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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, I just wanted to let you know that
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Speaker 1: stand here in the middle of one of the most
Speaker 1: historic gatherings dedicated to the mysteries that refused to be
Speaker 1: silenced for decades. This festival has carried a torch reminder
Speaker 1: that truth, no matter how deeply buried, always finds its
Speaker 1: way back into the light. My name is Tyler Roberts
Speaker 1: and I host Total Disclosure UFOs cover Ups and Conspiracies.
Speaker 1: Our mission is simple to pull back the veil, to
Speaker 1: follow the evidence wherever it leads, to create a platform
Speaker 1: where voices that demand truth can finally be heard. Whether
Speaker 1: it's witnesses, whistleblowers, or researchers who've dedicated their lives to
Speaker 1: this cause, we bring their stories forward, unfiltered, uncompromised. Today
Speaker 1: we're not just recording another episode. We're making history together
Speaker 1: right here at the Exeter UFO Festival. You are not
Speaker 1: just the audience. You're part of the conversation, part of
Speaker 1: the pursuit, part of the legacy of disclosure. Now to
Speaker 1: start us off, I couldn't imagine a more fitting first guest.
Speaker 1: He's been on the front lines of the political battle
Speaker 1: for truth, a man who's walked the halls of Washington
Speaker 1: pushing tirelessly for congressional hearings and government accountability on the
Speaker 1: UFO UAP issue. He's a researcher, an activist, and one
Speaker 1: of the most persistent voices calling for open disclosure.
Speaker 2: Please join me.
Speaker 1: In welcoming the first guest of my panel, mister Steve Bassa.
Speaker 3: You know you've been working when I was at both hearings.
Speaker 3: You were at both hearings.
Speaker 4: You've been working so diligently on the back end, and
Speaker 4: I don't think people get to really understand and really
Speaker 4: realize what you've done behind the scenes. Because if it
Speaker 4: wasn't for Steve, Grush wouldn't be there. If it wasn't
Speaker 4: for Steve and guys like him, no one would be
Speaker 4: testifying in front of Congress. Because this subject has been ridiculed, stigmatized,
Speaker 4: and just made to look stupid for so long.
Speaker 3: But my generation is coming up.
Speaker 5: In a world that you know, we see the cosmos
Speaker 5: as teaming with life, and that is the obvious answer.
Speaker 5: So the tides are changing, the burden of proof has
Speaker 5: shifted coming from.
Speaker 3: The believer to the non believer. And you've spent decades
Speaker 3: pushing for government transparency on your FOT.
Speaker 5: So where do we stand today in that fight for
Speaker 5: disclosure compared to maybe when you first began, Well, first.
Speaker 6: One they a qualifier.
Speaker 3: If it wasn't for a lot of people. Believe me,
Speaker 3: I'm just one of a very.
Speaker 7: Large room of people that have been working in countless
Speaker 7: ways for eighty years to get us to this point.
Speaker 6: Some that's pretty this one.
Speaker 3: We had to have the researchers, We.
Speaker 7: Had to have witnesses willing to become afforward.
Speaker 3: We had to do our own journalism right, our own ours.
Speaker 3: We had to create the conferences. All of this total
Speaker 3: package is was he helped get us to the point
Speaker 3: where in let's.
Speaker 8: See, when we wasn't In uh to two twenty twenty three,
Speaker 8: we had the first real hearings since nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 8: In the last seven years, more coverage of this issue
Speaker 8: has taken place, way more coverage of this issue.
Speaker 3: In US media and any previous time. It's overwhelming because I.
Speaker 6: Archive at all.
Speaker 3: I mean I archive all the professional.
Speaker 7: Media on my website, the pre media Archive, and if
Speaker 7: you were to read all seven thousand of the last
Speaker 7: articles that are listed there.
Speaker 3: You will find one in two hundred.
Speaker 7: Is a skeptical take, right, because I include those if
Speaker 7: it's a professional journalism, So what right?
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the term UFO.
Speaker 7: Which we've spent years to replace with UAP because you
Speaker 7: can't talk to journalists and members of Congress and start
Speaker 7: mentioning UFO in one with that, accept the course that
Speaker 7: it's been.
Speaker 3: Deliberately stigmatized by the viv.
Speaker 7: The managers of the Chuch of Barco I called it
Speaker 7: the intellectual ghetto nation.
Speaker 3: If you follow me where they build walls around it.
Speaker 3: But they're not brick, thank god.
Speaker 6: But they're they're ridicule.
Speaker 7: Walls are rigular, right, and so you're in there, and
Speaker 7: once you're behind those walls are ridical, everybody thinks shot
Speaker 7: at you.
Speaker 3: So UFO had to be changed and other language.
Speaker 6: Had to be changed, which we did.
Speaker 7: Okay, what's happened struck me is that in the last well.
Speaker 3: Maybe starting about two thousand.
Speaker 7: And uh, I'm kidding, it started to shift and now
Speaker 7: UNFO is back. It's back. And so remember Congress will say,
Speaker 7: ufo the journalist writing an article ufo, and I'm going, wow, okay.
Speaker 7: And so if I'm if I'm working, I'm a manager,
Speaker 7: which was a Barbers sitting over the DA or Lockheed
Speaker 7: Barner to help and I'm.
Speaker 3: Watching this and I'm going, U back, what are we
Speaker 3: going to do?
Speaker 9: Where to put it another way, I think that everybody
Speaker 9: can nets to.
Speaker 7: This issue, within our government and within the private sector.
Speaker 3: Who I do not They're not evil and I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not trying to crochete on them. They
Speaker 3: were doing what they were doing. It was all national
Speaker 3: security based.
Speaker 2: Every one of those people are looking out and seeing
Speaker 2: this is almost over and it's going to come out
Speaker 2: and we're going to have answer a lot of questions
Speaker 2: about what.
Speaker 3: We did and how it went and so forth.
Speaker 7: And that's from government all the way in the private sector,
Speaker 7: and they were they would.
Speaker 3: Rather not have to do that, but hey, life is
Speaker 3: that way. Sometimes you're going to have to deal with
Speaker 3: things like that.
Speaker 7: And they're kind of getting themselves prepared, but in the
Speaker 7: meantime they're buying.
Speaker 3: A little time. But I've always said this, but never
Speaker 3: more than now. Disclosure capital g a confirmation from the
Speaker 3: HEAs estates of nasion that yet.
Speaker 7: A long here, so forth and social then you've got
Speaker 7: to learn war is inevitable.
Speaker 3: It has always been inevitable. Do you think that it
Speaker 3: is inevitable, Steve?
Speaker 5: I mean, even the word alien, if you will, has
Speaker 5: been changed in public, you know, the public sector and
Speaker 5: the public legislation to non human intelligence. So they're they're
Speaker 5: creating new words and new phrases for old ideas to
Speaker 5: kind of shoehorn these things into legislation. And we have
Speaker 5: worked with Eric Burleson, the congressman who has now reintroduced
Speaker 5: as a single as a single pack interview, the disclosure
Speaker 5: at Eric Berlson just reintroduced it.
Speaker 7: Well, Eric Berlson, who is my new favorite congressman.
Speaker 3: By the way, I briefed Nancy Mace with him with
Speaker 3: Robert Sallas. He said that about her then. So Steve's
Speaker 3: very very vocal about his changing opinion.
Speaker 7: But Nancy had a stepfa and Luna took stepped in.
Speaker 3: I can't think about that one of.
Speaker 9: The commerce people that was out there saying again she
Speaker 9: was saying matter of fact things, we're gonna get this
Speaker 9: years ago a commresce person that's that that I don't
Speaker 9: have a heart of that, right, So she had and.
Speaker 7: Then she gave it to Luna Luna and then came
Speaker 7: to the head of the task Force on Secrets all right,
Speaker 7: which was what they did was is they created an
Speaker 7: actual task force that included unpes. And so now the
Speaker 7: hearings are before the task force. This is out there
Speaker 7: to progress in Congress, right.
Speaker 3: And he gets its own task force. They're holding the
Speaker 3: hearing and once you give it that leve of anybody
Speaker 3: that knows the government knows is is not gonna go
Speaker 3: in terms of the secrets.
Speaker 6: Right, it's gonna go.
Speaker 7: And so but she got overwhelmed because there's so many secrets, right,
Speaker 7: so many files, man, he did, and you know some
Speaker 7: of those files are cann being very interesting. And so
Speaker 7: she she offloaded the UAP portfolio to Burlison who took
Speaker 7: it up with Gusta.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I need another little clarification. Language is very important.
Speaker 3: Here's a quick there's a quick tutorial. Aliena we don't
Speaker 3: want to use it. Obviously the film industry has been
Speaker 3: in terms of the legislation and politics.
Speaker 6: And so forth.
Speaker 3: I don't want to use it. That is something else.
Speaker 7: Okay, it has a lot of negative consequences, and it's
Speaker 7: certainly if you've seen Yeah, it's definitely.
Speaker 10: A little negative.
Speaker 3: But whatever, No extraterrestrial prefer Now.
Speaker 7: Extraterrestrial still have a little bit icy for some because
Speaker 7: they're not sure if they're from another planet, and it's
Speaker 7: very hard to pronounce a.
Speaker 3: Lot of syllables, and so it can be a problem
Speaker 3: with extra trustrials.
Speaker 7: All right, But where we kind of settled, and again
Speaker 7: this is how language is important to getting politics and
Speaker 7: policy done because you have to get people involved. And
Speaker 7: I think the plant least are comfortable with. And if
Speaker 7: they're not comfortable, what's that there's people some it is comfortable.
Speaker 7: So where we are now technologically advanced non humans?
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I think, well, there's this idea that most
Speaker 11: people most in here.
Speaker 5: Would probably agree to that you think disclosure will happen
Speaker 5: when the President opens the doors of the White House,
Speaker 5: comes out onto a pet school and says, my fellow Americans,
Speaker 5: we are not alone.
Speaker 3: I don't think disclosure looks.
Speaker 5: Like that right now, because I don't think he has
Speaker 5: to come he or she has to come out and
Speaker 5: say we're not alone.
Speaker 3: That's the given. Then, So what does disclosure actually look like?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 6: Did you go to my lecture yesterday?
Speaker 3: You were there for that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I mean literally remind you it's very simple.
Speaker 3: I can't language. One of the reasons that's what I do.
Speaker 3: I speak to people and try to provide context.
Speaker 6: That helps.
Speaker 7: That's why I be more interviews on the subject than
Speaker 7: anybody literally anybody, including standard.
Speaker 6: Freeing your work you won't do, that's all.
Speaker 3: And the podcast re Evolution, thank God for that.
Speaker 7: And so I'm up in the fifteen hundred and sixteen
Speaker 7: hundred interview range. Okay, So one of the things that
Speaker 7: I pound a way on is this language. So disclosure,
Speaker 7: as I use it not most of the time, is
Speaker 7: a proper now it is capital the disclosure I define it,
Speaker 7: which means I can always I'm always right. Anybody has
Speaker 7: had a definition, fine, I created a definition. Okay, So
Speaker 7: like sorry, in case closed disclosure is when a head
Speaker 7: of spid it will start with on confirms we're not alone.
Speaker 7: Formally as the head of SPIK. Now again, people say, well,
Speaker 7: what does it matter?
Speaker 3: It matters, But we've had a couple of astronauts said,
Speaker 3: we're not alone. Edgar Mitchell said it many times he
Speaker 3: walked on the moon. Are we in a fully post
Speaker 3: disclosure era where we're learning about this and learning or know?
Speaker 7: Because the head of c is the commander of the army, right,
Speaker 7: we know that it's mandroom chief. He has total classification capability.
Speaker 7: There's nothing that the head of state technically just can't
Speaker 7: do it. Go get it, open this door, open that door.
Speaker 7: Now something to me, say now, how you can't come in?
Speaker 7: And then they involve that person off to a prison
Speaker 7: and so. And also it's the it's the It gives
Speaker 7: it the gravitas and the importance that it.
Speaker 6: Needs to have.
Speaker 3: It opens the doors the way. I've finally found the
Speaker 3: metaphor for this. I'm do the metaphors. I love it
Speaker 3: is that disclosure capital deed.
Speaker 7: The moment, hopefully our president and not another head of
Speaker 7: state Italian if another head of state bus is it's
Speaker 7: not good.
Speaker 3: Steps into the White House. It's not gonna do it
Speaker 3: from a Venny's okay, it's gonna do the White.
Speaker 12: House, except because of a certain special time we're in
Speaker 12: and other things that have developed.
Speaker 3: I have stated publically now that it could happen on
Speaker 3: Joe Robin. So if the head of State goes on
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan and announces that it's this any things doing
Speaker 3: in the old Office, now, that says a lot about
Speaker 3: where we are and Joe Loki. But that would be enough.
Speaker 3: It's the master key.
Speaker 7: The moment those words come out of that president's mouth,
Speaker 7: he is just given everybody the master key to a
Speaker 7: thousand doors that have been locked for the last eighty
Speaker 7: years about this, that and everything else, and you can't
Speaker 7: even go deal with them because you can't open that door. Suddenly,
Speaker 7: disclosure is the master key, and various people in the
Speaker 7: politics and elsewhere journalism are going to say, Ah'm going
Speaker 7: to take that key.
Speaker 3: They're going to open that door in that door, and for.
Speaker 7: The rest of your lives you are going to be
Speaker 7: dealing with the next stuff behind the next door.
Speaker 3: So that's disclosure Capital B. It can only be now.
Speaker 6: Small D.
Speaker 3: Disclosure is the process of which it stuff's coming out.
Speaker 13: Richard Dolman writes a book that small D disclosure Right
Speaker 13: a witness comes forward it says, hey, this is what
Speaker 13: happened to be small disclosure, and so that's happening all
Speaker 13: the time and it will continue.
Speaker 3: But the confusion there is mixing.
Speaker 7: I guess you could say research and process with politics
Speaker 7: and in a sense events.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't really have the name for that.
Speaker 3: But it's one thing to find out something new and
Speaker 3: write a book.
Speaker 7: It's another thing for the head of the most powerful
Speaker 7: nation in the world to come out and tell you
Speaker 7: we're not alone.
Speaker 3: That is what I've been trying to do. And it's okay,
Speaker 3: it is confused. I gotta pick forward confirmation, okay, and with.
Speaker 6: A capital C.
Speaker 7: But I said, you know that's got some religious connotations.
Speaker 7: They're going to confuse that with the Catholic.
Speaker 3: Confirmation or whatever. No, And so I said, no, we're
Speaker 3: going to go with that and just stick to something
Speaker 3: we know.
Speaker 7: When I say disclosure is inevitable, I'm not saying it's
Speaker 7: inevitable that we'll be writing in an anagrammic ship in
Speaker 7: a couple of years. I'm saying it is inevitable that
Speaker 7: a head of state is going to come out and
Speaker 7: say this, and we're going to enter that world.
Speaker 3: And it's either going to be our president or it's
Speaker 3: going to be another president.
Speaker 7: And there's about eight or nine on that list, including
Speaker 7: all the nuclear nations, which includes China and Russia.
Speaker 3: In the UK, Israel, Okay, so forth, and Pakistan. One
Speaker 3: of those letters state comes out and says it, that's it.
Speaker 3: And while we may hold back, maybe our presence saying no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no, it explodes, and that head of state, whether
Speaker 3: it's Pakistan or Chiji ping Putin, has just.
Speaker 7: Triggered one of the most profound events, if not the
Speaker 7: most profound event in human history.
Speaker 3: Will be thought of as a great truth teller. We'll
Speaker 3: get a Nobel.
Speaker 7: Product and go down in history in a way that
Speaker 7: even Giga's Khan might admire.
Speaker 3: And that's hanging out there. Who is going to take
Speaker 3: that brass ring?
Speaker 7: I would prefer it was the president of the United States,
Speaker 7: the one that's in the White House.
Speaker 3: Now, it's a good point that another morning.
Speaker 5: Now, somewheld argue the government is preparing us slowly through
Speaker 5: controlled disclosure.
Speaker 3: Do you believe there is a drift beat.
Speaker 5: Strategy and that they are trying to get the world
Speaker 5: ready for that day, or do you think that it's
Speaker 5: being forced.
Speaker 3: Upon them from It's more complicated than that.
Speaker 7: I think the extraterrestrial activities, particularly the last.
Speaker 3: Eighty years, it is clearly if it has decision, they're
Speaker 3: constantly being seen.
Speaker 7: Right if you don't want to have the people in
Speaker 7: the world, now you're here, cloak, right, of course.
Speaker 3: They can cloak. And they've been seen all the time.
Speaker 3: They start to pick you know, not just a few times,
Speaker 3: but many times because the research is not fully out there.
Speaker 7: But in westcal and Ruak they laying next to school yards,
Speaker 7: the actual physical craft and.
Speaker 14: Get out and the school kids come running over course
Speaker 14: they are right, and then there's a couple of you know.
Speaker 3: A stress school kids and important images in their heads
Speaker 3: and those images and this gets one of the subject.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go there because it for our lecture.
Speaker 6: I've had my time.
Speaker 3: The images are like now things are gonna go real,
Speaker 3: bad kids, and then those kids take that with them
Speaker 3: through the rest of their life. Some suffered from it,
Speaker 3: others was interested, but.
Speaker 7: The message got out less Hall was study. The Rulways
Speaker 7: got a documentary. So if you don't want people to
Speaker 7: know about you, you don't land next to school yards. Also,
Speaker 7: they've taken thousands of people as part of the contact
Speaker 7: thief phenomena.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't talk about it in a political sense.
Speaker 3: I don't talk about it to Congress. Its God has
Speaker 3: to stay over here on the side table. We can't
Speaker 3: go in the door with that. You don't want to
Speaker 3: go to the New York Times and interviews. Hey, let's
Speaker 3: talk about contact ees. Is it fair?
Speaker 15: Nough?
Speaker 6: It's not.
Speaker 3: They should have been heard a long time ago. But
Speaker 3: let's face it, we've got to do with what works.
Speaker 3: But the number of contact these in the millions, you
Speaker 3: may or may not know.
Speaker 7: There's been half a million at least written reports sent
Speaker 7: to researchers who, because they couldn't send it anywhere, they
Speaker 7: at least wanted the researcher to know Hopkins and.
Speaker 3: Whitney, Streeber and others. This is what happened to me.
Speaker 3: I just want you to know half a million of them.
Speaker 3: And so because those who read those things know a
Speaker 3: great deal about what's going on with this issue.
Speaker 12: And so guess what, around nine, late nineteen eighties, all
Speaker 12: of a sudden, contact fee started remembering apparently before that
Speaker 12: they couldn't.
Speaker 16: And then also the meetings are just coming out, and
Speaker 16: then they started going hey.
Speaker 3: Wow, and then they go to the therapist and they're
Speaker 3: doing regressions and more memories are coming out. If you're
Speaker 3: at ET and you really don't want us to act
Speaker 3: on this and do over here, you don't let those
Speaker 3: memories come out. You can plant it to block them forever.
Speaker 3: So the ETS are helping.
Speaker 7: But let me tell you, in terms of disclosure, the
Speaker 7: American people and the world's people are the ones that
Speaker 7: deserve the most credit. The people have stepped into this
Speaker 7: around the world. I've spoken and I don't know twenty
Speaker 7: five countries we know what's happening. But in America that
Speaker 7: dominated because we have been the dominant interaction because of
Speaker 7: the ETS, because we're the person wants to get the
Speaker 7: atomic bomb.
Speaker 3: And we actually drop the damn things. And we are
Speaker 3: the technological leader in the world, so little less now
Speaker 3: and so we couldn't have to focus.
Speaker 7: But let me tell you, give them millions of people
Speaker 7: that it helped get us here where we are is large.
Speaker 3: So I give y'all the most credit, all right, And
Speaker 3: so control disclosure. Let me clear that up's a language issue.
Speaker 3: Control disclosure a little bit awkward. But in the disclosure
Speaker 3: pack they.
Speaker 7: Refer to the control disclosure, and so immediately people jumped up, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I knew it.
Speaker 6: I knew it. You're controlling the whole thing.
Speaker 7: No, the reason they use the word control disclosure because
Speaker 7: the process that the Act is describing, in which everything
Speaker 7: comes forward is reviewed, advanced to the archives, it is
Speaker 7: going to be in a controlled process. They're really talking
Speaker 7: about controlled post disclosure disclosure, meaning.
Speaker 3: Look, we're gonna do this, but we're going to do
Speaker 3: it responsibly.
Speaker 7: We're just not going to haul a bunch of saucers
Speaker 7: out on the White House law and let's you come
Speaker 7: and look at them.
Speaker 3: We're not going to be throwing the tech up on
Speaker 3: the net. We're going to do it in a controlled way.
Speaker 7: And so that, again there's an example of language creating
Speaker 7: issues in my job is the right.
Speaker 5: So let's say, okay, let's say tomorrow Donald Trump steps
Speaker 5: up and announces we are not alone the way.
Speaker 3: You described a true capital D disclosure.
Speaker 5: I mean, what happens next in politics, what happens in religion, science, culture?
Speaker 3: Is what does our daily lives changeful?
Speaker 7: Well, he will have launched from that moment the greatest
Speaker 7: streaming series of all. It's going to win a thousand images. Okay,
Speaker 7: it's gonna have a thousand.
Speaker 3: Episodes, and you're gonna be able to watch them all
Speaker 3: even if you don't want to. This is gonna be everywhere.
Speaker 3: He will have triggered the most extraordinary period probably in human.
Speaker 7: History, even greater than when three thousand years ago they're
Speaker 7: hanging out in Egypt helping the pyramids be built.
Speaker 3: But they were just gods back then, and what did
Speaker 3: people know the implications of it. It was kind of cool.
Speaker 7: It made Ancient Aliens one of the greatest shows of
Speaker 7: all time. But no, no, no, no no, we're spacefaring
Speaker 7: advanced civilization. Now we've already caught it the Moon. We
Speaker 7: want to go to Mars apparently part.
Speaker 3: Of Elon, and so disclosure at this time, Oh no,
Speaker 3: totally different.
Speaker 17: In other words, I could be wrong, but before open contact,
Speaker 17: open contact not to help us build the pyramids, but
Speaker 17: to discuss how we're going to conduct our affairs so
Speaker 17: that we can be part of possibly.
Speaker 7: That galactic federation we'd never only call it. That is
Speaker 7: where this is going, because their advanced space bearing civilization.
Speaker 7: We're just about to be advancing in spacefaring civilization.
Speaker 6: We're kind of violent.
Speaker 3: We like the new people, so it's time to kind
Speaker 3: of get together, see what's going on, and say, look,
Speaker 3: he wants you to come out with us, but you've
Speaker 3: got to clean up your act. That's kind of where
Speaker 3: things are going here. And so when those words come out,
Speaker 3: and Danny Sheen, because of all those Harvard degrees, says
Speaker 3: it better than I do.
Speaker 7: But he gets really elaborate stuff. But Danny Sheen is
Speaker 7: the new world experpert right now in terms of how
Speaker 7: things are going to go.
Speaker 6: Keep it simple, all.
Speaker 18: Right, at that moment, we are now on an entire
Speaker 18: new trajectory. If I was fifteen years old, oh god,
Speaker 18: it would be fantastic. If you're in here and you're fifteen.
Speaker 3: Years old, let me tell you, you're gonna have a
Speaker 3: great time. So it's a trajectory. It is going to
Speaker 3: take us probably into a.
Speaker 7: True space bearing civilization and hopefully be able to check
Speaker 7: any certain behaviors so that we can get there in
Speaker 7: one piece.
Speaker 3: I don't know how it's gonna play.
Speaker 7: Out, but if when you think about it, you've got
Speaker 7: these ideas of interacting, hopefully in open contact with ets,
Speaker 7: you're talking about the possibility of new technologies revolutionary technologies
Speaker 7: in this world as.
Speaker 6: You're going forward, and so the whole world is going
Speaker 6: to be kind.
Speaker 3: Of their brains are on fire. What can happen? Where
Speaker 3: is it going?
Speaker 6: Wow? What's gonna go?
Speaker 7: And so and then because all of this now can
Speaker 7: be shared to the internet, and everybody's got a the
Speaker 7: seventies TV. Now, by the way, if you don't have
Speaker 7: a big TV, you've got to get one. Now, get
Speaker 7: down to Costco. They're all it's going to be on sale.
Speaker 7: Get the biggest dam TV you can because you do
Speaker 7: not want to watch this on a computer screen.
Speaker 3: You want to watch those play out on seventy four,
Speaker 3: eight and eighty inches.
Speaker 7: You're going to watch the world transform literally in real time.
Speaker 7: I cannot even describe how many things are going to
Speaker 7: be happening and how many things is going to be engaged.
Speaker 7: Because once that event takes place, it doesn't open a
Speaker 7: couple of doors and then they open a couple of more.
Speaker 3: It basically offers the ability to open up a thousand doors.
Speaker 3: It's going to change the entire world over a very
Speaker 3: relatively short period of time. That is a relatively crude way.
Speaker 7: Of trying to say what's going to happen, and I
Speaker 7: believe that the vast majority of it will be quite pleasant,
Speaker 7: quite good, quite positive. It's going to be difficult to
Speaker 7: demonize this thing. And again I say demons. Some religious
Speaker 7: people see that, they will concerned it might be demons.
Speaker 7: They're not, but I get bad language. It's going to
Speaker 7: be difficult, though, to really make it crass or make
Speaker 7: it evil and what have you. Because the evidence, a
Speaker 7: huge amount of evidence that we've established regarding an et presence,
Speaker 7: what they're like, and they think, how they act, you
Speaker 7: know a lot more than you may know.
Speaker 3: It's substantial, says it can't it's not being Targo Harvard.
Speaker 3: It's not being covered up fully in the news. But
Speaker 3: we know a great deal to thanks for the work
Speaker 3: with a lot of people. And overall ets are pretty cool.
Speaker 6: Okay, not bad.
Speaker 3: You do a couple of things, an't that crazy about
Speaker 3: but compared to human behavior, but we want to behave
Speaker 3: then there aren't even in the ballpark. In other words,
Speaker 3: we are the threat right now, not then.
Speaker 6: So that's kind of and I want that.
Speaker 3: I want that new era to begin within a couple
Speaker 3: of months, if you don't mind. Mister President is going
Speaker 3: a couple of months, because I'm not sure everybody in
Speaker 3: the room knows where it's done.
Speaker 6: As much resare I'm sure they have.
Speaker 5: But during the days of George Bush Senior, they didn't
Speaker 5: commission a private think tank that how putoff was parload.
Speaker 5: And what they essentially asked this thinkin to do was
Speaker 5: come up with a one through ten number. Is disclosure
Speaker 5: of the non human intelligence going to be positive or negative?
Speaker 3: So zero would be you know, no impact, ten would
Speaker 3: be destabilization.
Speaker 11: That think tank, you know, just twenty years ago, came
Speaker 11: up with the suggestion that they do not disclose because
Speaker 11: they would destabilize our religions, our our economy.
Speaker 3: And there's got to be opedient, how convenient, And that's
Speaker 3: what Okay.
Speaker 7: There's they're they're they're they're they're doing a survey of
Speaker 7: the people who have a substantial vested interest and not
Speaker 7: do it and ask them what do you think?
Speaker 6: So they said, no, I get it.
Speaker 19: I get it.
Speaker 5: And that's the problem they're asking these you know, they're
Speaker 5: bringing people are double dipping and it's a real problem
Speaker 5: in the UFO community that I see is you know,
Speaker 5: and I don't mean to passion on how it put
Speaker 5: off specifically or guys like Eric Davis. But they know
Speaker 5: so much yet, why aren't they being subpoena to Congress?
Speaker 5: Why aren't they being demanded Listen, tell us what you
Speaker 5: know to get this going?
Speaker 3: Eric Davis was just in Congress. Why are we not talking.
Speaker 5: About the obvious memo that would confirm all of our beliefs?
Speaker 7: I mean, you want to be an activist podcaster, You
Speaker 7: can't be an activist, You can't be both of those things.
Speaker 3: It just it really aggravates me. How I mean because
Speaker 3: during the David Gresha.
Speaker 5: Review his his testimony, you guys might remember that the
Speaker 5: Johnny depth Amber heard trial was going on. Can you
Speaker 5: get which one got more coverage?
Speaker 6: That's pretty good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a good distraction.
Speaker 5: It just seems like every time we get close to disclosure,
Speaker 5: the left hand goes, oh, what would I got?
Speaker 7: Certain amount of that is orchestrated, most of it is
Speaker 7: a circumstantial, beyond war here whatever.
Speaker 6: But I think what here is?
Speaker 3: What I would say that what you just said, I
Speaker 3: get it. First of all, if if one, if you
Speaker 3: can appreciate.
Speaker 20: How complicated and difficult this is. It's it's not like
Speaker 20: trying to get some part of the government to confess
Speaker 20: the fact that they know maybe massage s figures.
Speaker 6: In a report.
Speaker 3: This is a what a transcendent thing that's happening. I
Speaker 3: went a lot that has been contained for eighty years,
Speaker 3: not just a few years, because of incredibly significant aspects
Speaker 3: of it. Because and this is one of the things
Speaker 3: that I didn't get into.
Speaker 7: Every day, But it turns out there is a very
Speaker 7: significant connection between the ET presence in the first place
Speaker 7: and the.
Speaker 3: Use of nuclear bombs by others, initially.
Speaker 7: Actually dropping them on human beings, where the only count
Speaker 7: that's done that, and also the ET I think of
Speaker 7: agenda in a sense, there's actually a connection there.
Speaker 6: This is big.
Speaker 3: And the other thing that makes it super big is
Speaker 3: that the national security state that we're in.
Speaker 7: And the issues involved are not just you know, we
Speaker 7: have our shoes, we have the odd war or over
Speaker 7: border or something. No, unless you're older than seventy nine,
Speaker 7: you have lived every second of your life under a
Speaker 7: nuclear threat, under mutual assured destruction.
Speaker 3: You may not have known that when you were a kid,
Speaker 3: but that's kind of it. Every moment of.
Speaker 7: Your life we have lived where at some point somebody
Speaker 7: makes a mistake, got up the wrong side of the bed,
Speaker 7: leaned against the wrong.
Speaker 3: Switch or whatever, and launches a.
Speaker 7: Couple of nukes and it's like, oh see, so sorry
Speaker 7: or delivered, and that's it.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, they're flying. We've seen movies about this,
Speaker 3: we know about it. It's in our dreams. We've adapted
Speaker 3: to it and normalized it. But you know, however much
Speaker 3: you've normalized it, those missiles fly, it's not going to
Speaker 3: be well. I was expecting this. Yeah, let's have a
Speaker 3: drink and finish this up. No, you've been living under that.
Speaker 7: Once you talk about something like this, which is going
Speaker 7: to come out at the same time, we're still under
Speaker 7: an endless nuclear threat.
Speaker 3: The idea that you have have to be careful and
Speaker 3: compromise or you can't say this, or you can't say that.
Speaker 3: It's not hard to deal with.
Speaker 7: So when I see these things happening, I don't get
Speaker 7: upset with the people that are involved.
Speaker 3: I'm not upset because they didn't go further, they did
Speaker 3: this or did that. I look at the broader picture
Speaker 3: and I say, in the.
Speaker 21: Broader sense, where are we going we're heading? Or disclosure
Speaker 21: And so David Drush has made this contribution. Other people
Speaker 21: have made their contributions, and so yeah, why don't we subpoena.
Speaker 7: Them Because this issue almost requires a significant amount of
Speaker 7: assistance from people inside. We need their cooperation as well.
Speaker 7: We don't have to beat the doors down in the Pentagon.
Speaker 7: We need some help on the inside. You start subpoena.
Speaker 3: People and then you're pushing them away, and so my
Speaker 3: thing is to keep it together, keep it moving forward again.
Speaker 7: This is the activist perspective that I do my best
Speaker 7: to provide so that some sort of balance could be
Speaker 7: held to.
Speaker 3: Get the job done. Activism is getting to where you
Speaker 3: have to go getting the prize. It's not some particular
Speaker 3: way where you run over people, because that may not work.
Speaker 7: You want to pick the path it gets you the prize.
Speaker 7: And I believe in this circumstance it's encouraging cooperation, not
Speaker 7: controlling people, not attacking anybody, but simply describe me where
Speaker 7: we can go together until enough people.
Speaker 6: Are going there and you get there.
Speaker 3: So that's why I don't get too a problematic about that.
Speaker 3: There's thousands and thousands of people now engaging this issue
Speaker 3: in some way or another. Some are a little difficult,
Speaker 3: some are a little off here but the totality of
Speaker 3: the people engaging it is extremely looks extremely promising. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you and I have been really lucky. After the
Speaker 3: hearing that we just had in November, I had.
Speaker 5: A meeting already scheduling with Nancy Meets and Bob Zachlas
Speaker 5: got there.
Speaker 22: And if you guys know in bov Is the witnesses
Speaker 22: a nineteen sixty seven Moundstream incident. And you know, I
Speaker 22: don't like to pat myself on the back, but I
Speaker 22: stepped aside and instead of interviewing Nancy Mace.
Speaker 5: About the hearing that she just shaired, I allowed Bob's
Speaker 5: Alice to brief her, an active sitting member of Congress,
Speaker 5: about the sixty seven for the very first time.
Speaker 3: And I invited you and you will always be on Christmass.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 23: So our members of Congress, they know that these crafts
Speaker 23: have been seen over our facilities, over our nuclear facilities,
Speaker 23: our most sensitive facilities, and they have.
Speaker 5: The capability to just switch it off, switch every you know.
Speaker 5: They we may think the nuclear arsenal is the pinnacle
Speaker 5: of the weaponry, but to them it.
Speaker 3: Just seems like child's play, and they can shut it
Speaker 3: off whenever they want. But they want us to know this.
Speaker 3: This is one of the most important This may be
Speaker 3: the most important aspect of this. And I'm on podcasts.
Speaker 3: I feel I go there with lightning, right, That's why
Speaker 3: they're all two hours long.
Speaker 7: Really very basically, the connection between leads and the nuclear
Speaker 7: weapons may be at the heart of the thing, near
Speaker 7: the center.
Speaker 3: In other words, they shut our missiles down in the sixties.
Speaker 3: Apparently the first event is sixty six, then sixty seven.
Speaker 3: After that the Air Force is going, well, this is
Speaker 3: a really problem, and.
Speaker 7: So any there were future events that the Air Force
Speaker 7: just locked it down, right, whatever the hell they did.
Speaker 3: And so you don't know too much about that.
Speaker 7: But researchers that went to Russia there a number of
Speaker 7: people have gone to Russia and done good research, have
Speaker 7: in documents they found they're confirmed and apparently they shut
Speaker 7: some missiles down in soon as well. Okay, and then
Speaker 7: there's records showing that on two occasions, at least in
Speaker 7: the US.
Speaker 3: And once in the Soviet Union. And this isn't book
Speaker 3: UFOs Anddukes, the most important book on this sub drive.
Speaker 3: Robert Hastings, he's still here. He needs he needs to
Speaker 3: get a prize.
Speaker 7: Some dady should gi him a prize that they turn
Speaker 7: them on, meaning they set them in the launch mode.
Speaker 7: And so the guy's down in the silo having a
Speaker 7: hand sandwich, gonna chill them, nothing much happening, and all
Speaker 7: of a sudden they look over and they're going, I think.
Speaker 6: That's launch mode.
Speaker 7: Goes and there's a secrets he's gotta do. Yeah, this
Speaker 7: is that they can fuel the missile in the house.
Speaker 7: And they're going, that's not good because that goes all the.
Speaker 5: Way to the top.
Speaker 3: He says, you're gonna launch, and that's gonna be awful.
Speaker 3: On my resume, we didn't even turn the cave. So
Speaker 3: they are absolutely in terror.
Speaker 7: And it goes all the way up to the point
Speaker 7: where the next thing launches the missiles they're about to start.
Speaker 3: The world we're upon now. It's not known whether that
Speaker 3: when we have witnesses, do we craft over. I assume
Speaker 3: there must have been a craft over there, so in
Speaker 3: any event, they turn them on, but they don't have
Speaker 3: to have done that. They've done this. Okay, So what
Speaker 3: in that that was going on?
Speaker 7: Well, we have a lot of ideas about that, but
Speaker 7: from the standpoint of the Department of Defense, the shutdown
Speaker 7: of the nuclear missiles is the most.
Speaker 3: Problematic thing they've ever done.
Speaker 7: They could, they could, they could, They could have bucked me.
Speaker 7: See one of youmorrow, take you a picnic somewhere, have
Speaker 7: a good party.
Speaker 3: They could care less.
Speaker 7: This is another matter why because if this really becomes out,
Speaker 7: and it's now getting out, the boy they've been trying to.
Speaker 3: Get it out since nineteen sixty nineteen ninety fours, that's
Speaker 3: thirty years. The people who are going to learn they
Speaker 3: can shut down our news. It's going to be formalist.
Speaker 3: It's going to be accepted. Yeah, it happened.
Speaker 7: And if you're the Department of Defense, you do not
Speaker 7: want the American people knowing that you can't do a
Speaker 7: damn thing about having your nuke shutdown.
Speaker 3: That's the ultimate emasculation.
Speaker 5: There is a social con like a contract that we
Speaker 5: you know, i'll pay my taxes, you keep me safe.
Speaker 5: And if they flatline on their part and say we
Speaker 5: can't keep you safe from whatever this is. It doesn't
Speaker 5: have to be aliens. It doesn't have to It could
Speaker 5: be future humans for all we know, but we can't
Speaker 5: do anything about it. They can fly with impunity over
Speaker 5: any place they want at any.
Speaker 3: Time, and there's nothing we can do when that gets admitted,
Speaker 3: Why do I pay my taxes? You can't do anything
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 7: It's true, that's true, But people that follow the issue
Speaker 7: know something about the phenomenon industry.
Speaker 3: It's just common sense.
Speaker 7: That, yeah, it's really we can do if they are
Speaker 7: very fast species interstellar.
Speaker 3: I believe they could do anything they want.
Speaker 6: So you sort of know that.
Speaker 3: But the nuclear shutdown formalizes it. It makes it, really,
Speaker 3: it makes the subsidence.
Speaker 7: And so they have everything they can to not let
Speaker 7: that get into a congressional hearing. And for thirty years,
Speaker 7: Bob Salice is trying to do this, and he is
Speaker 7: his other fellow command.
Speaker 3: Officers, and again this is the this is the crumb,
Speaker 3: the crumb.
Speaker 7: Okay, these are Air Force officers whose psychological stability as such,
Speaker 7: and then they are granted the privilege to run a
Speaker 7: big part of the two men silo the command where
Speaker 7: if the codes come through.
Speaker 3: For the president, they are going to turn those switches.
Speaker 3: And if the two decide to do it, because you know,
Speaker 3: they're pistol.
Speaker 7: Off with society or their life's not going well, that's
Speaker 7: not good, and so they're absolutely brought solid and so
Speaker 7: when those guys started coming forward and saying, look, they
Speaker 7: turned our missiles.
Speaker 3: Off, and you need to know this. We need to
Speaker 3: get this out there. The tire Department of Defense is
Speaker 3: going that can't happen. And so since ninety four and
Speaker 3: the UFOs and.
Speaker 7: News Luke's books, plus the documentary, they have never been
Speaker 7: able to testify in Congress.
Speaker 6: They have been ignored.
Speaker 3: How I could it?
Speaker 24: Is this the good realized at Saalas wasn't going to
Speaker 24: go away and they were going to kill and he
Speaker 24: had four or five other nuke officers are ready to
Speaker 24: back them up, and they knew about other security guys.
Speaker 7: They're younger guys who were officers that were up top,
Speaker 7: you know, trying to protect them, and they're seeing the
Speaker 7: damn craft and they're all running around.
Speaker 3: In circles, scared the death. Afterwards about there one of
Speaker 3: the events, they found one of the security guys balled
Speaker 3: up in a corner right literally shaking. Those guys have
Speaker 3: never come forward, but they could. They were the younger
Speaker 3: they're still around and so they're going that cannot happen.
Speaker 7: And so over the last three years, a major book,
Speaker 7: a major documentary, two three, three book, four books, actually.
Speaker 3: Two press conference of the National Press Club, okay, and
Speaker 3: anything else they could do to get this forward. It
Speaker 3: hasn't worked.
Speaker 7: Why because the Department of Defense policy on this, there's
Speaker 7: really they decided to do.
Speaker 3: We can't kill them, we can't disgrace you and make
Speaker 3: them disappear, so will ghost of them. Ye, And so
Speaker 3: they ghosted it, meaning I don't know, don't know, these
Speaker 3: people are a ridiculous question, don't say anything right and
Speaker 3: hope that the media will go along. And the media
Speaker 3: basically did go along, but they made little progress.
Speaker 6: Every year.
Speaker 3: This has been a thirty four year.
Speaker 7: Battle chess game between the most important witnesses ever and
Speaker 7: the US government's policy.
Speaker 3: And guess what they're about to have their day. We're
Speaker 3: really close. Mace said she.
Speaker 7: Would like to have the nuclear witnesses. Burlusen is like
Speaker 7: to have the nuclear witnesses. That has been my number
Speaker 7: one project for the last six months. Every single member
Speaker 7: of the Under Oversight Committee, every single member office rather
Speaker 7: of the House, I mean the Senate Intelligence Committee, has
Speaker 7: gotten from the two hard copies of their witness statements
Speaker 7: and EFFI David's, as well as the links to the
Speaker 7: book UFOs and news and the documentary and so forth.
Speaker 6: All of that is in their offices.
Speaker 3: That also is under electronic version of that, and so
Speaker 3: it's now there. It's it's in.
Speaker 7: Play, and I think they're close to bringing them. But
Speaker 7: again the the and they're ready to testify tomorrow. They're
Speaker 7: going to skip tomorrow and testify the next day. They
Speaker 7: understand that these witnesses it is kind of bagging, so
Speaker 7: they're trying to get a little more out there and
Speaker 7: send the spade. But watch for this if you if
Speaker 7: you hear, that's going to be a hearer. And the
Speaker 7: witnesses are announced, and Bob Saalas or David Shindelli or
Speaker 7: Robert Jamison or Rob Bob Jacobs, who's another nuclear champion bowlers.
Speaker 3: What maw was, if they are in the mix, then
Speaker 3: bow you need to you need to get the champagne
Speaker 3: in and get read of the party.
Speaker 25: You know what I find to be.
Speaker 5: Really interesting, and you know the Exeter event actually ties
Speaker 5: into this. So I am heavily as you know, the
Speaker 5: nuclear the topic of the new like the connection between
Speaker 5: your post and news is something that it just won't
Speaker 5: go at it it will knock my head and go away.
Speaker 3: And I started to see these beams because I've interviewed
Speaker 3: Bob and Dave and all these people and every time.
Speaker 5: So if you look at the Salas kids, if you
Speaker 5: look at the Chaneli cakes, if you look at Mario
Speaker 5: Woodson's case, if you look at the Exeter case, there's
Speaker 5: always nuclear material because the P's Air Force Base also
Speaker 5: have nuclear material. And then there's this red orange orb
Speaker 5: or orbs and that are doing whatever they're doing.
Speaker 3: So there's these common threads along all these cases as well,
Speaker 3: and Exeter happens to be fit right into the hold
Speaker 3: of those other lots.
Speaker 5: And you know, I just wonder, like you said, I
Speaker 5: think if they put those nuclear witnesses up.
Speaker 3: There, and if the country is able to watch and
Speaker 3: listen to their testimony, and if their stomach isn't turning
Speaker 3: by the end of it, then they probably don't have
Speaker 3: a vested in the national security.
Speaker 6: Okay, well let me say this.
Speaker 15: If you wonder why I am so work there right
Speaker 15: about this, committed to this right because in my first
Speaker 15: half of my life I did get pass.
Speaker 3: From or committed as much of anything.
Speaker 7: You know, there's a problem, but now oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 7: there better late than never. It's this if you look
Speaker 7: at the song of the evidence right, which includes of
Speaker 7: course all of the nuclear shut down events, all the
Speaker 7: school yard events, and many.
Speaker 3: Of the accounts of contact fees.
Speaker 7: That tell you what they've experienced up in the show,
Speaker 7: which getting messages in the head right showing the destruction
Speaker 7: and other things. If you look at it all, it's
Speaker 7: it's hard not to conclude that one of the objectives
Speaker 7: for their presence is not just making hybrid kids that
Speaker 7: are going to live a great life and another planet somewhere,
Speaker 7: but getting us past the nuclear weapons issue and getting
Speaker 7: rid of them, because obviously, why waste a perfectly nice
Speaker 7: civilization it took billions of years to get to whatever,
Speaker 7: or you can't get it.
Speaker 3: You can't be part of our world if you've got
Speaker 3: the nukes, because if you do, you're gonna build a starship,
Speaker 3: fill it up with news, the cruise on out and
Speaker 3: do something stupid like Nuka another primitive society somewhere.
Speaker 7: And so I believe what we're seeing is if we
Speaker 7: can complete this is this is the pathway that would
Speaker 7: result in no news in any country on this planet.
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean everybody's happy with each other, doesn't mean they're
Speaker 3: not firing some you know.
Speaker 7: Rockets or so there's no news on this planet within
Speaker 7: three or four or five years, and that means we're
Speaker 7: no longer living under mutual assured destruction, and maybe other
Speaker 7: things will come from that that think think about that
Speaker 7: as a goal, think of that as a realistic goal,
Speaker 7: and you think that this is leading to that.
Speaker 3: How intense would you get?
Speaker 26: Right?
Speaker 7: Some of you didn't have children and grandchildren, which probably
Speaker 7: get a lot more intense than I.
Speaker 3: I don't many kids and grandchildren. I'm intense at that.
Speaker 10: So this is, this is on the horizon and without
Speaker 10: without the ets.
Speaker 3: Here, that history and all this stuff, they're done. If
Speaker 3: they weren't even there, and we've had all this stuff moved,
Speaker 3: we've done.
Speaker 7: And and all the threats we're making. I would say
Speaker 7: your clift just a matter of time, but not now.
Speaker 7: I see possibilities.
Speaker 6: That's why I do what I do, and that's what.
Speaker 3: I love you, Steve.
Speaker 11: I wanted to I did go over a little bit
Speaker 11: of time, So I'm going to bring it, yeah, a
Speaker 11: little bit of it over.
Speaker 6: I thought, I apologize.
Speaker 5: You're absolutely amazing, So I am going to bring up
Speaker 5: thank you for being so we are talking to minute.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Steve, Thank you.
Speaker 27: Everybody says there's some new people in the community, and
Speaker 27: I find them to be very, very intriguing.
Speaker 16: Nat and Jean stick Out are right here and uh
Speaker 16: Nat is the daughter of a Soviet scientist who has documented.
Speaker 5: A from a program that was confirmed to be reverse
Speaker 5: engineering UFOs, so she has direct they have a blueprint
Speaker 5: for how to reverse engineer UFOs. But again they're from
Speaker 5: the USSR, so we know that the USSR had a program.
Speaker 5: Steve talked about how they turned the nuclear weapons is on.
Speaker 28: In in the in the Soviet Union, So I wanted
Speaker 28: to bring them up and talk about what names, what
Speaker 28: their work is, and how how it will linked to
Speaker 28: the UK.
Speaker 6: So so.
Speaker 3: Let's I'm gonna start with a little bit of an
Speaker 3: origin and a peace still time for the questions in
Speaker 3: the audience. But how did you guys come across this?
Speaker 23: And you know what what is it?
Speaker 3: What did I just said? So literally it's blueprint a
Speaker 3: how to reverse engineer in the UFO. And who was
Speaker 3: your father?
Speaker 6: Honestly, that was not the.
Speaker 5: Man I was introduced to because I always thought like
Speaker 5: his day job was plumbing, right, and I know he
Speaker 5: did some scientific stuff, because again he.
Speaker 3: Credited from a good university, right. But yeah, when I
Speaker 3: was a kid, I had no idea what he was
Speaker 3: engaged in.
Speaker 5: Right, And when we found those papers, it's just amazing
Speaker 5: because I was totally unaware.
Speaker 16: Who my father was.
Speaker 3: So can you describe why it's so imperative? What gene?
Speaker 6: Why is this?
Speaker 5: Why is this work and why is this blueprint of
Speaker 5: reverse engineer in the UFO? How does it confirm you
Speaker 5: know anything about the US programs?
Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean this was the amazing thing.
Speaker 25: And as you mentioned, we outside binging ancient aliens maybe
Speaker 25: on a weekend.
Speaker 6: I had no interest in this subject. To be honest
Speaker 6: with you, I still had very little interest in this subject.
Speaker 6: But this was dropped and our dropped in our laps,
Speaker 6: and as we dove into it.
Speaker 25: And began the train translation, it began talking to people
Speaker 25: and began, you know, looking at the issues. It became
Speaker 25: so profound for so many reasons because all of the
Speaker 25: answers are in there.
Speaker 6: You name the phenomenon, it's in there. You know.
Speaker 25: I extracted all of the core science and this is
Speaker 25: one hundred and nineteen pages of physics, physics and drawings
Speaker 25: that you can actually show one of the examples.
Speaker 7: The diagram when I found really interesting is the diagram
Speaker 7: that she's about to look up?
Speaker 3: Now, what does that look like? Kind of looks like
Speaker 3: what Mazar is describing her.
Speaker 6: And this is one of the things.
Speaker 25: I've even taken the testimony from whistleblowers and then not
Speaker 25: a scientific analysis against the testimony, and again it explains
Speaker 25: everything I have taken the.
Speaker 6: Core science there's essentially fifty two.
Speaker 29: Domains as a call, and compared against publicly available data
Speaker 29: declassified documents, and I found a ninety up to a
Speaker 29: ninety five.
Speaker 25: Percent direct correlation between the science and the US programs,
Speaker 25: just in a general sense. And then when I get
Speaker 25: into defense, because then I looked at it from has
Speaker 25: the government done, you know, have there been any programs
Speaker 25: that would develop technology that could defend the technology as
Speaker 25: it's described in the blueprints?
Speaker 6: And found six specific programs, so.
Speaker 25: That crosses seventy five agencies at about one hundred and
Speaker 25: fifty billion dollars a year.
Speaker 6: And the thing is, and this is the way I
Speaker 6: was saying before.
Speaker 25: Nobody's lying about it, because when you say do you
Speaker 25: have this, you know we want to know what you have.
Speaker 6: About UAPs, and they say we don't have anything about UAPs.
Speaker 25: They're actually one hundred percent correct, they do not. What
Speaker 25: they have are different scientific topics that are compartmentalized and
Speaker 25: spread between agencies and contractors that if you put together
Speaker 25: into one document you would have what we have, which
Speaker 25: is a single unified collection of works that explains how
Speaker 25: how everything operates, and.
Speaker 3: Just like constitutes what job did you hold?
Speaker 6: Who were you before this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I kind of why is your opinion on?
Speaker 6: So? You know I was retired when these dropped in
Speaker 6: my lap. I'll just say that my previous background. I
Speaker 6: started out early in my career.
Speaker 25: I was a US Air Force UH security specialist, which
Speaker 25: was nuclear weapons system security.
Speaker 6: And then post military, I spent my career in the
Speaker 6: intelligence contracting firm. In telling it's contracting Realm. So I've
Speaker 6: worked with everything.
Speaker 25: From private military companies through Homeland Security, Department of Energy
Speaker 25: CIA for seventeen years, contracting through them in various entities.
Speaker 25: So I come out of the intelligence world, which is
Speaker 25: again more of an interesting coincidence that this would.
Speaker 6: Drop on my lap. You know, too many years after
Speaker 6: I retired.
Speaker 3: You fell in love with.
Speaker 6: So I don't want to say so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can say so much because.
Speaker 6: You feel all.
Speaker 3: He fell in love with a lot being and so
Speaker 3: that brought you.
Speaker 5: To discovering her father's her father's work, and essentially to
Speaker 5: come through all the bs.
Speaker 16: It is a guide on how these craft work, what
Speaker 16: they are doing to manipulate.
Speaker 3: The environment around them.
Speaker 16: Every when he says everything is in there, it really
Speaker 16: does touch on everything. And it's not if it's not
Speaker 16: an easy read, if you don't have a physics background
Speaker 16: or you know a scientific background, it can look it's
Speaker 16: it's it might look like a college physic.
Speaker 3: Textbook, but it wasn't Russian regionally.
Speaker 25: And if I can just on the translation, you know
Speaker 25: the depth and we know there's you know, we've since
Speaker 25: had some physicists and scientists Russian come forward able to
Speaker 25: help us, because we've spent a great deal of time
Speaker 25: just trying to look for somebody to really explain what
Speaker 25: it was and to help out.
Speaker 6: But you know, we we've gone. I was speaking with somebody.
Speaker 25: About ten characters in a formula and he's like, well,
Speaker 25: this was a mechanical engineer and he's like, I don't
Speaker 25: get why there's a three there.
Speaker 30: I said, it might not be a three, It might
Speaker 30: be the cyrillic letter for an abbreviation, and you know,
Speaker 30: and we don't.
Speaker 6: But we spent an hour on ten characters. So when
Speaker 6: I say, you know, we spent four years.
Speaker 25: Even using you know, AI assistance translation and that as
Speaker 25: a native speaker to reconcile it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have an.
Speaker 5: Engineering degree like master's okay, sight engineering, but even for me, right,
Speaker 5: it was just so difficult to grasp like the call
Speaker 5: depth of that.
Speaker 3: Right, I understand what it is about, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Mostly like universe jury of view of all, but there
Speaker 5: are also some social aspects of all that, describing our
Speaker 5: civilizations evolved, which would answer a lot of questions which.
Speaker 3: Potentially people might track.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 5: But again, as I said, it was also challenging to
Speaker 5: actually find a bunch of scientists or engineers who understand
Speaker 5: what it is.
Speaker 3: And I think this is another problem. Why yeah, why
Speaker 3: lots of people that just don't get it or don't
Speaker 3: want to get.
Speaker 5: It, because yeah, you have to give it to a
Speaker 5: scientist who have some credentials and he leads to admit, lister,
Speaker 5: what I don't understand that? So that's like a threat
Speaker 5: to reputation. But no, thank god, you had some people
Speaker 5: who looked at that and they said it's total legit
Speaker 5: and some of the it's like confirms what they are
Speaker 5: working on currently.
Speaker 3: So that's a good at least I want to go.
Speaker 6: I I really do.
Speaker 3: I'm usually pretty nuts and boles. You guys know this
Speaker 3: about me. You know I've had I have I just
Speaker 3: had Avi Loop in the studio and you guys in
Speaker 3: the studio wiz n Berg.
Speaker 5: I talked to a lot of really smart people, but
Speaker 5: I'm kind of nuts and bolts, and I try not
Speaker 5: to stray too far. But there was a mention that, uh,
Speaker 5: we were going to go through a change as humanity
Speaker 5: in this in these papers, and it occurrent last year.
Speaker 10: Can tell you about this.
Speaker 25: So so one of the key near the near the
Speaker 25: end of in these papers, just to explain the structure
Speaker 25: there is. He speaks in terms of observation, so all
Speaker 25: of the language is specific observation.
Speaker 6: It is not I think it is, this is what
Speaker 6: it is.
Speaker 3: Then he details it through the drawings, through the measurements.
Speaker 25: You know, and and and in the formulas, then explain
Speaker 25: how how it can work or how it works. And
Speaker 25: some of even those physics you can see they are
Speaker 25: adapted to what it is that they're they're looking at.
Speaker 25: So if we take the ancient aliens, you know, theory
Speaker 25: for a minute, and a lot of what.
Speaker 6: They say, they you know, they what do they say?
Speaker 25: Well, the people of the time use the language they
Speaker 25: had to describe what they saw, so it was dragons
Speaker 25: and birds and firebirds and this net. So similarly, he
Speaker 25: is using the science that he has the language for
Speaker 25: to explain it and then go on and tweak that
Speaker 25: science to say and this is how it works. So
Speaker 25: one of the aspects of it is that the craft's
Speaker 25: operation and navigation relies upon an interface with consciousness, and
Speaker 25: generally consciousness is a tuner and we are tuned, you know.
Speaker 6: Not only to the craft, to one another, to the universe.
Speaker 6: And it goes on and on. And he's explaining this
Speaker 6: to whoever the.
Speaker 25: Intended audience of this is, because again these were private
Speaker 25: notes he had him in a briefcase probably for forty years.
Speaker 25: He references other previous papers that he had submitted to
Speaker 25: the Russian Duma, which is their parliament.
Speaker 6: So whoever the.
Speaker 25: Audience is, then it's obvious that audience has access to
Speaker 25: these other levels of government documents but one of the
Speaker 25: amazing things was he talked specifically about twenty twenty four,
Speaker 25: and he goes a little bit beforehand and says, you know,
Speaker 25: in twenty twenty we begin this process which I'll try
Speaker 25: to simply describe as a.
Speaker 6: Cosmic DNA download.
Speaker 25: And in twenty twenty four, that is when all the
Speaker 25: conditions are prime for a bifurcation in society where we
Speaker 25: have a transition of the polarity of humans between the
Speaker 25: logical and the spiritual. And he specifically says half of
Speaker 25: society will experience sperience this right away in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 25: and then the rest goes, and then it extrapolates out
Speaker 25: words on.
Speaker 3: I just want to say to this.
Speaker 5: If you want to look around right contacting the desert,
Speaker 5: I was just there. They said, wow, this year, it's
Speaker 5: the biggest turnout we've ever had this year in Exeter.
Speaker 3: This is the biggest turnout they've ever had.
Speaker 6: Why is that happening? It's by desire, it is it
Speaker 6: is in the blueprint.
Speaker 25: So when we talk about all the area, all the
Speaker 25: things with when it comes to big D disclosure, that's actually.
Speaker 6: That's actually a good phrase, Big D disclosure. You know,
Speaker 6: when it comes to.
Speaker 19: That, that is the beginning again of what is part
Speaker 19: of human evolution. And even when we experience that, it
Speaker 19: is still going to be generations upon generations before we
Speaker 19: are actually advanced to what we would imagine a super
Speaker 19: advanced space, you know, being part of the cosmic community.
Speaker 19: So it's not like, you know, whenever it happens, it's
Speaker 19: not like five years later we're going to get there.
Speaker 19: It's going to be like twenty six thousand years later
Speaker 19: that we are still doing that. It's the seed being
Speaker 19: planted exactly exactly, but it is again it's laid out
Speaker 19: in such a way and there is absolutely nothing and
Speaker 19: no issue that I have confronted this with that can't be.
Speaker 19: It's extrapolated and explained.
Speaker 5: And you guys talk about in the in the in
Speaker 5: the book and your speaking engagements, you talk about how
Speaker 5: time is not a streetline.
Speaker 7: What is time?
Speaker 3: How do we experience time? So what is the relationship
Speaker 3: between now? And I'll just keep like a girl or
Speaker 3: a quop in otober that right, And I are actually
Speaker 3: remembered about that a couple of days ago.
Speaker 15: So my dad, he wasn't very religious, but what he
Speaker 15: used to say was the time is God or God
Speaker 15: is the time.
Speaker 3: And then like you just go again and you find
Speaker 3: out what you say is gone is time? Yes, those times.
Speaker 25: And so what I've learned out of these is, you know,
Speaker 25: this idea, which I think you know is an unusual.
Speaker 6: Time linear time as we measure it and as we.
Speaker 3: Experience it is a human construct.
Speaker 6: That's how we have survived. It was a survival instinct.
Speaker 6: When it comes to universal time, it is more it
Speaker 6: is more secular, and it is.
Speaker 25: More overlapping that all things only happen in the present.
Speaker 25: So there is no past, there is no future. There
Speaker 25: is only the present, and the present is secular, and
Speaker 25: consciousness is the tuner, and each one of us has
Speaker 25: a different consciousness or has a different tuner.
Speaker 6: And so like I like the phrase I say, time
Speaker 6: is you know Tyler, you.
Speaker 19: Know one oh five point seven, I'm at Gene one
Speaker 19: o point point seven to one.
Speaker 25: She's you know now one o four nine three.
Speaker 6: But we're kind of in the same thing and can hear.
Speaker 6: And that's you know, all of these phenomenal people.
Speaker 25: You know, Oh, I feel like I've known you forever
Speaker 25: or I loved you in a past life, or you know,
Speaker 25: I don't know why I don't like this person.
Speaker 6: I just don't like this person.
Speaker 25: It's about frequencies and resonance, and that is what time
Speaker 25: revolves around.
Speaker 3: Agree to the sentiment now. I wanted to because we
Speaker 3: are We did push time a little. I wanted to
Speaker 3: do There is no time.
Speaker 31: I just got through telling you that I was. Did
Speaker 31: you not just listen to what I said? This has
Speaker 31: been This has been my experience in this whole community.
Speaker 31: What do we want disclosure? When do we want it now?
Speaker 6: How do we want it? Wanted in a classified setting
Speaker 6: that comes.
Speaker 3: Up specifically from this events anywhere else we don't want.
Speaker 6: To hear it.
Speaker 5: There's as if anyone has any questions or wants to talk.
Speaker 3: About their stings, place to talk in and I think
Speaker 3: we are.
Speaker 28: So if anyone wants to ask the question to them
Speaker 28: to the experience, that's questions.
Speaker 7: So all right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was wondering, uh that you talked about.
Speaker 3: We talked about the metaphor for a lot of keys,
Speaker 3: for a lot of dwards. What are what about the
Speaker 3: scenario of different there are different aliens. What about different aliens.
Speaker 32: Siding with different factions governments like bad aliens front with
Speaker 32: the Rand Good and Aliens front of the United States,
Speaker 32: and dancing technology quality, uh wars this planet?
Speaker 3: Is that something to worry about?
Speaker 6: Maybe?
Speaker 3: I think a lot of these kinds of.
Speaker 26: Theories and speculations are the results of the truth of
Speaker 26: Barber itself. So for eighty years of government, there's nothing
Speaker 26: you can require you concern and that just opens the
Speaker 26: door for any any possible speculation.
Speaker 33: You want, which is tree simple and so absent a
Speaker 33: fundam of new process, we're going to have a lot
Speaker 33: of breakouts to get their areas. Until we get disclosure,
Speaker 33: we're not going to be able to get to the
Speaker 33: bottom of any of that. But one of the advantages
Speaker 33: in the post disclosure world is we will start taking.
Speaker 7: Out okay, and that didn't happen, that didn't happen, this
Speaker 7: is true, that didn't happen.
Speaker 33: We developed across of truth or consensus, and that's another
Speaker 33: reason for disclosure. So I can't address those speculations because
Speaker 33: it's not possible to really sort them out.
Speaker 3: But without disclosure, it's not going to So that's the
Speaker 3: best I can add to this. Davis just stay in Congress.
Speaker 3: Species was that DAAs in Congress spoke of five different
Speaker 3: alien civilizations. Now, what's that that's happening now?
Speaker 5: I mean, we are so blessed in this community with
Speaker 5: you know, instant news stories. Any one of these singular
Speaker 5: hearings would have been the biggest topic in the UFO
Speaker 5: community twenty five years ago, right, just one hearing, just
Speaker 5: one member of Congress speaking truthfully and olderly about it.
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of like the.
Speaker 10: Okay, I've been watching forever.
Speaker 3: Okay, come.
Speaker 7: Going to go.
Speaker 10: I can want to topic disclosure m hm. And I
Speaker 10: see so many things that talking about.
Speaker 18: Yes, so.
Speaker 10: Right, I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: You know, I understand and and and the thing about it,
Speaker 6: and I say it so many times.
Speaker 25: And you know, for as excited as I am about
Speaker 25: this body of work, you know, I think it's important
Speaker 25: to say, you know, this is you know, this is.
Speaker 6: About this one craft and how it operates.
Speaker 34: But it seems consistent across all of the types that
Speaker 34: are recorded and you know and whatnot.
Speaker 25: But I think the idea and what.
Speaker 35: You're you know, what you're looking for out of this
Speaker 35: is that this is what this attunement is, and this
Speaker 35: is it's why you're here today.
Speaker 25: You know, you can you can listen to Joel Olstein,
Speaker 25: you can listen to Doctor Philly, you can listen to Bashar.
Speaker 25: You know, right, it's all the same kind of messaging
Speaker 25: trap that we we we feel it, we are drawn
Speaker 25: to it. And you know, I go back to the
Speaker 25: blueprint myself or my father in law's blueprint which we
Speaker 25: published and translated.
Speaker 6: To sense check all of these things.
Speaker 14: And so when I hear the same things, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 14: you're right, but you're right for the wrong reasons, you know,
Speaker 14: And there is there is science behind this, and it's
Speaker 14: you know, this.
Speaker 6: Is the challenge is getting it out. You know, we
Speaker 6: talked about we talked about it earlier.
Speaker 25: When confronted with this, particularly like the US government, they
Speaker 25: can't do anything with it because there's some political implications.
Speaker 6: This is stuff that's come out of Russia.
Speaker 25: They don't know if this had been previously classified in
Speaker 25: some capacity. You know, I will tell you David Grush
Speaker 25: has this body of work, you know, when he's in
Speaker 25: Burleson's office, Nancy Mace, I sent her a coffee, but
Speaker 25: I know Robert Bastings gave it to David Crush. So
Speaker 25: it's there, and you know, whether they're going to use
Speaker 25: it to ask the right questions.
Speaker 6: Is the question.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you something.
Speaker 5: So Bryce Stable, many of you might know him, he
Speaker 5: cos podcast Need to Know with Ross Goldberg after he
Speaker 5: released his series Dark Skies.
Speaker 3: He was a spoop government agent.
Speaker 5: Showed up to the partner like the launch partner and
Speaker 5: handed him a napkin or a banker and on that
Speaker 5: bank order had some weird symbols and then at the
Speaker 5: bottom it said Sam, why frequency the keys to the universe?
Speaker 3: And he just he said, walk away the bole. It
Speaker 3: will make sense in twenty five years.
Speaker 25: And incidentally, I've had my visit from the FBI to
Speaker 25: my house already a couple of weekends ago.
Speaker 6: So I know, so I know, so I know I've
Speaker 6: got something.
Speaker 7: Trying to.
Speaker 36: Say anything and like now something's going and taking those
Speaker 36: pieces of messing them up that you're listen and so
Speaker 36: you're data is and I'm not.
Speaker 10: It's kind of like I know, dated in all the time, nothing.
Speaker 36: Anything, so like please please liken't know.
Speaker 37: Yeah, I mean, you know, all I can say is,
Speaker 37: you know, just go with the feel and do what
Speaker 37: feels right again, you know, don't question it.
Speaker 6: And and because it's probably there for you to do
Speaker 6: for you to understand, and.
Speaker 3: We just we only have a couple of minutes. I'll
Speaker 3: make sure they're safe.
Speaker 7: H they do.
Speaker 3: That's hard, it's so much more.
Speaker 27: I A.
Speaker 3: I just have Abby in the city. So I was
Speaker 3: just ans released the episode yet because but obviously the
Speaker 3: news is a lot right now. I said to me
Speaker 3: on the podcast that there is a chance that is
Speaker 3: think that.
Speaker 6: It's per.
Speaker 3: It's something else, because it's the episodes it's coming up.
Speaker 25: And I'll just add from our research, based upon again
Speaker 25: the science that we have available to us and comparing
Speaker 25: the science that's there, that it is more likely has
Speaker 25: natural components to it. So that key techno signature, let's
Speaker 25: say that at least from the craft I have described
Speaker 25: you know, or we have described in the blueprint, does
Speaker 25: not align.
Speaker 6: So it seems to that. So I think we're just
Speaker 6: about time or a moment.
Speaker 38: My question about what do you think is the source
Speaker 38: of the do you think that you work on them
Speaker 38: access because it's part of an intelligence.
Speaker 39: So all all of the language, as I said, is
Speaker 39: consistent with observation and direct hands on we have had.
Speaker 39: I I had done an analysis trying to identify potentially
Speaker 39: you know, where it came from, and coincidentally, somebody who
Speaker 39: had bought the book for research purpose reached out to
Speaker 39: me and it reached the.
Speaker 34: Same conclusion that it seemed to be all by all
Speaker 34: the descriptions, it's consistent with what's called cabusta yaar in Russia.
Speaker 25: And there was actually a History Channel case about it,
Speaker 25: and we actually talked about.
Speaker 3: Last week because I got in touch with his girlfriends. Right,
Speaker 3: So that's something that I think my.
Speaker 40: Mom never mentioned, but his girlfriend knew the last one,
Speaker 40: so she mentioned that they actually my father and my
Speaker 40: mother they used to in the so called Praisers region, right,
Speaker 40: So because of Stan so he's considered to.
Speaker 3: Be like a similar area to Area fifty one here
Speaker 3: in the US. So, yeah, So the Soviet Union fell
Speaker 3: during this time, so he kept the file because he
Speaker 3: didn't want it to get into the hands of anyone else.
Speaker 3: So he was doing his patreon of duty by keeping
Speaker 3: it because the Soviet Union. He was waiting for it
Speaker 3: to come back so he could resume, but it never did.
Speaker 7: That time, my time.
Speaker 25: On the website, our website Engineering and Pipingbook dot com, Yes,
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