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1:33 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Total Disclosure. We got a

1:37 Speaker 2: very very special one today. As you can see to

1:41 Speaker 2: my left or your right, veto Perfect Storm Gaming.

1:45 Speaker 3: What's the UFO general called the UFO is It's just

1:48 Speaker 3: it's just Veto, but it's Veto UFO seventy six.

1:51 Speaker 2: Okay, that's stupor easy. Remember Veto UFO seventy six. And

1:57 Speaker 2: we got the man, the myth, the legend, the producer

2:00 Speaker 2: of TV paging Sticko over on the other side of

2:03 Speaker 2: the room. We have a fantastic show this weekend on Saturday,

2:10 Speaker 2: and it turned out that it all kind of aligned

2:15 Speaker 2: so that we could all be here. You know, drove

2:18 Speaker 2: up from where he lives. So we thought, ship we're

2:21 Speaker 2: all together, might as well do our Thursday live show

2:24 Speaker 2: in the same room, right. I think this is a

2:27 Speaker 2: really unique opportunity for us all to be you know

2:32 Speaker 2: again not maybe the intimate is not the right word,

2:34 Speaker 2: because you guys are gonna make fun of me. But

2:42 Speaker 2: last live show, we had a we had a weird

2:46 Speaker 2: thing happened, so we had.

2:50 Speaker 3: Since the last show.

2:53 Speaker 2: There was the metal after. But there's definitely some topics

2:57 Speaker 2: I want to get to today. I want to say

2:59 Speaker 2: thank you for the b to be here or for

3:01 Speaker 2: being here today. And last time we were here, last

3:06 Speaker 2: time we were together, we touched that metal. So I

3:09 Speaker 2: think a lot of people, at least on the show.

3:11 Speaker 2: I know you've been doing updates on spaces and stuff,

3:14 Speaker 2: but how are you? Uh?

3:16 Speaker 4: But are you feeling perfectly normal?

3:20 Speaker 1: Really?

3:21 Speaker 5: I mean, did you see when I when I when

3:22 Speaker 5: I went to his house today?

3:23 Speaker 3: I go, bro, I'm hobbling because I wrenched my back

3:26 Speaker 3: coming up here, and this guy is doing fucking carts,

3:29 Speaker 3: kicks things and bowling around. I'm like, are you serious.

3:32 Speaker 4: I've never seen him so mobile. Couldn't believe it. No,

3:34 Speaker 4: it's been you know, I've kind of gotten over the

3:39 Speaker 4: feeling of like waiting for the other shoe to drop

3:41 Speaker 4: and and go away. Yeah, it's always like this self

3:45 Speaker 4: check thing. Right, I can imagine because again, right, you know,

3:50 Speaker 4: I've been so not totally immobile, but my mobility has

3:57 Speaker 4: been so limited over over the last three years that

4:03 Speaker 4: you know, it's like I start going into you know,

4:06 Speaker 4: start with like twelve fifteen minute walks, you know, just

4:09 Speaker 4: sort of around. We went sort of the big tests.

4:13 Speaker 4: I guess you'd call it was you know, for our

4:16 Speaker 4: anniversary the end of July, we went uh to the

4:19 Speaker 4: Gardener Museum in Boston, which you know was great, and

4:25 Speaker 4: we're you know, over an hour walking around up and

4:29 Speaker 4: down the old stone steps of one of those old

4:33 Speaker 4: mansions so hard.

4:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, like even it hurts me to do that kind

4:37 Speaker 2: of war.

4:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, it's like I kind of feel,

4:41 Speaker 4: you know, and and again, I'm retired anyway, right, so

4:44 Speaker 4: like I don't have a whole lot of places I

4:46 Speaker 4: go in general. And you know, even at the peak

4:50 Speaker 4: of health, I wasn't you know, looking to run marathons

4:54 Speaker 4: or you know, I pretty much planned retirement was I

4:56 Speaker 4: was gonna sit sit around on my ass and do

4:58 Speaker 4: whatever I wanted kind of thing. It's nice to do

5:02 Speaker 4: it now without the pain, right, because I don't.

5:05 Speaker 2: Want to get too like caught up in this so much,

5:09 Speaker 2: because I don't want to. I feel like we got

5:12 Speaker 2: a good thing going. I don't want to think yeah, right,

5:15 Speaker 2: but you don't. You had mentioned one thing to me,

5:19 Speaker 2: and I was like, could this be Ple's evo?

5:23 Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't matter. It doesn't yeah, it doesn't matter.

5:26 Speaker 4: I mean the thing about it for me is and

5:29 Speaker 4: I've described it to you, you know, privately, and you

5:32 Speaker 4: know it's come up in spaces, right Like I never

5:37 Speaker 4: felt bad about what was happening to me, right, I

5:40 Speaker 4: never when it's started, and I was like, oh, you know, okay,

5:44 Speaker 4: is it temporary? Is it permanent? What's this? You know?

5:46 Speaker 4: Is it going to get progressive? And the doctors are like,

5:49 Speaker 4: we've just got to monitor it, We've got to sing

5:52 Speaker 4: because for the last thirty years, little by little things

5:58 Speaker 4: have happened, right like, things have started going wrong, and

6:02 Speaker 4: we know a lot of it was attributed to toxic exposures, golf,

6:06 Speaker 4: you know, the Gulf War syndrome stuff. Yeah, exactly. So

6:11 Speaker 4: it's one of those things like I've always just been

6:15 Speaker 4: you know, we're dealing with anyway. So the idea that

6:20 Speaker 4: it's like, okay, well now it's you know, affecting mobility.

6:23 Speaker 4: And and again it's not like I had to be

6:25 Speaker 4: helped anywhere really, right, you know, it was just sort

6:28 Speaker 4: of if we're going somewhere along, I need to be

6:30 Speaker 4: in the chair, if you know, socializing stuff like that.

6:34 Speaker 4: I can't stand and work a room. I got to

6:36 Speaker 4: roll around the room. Now, great, I'll deal with it

6:39 Speaker 4: the way, you know, what I mean. Yeah, And like

6:42 Speaker 4: I said, for you know the people who were you know,

6:44 Speaker 4: oh you know, geez, that's good. Listen. I had a

6:48 Speaker 4: great fucking time getting there, right, if it was my

6:51 Speaker 4: time to get into it, I had a good time

6:53 Speaker 4: getting there, you know.

6:56 Speaker 2: I it's weird. It's even weird for me, know you

7:00 Speaker 2: when I still see you in the wheelchair, like when

7:02 Speaker 2: you are in the wheelchair, it's like it's like, well,

7:05 Speaker 2: it still takes me back.

7:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see you a lot.

7:08 Speaker 2: It was my point, You're not it a lot, you

7:11 Speaker 2: know now, especially now I haven't even seen.

7:15 Speaker 4: You, not even with the right because I had the

7:18 Speaker 4: balance and and you know, some stability stuff too, so

7:22 Speaker 4: you know that's the whole thing placebo effect.

7:24 Speaker 2: So we touched some mon talk medal, right.

7:26 Speaker 4: So it's not I wasn't seeking healing, right, I wasn't

7:31 Speaker 4: one of these like, oh I got to find a

7:33 Speaker 4: way to get healed. I got to find a way

7:34 Speaker 4: to get healed. Number one, number two. He never claimed

7:38 Speaker 4: that it had any powers or you know, did it.

7:42 Speaker 4: He was just like people hold this and they feel weird.

7:45 Speaker 3: Shit really, So he didn't come here because I didn't

7:48 Speaker 3: get to watch the show so he didn't come like, oh,

7:50 Speaker 3: touch this metal, it's a magic you know what I mean, Like.

7:53 Speaker 4: There was no He gave time one piece and you know,

7:57 Speaker 4: it was like, okay, you know, tell me, do you

8:00 Speaker 4: feel anything right? And he didn't even tile tie what

8:03 Speaker 4: the piece was. And Ty's like, oh, you know, I

8:05 Speaker 4: feel like some clarity. Oh I feel something in my head.

8:08 Speaker 4: Oh you know, And and he had like this and

8:11 Speaker 4: he's explained in it and again not my thing, right,

8:15 Speaker 4: It's not like again not that I don't believe in

8:19 Speaker 4: it or I've never experienced it, and I don't put

8:23 Speaker 4: a whole lot of stock in stock in you know,

8:27 Speaker 4: the whole thing. But Ty sitting there tis like oh

8:29 Speaker 4: my god. This. So I was just like, all right,

8:32 Speaker 4: well Ty, I want to see you know, well, give

8:35 Speaker 4: me a piece. Let me try it. If Ty's feeling

8:37 Speaker 4: you know, all this shit. Oh, so you touched it first,

8:40 Speaker 4: so it was almost the debunking thing. Then the guy

8:43 Speaker 4: gives me a different piece and as soon as he

8:47 Speaker 4: handed it to me, I was like, oh that's weird.

8:51 Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, I felt this energy, this heat,

8:56 Speaker 4: like this heat energy in my fingers.

8:59 Speaker 2: Also, now I know you don't watch the show you

9:00 Speaker 2: piece it.

9:01 Speaker 5: I just didn't watch that episode.

9:04 Speaker 4: That's the one episode, yes, that one, And then I

9:08 Speaker 4: felt this tingling in my neck, right, and I'm like, oh,

9:13 Speaker 4: I feel this tingling, you know, and he's like yeah,

9:16 Speaker 4: and then I just and then they were like, you know,

9:19 Speaker 4: I'll just sit with it. So I was like, all right,

9:21 Speaker 4: I just kind of sat with it, handed it back

9:23 Speaker 4: to the guy finished the show, right, So it's not

9:27 Speaker 4: like there was a wondrous moment. It wasn't until I

9:31 Speaker 4: was leaving and they were taping for the members section

9:37 Speaker 4: and I was leaving only because it sort of become

9:40 Speaker 4: became my routine that.

9:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think there's something to actually drilled down

9:43 Speaker 2: on you were leaving. You always leave before the members

9:47 Speaker 2: because you're back and shit started something because you're sitting

9:50 Speaker 2: so long.

9:50 Speaker 4: Right, because we spend you know, I mean we're here

9:52 Speaker 4: four or five hours, right, it's like a full day,

9:56 Speaker 4: and you know, and it is it's a bit of

9:58 Speaker 4: up and down for me adjusting camera and shit like that.

10:01 Speaker 4: So my habit was right. It was like by the

10:04 Speaker 4: time they finished, I, you know, the main episode, it's like,

10:08 Speaker 4: I feel like I did my job. So I'm gonna

10:11 Speaker 4: take off, and it's normally, I hobble downstairs, I get

10:15 Speaker 4: to the car, I get home, I hobble in, I

10:18 Speaker 4: get to the couch, and that's it. And and so

10:21 Speaker 4: that's what happened. And it wasn't until I hit the

10:25 Speaker 4: bottom of the stairs where I realized like I had

10:30 Speaker 4: kind of bounced down the stairs, right, it was kind

10:34 Speaker 4: of like normal. And then I yelled for time, and

10:38 Speaker 4: then I like went out. I like walked to the

10:40 Speaker 4: car and walked back and I'm like self checking myself.

10:44 Speaker 4: And that's when I yelled, dude, I thought something terrible happened.

10:49 Speaker 2: Me and Ja.

10:50 Speaker 4: That's how I yelled.

10:50 Speaker 2: We looked at each other and I go, oh, like

10:53 Speaker 2: I I was I probably mid jumped out of the

10:57 Speaker 2: chair because I was like, dude, sounding bad happened. That's

11:01 Speaker 2: how he yelled, like something like like guttural scream. And

11:05 Speaker 2: I was like, Jesus, I thought he fell down the

11:07 Speaker 2: stairs or I was gonna come up to a dead body.

11:09 Speaker 2: And I come up to him just like eyes glowing,

11:12 Speaker 2: and he's just like running up and down.

11:16 Speaker 4: I grabbed him. I'm like because I can see like

11:20 Speaker 4: like he's looking into like he's looking for whatever this

11:23 Speaker 4: horrible thing was, and I literally grabbed him. I'm like, dude,

11:27 Speaker 4: watch this. I'm like, watch me walk. That was so wed.

11:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, you sent you sent the video on the group

11:33 Speaker 3: chat to go, wait a minute, what the what the

11:36 Speaker 3: fuck happened? So to answer my question, might just ask

11:38 Speaker 3: how many days ago? This two weeks But it's the

11:41 Speaker 3: day after we did the.

11:42 Speaker 5: Weird ghost thing. It was the day after the Lives.

11:43 Speaker 3: It was Thursday, and it was the Friday then, right, Well,

11:45 Speaker 3: because we had an episode Saturday, we had an episode

11:49 Speaker 3: on Saturday.

11:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, we moved the live Thursday show to Friday that week.

11:55 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, So move the live show to Friday.

11:58 Speaker 4: Next day, you guys feel the next day we.

12:00 Speaker 2: Filmed with Mike and that's when it happened. That was

12:02 Speaker 2: two weeks ago.

12:03 Speaker 5: We were talking about that.

12:04 Speaker 3: We were in the group chat, we were talking about

12:05 Speaker 3: the ghost thing, and then all of a sudden, you

12:07 Speaker 3: get that video, go what the fuck is going on?

12:10 Speaker 4: You know, that was the guest. So he's never you know,

12:13 Speaker 4: I just meet him that you know, afternoon. We're going

12:16 Speaker 4: through all this and you know, so he doesn't like

12:18 Speaker 4: get what's going and we're explaining and he's sitting there

12:22 Speaker 4: like now he.

12:23 Speaker 2: Texts me like three times a week asking how Gene is.

12:27 Speaker 2: I don't blame him, yeah, he's like because he's like

12:29 Speaker 2: he's like invested in it. So what that metal was

12:32 Speaker 2: was the Sage radar tower at Montalk, which is what

12:36 Speaker 2: The Stranger Things is based on, right, and this he

12:41 Speaker 2: is he again he tells me. At first, he doesn't

12:43 Speaker 2: say anything, he just says, you see it right at

12:46 Speaker 2: the end of the episode, he kind of you. He

12:48 Speaker 2: has a yellow bag with him and I kind of

12:52 Speaker 2: noticed him pulling out, but I'm getting towards the end

12:54 Speaker 2: of the episode he hasn't done anything with it yet,

12:55 Speaker 2: and I go, all right, so like you know, start like,

12:58 Speaker 2: you know, what's your plugs? And he's like, before we

13:01 Speaker 2: do that, I can't forget. And then he just goes

13:05 Speaker 2: so I'm not really gonna say anything much about it,

13:07 Speaker 2: but will you hold this? And I go okay, and

13:12 Speaker 2: you kind of I kind of laughed it off. I

13:14 Speaker 2: grabbed the metal and he just kind of says to

13:17 Speaker 2: sit with it, and not five second, five ten seconds in,

13:24 Speaker 2: I just feel this vibration through my chest. Move start

13:28 Speaker 2: moving up, moving up the back of my spine, the

13:30 Speaker 2: base of my spine up through the top of my head,

13:33 Speaker 2: and then like you ever had one of those massage

13:35 Speaker 2: or things. Yeah, it felt like something was like it

13:38 Speaker 2: felt like I was connected to something that was invisible,

13:41 Speaker 2: like I had a visible tether to me, and then

13:43 Speaker 2: I was getting like I seeing clearly, and then as

13:47 Speaker 2: soon as that metal was out of my hands, back

13:50 Speaker 2: to normal.

13:51 Speaker 4: Really, so you didn't have any last I didn't have

13:53 Speaker 4: anything like him. Did you touch the same thing he touched?

13:56 Speaker 2: We touched tep set, the same metal, different piece. What

14:01 Speaker 2: do you mean, like this same same structure from.

14:05 Speaker 4: The same metal, but t different pieces.

14:09 Speaker 5: Okay, and then you never touched his piece and you.

14:11 Speaker 2: Never Actually, that's a good one even.

14:13 Speaker 3: Though that that's the after show guys on only fans

14:19 Speaker 3: cross and Jean's barefoot.

14:22 Speaker 4: And ready to go today to save that for the members.

14:25 Speaker 2: No, we never actually did touch each other's other.

14:31 Speaker 4: You guys, did you guys didn't doc?

14:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't touch tips. But Mike's bringing Mike won't

14:38 Speaker 2: mail it, he will not put it in the mail.

14:41 Speaker 4: Okay, that's what that's what whistling.

14:43 Speaker 2: Mike just asked, He asked.

14:45 Speaker 3: And then we have u A p gurb two point

14:46 Speaker 3: o in the chat. By the way, Hello, he wants

14:47 Speaker 3: you to be topless. I'm that serious. Say no more

14:53 Speaker 3: who you're asking?

14:54 Speaker 4: Damn, it's coming open.

14:55 Speaker 2: The Sage radar tower ran every frequency from a little

15:00 Speaker 2: I will.

15:00 Speaker 4: Start rip it off it.

15:06 Speaker 3: Zoom in w A p garb two point zero every

15:09 Speaker 3: looking at you.

15:13 Speaker 2: Every sequence of frequencies that ran through mon talk ran

15:17 Speaker 2: through that radar, ran through that metal that we touched.

15:20 Speaker 2: So is it some residual, like does it have its

15:24 Speaker 2: own because everything The reason my hand doesn't go through

15:26 Speaker 2: this fan is because we were vibrating at the same frequency.

15:32 Speaker 2: Theory is that it has a different resonant frequency.

15:36 Speaker 4: And here's the other thing again, to sort of on

15:39 Speaker 4: the placebo effects stuff, right, My my limits of knowledge

15:45 Speaker 4: of mon talk is that the series Dark and Stranger

15:50 Speaker 4: Things are based on it loosely.

15:54 Speaker 5: Legitimate whatever line disease comes from there.

15:56 Speaker 4: So for for real, well I'm saying that's all I

15:59 Speaker 4: know about it. So after this happened, I was on

16:02 Speaker 4: X and in Spaces and I know, like, like Eric

16:05 Speaker 4: Hecker knows a lot of I'm like, somebody needs to

16:08 Speaker 4: explain to me what this thing is what this you know,

16:13 Speaker 4: so this is the satellite thing it cam'p hero. What

16:16 Speaker 4: does that means?

16:17 Speaker 5: What that thing was getting? What they were using it for?

16:20 Speaker 4: Portals? You don't know, there's no idea. If it's in

16:23 Speaker 4: this show, it's probably been tried. And so what I'm

16:25 Speaker 4: saying though when people are like, well, you know placebo effect,

16:28 Speaker 4: you knew it was a Montra, but again I don't.

16:30 Speaker 4: I don't. It should have worn off. I now, I

16:32 Speaker 4: don't know all of that history to be affected by it. Right.

16:39 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, if it's like I could hand

16:42 Speaker 4: you a sacred stone from the Hill of Crosses in Lithuania,

16:47 Speaker 4: that is very you know to me, like oh my,

16:50 Speaker 4: you know I got this at the Hill of Crosses.

16:52 Speaker 4: You know you have to hold like you don't have

16:54 Speaker 4: a connection to that or knowledge of it or you know,

16:57 Speaker 4: the history or something like that. So not like you're

17:01 Speaker 4: gonna be like, well, that's a beautiful rock, thank you,

17:03 Speaker 4: you know, I see it's special to you.

17:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like taking a consideration that we are going

17:08 Speaker 2: through this at the same time, I'm not affecting his

17:15 Speaker 2: like it's all still new to me. At the same

17:18 Speaker 2: it's new to both of us at the same time. Yeah,

17:20 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, We're not influencing each other's decisions.

17:23 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to ask and bring it up.

17:25 Speaker 2: How you're feeling. Sounds like you're feeling pretty good.

17:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, again, perfectly normal. It is normal in the sense

17:34 Speaker 4: it's the absence of k chronic.

17:38 Speaker 5: Did you did you bring your wheelchair or your cane today?

17:42 Speaker 4: They're actually both still in the back of my.

17:43 Speaker 5: Car, Okay, so you did bring them?

17:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because I was going to say, like, you're

17:47 Speaker 3: so confident with this ship that you're literally walking around

17:50 Speaker 3: without it.

17:51 Speaker 4: Nuts the only difference. So the wheelchair is always there, right,

17:55 Speaker 4: it's powerchair. I keep it plugged in, you know, to

17:57 Speaker 4: the jeep and fucking thing. Three hundred pounds, sixty pounds,

18:01 Speaker 4: that's all of it. So it's just oddly shaped. But

18:06 Speaker 4: I but you know, you guys have been in the

18:07 Speaker 4: car with me, right, I always have the cane in

18:10 Speaker 4: the passenger seat, you know, so I get whacking people

18:12 Speaker 4: getting in you're getting in and out or throwing it

18:14 Speaker 4: at trucks. Whatever said that I put in the back.

18:20 Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, I couldn't believe I show up

18:23 Speaker 3: to your house. Like I said, I'm hobbling because I

18:25 Speaker 3: twined my back driving up here, and then you're like

18:27 Speaker 3: walking in and that's what I said, twenty five year

18:29 Speaker 3: old man.

18:29 Speaker 4: Like those first couple of days, the first couple of days,

18:33 Speaker 4: the main sensation was like I felt like I needed

18:35 Speaker 4: to stretch a lot, right, and that was like number

18:38 Speaker 4: one thing. I'm like, I, you know, like I've never

18:42 Speaker 4: like yeah, back to like and then you know, after

18:45 Speaker 4: walking you know, ten fifteen minutes or whatever, Oh, I

18:49 Speaker 4: would get sore in the sense of like I just

18:53 Speaker 4: finished a workout, right, so I had like aches in

18:57 Speaker 4: the but they were gone.

18:58 Speaker 3: Because you haven't used those fis you know, whatever, it

19:02 Speaker 3: goes away.

19:03 Speaker 4: Same thing like I know there's arthritis and you know

19:06 Speaker 4: my hit oh yeah, so you know every now and

19:09 Speaker 4: then that kind of reminds me that it's there. But

19:12 Speaker 4: you know, as you normal, right, as you guys have

19:15 Speaker 4: seen it's been generally, any significant movement, amount of time

19:20 Speaker 4: on my feet, you become assistance. Yeah, it becomes debilitating.

19:27 Speaker 2: So I gotta ask you, as this has everyone seen

19:33 Speaker 2: the stuff with you Apager and Ross.

19:37 Speaker 4: Coltart, No, that's what I'm saying.

19:39 Speaker 3: I don't have time to watch anything like I legit

19:41 Speaker 3: it not because I didn't want that, literally, I have not.

19:43 Speaker 3: I've been following it on Twitter. But when I see

19:46 Speaker 3: stuff like that, I'm just like, no offense anybody. If

19:49 Speaker 3: it doesn't have to do with disclosure, whistleblower, amnesty or

19:53 Speaker 3: aliens and UFOs, I don't really care about it.

19:55 Speaker 2: How would you say that's not about UFOs.

19:58 Speaker 3: Because it's drama, bullshits these two guys with a pissing

20:01 Speaker 3: contest one.

20:02 Speaker 4: You know what, That's how I see it. I'm this

20:04 Speaker 4: and I'm that.

20:05 Speaker 3: It's like, dude, it has nothing to do disclosure, cut

20:07 Speaker 3: it out and get along. Yeah it's bullshit, but but okay,

20:11 Speaker 3: just get along?

20:12 Speaker 2: Or saying that, So what is what is he saying

20:16 Speaker 2: about Alexondo. He's saying that, he's saying that Alexondo is

20:20 Speaker 2: essentially a legacy program and we can get into what

20:27 Speaker 2: we can get I know where you want to go

20:28 Speaker 2: with that.

20:29 Speaker 4: Well, and he's even saying I wouldn't even say it's

20:32 Speaker 4: that saying Gerb saying people have told him. But let

20:37 Speaker 4: me ask you guys a question.

20:38 Speaker 3: Would that surprise either of you if it comes out

20:40 Speaker 3: that Loue Alesando did have connections to the legacy. He's

20:43 Speaker 3: never denied it. He's just said I can't say that.

20:45 Speaker 3: I can't answer that question unless it's in a skift.

20:48 Speaker 5: He's never said on.

20:49 Speaker 2: Because he did an interview with Vinny from Disclosure Team,

20:52 Speaker 2: a friend of mine where Alexando comes back at gerb So.

21:02 Speaker 2: And the reason I bring this up is, you're right,

21:04 Speaker 2: it is drama. But the reason I bring it up

21:07 Speaker 2: is because Alexander took time to respond to it, which

21:11 Speaker 2: is different, right because now you got Coltart involved. Coltart's

21:17 Speaker 2: a big name now and.

21:19 Speaker 4: And talking about you see what I'm going with.

21:27 Speaker 2: There's a fracture that's beginning, and well it's been happening

21:31 Speaker 2: for a long time.

21:32 Speaker 3: Well supposedly between Crush and Alexando and this one and

21:35 Speaker 3: that one.

21:35 Speaker 2: Well, it seems like it seems like it it seems

21:37 Speaker 2: like there is a very much of a divide between

21:41 Speaker 2: the the officials that are in the community and then

21:46 Speaker 2: the podcaster, researcher investigator side where it's like they used

21:52 Speaker 2: to idolize guys like that and now you know, for me,

21:57 Speaker 2: it kind of feels like, did Alexando say something to

21:59 Speaker 2: one of these guys and they're just like like they

22:02 Speaker 2: they're like the story is worth more than the relationship

22:07 Speaker 2: because I've heard some stuff that al Zando said off

22:09 Speaker 2: the record. I haven't heard it in public yet, but

22:14 Speaker 2: I feel like it's coming But is it?

22:16 Speaker 3: But is it story or is it truth? And these

22:17 Speaker 3: guys are just telling the truth? I don't know.

22:19 Speaker 2: See, that's the thing is like how how much do

22:21 Speaker 2: you trust Gerb? How much? Why isn't Jesse Michael's weighing

22:24 Speaker 2: in on it when he's doing interviews with Doan Borland?

22:27 Speaker 4: Why Island?

22:27 Speaker 3: Why is it Borland weighing in on and he likes

22:29 Speaker 3: them both right, So that's where that's what I don't

22:32 Speaker 3: And that's the other thing too. Borland's big, Okay, Borland's

22:33 Speaker 3: a huge fan of Dave, he's a huge fan of Aleixando,

22:36 Speaker 3: and he's a huge fan of Gerb. He said it,

22:39 Speaker 3: but so like then he stays in the middle, So

22:41 Speaker 3: like where does that leave him? And like its just

22:43 Speaker 3: it doesn't make logistical sense to have this going on.

22:46 Speaker 5: It's unnecessary you go.

22:49 Speaker 4: Through it because you're you're almost at the answers.

22:56 Speaker 2: You're just not talking ourselves through it.

22:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, you're talking to your sell through it

23:01 Speaker 4: and you're on your way there. No.

23:03 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is this, with all that we

23:05 Speaker 3: have going on right now, you have actual disclosure happening,

23:08 Speaker 3: which is what's happening in my opinion. You've got doctor

23:10 Speaker 3: Phil being walked out to basically break it to the

23:12 Speaker 3: everyday idiot so they don't kill themselves and housewives.

23:16 Speaker 5: That's the truth.

23:16 Speaker 3: That's that's that's how I see it, and how people

23:18 Speaker 3: can't see this. He is the soft, the the bubble,

23:22 Speaker 3: the buffer. So that way when this ship starts getting

23:25 Speaker 3: real and weird, herom doctor Phil, and I'm gonna explain it,

23:28 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's how I see it.

23:30 Speaker 3: He's the guy they're bringing out to to slow walk it.

23:33 Speaker 3: You now, to slow walk it.

23:35 Speaker 4: Think about the timing of that, and think about.

23:38 Speaker 3: And you've got all these trances that are being released,

23:41 Speaker 3: I think disclosures coming and you can't stop it. And

23:43 Speaker 3: I think what they're doing is confusing and stupid.

23:46 Speaker 4: But think about the timing, okay, and think about the

23:51 Speaker 4: timing of this issue.

23:59 Speaker 2: Raising seventeen real hot, not even.

24:02 Speaker 4: Not even then. I'm just saying, right, now that we're

24:06 Speaker 4: starting to see we're seeing this movement right, which is

24:11 Speaker 4: essentially being driven by the executive branch, right, and you're

24:16 Speaker 4: seeing the doctor Phil come.

24:18 Speaker 2: Forward, and it was doctor Phil, you.

24:22 Speaker 3: Got your Yeah, you've got this now mainstream science and

24:30 Speaker 3: you have the the yeah.

24:32 Speaker 4: But but but here's here's hold on, because we're there.

24:36 Speaker 4: I'm doctor filling you on this, doctor Phil, catch me outside.

24:39 Speaker 5: How about that.

24:43 Speaker 4: We've got we've got this movement of the pursue, the

24:49 Speaker 4: Scientific Advisory Council, and a below jumping in. You know,

24:54 Speaker 4: the discussion. You've got the movement, the resignation of Tulsea Gabbard,

25:01 Speaker 4: and a new Odie and I that starting.

25:06 Speaker 3: But you asked somebody in there, Yeah, new dog Samuel Tricks.

25:10 Speaker 4: So you've had somebody else in there. You've got the

25:14 Speaker 4: executive branch, you know, being Trump, let's say, bringing doctor

25:20 Speaker 4: Phil in to this net. So you're answering your own

25:24 Speaker 4: question because all of these guys were a cohesive unit,

25:31 Speaker 4: seemingly until movement started. That started bringing in new people

25:39 Speaker 4: and new figures. And when those new people and new

25:43 Speaker 4: figures start entering the picture, everybody starts feeling a little

25:48 Speaker 4: bit more insecure about their own position. Steven Greer, the

25:56 Speaker 4: president example. Okay, so everybody starts getting a little bit

26:01 Speaker 4: more insecurity about what they mean and their importance to

26:07 Speaker 4: the issue. Then you add, what about me? Is this

26:11 Speaker 4: idea of we're going to they're they're doing the NDA

26:15 Speaker 4: process now, and there's a path through arrow, and there's

26:20 Speaker 4: a path through pursue, and there's the UAPs are now

26:26 Speaker 4: it's like there's a prize.

26:30 Speaker 5: Okay, so who's going to be the guy?

26:32 Speaker 4: I get it, I get it.

26:33 Speaker 3: There, let's put your egos and that's what I mean

26:35 Speaker 3: that that's not it's stupid. Put your egos aside enough,

26:38 Speaker 3: and it's not about you. It's about the movement and

26:40 Speaker 3: about the people.

26:41 Speaker 5: That's how I see it.

26:42 Speaker 4: That's how you see it.

26:43 Speaker 3: But I know, I get, I get that's how they

26:45 Speaker 3: the public.

26:46 Speaker 4: Wants it to be there. You know, disclosure is a

26:51 Speaker 4: means to the end to an end for them, and

26:55 Speaker 4: that end is not disclosure in the way that the

27:00 Speaker 4: public in the community talks about it. Right, They each

27:07 Speaker 4: have incentives that are aligned which disclosure can help and

27:19 Speaker 4: gives them the platforms to do what they're trying to do.

27:26 Speaker 4: But none of it has to do with truth. None

27:30 Speaker 4: of it has to do with you know, what humanity

27:34 Speaker 4: needs to know and all the rest of it. It

27:37 Speaker 4: is on the one side, which you'll call it out

27:41 Speaker 4: your grush Carl Nell, Sean Kirkpatrick versus your loo and

27:50 Speaker 4: Jay Stratton and even Mellon and the people who are

27:56 Speaker 4: much more still connected to the institution and who's see

28:04 Speaker 4: their responsibilities still to the institutions and helping them manage

28:12 Speaker 4: disclosure as opposed to the other side, which is much

28:16 Speaker 4: more commercially motivated, and they are they are looking for

28:24 Speaker 4: enough disclosure to democratize the the the financial rewards that

28:33 Speaker 4: are available.

28:35 Speaker 2: And kind of being source contract.

28:39 Speaker 4: Right now, it's right now, it's this small, this small

28:43 Speaker 4: group they've seen the opportunity for Oh, this can be

28:48 Speaker 4: much bigger. But you know, some of the secrecy has

28:52 Speaker 4: to be broken.

28:53 Speaker 3: People are going to be rich instantly when this ship

28:55 Speaker 3: comes out with what it is that we've got. I

28:57 Speaker 3: get it, I get it entirely. But the problem is this,

29:00 Speaker 3: It's not it's like the egos have to stop because Okay,

29:03 Speaker 3: so here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking Elizona must have

29:06 Speaker 3: done some shit, and I'm not allegedly. And this is

29:08 Speaker 3: what I'm assuming based off of the ship that everyone

29:11 Speaker 3: says or rumors, et cetera about what he did in

29:13 Speaker 3: his past. He must have been into some really fucking

29:16 Speaker 3: dark ship that he was doing. And that's why guys

29:18 Speaker 3: like Grush don't want him being the face of it.

29:20 Speaker 2: That's what the UFO R is. Not the first czar

29:23 Speaker 2: he's been.

29:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

29:24 Speaker 5: I know he's tortures are and I know he's done

29:26 Speaker 5: some dark ship.

29:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent allegedly allegedly, And is what I'm saying.

29:31 Speaker 3: If I use common sense and assume that he has

29:33 Speaker 3: done these things, just like I'm gonna use common sense

29:36 Speaker 3: and assume that he is a part of the Legacy

29:37 Speaker 3: program or was at some point a part of Crash Retrievals,

29:40 Speaker 3: et cetera, and some way shape or formers was what

29:42 Speaker 3: I believe that he was. I think that's why Dave

29:44 Speaker 3: Grush don't want him being the u A p z R.

29:46 Speaker 4: Because agreed, you don't you don't need a I mean,

29:50 Speaker 4: I think you're putting too much value on the moral imperatives,

29:54 Speaker 4: you know, or the morality of any of these guys

29:57 Speaker 4: that that you know they care particular, particularly if they've

29:59 Speaker 4: been in the military.

30:00 Speaker 3: But I don't see like that.

30:02 Speaker 4: What they're upset about. What they're upset about is the power.

30:09 Speaker 2: Because even when you talk about like guys like Borland

30:12 Speaker 2: and again, no offense to go for them your opinion

30:16 Speaker 2: on them to them right now, no offense Dylan and Matthew.

30:21 Speaker 2: But you see these companies consistently popping up Vanguard Skywatcher.

30:29 Speaker 2: That's like the next They're all trying to do something

30:33 Speaker 2: that we're not seeing. It's and I'm trying to figure

30:36 Speaker 2: out what that is. And it sounds like, I mean,

30:39 Speaker 2: what is Vanguard?

30:41 Speaker 4: What are they?

30:42 Speaker 2: That's the whistleblower?

30:43 Speaker 3: Yes, that's exactly what that is. It's for funding the

30:45 Speaker 3: whistleblower so they can have a safe avenue.

30:47 Speaker 2: Who's gonna fund the whistleblowers? This would all be donation

30:50 Speaker 2: based almost.

30:51 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so there it's a found date.

30:52 Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna pay them, but they need to pay

30:54 Speaker 2: their salaries per well.

30:56 Speaker 4: I don't know how it's working. I mean, they haven't

30:58 Speaker 4: laid all they haven't laid all that out yet. But

31:00 Speaker 4: my understanding and if you look at it in the

31:02 Speaker 4: way that because there's already there's already something called the

31:06 Speaker 4: whistle Blowers Fund.

31:07 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know who runs that? Did you see

31:10 Speaker 5: who runs that?

31:11 Speaker 4: Because again but again that guy, because whistle blowers aren't

31:16 Speaker 4: exclusive to the U A P issue. They exist throughout

31:20 Speaker 4: all of government and things like that, right, So you know,

31:24 Speaker 4: an organization like that, and I would I would think

31:29 Speaker 4: that Van Guyard is very much, you know, handing in

31:31 Speaker 4: a similar direction, but is going to be more specific

31:35 Speaker 4: to the U A P issue. You know, first and

31:39 Speaker 4: foremost there are things you know, like legal assistance.

31:44 Speaker 2: The.

31:46 Speaker 3: Medical I forget and what is it the medical? When

31:48 Speaker 3: they harm medically they're they're.

31:51 Speaker 4: Right, so I forget what they getting those benefits. I

31:54 Speaker 4: forget what is doing right. So so they're you know,

31:58 Speaker 4: they're looking at a structure that supports those basic fundamentals.

32:04 Speaker 5: Lawyers and again stuff like that.

32:06 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it becomes you know that it's they're

32:09 Speaker 4: looking forward to be some sort of you know, supplement

32:12 Speaker 4: to unemployment insurance. But you know, I would imagine the

32:17 Speaker 4: responsible thing to do is have some sort of program

32:21 Speaker 4: that matches people with employers who are sensitive.

32:24 Speaker 5: To their Yeah, I think I think that's what they're

32:26 Speaker 5: looking to do.

32:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know things like that.

32:28 Speaker 2: Well, that's I guess, so you can't put that in

32:29 Speaker 2: the same bracket.

32:30 Speaker 3: As like, no, no, no, this is not That's what

32:33 Speaker 3: I was gonna tell you know, this is if if

32:35 Speaker 3: I'm saying, if, if, what they're if, what I'm reading

32:38 Speaker 3: and what I've seen about it and what I've been

32:41 Speaker 3: told about it, it's a good thing.

32:43 Speaker 5: It truly is so.

32:44 Speaker 3: And and if and that's if they're going to be

32:46 Speaker 3: on the level and and and not and I and

32:48 Speaker 3: and from the minute the minuscule contact that I've had

32:53 Speaker 3: with the two of them and Jeffrey Nukatelli, they seem

32:55 Speaker 3: like stand up guys to me.

32:56 Speaker 4: That's my opinion.

32:59 Speaker 2: You see jesse My Goes interview with Dylan.

33:01 Speaker 4: Yes, it was outstanding.

33:02 Speaker 2: They talked about some I want to get some of

33:04 Speaker 2: what they talked about, because I mean, Dylan's now a

33:09 Speaker 2: lot more open. It seems something happened. I think it's this.

33:13 Speaker 2: I think it's because apparently O. D. And I.

33:18 Speaker 3: It's big, But.

33:19 Speaker 2: There's a big CrOx here. There's a variable that doesn't

33:24 Speaker 2: sit right with me, I suppose. And so what we're

33:27 Speaker 2: saying is O. D. And I or someone who represents

33:31 Speaker 2: the O D and I told Corbell about Project Rubik's

33:37 Speaker 2: Cube and that Dylan.

33:40 Speaker 5: To see if him yes about it, yes, and.

33:43 Speaker 2: Then specifically had something to do with the drawing of

33:48 Speaker 2: like Project Rubiscuban, then the pyramid and the hieroglyph, which

33:53 Speaker 2: is classified, which is a wild thing. I agree to classify.

33:57 Speaker 2: If it is classified, that's crazy. You just gave your

34:00 Speaker 2: end up by doing something like that.

34:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's how you know what's to be true. Yeah.

34:04 Speaker 3: But so there was there was four about it all, No,

34:09 Speaker 3: there was, there was, there was rumor to be four.

34:12 Speaker 3: They they lied, allegedly, they lied to Jeremy Corbell and

34:16 Speaker 3: said there was four drawings that Dylan made, not three.

34:18 Speaker 4: Four.

34:18 Speaker 5: There wasn't four.

34:19 Speaker 3: They said he drew a sensor system. And that was

34:21 Speaker 3: the thing to try and entrap Jeremy Corbel, to trick

34:24 Speaker 3: him into saying whether or not Dylan did it, like

34:26 Speaker 3: we know he did it, we know, blabblah bob.

34:28 Speaker 4: This is the fourth thing.

34:29 Speaker 3: Dylan never drew four allegedly, according to him, he never drew.

34:32 Speaker 4: He never drew.

34:33 Speaker 3: He's like, I wouldn't even know how to draw a

34:34 Speaker 3: fucking sensor system.

34:35 Speaker 4: How do you even draw that he.

34:37 Speaker 3: Drew a pyramid that the pyramid the freaking I'm assuming

34:41 Speaker 3: he drew the ship that had the the the outside

34:45 Speaker 3: uh lava lamp texture, and I'm assuming he drew the

34:48 Speaker 3: power source and the hieroglyph are the and whatever the

34:52 Speaker 3: hell product groups cubes are the three things that he drew.

34:55 Speaker 5: They lied and said there was a fourth.

34:56 Speaker 2: I am just so confused because did Dylan have a

35:01 Speaker 2: sighting or did he eventually get brought into something so

35:08 Speaker 2: much deeper? And that's what we're not hearing about. Is

35:12 Speaker 2: he implying that he was.

35:13 Speaker 3: Part of something he didn't imply He outwardly said he worked.

35:17 Speaker 4: While he was active duty, he had a sighting. Then

35:22 Speaker 4: after leaving active duty and he went into the contracting world.

35:28 Speaker 4: It wasn't that he was brought in. As he was

35:32 Speaker 4: sharing his experience with this sighting, somebody assumed that he

35:37 Speaker 4: had been read into a program that had something to.

35:42 Speaker 5: Do whatever because he knew a lot with because he.

35:48 Speaker 4: Because he knew he sort of knew a lot and

35:52 Speaker 4: and then went and you know, and started asking.

35:56 Speaker 3: Questions, and because because he because the one of the

36:00 Speaker 3: reasons he knew a lot, And I found this out

36:02 Speaker 3: from my conversation with limb Old Logan was Logan said Dylan,

36:07 Speaker 3: and Dylan even said it in his interview today that

36:08 Speaker 3: he was big on those message boards or whatever that

36:11 Speaker 3: they were all talking in. Is supposedly like one of

36:13 Speaker 3: the biggest growing message boards that there is was the

36:16 Speaker 3: UF for the Weird One, which is what Logan said,

36:18 Speaker 3: he'll probably talk about it during your interview. Yeah, and

36:22 Speaker 3: that's what he was saying, is Dylan was involved in

36:24 Speaker 3: that stuff. So I assume, and I'm gonna think that

36:29 Speaker 3: Dylan was contracting with something.

36:30 Speaker 4: Now.

36:30 Speaker 5: I don't think that he was a part of the

36:32 Speaker 5: UAP Task Force.

36:32 Speaker 4: I don't think that.

36:33 Speaker 3: At all, but I think he supported them in some way,

36:35 Speaker 3: shape or form.

36:36 Speaker 4: No, he still had the job that had to do

36:37 Speaker 4: with the Yes.

36:39 Speaker 5: Yeah, well no, he did drun, He flew the drones.

36:43 Speaker 3: He did a lot of the drones stuff, and then

36:45 Speaker 3: he knew about the drones from twenty twenty four.

36:47 Speaker 5: So I'm assuming that Dylan.

36:49 Speaker 3: Was either watching the drones in some way, shape or form,

36:52 Speaker 3: or he was I think it was something to do

36:55 Speaker 3: with recovery.

36:55 Speaker 4: That's what I think.

36:56 Speaker 3: I think he worked on the side with recovery, because

36:58 Speaker 3: he said, I have direct firsthand knowledge of crash retrievals,

37:01 Speaker 3: crash retovery blah blah blah blah blah, and the power source.

37:04 Speaker 3: How else would you know that unless you've done it,

37:06 Speaker 3: or you've seen it, or you've.

37:07 Speaker 6: Worked with it, or you supported it in taking it

37:10 Speaker 6: and something that, you know, whatever, it was, right, So,

37:14 Speaker 6: you know, but I think the idea of you know,

37:19 Speaker 6: I'm so confused.

37:20 Speaker 4: Good, that's exactly what they intend because again.

37:25 Speaker 3: You know that Wait, I'm sorry, what did you just say?

37:27 Speaker 4: Ty said, you know, uh, well, you know, I'm confused.

37:30 Speaker 4: I said, good, Yes, achieve their goal.

37:32 Speaker 3: No, but if you listen, it's not so much you

37:33 Speaker 3: achieved his goal. Is he literally tells you everything. You

37:37 Speaker 3: have to listen. No, but they all do, even Lakatski.

37:39 Speaker 3: If you listen to that third interview, that dude tells

37:42 Speaker 3: you fucking everything. Right, we've had disclosure, you're just not

37:45 Speaker 3: seeing it. You're getting disclosure with these briefs, these these

37:48 Speaker 3: freaking trances.

37:49 Speaker 4: Well, right, we're just not seeing the well, you're not

37:52 Speaker 4: seeing the you're not seeing the meat. You're not seeing

37:54 Speaker 4: the meat and potato.

37:55 Speaker 3: Right, And like Logan said that the little twenty thirty

37:58 Speaker 3: second clips them ships are even it's long. Yeah, and

38:01 Speaker 3: and the and the guy watching it. And that's also

38:04 Speaker 3: what I think. I think Dylan was also one of

38:05 Speaker 3: those people monitoring platforms watching for this ship, and he'd

38:08 Speaker 3: probably hit up Logan and go, yo, check check camera,

38:10 Speaker 3: blah blah blah.

38:12 Speaker 5: And this is what I'm assuming. It's all allegedlies. I've

38:13 Speaker 5: been told.

38:14 Speaker 7: Any of this, I'm not.

38:15 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not revealing. This is what I'm assuming.

38:17 Speaker 3: And I'm basing this off of conversations or things that

38:20 Speaker 3: I've not conversation I've had, but things that I've seen

38:23 Speaker 3: or things that he said with that interview that he

38:25 Speaker 3: was I listened to it almost twice a day.

38:26 Speaker 4: It was outstanding.

38:27 Speaker 3: Holy shit, you haven't you haven't heard yet.

38:30 Speaker 4: No, because again, I I'm coming at the issue from

38:34 Speaker 4: an entirely dive.

38:37 Speaker 3: I know you're looking at a different You're like, you're

38:39 Speaker 3: not you're not a skeptic, but you look at I'm

38:41 Speaker 3: more of Oh my god, I'm more of a believer

38:43 Speaker 3: because of the ship that i've right, and that's.

38:45 Speaker 4: What I believe, one hundred percent right. But I I'm

38:52 Speaker 4: sort of imposed a little bit of self discipline and

38:56 Speaker 4: self rest.

38:56 Speaker 3: You look at it from what you do for me,

38:58 Speaker 3: he did a profession.

38:58 Speaker 4: I get it exactly, you know.

39:00 Speaker 3: And I'm looking at it from an experiencer who's right.

39:03 Speaker 4: They've you know, the my entry into this world and

39:08 Speaker 4: reception and what I've gone through with my father in

39:13 Speaker 4: law's work has and and my view coming into this.

39:19 Speaker 4: As I look at the landscape, I see the I

39:23 Speaker 4: see the game that was being played right right, and

39:29 Speaker 4: I recognize most people do not see the game that's

39:33 Speaker 4: that's at hand, and so you know, there are some

39:39 Speaker 4: But what I've where I finally landed with this was

39:44 Speaker 4: that if I'm going to be of use anywhere, I've

39:49 Speaker 4: got to be of use in trying to help, you know,

39:58 Speaker 4: help others from the business, finance, economic side, get ahead

40:06 Speaker 4: of what's happening, because there is going to be such

40:10 Speaker 4: monumental change that flows from it. These same you know,

40:17 Speaker 4: And a little bit is out of out of spite

40:21 Speaker 4: for all of these key figures. I mean, for the

40:28 Speaker 4: most part, I don't have I have little to no respect.

40:32 Speaker 4: You can name a name and I likely have little

40:34 Speaker 4: to no respect for them. Anymore. But after surveying this

40:40 Speaker 4: landscape and and seeing what they're doing for their own benefits,

40:49 Speaker 4: and that they're they're lying through their teeth and they're misrepresenting,

40:54 Speaker 4: and they are they're being disingenuous.

40:58 Speaker 2: I miss this.

40:59 Speaker 4: Give me a name.

41:00 Speaker 2: Oh you're oh general really well, Zonda?

41:05 Speaker 4: Yes, you mean you know Jesse Michaels, I mean, useful

41:14 Speaker 4: idiot in the Do you think.

41:16 Speaker 2: They have handlers?

41:17 Speaker 3: Yes, whether it's through they you think you think like

41:20 Speaker 3: the big podcasters have handlers.

41:22 Speaker 2: Really, here's what I think. I actually don't. So even

41:26 Speaker 2: if Peter Keel has a handler, I would consider Jesse.

41:31 Speaker 4: Controlled that here right, here's the thing about it.

41:34 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that's true. I'm just saying, like

41:36 Speaker 2: if Gene was if Gene was a CIA agent, you

41:40 Speaker 2: would consider me compromise. Right, If I'm compromised, she's compromised

41:45 Speaker 2: by happenstance.

41:47 Speaker 4: Wasn't he.

41:52 Speaker 2: Gene? You fucking me?

41:55 Speaker 4: What I'm saying is this, Wait a minute, I handled No.

41:59 Speaker 3: No, they put the fucking they put the wrong handler

42:02 Speaker 3: on the both of us.

42:03 Speaker 4: I tell you that.

42:03 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like they put him on

42:05 Speaker 3: usidding me.

42:10 Speaker 4: Ship boy, do you guys pick the wrong guy?

42:13 Speaker 5: No, no, no fucking we're going We're all going rogue.

42:15 Speaker 5: And this is the most rebellious motherfucker there is.

42:18 Speaker 4: You know, handler is probably the wrong word in the

42:22 Speaker 4: sense that people will think about it that there's you know,

42:25 Speaker 4: somebody in a suit, you know, sitting right that shows

42:29 Speaker 4: up once a month, and things like that. For all

42:33 Speaker 4: of this, for all of the different factions, let's call them. Right,

42:40 Speaker 4: you do not need conspiracy, you do not need collaboration,

42:50 Speaker 4: you do not need intent, right, what what is the

43:00 Speaker 4: machinery behind the operation? Are the incentives?

43:07 Speaker 2: Interesting?

43:08 Speaker 4: And each faction's incentives are aligned so that no one

43:17 Speaker 4: of them that for any one of them to try

43:21 Speaker 4: and disrupt another's incentives hurts their own incentive naturally, So

43:30 Speaker 4: they all have a degree of cooperation for self preservation.

43:38 Speaker 4: That's happening. And somebody like me as an individual, somebody

43:46 Speaker 4: like you know, even potentially you guys and others who

43:53 Speaker 4: your incentives are much different. Yeah, and your incentives are

44:00 Speaker 4: not necessarily aligned with theirs. So you're not a threat, right,

44:09 Speaker 4: You're not something that needs to be managed, not necessarily

44:14 Speaker 4: something that could be managed. Right. There has to be

44:20 Speaker 4: a mechanism. There has to be a motivation, and we

44:26 Speaker 4: used to the old term for it. They used to

44:29 Speaker 4: call it mice. Was the acronym that when you wanted

44:32 Speaker 4: to recruit an asset, you use this acronym to the

44:37 Speaker 4: mice acronym to figure.

44:39 Speaker 3: Out what.

44:41 Speaker 4: Motivation, money, ideology, whether they are compromised or corruptible, or

44:49 Speaker 4: whether they can be extorted.

44:52 Speaker 2: Dying family members mofucker dying. If your wife's dying and

44:58 Speaker 2: you have no money, oh yeah, you.

45:00 Speaker 3: Push, that's the easiest.

45:04 Speaker 4: So but that's the approach right now. Once they get

45:08 Speaker 4: in there and they're like and then and they start

45:11 Speaker 4: getting to know you over coffee and they're like, geez time, sorry,

45:14 Speaker 4: sorry to hear about your wife. And you're like, I

45:16 Speaker 4: can't fucking wait until she goes my god, da da dad. Well,

45:20 Speaker 4: now they're gonna be like, oh, we can't.

45:22 Speaker 2: Use that he's a psychopath.

45:26 Speaker 4: No, it's it's just that them offering them offering to

45:32 Speaker 4: help their wife get the world's best medical care. Like that,

45:38 Speaker 4: now that's off the table. Now they got to figure

45:40 Speaker 4: out what, you know, what else it is. And they're like, oh,

45:43 Speaker 4: well times, because you know, she got a big insurance policy.

45:46 Speaker 4: You're like, no, but you don't have nothing. You know,

45:48 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna go into the hole one I

45:50 Speaker 4: bury her, but I'm just gonna be glad to get

45:52 Speaker 4: rid of her. And d okay. So so money isn't

45:56 Speaker 4: a motivation for you necessarily, right, They're like, well, you know,

46:01 Speaker 4: are you going to need some help getting that?

46:02 Speaker 2: Now?

46:02 Speaker 4: I'm fine, I got so that might not be it.

46:06 Speaker 4: So now they're going to try and find, you know,

46:08 Speaker 4: another angle, right, and then you're like, you know, they're like, well,

46:12 Speaker 4: you know, what are you going to do when you

46:13 Speaker 4: go you know, and you're like, oh, I'm gonna you know,

46:16 Speaker 4: my my thing is I like to you know, dress

46:18 Speaker 4: up like an animal and you know, snuggle you know

46:21 Speaker 4: other people, you know what is it? Right? The furries?

46:24 Speaker 4: Like s furries? That's my thing.

46:26 Speaker 5: He did not pull this out randomly people, I've seen

46:29 Speaker 5: the costumes, right.

46:30 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is then that then they're gonna

46:33 Speaker 4: be like, oh is that something? Well, you know, I

46:35 Speaker 4: keep it quiet. Boom now they know. Now they've got

46:38 Speaker 4: something compromise, and he's gonna be like, well, you know what,

46:41 Speaker 4: I'm into that too. Let's you know they're gonna get

46:44 Speaker 4: your photos that. Yeah, So I'm saying it's a you know,

46:48 Speaker 4: it's a process. So you know, in the way of

46:52 Speaker 4: any of these figures, right, and and if you think

46:56 Speaker 4: about again, just look at look at behaviors, right, look

47:00 Speaker 4: at the behaviors, look at you know, what's going on

47:04 Speaker 4: with him in this and that?

47:05 Speaker 2: Okay, to a core question, do you think Alexondo is

47:12 Speaker 2: a lynchpin between the government, the military and the population

47:20 Speaker 2: right now? Do you think that he is out to

47:24 Speaker 2: control the valve to control them?

47:28 Speaker 4: For me, I don't. I don't think he's I don't

47:30 Speaker 4: think he's out to control the valve. I think he is.

47:36 Speaker 4: And he has positioned himself as the best answer for

47:44 Speaker 4: the government, for the government to manage what needs to

47:52 Speaker 4: be managed.

47:52 Speaker 2: Because that's where I'm getting a little bit bogged down.

47:55 Speaker 2: Is like, if Alexando is saying he's for disclosure, he

48:00 Speaker 2: he's justice. He left his job in government to finish

48:04 Speaker 2: the mission. And the mission if the mission is disclosure,

48:09 Speaker 2: why is he always reverting back to well.

48:11 Speaker 4: Because the mission can't be disclosure. It can't be right, right,

48:14 Speaker 4: Because if the government's mission was disclosure, then you would

48:18 Speaker 4: have had disclosure.

48:19 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

48:20 Speaker 4: The government's mission. The government's mission is to control disclosure. Right.

48:25 Speaker 2: But he left government only but now he still works

48:28 Speaker 2: in government. He's openly amidst this. So did he leave

48:31 Speaker 2: government or did he need to leave government?

48:32 Speaker 4: Well he didn't. He openly admitted. Then he didn't lead because.

48:35 Speaker 2: He's always like, oh, I still maintain a clearance.

48:38 Speaker 4: He's maintaining clean. The guy.

48:40 Speaker 3: The guys still employed, right, So that's a good he's

48:43 Speaker 3: still employed.

48:43 Speaker 4: Right, that's a good thing to talk through. So you

48:46 Speaker 4: know who gets to do that when you when you

48:48 Speaker 4: end your service with the government, your clearance ends.

48:52 Speaker 5: That it goes by by. It doesn't stick around.

48:55 Speaker 4: That even goes for presidents. It doesn't stick around just

48:57 Speaker 4: because you've been in a skiff, right, Like, it just doesn't.

49:00 Speaker 4: The day your employment ends, your clearance ends. Now like

49:07 Speaker 4: for a president, the executive Office of the President continues

49:12 Speaker 4: to sponsor a clearance for you because you were the president. Right.

49:17 Speaker 4: It's a a courtesy clapper. The former intelligence officials, you know,

49:22 Speaker 4: former secretaries, they they allow them that privilege so that

49:28 Speaker 4: they can still in their you know, new civilian roles

49:33 Speaker 4: and speaking be.

49:35 Speaker 2: Informed advisory kind of right, they don't.

49:38 Speaker 4: They don't get the same level of briefing that they

49:40 Speaker 4: got before. They don't, you know, they don't can't walk

49:44 Speaker 4: in and open files and and and stuff like that.

49:47 Speaker 4: They're there's there's guide rails around all of this. So

49:52 Speaker 4: for but for a normal person, right who isn't a

49:57 Speaker 4: flag officer, a secretary an official capacity, it.

50:04 Speaker 2: Ends Okay, there's no limbo period.

50:08 Speaker 4: Or after the seconds. So once you're once, it's done

50:14 Speaker 4: that second.

50:15 Speaker 2: So you every time you get a new job with

50:17 Speaker 2: the United States government or military, you need to reapply

50:20 Speaker 2: and be responsored for your They need to sponsor that clearance.

50:24 Speaker 4: So the investigation, the investigation for whatever level of clearance

50:32 Speaker 4: that you mike and the chat's cracking me up, whatever

50:35 Speaker 4: level of clearance it is that you hold, each one

50:40 Speaker 4: has a different requirement for how often it needs to

50:47 Speaker 4: be refreshed that you need to go through the investigation

50:50 Speaker 4: again and you're level as far as as far as

50:54 Speaker 4: I remember back in the day, it was like five

50:56 Speaker 4: years for I'm sorry, ten years for a seat for Clarence,

51:01 Speaker 4: five years for a top secret clearance, and then other

51:06 Speaker 4: areas you know, the top secret Yankee White, t SSCI.

51:11 Speaker 4: All of those might have additional you know, annual requirements

51:16 Speaker 4: on certain aspects of things that you know find usually

51:20 Speaker 4: requires you know, financial disclosures and shit like that or whatnot.

51:24 Speaker 4: So when you leave service, if you just had one

51:28 Speaker 4: done three years ago, right, and you leave service after

51:35 Speaker 4: three years and you have a top secret clarance, that

51:39 Speaker 4: investigation is still good for seven years. Okay, Okay. Now

51:46 Speaker 4: you go get a job in a contract with a

51:49 Speaker 4: contractor company or another part of government picks you up,

51:54 Speaker 4: then they have to sponsor your clearance. They that's when

51:58 Speaker 4: they go into the system. They have to pull your

52:01 Speaker 4: clearance into their organization, and then they have to monitor

52:09 Speaker 4: whatever it is that needs to be monitored that goes

52:11 Speaker 4: along with that clearance.

52:13 Speaker 2: Now, say say I have a top secret whatever clearance,

52:18 Speaker 2: right the top one like above top seams, but you

52:20 Speaker 2: can see you can see UFOs basically, and I leave government,

52:25 Speaker 2: I go to lockeed Martin.

52:29 Speaker 3: Contract and they're cleared because you.

52:31 Speaker 2: Know they're always like unless you have the clearance, I

52:33 Speaker 2: can't say it. What is that a blanket thing?

52:37 Speaker 1: Like?

52:37 Speaker 2: If I leave and I get really I get re

52:40 Speaker 2: cleared with Lockey, can I talk to a Lockey employee

52:43 Speaker 2: about what I learned in government. No, that's still off limits.

52:47 Speaker 4: Because again then it's because need to know?

52:49 Speaker 2: So then why does it so?

52:51 Speaker 4: So this is? This is that and which you've heard

52:54 Speaker 4: need to know? Right, this becomes so this is This

52:58 Speaker 4: is where again you can sometimes separate the cream from

53:04 Speaker 4: the chaff, right from the shaft, weak from the chaff

53:08 Speaker 4: in these discussions. Because you have a TSSCI clearance, because

53:14 Speaker 4: you can access a database, you do not have the

53:18 Speaker 4: right to look at anything that's in there.

53:20 Speaker 2: See. I think this is a big misconception.

53:23 Speaker 4: It's a huge misconception.

53:24 Speaker 2: This is why I bring it up. I'm trying to

53:26 Speaker 2: be a layman here. I know some of these answers,

53:28 Speaker 2: but right because like I think people think like, oh shit,

53:32 Speaker 2: you have top secret clearance. You can just walk into

53:34 Speaker 2: any room and be like no.

53:36 Speaker 4: That's why.

53:37 Speaker 3: That's why when Matt Brown found that folder of ship

53:39 Speaker 3: it wasn't supposed to be where it was like, he

53:41 Speaker 3: was like, this is not supposed to be here.

53:43 Speaker 4: And I also think that Matt Brown was doing another

53:45 Speaker 4: job than what he could say.

53:46 Speaker 2: There are so.

53:48 Speaker 4: For instance, when I when I work security at headquarters

53:53 Speaker 4: US Air Forces Europe. Right, and I used to have

53:56 Speaker 4: to escort the cleaners into the general's office. Right. This

54:03 Speaker 4: is the Commander of US Air Forces Europe, Commander Allied

54:10 Speaker 4: Air Force, not just commander in chief. To think, it's

54:13 Speaker 4: called the commander in chief, Commander in chief, Allied Commander

54:20 Speaker 4: in Chief, US Air Forces Europe, Allied Air Forces Central Europe.

54:26 Speaker 4: And on his desk because he might be at a meeting,

54:29 Speaker 4: you have whatever. His office itself is basically a skiff, right,

54:35 Speaker 4: and so there's document with the covers, you know, cosmic,

54:40 Speaker 4: top secret, top secret, secrets, whatever. Because I have a clarence,

54:46 Speaker 4: I can't just be like, oh, what's that, I have

54:49 Speaker 4: the clarence. I can look at it, dear diary, Diary.

54:55 Speaker 4: I'm saying, he turned into like a six paigenis. Yeah,

54:59 Speaker 4: you know, I have the clearance, the authority or I

55:05 Speaker 4: don't have a need to know. I can't look at

55:09 Speaker 4: it because it's there and it's it might be interesting.

55:11 Speaker 2: So the act of reading one in is that that

55:14 Speaker 2: is where you get the authorities into right.

55:20 Speaker 4: So yeah, so I have well, let's finish on the

55:24 Speaker 4: civilian aspects of this. So myself and my roles that

55:32 Speaker 4: I had, right, so I was inside these oil companies,

55:40 Speaker 4: my clearance had to be still sponsored by a government

55:44 Speaker 4: agency because they because the government wanted me to have

55:50 Speaker 4: information that they wanted me to be aware of to

55:55 Speaker 4: guide the decisions that were being made for the oil company, right, right,

56:00 Speaker 4: and so you know, but at some point where like,

56:04 Speaker 4: but you know, this is something I really need this

56:07 Speaker 4: guy to know, so can we get him a clearance

56:09 Speaker 4: or can we get him read in? And then they

56:12 Speaker 4: would read him in for this very specific thing. In

56:17 Speaker 4: the same way, there were things where depending on the

56:21 Speaker 4: agency or even a foreign government would want to read

56:26 Speaker 4: me in to something interesting that was important and you know,

56:34 Speaker 4: relevant to the work that I was doing. And then

56:37 Speaker 4: we had then they had other systems. They had a

56:40 Speaker 4: lot of you know, public private sector, public being government,

56:45 Speaker 4: public private sector working groups, coordinating committees, things like that.

56:53 Speaker 4: When there were moments, So there were moments where somebody

56:57 Speaker 4: you know in government would call, you know, the office

57:01 Speaker 4: phone or send an email and be like, can you

57:06 Speaker 4: get to a skiff? Can you get to a secure line?

57:09 Speaker 4: And I would have to call like the the local

57:12 Speaker 4: FBI office and identify myself. And I mean most of

57:17 Speaker 4: the times it was where I was working anyway, so

57:20 Speaker 4: I already knew them. I'd be like, so and so

57:24 Speaker 4: needs me to call them. I need to you know,

57:26 Speaker 4: I need to use the secure line you can go in.

57:30 Speaker 4: Back then it was with the key and ship you

57:31 Speaker 4: turned the key in an agriff James. Yeah. But you

57:35 Speaker 4: know it's like, so those are the types of relationships

57:39 Speaker 4: that are that are therefore established. So the idea that

57:46 Speaker 4: that I got mad about what's happening in my job,

57:51 Speaker 4: and I left the government and I am going to

57:53 Speaker 4: become a citizen and I am going to advocate for

57:57 Speaker 4: this thing as a private citizen. Right. They like that?

58:05 Speaker 4: Is that what they want? More? I just look at

58:12 Speaker 4: look at the camera. That's what I see. How do

58:16 Speaker 4: I not laugh at that? How do I not laugh

58:18 Speaker 4: at that? Bro? So the idea, the idea, All right,

58:24 Speaker 4: there's this huge government secret that needs to be brought

58:27 Speaker 4: to the public. I'm the guy who's going to bring

58:29 Speaker 4: it to the public. I'm resigning from my job because

58:33 Speaker 4: I am so dedicated to bringing this issue forward, right,

58:38 Speaker 4: and I'm going to do it as a private citizen.

58:40 Speaker 2: Right, But you're super limited.

58:43 Speaker 4: Who's keeping your clearance then?

58:48 Speaker 2: Or you're super limited or your ability to do something.

58:51 Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's not that, you know, not not

58:53 Speaker 4: at all. I mean again, you can do it as

58:56 Speaker 4: a private citizen, and you can do it with out

59:00 Speaker 4: your clearance, and yes, then you would have to make

59:05 Speaker 4: those statements.

59:07 Speaker 2: Like can I talk about that?

59:08 Speaker 4: I can't talk about that because, right, I still can't

59:13 Speaker 4: talk about because I'm a private citizen. But I don't

59:16 Speaker 4: have any new information. You know, this is what it

59:19 Speaker 4: was when I left. I don't know what it is now.

59:23 Speaker 2: Why do you think lou won't go into crash retrieval?

59:25 Speaker 4: I've never heard any of them say that.

59:27 Speaker 5: Why do you think because he was involved in it?

59:31 Speaker 2: Why do you think won't talk about crash atrieve?

59:34 Speaker 4: Why won't you say it, Jeane?

59:37 Speaker 2: Why that's topic?

59:39 Speaker 4: But again, you know, I don't know that he would

59:43 Speaker 4: be involved in them. He might have some knowledge of them,

59:46 Speaker 4: for sure, he may very well not have any knowledge

59:51 Speaker 4: of it, you know, whatsoever, he may he may really

59:55 Speaker 4: just have a knowledge of policy. And you know it's

1:00:00 Speaker 4: like because again not you know, not all intel is equal,

1:00:06 Speaker 4: and you know ninety nine percent of it is is unsexy,

1:00:11 Speaker 4: you know, desk analytical stuff like that, right, right, and

1:00:17 Speaker 4: and you know, of course there's you know, there's a

1:00:20 Speaker 4: skill set you developed through the years. You you know,

1:00:23 Speaker 4: you know how to do this stuff. You just so,

1:00:29 Speaker 4: I mean, and that's what I'm saying. And again for me,

1:00:32 Speaker 4: for me, my and what I'm pursuing. I don't give

1:00:36 Speaker 4: a ship what he was involved in. It's it's irrelevant

1:00:40 Speaker 4: to me what their actual jobs were, what they did,

1:00:45 Speaker 4: what they had access to, what they saw, what they touched.

1:00:50 Speaker 4: They fucking licked it. I don't know, it doesn't None

1:00:55 Speaker 4: of it makes a difference. It makes zero different There

1:01:01 Speaker 4: could be three alien species, there could be three million

1:01:05 Speaker 4: of them. They can be walking along the street. None

1:01:09 Speaker 4: of it actually matters to what is actually happening.

1:01:15 Speaker 2: How does that not affect what's happening now?

1:01:19 Speaker 4: Because none of that is going to be revealed or

1:01:25 Speaker 4: shared or that's all a distraction.

1:01:30 Speaker 2: This is this is only about into a standby mode.

1:01:35 Speaker 4: Good what covers? Just keep going, keep yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:01:44 Speaker 4: what's doing that?

1:01:46 Speaker 1: Of course?

1:01:47 Speaker 4: You know, I mean because because the motive you think

1:01:52 Speaker 4: that that, I don't know, the the incentive. It's like

1:01:58 Speaker 4: that these guys, drafter, I can see it.

1:02:02 Speaker 7: We have some strange shit.

1:02:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it looks like it's pulling.

1:02:06 Speaker 4: Focus for some reason because there's something walking in between

1:02:09 Speaker 4: you two, potentially just walking in front of the lamp.

1:02:12 Speaker 3: We didn't do that box thing, did we We're just

1:02:14 Speaker 3: gonna do that box thing. Remember you had the box.

1:02:16 Speaker 3: You're gonna talk?

1:02:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna do that. We have plenty

1:02:19 Speaker 2: of time. What I'm saying, I want to do you know,

1:02:22 Speaker 2: like looking for like electronic voice phenomenon.

1:02:25 Speaker 4: We were gonna do it.

1:02:25 Speaker 5: I was gonna come earlier.

1:02:26 Speaker 4: We're gonna do it. No, he's got one, so we

1:02:30 Speaker 4: could do it. I can do it. I'll drop I'll

1:02:31 Speaker 4: come here tomorrow. Yeah, we can do it. We'll do

1:02:34 Speaker 4: it tomorrow. We'll film tomorrow or some ship the.

1:02:37 Speaker 2: What so.

1:02:38 Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying. It's that is all. That's

1:02:42 Speaker 4: all well and fun, that's all filler material, all.

1:02:46 Speaker 2: Right, But what about when someone says, what about when

1:02:50 Speaker 2: Dylan Borland on a podcast with Jesse Michael says that

1:02:54 Speaker 2: the O D and I highly uh highly not emphasize

1:03:01 Speaker 2: what's the word implied that humans are not in charge

1:03:08 Speaker 2: of the cover up in the secrecy.

1:03:11 Speaker 4: It would make sense to.

1:03:13 Speaker 2: Me believe that that could be a possibility that the

1:03:16 Speaker 2: odni had actually knows such a thing. They would imply

1:03:18 Speaker 2: it to a guy like Dylan Borland. But you don't

1:03:21 Speaker 2: think that matters right now.

1:03:23 Speaker 4: None of it matters. So it makes me wonder, what

1:03:25 Speaker 4: else do you think?

1:03:26 Speaker 3: Okay, I think that I've only Okay, this is gonna

1:03:29 Speaker 3: sound absolutely bashit crazy, but that's what I've always felt,

1:03:31 Speaker 3: that something else is in charge, not us.

1:03:34 Speaker 5: It would explain all.

1:03:35 Speaker 3: The fucking disabilization globally that goes on, as far as

1:03:38 Speaker 3: with like Europe just flooding their things with random mass people.

1:03:42 Speaker 3: Same thing here would makes sense human eye. It just

1:03:44 Speaker 3: keep the humans distracted so we could just do whatever

1:03:46 Speaker 3: the fuck we want to humanity. Then you've got large

1:03:48 Speaker 3: chunks of humans disappearing. So you have three hundred thousand

1:03:51 Speaker 3: children just peered. No one knows what the fuck they

1:03:52 Speaker 3: went right in the United States disappeared Boom gone number two.

1:03:55 Speaker 3: It makes me wonder what the fuck was Dylan Borland

1:03:57 Speaker 3: doing that. This guy can talk to him like that

1:03:59 Speaker 3: and say the aliens are in charge? What did what

1:04:01 Speaker 3: was Dylan Borlan exposed to?

1:04:03 Speaker 4: What does he know? What does he dealt with? You

1:04:05 Speaker 4: talk listen to me.

1:04:06 Speaker 5: He, like Jeane just said.

1:04:07 Speaker 3: Dylan Borland was in the military for three years. He

1:04:10 Speaker 3: retired out of the military and went right into contracting

1:04:13 Speaker 3: because he says it in this interview that he wanted

1:04:15 Speaker 3: to be whatever it was in the government. He wants

1:04:17 Speaker 3: to work for the government and work, but he wanted

1:04:20 Speaker 3: but he also wanted to work for the government. That's

1:04:22 Speaker 3: he wants to retire working for the government. The dude

1:04:24 Speaker 3: worked for almost ten years as a contractor doing god

1:04:27 Speaker 3: knows what, and we know that he supported Lenvall Logan.

1:04:31 Speaker 3: Logan says it in my interview. He and Borland even

1:04:34 Speaker 3: said it in that interview. If you watch that interview,

1:04:36 Speaker 3: he tells you everything.

1:04:37 Speaker 2: So when I interview lenvill and I and I bring

1:04:40 Speaker 2: up Dylan Borland supporting UAP Task Force to see what

1:04:43 Speaker 2: he says, He's gonna tell me that. Yet he did.

1:04:46 Speaker 4: I don't know see what he says.

1:04:47 Speaker 3: He kind of alluded to it with me, but I

1:04:49 Speaker 3: didn't get clarification and he still wouldn't clarify it. So

1:04:54 Speaker 3: I'll be very diff' But I'm also basing this. You

1:04:56 Speaker 3: watched the interview today, right, I've watched it twice on

1:04:59 Speaker 3: the right up here mostly and yours.

1:05:02 Speaker 2: You apparently don't watch mine.

1:05:03 Speaker 5: Oh I will watch the interview. I just have not

1:05:06 Speaker 5: had time.

1:05:07 Speaker 3: He basically said that he was doing other jobs for

1:05:10 Speaker 3: for other contracting companies, but he didn't really specify what

1:05:13 Speaker 3: he went into. I remember he's going hypothetically, this hypothetically

1:05:16 Speaker 3: that there's no hypotheticals, right, so what about arm so

1:05:22 Speaker 3: And this is just why I'm assuming.

1:05:23 Speaker 2: The reason where it supersedes if like, right, what did

1:05:27 Speaker 2: he just said? So? If if there is an NHI

1:05:32 Speaker 2: that's in control, that's got its fingers or whatever it has, it.

1:05:37 Speaker 3: Would make logistical sense. It would make logistical sense. Look,

1:05:40 Speaker 3: how the world's been for twenty five years.

1:05:42 Speaker 4: What are we doing about that?

1:05:43 Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying if it's in nothing, what can we

1:05:47 Speaker 2: do if we aren't armed with what we need to

1:05:50 Speaker 2: be armed with. If if there's some overlord alien that

1:05:55 Speaker 2: means and that sounds.

1:05:57 Speaker 4: Stupid, but no it doesn't really. I think that's a

1:06:00 Speaker 4: great idea. If there's if there is some overlord alien

1:06:05 Speaker 4: that has controlled the progression for me of mankind over

1:06:08 Speaker 4: the last however many millennia.

1:06:11 Speaker 3: Fifty years, I say, fifty thousands, of years. They've been

1:06:14 Speaker 3: here for thousands of years for sure, history.

1:06:17 Speaker 4: Right and right, and let's say the Rockefellers and the

1:06:20 Speaker 4: Queen of England and reptilian lizard people and all the rest.

1:06:27 Speaker 2: Of that, right, every National enquire story.

1:06:29 Speaker 4: So I got to tell you, for all the things

1:06:33 Speaker 4: that I are messed up, they've done a pretty good job.

1:06:37 Speaker 4: And I gotta tell you, I don't think that from

1:06:41 Speaker 4: from the normal people that I've interacted with and seen

1:06:47 Speaker 4: in life, I don't think they could do any better

1:06:52 Speaker 4: of a job managing people in society and global You know,

1:07:01 Speaker 4: people can hardly manage their own fucking lives and their

1:07:05 Speaker 4: own house.

1:07:06 Speaker 5: People are lemmings. People are lemmings period, follow the leader exactly.

1:07:10 Speaker 4: So you know what, it shock and surprise me that

1:07:15 Speaker 4: there's a master race that's controlling us, you know, or

1:07:19 Speaker 4: a master species one.

1:07:21 Speaker 3: I just want to know.

1:07:22 Speaker 5: I just want to know if it's true or not.

1:07:24 Speaker 4: That's it.

1:07:24 Speaker 3: I just want to know the truth.

1:07:25 Speaker 2: But you're saying it doesn't matter because there's.

1:07:28 Speaker 4: Nothing you can do about it. Think about it, do

1:07:30 Speaker 4: you think?

1:07:32 Speaker 3: But this isn't I guess, And I'd rather take the

1:07:34 Speaker 3: red pill all day and know the truth and and

1:07:36 Speaker 3: be out of and be out of the matrix, bang

1:07:38 Speaker 3: and carry moss in real life than in the bullshit simulation.

1:07:42 Speaker 3: I'm not saying take the blue pill. I'm saying there's

1:07:44 Speaker 3: nothing we can do about it, is what he's saying.

1:07:46 Speaker 4: I'm saying that this is offers you a pill. Right,

1:07:50 Speaker 4: there's no pill. Right.

1:07:51 Speaker 3: We're just in the world now, right, So we're just

1:07:52 Speaker 3: sitting here. We know, you know something, we know what

1:07:56 Speaker 3: the reality is. There's nothing we can do to change it.

1:07:58 Speaker 3: But if there is, we would take I would take

1:07:59 Speaker 3: that in hard and.

1:08:01 Speaker 4: Fault to be sorry. Your default seemed to be that, Oh,

1:08:05 Speaker 4: if I know there's an alien overlord, then I need

1:08:07 Speaker 4: to fight.

1:08:08 Speaker 2: Oh I never said fight. I never said fight. I

1:08:12 Speaker 2: don't like the threat narrative. That's why I said it

1:08:14 Speaker 2: sounds stupid when I say alien overlord. But if there

1:08:17 Speaker 2: is a species that's equivalent, you know, not again take

1:08:24 Speaker 2: this loosely, but like someone controlling the sims. Right, if

1:08:30 Speaker 2: there is someone like at the video game control this,

1:08:38 Speaker 2: there is someone that's in control of that or many avatar,

1:08:44 Speaker 2: many things that are in control of it. How could

1:08:50 Speaker 2: that not matter reality? That's that would be our reality, right,

1:08:57 Speaker 2: Is it better to be ignorant and list fault or

1:09:03 Speaker 2: know what you're dealing with and not able to do

1:09:06 Speaker 2: anything about it.

1:09:07 Speaker 4: So it's the difference between knowing that God made your

1:09:15 Speaker 4: transmission blow and now you gotta fucking get a new

1:09:19 Speaker 4: car and transmission, or Joe the sixth tentacled alien made

1:09:25 Speaker 4: your car engine blow because it's part of a game that.

1:09:28 Speaker 3: He's like, watch me fuck with his YouTube.

1:09:30 Speaker 4: What's the difference?

1:09:32 Speaker 2: Oh, the outcome is not different, is what you're saying.

1:09:35 Speaker 2: It doesn't change what happens.

1:09:36 Speaker 5: Because what you're saying, your life goes on. You know

1:09:38 Speaker 5: about it, but your life still goes on, right, fair enough.

1:09:42 Speaker 4: And instead of you being like, God, please help me

1:09:45 Speaker 4: fix translate mission, you're gonna be tell the alien go on.

1:09:50 Speaker 4: What's the fucking difference?

1:09:52 Speaker 2: Okay?

1:09:52 Speaker 4: Then then.

1:09:55 Speaker 2: Is the is disclosure really not about the truth or

1:09:58 Speaker 2: is it about or is it all has been about

1:10:00 Speaker 2: the exploitation and the enrichment of that person that can

1:10:04 Speaker 2: do it, or that entity, that government agency, whatever it is.

1:10:10 Speaker 2: Legacy program, even though you don't think a legacy program

1:10:13 Speaker 2: exactly exists. You're saying this has always been about the money.

1:10:23 Speaker 4: Okay, sorry.

1:10:24 Speaker 2: Is it about the money and the exploitation of the technology,

1:10:28 Speaker 2: or is it about the truth and the awareness of

1:10:30 Speaker 2: the public. You're arguing that it's about the form.

1:10:35 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm arguing it's about that anything other than

1:10:39 Speaker 4: the truth than awareness to So here's the thing. The

1:10:44 Speaker 4: United States government, the officers of the United States government,

1:10:50 Speaker 4: first and foremost responsibility is to preserve the institutions.

1:10:57 Speaker 2: Naturally, Okay, right, I see where you're going.

1:11:01 Speaker 4: First and foremost, that's it. Telling the public the truth

1:11:05 Speaker 4: does not at all in that equation. They need to

1:11:12 Speaker 4: preserve the institutions. So the government is never going to

1:11:17 Speaker 4: do anything nor make any decision that jeopardizes the institutions

1:11:26 Speaker 4: of the United States.

1:11:28 Speaker 2: You see why. That's backwards.

1:11:29 Speaker 4: The continuity, the continuity. Have you guys seen it of that?

1:11:34 Speaker 2: Have you seen Annie Jacobson's or have you have you

1:11:39 Speaker 2: heard about her book, her new book?

1:11:41 Speaker 4: Don't even know who it is?

1:11:42 Speaker 2: You guys don't know Annie Jacobson familiar if she did

1:11:45 Speaker 2: the book about the nuke the nukes really Jamie pull

1:11:52 Speaker 2: it up.

1:11:55 Speaker 3: I'm like looking around, where the hell is Jamie?

1:11:57 Speaker 5: We got to get a Jamie at some point.

1:12:00 Speaker 2: So any Jacobs isn't an author.

1:12:02 Speaker 4: She assumed that since she was writing books, Yeah, I

1:12:05 Speaker 4: reached that conclusion of.

1:12:06 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, great, that's great.

1:12:09 Speaker 5: I love it, not making movies.

1:12:13 Speaker 2: So she wrote a new book about biological weapon. She

1:12:19 Speaker 2: goes into a lot of these things about continuity of government, right,

1:12:23 Speaker 2: and how they have a plan for every evolution. So

1:12:28 Speaker 2: not so evolution with a D devolution right, So that's weird, right,

1:12:35 Speaker 2: So what does that mean? Not evolving? You're going backwards?

1:12:40 Speaker 2: What scenarios would lead to devolution? A nuclear weapon going off?

1:12:46 Speaker 2: Well maybe maybe, because arguably we all die if nuke

1:12:51 Speaker 2: is off. But if a biological weapon gets set out.

1:12:54 Speaker 4: Off all the time, they test them all the time, right,

1:12:56 Speaker 4: but you know that, you know what I mean?

1:12:59 Speaker 2: Like if.

1:13:01 Speaker 4: Right, So it's a show. We gotta make it entertained.

1:13:03 Speaker 2: Right, So if someone sett a biological agent off in

1:13:06 Speaker 2: the United States, they have a continuity of government plan

1:13:10 Speaker 2: that kicks right in, that's already in place. Right now.

1:13:14 Speaker 2: The people that are a part of it know that

1:13:17 Speaker 2: they're a part of it, because they have to know

1:13:19 Speaker 2: that they're a part of it. So do you think

1:13:22 Speaker 2: now there's a reason I'm bringing this up what's going on.

1:13:25 Speaker 2: I feel a lot of I feel a lot of

1:13:29 Speaker 2: something weird.

1:13:31 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's the same guy that's saying that he

1:13:36 Speaker 4: can't hear us. But he's the only person. So everyone, wonderful.

1:13:42 Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm listening to us, right, is he talking about.

1:13:48 Speaker 4: He says, no, Gene's fine. Hell, this is what it's still.

1:14:00 Speaker 3: What the camera is sucking up, bro, it's doing that weird.

1:14:03 Speaker 3: It's making pulse and it's giving people motions sickness.

1:14:09 Speaker 4: You know what that means.

1:14:10 Speaker 3: More Gene.

1:14:13 Speaker 4: On the screen. More Jeane, all day, all night, All Jeane.

1:14:16 Speaker 4: It's all Jeane, all day, all night here on the

1:14:19 Speaker 4: Total Disclosure Podcast. Oh that sounds good. I can hear myself.

1:14:28 Speaker 4: All right, we're just gonna I don't technical.

1:14:31 Speaker 3: I don't feel it in this room in this moment,

1:14:33 Speaker 3: so I don't think it's here. Not saying that it

1:14:35 Speaker 3: can't be, but it's it could be fucking with the camera.

1:14:37 Speaker 4: I don't know. But the dog's really calm right now.

1:14:40 Speaker 7: So that's.

1:14:44 Speaker 5: You can hear me, just fine? Okay, is it still

1:14:49 Speaker 5: doing it?

1:14:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, that could be it. So just switch so we'll

1:15:00 Speaker 4: pop your other one. I don't want you not to

1:15:01 Speaker 4: be on camera. My man, Yeah, where was I Let's

1:15:10 Speaker 4: keep going. The people are here. People want people want

1:15:14 Speaker 4: to see more mean Geene. People want more Gene.

1:15:16 Speaker 3: Well, I'm just shocked because the last time we were

1:15:18 Speaker 3: all here together, you were great asleep in this room.

1:15:21 Speaker 3: Yeah technical just when I'm here. Yeah, but you know

1:15:33 Speaker 3: what we can do? Can you the video? I said, Jess,

1:15:35 Speaker 3: can you play that so people can.

1:15:41 Speaker 2: No?

1:15:42 Speaker 3: All right, because I was gonna because peop, because people

1:15:44 Speaker 3: were asking. People were like calling me a liar about

1:15:47 Speaker 3: the lamp there, like the lamp is bullshit.

1:15:51 Speaker 4: I don't know.

1:15:52 Speaker 5: They're like, oh, he fucking rigged it.

1:15:54 Speaker 4: He was faking. I go, bro.

1:15:55 Speaker 3: It is an hour and forty minutes into the into

1:15:57 Speaker 3: the live stream. It was not planned. We were literally

1:16:00 Speaker 3: just breaking balls, remember, and he said do the light

1:16:02 Speaker 3: and I was like, hell, yeah, do the light because

1:16:03 Speaker 3: the light was visible, and then she did. Well, then

1:16:07 Speaker 3: I said do the light. I want you to mess

1:16:09 Speaker 3: with that light. Right now, people are thinking it's fake.

1:16:12 Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, it's a regular lamp. It's just plugged

1:16:14 Speaker 5: into the wall.

1:16:17 Speaker 2: Guys, I'm just gonna be heard and not seen. But

1:16:20 Speaker 2: if you want to call someone a liar, call me

1:16:23 Speaker 2: a liar, and I'll tell you this. I shall have

1:16:26 Speaker 2: the whole fucking documentary that we did because someone asked

1:16:29 Speaker 2: me to stage something in the Bridgewater Triangle. So before

1:16:33 Speaker 2: you call anyone anything, come talk to me because I'll tell.

1:16:40 Speaker 4: You what happened.

1:16:41 Speaker 2: And you don't have to call veto anything or claim

1:16:45 Speaker 2: that he did. If it was anyone, it would be me.

1:16:49 Speaker 2: And again, we all go to our creator at the

1:16:52 Speaker 2: end of our lives and we're gonna or we go

1:16:56 Speaker 2: to Joe Dailien.

1:16:56 Speaker 3: It's just it's funny because like my saying that, yeah,

1:17:01 Speaker 3: people people straight up people thought we were bullshitting.

1:17:04 Speaker 5: People thought it was like you had a switch.

1:17:06 Speaker 4: Or you were activa.

1:17:08 Speaker 3: Bro, it's a regular lamp, like you're at a kitchen counter.

1:17:11 Speaker 3: There's nothing special about it.

1:17:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not even as not.

1:17:14 Speaker 4: But that's the thing.

1:17:15 Speaker 3: The one knows, No one knows what your setup is.

1:17:16 Speaker 5: I don't realize you're sitting.

1:17:17 Speaker 2: In a kitchen fair enough, fair enough, but where were we?

1:17:21 Speaker 1: What?

1:17:22 Speaker 4: Shane?

1:17:23 Speaker 2: Why do you think? Why do you I mean, so

1:17:28 Speaker 2: this has always been about so devolution. We're talking about devolution.

1:17:32 Speaker 2: So if a biological weapon goes continue goverment. So there's

1:17:36 Speaker 2: already people that know that they're a part of this

1:17:39 Speaker 2: devolution plan, right, And with do you because I've always

1:17:47 Speaker 2: thought about this, we always talk about does the plant

1:17:50 Speaker 2: the government have a plan for alien contact? Arguably alien

1:17:55 Speaker 2: you're seeing it would come with some sort of risk

1:17:58 Speaker 2: of biological cantamp the nation. Just like the Native Americans

1:18:02 Speaker 2: and the colonists, right, they brought diseases with them that

1:18:06 Speaker 2: were unknown to this land, wipes through the native population.

1:18:11 Speaker 2: Are we running that risk with an alien contact or

1:18:14 Speaker 2: do you.

1:18:14 Speaker 4: Think that possible? But positively?

1:18:17 Speaker 2: I mean again, it's and do you think that the

1:18:19 Speaker 2: government has put that into place? Like sure, if if

1:18:24 Speaker 2: something were to crash, we need to be ready for

1:18:30 Speaker 2: like global killoff. So this is that's another thing about

1:18:34 Speaker 2: these crash retiefs that don't get.

1:18:37 Speaker 4: But this is, you know, this is essentially the core

1:18:43 Speaker 4: of you know, the core of FEMA as you know,

1:18:46 Speaker 4: as an as an institution, right, you know, to to

1:18:51 Speaker 4: coordinate and have this one centralized federal system for managing

1:19:03 Speaker 4: all of these things, right, and it crosses over you know,

1:19:08 Speaker 4: I mean in the in the oil and gas world,

1:19:12 Speaker 4: I worked a lot with FEMA. I have I have

1:19:16 Speaker 4: dozens of FEMA certifications and FEMA trainings and all of that.

1:19:22 Speaker 4: You know, that's all about the you know, national national

1:19:25 Speaker 4: response plan and in national incident you know management Above

1:19:31 Speaker 4: all those, there's continuity of government, right, So it's why

1:19:35 Speaker 4: within the higher so.

1:19:38 Speaker 2: There's no population to govern? Who gives a fuck about

1:19:42 Speaker 2: continuity of government? What the fuck are we talking about?

1:19:45 Speaker 5: Because it's it's like he said, with egos that.

1:19:49 Speaker 2: In the Constitution that the government is for and by.

1:19:52 Speaker 4: The people, for the people, by the people.

1:19:54 Speaker 3: Ask people that they always forget the.

1:19:56 Speaker 2: Continuity of government. I feel like it is a direct

1:19:58 Speaker 2: conundrum all that center.

1:20:01 Speaker 4: No, it's it's it's it's yourself. It's inherent to.

1:20:05 Speaker 2: What about what about?

1:20:08 Speaker 4: Hold on?

1:20:08 Speaker 2: What about? Now? Heated? What about?

1:20:11 Speaker 4: But you're talking, but you're you're saying two different things.

1:20:14 Speaker 3: It's the same thing, like like, if God forbid, we

1:20:16 Speaker 3: get a nuclear attack, right, what do they do? They

1:20:17 Speaker 3: fucking take the president everybody else?

1:20:19 Speaker 4: Why?

1:20:19 Speaker 3: But it's not themselves. They protect America as a whole.

1:20:22 Speaker 3: They see the government as America, right, So they're protecting

1:20:25 Speaker 3: sovereign start the population, right, But unfortunately that's what it is.

1:20:29 Speaker 3: They're protecting the sovereignty of our nation. So what constitution

1:20:31 Speaker 3: was written for? So it's based on protecting it. That's

1:20:34 Speaker 3: the whole reason. So I get it entirely.

1:20:38 Speaker 4: That in the most in the most extreme, unimaginable, uh circumstances,

1:20:45 Speaker 4: that the United States can still exist?

1:20:48 Speaker 2: Is that why when locker be happened, they warned only

1:20:51 Speaker 2: the internal government and they let the passengers get on

1:20:53 Speaker 2: those planes even know that they knew there was a

1:20:55 Speaker 2: terrorist threat against panamp flights.

1:20:57 Speaker 4: I don't know that.

1:20:58 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, why is the government operating? They've always

1:21:01 Speaker 2: been operating there on their own.

1:21:05 Speaker 4: Because the government is what did I just say they wanted?

1:21:08 Speaker 2: But again I'm saying, do you see why that is?

1:21:10 Speaker 4: They're looking after the institutions. You're interpreting is they're looking

1:21:17 Speaker 4: after themselves. They're not. They're looking after the institutions. Any

1:21:22 Speaker 4: individual at any given time, at any given disaster will

1:21:28 Speaker 4: just be sitting in the seat.

1:21:30 Speaker 2: So it's much like have you ever have you Because

1:21:32 Speaker 2: I would argue, I would argue that that the senators

1:21:36 Speaker 2: and people that are doe four years, I don't even

1:21:39 Speaker 2: think they're important to some of these people.

1:21:42 Speaker 4: Have you ever heard the story of the ceramic cup.

1:21:46 Speaker 4: So there was a we have a ceramic cup. There

1:21:50 Speaker 4: was a I'll just I'll use I'll use my yetti,

1:21:53 Speaker 4: I'll use my yetti mug. We'll call it the tail

1:21:56 Speaker 4: of the YETI munk. So there's a sorry, I'm I

1:22:00 Speaker 4: don't remember the name of the guy who tells his story,

1:22:02 Speaker 4: but when he was when he was an under secretary

1:22:10 Speaker 4: in the federal government, he got invited to speak at

1:22:13 Speaker 4: a conference. Right and when he was under secretary, they

1:22:18 Speaker 4: booked his travel car met him at the airport, brought

1:22:23 Speaker 4: him to the hotel, picked him up in the gave

1:22:26 Speaker 4: him his schedule, picked him up in the morning, brought

1:22:29 Speaker 4: him to the conference, and when he got to the

1:22:32 Speaker 4: conference they handed him a ceramic mug of coffee. When

1:22:38 Speaker 4: he asked for coffee, they brought it to him in

1:22:40 Speaker 4: a ceramic mug. The next time that conference happened, he

1:22:46 Speaker 4: was no longer the under secretary, and he got invited

1:22:50 Speaker 4: to speak at the same conference again, and he had

1:22:54 Speaker 4: to book his own travel, and he had to get

1:22:56 Speaker 4: from the airport to the hotel, and he had to

1:23:01 Speaker 4: get himself to the conference center in the morning, and

1:23:04 Speaker 4: when he asked for a cup of coffee. Somebody said, yep,

1:23:08 Speaker 4: it's right over there, and he went over and he

1:23:12 Speaker 4: grabbed a styrofoam cup and he filled up his coffee.

1:23:16 Speaker 4: And it was in that moment he thought about the

1:23:19 Speaker 4: nice ceramic mug that he had the previous time, and

1:23:24 Speaker 4: he realized that mug was never for him. That mug

1:23:31 Speaker 4: was for the office and the position that he held.

1:23:36 Speaker 5: In that moment, I see where you're going, and that

1:23:40 Speaker 5: that was life goes.

1:23:41 Speaker 4: On a privilege of that office. That somebody came and

1:23:47 Speaker 4: handed him his coffee in a ceramic mug and paid

1:23:51 Speaker 4: for his pad. And this is what people lose when

1:23:57 Speaker 4: they spend a lot of time in government and things

1:24:00 Speaker 4: like that, or they spend a lot of time in

1:24:02 Speaker 4: any kind of position of reportance, is that they forget

1:24:09 Speaker 4: that it is not about them, That somebody else has

1:24:12 Speaker 4: sat in that seat before, and somebody will sit in

1:24:16 Speaker 4: that seat after. And you know, it's funny. There was

1:24:21 Speaker 4: a whistler Mike still on. He'll remember, Yes, we were

1:24:24 Speaker 4: having a space and there was some girl who got

1:24:27 Speaker 4: on there and started talking about how irreplaceable she was

1:24:31 Speaker 4: in her job. She was a federal contract and she

1:24:34 Speaker 4: was irreplaceable. And I said to her, if you think

1:24:38 Speaker 4: that you were irreplaceable, you were setting yourself up for

1:24:42 Speaker 4: one of the biggest disappointments you will ever have in life.

1:24:46 Speaker 4: And then she wanted to argue about it, and I

1:24:48 Speaker 4: dropped her down, So just just replaced her right there

1:24:52 Speaker 4: on the chat. But it is, you know, it is

1:24:56 Speaker 4: that idea, and that is an inherent and in recognizing that, right.

1:25:02 Speaker 4: I remember even working at Shell and being in the

1:25:06 Speaker 4: hang there was a guy you know, when you saw him,

1:25:11 Speaker 4: he was wearing something that had that pectin on it,

1:25:14 Speaker 4: and he was mister Company and all the rest of it.

1:25:18 Speaker 4: And one morning he missed a meeting fired, the secretary

1:25:23 Speaker 4: tried calling the apartments and all that. They sent people

1:25:26 Speaker 4: over to check on him. He was dead in his

1:25:29 Speaker 4: bowl of cereal.

1:25:29 Speaker 2: Damn right it yeahs.

1:25:37 Speaker 7: The next day I.

1:25:39 Speaker 4: Remember walking in and there was a one of the

1:25:42 Speaker 4: kiosks that you know informations on had a piece of

1:25:47 Speaker 4: paper taped over it had his picture in memorial of

1:25:52 Speaker 4: and dah da da da dada and gone next week, right.

1:25:55 Speaker 4: And then later that afternoon the job was posted.

1:26:00 Speaker 3: You're knocking that side, right, and you applied for the

1:26:07 Speaker 3: job and got it.

1:26:09 Speaker 5: And I got the job.

1:26:13 Speaker 4: You know, you're everybody is always replaceable. But that's life, brother.

1:26:20 Speaker 4: But the idea, the contrast to that is things like

1:26:27 Speaker 4: the Constitution and the continuity of government exists because the

1:26:33 Speaker 4: United States is not replaceable, and that ensures that no

1:26:39 Speaker 4: matter what, we are not replaceable. That the United States

1:26:44 Speaker 4: itself might exit, might experience the most catastrophic event that

1:26:50 Speaker 4: we ever have experienced, but no other nation, every other nation,

1:26:57 Speaker 4: and we might be the only ones that experience this event,

1:27:01 Speaker 4: and it could be limited to only our borders. Yet

1:27:06 Speaker 4: no other nation can lay claim to us and lay

1:27:11 Speaker 4: claim to whoever it is that does survive and make

1:27:15 Speaker 4: us their subjects, because there is a structure in place

1:27:21 Speaker 4: that says, because we are down to the last ten

1:27:25 Speaker 4: Americans does not mean we are no longer the United

1:27:29 Speaker 4: States than those last ten Americans. Their responsibility is to

1:27:36 Speaker 4: preserve and defend the Constitution of the United States and

1:27:39 Speaker 4: to re establish and guess.

1:27:42 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we can finally clean Washington up. Then that's

1:27:45 Speaker 3: the case. Maybe that's what it is.

1:27:48 Speaker 4: But out of those ten people, there is a path

1:27:53 Speaker 4: that you can likely trace, even if they're all civilians,

1:27:57 Speaker 4: to say which one of them should be president.

1:28:01 Speaker 2: Right right, because it would fall to whoever as like,

1:28:06 Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, somes.

1:28:08 Speaker 4: Like there might be right there, you know, So if

1:28:11 Speaker 4: you can imagine, so if if and again just off

1:28:13 Speaker 4: the top of my head, I'm imagining I'm in that situation.

1:28:16 Speaker 4: And I've got a teacher, an electrician, a truck driver,

1:28:27 Speaker 4: you know, and and a a guy who was in

1:28:32 Speaker 4: you know, was a city council official, and Pine Bluffs, Arkansas.

1:28:37 Speaker 4: And I've got somebody who you know, uh, managed a

1:28:41 Speaker 4: housing complex. And those are you know, the last five.

1:28:46 Speaker 4: I can run through the logic and I could say,

1:28:50 Speaker 4: person who was on the city council, you are now

1:28:53 Speaker 4: president of the United States. Electrician, you are now the

1:28:58 Speaker 4: Secretary of Energy. You have a degree in international relations.

1:29:02 Speaker 4: You are now Secretary of State. The building, you're the building,

1:29:06 Speaker 4: your Department of Healthy or you know, urban development whatever.

1:29:11 Speaker 2: And when we have kids, lady, you are Secretary of

1:29:15 Speaker 2: Teaching whatever. That one is, Department of Education.

1:29:20 Speaker 4: Women. They're doing doing away with that anyway. But but

1:29:23 Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying, that's what continuity of government

1:29:26 Speaker 4: gives us. That's what that structure provides. And then we

1:29:31 Speaker 4: can sit there and say, no, there is still somebody

1:29:35 Speaker 4: in charge. You might not be in charge of much

1:29:38 Speaker 4: but that but the by the constitution, that is the

1:29:42 Speaker 4: rule of law, the land of the world, that is

1:29:44 Speaker 4: who it is, and we are still the United States.

1:29:46 Speaker 4: And okay, then they all get shot down and you know, Russia.

1:29:54 Speaker 2: But yeah, I get where you're going with this, So now,

1:29:58 Speaker 2: don't one Dylan jesting that an Nhi could be in

1:30:02 Speaker 2: charge of us is a very far fetched thought to

1:30:11 Speaker 2: kind of grasp on, and because again not much evidence

1:30:14 Speaker 2: for it. But he also had made reference to something

1:30:18 Speaker 2: else that he had talked to Matt Brown about, and

1:30:21 Speaker 2: that was that human beings are coming down to like

1:30:27 Speaker 2: the consciousness aspect that seems to be creeping into.

1:30:30 Speaker 3: The top A lot lot more souls are consciousness.

1:30:33 Speaker 2: Consciousness and arguably what do you really like? Genuinely, do

1:30:43 Speaker 2: you guys think that if we understood what consciousness was

1:30:47 Speaker 2: and and what a soul was, that the world would

1:30:50 Speaker 2: fundamentally radically change, Like do you think that that is

1:30:54 Speaker 2: worth keeping a secret of that?

1:30:56 Speaker 3: If all of mankind suddenly realized that we were all conscious,

1:30:59 Speaker 3: we all like to each other.

1:31:01 Speaker 4: Whatever it is.

1:31:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, if we were all capable of doing it, it

1:31:05 Speaker 3: would change it, sure, but if everyone can't tap into it, well,

1:31:08 Speaker 3: why would it change anything if you can't if you

1:31:10 Speaker 3: can't access it like you you so that we know

1:31:12 Speaker 3: of can't do the weird ship that I can. Right,

1:31:15 Speaker 3: if you could, you would probably maybe. Yeah, It's just

1:31:21 Speaker 3: it's everybody can't do the same thing. Everybody's the same

1:31:23 Speaker 3: access of the same frequencies. I'm I'm assuming it's frequencies

1:31:27 Speaker 3: because every time they see something weird, there's a fucking frequency.

1:31:29 Speaker 2: So when it's actually kind of where I was going

1:31:31 Speaker 2: with it.

1:31:32 Speaker 3: It's the same thing that what his face, it's sound

1:31:34 Speaker 3: light in frequency.

1:31:36 Speaker 2: You watched it too, Well, that's the thing I talk

1:31:38 Speaker 2: about a lot.

1:31:40 Speaker 5: That's supposedly the key to the universe.

1:31:41 Speaker 3: Sound, light and frequencies legitimately gave up.

1:31:44 Speaker 2: Do you know the guy Bryce?

1:31:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, I talked to him. That's what I was talking about. Bryce.

1:31:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah, okay, Brent, Brent, Brenton Bright.

1:31:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was given a piece of napkin or it

1:31:52 Speaker 2: wasn't a napkin. It was actually atm slut. It was

1:31:55 Speaker 2: at the premiere premiere of Dark Skies. Yes, he was

1:31:58 Speaker 2: having a party at his house. Show hadn't even been

1:32:01 Speaker 2: to public yet, and the guy that showed up from

1:32:05 Speaker 2: the government had already seen the first like five episodes.

1:32:08 Speaker 2: Back then, it wasn't possible like that, Like you had

1:32:11 Speaker 2: to have a physical copy of it to watch anything,

1:32:15 Speaker 2: you know, Brent. It wasn't just like here's a link

1:32:18 Speaker 2: for the screener. It was you had to have like

1:32:20 Speaker 2: a mailed copy of it. So clearly he had influence

1:32:24 Speaker 2: at the network. Yeah, Bryce, God, this is no but

1:32:26 Speaker 2: did you watch it. I've heard the story directly from Bryce.

1:32:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, but there but his guy, Brent, Brent Friedman,

1:32:32 Speaker 3: the director guy, his neighbor was something to the President

1:32:37 Speaker 3: Reagan and he was high up. So so is it

1:32:40 Speaker 3: Bryce Abele that was being recruited or is it the

1:32:42 Speaker 3: name it's Brent. Isn't it's Brent that was being recruited?

1:32:45 Speaker 3: So allegedly Brent was being Brent And he doesn't realize.

1:32:47 Speaker 3: And I told him this in a message. I go, Bro,

1:32:49 Speaker 3: you were being be recruited.

1:32:50 Speaker 4: He goes, oh my god, maybe I was.

1:32:52 Speaker 3: So the guy office of the Something of Navy Intelligence OSN.

1:32:57 Speaker 3: I that's where the guy was from, right, And yeah,

1:33:00 Speaker 3: ostinating intelligence and the guy who was his neighbor had

1:33:03 Speaker 3: a big, uh a big position with them. And I'm

1:33:07 Speaker 3: thinking that this guy has connected some way, shape or

1:33:09 Speaker 3: form to the UFO topic, because that's where they got

1:33:11 Speaker 3: the idea of Kennedy being killed because of UFOs.

1:33:13 Speaker 4: And they're like, you know how close you are to it?

1:33:15 Speaker 2: You?

1:33:15 Speaker 3: I know you don't really watch Jesse Michaels watch the

1:33:17 Speaker 3: interview with those two. It tells the entire stories outstanding.

1:33:21 Speaker 3: And that's what made me reach out to Brent to

1:33:23 Speaker 3: interview him.

1:33:23 Speaker 4: And I'm hoping.

1:33:27 Speaker 2: And I wrote on a because they like they went

1:33:31 Speaker 2: to the this guy showed up at the party.

1:33:33 Speaker 3: Like unannounced, right, it just shows up and talk to

1:33:36 Speaker 3: the one. He gets thrown up by Brent and then

1:33:37 Speaker 3: he ends up talking to Bryce.

1:33:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they end up. He's like, oh can I talk?

1:33:42 Speaker 2: You know shows there's a lot of people executives, right,

1:33:46 Speaker 2: everyone's there at the house party. I actually have pictures

1:33:50 Speaker 2: from that party for real. Yeah, he sent them all

1:33:53 Speaker 2: to me.

1:33:54 Speaker 4: That's cool.

1:33:55 Speaker 2: And this guy just shows up on announce, pulls the

1:34:00 Speaker 2: aside and it was like, you guys don't realize how

1:34:02 Speaker 2: close you are, Like Yadayada goes into all these things

1:34:06 Speaker 2: and they're kind of like, you know, they're they're distracted.

1:34:09 Speaker 2: There's a party going on. They're hosting the party, and

1:34:13 Speaker 2: they go, Okay, you've peaked our interest, but you also

1:34:18 Speaker 2: weren't invited here, so like get the fuck out, and

1:34:21 Speaker 2: he goes, okay, okay, but before I go, does anyone

1:34:25 Speaker 2: have something I can write on? And someone pulls out

1:34:27 Speaker 2: a bank slip from their purse and then he writes

1:34:31 Speaker 2: on it, folds it up. He says, in ten years,

1:34:33 Speaker 2: take this out, it might be worth more.

1:34:35 Speaker 3: Yep, you're gonna understand. You're gonna understand what this is.

1:34:37 Speaker 2: To understand more what I mean, and on. It was

1:34:40 Speaker 2: like an equation, but it essentially boiled down to sound

1:34:44 Speaker 2: like frequency.

1:34:45 Speaker 4: But they had lost it the.

1:34:47 Speaker 2: Universe, they lost it. They just he just kind of

1:34:49 Speaker 2: like found it again.

1:34:51 Speaker 4: The story is awesome telling you legend.

1:34:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's almost kind of like the it makes

1:34:56 Speaker 2: it gives me haul in and the Air Force Vibe stories. Yeah,

1:35:00 Speaker 2: you know the Air Force story about where the alien's

1:35:03 Speaker 2: land come out, talk to the government and they go back.

1:35:07 Speaker 2: It falls. I call those like legacy cases, right, cases

1:35:12 Speaker 2: that have built upology, the lore of upology, Pascal Gula Roswell.

1:35:18 Speaker 2: Those are to me legacy cases. This sound like frequency

1:35:21 Speaker 2: story for me is a legacy thing because it's ingrained

1:35:24 Speaker 2: almost into like the fabric of what I think.

1:35:28 Speaker 5: And that's where they he got all the stories from.

1:35:30 Speaker 3: He got all the stories from his neighbor who told

1:35:32 Speaker 3: them all this crazy shit Ufo Wise, and he just

1:35:35 Speaker 3: linked it into the Dark Sky Show and they were like,

1:35:38 Speaker 3: you know, how close you are? And that is allegedly

1:35:40 Speaker 3: where they He was going to them to give them

1:35:44 Speaker 3: the information, and they turned them down, and then supposedly

1:35:47 Speaker 3: he went to Spielberg and that's how Spielberg got connected.

1:35:53 Speaker 4: One of the because you said Dark Skies in my

1:35:56 Speaker 4: mind went to the series Dark Fantastic, So I gotta

1:36:01 Speaker 4: watch it.

1:36:01 Speaker 2: So oh it's so good, you have to watch it

1:36:04 Speaker 2: in German.

1:36:05 Speaker 4: Natalia was watching it in German because she speaks German.

1:36:09 Speaker 4: But you know, and so she's always looking for, you know,

1:36:12 Speaker 4: just something to keep the skills up right. So she's got,

1:36:16 Speaker 4: you know, like her Italian friend she talks to all

1:36:18 Speaker 4: the time and something German. There's only like one friend

1:36:20 Speaker 4: she has. But you know, she watched the show. So

1:36:22 Speaker 4: she found that and she you know, and like at night,

1:36:29 Speaker 4: I just know she's on there watching her you know stuff,

1:36:31 Speaker 4: and she's you know, and she was telling me about

1:36:35 Speaker 4: it as she was going and she's like, oh, yeah,

1:36:37 Speaker 4: this is like I think this is like some UFO

1:36:39 Speaker 4: things and and okay whatever. But one episode she stopped

1:36:44 Speaker 4: it and she's like, community, you gotta, you know, watch this,

1:36:48 Speaker 4: and she played the scene where the guy with the clocks,

1:36:52 Speaker 4: you know, was the clockmaker, and at some point he's

1:37:00 Speaker 4: uses the word he says, time is god. I know, right, yeah,

1:37:05 Speaker 4: And that hit her because her dad wrote that, writes

1:37:10 Speaker 4: that exact thing in his works. No no, no, yeah,

1:37:14 Speaker 4: it's in the it's.

1:37:15 Speaker 2: In there, time is gode.

1:37:20 Speaker 4: And it was.

1:37:22 Speaker 2: I heard the line in the show, but you're follow

1:37:24 Speaker 2: in all wrote.

1:37:25 Speaker 4: That he wrote. So when he when she saw that,

1:37:28 Speaker 4: she then I started watching the rest of the series

1:37:31 Speaker 4: with her in German and then you know, we watched

1:37:34 Speaker 4: it and I watched it again in English and stuff

1:37:36 Speaker 4: to because I sort of missed the whole thing or whatever,

1:37:39 Speaker 4: but it was that one phrase. She's like, got a

1:37:41 Speaker 4: chill and was like, that's what my father wrote.

1:37:45 Speaker 7: WHOA, that's crazy.

1:37:47 Speaker 2: Do you think that's I was talking about this Lenvel

1:37:51 Speaker 2: in our preparation for the interview, and we were talking

1:37:54 Speaker 2: about source. Like know, he was talking about artists, how

1:38:03 Speaker 2: a lot of people that ce UFOs that see ship

1:38:07 Speaker 2: they always tend to be creative people write more creative inclined.

1:38:13 Speaker 2: And he said, like you brought up do you think

1:38:16 Speaker 2: that they communicate in music? I said, well, root word, right, muse,

1:38:21 Speaker 2: and he just goes, right, you're on like.

1:38:25 Speaker 3: You that I was on a level, right, He like,

1:38:28 Speaker 3: who's communicating music?

1:38:30 Speaker 2: He asked. Lenville asked me if he does he think

1:38:34 Speaker 2: that an Nhi would communicate with us in music? And

1:38:39 Speaker 2: we both kind of I said that, I mean music

1:38:42 Speaker 2: is universal, just like math, music can be universal.

1:38:46 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so there's there's so there's actually a interview

1:38:49 Speaker 4: from the eighties Canadian journalist interviewed a very famous conductor.

1:38:55 Speaker 2: Because Bielberg also used it, I was just playing, yeah,

1:38:59 Speaker 2: and well that's because his mother was a composer. I

1:39:03 Speaker 2: believe one of his mother was a composer and the

1:39:06 Speaker 2: other one worked for did something else. But so that's

1:39:11 Speaker 2: why I use the song.

1:39:12 Speaker 4: But you are you could argue that he used it,

1:39:16 Speaker 4: but this this, this you know, prestigious composer and you

1:39:21 Speaker 4: know was saying exactly that that he said, if there,

1:39:24 Speaker 4: if there is a way to communicate with an alien civilization,

1:39:29 Speaker 4: it is going to be through music.

1:39:31 Speaker 2: It's like, because all music is vibration, right it is.

1:39:35 Speaker 3: And if you and if you put sand on like

1:39:37 Speaker 3: a sheet and patterns, yeah, and and crazy pats, that's

1:39:42 Speaker 3: just crazy to Yeah.

1:39:43 Speaker 4: So you know, so again you all know my my

1:39:46 Speaker 4: opera connections, you know, and and interest and all the

1:39:49 Speaker 4: rest of it. But there's so much you know between

1:39:53 Speaker 4: you know, in that history that speaks to it. So

1:39:58 Speaker 4: when you know everyone's talking about the you know, the

1:40:00 Speaker 4: god frequencies and things like that, these composers wrote in

1:40:06 Speaker 4: those frequencies sound frequency they wrote right, and and you

1:40:09 Speaker 4: go into sacred music and you know, all these different elements.

1:40:14 Speaker 4: And one of the when we started our opera company,

1:40:19 Speaker 4: you know, when we were like, you know, how are

1:40:21 Speaker 4: we going to frame this? How do you you know?

1:40:23 Speaker 4: It's like because you know, now everything is competition for

1:40:28 Speaker 4: entertainment dollars, right, nobody has arts dollars in their budget,

1:40:34 Speaker 4: but they have entertainment dollars. Right, So now we've got

1:40:37 Speaker 4: to convince somebody spend forty dollars coming to see this

1:40:41 Speaker 4: opera versus downloading a new game or doing something else, right,

1:40:47 Speaker 4: because that's the that's the budget that it's coming from.

1:40:51 Speaker 4: And you know, and you look at again all the

1:40:55 Speaker 4: studies of the psychology of music, and why do you know,

1:40:59 Speaker 4: the this stereotype of you know, well, rich people you

1:41:04 Speaker 4: know like opera and like classical music and and things

1:41:08 Speaker 4: like that. You know, but there's there's you know, actual

1:41:13 Speaker 4: scientific structure behind the ideas, right that there's people who

1:41:22 Speaker 4: listen to classical music do better academically. And when you

1:41:27 Speaker 4: do better academically, you know, in elementary school and in

1:41:33 Speaker 4: high school, you get into a better college. You get

1:41:36 Speaker 4: into a better college, you get into a better job,

1:41:38 Speaker 4: you get you know, and and you know, there's all

1:41:43 Speaker 4: that connecting it. And if you think about society in general,

1:41:49 Speaker 4: and you think about the evolution or probably more close

1:41:53 Speaker 4: to what I was talking about, the de evolution of music,

1:41:57 Speaker 4: when you think that it's well, when you think in

1:42:02 Speaker 4: terms of like, you know, there's a band that or

1:42:05 Speaker 4: a group of comedian musicians who do a whole bit

1:42:09 Speaker 4: about how every number one song.

1:42:14 Speaker 3: The ords, you know, it is the power chords, right

1:42:17 Speaker 3: it truly is it?

1:42:18 Speaker 4: Truly? Is do you play music? I don't play music,

1:42:22 Speaker 4: Yeah right, I play drums in a little guitar, literally

1:42:26 Speaker 4: the same four chords. So, however, classical music, sacred music,

1:42:34 Speaker 4: things like that is structuringly much more complex, and and

1:42:39 Speaker 4: it ultimately impacts emotional intelligence. And so has there been,

1:42:49 Speaker 4: you know, has there been an intense, intensive effort to

1:42:56 Speaker 4: dumb down music.

1:42:58 Speaker 2: In a way to limit the vibrational capacity of human.

1:43:03 Speaker 4: Being that disconnects us not only from these universal frequencies

1:43:10 Speaker 4: that the likes of classical music you know provides sh

1:43:16 Speaker 4: but and and so this is why now people are

1:43:20 Speaker 4: coming back to listen to the frequency. You don't need

1:43:23 Speaker 4: to listen to the frequencies you can. You can put

1:43:25 Speaker 4: on any classical music. These you can put on operas

1:43:29 Speaker 4: and get that same net effect as listening to Ona does.

1:43:37 Speaker 2: When I studied, rarely, uh very rarely did I ever,

1:43:43 Speaker 2: you know, put a book in like really study couldn't

1:43:47 Speaker 2: tell you listen to classical music while you study.

1:43:53 Speaker 4: Yes, it activated Again, all those studies are not the

1:43:56 Speaker 4: parts of the brain that it that it activates. And

1:43:59 Speaker 4: it's good, you know, And and I joke about you

1:44:02 Speaker 4: know that, like we we have been more proud of

1:44:09 Speaker 4: the times when we've had guys that, you know, old

1:44:13 Speaker 4: neighborhood friends, street guys from Medford where you're staying and

1:44:17 Speaker 4: you know that have come to be supportive. Right. They

1:44:22 Speaker 4: didn't didn't necessarily come up because they're friends, but or

1:44:25 Speaker 4: you know, fans. They came because they're being supportive of

1:44:28 Speaker 4: you know, Nat and I and you know, we go

1:44:30 Speaker 4: back and you know, the neighborhood and shit like that.

1:44:33 Speaker 4: That's what you do. And those guys break into tears

1:44:36 Speaker 4: and they don't understand.

1:44:37 Speaker 5: Why because it hits, it hits something.

1:44:39 Speaker 4: Because that frequency hit something, it has has resonated right

1:44:44 Speaker 4: the frequent and the emotional intelligence has been activated that

1:44:50 Speaker 4: isn't there. And that's why people don't like it, because

1:44:56 Speaker 4: it forces you to confront subliminally parts of your brain

1:45:07 Speaker 4: and your nervous system that have been numbed by the

1:45:12 Speaker 4: same fucking four chords. And it becomes uncomfortable.

1:45:17 Speaker 3: No, because those four chords, those four chords, like it's

1:45:20 Speaker 3: something in humans that you're attracted. Humans are literally attracted

1:45:24 Speaker 3: to those four chords. It doesn't matter in which order

1:45:27 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter how they go. But those particular four

1:45:29 Speaker 3: chords are the god chords and music right, so so

1:45:33 Speaker 3: so then then the they're not the God code.

1:45:37 Speaker 4: I mean, they're God God chords.

1:45:39 Speaker 3: Chords like like every yeah, everybody doesn't every pop song

1:45:43 Speaker 3: every right.

1:45:45 Speaker 4: When I was in the.

1:45:46 Speaker 2: Sound bath, it felt like I was painfully like it

1:45:50 Speaker 2: was a painful meditation, but it was perfect and and

1:45:54 Speaker 2: so you know, and this is.

1:45:56 Speaker 4: What again, the the you know people have come have

1:46:00 Speaker 4: sort of turned the corner and realize that, and they've

1:46:03 Speaker 4: created it into a niche industry where there, you know,

1:46:06 Speaker 4: you get your woh wah wah wah wah wah wah

1:46:08 Speaker 4: or you know, your you know, soundscapes and ship like that.

1:46:13 Speaker 4: You don't need that. All that shit already exists in

1:46:17 Speaker 4: classical music, right, all the tuning force, Yeah, all that's

1:46:23 Speaker 4: you know already there. And then you couple the lyric,

1:46:27 Speaker 4: you couple you know, sights and sounds, you know, and

1:46:30 Speaker 4: you can really build that whole emotional infrastructure I was

1:46:37 Speaker 4: gonna get in the pillow, yeah, and you know, and

1:46:42 Speaker 4: and and it's again, it's funny because it just seems

1:46:44 Speaker 4: to be coming back around to that thing and it

1:46:48 Speaker 4: speaks to the you know, Beatrice Villa real It is

1:46:51 Speaker 4: a brilliant musician herself violinist.

1:46:53 Speaker 2: So okay, back to the question, do you think that

1:46:57 Speaker 2: that there is something there that Native people are the key.

1:47:02 Speaker 4: To its father was a musician, Yes, he was a

1:47:05 Speaker 4: He was a guitarist. He played something guitars something else

1:47:09 Speaker 4: that they play. So yeah, we did.

1:47:11 Speaker 3: And people who have perfect pitch and all that stuff,

1:47:13 Speaker 3: a lot of them are autistic in their brains, can

1:47:15 Speaker 3: reach different levels.

1:47:17 Speaker 4: Right, Natalia has perfect pit.

1:47:18 Speaker 3: My wife has perfect pitch. She's autistic. Her father had

1:47:21 Speaker 3: perfect pitch. I don't know if he's autistic or not.

1:47:22 Speaker 3: But my wife is like Elon Mush. She's high functioning, auditions,

1:47:25 Speaker 3: highly intelligent. She can sit there and no musical training whatsoever.

1:47:29 Speaker 3: She can sit there with your tar hand here a song, go,

1:47:32 Speaker 3: pink thing whatever.

1:47:33 Speaker 4: She hears that pianos Santon. And some people see something

1:47:38 Speaker 4: autistic from birth. Some people see colors in sound or they.

1:47:43 Speaker 2: Crazy part you know that scene color And we talked

1:47:48 Speaker 2: about that, right, But apparently every element has a vibration

1:47:53 Speaker 2: as well, So elements like the literal, the elemental, the element.

1:48:00 Speaker 2: So what God, the periodic table. Every single element has

1:48:08 Speaker 2: a musical note that tunes, that is tuned to that.

1:48:12 Speaker 4: That that's good. My color ship put her in guitar

1:48:17 Speaker 4: hero my wife.

1:48:21 Speaker 5: Yeah, entering championships and make money, that's great.

1:48:25 Speaker 4: But you know so yeah, I mean music is but

1:48:30 Speaker 4: it's not just music.

1:48:31 Speaker 2: It's it's creating creativity. And where does creativity come from?

1:48:37 Speaker 4: Consciousness? I'm assuming I were to.

1:48:39 Speaker 2: Say or the muse right, the root word for music, muse, amusement.

1:48:45 Speaker 4: It's just creator, right.

1:48:49 Speaker 2: See, we're going down. That's where that's where I start

1:48:53 Speaker 2: thinking that. You know, we know time doesn't exist the

1:48:56 Speaker 2: way we experience it. Literally, time doesn't exactly exist the

1:49:01 Speaker 2: way we think it does, but it's it's definitely there,

1:49:05 Speaker 2: like we can't. We we all agree that time, even

1:49:08 Speaker 2: though the time that we use is man made, there

1:49:11 Speaker 2: has to be some sort of calculation, calculation to the

1:49:14 Speaker 2: to the universe for sure.

1:49:17 Speaker 4: Why what do you mean.

1:49:20 Speaker 2: It has to be a forward, a backward, a diagonal?

1:49:24 Speaker 5: No, well no, because it isn't time.

1:49:27 Speaker 2: Fucking They would have the atomic clock, right, don't they

1:49:32 Speaker 2: use an atomic clock to keep the actual like real

1:49:35 Speaker 2: time because off each other?

1:49:39 Speaker 4: So what time is linked? To gravity? Is it not?

1:49:41 Speaker 2: And that's I don't know. I'm not that smart. But

1:49:46 Speaker 2: when he says time is God, but I'm boiling laid

1:49:49 Speaker 2: down time being the one thing that we can't really

1:49:54 Speaker 2: understand or or buy more of? Right?

1:49:57 Speaker 4: Is that?

1:49:58 Speaker 2: Is that the universe it's health? Is that God? It

1:50:05 Speaker 2: seems logical to me that if we're pulling from source

1:50:10 Speaker 2: to pull music out of the ether, what could we

1:50:14 Speaker 2: be pulling it from. Either the muse is God and

1:50:19 Speaker 2: the universe in entirety is God?

1:50:22 Speaker 4: Or there is.

1:50:28 Speaker 2: Everything exists, everything is really just?

1:50:31 Speaker 3: But there does there need to be a God in

1:50:33 Speaker 3: order for life? And things like does it need to

1:50:35 Speaker 3: be does it need to be God in order for

1:50:37 Speaker 3: it to matter to you?

1:50:38 Speaker 4: Like this is I'm just kidding.

1:50:40 Speaker 2: No, we're here for a reason. Life's too precious. The universe,

1:50:45 Speaker 2: it's not wasteful. It's not wasteful.

1:50:49 Speaker 4: But if you ever have you ever thought?

1:50:50 Speaker 2: But what the time does God? Mean? Is what I'm asking.

1:50:54 Speaker 2: I don't know what does it mean to you?

1:50:57 Speaker 4: What's it mean to me? The time is God?

1:51:01 Speaker 2: Is that?

1:51:02 Speaker 1: It is?

1:51:02 Speaker 4: The I guess it's almost the mechanism, you know, the

1:51:09 Speaker 4: mechanism that brings everything into creation.

1:51:12 Speaker 2: And so.

1:51:14 Speaker 4: There is no there is no.

1:51:19 Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock. I guess.

1:51:22 Speaker 4: There is only now. Yeah, there is only the present,

1:51:28 Speaker 4: and all things happen.

1:51:31 Speaker 3: Only in the press, all right, right, so it's okay,

1:51:35 Speaker 3: I guess.

1:51:37 Speaker 4: It will happen only in the present. You can, okay.

1:51:41 Speaker 3: So for the case in point, it took me, however,

1:51:44 Speaker 3: many years to get on Twitter, right, So I finally

1:51:46 Speaker 3: got on Twitter last year, and that's how I met

1:51:48 Speaker 3: you guys. Without me getting on Twitter at that point

1:51:50 Speaker 3: in time, never would have.

1:51:52 Speaker 5: Linked up with it. Two you and I wouldn't be

1:51:53 Speaker 5: sitting here.

1:51:54 Speaker 4: We would have had the weird ghost out there like

1:51:56 Speaker 4: it's fucking that still just happened.

1:51:58 Speaker 2: Now, correct, And it took So you're saying that just

1:52:01 Speaker 2: happened now now it's happening now.

1:52:05 Speaker 4: That is just so.

1:52:11 Speaker 2: Entanglement would come from.

1:52:13 Speaker 4: So it didn't happen a hero. It happening right.

1:52:15 Speaker 2: Now, simultaneously to this moment right now, correct, in that

1:52:19 Speaker 2: moment right now. And I've said that before that all

1:52:23 Speaker 2: life is is a bunch of now is compiled, right,

1:52:26 Speaker 2: and that what you're saying.

1:52:27 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. But also that that if you start.

1:52:31 Speaker 4: So I think it was Eric Hecker that was talking

1:52:35 Speaker 4: about the book. We're going to bring him up here.

1:52:38 Speaker 4: I've been doing great. There's there's this book, and and

1:52:42 Speaker 4: what a challenges you to do is two not give

1:52:49 Speaker 4: anything a name, to not identify anything. So you look

1:52:54 Speaker 4: at this and you're like, that's a microphone, right, Okay,

1:52:57 Speaker 4: Try to do that and not have that judgment. What

1:53:03 Speaker 4: do you mean judgment that there's a name to that? Oh,

1:53:07 Speaker 4: it just is take away whatever it is, the thing

1:53:11 Speaker 4: that you're told that it is, and I want to

1:53:14 Speaker 4: just let it be and and get that out of

1:53:21 Speaker 4: your head of what it is and what it does

1:53:23 Speaker 4: and things like that.

1:53:25 Speaker 3: Try that much mushrooms did he do before the show?

1:53:27 Speaker 4: Try that? Try that exercise.

1:53:30 Speaker 5: I've been doing it, tripping mushrooms.

1:53:32 Speaker 4: No, I've been doing this exercise of.

1:53:43 Speaker 2: Of no.

1:53:45 Speaker 4: And it's not and it's not even the thing of

1:53:47 Speaker 4: concentrating on it. It's the as you things come into

1:53:54 Speaker 4: your awareness.

1:53:55 Speaker 3: And folks, did you have an epiphany since you fucking

1:53:57 Speaker 3: touched that metal? Honestly, like, you definitely change a little bit.

1:54:00 Speaker 3: You seem more clear, way more clear to me than

1:54:04 Speaker 3: fucking previously.

1:54:06 Speaker 2: I just not ask the right question.

1:54:10 Speaker 4: It's honestly, it's it's been living with this my father

1:54:13 Speaker 4: in law stuff for the last six.

1:54:15 Speaker 3: Years, right, But then, I mean the freedom of being

1:54:17 Speaker 3: able to move freely without pain has to be a

1:54:20 Speaker 3: huge like yeah, I.

1:54:21 Speaker 4: Mean I can't say I know, you know I noticed.

1:54:23 Speaker 5: That particularly second least in life, you know what I

1:54:25 Speaker 5: mean noticed.

1:54:28 Speaker 4: Spending time with this, living in this material now is

1:54:35 Speaker 4: a gift that it it has, It has activated something,

1:54:43 Speaker 4: I guess to a degree because things come to me

1:54:48 Speaker 4: in a way. Now, clarity comes to me in a way.

1:54:52 Speaker 3: Did you seriously seem more clear mentally?

1:54:56 Speaker 2: What's that it's taking a bless space in your head

1:54:59 Speaker 2: to you don't have to focus on that ship Maybe no,

1:55:02 Speaker 2: but I think.

1:55:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean I mean it's something changed.

1:55:06 Speaker 5: I'm for real.

1:55:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know of course that. But I'm just saying

1:55:10 Speaker 4: in general, it's oh.

1:55:12 Speaker 2: It's coket it. I get it. It's coke that made

1:55:16 Speaker 2: them clear.

1:55:17 Speaker 4: No, but it's it's trying to trying to think of examples,

1:55:25 Speaker 4: like literally, I can be brushing, like I can be

1:55:29 Speaker 4: getting ready for bed at night.

1:55:30 Speaker 2: No, I know what you and I've had it.

1:55:34 Speaker 4: That thing comes in my head that is put something together,

1:55:41 Speaker 4: or or the question that needs to be asked, you know.

1:55:48 Speaker 4: And I'll go to sleep and sometimes I'll wake up

1:55:52 Speaker 4: three hours later and it's there, it's crystal clear, or

1:55:59 Speaker 4: like the next morning. And that's why I'll sit and

1:56:01 Speaker 4: dive into it and work on it and all of that.

1:56:04 Speaker 4: But it's not. But I can easily walk away from

1:56:07 Speaker 4: it too. So that's why I say, it's not like

1:56:10 Speaker 4: an obsession thing like I gotta figure this out or

1:56:13 Speaker 4: whatever it's it comes to me, it's clear. I have

1:56:18 Speaker 4: to get it down on paper, you know, on them whatever.

1:56:22 Speaker 4: I have to get it down. I have to get

1:56:25 Speaker 4: it out, and then I can walk away from it.

1:56:29 Speaker 4: It doesn't eat at me or whatever. And then it

1:56:34 Speaker 4: just starts fitting in wherever, you know, wherever it needs

1:56:39 Speaker 4: to fit, you know. And again I've I've always had

1:56:46 Speaker 4: a sort of analytical mind in that way.

1:56:48 Speaker 3: And no, but dude, you're definitely a lot more fucking

1:56:51 Speaker 3: you've been on Like like just seeing you now, being

1:56:53 Speaker 3: in a room with you, you seem like you're more

1:56:56 Speaker 3: on fire lightly and like you want to touch me.

1:56:58 Speaker 3: No maybe later, no, but you just you just seem

1:57:02 Speaker 3: like you're a lot more full of life, like like,

1:57:04 Speaker 3: I don't know, like since just seeing you walk around

1:57:07 Speaker 3: is great and I'm glad to see it. You did

1:57:09 Speaker 3: you deserve it, man, you're a good dude.

1:57:11 Speaker 2: That could be what it is?

1:57:14 Speaker 5: What is it that you oh touching the metal and

1:57:17 Speaker 5: just yeah, if it's gotta be.

1:57:20 Speaker 2: I hate to sound like this, but like because I

1:57:22 Speaker 2: don't want to make it sound like it's fucking Thor's

1:57:24 Speaker 2: hammer and you have to be worthy of it. But

1:57:27 Speaker 2: maybe maybe it maybe like who are we to say

1:57:32 Speaker 2: that it didn't just it doesn't resonate at some sort

1:57:35 Speaker 2: of vibe.

1:57:37 Speaker 3: Might have been kind of tuned you back, Yeah, might yeah,

1:57:40 Speaker 3: it might have retuned you for sure.

1:57:41 Speaker 4: Always well, right, I've always believed, right, these things of

1:57:45 Speaker 4: people are in your life for a reason. You you know,

1:57:48 Speaker 4: have relationships for a reason. You connect or you don't connect.

1:57:52 Speaker 4: You know that the universe brings you together, and the

1:57:56 Speaker 4: universe brings you to where you need to be, you know,

1:57:58 Speaker 4: at the right time, and and all that. And you know, again,

1:58:03 Speaker 4: I look at my own life, my own life, my

1:58:05 Speaker 4: own path. Right, this was not what I had planned, right,

1:58:09 Speaker 4: This wasn't I wasn't looking for a retirement hobby and

1:58:14 Speaker 4: this and that things fell into place that created the opportunities,

1:58:21 Speaker 4: let's say, or or put the path in front of me.

1:58:25 Speaker 4: So I could have just as easily been like, Wow,

1:58:31 Speaker 4: this is really cool. We're going to stick it on

1:58:35 Speaker 4: the shelf. And we got a really cool thing from

1:58:37 Speaker 4: NAT's dad that we don't know what it is, and

1:58:40 Speaker 4: you know, that's great. But the circumstances of my life

1:58:45 Speaker 4: at the time allowed me to spend time on it

1:58:49 Speaker 4: and give thought to it and made me think, is

1:58:54 Speaker 4: this something that needs to you know, go further and

1:58:58 Speaker 4: all of that. And so it's the you know, kind

1:59:01 Speaker 4: of saying yes to that that's like me great people,

1:59:07 Speaker 4: new friends, they get it, you know, and and all

1:59:10 Speaker 4: the rest of it. Yeah, and accepting the challenge. And

1:59:13 Speaker 4: you know, you all know how frustrating frustrated it is,

1:59:17 Speaker 4: how frustrated I get. And you know how I sit

1:59:20 Speaker 4: back and I'm like, I don't need any of this bullshit.

1:59:23 Speaker 4: You know, what do I need to I don't need

1:59:25 Speaker 4: to do any of this.

1:59:27 Speaker 2: You know, every time that I'm like, hey, we have

1:59:29 Speaker 2: a guest that I'm like, he's gonna say no because

1:59:31 Speaker 2: he just doesn't need to be here. And then you know,

1:59:34 Speaker 2: he's here because he wants to be.

1:59:37 Speaker 4: I'm paying him, guys, right, Like, I want to help out.

1:59:41 Speaker 2: And that's why everyone's like, why does he leave before

1:59:44 Speaker 2: the members section? I was like, because he wants to

1:59:47 Speaker 2: to your fucking business, either above your pay grade.

1:59:51 Speaker 4: I do it because I enjoy your company. I enjoy

1:59:53 Speaker 4: the discussions. I enjoy someone really asked me that.

1:59:56 Speaker 2: They're like, I told him the story that I enjoy

1:59:59 Speaker 2: before the I go because he wants to.

2:00:03 Speaker 4: So I enjoy eating pretzels and making you you know,

2:00:05 Speaker 4: and aggravating you and shit like that. And again, I mean,

2:00:09 Speaker 4: you know, I have a whole other circle of friends

2:00:11 Speaker 4: I still have, you know, outside of all of this,

2:00:15 Speaker 4: and and you know again, but I've again, I I

2:00:20 Speaker 4: also sort of feel a sense of all obligation to

2:00:22 Speaker 4: finish what I started, you know a lot of the

2:00:26 Speaker 4: other stuff. Yeah, I sit back and I'm like, do

2:00:28 Speaker 4: I really need it? Do I really need it? And

2:00:31 Speaker 4: I just sit back and I'm like, if this is

2:00:33 Speaker 4: what I'm being guided to do, I need to do it.

2:00:36 Speaker 4: If this is what If this is what I have

2:00:38 Speaker 4: been you know, the inspiration was planted in me somehow

2:00:43 Speaker 4: to do this this, this, and this. So I'm like,

2:00:47 Speaker 4: all right, I want to see what it's where it goes,

2:00:50 Speaker 4: right God?

2:00:52 Speaker 2: And that's I mean, do you believe you believe in

2:00:56 Speaker 2: like fate in a way like fate and death.

2:01:01 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

2:01:02 Speaker 3: Like what I'm saying, right, And I'm just fight didn't

2:01:05 Speaker 3: pop on a Twitter at that very moment in time,

2:01:07 Speaker 3: I never would have met him, and then I never

2:01:09 Speaker 3: would have got on your show, and then we never

2:01:11 Speaker 3: went to DC. Like it's it's crazy, but it's the true.

2:01:13 Speaker 3: Things happen for a reason when they're supposed to happen, right,

2:01:16 Speaker 3: Just like I could have become a firefighter at twenty

2:01:18 Speaker 3: two years old, I did, and I did it when

2:01:20 Speaker 3: I was old at thirty seven and thirty seven year

2:01:23 Speaker 3: old rookie.

2:01:23 Speaker 4: You don't know the reason. You never know the reason

2:01:26 Speaker 4: for it. In the time, I again, I say it

2:01:28 Speaker 4: about Natalia and our relationship and all of this that

2:01:32 Speaker 4: has come from it. Right, I had listen, I was

2:01:37 Speaker 4: living a great bachelor life. Right. My friends used to laugh.

2:01:41 Speaker 4: They were like, you know, they used to be like,

2:01:43 Speaker 4: oh Jane, They like, yeah, Jeane, you know, twenty five

2:01:46 Speaker 4: twenty six year old girls that's like, for some reason,

2:01:48 Speaker 4: that's it. That's his wheel outside all those co ed's

2:01:52 Speaker 4: up in New York.

2:01:53 Speaker 2: I'm sure we should be admitting this right now.

2:01:56 Speaker 5: Poor hey, listen, if I didn't have my wife, I'd

2:01:59 Speaker 5: be a horse.

2:02:00 Speaker 4: You know my wife. You know my wife even new

2:02:03 Speaker 4: you know my my place was called the stabing Cabin, right,

2:02:06 Speaker 4: you know. I was having a perfectly fine bachelor life.

2:02:16 Speaker 4: I was finishing. I was like, I'm going to retire,

2:02:19 Speaker 4: I'm going to go to Malta. I'm going to have

2:02:21 Speaker 4: a perfectly fine Mediterranean bachelor life.

2:02:25 Speaker 5: You never heard that as a whole porn site.

2:02:29 Speaker 4: Stabbing cabin, yea. Yeah. I was a raving pervert, you know,

2:02:35 Speaker 4: but met the you know and again chance meaning met

2:02:41 Speaker 4: this beautiful woman right, chance meaning that like with the

2:02:48 Speaker 4: offera stuff. Right. I learned about it in high school

2:02:53 Speaker 4: in Italian class. I kept that interest through my life,

2:03:00 Speaker 4: right and then I don't know if I you know

2:03:03 Speaker 4: or you know the story. So in high school Italian class,

2:03:08 Speaker 4: the teacher was a So the high school I went

2:03:11 Speaker 4: to run a religious all boys private high school run

2:03:15 Speaker 4: by the Order of Xavarian Brothers and Brothers.

2:03:22 Speaker 3: I heard something different Bavarian monks, right, Bavarian monk, Saverian

2:03:28 Speaker 3: Saint Francis Xavier. Okay, so I thought you said he

2:03:32 Speaker 3: did not say Arian for those Okay, did not say Arian.

2:03:39 Speaker 4: Yes, so the.

2:03:42 Speaker 2: Private he said is nine extra times after.

2:03:46 Speaker 4: I was like, so the opera that he played and

2:03:54 Speaker 4: we you know, studied, let's say, was was Turando where

2:03:58 Speaker 4: nessun dorma? That the one opera song everybody knows Pavarotti

2:04:02 Speaker 4: and Harri Butchelli saying, you know, Ventiov and Charov.

2:04:05 Speaker 2: And like you're talking a foreign language for a second.

2:04:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. Literally, it is a foreign language. It's Italian.

2:04:16 Speaker 3: Irish.

2:04:16 Speaker 4: That's nobody sleeps goddamn Irish Irish people. So that was it.

2:04:23 Speaker 4: So now I'm in Latvia, I'm meeting Natalia things, you know,

2:04:27 Speaker 4: I had to come back to the US. I went

2:04:29 Speaker 4: back over there and one of her friends, it was

2:04:33 Speaker 4: a tenor, was singing the lead role in Torondo at

2:04:37 Speaker 4: the lot Via National Opera and he said, oh, you know,

2:04:41 Speaker 4: do you and your your new fellow want to come

2:04:44 Speaker 4: and and see him. We're yeah, absolutely. That week when

2:04:51 Speaker 4: the performance was I had found out that that teacher,

2:04:57 Speaker 4: the brother who you know, introduced me to opera from

2:05:01 Speaker 4: via the via the opera turn Doo was killed and

2:05:06 Speaker 4: a hit and run accident in Melrose, Jesus Christ. It's

2:05:09 Speaker 4: still unsolved. They he was he was retired, he was

2:05:14 Speaker 4: out taking a morning walk, hit and run. They left

2:05:19 Speaker 4: him to die in the street.

2:05:26 Speaker 3: So way to kill the story, Jean, I was laughing,

2:05:30 Speaker 3: thanks a lot, But you know.

2:05:34 Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying. When it's like fate and

2:05:36 Speaker 4: the universe bring it up, you know, these are the

2:05:38 Speaker 4: things where it's like, how is that not the idea?

2:05:41 Speaker 4: So now we've got to go sit and listen to

2:05:47 Speaker 4: that opera that he just seeing that that gave me

2:05:53 Speaker 4: that it fifteen years old, you know, introduced me to

2:05:59 Speaker 4: this thing that I wound up liking and following and

2:06:04 Speaker 4: learning more about through my life. That gave me this

2:06:09 Speaker 4: chance when this super beautiful woman was sitting across from me.

2:06:14 Speaker 4: For the career that I had and the things that

2:06:17 Speaker 4: I've done in my life, you know, hard to relate

2:06:20 Speaker 4: to people sometimes, but here was this one thing that

2:06:25 Speaker 4: like we instantly shared or that I could share with

2:06:28 Speaker 4: her that I knew. And then we went and sat

2:06:33 Speaker 4: there and at the intermission, we like went backstage and

2:06:39 Speaker 4: to see the guy the tenor and thank him, and

2:06:42 Speaker 4: I'm telling him the story and I'm worse than I

2:06:45 Speaker 4: am now because it's fresh and it just happened that week.

2:06:49 Speaker 4: And I'm telling him the story and I'm crying, and

2:06:51 Speaker 4: he's crying, and he's like, this is why I do this,

2:06:54 Speaker 4: This is why you know I love this art and

2:06:57 Speaker 4: da da da da, you know, and all of that,

2:07:00 Speaker 4: And so that's what I say. It's like, even now,

2:07:03 Speaker 4: my son goes to the same high school that I

2:07:05 Speaker 4: went to, and he talks about the things that he's learning,

2:07:08 Speaker 4: and I tell them all, someday, as stupid or as

2:07:12 Speaker 4: insignificant as this thing that you're learning might be, it

2:07:17 Speaker 4: could change your life. That there is something that you

2:07:21 Speaker 4: that can happen to you that seems absolutely meaningless in

2:07:26 Speaker 4: the moment, that some point later on will change, you know,

2:07:30 Speaker 4: can change your life.

2:07:32 Speaker 5: You see the chat, So.

2:07:39 Speaker 4: And then never mind the rest of this craziness that's happened.

2:07:44 Speaker 4: What's its same?

2:07:48 Speaker 3: But Mike said, it's a romantic story. But I'm not

2:07:50 Speaker 3: crying if this story ends up at the stabbing Kevin.

2:07:56 Speaker 4: Well. So the yeah, the you know, the funny thing

2:07:58 Speaker 4: about that, like, then that and I get married, right,

2:08:01 Speaker 4: well then.

2:08:02 Speaker 2: Her father like almost have like a premonition that she

2:08:06 Speaker 2: would be with the.

2:08:07 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, that was like in twenty fifteen, before

2:08:09 Speaker 4: she ever met me, she'd be with some crazy American

2:08:13 Speaker 4: so specific though, So she she had a she had

2:08:16 Speaker 4: a boyfriend who was Dutch from the Netherlands and yeah

2:08:24 Speaker 4: before me, and he sent her, you know, he kind

2:08:30 Speaker 4: of paid for the trip for her to go see

2:08:32 Speaker 4: her dad. Sh hadon seen her dad for a while.

2:08:34 Speaker 4: He was in Kazakhstan, she's in Latvia. He's like, well,

2:08:37 Speaker 4: you know, I'll pay for you a trip to go

2:08:39 Speaker 4: there or whatever. So she went. So while she was there,

2:08:45 Speaker 4: her dad said to her, so, how's your how's your

2:08:50 Speaker 4: CIA boyfriend? And she's like, I don't have a CIA boyfriend,

2:08:56 Speaker 4: you know. And he's like, no, the CIA, the American,

2:09:00 Speaker 4: the CIA guy. I sent him to you twenty fifteen.

2:09:06 Speaker 2: And so this guy's what Dutch and not in the

2:09:09 Speaker 2: CIA obviously correct, very opposite of what he's saying.

2:09:13 Speaker 4: But her dad was like, her dad was like confused,

2:09:18 Speaker 4: he didn't understand because as.

2:09:20 Speaker 2: Far as he was like, he's living in a different Oh.

2:09:25 Speaker 5: Shit, maybe it's a different time.

2:09:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he was a fucking UFO guy is messing

2:09:29 Speaker 3: with shit, he's getting maybe no.

2:09:32 Speaker 4: Maybe he's like I sent I sent this guy to you.

2:09:36 Speaker 4: How did how did he send you to Again? She

2:09:42 Speaker 4: thinks he's just fucking drunk and talking bullshit? How we do?

2:09:46 Speaker 3: And this was twenty fifteen before you guys got together?

2:09:49 Speaker 4: When did you? When did you guys get together? Seventeen

2:09:52 Speaker 4: two years later?

2:09:54 Speaker 2: That's a big gap.

2:09:55 Speaker 4: Man.

2:09:56 Speaker 5: How long did her father?

2:09:58 Speaker 4: Was he you met?

2:10:00 Speaker 5: It was he alive when you yeah with him?

2:10:02 Speaker 4: So I never met him face that we met like

2:10:05 Speaker 4: over a video.

2:10:06 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but but okay, what did you ever say

2:10:08 Speaker 3: about And then she's dating a CIA boyfriend?

2:10:11 Speaker 4: Well then it was also but here, well, here's here's

2:10:14 Speaker 4: the twist. I was still within the window of my clearances,

2:10:19 Speaker 4: so you were still actually where I wasn't saying. I

2:10:23 Speaker 4: wasn't talking about any of that. It was just I

2:10:27 Speaker 4: did global security in oil and gas. Now like now

2:10:32 Speaker 4: that when like that? When to work for right that

2:10:35 Speaker 4: went to work? You know, when she started working, there

2:10:37 Speaker 4: was a guy from Nigeria that she worked with and

2:10:39 Speaker 4: became friends with, and she said to him mom or

2:10:42 Speaker 4: he said, oh, well, what's your husband doing? Always retired

2:10:45 Speaker 4: now And he said, well, what did he do? And

2:10:47 Speaker 4: she said the job title that you know I taught

2:10:50 Speaker 4: her that I had. Oh he was because she's telling him, Oh,

2:10:54 Speaker 4: my husband's been to Nigeria a ton of times. Well

2:10:57 Speaker 4: what did he do? Oh he worked for SHILD. Well

2:10:59 Speaker 4: what did he do with child? Oh he was did

2:11:01 Speaker 4: GEO political and transnational Security risk management. And the Nigerian

2:11:06 Speaker 4: guy goes, oh he was CIA. And again that same

2:11:15 Speaker 4: time period twenty seventeen, this is when the whistleblower stuff started,

2:11:19 Speaker 4: the corporate whistle blowing started anything. So her dad was

2:11:25 Speaker 4: gone before I ever really put the CIA out and

2:11:31 Speaker 4: named the agencies that I contracted with and stuff like that.

2:11:35 Speaker 4: When did he passed away? Twenty nineteen December thirty. Okay,

2:11:39 Speaker 4: so forty.

2:11:40 Speaker 2: It's a mission. That's weird, man, now that I think

2:11:44 Speaker 2: about it. Could you have been getting his now's confused,

2:11:50 Speaker 2: but you.

2:11:50 Speaker 4: Know, back whistling Mike stamming, kamit things. So the funny

2:11:53 Speaker 4: thing was like two best friends at the time they

2:11:59 Speaker 4: were married, right, so like they were living vicariously through

2:12:02 Speaker 4: me and my exploits. Natalia and I get married. Within

2:12:07 Speaker 4: a year, they're both divorced, right, So, like one day

2:12:11 Speaker 4: in to Talia is like, she goes, it's so sad

2:12:13 Speaker 4: that Mario and Shane are divorced now. And I was like,

2:12:20 Speaker 4: and she goes, oh yeah, She's like, et ccha. She goes,

2:12:22 Speaker 4: you know, we got married and now Mario and Shane

2:12:25 Speaker 4: are divorced. She's like, that's kind of sad. I know.

2:12:28 Speaker 4: I go, I know, think about it, we all could

2:12:29 Speaker 4: have finally been single at the same time. Fucked.

2:12:35 Speaker 3: Mike said, what month in twenty fifteen, Let's see how

2:12:37 Speaker 3: where this story gets for me?

2:12:39 Speaker 4: What's up?

2:12:40 Speaker 3: Mike said, what month in twenty fifteen? He wants to

2:12:43 Speaker 3: see how weird the story gets for him as well.

2:12:45 Speaker 4: I don't know, I get it. I'll have to ask

2:12:46 Speaker 4: her if there's relevance, I can ask her.

2:12:49 Speaker 2: I just always find that's trying to that story always

2:12:53 Speaker 2: stuck up.

2:12:53 Speaker 7: It's fucking crazy.

2:12:54 Speaker 4: As you see, I hate boyfriend.

2:12:56 Speaker 2: That's when he told me that story. That was the

2:12:58 Speaker 2: one that kind of one of the ones that sealed

2:12:59 Speaker 2: it for me. Yeah, it feels like some sort of deal. Mad.

2:13:02 Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta see what this is all

2:13:04 Speaker 2: about because it could have been a long line of synchronicity.

2:13:07 Speaker 3: Did her father have any type of any weird shit like,

2:13:11 Speaker 3: is her father able to you know, if her father

2:13:12 Speaker 3: had any type of abilities foresight?

2:13:15 Speaker 2: So listen, he clearly had something.

2:13:18 Speaker 4: All I knew of him until all of this, and

2:13:25 Speaker 4: really all that Talia knew of him. He was a

2:13:30 Speaker 4: brilliant guy. He was fucking drunk. He used to say

2:13:36 Speaker 4: all sorts of shit that people just thought he was crazy.

2:13:40 Speaker 4: He used to do so. For instance, somebody had sort

2:13:45 Speaker 4: of evaluated, you know, the work, his works, what I

2:13:49 Speaker 4: was doing, these connections that I was making, and da

2:13:53 Speaker 4: da da, somebody with a scientific background, and they said, yes,

2:13:59 Speaker 4: people can make the argument that, you know, something could

2:14:05 Speaker 4: just be the normal progression of this field of science

2:14:09 Speaker 4: by many people. But that becomes less and less because

2:14:13 Speaker 4: it's not just one thing. It's fourteen things. Yeah, it's

2:14:17 Speaker 4: four things here. It's fourteen things here that is beyond coincidence.

2:14:21 Speaker 4: Da da da da da. And the way. So this

2:14:24 Speaker 4: guy told me this and then I said it tonight

2:14:26 Speaker 4: we were driving we're coming from BJ's in fact, and

2:14:31 Speaker 4: she's like what, She's like, Oh, what do you say?

2:14:33 Speaker 4: I go he said to me that we either have

2:14:38 Speaker 4: to believe that this information made its way somehow, the

2:14:48 Speaker 4: knowledge was transferred into the United States government somehow, and

2:14:54 Speaker 4: that's how it appears. He said, it's either that or

2:14:58 Speaker 4: I go. Or he said, your father was a prophet.

2:15:03 Speaker 4: He's like, those are the only two options, and you

2:15:06 Speaker 4: don't have to say who.

2:15:08 Speaker 2: There is a lab that has requested the work several

2:15:11 Speaker 2: times to.

2:15:14 Speaker 4: As they say it, it informs areas that they are

2:15:18 Speaker 4: heavily invested in.

2:15:21 Speaker 2: I can't get enough.

2:15:22 Speaker 4: So when I said that to her, when I said yeah,

2:15:25 Speaker 4: he said, either this had to have happened, or your

2:15:27 Speaker 4: dad's just a prophet, right, and she stop and she goes.

2:15:32 Speaker 4: You know, he used to say he was a prophet.

2:15:36 Speaker 4: He used to say, someday people are going to realize

2:15:38 Speaker 4: I was a prophet. But again, drunk talk, you know,

2:15:43 Speaker 4: drunk talk.

2:15:44 Speaker 2: So it's like people that are crazy often people that

2:15:47 Speaker 2: are are not deemed crazy. Maybe that's the wrong perceived crazy.

2:15:54 Speaker 2: It's not until later you realize that they were ahead

2:15:57 Speaker 2: of the gifts, like look at him, the ESLA crazy, right,

2:16:03 Speaker 2: But they were just way ahead of their time and

2:16:06 Speaker 2: the comprehension of the normal average person. So the way

2:16:11 Speaker 2: we see that's right, and you.

2:16:15 Speaker 4: Know, and again and he's not around, she's being informed

2:16:18 Speaker 4: by you know, others and and things like that to

2:16:21 Speaker 4: you know, form opinions and stuff like that. So it was,

2:16:24 Speaker 4: you know, like never any doubt. He was a brilliant

2:16:27 Speaker 4: guy academically and professionally, but you know, essentially his idealism

2:16:34 Speaker 4: and you know, the fall of the Soviet Union broke him.

2:16:39 Speaker 4: You know, that was very much the first few you

2:16:41 Speaker 4: know year kind of picture. But it's like the more

2:16:48 Speaker 4: and more, I'm like, no, it's so much more than that,

2:16:50 Speaker 4: and it's so much more complex. But again, you know,

2:16:55 Speaker 4: I mean, just to bring it back around to you know,

2:16:57 Speaker 4: to talk about that fate destiny, you know, the universe

2:17:03 Speaker 4: aligning things? Is it the universe aligning things or is

2:17:07 Speaker 4: it people who have the skill set to manifest the

2:17:11 Speaker 4: connections that need to be connected.

2:17:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were all the same mindset, get off your

2:17:16 Speaker 3: ass and go do something that.

2:17:17 Speaker 4: So we did, right, and you know, and so that's

2:17:19 Speaker 4: why I kind of sit here now and I'm like,

2:17:21 Speaker 4: so if it comes into my head and I feel

2:17:24 Speaker 4: like I need to go, then I got to do it.

2:17:27 Speaker 4: And I've got to see it through, you know, much

2:17:32 Speaker 4: like as much as I hate him, that fucking shower guy,

2:17:37 Speaker 4: you know he channels there's the guy who channels bar

2:17:41 Speaker 4: the guy from the Galactic Empire.

2:17:46 Speaker 3: Excuse me the alien's name is.

2:17:49 Speaker 5: He's like, he's a Twitter guy.

2:17:52 Speaker 4: No, he's all over the place guy. Oh no, I

2:17:56 Speaker 4: don't know. But but one of one of the frequent

2:17:59 Speaker 4: video is that it shows some kids ask him, oh,

2:18:02 Speaker 4: but what's the you know, secret to life or some

2:18:05 Speaker 4: ship like that, and he and he says something to

2:18:09 Speaker 4: the effect of do when you do something like do

2:18:17 Speaker 4: something you love and when you do it, do it

2:18:20 Speaker 4: without expectation of an outcome, right, but you.

2:18:23 Speaker 2: Should seem actually channel the alien.

2:18:25 Speaker 4: He goes into like this like oh yeah, I'm sure

2:18:27 Speaker 4: he does. It's not like the other woman. Who have

2:18:31 Speaker 4: you seen the other woman who does? Like have you

2:18:34 Speaker 4: seen the woman? There's another woman who does it? And

2:18:37 Speaker 4: so she sais there right? Yeah? Her thing is like

2:18:43 Speaker 4: you know the so those is like, uh, you know,

2:18:46 Speaker 4: can you channel it now? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, channel it now?

2:18:48 Speaker 4: And she's like yeah, hell.

2:18:54 Speaker 8: Whyly Galactic Confederation represented that is here for you and wait,

2:19:04 Speaker 8: this is what she does for real?

2:19:05 Speaker 4: I am here to know I'm doing it right now,

2:19:07 Speaker 4: I'm channeling she just happens to do the same.

2:19:12 Speaker 3: The same exact thing, so which the Lactic Federation being.

2:19:15 Speaker 4: Is with us. I need to switch faster, right, Yes,

2:19:24 Speaker 4: I am here to bring you this message in the messages,

2:19:29 Speaker 4: you should not be assholes, and we are concerned about

2:19:34 Speaker 4: the environment, and we are concerned about your nuclear weapons.

2:19:40 Speaker 4: And you should be nicer to one another, and you

2:19:43 Speaker 4: should love yourself, and you should do all things that

2:19:50 Speaker 4: we're telling you you should do.

2:19:58 Speaker 2: He's channeling Joey.

2:20:00 Speaker 4: Oh, Joey. Joey was.

2:20:05 Speaker 5: Now clearly no, clearly no.

2:20:09 Speaker 4: They actually they actually do it with Zeno from because

2:20:17 Speaker 4: then there's the blonde chick, probably a single mother, who

2:20:24 Speaker 4: is a number who channel who like you got a

2:20:26 Speaker 4: number astral project.

2:20:30 Speaker 2: We've this area.

2:20:32 Speaker 4: Who Astra and that's the show the Moon, like she

2:20:37 Speaker 4: astro projects to the conference room. Does she on the

2:20:39 Speaker 4: moon with the Galactic Federation? Okay, you lost me.

2:20:44 Speaker 2: At the last part there, you lost me at the last.

2:20:46 Speaker 4: Part there, But you know that's why you're mocking her.

2:20:48 Speaker 3: It's like it's actually true, you know, but but this

2:20:52 Speaker 3: is but this is something I've said the time before.

2:20:54 Speaker 4: Then, if there is a galactic Federation, then better they

2:20:57 Speaker 4: stay away, right, because everything I'm learning about the galactic

2:21:01 Speaker 4: So this woman who you know is able to astro

2:21:05 Speaker 4: project meant an alien in the other realm, and he

2:21:09 Speaker 4: was like, hey, do you want to come to a

2:21:11 Speaker 4: conference at the conference center that's inside the moon? And

2:21:14 Speaker 4: she's like yeah, cool, and she went and there were

2:21:17 Speaker 4: and then zip, there were physical beings there. There were

2:21:20 Speaker 4: other astral projected beings there and stuff like that.

2:21:24 Speaker 3: Oh so the wait, did he physically take her to

2:21:26 Speaker 3: the moon or she actually projected?

2:21:27 Speaker 4: She astral projected the moon. So she's in the moon.

2:21:31 Speaker 4: So she's in the astral realm. One more time, she's

2:21:34 Speaker 4: in the astral realm, she meets a guy. He's like, yo,

2:21:37 Speaker 4: you want to go to a conference inside the moon.

2:21:40 Speaker 4: She's like yeah, yes, and he brings her there and

2:21:42 Speaker 4: it's the Galactic Federation, meaning and blah blah blah. So

2:21:45 Speaker 4: this is why I'm saying, if there is a Galactic Federation,

2:21:49 Speaker 4: better they stay away because their people are like trolling

2:21:54 Speaker 4: the astral realm for random chicks and bringing them into

2:21:59 Speaker 4: what's supposed to be the Galactic Federation yah supposed to

2:22:01 Speaker 4: be the equivalent of like Majestic twelve is having, you know,

2:22:06 Speaker 4: a secret meeting at the Bohemian Grove. And somebody went

2:22:10 Speaker 4: to seven eleven and saw a blonde chicken was like, hey,

2:22:14 Speaker 4: you want to come to my secret meeting out at

2:22:16 Speaker 4: Bowie Mean Grove. And she's like yeah, okay, nicely. You

2:22:19 Speaker 4: know she's on the menu.

2:22:21 Speaker 2: No, no, no, she's she's leading the charge.

2:22:25 Speaker 4: Right And and they're like they're like, oh my god,

2:22:28 Speaker 4: you're here. Well go back and tell everybody else about

2:22:30 Speaker 4: what we're doing here at Bohemian Grove.

2:22:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just like, okay, this is the part

2:22:35 Speaker 2: of the community that frustrates a lot of people.

2:22:39 Speaker 3: Of course naturally right with the Google birds, no offense, No,

2:22:44 Speaker 3: there's there, there's this room for everybody.

2:22:47 Speaker 2: Conferences that aren't in the room, the ones that.

2:22:50 Speaker 3: Are like at Denny's at fucking Connecticut, you know what

2:22:55 Speaker 3: I mean, like West Caven, Connecticut, like come down, We're

2:22:58 Speaker 3: we're Connecticut.

2:22:59 Speaker 4: Comeful, Yeah, exactly. You teleport in the closet.

2:23:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, the mop closet brings you to it. Actually, have

2:23:08 Speaker 2: you heard that that theory about Like they say it's

2:23:12 Speaker 2: like the holiday inn or something. At every holiday inn

2:23:16 Speaker 2: or insert hotel here, I don't know. I might be

2:23:19 Speaker 2: getting the hotel round. But at every marry It there's

2:23:25 Speaker 2: a closet that's a portal, Like that's a real story.

2:23:29 Speaker 3: That's well, I'm staying at a Marriott about im gonna

2:23:31 Speaker 3: find that? Well, my luck, I'm in the fucking room

2:23:36 Speaker 3: with the portal.

2:23:37 Speaker 4: But you know, for the people that were to be like,

2:23:41 Speaker 4: oh my god, they're just sitting there making fun of people. No,

2:23:43 Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm just I'm just sort of approving. It

2:23:46 Speaker 4: doesn't take anything beyond.

2:23:48 Speaker 2: What I just did to become a celebrity in this field.

2:23:53 Speaker 4: Well not even to become a celebrity, but to say

2:23:55 Speaker 4: that I did it right. So you you can sit

2:23:58 Speaker 4: there and say, oh I was No. I So, just

2:24:01 Speaker 4: to clarify, I was not mocking anybody. I was actually

2:24:03 Speaker 4: channeling Jim the alien, you know, tentacle that controls we so,

2:24:10 Speaker 4: and and just to clarify, there is as much there

2:24:13 Speaker 4: is now just as much evidence that I can channel

2:24:18 Speaker 4: Jim the alien that controls time as anybody else has

2:24:23 Speaker 4: ever produced.

2:24:25 Speaker 2: It's fair.

2:24:26 Speaker 4: So don't criticize me and say I'm making fun of anybody,

2:24:31 Speaker 4: because I'm telling you I was doing it. Show me

2:24:34 Speaker 4: the evidence that you weren't that I wasn't.

2:24:37 Speaker 2: And that's a real big problem with this community is

2:24:39 Speaker 2: that there's so much It's like we're on the edge

2:24:44 Speaker 2: of the we're on the precipice of like the cutting edge.

2:24:48 Speaker 7: Right, I didn't look at anything.

2:27:33 Speaker 4: Can they hear me?

2:27:34 Speaker 7: Now?

2:27:36 Speaker 4: Can you hear me?

2:27:37 Speaker 3: Now?

2:27:37 Speaker 4: Can you hear me? Now, Jean, say what you want?

2:27:41 Speaker 4: We can't hear you. Can you hear me now? Say

2:27:45 Speaker 4: what you want? It's back? I think good. Now it's back.

2:27:53 Speaker 4: Now I'm just not going to talk. And then that's

2:27:58 Speaker 4: how it went. And that's all I have to say

2:28:00 Speaker 4: about that.

2:28:03 Speaker 3: Man, that's the most profound speech I've ever heard you say.

2:28:05 Speaker 4: Gee, well, thank you. I'm glad you all got a

2:28:09 Speaker 4: lot out of that.

2:28:10 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, no, I just got criticize for talking.

2:28:22 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna talk.

2:28:24 Speaker 3: No, we're gonna make it an uncomfortable silence.

2:28:26 Speaker 5: Now just stare at you awkwardly.

2:28:28 Speaker 3: Are you done yet?

2:28:30 Speaker 2: See how many wires?

2:28:33 Speaker 4: It's like a spider web. Spider Man was through here.

2:28:36 Speaker 2: By the way, did you see testify? What do you

2:28:41 Speaker 2: guys think of that?

2:28:42 Speaker 5: I pleaded the fifth pretty cool.

2:28:53 Speaker 4: What is he gonna do? I think it's funny. I

2:28:57 Speaker 4: have more.

2:28:57 Speaker 2: I'd have more someone if they were like, I'm a monster.

2:29:02 Speaker 5: You need to tell the truth, then, right, like I

2:29:05 Speaker 5: murdered people in the eighties.

2:29:06 Speaker 2: To enrich himself. I have a presidential pardon that's backdated

2:29:11 Speaker 2: conveniently to twenty fourteen, when Gain of Function research started

2:29:15 Speaker 2: in Wuhan.

2:29:15 Speaker 4: Yeah.

2:29:16 Speaker 3: Me, when the emails were written to Epstein and I'm a.

2:29:19 Speaker 2: Monster and I eat kids. I mean, we'll see I

2:29:22 Speaker 2: have more respect.

2:29:23 Speaker 4: We'll see it. You know what's funny. I was in

2:29:25 Speaker 4: the in the military. There was a guy I worked

2:29:28 Speaker 4: with who was a dog tag wearing Satanist and that

2:29:33 Speaker 4: was his religion on his dog tag Satanist. And he

2:29:38 Speaker 4: used to tell stories like about, you know, being in

2:29:43 Speaker 4: Korea and freezing condoms and him and the girls stick

2:29:46 Speaker 4: the frozen condoms up as boho, his need to beet something,

2:29:52 Speaker 4: his ties.

2:29:55 Speaker 3: Yes, no right, nor your guy, your male for your

2:29:59 Speaker 3: ma friends, not.

2:30:01 Speaker 4: Jean, not me. That that he used to you know,

2:30:05 Speaker 4: and that he totally he did want to be slapped

2:30:08 Speaker 4: in his nuts with the same spoon that his kool

2:30:10 Speaker 4: aid was stirred with so what I'm saying.

2:30:18 Speaker 3: This?

2:30:19 Speaker 4: This was like like he had plumpers porn magazine mailed

2:30:23 Speaker 4: to the squadron.

2:30:25 Speaker 3: Plumpers.

2:30:25 Speaker 5: Yeah, like big girls or big boys, as.

2:30:28 Speaker 4: He would describe him. He wants to pull down. He

2:30:31 Speaker 4: wants to pull their panties down to the floor and

2:30:33 Speaker 4: their hands still be a.

2:30:36 Speaker 5: Wonderful. This is the after show, right, So this is

2:30:38 Speaker 5: this is this is this guy sounds like my kind

2:30:41 Speaker 5: of guy.

2:30:41 Speaker 4: So one day we're sitting at lunch, but I got

2:30:45 Speaker 4: I got him. It was shtick, you know, yeah, but

2:30:49 Speaker 4: everybody believed every word he said kind of thing. And

2:30:54 Speaker 4: my kids used to come to the squadron and and

2:30:56 Speaker 4: you know, he was like one of the He used

2:30:58 Speaker 4: to like put them on the forkliff and you know,

2:31:02 Speaker 4: scary Uncle Steve.

2:31:03 Speaker 2: They used We used to, Oh yeah, it's quite scary.

2:31:06 Speaker 4: So one day we're at lunch and I said something

2:31:09 Speaker 4: like there was some event going on, and somebody's like, oh,

2:31:12 Speaker 4: you're going, and no, I can't find a babysitter. And

2:31:15 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I got one day, like and

2:31:17 Speaker 4: I'm like, Steve's gonna babysit. Uncle Steve from up Steve's

2:31:21 Speaker 4: gonna babysit and everybody, like the lieutenant like looked at me.

2:31:25 Speaker 4: He's like, tell me, you're joking, And I said to him, listen.

2:31:30 Speaker 4: At least I know where Steve stands. If I come

2:31:33 Speaker 4: home and the kids haven't had something horrible to them,

2:31:37 Speaker 4: it's a win. But at least I know what I'm saying.

2:31:40 Speaker 4: At least I know what to expect going in there.

2:31:43 Speaker 2: Steve's on the surface.

2:31:44 Speaker 4: At least Steve is transparent about who Steve is, Steve Steve.

2:31:49 Speaker 3: Steve's not secretly doing horrific things to my children. Like

2:31:52 Speaker 3: I know, Steve joke's around, but he's not a.

2:31:54 Speaker 4: Creep, right exactly, I get it right, It's it's that

2:31:59 Speaker 4: idea not in the closet.

2:32:01 Speaker 10: But do you think that's something that I'm making a

2:32:04 Speaker 10: decision based on knowing exactly all the you know what

2:32:07 Speaker 10: you're getting as opposed to most people that are much

2:32:10 Speaker 10: different on the surface than they are.

2:32:11 Speaker 4: Underneath, you know, right?

2:32:13 Speaker 2: Do you think that there is any chance that Fauci

2:32:16 Speaker 2: spends time in prison.

2:32:17 Speaker 3: No, I don't think no, because he's gonna squeal like

2:32:21 Speaker 3: a fucking pig.

2:32:22 Speaker 4: And if he goes down he's taking.

2:32:23 Speaker 7: Rity with him.

2:32:24 Speaker 3: Now, what I would like to see I would like

2:32:26 Speaker 3: to see all the text messages they's got their hands on.

2:32:28 Speaker 3: I would really love to see what was being said

2:32:31 Speaker 3: in those messages.

2:32:33 Speaker 2: Why I think this is important to talk about is

2:32:37 Speaker 2: because the history books aren't going to write this.

2:32:41 Speaker 3: No, the history is going to be it's gonna tell bullshit.

2:32:43 Speaker 2: It's going to say that he was a hero. Talked

2:32:46 Speaker 2: about earlier about how people need a leader, they need

2:32:49 Speaker 2: someone to follow. People were scared, they didn't know where

2:32:54 Speaker 2: or when they were going to be able to go out.

2:32:57 Speaker 4: The government was. But think about it this way, right,

2:33:01 Speaker 4: who who was? Who was the doctor that led the

2:33:03 Speaker 4: Spanish flu result response, I don't know is a name?

2:33:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember exactly.

2:33:12 Speaker 4: This is this is what history will remember about Foulci.

2:33:16 Speaker 2: You don't think he's doing it.

2:33:18 Speaker 3: It depends on who's telling the story and how they

2:33:19 Speaker 3: tell the story, you know what I mean, Like they're

2:33:21 Speaker 3: still lying about everything.

2:33:23 Speaker 5: That What kills me is this happened.

2:33:24 Speaker 3: Six years ago, and all the the the the shot

2:33:29 Speaker 3: stuff happened less than six years ago, and people pretend

2:33:31 Speaker 3: like it was thirty and like I'm like, bro, it's

2:33:33 Speaker 3: all documented.

2:33:34 Speaker 5: What you fox did.

2:33:36 Speaker 4: You all lied, every single one of you lied, and

2:33:38 Speaker 4: you and and it was the biggest case.

2:33:40 Speaker 3: Of Operation Mockingbird in our faces, so blatant that I've

2:33:44 Speaker 3: ever seen in my life. And it's crazy that no

2:33:46 Speaker 3: one sees what was going on. You look at every channel,

2:33:49 Speaker 3: Like my wife and I were watching like old DVR stuff.

2:33:52 Speaker 2: Like news clips, and they all say the same exact thing.

2:33:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, but not news clips.

2:33:55 Speaker 3: We were just watching TV shows and in between what

2:33:58 Speaker 3: the comer, like, we had DVR shit from like wildly

2:34:00 Speaker 3: we just never watched. We call back up on it,

2:34:02 Speaker 3: and like watching those goddamn commercials are so depressing.

2:34:06 Speaker 4: Everybody was gonna die. Everything was death, death, death, death, death, death.

2:34:11 Speaker 5: It didn't matter what it was, the numbers, the death,

2:34:13 Speaker 5: the death, the death, the death.

2:34:14 Speaker 3: Why twenty twenty election, that's what I think of to

2:34:18 Speaker 3: get Trump out of office and set that new world

2:34:20 Speaker 3: order ablaze. You had Brazil with a weird election, Spain

2:34:24 Speaker 3: and Portugal with weird elections, the United States with a

2:34:26 Speaker 3: really weird election, and and the list just keeps going

2:34:29 Speaker 3: on and run Canada as well. It's crazy and people

2:34:32 Speaker 3: just can't see it because they're they're told what to

2:34:35 Speaker 3: believe with Operation Marketpert.

2:34:38 Speaker 2: Do you guys think that COVID really shit? Do you

2:34:42 Speaker 2: guys think that it was a vice grippin her? Do

2:34:47 Speaker 2: you think that the government or that certain people knew

2:34:50 Speaker 2: that it wasn't as dangerous as they were making it

2:34:52 Speaker 2: out to be, and that they're using this to take

2:34:55 Speaker 2: because just like with the Patriot Act, Because this is

2:34:57 Speaker 2: what people are saying, I'm just I'm I don't have

2:34:59 Speaker 2: a stance on this either way, but what people are

2:35:02 Speaker 2: saying is that they used it and spike.

2:35:10 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, the scare, Yeah, I'll explain it.

2:35:16 Speaker 4: Right.

2:35:16 Speaker 3: Never exactly, thank you. Obama's favorite thing never never, never

2:35:19 Speaker 3: let a crisis go to waste. So you had, you

2:35:21 Speaker 3: had them using Do not believe this.

2:35:23 Speaker 5: You just to say this is this is my theory.

2:35:26 Speaker 5: You had them, and it's not my theory, it's the truth.

2:35:29 Speaker 3: You had people dying of car accidents, getting decapitated, and

2:35:32 Speaker 3: if their head was swathed, then they happened to have COVID.

2:35:34 Speaker 5: They got markers of COVID death. That's the absolute goddamn truth.

2:35:38 Speaker 3: Early on in the in the thing, I'm a first responder,

2:35:40 Speaker 3: I I didn't miss a day of work during it,

2:35:42 Speaker 3: except for when I actually got COVID a year into it.

2:35:46 Speaker 5: I went to work every day and we were.

2:35:47 Speaker 3: On the front line seeing the ship every single day.

2:35:50 Speaker 3: And in the early days, the ivermectin, the hydrochloroquine, the

2:35:53 Speaker 3: zinc and the and the zip rmyasin was the cocktail

2:35:56 Speaker 3: to give the doctors even said it. And then as

2:35:58 Speaker 3: soon as Trump went on TV and said it, all

2:36:00 Speaker 3: of a sudden, it was banned.

2:36:02 Speaker 4: Why why finishing like with the gun control right, So

2:36:07 Speaker 4: the number so they talk about this increase in child

2:36:12 Speaker 4: deaths due to firearms. Right, there's an increase in child

2:36:19 Speaker 4: deaths due to firearms because they raised the definition of

2:36:23 Speaker 4: a child from sixteen to.

2:36:26 Speaker 5: Twenty two and the statistics and they're not right.

2:36:30 Speaker 4: They don't tell you that part. So you know, it's

2:36:33 Speaker 4: this is again, it's all the the you know, National

2:36:37 Speaker 4: Endowment for the Arms has always always been about one

2:36:44 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty five million dollars, right, and that gets

2:36:49 Speaker 4: distributed to the states. What they started doing was when

2:36:54 Speaker 4: it looked like when when the Democrats have control of

2:37:00 Speaker 4: a budget and it looks like they're going to lose

2:37:03 Speaker 4: the White House or there is a you know, Republican

2:37:07 Speaker 4: in the White House. The Democratic Congress, you know, House

2:37:13 Speaker 4: and Senate would double the amount of the National Endowment

2:37:18 Speaker 4: for the Arts to over three hundred million dollars.

2:37:23 Speaker 3: So why they could play with the money and no,

2:37:26 Speaker 3: so that then when it.

2:37:27 Speaker 4: Got to the president, the president would cut it back

2:37:32 Speaker 4: to one hundred and sixty five million dollars. So they

2:37:36 Speaker 4: would they would take the victory lamp of saying we

2:37:40 Speaker 4: raised you know, we've doubled the amount of the National

2:37:44 Speaker 4: Endowment for the Arts, aren't we good? And if they

2:37:47 Speaker 4: didn't get elected on it, then they would cut it.

2:37:50 Speaker 4: And the president cuts it, then they escapegoat yeah, he's

2:37:56 Speaker 4: going after the arts. They don't care. They back to

2:38:00 Speaker 4: where it's all yeah.

2:38:03 Speaker 3: But again you don't have the media telling you the

2:38:05 Speaker 3: absolute truth. And that's once again where Operation Mockingbird comes in.

2:38:09 Speaker 3: And it's ridiculous. But people are stupid and they believe

2:38:13 Speaker 3: what they see in or told because the talking box

2:38:15 Speaker 3: said so.

2:38:18 Speaker 2: Um, we'll probably wrap up this. I'm uh oh, grabbing

2:38:23 Speaker 2: a problem with one of the cameras. Dude, what the

2:38:25 Speaker 2: fuck are you? What is wrong with you?

2:38:27 Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm just sitting here.

2:38:28 Speaker 2: We haven't had of these problems for a while.

2:38:31 Speaker 3: I don't sense anything in his room, and the fact

2:38:33 Speaker 3: that the dog's laying here in a nap, I don't

2:38:34 Speaker 3: think anything's about but I maybe I don't know.

2:38:37 Speaker 4: I can't feel anything.

2:38:38 Speaker 2: I mean, I just changed a battery in it and

2:38:39 Speaker 2: it's dead already.

2:38:42 Speaker 5: I'm not on air, son of a bitch.

2:38:45 Speaker 4: I'm not. That's gonna pack the numbers up.

2:38:47 Speaker 5: That's av LOB is the what have you? AVI Lob

2:38:53 Speaker 5: is the fauci of UAPs whistling Mike.

2:38:56 Speaker 2: Good Mike Good one, um, just put it back on me.

2:39:00 Speaker 2: Uh So we have the interview with Lenville this weekend

2:39:04 Speaker 2: coming up. Super excited. If anyone does have if anyone's

2:39:09 Speaker 2: a member and they want to get a last minute

2:39:12 Speaker 2: question submitted, can you want to change your own battery?

2:39:15 Speaker 2: There's another battery right there.

2:39:21 Speaker 4: I have Lorraine, my wife's, and then chat. That's up,

2:39:23 Speaker 4: baby girl.

2:39:25 Speaker 3: V you have something following you? Yeah, I know, but

2:39:28 Speaker 3: it's definitely in this studio, but I don't think it's

2:39:30 Speaker 3: in this room at this moment. It's definitely out there.

2:39:32 Speaker 3: When I walked in, I phone.

2:39:35 Speaker 7: Mhm.

2:39:37 Speaker 2: I could have grabbed one. I could have grabbed a

2:39:39 Speaker 2: battery that was dead though by accident, because there was

2:39:44 Speaker 2: a couple that was.

2:39:47 Speaker 3: There was one that I that No, no, no, I

2:39:49 Speaker 3: mean right now, isn't it plugged into power right now?

2:39:51 Speaker 2: No, that's plugged into the camera switcher.

2:39:56 Speaker 4: Talking about yourself, I'll give you a topping.

2:40:02 Speaker 2: But we have the interview with Lenvil Logan this weekend.

2:40:04 Speaker 2: You came by for that. We're gonna have a lot

2:40:07 Speaker 2: of fun. I can't wait out out face the label out.

2:40:15 Speaker 2: We're gonna have a lot of fun doing that. We

2:40:17 Speaker 2: we I set up this room, Jesus Christ. I can't.

2:40:22 Speaker 2: I can't watch the struggle.

2:40:29 Speaker 4: By all means, don't use to hand came definitely struggle.

2:40:32 Speaker 2: With the one you're holding a.

2:40:35 Speaker 4: Okay, and the end he's bending over. There's no way

2:40:41 Speaker 4: he could have done that.

2:40:43 Speaker 5: Six weeks ago.

2:40:44 Speaker 2: I was more concerned about them cigarettsive camera.

2:40:47 Speaker 4: He's hanging over with liquid with liquid.

2:40:51 Speaker 2: And lit cigarette. Yeah, no, biggie.

2:40:56 Speaker 3: Crosh cam.

2:40:57 Speaker 2: So uh we I literally put duct tape on this,

2:41:02 Speaker 2: uh and we we do this together kind of cam

2:41:05 Speaker 2: abound a technicalized last minute. I'm definitely gonna have to

2:41:09 Speaker 2: figure out a way to to to wire this room

2:41:11 Speaker 2: a little bit better. Yeah, veto proof it, but uh,

2:41:16 Speaker 2: sorry for any of the issues that might have arised

2:41:20 Speaker 2: during audio, is pretty pretty good fixed up for that

2:41:24 Speaker 2: one moment. So yeah, no, it was important me to

2:41:28 Speaker 2: have everyone on camera to night. Chan's usually behind it.

2:41:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

2:41:33 Speaker 2: It was different. I actually like sitting in here.

2:41:35 Speaker 3: We just got to figure out a way to kind

2:41:37 Speaker 3: of taller chairs please.

2:41:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just gotta kind of figures.

2:41:42 Speaker 3: Well, actually, you can get the couches that like the

2:41:44 Speaker 3: same ones that you got out there. You get four

2:41:45 Speaker 3: of them in here that Yeah.

2:41:46 Speaker 2: That feel a little bit. I thought the couches would

2:41:49 Speaker 2: feel nice, like it'd be a little.

2:41:50 Speaker 4: Bit more like very low.

2:41:53 Speaker 2: So but we'll be on with Lenville this weekend. It

2:41:59 Speaker 2: will not be live, but this is the first time

2:42:02 Speaker 2: we've ever done a live show with the camera switchers too.

2:42:04 Speaker 7: Would you.

2:42:06 Speaker 1: Like that?

2:42:07 Speaker 4: Would you do a live interview?

2:42:09 Speaker 2: Not for the podcast? No, not not even no, not

2:42:16 Speaker 2: not even not a chance I would.

2:42:20 Speaker 4: Live and anything that's fucking dope.

2:42:21 Speaker 2: Not a chance. But yeah, I like to be able

2:42:25 Speaker 2: to present a good product.

2:42:28 Speaker 5: And no, no, no, I get what you're saying.

2:42:29 Speaker 4: Sure, you do.

2:42:30 Speaker 2: I like to be able to get that out of there.

2:42:32 Speaker 5: What I'm saying, be cool and different to have them live.

2:42:34 Speaker 2: But the last four episodes, I will say, though it

2:42:36 Speaker 2: kind of got off without a hitch. Seems like we

2:42:38 Speaker 2: are hitting our groove as a unit. So it kind

2:42:42 Speaker 2: of sucks that this like the unit's going to be

2:42:45 Speaker 2: kind of split up tomorrow or Sun Saturday. So but

2:42:50 Speaker 2: I'm not worried. I'm not worried. I want I'm not worried.

2:42:53 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good time. You can't wait to

2:42:54 Speaker 2: have Lenville here, and uh, you know, you get to

2:42:57 Speaker 2: kind of diagnose, you know, I've heard his story. I

2:43:01 Speaker 2: watched the interview that you did with him. I watched

2:43:02 Speaker 2: him on Rogan Watch.

2:43:05 Speaker 4: Yes, he watches your stuff.

2:43:07 Speaker 2: I watched it. I watched every interview that I could

2:43:09 Speaker 2: find with Lenville, the one he did with Rogan, a

2:43:14 Speaker 2: lot of the interviews he was doing for the program,

2:43:17 Speaker 2: so you can see him just kind of like focusing

2:43:18 Speaker 2: on that stuff.

2:43:19 Speaker 4: Huh.

2:43:19 Speaker 2: But I have a lot of technical questions and questions

2:43:23 Speaker 2: that I think not a single person has asked him

2:43:25 Speaker 2: on air yet.

2:43:26 Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, I have a lot of technical.

2:43:30 Speaker 2: Questions and I do not think have been asked yet.

2:43:32 Speaker 2: So I think this is going to be a really

2:43:33 Speaker 2: fun episode, so everyone will be able to tune in.

2:43:36 Speaker 2: It'll be out this Monday.

2:43:38 Speaker 4: Thank you to keep my mind available for that one. Yeah,

2:43:41 Speaker 4: we'll break the fourth wall.

2:43:43 Speaker 2: So with that, veto where can people find you?

2:43:48 Speaker 3: Vido UFO seventy six for the UFO stuff and go

2:43:52 Speaker 3: stuff and paranormal stuff and if you like retro gaming,

2:43:55 Speaker 3: it's the perfect storm and gaming at YouTube. But if

2:43:57 Speaker 3: you just go to my ex or if you go

2:43:59 Speaker 3: to my took me, click my LinkedIn, all of not

2:44:01 Speaker 3: LinkedIn my link tree, every single site that we're on

2:44:05 Speaker 3: is on there.

2:44:06 Speaker 5: And I'm I'm everywhere like God and Jesus.

2:44:07 Speaker 7: That's the truth.

2:44:08 Speaker 4: I'm on every app like God and baby Jesus Jesus.

2:44:14 Speaker 5: I am everywhere like God and Jesus.

2:44:16 Speaker 3: I'm all over, I'm I'm all all knowing, all.

2:44:19 Speaker 4: Right, all right, you know, bless you my.

2:44:22 Speaker 2: Last week that Jane you got the new Black Black

2:44:27 Speaker 2: grow I'm sorry I can't remember the name.

2:44:29 Speaker 5: Yes, yo, he's been doing some good ship Black Black.

2:44:32 Speaker 4: Grove, Black Grove, glible risk dot com. Actually everything's migrated there,

2:44:39 Speaker 4: including all of the Engineering Infinity. So even if I

2:44:44 Speaker 4: had the old Engineering Infinity book dot com link that

2:44:47 Speaker 4: will bring you to the works in the archive that

2:44:53 Speaker 4: is all now under Black Grove. Yeah, and so we

2:44:57 Speaker 4: are doing as I say, uh, the unsexy part of

2:45:01 Speaker 4: the UAP discussion, which is following the money and the

2:45:05 Speaker 4: people and the legislation and breaking down what the true

2:45:11 Speaker 4: motivations are of everything that's happening.

2:45:14 Speaker 2: So if you subscribe and join as a funding member,

2:45:16 Speaker 2: I think right now you get a little care.

2:45:20 Speaker 4: Package, is that right? Yeah? Yeah, So I mean I

2:45:22 Speaker 4: caution everybody this is this is designed for financial analysts

2:45:30 Speaker 4: or c suite board member level individuals who have a

2:45:39 Speaker 4: focus on their their business sectors and financial markets and

2:45:46 Speaker 4: and things like that, because this is what I say

2:45:48 Speaker 4: that you don't you don't need to believe in UAP.

2:45:52 Speaker 4: You don't need to believe in aliens, you don't need

2:45:54 Speaker 4: to believe in the Galactic Federation or anything. The fact

2:45:57 Speaker 4: is the government is structuring, building architecture within the systems

2:46:04 Speaker 4: and implementing changes because of this that are already beginning

2:46:13 Speaker 4: to show ripple effects that that people should be prepared for,

2:46:21 Speaker 4: whether they're doing business with the government or not. So

2:46:25 Speaker 4: it's very much a risk management type things. So if

2:46:31 Speaker 4: you expect them to go there and get the woo

2:46:33 Speaker 4: and yes, and so it's a subscription is priced accordingly

2:46:38 Speaker 4: as other business risk management entities. But yeah, we do

2:46:45 Speaker 4: offer a lot of very cool sweat.

2:46:47 Speaker 3: No, you're following the money, which is pretty cool, un sexy,

2:46:52 Speaker 3: but the results as want that.

2:46:58 Speaker 2: What's the work's done at sex? See, it's not sexy doing.

2:47:01 Speaker 4: It, I mean, and it's it'll be, it'll be you

2:47:05 Speaker 4: know what it'll be is again it's so it's like

2:47:09 Speaker 4: any market, right, the early adopters are the ones who

2:47:15 Speaker 4: make out. And so if you are if you are positioned,

2:47:23 Speaker 4: you know, if you are an existing company that's positioned

2:47:27 Speaker 4: yourself in anticipation of the changes, then your company is

2:47:32 Speaker 4: going to do better. If you are looking to enter

2:47:37 Speaker 4: the world, enter this market, this new market that's developing,

2:47:42 Speaker 4: now's the time to start understanding what's going on film,

2:47:48 Speaker 4: you know, and it's not unreasonable to do it because

2:47:53 Speaker 4: it is the reason all of these people are doing

2:47:57 Speaker 4: everything that's going on.

2:48:00 Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. My man can't wait to have you

2:48:03 Speaker 2: guys back, can't wait to do this again. We have

2:48:06 Speaker 2: a lot of We have a big fun weekend ahead

2:48:08 Speaker 2: of us still. So with that being said, everyone Logan,

2:48:12 Speaker 2: do you have anything to plug?

2:48:16 Speaker 4: If anyone wants to send a belly rub?

2:48:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys want to send you guys want to

2:48:20 Speaker 2: say if by the way, if that's how I can

2:48:22 Speaker 2: get some super chats, maybe if you guys want to send.

2:48:26 Speaker 5: Gotta put on my camera.

2:48:28 Speaker 4: Come here, come here, come here, come here.

2:48:33 Speaker 2: So if anyone wants to send Logan a treat, you

2:48:37 Speaker 2: can send us a super chat or become a member

2:48:41 Speaker 2: and help us pay for his uh, pay for his

2:48:44 Speaker 2: bully sticks that he longs.

2:48:46 Speaker 4: Listen, And I learned tonight that if Logan were a human,

2:48:49 Speaker 4: he would need glasses. And I don't think any dog

2:48:52 Speaker 4: should be without glasses.

2:48:55 Speaker 2: He's like one of those kids in that forgot.

2:48:59 Speaker 4: I can't see, don't mock me, I can't see what playing.

2:49:04 Speaker 2: In the background. Don't sing it because we'll get taken down.

2:49:08 Speaker 4: Angel. Yeah that one's playing oh oh with the dog. Yeah,

2:49:14 Speaker 4: just nine cents a d.

2:49:17 Speaker 2: Can save Logan, save him from not not eating ever

2:49:22 Speaker 2: because he eats great. But stay humble, stay kind, stay vigilant.

2:49:28 Speaker 2: We'll see you on Monday.

2:49:31 Speaker 4: And I get kisses later.

2:49:37 Speaker 5: No, are we still live?

2:49:40 Speaker 4: Yeah?

2:49:41 Speaker 2: Does not ended to you, m

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