a great thing. Yeah, penicillin is a great
thing. Right. Uh, you know the medical community is they do it's
it's it's not the people coming up with the drugs, and it's not the
scientists. It's the people that market those drugs to hospitals and so on and
so forth. Those are the greedy ones. It's not the people making the
cure to cancer that gets you know, thrown in a safe somewhere because it's
more profitable. It's it's not And I want to talk to you about that.
Do you think that there is scores for major disease that yeah? I
mean you talk about the medical community as being something of a good hearted,
good natured beast, but again we have these people at the top that are
just you know, greedy monsters. Do you think that there is potentially cares
to these you know, major diseases that are being withheld from the public because
cancer, I mean, cancer is very profitable for for the pharmaceutical industry.
Well, let me answer that from a few different perspectives. And and one,
some of the people very high I've worked, I've had clients, were
very high up in this company. And some of them are stellarly nice people
and some of them are greedy jerks, you know, right, So even
at the high levels, there's a mix. There's a couple of things.
So one is that you know, it is a capitalist system and most Americans
don't want to pay the taxes to develop it from the you know, so
like you know, researchers, we were scrambling all the time to get money
and grants, you know. So on one hand, the public, they
want their drugs, but they don't want to pay for it. So it's
it's left in the hands of so much of it of companies that have to
make a profit. And and some of them are you know, are are
pretty high integrity. Some of them are not. So I'm just saying,
so we have that we have. You know, I'll hear people go,
well, there's these natural cures, and why aren't they investigating that? And
again, well, if you're a pharmaceutical company and it's something that you can't
patent, you know that you're not It's the old it's the old adage,
right with Tesla and Franklin. If I can't put a meter on it,
you know, JP Morgan Chase said, if I can't put a meter on
it, it's no it's no use to me. Yeah, So I mean
part of it, I think the public has to take responsibility. And if
we demanded and said, hey, I'll pay more taxes, you know,
to support medical research, things would would change. So, I mean,
I think there's a lot of levels of responsibility. And there are people that
definitely hide facts and distort facts and you know, and all of that.
So all of those are going on. Whether they're hiding cancer cures, you
know, I wouldn't know, you know, I don't have any way to
know other than intuitively, and I haven't looked at it any more than anybody
else. But there's definitely their model is, you know, the perfect drug
to them is one you have to keep taking. Yeah, absolutely, they
aim for that. So how much of it is are they hiding things?
How much of it is just it's something they can't patent, so they're not
going to investigate it, and how much of it is you know, deliberate
obstruction. I think all three of those go on. And it's kind of
like when somebody goes, well, they're charging all this money for a pill
and it costom thirty cents to make it. I'll go, well, it
didn't take custom thirty cents to develop it. But at the same time,
then we have dug some drugs that are just enormously expensive. So I think
it's a very complex system, and I think smart people. Yeah, and
part of it, yeah, I mean, look at all the fight over
healthcare in the US, you know, So I mean part of it is
I think all of us can take back our power and go, I'm willing
to pay so everybody can have medical care. I mean I am, I
am as well, but lots of people aren't, you know. You know,
I think it's important to look at the you know, conspiracies and things
happening at that level and mindsets, and also what do we have power over.
And there are things that if people were demanding more money going to nationally,
you know, to research like where I worked, more would happen,
you know, and that would investigate free drugs, you know, natural drugs
and some and and it does go on. It's just hard to get the
funding. Yeah, and I can I that makes a lot of sense when
you put it that way. To jump all that. I do think it's
people who are greedy. I think it's people that are ignorant, and I
think that it's a system that needs to be reformed. Right. But I
do want to say because I spent years and years working with people in the
pharmacical industry, and most of them are great people, and they're on a
mission and they want to help, you know, Like I've worked with cancer
doctors and the ones I've worked with, I know wouldn't hide anything, you
know, because a lot of my mom died of cancer, my sister.
Yeah, so you know there a lot of them are on a mission.
Yeah. So I think it's like you talked about fractionalization, and I think
it's part of us. Let's not demonize each other, and let's look at
where is their mouthfeasance and where is their ignorance, and where is their systems
that need to be changed, and that we as a public, if we
demand the change, it'll happen. You know. Well, I agree,
I agree, because you can see that in UFOs right now, people are
pushing for transparency like no time before, and it is it is resulting in
an unprecedent did series of events that is going to change the world. That's
the way I'm that. That is my personal belief that in the next two
to three years the world would be a very very different place. What that
looks like, I do not know yet, but whatever, let's jump over
it some on that. I mean, it might not have surprised you,
but when they released those like navy you know images of UFOs and stuff,
and yeah, they were really you know that it was real and they couldn't
explain them. I'm flown away. It was like, Wow, I hadn't
seen that before. Where the government's going, these are real videos and we
can't explain them. Yeah, it was. It was an unprecedented moment.
I think that twenty seventeen article which December I believe it was December sixteenth.
It came out out online and then the following Sunday it was front page.
And uh that article was coupled with the To the Stars Academy. Uh,
well back then to the Stars Academy, the the launch of those three videos,
and I mean talk about setting the world on fire. I mean that
that was what a moment, What a moment, And honestly that's what brought
me out of the closet on this issue. So I think we owe a
lot, but I want to get into to your you teach people to heal.
I had I had a guest on doctor Kimberly McGeorge. She was on
last night, so I filmed with her last night, and she does similar
stuff. I would, uh, I guess talk to me about healing without
medicine. So this this more spiritual natural healing. What is the process and
are you pulling from somewhere? What is the connection to you know, UFOs
and you know other dimensions? Because I know there's got to be some tie
in somewhere for sure to other dimensions. And so let me give just a
little bit of a foundation. So I've created energetic NLP, and NLP stands
for neuro linguistic programming. Neur Linguistic programming is its own field. Energetic NLP
uses the neural linguistic programming, but it's a different field. And I've been
at NLP trainer since like nineteen eighty five, staid with all the developers,
But NLP was developed as a way to look at human change behavior differently.
So it started in the mid seventies and up to that time, psychologists for
the most part were into insight therapy, and the idea was, even know,
if you really examined your life, you know, taking years literally literally,
you know, they talk about five, ten years, and you know,
and what did your mom? You would do? What? You know,
you were bit by a dog, you know, whatever it was.
And the idea was the insight would change you. And the people who started
NLP went, well, we know, if therapist to get remarkable rapid results
with people, like deep life changing results, so what are they doing differently?
So they began to study them and NLP became the study. They people
change the definition now, but they used to call it. It's to study
of the nature of subjective experience nature subjective experience. So what they focused on
in NLP was how are you constructing your inner world? So maybe you have
low self esteem because your father beats you up when you're a kid, But
to have low self esteem when you're forty, you have to keep recreating it.
So an NLP that went, let's look at what in the moment creates
either are skills, abilities and what creates their problems. And they developed this
incredible system that can do really miraculous work. And for the people that had
never heard of it, they've heard of the most famous purpose in our field,
who's Tony Robbins. Now you know he has his own raw, raw
dominance way of doing things, which is his stuff, but the core of
his ability to transform people's lives comes from his training and NLP so an energetic
and LP that's a big part of what we do. But we also add
in spiritual principles healing, sorry transformative energy work, intuition development, including remote
energy work, which is one of my specialties and by the way, something
anybody can do. So what I teach people to do is it has elements
of NLP in it, but I open up their abilities that everybody has or
all natural abilities to work with Earth and universal energies, to work with the
bodies energies, chakras auras energy channels to transform people's lives, both mental,
emotional and physical healing. And I always have to do the caveat and particulrely
because I was a medical researcher that I'm not making medical claims that lots of
people who do this work get better. Not everybody does physically, so I
can't legally make claims. All I can say is my experience and experience of
my students and clients is that very often people have miraculous medical changes. But
it's a mixture of We both look at the mental components of it, like
what's going on in your internal reality, and we look at the energetic parts.
So let me give an example the mental parts when somebody has had like
a physical injury. Well, i'll back up one step. Part of what
they look at in NLP. What we look at is the coding system of
the unconscious mind. All of your thoughts need to be coded, and that
includes whether you believe it or dowbt, whether it makes you happy or sad.
There's an unconscious coding system that you can discover. And one of the
things that we code is time. So if you think of something that happened
five years ago, you know it's different than something that happened yesterday or something
you think will happen in the future, so that there's a it's both in
our mental imagery and then internal sensations and inner dialogue. We have ways that
we code time. So very often when somebody had a physical injury or an
operation, when they think about it, their mind keeps putting it in the
present. And when your mind keeps putting it in your present, your body
is fighting, fighting, not healing it. So I'll give you an example.
Years and years ago, I was giving a talk and this woman had
a big brace around her neck and she looked like really uncomfortable the whole time.
So when it was done, I went, you know, I really
appreciate you you're staying through this because obviously very uncomfortable, and she goes,
no, I loved it. I got a lot out of it, but
I just can't relax. And I go, well, what happened? And
she went, well, I got in a bicycle accident and I haven't been
able to relax ever since. And using NLP, I realized that when she
kept putting the bicycle accident in the present, so her body was in you
know, fight in flight. And I just taught her, I go,
well, here, let's put it in the past. And I taught her
how to do that, and she relaxed so quickly she literally started falling out
of her chair, and oh my God. Yeah, So that's a thing.
Sample like NLP has a lot of things about healing that are psychological,
your belief structures. So often healing gets blocked by different beliefs we have.
We I'll give an example of that. I never met this man in person,
and he was referred to me, and this is back in the nineties.
I think he was a doctor and he had some kind of weird form
of leukemia, like an unusual form of it, and he was you know,
could die, and he was in the hospital and we would I would
work on him both using the energy work in the NLP, and the next
day his doctors will be blown away because his tests would be different. Right
then they start getting bad again, and I'd work with him and we kept
cycling through this. So I started looking at, well, what's what's taking
it apart? And he had he hated being a doctor, and he he
hated being a doctor, and he had guilt because he cheated in medical school.
And he was probably still a good doctor, but but he felt guilty
about having The reason I said I think it was a good doctor is he
felt guilty about it. So you know, if he was really swying,
he wouldn't have felt guilty about it. And but he hated being a doctor
because he didn't, like you know, had to rush to be He couldn't
work with patience to where he really wanted to. And in his mind,
if he got better, he had to go back to being a doctor.
And he hated it so much that he me and literally this way you can
communicate the unconscious mind. His unconscious mind was telling him I would rather die
than go back to being a doctor. But I would talk but that we
could have dealt with. But consciously he keep going, but I'll need the
money, I'll have to go back to being a doctor. And I remember
going, what part of this don't you get? You know, It's like,
in order to get well, you have to let your unconscious mind you're
not going to go at least not be the kind of doctor you were.
And he wasn't ever ready to do that. So and so we would do
the wonderful healing work and it was so incredible to me because he'd have them
the next day. The medicals tess to be different. His doctors couldn't understand
it, but his belief system kept taking it apart. So from the NLP
angle, we look at belief systems and mental structures and how you put things
together, and lots of people have unconscious things about punishment and they're not worthy
or like him. If I get healthy, I'm going to have to do
something I don't want to do, or people aren't going to take care of
me anymore. But there's also the spiritual energetic aspect. So there's karma,
which karma is really different than most people think it is, and we come
back to that if you want. There's something called spiritual contracts, and those
are agreements that your soul or your spirit has made either from other lifetimes or
before you were born into this one or during it, and they're all changeable.
But if you don't change the contracts, that can undue healing. Then
people have tons of programming that's energetic. They came in through their parents and
their grandparents and the great grandparents. So from the spiritual aspect, we're looking
at karma. We're looking at also beliefs about spirituality and punishment and all kinds
of things and what's in beliefs about what's possible in healing. We look at
spiritual contracts, we look at all this energetic programming. So there's a lot
of clearing, but then there's activating their ability to both use their internal healing
resources and to hook into the infinite we're essentially infinite Earth and universal healing energies.
So we look at all of those components. Okay, so you're looking
at all these components and okay, yeah, all right, so you're you're
you're basically I mean, I understand it, all right, are because it
makes sense. Right, we look at like we look at placebo, even
just the placebo effect, right, and how it can change people's perception,
and you know, uh, it's very it's the mind. The mind is
uh, it's a computer, right, and and sometimes you have to reprogram
it. And it sounds like kind of like that's what you're doing, is
is trying to reprogram it to to stop bringing this uh tragic event. But
you know what could so this I find this parallel. Now, have you
ever worked with someone who's claimed to be an abductee? You know, I
no, I haven't because I think there could be enough to cut you off.
I'm very sorry, but I think I mean someone who's an abductee,
what they do is, you know, they they they I mean the ultimate
case of of keeping it at the forefront, right, like, like it
changes your whole belief structure that we're not alone and I just got taken and
if it's true again, I'm not like I'm not. I still grapple with
that idea of the abduction, but I don't know, maybe there could be
something there. But you talked about interdimensional aspects because you're you're, you're,
you're on the bleeding edge of what I can see as tapping into something like
the oneness or you like you called it the collective consciousness. Collective conscious Yeah,
Well, with the energies, there's all kinds of levels and types of
energies. So some are coming from other dimensions and other realities and uh,
and some are coming from definitely from a lot of the energies are coming from
consciousnesses. So whether that is or not, but a lot of the healing
energies are connected to consciousnesses or even groups of consciousnesses, and even the earth
itself. I used to think the idea of like, you know, they
picked guy the Earth's spirit. You know. I used to think, you
know, it's so funny when even when you get into the woo woo,
you know, something silly And I thought that was really you know, like
yeah, right. And one time, I don't know why, I projected
my consciousness deeper and deeper and deeper into the earth and then I connected with
the earth consciousness. I was like, it's real and I was shocked because
I was not expecting it to be there. And one things that was taught
and that you can connect to healing masters and beings and use their energies and
if you want to give you a good story about it, and you know
some of them I think are alien being. Well, let me complicate a
little more so the way I picked that I always tell people in my programs,
I tell people, make them swear a pledge, and the pledge is
not to believe anything I tell them. And I go, this is what
I think today. I made up termed beliefs to Jore, like soup to
Jore. These are my beliefs to Jore, and that my goal is always
to connect people to their own interwisdom, their own spiritual information. And I
when I tune into other dimensions and realities, it's beyond our normal human logic.
You know, we don't really have a way to understand it. So
we need to like concrete things which is well, one thing I can come
back to that. But the story. Yeah, the first time I ever
worked at Healing Masters, had a teacher who is phenomenal healer, I mean
a good friend of mine was supposed to have a hip operation and the sky
John Norman worked on him twice when remotely. He never needed the operation remotely.
So this can be done therough like a computer with it can it can
be done remotely, and and it can even be done if you want.
We can do a little energy work later and people when they watch the video
will be able to access it because okay, outside of time and space,
but it is John Norman. He told us one next time we meet,
I'm going to connect you to Healing Masters. And at the time, yeah,
I didn't know that I believed in that idea of like these beings that
would help us heal, even though I was already doing healings on people and
seeing miracles happen. You know, again not all the time, sometimes and
always mental emotional, spiritual healings and sometimes amazing physical healings. But but at
the time I thought Healing Masters, I don't know that I think that's real.
So psychologically I was going in very skeptically. I mean skeptical. I
mean I thought it'd be interesting, and I trusted John, but I just
wasn't sure I believed in this. And John tells us most people the old
fashioned ways the healing Masters hook into the back of your neck and run the
energy through you, and he goes, but that's the old fashioned way to
do it, and the healing energy, you're sending it to somebody else.
You don't necessarily want it run into your body because it's not what you need.
So he goes, I'm going to have the Healing Masters connect to your
hands so that you can just run the energy out your hands, either remotely
in person. So I'm thinking, so the whole setup is I'm focused on
my hands, right, and That's what I'm focused on. So we start
this group meditation to connect us to the Healing Masters, and all of a
sudden, I feel this whack on the back of my neck and it starts
hurting more and more. It finally went John, and he looks and he
gets his stern look and he goes in and the pain went away, and
he goes, that one was insisting on hooking into your neck. I'm getting
you a different one, and I went, oh, that's convincing. Whoa.
It blew my mind because I'm thinking because here I'm not looking at my
hands, looking at my hands, and he had told us we wouldn't have
anything on our neck, so you know, when you got a hit in
the neck, you're like, what is that? Yeah? And then like
literally he just read and the pain went away because that one was insisting on
looking into your neck. And I'm thinking, Okay, that's pretty convincing.
You're the scientist, that's pretty convincing. I yeah, I would have.
I would have a hard time not uh not just sitting right there and being
like, okay, all right, well okay, it's real. Let's go,
you know, and let's do this hundreds of people or thousands of people
healing masters, right, I want to ask you something. Yeah, when
you project your your consciousness and I can't even believe I'm saying this, these
words when you met when you met the Earth, Yeah, was she in
trouble? I didn't even go there. I don't personally think the Earth is
in trouble. I mean, the Earth's very big consciousness, and I'm not
saying that what we're doing isn't affecting it. But that consciousness is here before
us, it'll be here after us, you know, right, unless it's
a supernova. The Earth can actually handle a lot. So again, there's
like levels of beings, non physical beings, and some of them I think
are physical alien beings. Some of them are are in other dimensions of the
realities. O. There's uh, you know, the whole multiverse ideas,
some of the different versions of the universe, some you know, aren't physical
at all. But there's levels of beings, you know. Again my beliefs
to jure and a lot of people see it the same way. There's levels
of beings. So there's the earth itself consciousness, but there's other nature consciousnesses
and even individual trees have a you can learn to see it, you can
they have a spirit and energy. And people talk about elementals and devas and
they have different names for them. So they I think can struggle very definitely.
And the the Earth itself, my opinion is, and there's a split
on this. Some people see it the way I see it, some people
see it very differently. But I think the Earth is okay, you know,
it can handle what we can throw at it. A yeah, So
that's what I mean, I think, Yeah, I guess, I guess
I asked a question because you know, the the nuclear activity, Like I'm
just wondering if the Earth knows what's happening on the surface, Like is it
intelligent in that way? Like does it understand what we're doing up here?
Or is it something that's more of a vibration that the Earth gives out and
is like is it a different entity altogether? It's not one that is It's
very hard to talk about because I don't understand. My opinion. My belief
is sure, is it it is an entity? Okay, so it does
again there's this earth and entity, but there's other nature entities. Yeah.
You know, it's like, you know, we were a lot of us
are brought up in all the Hindus and stuff and thinks of all these gods
and stuff. You know, I'm how silly and primitive. And of course
in Western religions we have angels and classes of angels, you know, the
seraph and even talks about beings coming down and mating with humans. So I
don't know if you're aware of that, but yeah, yeah, no,
no, no, I'm absolutely aware of that. That because and that was
a part of the reason or in the biblical way, in the Biblical text,
that's why the flood happened, I believe, right, Uh no,
not to cleanse the earth of the mating between humans and the human women and
the angels. You well, I don't think that's in the Bible. I
mean, oh maybe I'm maybe I'm quoting ancient aliens. Now as the Bible,
I have no idea what it. What it definitely says in the Book
of Genesis is these sons of God came down and made it with human women.
But it talks about it created the heroes of old something like that,
and so the heroes of old being what the gods like, or as I
said, a lower lines. It's a couple of lines like Genesis twenty six
or something. Of course, of course it's of course it's vague like that,
right, Yeah, But I mean, the flood was supposed to be
to cleanse the world of human sin. You know, it's okay Bible.
But but but all I'm saying is that all over the world people talk about
different types of beings. So you got to wonder, why does everybody talk
about this, you know, in like saying in religions and folk tales and
stuff. So but I do believe the earth consciousness itself is fine, I
mean, and that it cares about us and you know, but that there
are other levels of non physical beings that people have always talked about. I
mean, you know, it gets confusing because you know, it gets mixed
up with fair you know, fairy tales and in the way people would conceive
of these things. But I mean, I one time I was in a
redwood forest north of San Francisco and I'm walking on this fallen redwood tree and
all of a sudden, I feel like I'm not seeing any bit of like
two hands hit me and knocked me off the tree. I think the only
time I ever experienced anything like that. It was just kind of like,
oh okay, hey, and I was with a friend of I won't believe
what just happened. I mean literally, it was like bam, knocked me
up and there was nothing there, you know that I could see right right,
And this is in the middle of the woods. Yeah, just just
with one friend and nobody else around. So I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Were you up against the tree like leaning on it? No, it was
a I don't know if it was completely dead yet, but it was a
fallen tree. Oh that's right, that's right, Okay, I'm walking on
it. And literally it was like Bam, I got knocked off. But
when you pushed you off, the tree gotcha. Yeah. I was like,
you know, you know, it wasn't like a lost balance as I
felt it. It was like just pam. And I don't know if it
was hostile to just getting my attention or what. But when you get a
tuned to energies, you know, again, people haven't known this for thousands
and thousands of years, that there's all these the freeze, the plants have
some level of consciousness, not like the earth, but there there's like a
spirit energy in each one of them, and you can tune in and realize
there's these beings existing on the earth that are nature beings of different kinds,
you know, And could could that be? Could could that be what we
mistake? As you know, different cultures have called it different things, but
we I mean anything from the little people to bigfoot. Right, these nature
beings that you know only exist in the wild. They're very secluded, YadA,
YadA. Could could that be? I mean, the paranormal seems to
like it seems to be wanting to get our attention. That's its goal,
get to like get our attention. That shove, right, it shoved you
off the off the tree. What is that saying? It's trying to get
your attention? Yeah, yeah, so you did at the time. Okay,
who's here with me? Because because I can't see you, but I
want to talk about you and your consciousness and and and how do you So
have you ever connected have you ever connected with what what normal people would call
an extraterrestrial? Have you ever you know, used your abilities to to you
know, talking to the Earth. I can assume only assume that you've tried,
you know, instead of going inward going outward? Have you? Yeah?
So I'm aware that. And it's interesting people that are very psychic off
when I'm teaching and stuff, they go, oh, you have a whole
crew working with you. You know. So one of the things I bring
over from NLP. One of things I liked about NLP, And this will
answer your question. Is it unlike traditional psychology? They were saying, you
know, we're not saying these things are absolutely true. They're models of human
behavior. There are ways to think about things, but they're not some absolute
truth. So I think when we're dealing with different types of beings, there's
ways that we understand them that aren't necessarily what they are. So let me
circle back to that. So I know that a lot of different beings work
with me, and people always go, well, do you know who they
are? And and I just go, what I've set up with my spirit
is that it only lets in the ones I'm supposed to work with, you
know, So you know, I kind of for me, I say,
logic, but but I will get to the aliens. And so I've had
a couple of experiences around aliens. So back in the eighties, a friend
of mine h and we're all on the energy work, and he went,
let's see if we can contact aliens. So we did do a meditation,
and I do believe I contacted the alien and we had a bit of a
conversation, if you will, I mean not in words. And I didn't
like this particular alien. This alien was kind of like a scientist in the
in the jungle in South America, like looking at the bugs and stuff.
And I even and I even said to this alien, I went, you
know, we're not bugs, and and it kind of was startled. You
know, right, it was a hostile, but it was just that we
were just something to observe. Okay, listen, I've been saying, and
this is what I don't Again. Second time I interrupted you. I didn't
mean to do that. I apologize, but I've been saying this, And
tell me if this rings true to this, to this being there is a
clear difference between being malevolent and indifferent, right, yeah, yes, yes,
so you know the military, right, they like to talk about this
as a threat. Again, that's how you get funding. Is it's the
scary alien, right, the scary alien that's gonna invade. But in most
cases, I feel like these things are indifferent. They just don't get in
our way. Just let us do what we're doing, right, get Yeah,
we're in you know you're here, We here, right, Just yeah,
now to keep your distance. Well, I love what you're saying,
and and I agree with the people who say that there's different kinds of aliens,
and some of them I think I want to help us, and others
are just like I said, just again, imp like biologists going to South
America and they're studying the bugs, you know, and they they might they
might even kind of love them in a way, but but they're not treating
him as like equals or something. You know, it's like there's something to
be studied. And this one that I connected to, yeah, he was
just they were just were after information. But yeah, but not hostile,
not anything, but just indifferent. You know, we were just some lower
life form, you know, right, you know, do you think that's
Do you think that's true that we are just because you said it to him
or her or what, I don't know whatever it means. Yeah, do
you think that? Because Neil deGrasse Tyson often is quoted as saying this,
why would aliens want to look at us? Why would We're not special?
We are not bugs? And I hate that analogy when people say, why
would aliens be be uh interested in us? We would be like bugs to
them. No, we're not. We created thermonuclear weapons. We're sitting here.
Last time I checked. Uh, there's not a planet that we can
find that has life like this on it. Right to this degree. We
manipulate our surroundings unlike any other creature. And it's just I hate that comparison.
So when you interacted these beings, most of the time they're looking to
help you said, do most of them see us as as at least maybe
not equals, But we're not twenty seven thousand rungs down from them, you
know, if you think of like like star Trek and stuff, when they
a few times when they go to a civilization and they get revealed and people
would think they were gods, and they go, we're not God's We're just
we're advanced, you know. But yeah, I mean, I think there's
different kinds of aliens. Well let me share another experience. So I believe
all of us are like you know, that we're all like embodiments of a
big, beautiful spiritual being. And it isn't confined to just you know,
so the bigger being that I am is not just our guys or you know
that can it can be doing lots of other things. And I was having
all this trouble with with one of my thumbs, and one of my students
was working on it, and all of a sudden, I'm looking at my
hand and it didn't look like a human hand anymore. It was and I
and I had this whole connection that some other aspect of me was this alien.
And he had he had huge problems with his hand. I mean,
it wasn't exactly like our hands, but it was a hand. I mean,
it was quite different. But but and I realized that part of what
was affecting my hand was I was connecting with his energy. It was like
a bleed. You know, we were part of the same bigger being.
And I just got all this information. And what was interesting is my student
was getting very simple also saw an alien hand and stuff. So you know,
it doesn't prove it's real, but it makes you wonder. So the
student saw that your hand looked like an alien hand, or let's be a
non human handy. We know, we both got the sense of this alien
hand. And what before either of us mentioned it, You know, here's
somebody. It's gotten incredibly good. I mean it was already incredibly good at
this point, so you know, whether it was a shared image. So
when you see things energetically, they're not all real. Some are are what
are called thought forms energy formations, and looking at back to that because it's
important for what we're talking about. But I got a really strong sense of
that that I was now connecting with this alien, that we were part of
the same bigger being. And it's somehow I was connecting with him enough that
what was going on with his hand was affecting mine. And that and and
like I said that my friend Jeff was getting it was seeing an alien hand
too, I mean I got more information about it. And and the I
mean even like that it was like deformed for him. And it was some
kind of race where if you weren't and he was definitely male and more like
kind of a sort of a warrior sort of a race or at least when
where you know that if you weren't physically whole, you were definitely inferior,
you know. And and just all this stuff was coming through so and you
know, I can't prove anything, I think it was real. Uh.
And and the fact that my friend also saw him alien hand and got this
whole sense of of of alien. So so those couple of experiences, but
both to me make me believe that and like say, energetically you connect with
different kinds of beings. What makes it confusing a bit too, is this
whole idea of thought forms, and it confuses a lot of psychics and energy
readers because a lot of them haven't been taught this. And a thought form
when there's a saying an energy work. That's energy flows where tension goes.
Energy flows where tension goes. So if you think of like an apple in
front of you, and you really really think about it, it can actually
create and like an energetic apple that somebody's psychic can see. And I stal
give you a funny example of that manifestation to a degree. Yeah, but
it's just energy. And a lot of what people think are demons and gods
and stuff are often just thought forms. So even when you're trening into real
being, often you see like a projection of what it wants you to see.
So you think about people all over the world when they'd have mystical experiences,
you know, they marry in one country, but in another country,
they'd see a Hindu saying, you know right, a very similar energy and
everything. So I believe a lot of times beings of different types project thought
forms and humans create them too. But I'll give you two examples of it.
I was going a healing on a woman once, and this was years
ago, and the Pope was visiting America and I start healing her and all
of a sudden, I'm watching CNN news clips of the Pope. I mean,
you know what, I'm thinking the hell's going on? So I finally
went, are you really into the Pope's visit? And she goes, oh,
yeah, I'm really into it. I'm watching CNN all the time.
I can't get enough of it. And I go, you've literally created all
these thought forms because she's so focused on them that the images were in her
energy field. Wow. And another example, some energy groups each people to
use little roses as symbols and you put them around you to do different things.
And a friend of mine and his wife had both studied that and they
were getting ready to get divorced, and this psychic goes, Oh, the
two of you must be really in love, because there's all these little roses
around you. So she was accurately seeing the thought forms, but she didn't
know what they meant. So so I think that some of these being so,
you know, one of the questions is how often are aliens here and
how often are they just projecting? M you know, And I think both
can be true. And when they're projecting, they're going to show us images
that we can deal with. Yeah, They're not going to send us scary,
you know, reptile some people's I think the people who claim like the
REPTI Tillian abductions. I think that they have what Gary Nolan's studying, and
they have a condition that it's not a condition, but it's like an extra
sensory percept. You know, they have the ability to see through the smoke
screen, right, and that is what is happening when they see the you
know, maybe the uglier creature instead of the nice looking alien, you know,
Nordic alien that you know, really wouldn't freak you out that much,
right because it's a blade air, blue eyed thing. Right. So you
brought up something and I kind of lost where I was going with it.
Now I'm gonna get another apple thing comment. He got what he was talking
about again. But do you think that I found it? Do you think
that abductions could possibly be happening on so you're not actually being taken from your
bed physically, but astrally, Yeah, I do. I do. It
would make total sense, yeah, you know. And whether or not there's
actual abductions, I don't know, but I do think a lot of things
could be happening on. Oh, I'm sorry, I don't worry about it.
Somebody around YouTube he didn't turn off his things. Yeah, I think
oh again, it's confusing because again you can see thought forms, you can
see things can happen energetically, you know, there can be that a travel
you know, as we all know, the universe is such a big place.
How many aliens can actually get here versus how many could project you know.
It's it's all fascinating questions, you know. And but the whole thought
form thing a lot of a lot of times when people see like images of
demons when I when I'll check it out, almost always their thought forms.
And if the thought forms you can dissolve, Yeah, so that would be
could that be considered There's a thing called god. I forget the name of
it, but it's like it's it's in the lure of of something where if
enough energy is focused or thought of, you create the actual thing. What
is that called? Well, it's a type of manifestation. But yeah,
there's a word for it. It's like a type a type a type of
It's like a type of monster that you would see and like like uh texts,
uh oh God, it's now it's aggravating me because I'm a huge supernatural
fan, and multiple times they had to deal with one of these things and
it was because you know a lot of people like, uh like slender Man.
Slender Man. So basically what it was the episode was was so you
know, slender Man went viral and so many people thought that slender Man existed
that it actually became a h a real thing because so many people, Oh,
your froze for me. Let me check if it's on my end.
Yeah, I know it was. It was on and I pros a marker.
Can you hear me? Yeah, now I can. All right,
I just created a marker, so I'll edit that out. Yeah you can't
see me. No, it's now it's starting to now again, maybe it's
on. It could be on my end. I'm doing something. They free
up memory, so let's oh, I know what I can do. No
need here, I'm gonna pause the recording. So yeah, in the show,
they basically create a create a creature because of so many people believing in
it. And what you're saying is that that that is real and and energetically
it's absolutely real and in it it's one of the reasons, like you say,
like a well, and it also can happen like when sometimes when people
are in trauma or die or something that have really intense energy and a lot
of what people think of as ghosts and stuff. And I'm not saying there
may not be real ghosts, but a lot of times they're just thought forms.
They're like images, and and they can seem alive and real, but
they're no more real than an interactive program or a movie. Uh. Part
of what that's important my work if something's a being, you know, if
if if somebody's being bothered by thought forms, I can just dissolve them.
If they're being bothered by a being, then you do something different. But
a lot. But but so with the whole reptilian thing, uh, And
I haven't looked at it, so I don't know. There's there's two ways
that could go. One is that people are seeing through the thought forms that
that are projections and and by the way, everybody does that to something,
We project how we want people to see us. And it can be that
people see them as reptilians because so many people have that that's in the collective
conscious right right right ways. And for me there's just so many things that
well when it gets into energy, like when people have about chakras, I
don't see them the way they're described in any of the systems I've learned.
I see them as multi dimensional and dynamic, and but they're not. They're
not like like lines coming out. Well that's a little different, but you're
like a lot of people talk at the chakras like like vortexas that come out
or oh okay. But in the East, a lot of the traditions say
that their chakras don't go out, they go up, and they're in a
central channel by your spine, and they go up. And the way I
always explain it, I don't know if you've ever heard the old blind men
and the elephant. It was a poem in a story. No, they
a long story short six blind men, I'll modernize it. Six blind people,
six partially sided people come upon an elephant, and they all touch a
different part of the elephant, and they get in an argument because one grabs
a leg and goes in elephants like a tree. Other one grabs the ear
and goes it's a giant leaf. And they get in a fight and they
leave. And the point of if they're all seeing different parts of something more
complex, right, they're they're they're not seeing the larger picture. They're only
seeing that they've only got their experience to work with. And again that's actually
thank you for that, because that's a great analogy for what I was saying
earlier. It's like everyone in euphology, and everyone in religion, and everyone
in science and everyone in all all we all are grabbing the same thing.
And we're all the blind men. Yes exactly, we're all the blind men,
and we have and we're all we can't see the larger picture. That
that is like the perfect analogy. Yeah, I love it. It's because
and the whole thing is if they actually shared with one another and put it
together, that have a pretty good idea of an elephant. The other The
thing though, for people they there's something that you can do with these things.
Let me back up. So, I mean for thousands of years people
have talked about certain things about spirituality. We just don't have words, we
don't have ways to comprehend them, but they're in the term is recently been
appropriated by Elon Musk So I'm not thinking about his AI thing. But there's
a term called grock or grocking. Are you familiar with it? I actually
just heard about it. It's it's now on Twitter. It's it's a thing
that you get. Oh well, but I'm not talking about that. Okay,
He's taken a concept and applied it to AI, and I understand why.
But that's not what grock and grocking means. Oh oh his AI is
named grock is what I'm saying on Twitter. So this that's the only the
only context I've heard about it in, right, And it ticks me off
because I think it's an important concept. So now everybody's going to think it's
AI. But it was actually made up by Robert Heinland, who was a
science fiction writer back in the sixties, in a book called Stranger in a
Strange Land. But it's now a real word in the dictionary. And uh,
grocking is is. So what we call understanding is not grocking. So
what we call understanding is can you put it into words? Do you intellectually
understand it? Grocking is when you become one with something and you totally get
it. So an example, so, when I was a medical researcher,
I was in the OBG y N department. I know a lot about pregnancy.
I do not grock what it's like to be pregnant. Yeah, I
know a lot about it. I don't own it. I don't get it
fully, nor do I really want to actually, but yeah, we're blessed
as men not not to have to know so. But but the point,
well, how it applies to what we're talking about is a lot of these
things. What I teach people is to go to to grock it to like,
if it's something that you want to connect with, to connect with it
and allow yourself on the deep level to understand it, even if you can't
put it into words. So, uh, it gets you out of the
whole h logic trap where what you think becomes reality and it allows you to
connect with something deeper, right right, And so you can rock an elephant,
is what I'm saying. Right right, You rock an elephant. There
you go. So when you go to these other places, now I've done.
I've done like the Ayeluasca's and the dm you know, DMPT, and
I've met beings. Yeah, not much conversation happened, not that I remember.
But what do you think about substance. I don't like calling them drugs
because I don't think they necessarily are. I think we need to start normalizing
these kinds of things as the ancients did. They used them as uh tools,
uh as a as a way of connecting with what they thought was the
divine or the gods or whatever. We need to start doing that. And
like, I love that there's this, you know, new research study where
they're actually trying to map the world. Because everybody sees the same thing.
It's am it's there's different variations. For instance, mine, which I want
to tell you about, was first off, I want to tell you this.
It was like and I think you'd be the perfect person to to do
to talk about this with because you would understand it. No one else does.
They think I'm crazy. I was there one moment, you know,
and then I mean this stuff. I don't know if you're taking it or
done it, but DMT, you have to smoke. Sorry YouTube, but
you have to smoke it. Before you're even done exhaling the smoke boom,
you aren't gone. I felt myself like I felt separation between my body and
something and I was off to the races, and all of a sudden,
I find myself in this this It looked like the universe was around me,
but it was glossy, and there was this road and it wasn't really a
road, but it was the universe. It was more of just the same,
but it was the ground in the same sense that it was the sky.
It was weird. And I'm walking and I see this being in the
distance and he's hooded, and what I described him as most people say they're
machines. I did not see a machine. What I saw was as I
got closer to the being, it looked at me in a frightening way,
like I shouldn't be here. What are you doing here? You shouldn't be
here for too long? Because it was it was it was almost like you
need you can't be here. And there was very weird. And I kept
walking and then about five seconds later what seemed to me boom, snap back
to my body. And what I think was they knew that my body.
I had left my body, and I think they were warning me that if
your body is if you're not in your body, it can be taken by
something. Then that's my theory, like if if? Because what if?
What if I left my body, my spirit, my my whatever, And
now there's just an open husk. Now we talk about possession, right it
could could something really have just taken over my body while I was gone and
done? That, like, I know it sounds crazy, but uh,
what do you think about that? Well, there's a couple of things.
One is uh, and people aren't going to like this. There's very often
other consciousnesses in people's energy fields affecting, okay, and they can be helpful
or not helpful, and so one of the things that I was taught and
you learn to do is to remove them, you know, even if they're
helpful. It's like we can be friends, but outside of me. But
there there there are plenty of safe ways to eve your body because you're always
connected to your body even though you've left, okay, But part of is
having the intention that your body is protected and you know, but but thought
forms and stuff can slip in, and it can be good to have somebody
later check and see if thought forms or even some In fact, one of
the problems with a lot of the energy work is often it can be easy.
So there's people who teach it, and they don't teach you how to
do it safely. So I was listening to a tape back in the eighties
on channeling or something, and I was sudden, I saw this image of
what I thought was a being, and I think it was some kind of
a being and it looked kind of like a cobra with an eye in the
hood, you know, and not not a normal cobra head, but like
the hood had an eye right right right right, you know. Who knows
if that's what it really look like. But it was some kind of being
and it and I was open to it coming in and I could sense it
looking around from inside of me and stuff, and I thought, wow,
that was a cool experience. And then some time later that teacher gets on
Norman. He was going, yeah, there's this being in your space.
I'm going to take it out. And he takes it out, and I
see this thing again, and I went okay, and now I was in
in me. It had been in me, yeah, and in my energy
field. And and then he goes, I'm going to get the other one.
And with the other one, he goes, yeah, usually they're in
pairs. He takes another one out. So you do have to be careful
because it isn't I say that you're going to be possessed. I mean,
but they're riding along with you. Yes, yeah exactly, And like,
yeah, you know, you know, I do channel and stuff a times,
and there's sometimes where you want to let something in temporarily, but you
want to make sure it's temporarily a deal, that it's temperate. You are
not here to stay. So if you ever do it that again, I
would really set the intention that, like there's a bubble of energy around your
body and your spirits, you know, playing gatekeeper, and that this is
not an invitation to any right, and then then it could be good later
to have an energy work or just see if anything slipped in. Again,
it's not necessarily that they're have any ill intention or anything, but they're not
you, and they don't belong in you. And it gets more because sometimes
people have more than one soul hanging out than them that which is a whole
different thing. Oh my god, Yeah, it blew my mind too again.
There with John Norman, he would ocasionally bring people in for us to
read, but he wouldn't say why. And he brought this woman in and
we're all reading her and she leaves and nobody had said anything about this,
And I went because I didn't even know what was possible. I went.
And when John was the weirdest thing, I felt like there were two souls.
He gets this big grin on his face, and he goes, oh,
he brought her in, and why did you check if you yeah,
why did to check if you could see it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Well it was just giving us the opportunity to observe that, and nobody
else got it. And I'm thinking, like, what does that even mean?
Well, it means there was a primary soul, but they there was
permission for this other soul to be partially experiencing that lifetime, which you don't
necessarily want to do well in fact, and you know, who knows again
the truth of desturb I'm about to tell. But when people would read me
psychically, they would often talk about my sister, and I go, I
don't have a sister, and I'd name women who you know, I think
I'm kind of like sisters and they go, no, not them. And
it happened a number of different times. And then one time I was thinking
about it and I knew my mother had had a miscarriage. I went,
yeah, and I'm still born, you know, And and I went,
do you know whether that was a boy or girl? This was a girl.
And I do think it was kind of hanging around me, you know,
not like it's not like a possession, but still no. But yeah,
but oh my god, that that that is given me. But it's
not to be afraid of. It's not that I think no no no,
no no no no no no no no no no no no no no yeah,
not afraid, not afraid. I want to ask you this, Can
these things be done over? Do? They have to be done in person?
None of my work is remote. What I want to do is because
we're running out of time. Unfortunately I am. I do. I have
to be somewhere. I know you, I know you do as well,
but can you explain the process? And then I think what we should do
is after the holiday, bring you back and do a segment an hour long,
and you can do your work and on me if you want. I
don't know if that works for you. No, I can do it on
you and anybody watching, anybody listening, watching or whatever. Yeah, and
it doesn't. I mean I have tons of videos and audios and you know,
I've had thousands of thousands of people tell me like, when you watch
or listen to these things, if you pretend they're happening in real time,
you connect to the energy. Okay, And so because everything is now,
time is an illusion, right past present, future is it's all now,
it's just yeah, coach, now, it's right. But one thing,
I do have some videos. People can I mention them? That would help.
Yeah, So if and if all of the all of the things that
he's mentioning for everybody watching listening, they'll all be linked in the description below,
so you'll be able to find art and is in what he's about to
talk about. And and I would love to come back and and also do
it here. But I have the people go to a Blockbuster one word.
Oh my god, oh my god, you block what? Tell me you
you have the domain to Blockbuster dot com? No, I have Blockbuster seven
dot com. Oh blocks, but Blockbuster seven. If people sign up,
it's it's completely free. They get four videos over four days and then you
have access to them ongoing, and they'll take you through very easy, powerful
energy techniques to clear other energies out of your space, bring in more of
your true essence, clear unconscious programming, energetic programming, and a lot more.
I mean a lot of people told me I shouldn't be giving them away.
You know that sounds very people. Yeah, time, and well you
know what I before you say that, I give you I'm gonna give you
credit because you know, you may charge for like the in person stuff and
all that. But because people in uphology in this field, like they get
all like they get all butt hurt about people who make money doing it because
they at that point they think, oh, you've sold out or oh it's
like, no, that's not what's happening. I need to eat. That's
what's happening, you know. And I even take it further, like like
when people go, oh, I don't think healers should get paid, you
know, and people helping people shouldn't get paid, and I'll go, so
you want to live in a world If you're doing something neutral or bad,
it's okay to make money, but if you're doing something good, it's not
okay to make money. I go, I don't want to live. It's
like, yeah, what you know. This whole idea that like, if
you're doing something good you shouldn't make money is part of how we're oppressed,
very very much, very much so, like in the U, especially in
the UFO field. I I hate to say this, and I know that's
not where you come from specifically, but in the UFO community, if you're
making money, then You're often labeled as a right uh, a charlatan.
Uh. And there are Charlatans. Uh. We know this, We know
who they are. You know. I had I mean, h Kimberly M.
George on the show Just Straight, and I'm quoting her. I did
not say this. She said doctor Greer started as a great a truth seeker,
someone who was in it for the right reasons. And then yeah,
certain an agency got to him and now he's being paid whatever whatever. I'm
not. You know, there are Charlatans out there. But we do these
things. We do these podcasts, we do these healings. We also need
to eat. Guys. It's not our time in our in our in our
and our energy. Literally our words matter, right, our everything matters.
Uh literally, it's it's it's energy matter right. We're putting that time in
so Uh to get to get a little to get a little money for it
is not a bad thing. Uh. Exploit, to exploit people is a
bad thing. Yeah. But also you know sendings. Some people go,
oh, you charge money for things, and I do you know, hundreds
and hundreds of hours of free stuff And I do like a free meditation every
Sunday called Change the World from your living room. Yeah, yeah, we're
people. We do a world healing and then a personal healing, and I
have a I have a so on the channel, I have a playlist that
is guided meditation. It's it's what I use. So I created a playlist.
So what I'll do is I will incorporate your channel so that it will
always go into there so people can watch that because I love guide Meditation and
I'm really I asked around about you and I've heard some really good things.
Oh thanks, Yeah, and a lot of people tell me it's like the
highlight of their week. And we do a world meditation and fits in with
what we're saying. But then everybody gets a personal energy healing. And the
reason I do that, what besides to help people, is to break down
that like, oh, you know, it's not okay if you benefit when
you do something good, Like when somebody helps me, I love it if
they benefit too. You know, I'm not saying, you know, it's
one thing if it's a have to, but like it's like, I love
it if somebody helps me and they benefit, all the better. So I
put them together. We do a world Healing meditation. Then everybody gets an
individual one, and partially because I'm trying to break down this old belief that
like, oh, it's only a good act if you don't benefit, which
I think is just well, I'm not judging it as a past belief,
but it's definitely not a new age belief. It's it's you know, the
old outdated. It's like, I know, I should be a martyr and
suffer for doing good. It's like what, yeah, No, that's that's
not the world we live in anymore. No, there are there are literally
literally women who unfortunately you know I I you don't hate the player, you
hate the game. We live in a society where women on only fans can
make money doing that stuff right right right, And we don't say a word,
but you know it is what it is. So listen, Art,
You've been absolutely amazing. You've been a great guest. I love the topics
and and and and what we started to talk about here today. Where can
people continue the conversation with you on any social media platforms or uh websites again
that you want to re read? Well, on Facebook, Energetic n LP,
on Instagram, art Guyser which is a R T G I S E
R only one E but but really a great way to get introduced to the
work is the Blockbuster seven dot com or the one I was just talking about.
It's called Change the World from your living Room dot com. Change the
World from your living Room dot com and that's every everyday, uh and the
other They can email me at support at Energetic LP dot com. Beautiful be
Beautiful. All that will be included in the description below. We want to
thank everyone. Make a listen. I love the give your show because when
I first turn about it, you know, because you know, some conspiracy
UFO people are are it's all about anger and you know, and they're screwing
us. But and I love the way you're doing this and and your openness
to like, you know, you tell what you think and here's what we
know, here's what we're not sure about. But just there's a whole energy
you're doing about it that isn't about just fighting evil or something, you know
what I mean. It's more about let let's bring reacit, let's bring the
facts out to people and anyways. I can't describe it, but I love
the energy of of how you're doing this. Wow, those those are really
nice of you to say. I I I try, I really do,
and I know there's things that need to work on. You know, some
people say that, Uh, you know, I tend to dominate the conversation.
And I used to have a co host, and I just I don't
think I work well with the co host. I think I need to have
one on one conversations. It allows me to be more intimate with the guests.
And and I think it's just a better show when it's just me and
one other person. And I truly truly appreciate the words that you speak.
And I everyone who comes on this show I maintain relationships with. I talk
with, you know, on a personal level. I become friends with them.
You know, I this this community has helped me so much. And
like you know, if I'm suffering, I have people that I can reach
out to now that understand and are willing to just talk. Uh. And
and now you're one of those people. Art And again, you know,
I just I thank you for the work that you do, the time you
put in. And again that same energy that you feel about me, I
feel about you. And and you know you you're doing you're doing something that
that not only benefits you as as an individual, but it benefits the people
that you work with and the overall greater good because if you know, for
every art art guyser, you know, hopefully, uh, there's twenty five
more that are inspired each time that you, you know, go out there
and do something. So thank you. Yeah, let's do both. On
a person I'd love to come back and show, but on a personal level,
that's stay in connection, and I'll introduce you to those people we talked
about too, because I really like what you're doing. Yeah, beautiful and
uh, like I said, let's yeah, let's let's do that. And
for anyone listening, oh, I just slapped it. For anyone listening on
Spotify or Apple, remember it's free and it's the holiday season, you know,
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You know, I love it, I really do. I love criticism and
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card for Christmas so or the Christmas season. Thank you everyone for listening,
Thank you Art for being here. And thank you to everyone in the in
the in the world, in the universe, and to all of our cosmic
brothers. We'll see you next time. An inmate in an intent and an intimated
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