"DISCLOSURE WILL RAMP UP BY JULY"-PASTOR BRIEFED ON INEVITABLE 'ALIEN DISCLOSURE' | Ft. Bishop Alan Didio

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1:26 Speaker 2: Welcome back to total disclosure. Everyone. Tonight, we have a

1:31 Speaker 2: guest who's been making some serious ways, not just in

1:35 Speaker 2: the Christian world, but across the entire UFO and disclosure community.

1:40 Speaker 2: Joining us today is Bishop Alan Dido of Revival Nation Church.

1:45 Speaker 2: The Bishop had a radical encounter with God at just

1:48 Speaker 2: seventeen years old and instantly transformed him from a dogmatic

1:52 Speaker 2: atheist into a passionate follower of Jesus Christ. After Bible College,

1:57 Speaker 2: he spent over a decades serving in full time ministry,

2:00 Speaker 2: including overseeing and International Prayer Center, traveling the world preaching

2:04 Speaker 2: the Gospel, and in two thousand and four he founded

2:07 Speaker 2: in counter ministries with a clear mandate who awaken believers

2:11 Speaker 2: and equip the church. He has carried that message of

2:14 Speaker 2: Jesus to nations including Pakistan, China, Israel, Haiti, and Guatemala

2:20 Speaker 2: Guatemala while reaching villiads war through his teachings and media platforms.

2:25 Speaker 2: But what brings him into the headlines recently, especially here

2:30 Speaker 2: in the UFO and Disclosure space, is something a little

2:32 Speaker 2: bit different. He is one of the people who publicly

2:36 Speaker 2: confirmed being part of this private meeting other church leaders

2:41 Speaker 2: and these individuals eating deepenings to intelligence and government circles

2:46 Speaker 2: reportedly warned that disclosure of non human intelligence is on

2:51 Speaker 2: its way in one form or another, and that the

2:54 Speaker 2: people in the church needed to prepare the people because

2:57 Speaker 2: it could challenge their onto logic, biblical understandings of reality.

3:03 Speaker 2: So tonight join us as we listen to the first

3:06 Speaker 2: hand account of what really you was shared in that meeting,

3:09 Speaker 2: the spiritual implications discussed, and how Alan believes the church

3:14 Speaker 2: should respond to the topic of on human intelligence. And

3:17 Speaker 2: this is total disclosure. Apparently, I I needed to practice

3:30 Speaker 2: my my saying in Guatemala. But Bishop, it's it's it's

3:36 Speaker 2: really great to have you on the show. You know

3:39 Speaker 2: what I didn't ask you previously was how do you

3:41 Speaker 2: pronounce your last name?

3:43 Speaker 1: Ah?

3:44 Speaker 3: Yes, the everlasting eternal question. It's did Oh. But I've

3:48 Speaker 3: heard of everything under the sun, So if there's any

3:51 Speaker 3: type of stutter I did, then I know you're talking

3:53 Speaker 3: to me and I accept that I receive it.

3:56 Speaker 4: So a valiant effort.

3:59 Speaker 2: I heard that or that, I was like, oh shit,

4:01 Speaker 2: I Forart to ask him how how phonetically we said this?

4:05 Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm going to take a show.

4:07 Speaker 3: That means of it means of God. So when you

4:10 Speaker 3: get it wrong, it's kind of like blasphemy, but not

4:12 Speaker 3: not really. It's between you and your God. Just just

4:15 Speaker 3: say a little no, just kidding, But DIO doesn't mean

4:19 Speaker 3: of God.

4:20 Speaker 4: That deal.

4:22 Speaker 2: Well, that's really interesting because so you went starting kind

4:27 Speaker 2: of at the beginning here, Uh, you were an atheist

4:30 Speaker 2: at one point, you know, in your childhood. How did

4:33 Speaker 2: it go? I want to hear that encounter of how

4:35 Speaker 2: it went from you know, being really like a dogmatic

4:38 Speaker 2: atheist to someone who's reaching the Gospel and made his

4:44 Speaker 2: life mission to do.

4:45 Speaker 3: So that's a yeah, that's a wild story. By the

4:48 Speaker 3: time I was seventeen years of age, i'd been in

4:50 Speaker 3: jail twice and I had convinced myself that I was

4:54 Speaker 3: an atheist, although today I say there's no such thing

4:56 Speaker 3: as atheist and I don't have enough faith to be

4:59 Speaker 3: an atheist. But the there's a lot of people who

5:00 Speaker 3: purport to be atheists, and being raised in the buckle

5:04 Speaker 3: of the Bible belt one of the reasons I claimed

5:06 Speaker 3: to be an atheist and I had no desire or

5:09 Speaker 3: passion for religion, especially Christianity especially and the reason for

5:14 Speaker 3: that is because of the Christian atheist that I knew.

5:18 Speaker 3: A Christian atheist is someone who claims to believe in God,

5:21 Speaker 3: but they live like he doesn't exist. And that testimony

5:24 Speaker 3: of that hypocrisy was enough to convince me that if

5:26 Speaker 3: God was real, it certainly could not have been the

5:29 Speaker 3: Christian God. But at seventeen years of age, you know,

5:34 Speaker 3: I used to give speeches in class attempting to disprove

5:36 Speaker 3: the existence of God. I thought I was pretty smart.

5:39 Speaker 3: Turns out I'm still not that smart, but certainly wasn't smart.

5:42 Speaker 3: At seventeen, I had a radical encounter with Satan as

5:47 Speaker 3: well as with Jesus. And that's one of the reasons

5:49 Speaker 3: why I say, concerning the UFO discussion, you know, we

5:52 Speaker 3: may be late to the conversation concerning UFOs, but we're

5:55 Speaker 3: not late to the conversation concerning non human intelligence and

5:58 Speaker 3: concerning the Supernatra. And I had a radical encounter that

6:02 Speaker 3: transformed my life and just had a complete shift and

6:05 Speaker 3: gave my life to Jesus.

6:14 Speaker 4: You still there that I lose you. Yeah.

6:18 Speaker 3: At seventeen, in being invited to a church that I

6:22 Speaker 3: didn't want to go to, I went to a youth

6:24 Speaker 3: gathering and in that youth gathering, I had an experience

6:27 Speaker 3: where that voice inside my head that I had been

6:30 Speaker 3: listening to my entire life, that voice that was telling me,

6:33 Speaker 3: you don't believe in any of this, you need to

6:34 Speaker 3: stay away from this, get out of here, you don't

6:36 Speaker 3: want anything to do with Christianity. That all of a sudden,

6:39 Speaker 3: I won't go into the full story, but it became audible,

6:41 Speaker 3: and I heard that voice, and I immediately recognized it

6:44 Speaker 3: as the voice of Satan, or the voice of some

6:46 Speaker 3: sort of demonic entity, and I knew immediately what it was.

6:49 Speaker 3: It's like the Wizard of Oz when God, when the

6:51 Speaker 3: Toto pulled the curtain back. God pulled the curtain back

6:54 Speaker 3: for me and showed me who was really doing the talking,

6:57 Speaker 3: and that there's a lot of people across the planet,

6:59 Speaker 3: around the world who think that they're making these decisions,

7:02 Speaker 3: they're thinking these dolls, not realizing that thoughts can be

7:05 Speaker 3: injected or suggested to the human mind from nefarious entities.

7:10 Speaker 3: And of course, realizing that it was demonic, I knew, well,

7:13 Speaker 3: if Satan's real, then Jesus is real. And I said, Satan,

7:16 Speaker 3: you can't have me anymore. Jesus I'm all yours, and

7:20 Speaker 3: that's how I gave my life to Jesus.

7:22 Speaker 2: You know, it's very interesting. I was I would consider

7:29 Speaker 2: myself deafly not atheists, by the way, I think. I

7:34 Speaker 2: think you're probably right in saying that that I don't

7:37 Speaker 2: think anyone on the planet even really wants to be atheist,

7:42 Speaker 2: because I mean, it's so it's so definitive, right, yes,

7:48 Speaker 2: And the world that is not black and white. Far

7:51 Speaker 2: from it. To think that it would be so simple

7:55 Speaker 2: as life, death, black before, black after, and that's it.

8:01 Speaker 2: It just one thing the universe isn't. And this is

8:05 Speaker 2: something I've always felt in my heart. The universe is

8:07 Speaker 2: not wasteful. I mean, it's it's simply not. And you know,

8:12 Speaker 2: whether you choose to call the forces of the universe

8:16 Speaker 2: God or you know, whatever gets you through the higher

8:23 Speaker 2: power of your choosing. You know, I've this sober for

8:26 Speaker 2: six years from drinking, and that's a big part of

8:29 Speaker 2: it because we congratulations, Yeah, thank you. I really appreciate that.

8:34 Speaker 2: You know, six years also the time of the amount

8:36 Speaker 2: of time I've been doing this show. So this show

8:39 Speaker 2: saved my life.

8:40 Speaker 3: Wow, you know, and what a six year, what a

8:43 Speaker 3: wild six years to quit drinking. By the way, if

8:47 Speaker 3: you're going to start drinking, it would have been the

8:49 Speaker 3: next the last six years. But yeah, it's amazing and

8:52 Speaker 3: you found your purpose.

8:54 Speaker 2: I found my purpose, and you know, it's really all.

8:57 Speaker 2: And my audience is gonna be like, dude, if you

8:59 Speaker 2: tell this one more time, we're gonna lose my mind.

9:02 Speaker 2: But my mom, she took us to church. And the

9:05 Speaker 2: reason I say that bring up my views, I'm not

9:08 Speaker 2: gonna say what I am. I don't. I just don't

9:10 Speaker 2: like to bring that into it. But my mom brought

9:13 Speaker 2: us to church, and one thing she would never do

9:14 Speaker 2: is put a She never forced us to do anything

9:18 Speaker 2: that we didn't really want to do. So she brought

9:20 Speaker 2: us to church a couple weekends in a row, and

9:22 Speaker 2: then she asked me, my sister, do you guys want

9:24 Speaker 2: to go back? And we both said no, and we

9:28 Speaker 2: never went back. We never went back with her. I

9:32 Speaker 2: think we both found our way back separate to that,

9:37 Speaker 2: but she allows us to go explore and to find

9:40 Speaker 2: our way to make the mistakes to not you know,

9:44 Speaker 2: because a lot of parents they'll force their views and

9:46 Speaker 2: their kids. But I think that's what with the UFO topic, too,

9:50 Speaker 2: keeps the stigma alive. It's really it sucks, it really does.

9:56 Speaker 2: So I mean I was I think I was a

9:59 Speaker 2: special case where I didn't have something forced upon me.

10:03 Speaker 2: I wasn't told I had to do this, I had

10:06 Speaker 2: to do that. It was go find your own way,

10:08 Speaker 2: go answer the questions you want answered. And I'm here

10:13 Speaker 2: with today.

10:14 Speaker 4: So yeah, a similar story.

10:16 Speaker 3: You know, we didn't really go to church growing up

10:18 Speaker 3: unless there were Christmas points set as or Easter lily

10:20 Speaker 3: is decorating the hallway, you know, And so I didn't

10:24 Speaker 3: really have any Bible knowledge or any and I think

10:27 Speaker 3: that aided me because even as a claiming to be

10:31 Speaker 3: an atheist, I had lots of questions that I wanted answered.

10:34 Speaker 3: And just because I gave my life to Jesus didn't

10:35 Speaker 3: mean I didn't have questions anymore. I still have that

10:39 Speaker 3: analytical side that one of these questions answered. And I

10:42 Speaker 3: feel like that any search for truth or any religion

10:45 Speaker 3: that is true cannot shy away from hard questions. If

10:49 Speaker 3: we're just going to say you just need to believe,

10:51 Speaker 3: you should just have faith, you know, even when you

10:54 Speaker 3: don't understand something and don't ask those questions, we'll find

10:57 Speaker 3: out when we're in heaven. Well, you know, maybe there

10:59 Speaker 3: are some things that we'll find out when we're in heaven.

11:01 Speaker 3: But we serve a God who answers prayer. We serve

11:04 Speaker 3: a god. If he is the God of truth, then

11:06 Speaker 3: he doesn't mind us pursuing truth. And so I've always

11:09 Speaker 3: been analytical in that way. Even in regard to this

11:11 Speaker 3: subject matter, alien's UFOs UAPs. I've always been aware of it,

11:15 Speaker 3: fascinated by it, interested in it. About three years ago

11:18 Speaker 3: I started doing deep research into it from the from

11:22 Speaker 3: the role of a skeptic. You know, I'm a big

11:24 Speaker 3: fan of The X Files, and the show would not

11:27 Speaker 3: be good if there wasn't a Scully.

11:28 Speaker 4: Molder, the true believer.

11:30 Speaker 3: That's great, but you've got to have the Scully in there,

11:32 Speaker 3: who's asking hard questions, who's pushing back. And I've always

11:35 Speaker 3: been kind of that way, even in this meeting that

11:37 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about today. So I think that's

11:40 Speaker 3: that's really valuable.

11:42 Speaker 2: So let's I guess let's start with that with the

11:46 Speaker 2: elephant in the room. You were one of the people

11:48 Speaker 2: that were brought into this private briefing meeting with other

11:52 Speaker 2: church members and leaders. Can you walk through exactly what happened,

11:56 Speaker 2: who was there, what was presented, and what were you

11:59 Speaker 2: told about some sort of incoming disclosure on a non

12:02 Speaker 2: human intelligence.

12:04 Speaker 4: Yeah.

12:04 Speaker 3: I was quoted in the New York Times. How wild

12:06 Speaker 3: is this? I was quoted in the New York Times

12:09 Speaker 3: as saying, that's the strangest meeting I've ever been a

12:11 Speaker 3: part of in my life.

12:12 Speaker 4: And it really was.

12:14 Speaker 3: And there are people who get upset and say, you're sensationalizing.

12:17 Speaker 3: To me, there's no way to sensationalize this because it's

12:20 Speaker 3: sensational all by itself. You don't have to do anything

12:23 Speaker 3: to it for it to be sensational. But to start with,

12:26 Speaker 3: there were two meetings that, at least at the time

12:30 Speaker 3: when this went viral, I was aware of, put on

12:33 Speaker 3: by the same individuals, and the first I was invited

12:36 Speaker 3: to both. The first one it sounded kind of weird,

12:38 Speaker 3: my schedules full, so I decided against it. The second

12:41 Speaker 3: one we were in Nationale, Tennessee at the National Religious

12:45 Speaker 3: Broadcasters Convention, which is amazing. Thousands of Christian leaders and

12:49 Speaker 3: content creators gathered together from all over the world, and

12:52 Speaker 3: so you have people in a room that you would

12:54 Speaker 3: never have in a room together at the same time. Anyway,

12:57 Speaker 3: lots of friends and acquaintances that we would never get

12:59 Speaker 3: to see one another. We're able to reconnect, fellowship, catch up.

13:03 Speaker 3: And a mutual friend whose name is Tony Merkle. He

13:06 Speaker 3: runs the Confessionals podcast, which is phenomenal if you're interested

13:08 Speaker 3: in UFO UAP stuff. And this is that's his that's

13:12 Speaker 3: his stream, and he loves Jesus and but he loves

13:15 Speaker 3: getting into those weird subject matter from cryptids to alien

13:20 Speaker 3: abductions to anything like that. He's just and he does

13:23 Speaker 3: it beautifully, very knowledgeable, and he knew these two gentlemen. Now,

13:27 Speaker 3: these two gentlemen who put on this meeting, we're calling

13:31 Speaker 3: them a group of private Christian investigators and operators who

13:38 Speaker 3: have had extensive experience within the government. They are not

13:41 Speaker 3: actively government representatives or government officials, but they are actively

13:45 Speaker 3: investigating the government and they have sources within it. And

13:49 Speaker 3: it's very difficult to describe what they do. But they

13:53 Speaker 3: wished for their identities to remain anonymous, So coming out

13:57 Speaker 3: of the meeting, the only reason it's been called a

13:58 Speaker 3: secret meeting is because of their identities remaining anonymous, and

14:02 Speaker 3: hopefully in the future, one or both of them will

14:05 Speaker 3: be able to come out and tell their story and

14:07 Speaker 3: identify themselves in their extensive experience. And one of them

14:10 Speaker 3: really is an American hero. When I met him at NRB,

14:13 Speaker 3: we discovered that we actually knew one another. We had

14:16 Speaker 3: communicated in the past, and I knew him This is

14:19 Speaker 3: a real warrior, This is a real American hero, and

14:22 Speaker 3: I knew him to be sincere. I know that he

14:24 Speaker 3: loves Jesus, and I know he believes what he's been

14:28 Speaker 3: investigating is a worthwhile endeavor. So that's the reason why

14:32 Speaker 3: I agreed to go to this second meeting. And even

14:34 Speaker 3: on the way there, a friend of mine, we communicate

14:36 Speaker 3: with one another, saying, are you sure you want to

14:38 Speaker 3: go to this meeting? Because this is kind of weird

14:39 Speaker 3: with this alien disclosure. You kind of turn your phones

14:42 Speaker 3: on airplane mode. So we go into this off the

14:46 Speaker 3: beaten path neighborhood. The street lights appear to be out.

14:50 Speaker 3: It's just this long dark street. You approach this rented

14:54 Speaker 3: small airbnb with a host of rented SUVs because you

14:59 Speaker 3: got a lot of visiting pasths and ministers just jammed

15:02 Speaker 3: in the parking lot and as you approach it. You

15:04 Speaker 3: have to turn your phone on airplane mode. And there's

15:08 Speaker 3: now a three hour slideshow presentation of what these gentlemen

15:12 Speaker 3: have uncovered in their investigation. And they weren't there. Again,

15:17 Speaker 3: they're not government. If this was the government telling us

15:19 Speaker 3: this is what you need to say, I wouldn't trust

15:22 Speaker 3: the government any further that I.

15:23 Speaker 4: Can throw it.

15:24 Speaker 3: They were saying, here's what's coming, and you need to

15:27 Speaker 3: just simply go back and teach the Bible to your people,

15:29 Speaker 3: make sure your people have a strong biblical foundation. But

15:32 Speaker 3: they were concerned that and this was the big news.

15:36 Speaker 3: This was what really convinced us. As the days went on,

15:39 Speaker 3: this was legitimate. They said, disclosures coming immediately. It will

15:43 Speaker 3: begin as a drip, drip drip, the government discussing talking

15:47 Speaker 3: about officials saying aliens non human UAPs UFOs are real,

15:54 Speaker 3: and then it will ultimately culminate, possibly by July in

15:57 Speaker 3: an official disclosure, if not before then. And brother within

16:02 Speaker 3: it was within I think days before this meeting, Barack

16:06 Speaker 3: Obama came out and said, oh, they're real, they're just

16:09 Speaker 3: not in area fifty one unless they're hiding it from

16:12 Speaker 3: the president as if you know that's an impossibility. And

16:15 Speaker 3: then within hours of our meeting, within the same day,

16:18 Speaker 3: Trump comes out and addresses that, saying Obama released classified

16:21 Speaker 3: information and then there was verification from that point on

16:25 Speaker 3: leading up to the historic disclosure that took place beginning

16:30 Speaker 3: May eighth, and it's a process that began on May eighth.

16:33 Speaker 4: So that's kind of the gist of the meeting.

16:37 Speaker 2: Well, okay, and so when he that person's people they're

16:45 Speaker 2: giving in this brief and they say that you need

16:48 Speaker 2: to start teaching the Bible, you know the way it was.

16:54 Speaker 2: What's the wording there that they chose to use, because

16:57 Speaker 2: what aren't you doing now or what isn't the church

17:01 Speaker 2: do now that they should be doing to prepare people.

17:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're treating this as let's say, for an example,

17:11 Speaker 3: a major cult was coming into a pastor city and

17:15 Speaker 3: it was very convincing, and thousands of people were going

17:18 Speaker 3: to potentially buy into these lives if they weren't prepared

17:21 Speaker 3: with answers. And that was simply their goal. That there

17:24 Speaker 3: are many in the church who may not have a

17:26 Speaker 3: grid for this, they don't even know how to process

17:29 Speaker 3: this information that may maybe they're easily manipulated. There are

17:32 Speaker 3: people within the church that will not be moved by this.

17:35 Speaker 3: I mean solid Christians, people who followed programs like ours,

17:38 Speaker 3: who talk about these kinds of things regularly and dive

17:40 Speaker 3: into the supernatural.

17:42 Speaker 4: They're not going to be moved by anything.

17:43 Speaker 3: I mean solid believers across all denominations, who read their Bibles,

17:47 Speaker 3: who pray, who are active within their church community. They

17:50 Speaker 3: know what the Bible says. None of these things that

17:52 Speaker 3: could come out are going to be shocking. But they're

17:54 Speaker 3: concerned about people who were in the pews but on

17:56 Speaker 3: the fence as well as you know, people were trying

17:59 Speaker 3: to evangelize. We want to reach for the gospel, and

18:02 Speaker 3: they may be convinced by a lot of the narrative

18:04 Speaker 3: that comes out. So if we can just get to

18:05 Speaker 3: them first, it's like raising kids, you know, if you

18:08 Speaker 3: can talk to them about a subject first, before you know,

18:12 Speaker 3: the worldly teacher gets to them, or before they get

18:15 Speaker 3: it from TV or from music, you can help frame

18:18 Speaker 3: the narratives so they're able to process it. I was

18:21 Speaker 3: on timcast and Ian mentioned this Ian's my favorite, and

18:25 Speaker 3: he mentioned that if he sees something that's going to

18:28 Speaker 3: come out on the news that would upset his mom.

18:30 Speaker 3: He will call her ahead of time and like frame

18:32 Speaker 3: it for her so that she won't be upset by

18:35 Speaker 3: it or kind of deceived by whatever's in the news.

18:37 Speaker 3: And that's really what their agenda was, because these two

18:40 Speaker 3: gentlemen love Jesus, they love the Church, and they're like,

18:42 Speaker 3: I don't think the church. There's not a lot of

18:44 Speaker 3: churches talking about the supernatural, not a lot of churches

18:47 Speaker 3: talking about end time deception, and there's not a lot

18:50 Speaker 3: of Christians who think this is worthy of conversation. This

18:53 Speaker 3: whole alien ufo uf thing. That's fringe stuff. I mean,

18:57 Speaker 3: that's sci fi stuff.

18:58 Speaker 4: That's the joke.

18:59 Speaker 3: There's no reason we need to talk about that. And

19:01 Speaker 3: as a result, many Christians will be unprepared for whatever

19:05 Speaker 3: will drop.

19:07 Speaker 2: Right, right, And that's actually you know, one of the

19:11 Speaker 2: things that people talk about in the disclosure community is

19:13 Speaker 2: this ontological shock, right, And having seen a craft when

19:20 Speaker 2: I was younger, there is a period of time where,

19:26 Speaker 2: you know, because I do consider there was a life

19:30 Speaker 2: I had before I saw what I saw, and a

19:33 Speaker 2: life I had after I saw what I saw both times,

19:37 Speaker 2: because the first time was the craft. The second time

19:40 Speaker 2: was with my mother when she passed. The moment she

19:43 Speaker 2: passed away, I saw this or be in the room

19:47 Speaker 2: with me, and it just kind of left the room.

19:51 Speaker 2: And then when I looked back at my mother, she

19:53 Speaker 2: was gone. And her death date is four three to one, So,

19:59 Speaker 2: you know, sh I wasn't happy at the time, like

20:02 Speaker 2: I still needed to find my bearings. I was freshly sober,

20:07 Speaker 2: and it was almost like her way of like pushing

20:09 Speaker 2: me back on track and re sparking my I for answer.

20:16 Speaker 2: So unfortunately, the day she took her last breath, you know,

20:21 Speaker 2: uh was it is a moment that I often have

20:24 Speaker 2: to think about because something I don't know if it

20:27 Speaker 2: was real, but I know what I what I saw

20:31 Speaker 2: and what it made me think and made me feel. So,

20:36 Speaker 2: you know, getting people ready for that, I think is

20:38 Speaker 2: a is a noble thing. It sounds like the people

20:42 Speaker 2: who delivered this breathing or this meeting, I should say

20:47 Speaker 2: they were doing it because no one else would.

20:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, yeah.

20:54 Speaker 2: And are they saying that that the that the US government,

20:57 Speaker 2: I was a little bit unclear on this part. Are

21:00 Speaker 2: they saying that the disclosure that's coming is going to

21:04 Speaker 2: be framed in a way that is like is it's

21:09 Speaker 2: not real. That isn't the whole truth.

21:13 Speaker 4: You know.

21:14 Speaker 3: They what they did was is they set up several

21:16 Speaker 3: potential narratives. So they went through because I think even

21:20 Speaker 3: in my research in this, I think the the government, corporations,

21:23 Speaker 3: whatever the powers that be that are in control, follow

21:26 Speaker 3: the money, right, follow the follow follow the greed and

21:29 Speaker 3: the lust for power. Whoever is controlling the narrative, they're

21:33 Speaker 3: going to attempt to put forth. Just throw things against

21:37 Speaker 3: the wall and see see what will what will the

21:40 Speaker 3: American people digest? Even if what we're dealing with, and

21:43 Speaker 3: a lot of this disclosure is real, how do we

21:46 Speaker 3: frame it? And how much of it that's real do

21:49 Speaker 3: we share? How much of a lie do we share?

21:51 Speaker 3: And they're gonna they're going to try to use this,

21:53 Speaker 3: of course, to advance their own agendas. So they actually

21:56 Speaker 3: much of the time in the meeting they shared with

21:59 Speaker 3: us different front faithcing ufoologists, if you will, or spokes

22:04 Speaker 3: people that you often see on the news, and they're saying, Okay,

22:07 Speaker 3: here's this person's background, here's what they believe. And you know,

22:09 Speaker 3: one of the interesting things in this meeting was that

22:11 Speaker 3: they said the United States government operates in such silos

22:15 Speaker 3: that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand

22:17 Speaker 3: is doing. And as a result of that, you have

22:19 Speaker 3: certain segments who truly believe one thing, while others who

22:23 Speaker 3: truly believe something entirely different, and they have no idea

22:26 Speaker 3: what the other is doing. And so who knows what

22:29 Speaker 3: cream will rise to the top, what narrative will be

22:32 Speaker 3: the one that sticks, Which is why we need to

22:34 Speaker 3: be prepared for it by simply grounding people in Bible truth.

22:37 Speaker 3: And what that means is Christians need to know that

22:41 Speaker 3: non human entities exist in the Bible, that the supernatural

22:44 Speaker 3: is there, and the Bible says that even Satan can

22:47 Speaker 3: show up as an angel of light. So appearance can't

22:51 Speaker 3: be what moves us. Appearance should not affect us. What

22:56 Speaker 3: should affect us is the substance of what message these

22:59 Speaker 3: things bring. Troy Brewer who often says, you know, we

23:01 Speaker 3: talk about a lot of crazy things I do and

23:04 Speaker 3: many of my ministerial friends do, and we do a

23:06 Speaker 3: program together called the Counter and it's basically like a

23:09 Speaker 3: bunch of pastors sitting around the ministers talking about X

23:12 Speaker 3: files type stuff, and the whole purpose of it is

23:14 Speaker 3: to raise support to rescue kids out of human trafficking.

23:16 Speaker 3: So we have a lot of fun with this conversation

23:19 Speaker 3: for very serious calls. And in fact, these operators who

23:22 Speaker 3: are doing this work, who held these two meetings, there's

23:26 Speaker 3: an aspect to their investigation that involves human trafficking, which

23:30 Speaker 3: is why they wish to remain anonymous until they've completed

23:32 Speaker 3: their investigation. And even to add to this, by the way,

23:35 Speaker 3: I know there's been a lot of confusion. Perry Stone

23:38 Speaker 3: came out with his video and people are saying, well,

23:41 Speaker 3: so and so said this, and so and so says that.

23:43 Speaker 3: So Perry Stone's operating off of secondhand information and he's

23:47 Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, he's correct in what he communicated.

23:50 Speaker 4: There were two meetings.

23:53 Speaker 3: One had representative Burlison calling into one of those meetings,

23:55 Speaker 3: that was the first meeting, and the second meeting did

23:58 Speaker 3: not have a representative calling into. But even with that,

24:01 Speaker 3: we're discovering that there have been other meetings going on

24:04 Speaker 3: put on by other operators or individuals, and we don't

24:07 Speaker 3: know who they are or exactly what they're shaying. So

24:09 Speaker 3: we're actually looking into that now trying to figure that out.

24:12 Speaker 3: So something is happening where there's a ground swell, it

24:15 Speaker 3: seems of Christians who see this coming down the pike

24:19 Speaker 3: and are saying, Okay, we've got to prepare the church

24:21 Speaker 3: for this conversation.

24:23 Speaker 2: Right. And Eric is a good friend of mine, the representative, Yeah,

24:29 Speaker 2: he sought me out and we've been good friends practically

24:33 Speaker 2: ever since. Bircht and a few, yeah, a few others,

24:40 Speaker 2: but they're a little bit more polarizing. So that's we

24:44 Speaker 2: keep it on the you know, because I tried to

24:47 Speaker 2: let that the part lines affect yes, right, because well

24:52 Speaker 2: we don't get into that.

24:53 Speaker 4: We don't have time, all of us. Right, this should be,

24:56 Speaker 4: it really does.

24:58 Speaker 2: It's the only top I've seen in the past five

25:02 Speaker 2: to ten years, maybe even longer that is completely utterly

25:07 Speaker 2: nonpartisan and continues to be throughouts throughout its journey and

25:14 Speaker 2: as throws. I think people be this is one of

25:17 Speaker 2: those topics, I mean, what we're dealing with, and I

25:21 Speaker 2: think a lot of people forget this, Like you know,

25:24 Speaker 2: when when we're kids, we have a couple of questions,

25:26 Speaker 2: what happens when we die? Are we alone? This is

25:31 Speaker 2: one of the few fundamental questions that affects every single

25:35 Speaker 2: person equally, whether you're it doesn't matter your race, religious sex, creed,

25:41 Speaker 2: any of it. It's you when you look in the mirror,

25:45 Speaker 2: your place in the cosmos, in the universe, in this

25:50 Speaker 2: vast place we call reality, It's going to be what

25:56 Speaker 2: it what it means to you, and how it changes

26:00 Speaker 2: you to know that you know, non human intelligence exists,

26:04 Speaker 2: and it has probably been visiting this planet. And there's

26:06 Speaker 2: a good chance that our ancestors may maybe misidentified some

26:15 Speaker 2: things as gods when they were actually extraterrestrial. And I

26:20 Speaker 2: want to talk about this. In your book Summing the Demon,

26:24 Speaker 2: you explore connections between AI aliens and the Antichrist. Do

26:29 Speaker 2: you believe non human intelligence could be connected to biblical

26:32 Speaker 2: concepts like fallen angels, nephilim, democ deception, rather than say,

26:37 Speaker 2: physical extraterrestrials from other planets.

26:41 Speaker 4: Yeah.

26:42 Speaker 3: Even the investigators who put on the meeting, that was

26:45 Speaker 3: their main point that they believe that a lot of

26:47 Speaker 3: what we're seeing is falling angel technology. Of course, if

26:50 Speaker 3: you take out ninety percent of what we're seeing is

26:52 Speaker 3: military technology, right, ninety percent of that is what we're

26:55 Speaker 3: seeing is military tech. And you also have misidentified natural phenomenon,

26:59 Speaker 3: You have social contagion. You have to factor all of

27:01 Speaker 3: that in, But there is that sliver of these things

27:05 Speaker 3: that are supernatural, if you will. Now, I think one

27:09 Speaker 3: of the biggest mistakes the Western culture of the Western

27:11 Speaker 3: Church has made in this culture is separating the spirit

27:15 Speaker 3: from the natural. And we we ask when we see

27:18 Speaker 3: these things, well, is that spiritual or is it natural?

27:20 Speaker 3: And often what we're asking is is it real or

27:22 Speaker 3: is it imaginary? Is really what we're asking is it?

27:25 Speaker 3: Is it tangible or is it you know, wispy or

27:29 Speaker 3: ethereal in some way, And we have forgotten that spiritual

27:33 Speaker 3: things are tangible and can be tangible. Even when Jesus

27:37 Speaker 3: appeared to the disciples after his resurrection, they thought he

27:40 Speaker 3: was merely a spirit, and he proved to them that

27:43 Speaker 3: he was not a spirit by eating with them. So

27:45 Speaker 3: that's that was that was That's jesus theology on how

27:48 Speaker 3: you prove some things not merely a spirit. But if

27:52 Speaker 3: you take that, then back to Abraham and he sits

27:55 Speaker 3: down with angels, and what do they do? They eat

27:56 Speaker 3: with him, so angels can show up in a natural form.

28:00 Speaker 3: And then you mentioned I think you referenced the Genesis

28:02 Speaker 3: chapter six where you have angels in rebellion to God

28:06 Speaker 3: come down and mate with the daughters of men, creating

28:10 Speaker 3: a race of giants. So not only are they natural

28:13 Speaker 3: enough to have some sort of relations with human women,

28:18 Speaker 3: but they give birth to something that is entirely different.

28:21 Speaker 3: Could part of what we're seeing be this nephilum, this

28:25 Speaker 3: hybrid spiritual natural entity that is just as real and

28:30 Speaker 3: tangible as you and me in the earth. Could there

28:33 Speaker 3: be advanced nephelum civilizations that have advanced technology. All of

28:38 Speaker 3: that is within the biblical purview. So when we say,

28:41 Speaker 3: as Christians, and a lot of Christians will say, it's demons,

28:44 Speaker 3: it's demons, It's just demons. Even the Vice President came

28:46 Speaker 3: out and said aliens. I know, I think they're demons.

28:50 Speaker 3: And what they're saying is an oversimplification. What they mean

28:53 Speaker 3: is demonic. That's what they mean. And by demonic you

28:59 Speaker 3: get all these things from fallen angels demons. Even if

29:03 Speaker 3: you want to say demons are disembodied spirits of the

29:06 Speaker 3: nephilom or nephilum, actual hybrid beings. They could be a

29:12 Speaker 3: hybrid of technology mingled demonic technology mingled with human biology,

29:18 Speaker 3: cursed human beings. This is another one nobody ever talks

29:21 Speaker 3: about nebucan Has are cursed God, and he was literally

29:23 Speaker 3: turned into a beast for seven years. And so there's

29:27 Speaker 3: a lot of things within the biblical purview of what

29:30 Speaker 3: these things could be. So when we say demons, what

29:33 Speaker 3: most Christians meaning is just simply demonic, but certainly they're

29:37 Speaker 3: not benevolent. And that's kind of the warning we want

29:40 Speaker 3: to bring to this conversation because you have people like

29:43 Speaker 3: Stephen Greer, who I think truly believes what he's saying.

29:46 Speaker 3: He truly believes what he's saying is done extensive research,

29:49 Speaker 3: and there's some great research in what he's done. He

29:51 Speaker 3: thinks these are benevolent beings that we need to communicate with,

29:54 Speaker 3: and that fundamental Christianity who thinks these things are demonic

29:57 Speaker 3: are a threat to galactic peace.

30:00 Speaker 4: That's m hm.

30:01 Speaker 3: So could that be part of the in time deception?

30:04 Speaker 4: I don't know.

30:06 Speaker 2: And the one thing I've always actually I've been told

30:09 Speaker 2: this by other UFO researchers and media people, is anyone

30:14 Speaker 2: who's telling you it's all all and they have a

30:19 Speaker 2: PayPal link, turn around, walk away, get get as far

30:23 Speaker 2: away as you can. No one knows the whole truth.

30:26 Speaker 2: I mean, no one understands exactly every detail. And so

30:31 Speaker 2: when you use definitive statements like they're all benevolent, right,

30:36 Speaker 2: if they're all advanced past this idea of you know,

30:42 Speaker 2: acting in whatever in different self interest, whatever it be.

30:47 Speaker 2: If if that's what you're saying, you know, Steven Greer,

30:50 Speaker 2: I hate to break a tea. I just I don't.

30:56 Speaker 2: That is a very naive way to look at But

30:58 Speaker 2: also we can't say they're all demons either, right, Like

31:03 Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying.

31:04 Speaker 3: I think I think the Christian community is not unique

31:06 Speaker 3: in this area. It's social media, it's people in general.

31:09 Speaker 3: We are allergic to nuance and so we try to

31:12 Speaker 3: simplify things is as easily as we can as make

31:15 Speaker 3: it as digestible as possible. And the problem with saying

31:18 Speaker 3: it's just demons is people process that as a spiritual entity,

31:22 Speaker 3: that it's purely spiritual, and so what is going to

31:26 Speaker 3: happen then when they're confronted with real tangible entity, how

31:30 Speaker 3: are they going to explain that that going to affect theology?

31:34 Speaker 3: So that's why, yeah, you're right about that, what we

31:36 Speaker 3: do want to be cautious about. So when we When

31:38 Speaker 3: I talk about people attempting to make it too complicated,

31:42 Speaker 3: I'm not referring to how complicated it can be scripturally

31:45 Speaker 3: on what these things are. I'm referring to people who say, well,

31:48 Speaker 3: these things are actually benevolent and they're here to help us.

31:50 Speaker 3: And I think that's when we need to we need

31:54 Speaker 3: to watch out because in my research, these encounters with

31:57 Speaker 3: these entities always turn always turned bad, always turned really yeah, eventually.

32:06 Speaker 2: Tell me more. I mean, what do you what do

32:08 Speaker 2: you mean? What are you referencing here? People are coming

32:12 Speaker 2: to because I mean, you are who you are, right,

32:15 Speaker 2: So if I was someone who watched followed you, and

32:19 Speaker 2: I had a story, I would come to you, right,

32:23 Speaker 2: I would relay my story to you because you're someone

32:26 Speaker 2: I trust. You know, you're someone I listened to preach

32:29 Speaker 2: the gospel. If I am like religio, If I am religious,

32:34 Speaker 2: is that what we're talking about or are you talking

32:35 Speaker 2: about any personal experience?

32:39 Speaker 3: Well it started when I when I first began in ministry,

32:41 Speaker 3: I wasn't a preacher. I was a prayer So I

32:43 Speaker 3: ran a prayer center and I just prayed for people

32:46 Speaker 3: eight hours a day.

32:47 Speaker 4: What a job.

32:48 Speaker 3: By the way, what an honor too, to be able

32:49 Speaker 3: to stand in faith with people and partner with them

32:52 Speaker 3: in some of the most sensitive areas of their lives.

32:54 Speaker 3: And to start with, I began and I prayed for

32:57 Speaker 3: more than one hundred thousand people like that, one on one,

33:00 Speaker 3: not crowds, just one on one with people praying with them.

33:04 Speaker 3: And in that time I began to encounter people who

33:08 Speaker 3: had abduction stories and abduction experiences, and at first I thought,

33:14 Speaker 3: you know, these were just people who were unstable, until

33:18 Speaker 3: they began to pile up and align at the same time,

33:21 Speaker 3: across cultures, countries, creeds, denominations, races, it didn't matter. Their

33:27 Speaker 3: stories were just very, very similar, which which got me

33:31 Speaker 3: to be interested in the subject matter. And then twenty

33:34 Speaker 3: seventeen we had some disclosure took place. Twenty twenty. Of course,

33:38 Speaker 3: in the midst of that mess, they came out identifying

33:40 Speaker 3: these things as yes, these things are real, and nobody

33:42 Speaker 3: batter than I. So I really began to dig into

33:45 Speaker 3: this then. And of course when I released the book

33:47 Speaker 3: Something the Demon, it was like it gave people permission,

33:49 Speaker 3: as you said, to come talk to me. And it

33:53 Speaker 3: has been wild hearing these people's stories reputable people, sometimes

33:58 Speaker 3: people that everyone would know and recognize who there's a

34:02 Speaker 3: stigma attached to this, and so they don't want to

34:05 Speaker 3: come out in public and share these stories. But in

34:08 Speaker 3: each and every one they have many and varied experiences.

34:13 Speaker 3: But if they continued, it all turned really dark, really

34:16 Speaker 3: bleak side effects and the alignment. I even have a

34:19 Speaker 3: chapter in my book something that eme it about the

34:21 Speaker 3: comparison between alien abduction stories and stories of demonic possession,

34:26 Speaker 3: and it just it just overlaps almost seamlessly when you

34:30 Speaker 3: really begin to dig into those things. So, yeah, that's

34:32 Speaker 3: kind of been my journey in discovering this.

34:36 Speaker 2: These beings are real and they're visiting Earth by means

34:40 Speaker 2: unknown to us. How should Christians discern whether they represent

34:44 Speaker 2: genuine extraterrestrial reality? I actually you might have already answer

34:48 Speaker 2: this in a way. Interdimension interdimension entities are something more

34:53 Speaker 2: to say, like a trickster demon gin with a cultural

34:58 Speaker 2: name you want to give it.

35:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, it that's kind of The Catholic Church was having

35:06 Speaker 3: a conversation similar to do we baptize them or do

35:08 Speaker 3: they baptize us? You know, And it's it's an interesting

35:11 Speaker 3: it's an interesting it's it's the funnest conversation to have

35:14 Speaker 3: around the dinner table. But ultimately, I think Troy Brewer

35:17 Speaker 3: says it best. He says, the question isn't exactly what

35:19 Speaker 3: they are, because that's going to be a fun conversation,

35:21 Speaker 3: and who knows if we'll ever agree. Even if we

35:23 Speaker 3: saw a video of them on the White House, even

35:25 Speaker 3: if we saw with our own two eyes, how do

35:27 Speaker 3: we know it's not AI? How do we know it's

35:28 Speaker 3: not some sort of robotics? How do we know that

35:30 Speaker 3: what we're seeing is actually real? So the question isn't

35:33 Speaker 3: really what are they? The question is whose camp are

35:36 Speaker 3: they in? So are they in the Jesus camp or

35:39 Speaker 3: are they in the are they in Satan's camp? What

35:42 Speaker 3: message are they bringing? What do they say about Jesus Christ?

35:46 Speaker 3: And it's interesting many of them come uniquely with a message.

35:50 Speaker 3: They've come all the way from many star systems and

35:53 Speaker 3: galaxies and just to tell us Jesus was close but

35:56 Speaker 3: no cigar. Well that's that's a red flag. That's a

35:59 Speaker 3: red flag to me. But I think that is dividing line.

36:01 Speaker 3: What do they say about Jesus? That'll be what determines

36:04 Speaker 3: their mission.

36:06 Speaker 2: That is something I don't think I've actually ever thought

36:09 Speaker 2: about before. And it's crazy that you say that, because

36:12 Speaker 2: if oh my, I'm having like an existential moment right

36:17 Speaker 2: now actually thinking about this, because my God, if they

36:23 Speaker 2: came down and they said that Jesus was the way,

36:26 Speaker 2: I think I'd have to I'd have to be like,

36:30 Speaker 2: you know what, Jesus is the way. Jesus, Jesus is

36:33 Speaker 2: the way. But if they came down talking about Satan,

36:36 Speaker 2: I'd be very concerned. Ah, that's an interesting thought experience.

36:42 Speaker 3: Well, again, earlier Satan comes down as an angel of light,

36:46 Speaker 3: so he can change it.

36:47 Speaker 2: He was an angel of light, of course.

36:50 Speaker 4: And he can.

36:51 Speaker 3: He is technically, yeah, he can, so we see we

36:54 Speaker 3: see his description is interesting in the Bible that at first,

36:58 Speaker 3: when he is this anointed cherub that is a guardian

37:02 Speaker 3: of the presence of God, and he seems to have

37:03 Speaker 3: some role here on the earth, that even within him

37:06 Speaker 3: he's got musical instruments in his inner parts, that when

37:09 Speaker 3: he moves, it appears that even music flows out of them.

37:13 Speaker 3: And yet then when we see him in the Garden

37:15 Speaker 3: of Eden, he appears as a serpent. And then when

37:18 Speaker 3: we see him mentioned in the Gospels, he can show

37:20 Speaker 3: up as an angel of light, so he is able

37:22 Speaker 3: to change his appearance. Where we say appearance matters, doesn't matter.

37:26 Speaker 3: What matters is what is the message that's being brought?

37:29 Speaker 3: And if it is, Jesus was close, you know, he

37:32 Speaker 3: was one of us that could be what they're saying,

37:34 Speaker 3: and he was in tune with a lot of our message.

37:37 Speaker 3: But really what the real truth is, Well, then I'm out,

37:41 Speaker 3: I'm out.

37:43 Speaker 2: Right. And then you know what, I wouldn't blame you

37:47 Speaker 2: a point out. I just know that's I mean, that's

37:53 Speaker 2: a real ponderous question or thought, thought process. I guess

37:58 Speaker 2: maybe that is the what the briefing even boils down to,

38:02 Speaker 2: is these underlying questions that we really haven't thought about

38:07 Speaker 2: because we're so caught up in Look shiny object, right,

38:11 Speaker 2: Look this new information. Look this exciting cutting edge. But

38:17 Speaker 2: is it really exciting and cutting edge or it's been

38:20 Speaker 2: talked about and warned about in almost every culture across

38:24 Speaker 2: the globe, because I mean, there seems, at least to me,

38:31 Speaker 2: throughout history, almost every ancient culture has a story of

38:35 Speaker 2: gods right coming from the sky, They interact humanity, they

38:40 Speaker 2: maybe create or even influence civilizations and then they leave

38:44 Speaker 2: and they'vew to return narrative.

38:48 Speaker 3: It's the Nephila narrative that we see in every single culture,

38:50 Speaker 3: where these beings come down from come down from wherever

38:54 Speaker 3: they're coming down from, and there's these hybrid individuals that

38:57 Speaker 3: have supernatural capabilities, supernatural power, and that all stems from

39:03 Speaker 3: Genesis chapter six. We see it a second incursion. Somehow

39:06 Speaker 3: it happens again, and we have David and Goliath. We

39:09 Speaker 3: have the children of Israel trying to go into the

39:11 Speaker 3: Promised Land, but there are giants in the land. So

39:14 Speaker 3: this is this is consistent throughout scripture, and you see it,

39:17 Speaker 3: of course in the in the hybrid gods of the

39:20 Speaker 3: of the Egyptians. You see it in the mind culture.

39:23 Speaker 3: You see see this hybridization take place. And it's interesting

39:27 Speaker 3: Jesus predicted, as it was in the days of Noah's

39:29 Speaker 3: so shall it be in the days of the coming

39:31 Speaker 3: of the Son of Man that at the second coming,

39:33 Speaker 3: the conditions will be similar to when Noah was alive.

39:36 Speaker 3: And of course when Noah was alive in Genesis six,

39:38 Speaker 3: you have that hybridization taking place, these beings coming down,

39:42 Speaker 3: people becoming infatuated with them the giving birth to a

39:45 Speaker 3: race of giants. So there's some kind of genetic manipulation

39:48 Speaker 3: that's going on and just mass corruption. And here's the

39:52 Speaker 3: telltale sign men's hearts were evil continually. It wasn't just

39:57 Speaker 3: that men's hearts were evil, because we're all born in

40:00 Speaker 3: and we're shaped in iniquity. But it was the proximity

40:03 Speaker 3: of the evil thoughts in their minds that there's not

40:05 Speaker 3: even a moment of relief from evil. You're always thinking evil,

40:10 Speaker 3: and we're getting closer and closer to that, by the way,

40:12 Speaker 3: with devices like this, where we're just we're just constantly

40:15 Speaker 3: being inundated. But as it was in the days of Noah,

40:18 Speaker 3: which by the way, interesting when you look at nineteen

40:21 Speaker 3: forty eight, which is a fascinating year, you have a

40:25 Speaker 3: coarsination of Israel being reconstituted for the first time in

40:28 Speaker 3: two thousand years. In a day the Bible says, shall

40:31 Speaker 3: a nation be born in Today the gavel comes down

40:33 Speaker 3: in the inter nations of the inner Chambers of the

40:35 Speaker 3: United Nations. Israel becomes a nation. At the same time

40:38 Speaker 3: the Dead Sea Scrolls are being uncovered. I've transferred back

40:42 Speaker 3: into the possession of the Jewish people, And at the

40:44 Speaker 3: exact same time, you have an earthquake in the mountains

40:48 Speaker 3: of Ararat that uncurvas what we believe to be the

40:52 Speaker 3: ark of the Covenant. So all as it was in

40:54 Speaker 3: the days of Noah, so shall it be in the

40:56 Speaker 3: days of the coming of the Southern Man. I think

40:57 Speaker 3: that's just the beginning of the signs, as if God

41:01 Speaker 3: stopped watch started to take the count.

41:04 Speaker 4: In that moment.

41:05 Speaker 2: Right, what do you what do you make of you know,

41:11 Speaker 2: this narrative. I'm sure you you heard Steven Spielberg, you know,

41:16 Speaker 2: his film Disclosure Day just came out and he was

41:19 Speaker 2: saying how it's going to challenge uh people's religions. I mean,

41:24 Speaker 2: what do you make of comments like that? And then

41:27 Speaker 2: how it really doesn't it didn't really follow through, Like

41:31 Speaker 2: I don't think that movie will challenge anybody's faith. But

41:37 Speaker 2: there is a much larger conversation there obviously. This that's

41:41 Speaker 2: what this briefing is about. So do I mean, I

41:46 Speaker 2: just want to hear it from you. What what do

41:48 Speaker 2: you think we are dealing with here? And do you

41:50 Speaker 2: think that the United States government is in possession of

41:54 Speaker 2: any of these these craft that they that they used

41:59 Speaker 2: to move around out.

42:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe they are. I believe they are. And

42:05 Speaker 3: Grush just came out over the weekend as a matter

42:07 Speaker 3: of fact, yes, stating more in regard to disclosure that

42:12 Speaker 3: he has seen. Normally, when we hear these stories, it's

42:15 Speaker 3: I know, someone who told me we're getting, you know,

42:18 Speaker 3: more than second hand information, David Grush says, I've seen

42:21 Speaker 3: these photos myself. I'm aware of the wreckage. I've seen

42:24 Speaker 3: it with my own two eyes. And this is the

42:27 Speaker 3: issue now. One of the things that came one of

42:29 Speaker 3: the reasons why this is so difficult to get people

42:32 Speaker 3: to come forward. And this is what was shocking in

42:34 Speaker 3: the meeting that I was in, that they shared with

42:37 Speaker 3: us that in order and you know this, in order

42:39 Speaker 3: to get around for your request, in order to get

42:41 Speaker 3: around oversight, the United States government will actually create and

42:44 Speaker 3: operate through corporations separate from the government, so they're extent

42:49 Speaker 3: from those things. But here's even the more nefarious part

42:52 Speaker 3: of that is that true American heroes will go to

42:57 Speaker 3: work thinking they're working for the United States government and

43:00 Speaker 3: they'll be involved in things, potentially illegal activities, thinking that

43:05 Speaker 3: this is what the government has asked them.

43:06 Speaker 4: To do.

43:07 Speaker 3: And when they push back and they decide I'm not

43:09 Speaker 3: going to do this anymore or I'm going to blow

43:10 Speaker 3: the whistle. They find out then that they actually weren't

43:13 Speaker 3: working for the government. They were working for a corporation.

43:16 Speaker 3: Therefore whistleblower laws or protections don't apply to them, and

43:19 Speaker 3: so now they can't say anything unless they implicate themselves

43:24 Speaker 3: in the process. So it's very murky, very murky. It's

43:30 Speaker 3: a stranglehold scrub, it is, for sure.

43:34 Speaker 2: It's a way of bottlenecking the truth and really, like

43:38 Speaker 2: you said earlier, compartmentalizing and putting it into a silo

43:42 Speaker 2: where it can't escape from. And you know, when we

43:45 Speaker 2: start classifying reality, like imagine the government came out and

43:50 Speaker 2: said that, you know, angels didn't exist, or demons didn't exist,

43:54 Speaker 2: or God didn't exist. Like that's not their place to do,

43:58 Speaker 2: you understand, You see what I'm saying, Yes, you can't.

44:00 Speaker 2: That'd be like saying you know, and maybe not exactly

44:04 Speaker 2: like it. That's like passifying as a zebra, right or

44:08 Speaker 2: an alligator.

44:09 Speaker 3: I like alixator because that reminds me of these entities

44:11 Speaker 3: because people think that benevolent.

44:14 Speaker 2: Alligator right, right, no, No, it's it's hungry or it's

44:19 Speaker 2: that it So what do you what do you make

44:24 Speaker 2: of like topics like the Book of Enoch? Why why

44:28 Speaker 2: was this left out of the proper Bible when it

44:33 Speaker 2: could it could potentially open up that conversation and have

44:41 Speaker 2: it had opened up when it could have, it could

44:46 Speaker 2: have informed it could have informed us for many, many

44:48 Speaker 2: years at this point in getting us ready.

44:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the.

44:52 Speaker 3: Book of enic is a fascinating to read. I encourage

44:54 Speaker 3: every Christian to read the Book of Enoch. But there's

44:58 Speaker 3: such a mixture. Enoch is a sit of pigarful book,

45:01 Speaker 3: meaning it's a book claiming to be written by Enuch,

45:03 Speaker 3: but it wasn't actually written by Enuch. It was written,

45:05 Speaker 3: you know, century centuries, centuries later, maybe three hundred we're

45:08 Speaker 3: thinking maybe around three hundred BC, particularly in regard to

45:13 Speaker 3: the three paragraphs that we have from the Dead Seas

45:16 Speaker 3: culls confirming the existence of such a book. So it's

45:19 Speaker 3: hard to tell what Book of Enoch where people are referencing,

45:22 Speaker 3: when they're referencing, where did it actually come from? And

45:25 Speaker 3: how much of it is myth versus how much of

45:27 Speaker 3: it is true? So when you're looking at the Book

45:29 Speaker 3: of Nic. It was never considered to be scripture, never

45:31 Speaker 3: considered to be scripture by the Jewish people, never considered

45:34 Speaker 3: to be scripture by Jesus. He never references it. In fact,

45:38 Speaker 3: he's after he's been resurrected. When he's talking about himself

45:43 Speaker 3: to the disciples. The Bible says he goes from Moses

45:45 Speaker 3: all the way through the prophets. Well, if he was

45:48 Speaker 3: including the Book of Nich, it would have said he

45:49 Speaker 3: went from Enoch all the way through the prophets. And

45:52 Speaker 3: when you look at the Decalogue, for example, or the

45:54 Speaker 3: Word of God that was included in the arc of

45:57 Speaker 3: the Covenant. If the Book of Innuch was hail as

46:00 Speaker 3: divine inspiration, it would have pre existed Moses and it

46:03 Speaker 3: would have been included. Now, there's no question that the

46:06 Speaker 3: teachings of Nich, the life of Enich, the story of Enich,

46:09 Speaker 3: was passed down through the generations. We see that, of

46:12 Speaker 3: course through the writings of Moses as well, and there

46:14 Speaker 3: were probably additional teachings that were passed down. So he

46:18 Speaker 3: was probably revered. He probably spent three hundred years with Adham.

46:21 Speaker 3: Think about that. Adam lived to be nine hundred and

46:23 Speaker 3: whatever years of age. Enoch probably spent around three hundred

46:27 Speaker 3: years with Adam, and he was a prophetic voice during

46:29 Speaker 3: his time. And so a lot of people try to

46:32 Speaker 3: claim Enich. You have Enoke in magic. I think many

46:34 Speaker 3: in the Mason Mason community attempt to claim him as

46:38 Speaker 3: an originator. But the Bible has some interesting things to

46:42 Speaker 3: say about him. But the Book of enic was never

46:43 Speaker 3: considered actual inspired scripture. It was more considered, oh, here's

46:48 Speaker 3: kind of the myth, the legend surrounding these stories. What's

46:52 Speaker 3: will what's not? We don't really know in the Book

46:55 Speaker 3: of Enuch. So that's the reason why it was never

46:58 Speaker 3: really included in scripture. But it is to know what

47:00 Speaker 3: they were talking about back then and how they thought

47:03 Speaker 3: about these things because they had access to this writing.

47:07 Speaker 2: Almost like supplemental rather than the main. The main thing

47:12 Speaker 2: that makes I'm comfortable with that answer it something I've

47:18 Speaker 2: been thinking about a lot, and for anyone watching right now, three,

47:21 Speaker 2: I'm kind of just like skipping through and hitting a

47:23 Speaker 2: lot of main points. Is we only have an hour,

47:26 Speaker 2: and we're already at that like almost that hour mark.

47:30 Speaker 2: So I'm going to get him back. I'm going to

47:32 Speaker 2: get the bishop back on for a long form conversation.

47:35 Speaker 2: But this is kind of hitting all bullet points you

47:39 Speaker 2: brought up AI. A lot of people have been talking about,

47:42 Speaker 2: even guy like Joe Rogan have made the comparisons between

47:46 Speaker 2: say a Christ and AI and this idea of like

47:55 Speaker 2: immaculate conception. Do you what's what's your gauge on on AI?

48:03 Speaker 2: And you know whether it's demonic or from from from

48:07 Speaker 2: Hell or like some people claim, what's your take on

48:11 Speaker 2: AI in general?

48:13 Speaker 3: Well, Christians are always late adopters, you know, when the

48:16 Speaker 3: TV came out, he said, look at those Look at

48:18 Speaker 3: that antenna, that's the horns and the cable, that's the

48:20 Speaker 3: table devil. It's demonic. Yeah, everything's demonic. And as a result,

48:24 Speaker 3: we get behind the eight ball and we're not able

48:26 Speaker 3: to use it for the glory of God. So we're

48:28 Speaker 3: always we're always asking the question, how's the devil going

48:30 Speaker 3: to use this thing? And we never asked how does

48:32 Speaker 3: Jesus want to use this thing, you know, for the

48:34 Speaker 3: glory of God? And people will say, well, the Antichrist

48:36 Speaker 3: is going to use it to advance his agenda. I

48:38 Speaker 3: agree with you. He's also going to use guns to

48:40 Speaker 3: advance this agenda. But you're not taking mine either. It's

48:43 Speaker 3: just a tool. It's just a tool. And even if

48:46 Speaker 3: it was demonically inspired, we have a pattern throughout history.

48:51 Speaker 3: Goliath and the giants of Gath, they had advanced technology

48:55 Speaker 3: over the nation of Israel, in their in their iron,

48:58 Speaker 3: in their swords. And what David did is he and

49:01 Speaker 3: sheath glias On's sword and separated his head from his shoulders.

49:04 Speaker 3: He used enemy technology against him. Hayman in the story

49:07 Speaker 3: of Esther built gallows in order to destroy the people

49:11 Speaker 3: of God, and in the end he was hanging from

49:13 Speaker 3: the gallows he created. So God has a pattern of

49:16 Speaker 3: taking what the enemy creates and turning around and using

49:19 Speaker 3: it as a weapon against the enemy. When it comes

49:21 Speaker 3: to artificial intelligence, I don't think there's any question that

49:24 Speaker 3: it is going to be used for nefarious purposes. But

49:28 Speaker 3: until then we need to be using it to advance

49:31 Speaker 3: the Kingdom of God. But when we think of here's

49:34 Speaker 3: an interesting thought I had just the other day. Six

49:36 Speaker 3: six' six, right, that is the number of the beast. Yeah,

49:38 Speaker 3: the mark of the beast. Those numbers three, six's six

49:43 Speaker 3: represents humanity, three represents perfection. So what we're seeing is

49:48 Speaker 3: the peak of human achievement. That's what the Antichrist will be.

49:51 Speaker 1: He will be.

49:52 Speaker 3: He may even be some sort of Nephelum type entity

49:54 Speaker 3: with maybe he's got an early adopter to neuralink and

49:58 Speaker 3: he can appear to be supernaturally. You even will be supernatural,

50:01 Speaker 3: but even appear to be with technology. But six sixty six,

50:04 Speaker 3: what that means is peak human achievement. What is going

50:08 Speaker 3: to happen as a result of AI? We have reached officially,

50:12 Speaker 3: this is my prediction, peak human achievement. What is going

50:15 Speaker 3: to happen the moment you're no longer driving your own

50:18 Speaker 3: car you have AI assisting you. Well, within a few months,

50:22 Speaker 3: are you going to be a better driver or a

50:23 Speaker 3: worse driver? Well, you're going to be a worst driver.

50:26 Speaker 3: And that's going to be the case for so many things.

50:30 Speaker 3: We have reached the peak of human achievement and now

50:32 Speaker 3: it's just going to start to go downhill because we

50:34 Speaker 3: have AI doing our thinking for us.

50:38 Speaker 2: Just like you know, people used to peep. I know,

50:42 Speaker 2: you know, I might look young, but I'm thirty thirty three.

50:45 Speaker 2: I lived in a world pre Internet. People used to

50:49 Speaker 2: drive with no GPS, people used to remember phone numbers

50:53 Speaker 2: and then and actually you weren't even really allowed to

50:58 Speaker 2: use a calculator in math alone, you know whatever they're

51:03 Speaker 2: using now, like my little brother when he was in

51:05 Speaker 2: high school, like they were letting them use their phone

51:08 Speaker 2: in the internet in school, like at their desk, and

51:11 Speaker 2: it's like we were. We were barely allowed to use

51:15 Speaker 2: a T nine calculator on a map. What do you

51:18 Speaker 2: and now everyone all that information? I can't remember a

51:21 Speaker 2: phone number to save my life, I can't.

51:25 Speaker 4: I couldn't get forget map quests.

51:27 Speaker 3: I had the you know, the big unfold I had

51:29 Speaker 3: to travel across the country with big maps that you

51:31 Speaker 3: got to unfold and get hoped.

51:33 Speaker 2: That was my dad's a mover, so he had every

51:38 Speaker 2: one of those books because he was like.

51:40 Speaker 3: Jack Sparrow navigating the nation with the map.

51:47 Speaker 2: It's so good. Do you think is it possible? I

51:54 Speaker 2: know it's no one knows when the end of times

51:59 Speaker 2: is only they say only God knows the exact moment

52:03 Speaker 2: or the exact time. But looking around, I can't help

52:07 Speaker 2: but think, and maybe everybody thinks this way. If the

52:10 Speaker 2: Bible is correct in saying that there will be an

52:13 Speaker 2: end of times, I look around, and I see the

52:16 Speaker 2: world on fire, people more bided than ever. You can't

52:21 Speaker 2: trust what's real or not. So many other things. I mean,

52:26 Speaker 2: I could list them on and on and on.

52:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're exactly right.

52:32 Speaker 2: Does it not? Yeah? Does it not? Is it not

52:36 Speaker 2: reminiscent at least of what the Bible says in terms

52:41 Speaker 2: of the end of time and what it might look like?

52:43 Speaker 4: Yeah?

52:43 Speaker 3: I wrote a book called They Lied to You About

52:45 Speaker 3: the Rapture, which I was concerned with people in my

52:47 Speaker 3: own camp and I'm a believer in the Rapture, but

52:49 Speaker 3: they were misrepresenting it. So heineously, I thought, we need

52:51 Speaker 3: to address this, and as I researched it, one of

52:54 Speaker 3: the most shocking things I found was thirty five to

52:56 Speaker 3: forty two percent of Americans believe we're living in the

52:58 Speaker 3: last days. There's not thirty five to forty two percent

53:01 Speaker 3: of Americans that are practicing Christians, so there's a large

53:06 Speaker 3: swath of people who believe we're in the en times.

53:08 Speaker 3: And even more shocking, I believe it's eighteen percent of agnostics,

53:12 Speaker 3: nine percent of atheists believe we're living in the last days.

53:16 Speaker 4: So what is that?

53:17 Speaker 3: It means that they're picking up on exactly what you said.

53:21 Speaker 3: Everyone regardless of their background, is getting this sense that

53:24 Speaker 3: this is not normal what we're seeing, this is not natural,

53:27 Speaker 3: this is not normal. That's evil. And so people are

53:31 Speaker 3: beginning to ask this question. And I think that when

53:33 Speaker 3: you see what we mentioned earlier, this confluence or this

53:37 Speaker 3: convergence of what appears to be Bible prophecy being fulfilled,

53:40 Speaker 3: from the Nation visual being re established, Noah's art being rediscovered,

53:44 Speaker 3: a whole host of prophecies concerning the Nation visual all

53:47 Speaker 3: falling into play. It's hard not to say we could

53:52 Speaker 3: be the generation and people mock and scoff at that.

53:55 Speaker 3: But even one of the prophecies that Peter gave, he said,

53:58 Speaker 3: there will come in the last day Scott for saying, Ah,

54:00 Speaker 3: every generation said.

54:01 Speaker 4: Everybody said that.

54:02 Speaker 3: And so when you start to talk about this, people say, yeah,

54:05 Speaker 3: every generation said that. And my response is you're right

54:08 Speaker 3: until you And now we have this mass mocking of

54:12 Speaker 3: the subject matter, which I think is fulfillment a Bible

54:15 Speaker 3: prophecy itself. So I do believe we are living in

54:18 Speaker 3: the last days. I think it's one of the most

54:19 Speaker 3: consistent commands in the New Testament. Twenty two times explicitly

54:24 Speaker 3: it says you better watch for be ready, be ready

54:27 Speaker 3: in any moment. Jesus could return at any moment, and

54:30 Speaker 3: I think we're in that any moment period.

54:33 Speaker 2: Do you think the Antichrist is honored at this moment?

54:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe he's alive right now.

54:37 Speaker 3: Of course, I believe he's the Satan always has an

54:40 Speaker 3: Antichrist because Satan doesn't know the time or this is.

54:42 Speaker 3: He's always trying to accomplish this mission. So he's always

54:47 Speaker 3: got someone or in place. Yeah, he's always got candidates

54:52 Speaker 3: that he's trying to put in place. But there's something

54:54 Speaker 3: holding him back. There's salt and there's light. Salt holds

54:58 Speaker 3: back decay. Light holds back darkness. So every time he

55:02 Speaker 3: almost accomplishes it, the light rises and overcomes him. The

55:06 Speaker 3: salt enters in and holds back the decay. But there's

55:09 Speaker 3: coming a time when that salt, that light will be

55:11 Speaker 3: removed and he'll be able to do what he's desired

55:14 Speaker 3: to do from the beginning.

55:16 Speaker 2: Well, last question. Megalic structures around like the Age prove

55:22 Speaker 2: Ballbeck Turkey. They show technology and precision that some say

55:28 Speaker 2: is just simply way beyond human capability at the time.

55:33 Speaker 2: Do you see any biblical or spiritual connection between these

55:35 Speaker 2: ancient achievements impossible non human influence.

55:40 Speaker 3: Well, of course, the narrative is we're getting smarter and smarter, right,

55:44 Speaker 3: Humanity is evolving and we're getting smarter and smarter and smarter.

55:47 Speaker 3: And these these structures, these ziggurats, these megalithic structures, are

55:51 Speaker 3: proving the exact opposite that we have advanced technology. Not

55:55 Speaker 3: only that they had beyond their ears, we don't know

55:57 Speaker 3: how they did it. Even to this day, we don't

56:00 Speaker 3: know how they did and built many of these structures

56:02 Speaker 3: and moved many of these stones and placed them with

56:05 Speaker 3: the precision that they placed them. So I think that

56:09 Speaker 3: shows that proves the biblical narrative, even when you go

56:13 Speaker 3: back to the Tower of Bible where you see this

56:15 Speaker 3: construction attempting to build a portal to heaven. So yeah,

56:18 Speaker 3: I do think that this could be evidence of advanced

56:22 Speaker 3: intelligence and that human beings are always attempting to partner

56:27 Speaker 3: with it, even at the cost of their own souls.

56:29 Speaker 3: You know, they told us that the government operates in

56:32 Speaker 3: these silos. Some believe that these are benevolent beings. They

56:35 Speaker 3: truly do believe that that we should partner with. But

56:37 Speaker 3: then there are others within the government think of this,

56:39 Speaker 3: who believe these are demonic, that these are demons, but

56:43 Speaker 3: they are still willing to partner with them in exchange

56:46 Speaker 3: for influence, for money, for power.

56:48 Speaker 4: That's what we're dealing with.

56:50 Speaker 2: And well, look at like the Epstein stuff, exactly right,

56:54 Speaker 2: and these are separate conversations. No they're not. And that's

56:59 Speaker 2: the dirty true that no one wants to get into.

57:01 Speaker 2: A lot of people in the UFO community don't want

57:03 Speaker 2: to touch it with a tempt pole because it's so

57:06 Speaker 2: dark and and and dirty. I hate to say it.

57:11 Speaker 2: The look at what he was interested in? Gravity? Why

57:16 Speaker 2: did he have all these scientists, Why was he hanging

57:19 Speaker 2: around Why was he hanging around the ranch at the

57:23 Speaker 2: at the ranch trying to pick up scientists who lost

57:26 Speaker 2: their funding? Why? Why why is it that Glene macdwell

57:31 Speaker 2: Uh had a these Norwegian Nordic looking assistants and their

57:36 Speaker 2: hair would consistently disappear from the dreams in the shower?

57:39 Speaker 2: What what is it that that was really going on?

57:42 Speaker 2: Because obviously the child stuff that was that was obviously

57:46 Speaker 2: one aspect of it. But what was large pit, what

57:50 Speaker 2: was the larger pad, What was his what was his achievement?

57:54 Speaker 2: What did he want to see happen? I think some

57:57 Speaker 2: sort of I mean I can't pretend to know, but

58:01 Speaker 2: I can't imagine it was it was going to be

58:03 Speaker 2: a good thing.

58:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a traffic element to this that causes an

58:08 Speaker 3: overlap something. That's where these entities want to experiment on

58:14 Speaker 3: human beings. Some say that they see us as vessels.

58:17 Speaker 3: Some researchers have said that they see us as vessels.

58:20 Speaker 3: Others say what they're actually experimenting on is our soul.

58:24 Speaker 3: Others say they're creating these representative Matt Gate said, there's

58:30 Speaker 3: these hybridization programs.

58:32 Speaker 2: So do you think they do that work among us? Yeah,

58:37 Speaker 2: and to let us let our guard down, let these things,

58:42 Speaker 2: let these things into some degree.

58:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. And it's all a distraction. It's all

58:46 Speaker 3: a distraction. Look over here, don't pay attention. There's no god.

58:50 Speaker 3: You're not accountable to any god. Actually, there's no god,

58:54 Speaker 3: alien seated life on this planet. So we're not accountable

58:57 Speaker 3: to any creator for our behavior. We just our lineages.

59:00 Speaker 3: Actually them, and they'll show us the way. They'll show

59:02 Speaker 3: us right.

59:04 Speaker 4: With them.

59:05 Speaker 2: Morality is a choice being, but is a choice right,

59:09 Speaker 2: It's not something that is necessary Once that's off the table.

59:13 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a scary thought. Bishop. I'd love to

59:18 Speaker 2: have you back on. I know we have a very

59:20 Speaker 2: short limited time today. If there's one thing from the

59:23 Speaker 2: thank you, there's one thing from the briefing and the

59:25 Speaker 2: meeting that you that you could that we didn't touch

59:30 Speaker 2: on that is there something that you want people to

59:33 Speaker 2: know that isn't getting a lot of attention.

59:37 Speaker 3: Just that the Bible has the most interesting and true

59:41 Speaker 3: narrative about this subject matter. And I want to encourage

59:43 Speaker 3: pastors and church leaders. Number One, we need to fight

59:46 Speaker 3: for disclosure. We need to make sure even if you know,

59:49 Speaker 3: even when we get disclosure, we're not going to get

59:51 Speaker 3: everything that we want, but we need to fight for it.

59:53 Speaker 3: Number Two, pastors need to begin preaching and teaching from

59:55 Speaker 3: their pulpits what the Bible says about these entities and

59:59 Speaker 3: about the believers authority. And I don't want anybody listening

1:00:02 Speaker 3: to this to be fearful. We're not saying this to

1:00:04 Speaker 3: scare you. We're saying this to prepare you. When we

1:00:06 Speaker 3: talk about the end times, I don't want you to be.

1:00:08 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to sensationalize or fear monger it because

1:00:11 Speaker 3: if you're if you trust in Jesus Christ, the end

1:00:13 Speaker 3: times aren't happening to you. You're happening to the end times.

1:00:15 Speaker 3: It's completely inverted. And so the real message is who

1:00:18 Speaker 3: are you trusting in? And are you trusting in Jesus

1:00:21 Speaker 3: for your eternal salvation. If you'll do that, you can

1:00:23 Speaker 3: have peace even in these turbulent times, and victory and

1:00:27 Speaker 3: authority in the name of Jesus.

1:00:29 Speaker 2: Wow. Well, like I said, I'd really love to have

1:00:33 Speaker 2: you back on for a proper you know, like a

1:00:36 Speaker 2: long form maybe even fly into Boston. Uh, sit down

1:00:41 Speaker 2: in the studio. Yeah. I have a lot of questions.

1:00:44 Speaker 2: I mean I have a lot of real, real questions

1:00:47 Speaker 2: about you know, like, well, for Jesus, how do people

1:00:51 Speaker 2: get into heaven? That kind of stuff, stuff that if

1:00:55 Speaker 2: I get out of church, like they won't talk to

1:00:57 Speaker 2: me anymore. When I introduced the idea of you know

1:01:00 Speaker 2: what I mean, so I have I'm a very natchal

1:01:03 Speaker 2: curious person and I do have lots of questions and

1:01:08 Speaker 2: you know, exorcisms like I'm what ever seen you know,

1:01:12 Speaker 2: have you seen one like, what does it look like?

1:01:14 Speaker 2: What does it sound like? You've you've seen them, you.

1:01:18 Speaker 4: Have performed hundreds, hundreds.

1:01:20 Speaker 2: Oh all right, we're bringing you in.

1:01:24 Speaker 4: I will for one hundred thousand people.

1:01:27 Speaker 3: You encounter a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff,

1:01:29 Speaker 3: especially when around the world as we have.

1:01:32 Speaker 2: Oh man, I have so many questions now and I've

1:01:35 Speaker 2: now I'm hyped up. But where can people find? I

1:01:38 Speaker 2: know you do? Uh? You you do the internet? So

1:01:43 Speaker 2: you have uh an internet based mystery that you preached through.

1:01:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a church in Charlotte, North Carolina called Revival.

1:01:52 Speaker 2: You have a mortar too though, Yeah.

1:01:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been pastoring for nearly a quarter of a century,

1:01:57 Speaker 3: been in full time ministry for a quarter of a century.

1:02:00 Speaker 4: And we have a website.

1:02:01 Speaker 3: We have a strong online ministry and reach tons of

1:02:04 Speaker 3: free resources. But you can go to Revival Nation dot

1:02:07 Speaker 3: com even in a store. We've got some free books.

1:02:09 Speaker 3: And when you go on the website Revopination dot com,

1:02:12 Speaker 3: there's even a section on the homepage there with is

1:02:14 Speaker 3: all kinds of alien UFO, uIP information, teachings, articles, stuff

1:02:18 Speaker 3: that you'll be blessed by.

1:02:20 Speaker 2: So check it out, all right, and uh to everyone

1:02:23 Speaker 2: listen watching Thank you. It's a bit of a shorter segment,

1:02:26 Speaker 2: but again I have now I really really want to

1:02:30 Speaker 2: keep going. But we'll we'll we'll teasey here, we'll end

1:02:33 Speaker 2: it here. We'll definitely be hearing more from the bishop.

1:02:38 Speaker 2: And I really thank you for taking the time tonight.

1:02:40 Speaker 2: I know you have another show you get to jump on, though.

1:02:43 Speaker 2: Thanks again for your time and for your service, your service.

1:02:47 Speaker 2: It's you know, I know we didn't get talk about

1:02:49 Speaker 2: it a lot, but you know I havn't been InCAR.

1:02:53 Speaker 2: You know, found your way. I think that is such

1:02:56 Speaker 2: a beautiful story just by itself. So uh, you know,

1:03:01 Speaker 2: you give people inspiration and you keep their inspiration alive

1:03:04 Speaker 2: on a daily and that is service with no guarantee,

1:03:07 Speaker 2: and I respect that no matter what religion it comes from.

1:03:11 Speaker 2: So thank you and do you everyone out there, We'll

1:03:15 Speaker 2: see you on the next one.