GOVERNMENT UFO DROP #4: The Pantex Nuclear Attack & Military Sensor Footage| Total Disclosure
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Speaker 1: Step.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, everybody, welcome back to Total Disclosure live
Speaker 2: across the globe. The lines are going to be open tonight.
Speaker 2: Uh And if you're watching this right now, I need
Speaker 2: you to pause or whatever else you're doing, you know,
Speaker 2: mute the other tabs and pay very close attention.
Speaker 3: Listen. I don't often say things like.
Speaker 2: The the conversation or the lexicon, or that I think
Speaker 2: anything actually is needle changing unless I feel different about it,
Speaker 2: and I actually feel that way, And without trying to
Speaker 2: sell anything, I'm starting to feel that we are in
Speaker 2: some sort of shifting paradigm. And it's not because they're
Speaker 2: just releasing UFO files. It's the way that it feels
Speaker 2: that disclosure has become a word that is being almost
Speaker 2: pushed into the public zeitgeist. You know, for eighty years,
Speaker 2: the global narratives surrounding unidentified anomalst phenomena have been treated,
Speaker 2: you know, relatively like a joke. So and when we
Speaker 2: were told it was swamp gas or a weather balloon
Speaker 2: or just you know, overactive imaginations of people staring too
Speaker 2: long into the night sky, you know, we were pushed
Speaker 2: to the fringes as as a community. But as of
Speaker 2: two days ago. Under the direct you know, mandate of
Speaker 2: the Pursue Initiative, the US government dumped its force fourth
Speaker 2: massive tranch of declassified UFO files, forty new files, nineteen
Speaker 2: raw military and intelligence videos, written logs, audio, censored data
Speaker 2: from the Pentagon, the CIA, the FBI, and the DOE.
Speaker 2: And that last one, that last one, the Department of Energy.
Speaker 2: Keep your eye on that. We have a heavy hitting
Speaker 2: panel of creators, former military and civilian contractors on the
Speaker 2: deck to help us dissect the absolute best evidence from
Speaker 2: this drop. We're digging into the twenty fifteen pantext nuclear
Speaker 2: weapons facility lockdown where two security officers actively chased a
Speaker 2: silent diamond shaped craft hovering right over our primary nuclear
Speaker 2: weapons assembly plant. We're analyzing to some of the jaw
Speaker 2: dropping footage signed debrief of a twenty eight year old,
Speaker 2: twenty eight year military aviation veteran that was a mouthful
Speaker 2: who looked up and basically steered up right in the
Speaker 2: odds and he admitted it defied any known technology that
Speaker 2: was you know, earth bound or could have been created
Speaker 2: here on Earth. So we're gonna break down all that
Speaker 2: some chillin infrared footage. I saw one bet there was
Speaker 2: like a six pointed side or so that one really
Speaker 2: interested me where it's like a perfect six pointed geometric star.
Speaker 2: And this was tracked by military platforms, And I think
Speaker 2: this is becoming and why I think it's more important
Speaker 2: now than ever for people to pay attention is because
Speaker 2: the government is no longer denying the phenomena. They're kind
Speaker 2: of attempting to manage your awareness of it. They're dropping
Speaker 2: it in these rolling stages, and they're forcing us to
Speaker 2: try to drink from a fire hose of disclosure. And
Speaker 2: in a world of the twenty four hour news cycle,
Speaker 2: it seems a little pointed that maybe they're expecting this
Speaker 2: to just come and go. So with that being said,
Speaker 2: let's enter the panel of amazing, amazing people.
Speaker 3: Welcome, salute. I think you guys saying Italian?
Speaker 4: Right, yeah?
Speaker 3: Which one is that? I think?
Speaker 4: Okay, just the nuance of it. You know, you said
Speaker 4: it like a madagon?
Speaker 3: What what's Amergon?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 4: It's Uhalian Italian slang for an American. How they used
Speaker 4: to say it with the accent like oh the guys
Speaker 4: Medica and Medigan.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, gotcha, I thought you were calling me some
Speaker 2: like slang like bitch word like never. Ah, well, Geene,
Speaker 2: Mike veto everyone, thank you for being here.
Speaker 3: What do you guys? I didn't really get a chance to.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I was gonna have Gene in person, having a little trouble.
Speaker 3: But we're going to do this. We're gonna call in.
Speaker 3: Lines are open.
Speaker 2: I linked the entrance in so anyone can just jump
Speaker 2: in give your.
Speaker 3: Thoughts before we start. What did you guys think of this?
Speaker 2: Uh, this fourth tranche of files? Do you think that
Speaker 2: we are actively moving any needles? It seems like a question.
Speaker 2: We've exhausted and you know, talked about ad nauseum, but
Speaker 2: do you feel a shift in the paradigm? Gene, No, No,
Speaker 2: just bluntly no.
Speaker 3: What do you think is happening? And why why roll
Speaker 3: this out like this?
Speaker 4: So listen, what you know? This is? This is part
Speaker 4: of there's there's an entire structure at work underneath all
Speaker 4: of this, right that has nothing to do with anything
Speaker 4: that's being released or going to be released. As far
Speaker 4: as these pursued documents, these are know the vast majority
Speaker 4: of the fire when we're available already on the National
Speaker 4: Archives sites, right, we're getting you know, the pantext thing
Speaker 4: was legitimately knew insomuch as it was and expanded upon
Speaker 4: what was in I think Tronch two, which was just
Speaker 4: kind of the cover sheet. So that was good. And
Speaker 4: so much as the descriptions the it's much more recent.
Speaker 4: It you know, continues demonstrating the interest of whatever these
Speaker 4: objects are in our nuclear facilities. So that was good.
Speaker 4: The one video I was genuinely awed by was the
Speaker 4: flying pig video, I guess is sort of what everybody's called.
Speaker 5: It, the card shape thing. I thought it was the
Speaker 5: one that just it does.
Speaker 4: Some weird Yeah that I mean that that. Yeah, that
Speaker 4: one's good too. It's kind of the black shadow with
Speaker 4: the red dot and you know dot could be some
Speaker 4: kind of uh signal from you know, them trying to
Speaker 4: put some targeting or measurement or something like that.
Speaker 5: It kind of look like think of that. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 5: somebody was interesting. But what's crazy is we've been seeing
Speaker 5: all except for that one that does that. A lot
Speaker 5: of these we've been seeing, like I've seen that odd
Speaker 5: shaped pick shape thing before, Like I've seen that before. Yeah,
Speaker 5: out of these things, which.
Speaker 4: Is much much better, much better quality, you know, as
Speaker 4: far as those those images go. Right, So all that
Speaker 4: being said, you know, how do I how do I
Speaker 4: you know, stick with my my no assessment. Well again no, no,
Speaker 4: no analysis of what any of this stuff is and
Speaker 4: and what's been analyzed so far. There the discussions, you know,
Speaker 4: the how put off a vy Lobe Jordan Flowers, these
Speaker 4: these diversions and narrative reframing of well we're gonna you know,
Speaker 4: we need better data, we need to be forward looking,
Speaker 4: the doctor phil aspect of it. All of those things
Speaker 4: plus the idea this is Release four was the longest
Speaker 4: interval between releases and had the fewest number of files
Speaker 4: actually released, so it was the small it took them
Speaker 4: the longest amount of time to get out the smallest
Speaker 4: amount of materials, and out of those materials, you know,
Speaker 4: I'd say, there's there's three things that are better than
Speaker 4: what better than what we've seen, but still don't do
Speaker 4: anything to move the needle. And around this we have
Speaker 4: this whole new narrative being being form that again it's
Speaker 4: I don't think it's so much as to convince the
Speaker 4: existing community as to provide a framework for the general
Speaker 4: public just getting introduced to this. But the frameworks that
Speaker 4: they are are going with, I think we should all
Speaker 4: be very concerned about for a number.
Speaker 2: Of reasons, and that that was a point I wanted
Speaker 2: to get through. Is again is first off, why now?
Speaker 3: Why this way? And you know several other questions that
Speaker 3: are derivative of those two. But you know, why what
Speaker 3: are we not seeing?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: What are what are?
Speaker 1: What are?
Speaker 3: What am I missing here?
Speaker 2: If they're being so open about it again, it starts
Speaker 2: to make me think, have they just kind of gone,
Speaker 2: you know what?
Speaker 3: Fuck it? They already they already most people out there
Speaker 3: believe that the cosmos are not empty?
Speaker 2: Right, most people if you ask them now, like if
Speaker 2: you took a survey of one hundred people and said,
Speaker 2: are we alone in the universe? Ninety nine probably would say,
Speaker 2: you know, statistically, even just statistically, it's not probably not
Speaker 2: even possible, let alone probable. You might get the one
Speaker 2: odd religious zello in there. But whereas you know, seventy
Speaker 2: five years ago you asked that question, it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 4: So you know, I now, so I'll answer you you
Speaker 4: know why now? Because now is an inflection point where
Speaker 4: the administration is trying to move forward a number of
Speaker 4: really big science related objectives that have to you know,
Speaker 4: do with get into the moon and and and the
Speaker 4: private space industry. So I think why now, Partly because
Speaker 4: the controlled narrative of the past has become less manageable.
Speaker 4: I think the central figures that we see in this
Speaker 4: have all positioned themselves to benefit from disclosure. So there's
Speaker 4: a there's a degree of at of personal interest in
Speaker 4: which you know, your day, you're Jay Stratton's your how
Speaker 4: put offs. All of those guys have financial interests in
Speaker 4: companies that are at the next layer of what's going on,
Speaker 4: which is the which is the integration layer. So they're
Speaker 4: advocating for these things to come out because they want
Speaker 4: to open up the technology for for integration. The government
Speaker 4: somewhat needs to do it because when they start doing
Speaker 4: a lot of the stuff that they want to do
Speaker 4: with the Moon and and you know Mars and and
Speaker 4: elong Musks projects and and and all of that, they've
Speaker 4: got a big science gap to suddenly fill. And I
Speaker 4: think we're going to see this is partly you know,
Speaker 4: geared toward filling that filling those those knowledge gaps, right
Speaker 4: and and just from a political standpoint, listen, nobody can
Speaker 4: argue with transparency. It's a bipartisan issue. But there's a
Speaker 4: lot more up underneath the underneath the saying oh yeah,
Speaker 4: but get on the real quick Dan from probe, get
Speaker 4: on the uh acts and stream there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, come over, come over to YouTube, and then
Speaker 2: there's UH actually on on X. I also linked it
Speaker 2: in the That's stupid real I made.
Speaker 3: That took me thirty seconds to do.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of So, you know, I just
Speaker 4: I think this is motivated by by by geopolitics, This
Speaker 4: is motivated by economic incentives, where.
Speaker 5: I like where you're going with that gene, and I'll
Speaker 5: give the reason. They just you know, Trump, Trump can't
Speaker 5: help himself, right, Trump gets he sees something, he has
Speaker 5: to blurt it out, like like like somebody with turets.
Speaker 5: He just can't is you know what I mean? Red labels?
Speaker 5: He just can't help himself. He blurted out the med
Speaker 5: bed thing a few months back and then immediately deleted it,
Speaker 5: and everyone's like, what the fuck is a medbed, buddy?
Speaker 5: And now you're hearing all these weird rumors about these things.
Speaker 5: So I think maybe it could be a technology thing.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's at the point where like technology is ready
Speaker 5: to explode past what we have to wear all kinds
Speaker 5: of shit, anti gravitic med bed stuff. It could be that,
Speaker 5: it could be it could be a new number of
Speaker 5: things that could be. We're in trouble and they have
Speaker 5: no choice but to release it.
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 5: And the reason I say that part is they just
Speaker 5: dropped doctor phil like like literally, what's next Oprah next
Speaker 5: week to talk about UFOs, Like this guy's never said
Speaker 5: shit about aliens And now all of a sudden.
Speaker 4: Well and this is all this is all gets into
Speaker 4: that you know, frame in the narrative. And for the
Speaker 4: last couple of months.
Speaker 5: And I was like soft, it's like slowly breaking it in,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And over the last couple of months, I'm just
Speaker 4: starting to you know, get things up and running and
Speaker 4: publishing a lot of this. You know, the the all
Speaker 4: of the economic signals are are there in the undercurrents
Speaker 4: between China, Russia and the US, and they have been uh,
Speaker 4: you know when they've We've heard it from people about
Speaker 4: the reverse engineering race and the silent Cold War and
Speaker 4: all this and that and and the geopolitics of this
Speaker 4: are all about obtaining the materials that are needed to
Speaker 4: do a lot of these really to integrate, Yeah, to
Speaker 4: integrate all these projects. And so you know, these guys
Speaker 4: who are all involved in this again, all all of
Speaker 4: these advocates that are running around in these organizations, they
Speaker 4: each have financial interests in companies that right now are
Speaker 4: really worth no more than the paper that the company
Speaker 4: is written on. But because of the access and the knowledge,
Speaker 4: they are positioned to be able to leverage this as
Speaker 4: soon as they have knowledge that it's going to you know,
Speaker 4: it's going to go forward, and you know it might
Speaker 4: be a couple of weeks lead. So there's you know,
Speaker 4: there's I'm gonna publish. There's about sixteen indicators that we're
Speaker 4: going to be looking for that I think when we
Speaker 4: see these indicators coming within probably three months, is when
Speaker 4: we're gonna get me announcements.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I think, I think I think the I
Speaker 5: think the tube is bursting. I think they have no
Speaker 5: choice but to release something. And that's why we're getting
Speaker 5: doctor Phil. It's really strange that that guy is now
Speaker 5: sudden being brought up and he's like, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, he's doctor Philly's.
Speaker 4: Well, we're getting doctor Phil because breaking.
Speaker 5: It, breaking it to us gently, Like that's what I'm thinking, dude,
Speaker 5: it's it's.
Speaker 4: Not just breaking it to it. Listen, you know I
Speaker 4: wrote it somewhere. Doctor. You know, doctor Phil knows as
Speaker 4: much about UAPs as I know about Turnip farming in Texas, right, right.
Speaker 5: But but he's but he's the voice, he's the face, good.
Speaker 4: Old boy analogies, right, but right exactly, he's you know,
Speaker 4: he hasn't.
Speaker 5: All Look, aliens, aren't that bad? They're drying with my
Speaker 5: leg Like, Yeah, he's incredible.
Speaker 4: He's a credible figure. You know, his his indignation of
Speaker 4: the government's line to us for you know, seventy seven years,
Speaker 4: that's all. You know, it's all on brand, right and
Speaker 4: where have you been, buddy? Yeah, it's all on brand
Speaker 4: and and and and consistent. Hold on, hold on?
Speaker 2: Oh you know, let me logically ask this in a
Speaker 2: world world, in a world where.
Speaker 3: Doctor Phil and.
Speaker 2: Neil deGrasse, Tyson ave Lobe right, being the piece of
Speaker 2: ship that he is. But Michael Shermer, all these guys,
Speaker 2: even Michael Shermer, you know, he debated Jesse Michael's on
Speaker 2: American alchemy. And I don't even know if i'd call
Speaker 2: it a debate so to say. But you know, Jesse
Speaker 2: likes to put himself in these situations where whatever I
Speaker 2: didn't watch it, I won't go there, but he he did.
Speaker 2: I will say he pressed Michael and some of the
Speaker 2: those places where I was actually pretty happy, and Michael
Speaker 2: even admitted to him, He's like, all right, you got
Speaker 2: me there, Like it's pretty his misconception, like like talking
Speaker 2: about dark matter specifically, specifically dark matter is like we
Speaker 2: look at dark matter, or physicists and people look at
Speaker 2: dark matter, right, and that they're they're saying, we have
Speaker 2: no idea what it is, but they're labeling it as
Speaker 2: dark matter, something that like matter is something we absolutely
Speaker 2: know what it is, and saying calling it dark matter
Speaker 2: is like, you know, assuming so much shit just because
Speaker 2: we think ninety percent of the galaxy or the cosmos
Speaker 2: is being held together by this other shit.
Speaker 3: We're calling it dark matter, but we don't know what
Speaker 3: the fuck it is.
Speaker 2: So he brings that up, and it's like the same
Speaker 2: thing with you know, UFOs to some degree when you
Speaker 2: even thinking about it, just a on a principle, right
Speaker 2: his mind, your mind does this thing where it lends
Speaker 2: credence to one versus the other when no one is
Speaker 2: actually saying unidentified flying objects. We know that they exist, right,
Speaker 2: we know that they exist. There's there's uncategorical evidence for it.
Speaker 2: Elizondo's now saying there's shit on the moon like every day.
Speaker 5: But yeah, we did, we just had. We just had
Speaker 5: three massive drops about it like that. There's no there's
Speaker 5: no denying it now. And Grush just stood on the
Speaker 5: step and said, the universe is teeming with life. That
Speaker 5: is fucking huge, right huge.
Speaker 2: Fox News is becoming ever more like coast to coast, Right,
Speaker 2: it feels like I'm watching our news Nation or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I just I'm looking around and I'm going, Okay,
Speaker 2: whether we like it or not, this thing is shifting.
Speaker 2: And I know Gene doesn't think so I see a shift.
Speaker 4: Well, and I think again, I think we've got to
Speaker 4: be very cautious between getting excited about things that are
Speaker 4: said and what's actually happening and what the actual what
Speaker 4: the actual movements are. And this seems to be again
Speaker 4: it fits a pattern that where where the institution is
Speaker 4: failing and the institution is not delivering, then new outrageous
Speaker 4: claims occupy the air space that prevent us from focusing
Speaker 4: on the institutional failures and and keeps keeps the discussion
Speaker 4: from uh being around what's not happening uh and and
Speaker 4: and again these things are you know, strategically timed. Again,
Speaker 4: the Loue Elizondo you know discussion was not for us,
Speaker 4: it was for Japan. So again he's trying to and
Speaker 4: though even though they know, did you guys watch, we're
Speaker 4: all going to listen to it and we're going to
Speaker 4: dissect it. They're they're they're tackling a new market. So
Speaker 4: he's going to give that new market, you know, some
Speaker 4: exclusives and something to you know, to to rally the
Speaker 4: rally the crowd, and you know, expand the expand the
Speaker 4: narrative there and this is what I say, the whole,
Speaker 4: the whole super structure above that of the doctor Phils
Speaker 4: and Ivy Lobes and and and the rest of them,
Speaker 4: that narrative is forming very differently. And that narrative is
Speaker 4: you know, and it's funny because I don't know, you know,
Speaker 4: I know I've said it on here that you know, oh,
Speaker 4: disclosure coming will be the worst thing in the world
Speaker 4: to you know, Jeremy Corbel's and that if you know,
Speaker 4: the White House, as this moves forward, you're going to
Speaker 4: see the people who are the you know, the experts
Speaker 4: and the legacy and and you know, the voices of
Speaker 4: the community are going to drop off. I think the
Speaker 4: greatest example of that's Stephen Greer. He's totally been sidelined, yeah, already, And.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised he isn't making more of a more of
Speaker 2: a bee line to position himself back because that's strange.
Speaker 5: Nobody's letting him in. I don't think that's.
Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna let him in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, year, and I briefed the president back in eighty nine,
Speaker 5: like people's but.
Speaker 3: Do you understand that for a very long time, doctor Greer,
Speaker 3: whether you hated him or loved him, was one of,
Speaker 3: if not the top person in the field.
Speaker 5: So that's all we had. Unfortunately we didn't know he
Speaker 5: was full of shit the truth.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, of course, but you see the so Jen's
Speaker 2: actually vindicated in just this this example, right, this example
Speaker 2: extrapolated out look at that the grifters are going to
Speaker 2: get shaken loose with the truth because the truth is
Speaker 2: inherently exclusive.
Speaker 3: Right, there's a it's not inclusive. It's not it's not
Speaker 3: something that's like a little bit of this, a little
Speaker 3: bit of that, right. It's a truth period when if.
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, and I can, I can write
Speaker 4: it all up and I can show you you know,
Speaker 4: and and and give it to you. But everything I've
Speaker 4: talked about over the last you know, year and year
Speaker 4: and one month exactly that i've been you know, involved
Speaker 4: in this, and when i started looking at the structures
Speaker 4: and the architecture of all this and how it's operating,
Speaker 4: I've been. I've been right about everything I've said in
Speaker 4: the directions that it'll go right. I talked about that
Speaker 4: controlled disclosure had reached capacity, that we were moving to uh,
Speaker 4: transition by design, That transition by design would you know,
Speaker 4: we would know we were there when we started seeing
Speaker 4: you know, our own institutions integrating the issue into it.
Speaker 4: We're seeing that the next big sign of transition by
Speaker 4: design would be our allies beginning to mirror, and we're
Speaker 4: seeing more and more of that being the you know,
Speaker 4: the the strongest one so far, you know. So that's
Speaker 4: why I say, this isn't you know this, This isn't
Speaker 4: This isn't literally rocket science or UFO science. This is
Speaker 4: structures and architectures of how secrecy works. And you know,
Speaker 4: once you understand that, and you start breaking down the
Speaker 4: incentive structures, then you begin to see, you know, whereas
Speaker 4: this going. Now, none of it answers the fundamental question
Speaker 4: of you know, who exactly and what exactly do we have?
Speaker 4: That's all down deep, but we can definitely say they've
Speaker 4: got stuff.
Speaker 5: They know.
Speaker 4: The answers are there and and there there are paths again,
Speaker 4: other paths Congress could be taking to get there. But
Speaker 4: in the same way, Congress has been co opted by
Speaker 4: the same group, in the same circle that at UH
Speaker 4: is invested in propagating this long enough that that they
Speaker 4: get the inside track so that they're ultimately able to,
Speaker 4: you know, to benefit from it.
Speaker 3: Agreed. I absolutely, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, okay, with that being said, you know,
Speaker 2: did you have anything else to say before I.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, yeah, he was there.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm biting my tongue, but I'm life. I'm live.
Speaker 3: So that's listen.
Speaker 6: I'm live from doctor Phil's.
Speaker 7: I'm looking at the fifth drop because we get early
Speaker 7: access and it's the same pile of ship as the
Speaker 7: fourth is. Right, it's balloons, it's air clutter. I mean,
Speaker 7: that's going to kind of be my position today is
Speaker 7: like I heard something yesterday that just made me shake
Speaker 7: my head, and it was that now we are pushing
Speaker 7: the narrative that all these craft are independently made depending
Speaker 7: on their mission. You know why that was said because
Speaker 7: none of the craft match up. You know, even if
Speaker 7: you look at stuff like the Childhood case where they
Speaker 7: came down and you know remotely through their mental brains
Speaker 7: we're talking. Then you go to the one where the aerial,
Speaker 7: then you go to Rendal Sham where you have radiation,
Speaker 7: and you go to the nimets where none of those
Speaker 7: were there. You know, like, none of this matches up,
Speaker 7: you know, and icy work. I'll let Gene talk a
Speaker 7: little bit. You see what matches up? You start forming
Speaker 7: stuff into a circle. What's the same. And because we're
Speaker 7: just looking at every orb and every shape and all
Speaker 7: these cameras and it's all nhi, it's gotta be right.
Speaker 7: The narrative is that somehow this is proof. I mean,
Speaker 7: like you know, it's just it's kind of getting to
Speaker 7: me to the point where it's like, where's the craft
Speaker 7: and bodies? And if they don't have it, we got
Speaker 7: to really get off this whole war movement.
Speaker 5: It's just so the only the only thing that you're
Speaker 5: gonna believe is if it's extraterrestrial, is if you get
Speaker 5: a body, that's what you're that's the only thing that
Speaker 5: you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Well, here's I'm here elusive.
Speaker 7: If you take a craft that has the observer rules, right,
Speaker 7: we'll say instantaneous acceleration, these sort of things, guess what
Speaker 7: you can do. You can find that data link. And
Speaker 7: what I'm telling you, guys is is the data link
Speaker 7: for those craft has never came back to anything other
Speaker 7: than human technology. So again, a craft. What about these
Speaker 7: you know, orbs that we're seeing? What about all this stuff?
Speaker 7: You know, We're gonna get into it a little bit
Speaker 7: today as we move on like we probably should here,
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna go through some of these cases and
Speaker 7: tell you what I know about them. And guess what,
Speaker 7: it's sure the hell they nhi orbs that you're seeing.
Speaker 7: So that's why I kind of just bit my tongue
Speaker 7: till we get going on the videos.
Speaker 4: Yea, and yeah, and and I'll agree, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: I think again, and I know I've said it myself,
Speaker 4: you know, in talking about the different uh you know,
Speaker 4: the different shape sizes, and and and all of that.
Speaker 4: I think there's you know, again, definitely the the you know,
Speaker 4: the logic extreme that you to be able to say,
Speaker 4: all right, you know something is going to be fit
Speaker 4: for purpose, and you know, whatever the purpose of that
Speaker 4: object is, you know, would undoubtedly have a you know,
Speaker 4: have a different shape or size or or or what
Speaker 4: have you. Again, doesn't mean any of it is nhi.
Speaker 4: And you know, Mike and I have you know, spent
Speaker 4: many hours having these discussions about that, you know, the
Speaker 4: idea that I think there I agree the vast majority
Speaker 4: of what we're seeing is probably Broseic, probably belongs to
Speaker 4: a nation, you know. I think there's certainly, you know,
Speaker 4: if not unexplained things, unexplained origins out of those, you know,
Speaker 4: I still hold to again the the the origins ultimately
Speaker 4: still being sort of beyond uh beyond Earth at some point,
Speaker 4: but not everything that we're seeing now fair.
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I actually did want to, I am.
Speaker 2: I actually didn't watch that whole Doctor Phil video, so
Speaker 2: I think it's not like two minutes long, so I
Speaker 2: have it here before we jump into the main file set.
Speaker 3: Let's see what, uh, let's see what. Because we talked
Speaker 3: about this in the in the group chat.
Speaker 2: But like I feel like a lot of people forgot that,
Speaker 2: like doctor Phil is like an OPRAH spin off, and
Speaker 2: like I don't even think.
Speaker 3: He's is he a real doctor?
Speaker 4: Isn't it like kind of like he was, Yeah, he
Speaker 4: was not practicing anymore.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, isn't it kind of like a
Speaker 3: Bill Nye situation?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 3: Right exactly?
Speaker 5: And it was like it was like a fucking springer
Speaker 5: for Christ's sake, catch me outside, how about that? Like
Speaker 5: come on, yeh, we're talking about rut it bringing out
Speaker 5: and so I'm like, there's gotta be some weird going on.
Speaker 7: I will just say this, there are degrees you can
Speaker 7: get in ufology as long as you won't pay enough money.
Speaker 6: I mean, like does that make it any better?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: I mean like there's no you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, like.
Speaker 7: I'm not bothered about the fact that he's not a
Speaker 7: practice and you know, doctor a psychologist. It's just the
Speaker 7: idea of like what he is practicing his entertainment, right,
Speaker 7: And here we go and they.
Speaker 5: Wheel him out there, so we're just gonna buy a
Speaker 5: hook line and singer and they're just like okay, and
Speaker 5: now I believe this idiot.
Speaker 7: And it does kind of look like they polished him
Speaker 7: up and maybe he got his wax figure ready he's
Speaker 7: looking on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he looked extra smooth. Well, I'm doctor. Maybe he's
Speaker 5: an alien.
Speaker 3: Oh that was a good one, man, hard all right?
Speaker 8: Who?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: Can you can you hear it? Just let me know,
Speaker 3: just give me a thumbs up if you can hear it?
Speaker 6: It is I did.
Speaker 5: Nope, nope, nope, yeah, yeah, wait it's new. It down there.
Speaker 5: Look on the right. You see the little volume.
Speaker 3: Is it muted?
Speaker 5: Doctor Phil looked at the right corner bottom right corners
Speaker 5: the muted.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, could cats man years?
Speaker 9: Hey's doctor Phil here. I'm talking to here this morning
Speaker 9: because me and my team at Envoy Media.
Speaker 3: Can you hear it?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 10: I's by the White House and the Department of National
Speaker 10: Intelligence to the new tranche of information about UAPs you
Speaker 10: may refer to them as UFOs, and we are very
Speaker 10: deep into that.
Speaker 9: Two things have become apparent to me. Number one, I
Speaker 9: am absolutely furious that our government has been lying to
Speaker 9: us for at least seventy nine years, lying to us
Speaker 9: by omission, I think, actually creating some misdirection that's one thing.
Speaker 9: Number Two, it's very clear that there are objects in
Speaker 9: our atmosphere here on Earth that are not of Earth.
Speaker 9: They're doing things, they're moving in ways that we just
Speaker 9: simply don't have the ability to do so. To me,
Speaker 9: that's not a question that is well demonstrated. One of
Speaker 9: the things that's curious about this, and I think disturbing,
Speaker 9: is that they seem to be focusing at times around
Speaker 9: our nuclear facilities. As far back as nineteen forty nine,
Speaker 9: you actually held a conference about this hidden from us,
Speaker 9: the Los Alamos COmON.
Speaker 6: You just ed over the position of pse it's.
Speaker 9: An expert on meteorite as they were trying to say
Speaker 9: that maybe these are meteoritistic, they were very large green objects.
Speaker 9: To do that, experts said, no, these are not meteors.
Speaker 9: Meteors don't move horizontally, they don't maintain their speed, were
Speaker 9: moving with intention, they were navigating, they were moving. And
Speaker 9: these have been observed over five cities, all having a
Speaker 9: peculiar facilities. As recently as twenty fifteen. They were observed
Speaker 9: over the pan Text facility in Amarillo, which is a
Speaker 9: new clear facility that should bother you. And the same
Speaker 9: thing over talking to you about this? Why me from
Speaker 9: a life here? At some point this matters. This matters
Speaker 9: to mankind, It matters to our value systems.
Speaker 4: What does it mean?
Speaker 9: What do we say to our children? If there is
Speaker 9: life that's not human? What does it mean to all
Speaker 9: of us? We're very deep into this. I'm going to
Speaker 9: be bringing you more information throughout the day, so stay tuned.
Speaker 4: We're going to catch you up. I am.
Speaker 5: So they expected, they expected all these drops to send
Speaker 5: people to make them go crazy, and it didn't. It
Speaker 5: didn't get the reaction that they thought that it would get.
Speaker 5: So this is why he's like, this is real. The
Speaker 5: government is you know what I mean? Like they brought
Speaker 5: this guy out to basically walk the every day age
Speaker 5: better than low true. True. And I'm not saying I
Speaker 5: have a problem with it with the everyday man seeing this.
Speaker 5: I'm okay with the everyday person waking up and going, fuck,
Speaker 5: we're not alone. This is legit.
Speaker 4: But he.
Speaker 2: Him, Okay, good point, Mike, Uh, fair enough. I'll give
Speaker 2: you that one. He said, what guy's watching, doctor Phil.
Speaker 2: He's got a good point. He's got a good point.
Speaker 2: But what what it really does, though, is it it
Speaker 2: does reach those mothers who in turn have children.
Speaker 3: The women of this world, you know, hated or love it.
Speaker 2: I know, like the nick went, actually I won't go there.
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't go there. Definitely shouldn't go there.
Speaker 3: Hated or hated her love it?
Speaker 6: But I switched, thank you good.
Speaker 3: No it didn't.
Speaker 5: It didn't.
Speaker 3: It went love hated or love it.
Speaker 2: Women are the they they usher in the spark of life,
Speaker 2: so and then they hold a very special place to
Speaker 2: their children. I mean, it's it's it's it's a no
Speaker 2: brainer to to to want to target that demographic with
Speaker 2: something this big because.
Speaker 4: In that audience too, of course, right, yeah, for sure, yeah,
Speaker 4: of course.
Speaker 5: And it's gonna be on the view next you'll see
Speaker 5: it's you're gonna see you're gonna see whooping and him
Speaker 5: talking about it.
Speaker 7: But it gets weird when all people become the same
Speaker 7: age as as though.
Speaker 5: You know is true we are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I do like the thought, or at least
Speaker 3: the idea.
Speaker 2: And this is something I because I've talked about it's
Speaker 2: like what the bigger ideas of disclosure might be. And
Speaker 2: I do think he raised a fair point about like
Speaker 2: what does this why should this matter? And and it
Speaker 2: should matter because if there is life outside of Earth, right,
Speaker 2: then that changes something in us where we should see
Speaker 2: ourselves in the universe, where we don't maybe feel so isolated, right,
Speaker 2: Like it's it's kind of weird because right now, you know,
Speaker 2: I look to the stars and I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: I see anything looking back. But I think once so
Speaker 2: we truly like know, right what I mean, a few
Speaker 2: of us have had sightings, like we we know what
Speaker 2: we might have saw. I was never abducted, I've never
Speaker 2: seen a being, so but once we know that something
Speaker 2: is actually looking back at us, I think that does
Speaker 2: fundament fundamentally change. Like you sit down at the table
Speaker 2: and like there's not just the sex talk anymore. Now
Speaker 2: it's the Hey, there's also fucking things that we don't
Speaker 2: we don't even understand, like that talk the phenomena but talk.
Speaker 4: But you're right, you know, and and and that's good
Speaker 4: and you know, I mean you you know, you're preaching
Speaker 4: to the choir on that one for the most part,
Speaker 4: right everybody, you know, everybody gets that. But you know,
Speaker 4: what you played was one of I think three videos
Speaker 4: that he put out, and you know, there was an
Speaker 4: interview he did on CNN. And that's where that's where
Speaker 4: I start having problems with what was said, right, because
Speaker 4: he in all in those interviews he talks about so
Speaker 4: he does all of that framing, which is great. And
Speaker 4: listen love the idea Luna posted on on Instagram. You
Speaker 4: know there's gonna be other influencers that are coming out
Speaker 4: and going to be talking about this.
Speaker 3: And is that what doctor philer?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: But the problem is the narrative, right, and when you
Speaker 4: get part when you get past the you know, bringing
Speaker 4: this all of those existential questions into view and and
Speaker 4: and how do we deal with that what they're saying
Speaker 4: and what doctor phil described was number one the credibility,
Speaker 4: primarily the credibility of the people of the you know
Speaker 4: that that that this information is coming out through right,
Speaker 4: which again is good. Right, there's a lot of military,
Speaker 4: there's government officials, highly credible people talking about this. But
Speaker 4: he prefaces that with people too drunk to you know,
Speaker 4: instead of stories from people who are too drunk to fish.
Speaker 3: Right, which is a direct shot uh, which I actually do,
Speaker 3: which is a.
Speaker 4: Direct shot at it. Everybody, you know, if we're being honest,
Speaker 4: because what is so you know, you've got him saying that,
Speaker 4: repeating that over and over. We've got a VI lobe.
Speaker 4: If you noticed in things a VI lobe is saying
Speaker 4: about the you know, science has to lead the way
Speaker 4: that you know, you can't pay attention to this online
Speaker 4: community and and and all the rest of it. Those
Speaker 4: those are the the early shots across the bow that
Speaker 4: the way they want this to go is that that
Speaker 4: it is the information that is coming out through the
Speaker 4: government and through these these figures who are former government
Speaker 4: officials and whistleblowers who we all have been critical of
Speaker 4: because of the pre approved pipeline and what I can
Speaker 4: say and what I can't say and all the rest
Speaker 4: of it. And you know, I'm telling you now listen
Speaker 4: for it and everything else that comes out. Their goal
Speaker 4: is to make what comes out from the government the
Speaker 4: source of truth. And I argued with the Joe a
Speaker 4: little bit about this over X because we're replacing one
Speaker 4: form of narrative control with another form of narrative control.
Speaker 4: Right we are. The system that we've been critical of
Speaker 4: has not changed, which is what we were looking for.
Speaker 4: The methods that they're using or changing.
Speaker 2: You're and I actually have said this on several occasions.
Speaker 2: I do think you are topped, You're you're tapped into
Speaker 2: something that is very very It's like intrinsically a conundrum. Right,
Speaker 2: we are the same entities that have been withholding that
Speaker 2: very information for ninety plus years are the worst that trust.
Speaker 2: Well not just that, but they have people stomping their
Speaker 2: feet demanding answers. And the only part, the only entities
Speaker 2: that they are willing to accept answers from are the
Speaker 2: very ones who and to see that the dragon eating
Speaker 2: its tail here, it's the dragon eating its tail all
Speaker 2: Actually it's that's right behind me.
Speaker 4: So this is what I'm saying. This is why you
Speaker 4: know again I you know, I just caution everybody to
Speaker 4: to tamper their excitement and their enthusiasm over what's happening,
Speaker 4: because next thing, you know, we're right back where we started,
Speaker 4: right and and you know, I've talked about it with
Speaker 4: the Scientific Council, you know, And whether Avy Lobe knows it,
Speaker 4: realizes it, or ever will realize it, he's a pressure
Speaker 4: relief valve. That council is a pressure relief valve that
Speaker 4: as things move forward, they the Council will give them
Speaker 4: the ability to slow the flow by just saying inconclusive data.
Speaker 4: We need to collect new data. We've got to you know, wait, right,
Speaker 4: We've just we've just got to wait. We've just got
Speaker 4: to be patient. All of all of which is true.
Speaker 3: But but here's the problem is Afi doesn't mind being
Speaker 3: that guy.
Speaker 2: He he actually wants to be that guy. And that's
Speaker 2: why they also have people like you fucking stop moving.
Speaker 6: Let me let me just jump in real fast on that.
Speaker 3: On that then, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: Jean's got a good point here. I think we're doing
Speaker 7: stuff asked backwards. We're trying to rally the troops and
Speaker 7: get as many people as we look at this without
Speaker 7: the evidence that we need. So the other way around,
Speaker 7: I mean, you can be a disgrace journalist and you
Speaker 7: can be a you know, key speaker, you can write
Speaker 7: a book, and then you can be a disgraced congressman
Speaker 7: that's got to resign before the investigation comes out so
Speaker 7: that isn't released. I mean, and then you can just
Speaker 7: be welcomed into this community as like you're a hero
Speaker 7: because you're talking about UFOs. And so we're bringing all
Speaker 7: these people in with doctor Phil, the religious sectors coming
Speaker 7: in because they know nobody in this community needs proof.
Speaker 7: They just need stories to make money. And what's everybody
Speaker 7: looking at right now? You're looking at UFOs, too big
Speaker 7: a move interdimensional portals on National Force Service land. No
Speaker 7: proof for any of this ship?
Speaker 4: How many species of air area?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're counting on one of these drops releasing the
Speaker 7: proof to all these people were bringing in. Yea, they're
Speaker 7: ain't a fucking thing coming. So we all look like idiots,
Speaker 7: and it's going to kill the movement. That's my that's
Speaker 7: my two cents.
Speaker 4: And and and the thing about it is what are
Speaker 4: we What are we not talking about?
Speaker 11: Right?
Speaker 4: So we're not talking about them, you know what they've
Speaker 4: done to strip Burleson's amendment. We're not talking about Miter
Speaker 4: whose response was due last Monday. Now they I guess
Speaker 4: they come back from you know, Burlison, didn't they find
Speaker 4: a lot to talk about while you know, while they
Speaker 4: are on breaks. That's good one, right, they didn't or
Speaker 4: some ship I don't know, but that was due on
Speaker 4: the sixth the end of June the thirtieth. There was
Speaker 4: supposed to be more Arrow. There was supposed to be
Speaker 4: a classified Arrow briefing. There's supposed to be another ARROW
Speaker 4: document that was presented. None of that stuff has come out,
Speaker 4: and nobody's asking any questions about any of that stuff
Speaker 4: because now we've got we've got the German wing to
Speaker 4: look at in dissect.
Speaker 3: So are you saying that?
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess I see where you're both going here. Again,
Speaker 2: it's the look in the left hand right, so that
Speaker 2: that doesn't you don't see what else I'm doing. But
Speaker 2: it's a lack of what we're doing over here that
Speaker 2: is actually the problem.
Speaker 7: It's a timeshare scheme everybody, right, We're pulling everybody in
Speaker 7: some great deal. You can't go without it. And now
Speaker 7: we're locking in your room until you sign the papers.
Speaker 7: We've got nothing to show you.
Speaker 3: But was this not inevitable?
Speaker 4: Was it not?
Speaker 3: Was this phase?
Speaker 2: Was it ever going to be this transition period? I
Speaker 2: feel like transitions are always tough, So was it not
Speaker 2: always going to be a bit muddy?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's I feel like it's a tug
Speaker 3: of war here.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a transition.
Speaker 7: I think it's just he gave the people with the
Speaker 7: big stories more power and a platform.
Speaker 6: Here we go, it's the next guy.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's and and again you can call it
Speaker 4: overly simplistic. But you know, sometimes the beauty is and
Speaker 4: the things that are overly simplistic. Right, what was you know,
Speaker 4: what what's an alternative disclosure path? An alternative disclosure path
Speaker 4: could have been, you know, could have started with with
Speaker 4: a statement, right, could have started with the there are
Speaker 4: things we can't explain. We have through the through the decades,
Speaker 4: there have been a number of organizations that have attempted
Speaker 4: to do it. There are organizations with in the government
Speaker 4: today whose job it is to do that. We are
Speaker 4: going through all of the documentation we have and we're
Speaker 4: going to make that documentation public through a declassification project.
Speaker 4: And you know, the reason is because there's sensitive data.
Speaker 4: There's sensitive you know about our systems and this and that.
Speaker 4: But to this point, you know, we have or we
Speaker 4: have not determined that you know, any of these things
Speaker 4: pose a direct imminent threat. We need to discern what
Speaker 4: could potentially be foreign technology from again what truly remains anomalous,
Speaker 4: and we are going to be transparent about that process
Speaker 4: and particularly about the things that we know are truly
Speaker 4: anomalous as we go through this process, and we're going
Speaker 4: to share that information going forward. And here's the time
Speaker 4: frames in which we're going to do this, and here's
Speaker 4: the committee that has been put together that you know,
Speaker 4: and who's going to lead this process to ensure that
Speaker 4: there is transparency and integrity you know as we go forward.
Speaker 2: That actually doesn't even sound bad to the ears, Like
Speaker 2: it's not like a for some reason, like you know,
Speaker 2: I think everyone thinks about this disclosure moment.
Speaker 3: Of course, it's like the.
Speaker 2: President and I feel like everyone everyone secretly sees like
Speaker 2: either JFK. Barack Obama, someone who's really like well spoken, yeah,
Speaker 2: coming up to the podium and my fellow Americans people
Speaker 2: of the world delivering a fucking power speech about how
Speaker 2: we're like in this together. It's like the Independence Day speech,
Speaker 2: but obviously not being invaded, right, But that's the we
Speaker 2: are going to We.
Speaker 4: Are going to coordinate with our allies for the information
Speaker 4: that they have.
Speaker 2: It's that pipe dream that what you just said, very total, aliens,
Speaker 2: very That's what I said, aliens. A Trump UFO disclosure
Speaker 2: speech would be the fun, the highlight of like if
Speaker 2: we really want to prove we're in assimilated reality, that
Speaker 2: has to happen.
Speaker 4: Because Dan from Probe joined us from bring them up
Speaker 4: to the stage.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, welcome Dan.
Speaker 2: A Trump disclosure would be so because you know that
Speaker 2: there would be something in there as a jab to
Speaker 2: someone or again, yeah, you know there would be some
Speaker 2: fucking dumb spin on it that you just wouldn't.
Speaker 5: They're coming down to get Michelle Obama. She's an alien,
Speaker 5: you know, it's crazy ship.
Speaker 2: There would be something in it that would just be
Speaker 2: utterly and it would just be funny. But beside the point,
Speaker 2: let me let let's this video this this, this is one.
Speaker 2: So this is the United States Department of War's website.
Speaker 2: This is where they're sharing all the tranches of files
Speaker 2: if anyone wants to. If anyone didn't know, I'd be
Speaker 2: very surprised at that. But the it's war dot gov
Speaker 2: slash UFO and then you know you can go through everything.
Speaker 2: But there's this video here. So this is the United
Speaker 2: States Indo Pacific Command. They submitted a report of unidentified
Speaker 2: and almost phenomena to the to Arrow, consisting of eighteen
Speaker 2: seconds of video footage from an infrared sensor aboard a
Speaker 2: US military platform in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Now I find that part, of course.
Speaker 2: Very interesting, because this aspect that everything's like from two
Speaker 2: thousand and four.
Speaker 4: That is not the case.
Speaker 5: It's newer stuff, right. Also we already see a ship
Speaker 5: like this another in the earlier ones. This is different, right,
Speaker 5: This is a different video.
Speaker 3: I think it is now.
Speaker 2: Maybe someone can discern that between the other guys. But
Speaker 2: real quick, I want to I want either Mike or
Speaker 2: Gene or the plebe for the normal person. What is
Speaker 2: an infrared sensor? Why does the video look like this?
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people have these kind of questions.
Speaker 2: Maybe we can have a little opportunity to answer them.
Speaker 2: Why would a military craft and not have four K
Speaker 2: fucking clear video? Why are they using infrared?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so keep in mind you let's just take flying.
Speaker 7: If you ever go up and fly a plane, you
Speaker 7: do your flight license, you start by visual, so you
Speaker 7: would follow basically a highway to the next spot. But
Speaker 7: really to get your license, they're gonna actually put basically
Speaker 7: a blind full over the top of your eyes where
Speaker 7: you can only see your instrument and you have to
Speaker 7: get instrument rating, weather fog, just getting kind of dizzy
Speaker 7: up there. Your actual instruments will tell you where you're
Speaker 7: at at In the old JFK Junior in the storm right,
Speaker 7: where's the prize, And so we have to go with
Speaker 7: sensors because sensors will give us the actual scientific the
Speaker 7: actual measurement or sheltitude lvision. So now this gets a
Speaker 7: little confusing because there's things like white hot, black hot.
Speaker 7: But what you're seeing here is essentially and there are
Speaker 7: four K type of cameras on gun cameras and different
Speaker 7: stuff by all means that we haven't seen. But what
Speaker 7: you're just seeing here is it's probably looking.
Speaker 6: Through the night.
Speaker 7: I don't know what the time is on this one,
Speaker 7: or the day or the clouds, and sometimes even in
Speaker 7: the light you can't see what's on the other side
Speaker 7: of the cloud. So this is kind of like the
Speaker 7: peeking through and seeing it. So what we're seeing is
Speaker 7: one's hot and one's not, which creates either the grayish
Speaker 7: or the dark black.
Speaker 5: It's essentially a thermal imaging camera, which is what we
Speaker 5: use in a fire service to see through smoke. So
Speaker 5: because you can't see a fucking thing struct fire, you
Speaker 5: can see it.
Speaker 2: In this In this video, black is hot or black
Speaker 2: is the the environment is white, so the environment around
Speaker 2: it is the lighter color. Yeah, just so they can
Speaker 2: switch that though, like we've seen in many videos of course.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And just real quick on this because this
Speaker 7: is kind of a misconception. It's not actually heat you're
Speaker 7: picking up as radiation, which sounds scary, but radiation is
Speaker 7: the physics of molecules moving in your body, which would
Speaker 7: create what you think is heat. So what we're actually
Speaker 7: looking at is radiation, which does make the physics part
Speaker 7: of it a little more manageable of what you're seeing
Speaker 7: and not seeing. But that may come up later in
Speaker 7: these videos where there is cheap cameras that just simply
Speaker 7: pick up heat, they're pretty shitty. You don't get a
Speaker 7: clear photo. But when you get setting more clear like this,
Speaker 7: like look the lines, that's going to be a high dollar.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I find this one, so we'll hit play. It's only
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds. You can see it's what.
Speaker 5: I so, Yeah, that's totally different than the other thing.
Speaker 5: The other thing was more, there was more uh spiky. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that good, good way of putting it, for sure. Absolutely.
Speaker 5: I wonder if they're linked in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 5: That's even still whatever, what the fuck is that? Like,
Speaker 5: we don't have anything that looks like that to my knowledge.
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 3: What is what do you think.
Speaker 2: I gotta ask why what's that black? Why why blackout
Speaker 2: whatever that is next to it? Because what what what
Speaker 2: could that politic.
Speaker 4: It might be They might be measuring it. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: the size of the object.
Speaker 5: So that's targeting radical, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was gonna ask like, could something be
Speaker 2: there that they like they were like, no, they can't
Speaker 2: see that part.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 6: Again the need for it to be blocked out.
Speaker 7: I don't think it's something to where if we had
Speaker 7: the answer, say oh got him, it's right now.
Speaker 2: So this is yeah, this is you know what I
Speaker 2: will say, whether this is like some sort of drone
Speaker 2: technology that is being deployed or like, put that aside
Speaker 2: for a second. What I do find interesting about these
Speaker 2: kind of sightings is.
Speaker 3: Like almost like the.
Speaker 2: Religion, the religious symbology, your head immediately jumps to and
Speaker 2: if this is what they are saying it is, well
Speaker 2: not even what they're saying it is, but if this
Speaker 2: was non human, if this thing is non human, and
Speaker 2: that one that Vitos talk about from the earlier file,
Speaker 2: if those are non human vehicles.
Speaker 3: It and it's weird how it sparks this like there's
Speaker 3: a cross right.
Speaker 5: There like, and we've seen it in artwork throughout religious
Speaker 5: art work, our entire all throughout the Bible's history. You
Speaker 5: see it all throughout religious paintings those.
Speaker 2: Is that not what could have been seen to to
Speaker 2: to then say look there's God. This is the symbol
Speaker 2: of God fucking cross right.
Speaker 5: Now, you're not saying, you're not saying that that's Jesus,
Speaker 5: but for sure that listen, aliens could have been mistaken
Speaker 5: as for sure as God's back.
Speaker 6: It's kind of them things.
Speaker 7: So I want to like repeat back to you guys
Speaker 7: what you just said, because that's how you tell somebody
Speaker 7: they're crazy. You guys just said somehow this is related
Speaker 7: to aliens, God across.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you what it's not.
Speaker 7: It's not five foot lizards, it's not Nordics, it's not
Speaker 7: the CIA hunting cross breeds on twenty three and meters.
Speaker 7: It's none of that bullshit. It's some fucking space junk.
Speaker 7: And it's got some floats that you can see because
Speaker 7: the cross, the cross and the X and everything else extend.
Speaker 7: This is a fucking surveillance bloon that floated in. Also,
Speaker 7: keep in mind that Arrow released this because they saw
Speaker 7: this one this is not the two or three percent
Speaker 7: erro doesn't know what they are right now, Aarrol's laughing
Speaker 7: their ass off because they got exactly what piece of
Speaker 7: styrophone whatever fuck it is that floated over and they're
Speaker 7: letting us do this ship, and they're gonna let us
Speaker 7: do this ship for a whole year.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because I thought about it the
Speaker 4: other day another show. I mean, they're, you know, three
Speaker 4: hours and you know, analyzing videos and you know, well,
Speaker 4: you know it could be this, it could be and
Speaker 4: I you know, and I just sit there thinking to myself,
Speaker 4: like people who work on these videos for countless hours
Speaker 4: don't know what it is, right, People who are trained
Speaker 4: ship experts and they have the benefit of all of
Speaker 4: the data can't exactly discern what it is. Why do
Speaker 4: we think we're going to.
Speaker 6: It's aliens?
Speaker 5: So you're just so anti alien it'sucking. Tell me what
Speaker 5: that is. That's a balloon.
Speaker 6: You can see the string coming down, Vita, your assholes.
Speaker 4: A balloon, no.
Speaker 3: Being, I actually do see the balloon.
Speaker 6: That thing with wings fla it's a it's.
Speaker 4: A bur What is it.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 5: It's a red balloon. Zoom in on it can we zoom.
Speaker 6: No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't have that movie technology where you could just
Speaker 2: box it and make it bigger zoom.
Speaker 3: The bad guys always have the ground.
Speaker 2: TV and somehow it's the no pixelation, no pixel increase
Speaker 2: or decreasing quality.
Speaker 3: I will say this one does.
Speaker 5: But what are they what are they claiming it is
Speaker 5: in the writing? What do they?
Speaker 7: I released that in third grade in school, we all
Speaker 7: want out released red balloons. The little thing on it
Speaker 7: where there goes?
Speaker 6: That's what the hell?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 5: Still flying losses balloon and eight he's still he's still
Speaker 5: never letting it go. That's the balloon right there floating on.
Speaker 3: Are you all joking aside?
Speaker 5: For thirty seconds?
Speaker 3: Like all again, please all joking aside?
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 3: Wait? What the fuck?
Speaker 5: Yeah? What's going on there? Well?
Speaker 4: That's the thing you think about some of these videos
Speaker 4: is that there are points where there's you know, interference.
Speaker 4: I think some of these it's the interference that becomes
Speaker 4: more anomalous than the objects themselves.
Speaker 3: Is this just a cloud cover or is this it
Speaker 3: trying to re establish?
Speaker 2: What I'm asking is, Yeah, if you saw that thing that,
Speaker 2: if you're the guy, if you're in the targeting pod. Right,
Speaker 2: you're the guy controlling this camera and you see that thing,
Speaker 2: whatever it is that you call it a balloon, whatever
Speaker 2: it is, Why if it's so easily identable, identifiable, why
Speaker 2: is there a five minute video of a fucking balloon?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: Do you have to just videotape everything you see out
Speaker 3: there for a data collection? And like, is that your like?
Speaker 3: Is that his job? Like, hey, shit, something's there, doesn't
Speaker 3: matter what it is, get eyes on it so we
Speaker 3: can So.
Speaker 5: To answer that question, you would need Logan because that's
Speaker 5: literally what he would do.
Speaker 6: Logan would be a good guy. But let's just go
Speaker 6: back to what we know.
Speaker 7: And one of the things that has been said over
Speaker 7: and over, whether you like Kirkpatrick or not, is that
Speaker 7: people would send in things and say it's probably a balloon.
Speaker 7: And he said this in an interview, so is everybody else.
Speaker 7: And they say, well, then why the hell did you
Speaker 7: send it in? They research it, they spend six months
Speaker 7: on it. It's a balloon. What do you think Errol's
Speaker 7: going to release that two or three percent to us,
Speaker 7: this is what we're seeing here. This is one that
Speaker 7: came in probably thought.
Speaker 6: It was a balloon.
Speaker 7: Now here we are, you know, the whole world's nhi.
Speaker 7: It's just it's so simple. It's a balloon.
Speaker 4: And to your question of you know what, you know,
Speaker 4: why are they going to track him for five minutes, Well,
Speaker 4: you know, very again, assuming that there's a you know,
Speaker 4: military operations going on in the area, it's something that's unexpected,
Speaker 4: so they want to identify it and they might be
Speaker 4: running it through several sets of eyes. Is this one
Speaker 4: of ours? Is this something that we know about, you know,
Speaker 4: from a country nearby? What other you know, what other
Speaker 4: ships are in the area, what other they're trying to
Speaker 4: gather information and track this thing to, you know, identify
Speaker 4: you know, friend or foe. Is it, you know, potentially
Speaker 4: a threat?
Speaker 5: Well, okay, I'm okay with a five minute clip. I'm
Speaker 5: not okay with an eighteen second clip. I think that's
Speaker 5: stupid because it shows you nothing. You know, they filmed
Speaker 5: it longer than eighteen seconds, show us that's what they
Speaker 5: filmed it for.
Speaker 3: That's actually a good Hey who's this guy?
Speaker 5: Hey, we're probe go.
Speaker 3: That's actually a good point.
Speaker 4: That dropped off because nobody talked to him.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry he dropped off because Vito keeps calling him
Speaker 7: Probe instead of Dan.
Speaker 5: Well, I didn't want to call him Dan because I
Speaker 5: didn't know if i'd say his name. I don't know.
Speaker 5: He wants his name out there.
Speaker 3: That's why I didn't even know. I'm sorry he was
Speaker 3: He's free to jump in at any any time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, please, dude, like and and this is the guy
Speaker 5: to speak to because he archives all of it. Like
Speaker 5: if you so, I thought I was gonna say, but
Speaker 5: we I wouldn't shut up. I'm sorry, Probed. If anybody
Speaker 5: doesn't know Probe is, go to his site on x
Speaker 5: It's awesome. You can search everything by keyword and it'll
Speaker 5: all pop up. You can search a bunch of different
Speaker 5: UFO topics. His site is amazing.
Speaker 3: Oh that's really cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's awesome.
Speaker 3: That's really cool. Hey, what's up, Gino?
Speaker 6: Hey Veto, We're.
Speaker 7: I thank he actually said his name on your show,
Speaker 7: so dance should be all right. But yeah, hey man,
Speaker 7: I was looking at videos of balloons and uh, we're.
Speaker 5: Looking at videos of Mike's asshole.
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I do believe a lot of this is balloons.
Speaker 12: A lot of what we especially this one.
Speaker 3: Looks old school. This looks old school. Huh, why does
Speaker 3: look like it's from like eighteen I mean.
Speaker 6: Finish, no said balloons, he's getting cut off.
Speaker 12: Yeah, this is the best podcast ever, the one that
Speaker 12: you showed, uh, previous to this. It's just to me,
Speaker 12: it just it was showing something hot, but the geometric pattern,
Speaker 12: and it is what happens with the all cameras when you're.
Speaker 8: Showing something that that is very bright or hot.
Speaker 12: So I didn't see anything that that in that last
Speaker 12: one that like showed anything anotialist to me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's what happens to a camera.
Speaker 7: That wasn't aliens displaying the cross to think that they
Speaker 7: were God, because that's what That's.
Speaker 5: Not what I said. I said. I said, I'd see
Speaker 5: how people from back in the day could miss mistake
Speaker 5: the aliens for God. Like when you see that in
Speaker 5: the sky, that's the same ship you see in religious paintings.
Speaker 5: You see that thing, dude, that's in every religious painting
Speaker 5: you've ever seen ever, like that weird.
Speaker 6: Star shape thing and religious painting.
Speaker 5: But that but that's what I'm saying. It's depicted religious pictures, paintings, drawings,
Speaker 5: the Man in the Last.
Speaker 6: Dinner painting, Veto.
Speaker 4: It's not on the Last Supper, it's not in any
Speaker 4: kind of audios.
Speaker 3: But it is.
Speaker 2: But it does track with what you're saying with the
Speaker 2: it's a combination of what Mike said and what Gino
Speaker 2: just brought up. So it's almost like a flare, but
Speaker 2: it's a radio radio radial flare, so you're seeing the
Speaker 2: hotness because it's not an actual image like Mike. Like,
Speaker 2: like Mike said, which is why I practiced it by
Speaker 2: asking someone with what infra it is, so you're not
Speaker 2: always getting a clean image of what that actually represents
Speaker 2: the object. What we're seeing is the radiation, so that
Speaker 2: radiations then being picked up by the camera and then
Speaker 2: the camera's doing the flare part where it then gives
Speaker 2: it that geometric shape or doubling of doubling down of shapes, right,
Speaker 2: it kind of like it will radiate essentially, So it
Speaker 2: does makes it I see what you guys are saying.
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm simply and I did say, put that,
Speaker 2: put that part aside. Put if it's a balloon aside.
Speaker 2: Is it not that your head does just kind of
Speaker 2: go there when you see a shape like that?
Speaker 3: Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 2: How even when light like when you look up at
Speaker 2: the sun right, sometimes it will flare itself into a cross.
Speaker 2: I find that to be interesting that people worshiped the
Speaker 2: sun as a god. And like you see this common
Speaker 2: kind of uh symbology and things. And whether it's paradolia
Speaker 2: or not, there's a reason we have paradolia. It's because
Speaker 2: that stuff looks familiar to us. So when we see
Speaker 2: a military video off said image that gives that star,
Speaker 2: I forgive me if if if I get a little.
Speaker 6: Excited, of course I here a forgiven right.
Speaker 8: What you guys, well, I get think a lot.
Speaker 5: How about you guys talk about did you fall?
Speaker 3: You fucking and ship? He like priested me if no
Speaker 3: one got.
Speaker 5: The joke, Oh, I painted. I posted the religious paintings
Speaker 5: with Upho's in it in the.
Speaker 4: In the chat, I don't want to post. I want
Speaker 4: you to name them.
Speaker 5: I don't know the names of them. Start.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we can go on on a baut ty. What
Speaker 6: do you for the next one? Brother?
Speaker 2: The paintings he's talking about are like, uh, the the
Speaker 2: you know what when she told him Jesus up?
Speaker 3: What's that one called?
Speaker 2: Uh? It's like the Christ Jesus christening of Jesus or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm not good but religion. But there's like there's a
Speaker 2: bunch of paintings.
Speaker 4: Where you see like, uh, I know, I know, I
Speaker 4: just want to see you struggle.
Speaker 5: He's just breaking my balls. He's just trying to get
Speaker 5: me to to show that I'm stupid.
Speaker 3: But this one looks older?
Speaker 4: Is it just me?
Speaker 3: Or does this look older? And or is this from
Speaker 3: like one of those.
Speaker 5: Like uh hu, I can't even tell where the UFO is.
Speaker 5: That's first of.
Speaker 3: All, is this a hot display of some sort.
Speaker 7: To be you're I mean, you know how it is
Speaker 7: like we go back when the spy one came out
Speaker 7: and they had to redo all that equipment for the
Speaker 7: I mean look, I mean.
Speaker 5: Tell me the file.
Speaker 4: The file will tell you when it was taken.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it may not necessarily be older, but the equipment's
Speaker 7: older or probably sitting from a helicopter or something not
Speaker 7: as high tech as they f thirty five or something.
Speaker 5: Wait, so is it the thing that's right in the
Speaker 5: middle there? What are we looking at?
Speaker 7: I can't tell you that there right, you're looking at
Speaker 7: it interdimensional portal on NACE service L that's guarded.
Speaker 3: Okay, but you have to admit this one.
Speaker 5: Oh wait, wait, was it the thing that just flew by?
Speaker 4: It was the black things. The thing in the center
Speaker 4: is the orientation of the aircraft.
Speaker 5: And now it's turning all right, the black thing that
Speaker 5: just went because I'm looking at a slideshow. You guys
Speaker 5: got a slide show, right, No, this is a no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the the there's so much like traffic to
Speaker 2: this website that it's been lagging over the past like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I wasn't sure if that was that or if
Speaker 5: it was the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I actually thought that that that thing
Speaker 3: in the middle was yeah, no, but it's.
Speaker 5: It's the two black things that go straight.
Speaker 4: That's the orientation of the craft.
Speaker 5: Yeah. It goes literally across the middle from the thirty
Speaker 5: five to the twenty five, from the top right to
Speaker 5: the left.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right. That video sucked anyway, though, much like
Speaker 2: they all probably.
Speaker 5: Do, for it was right there to think in the middle.
Speaker 3: So this is the Gulf. I like how they labeled
Speaker 3: it Gulf of America.
Speaker 5: They're fucked up.
Speaker 3: See no they renamed it.
Speaker 5: Oh I know, I know, I know it's fuck it
Speaker 5: they I know they just so I.
Speaker 3: Don't really want to go through all of these but Jesus.
Speaker 12: Christ, here's how I feel about everything that's been released
Speaker 12: so far, and especially this one.
Speaker 8: You know, I forgot who it was that. It might
Speaker 8: have been Tie that that that mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 12: Oh no, it was Jeane that said, what makes us
Speaker 12: think that we're going to figure out what the what
Speaker 12: these are?
Speaker 8: When when they can?
Speaker 12: Well, that's because they're just skimming off the top all
Speaker 12: the videos that don't matter, so they're not there. There's
Speaker 12: a lot of videos that matter that we're not at yet.
Speaker 12: I mean we're talking about about, you know, thousands of
Speaker 12: videos and evidence, so we're only getting what's being released easily.
Speaker 8: So you should expect that a lot of them are
Speaker 8: going to be balloons.
Speaker 12: A lot of them are going to be stuff that
Speaker 12: you're like, yeah, this is nothing, that's a lens clare.
Speaker 5: That's what I agree with, Mike. I want to see
Speaker 5: the bodies.
Speaker 3: I don't see anything in this image.
Speaker 2: I think that's why I looked at it. But I
Speaker 2: think Geno's right. I think that that's definitely the case.
Speaker 2: Is I think they're unloading what.
Speaker 5: Is it that little thing right there, that little a
Speaker 5: little triangle. Okay, well that looks.
Speaker 8: Very similar to the black night satellite for sure.
Speaker 4: The white line.
Speaker 6: Oh sh wait a second, but it is turning.
Speaker 8: That is a DIFFERENTI orientation that the black legs that.
Speaker 3: Oh, and this is this is a video or screenshot,
Speaker 3: these are these are pictures.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, But then it's gone, wait, oh no, no, it's.
Speaker 4: There, it's right there.
Speaker 3: It's fucking there.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 3: Wait, that's actually.
Speaker 5: That's a cellphone camera taken through a fucking screen. That's
Speaker 5: I mean, that's pretty cool. I like that, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean?
Speaker 2: What is this, dear commander whatever? Uh furnished trot? What
Speaker 2: the fuck does this say?
Speaker 3: Furnished? Herewith is a.
Speaker 2: Transcript of the minute of the Difference Conference held at
Speaker 2: Los Alamos February sixteenth, nineteen forty nine, pertaining to aerial phenomena.
Speaker 2: I find that to be so Los Alamos talking about
Speaker 2: in nineteen forty nine pertaining to aerial phenomena.
Speaker 3: What do you guys think they're talk about?
Speaker 4: Well, that's a I mean, that's a pretty good you know,
Speaker 4: it's a it's a transcript, so it's you know, all
Speaker 4: of the notes on Heinek is in there. What's his name?
Speaker 2: The guy that this was a private you know, much
Speaker 2: like the Saul conference today. This is almost like a
Speaker 2: privatized version of that in the military.
Speaker 4: Well at Los Alamos. So they right, So they have
Speaker 4: a bunch of brilliant minds involved in nuclear science and
Speaker 4: so Behinick sitting around the table trying to postulate what
Speaker 4: this stuff might be. And that's what they and and
Speaker 4: they had talked about, you know. And and that other picture,
Speaker 4: the the German aircraft, you know, that was the brothers
Speaker 4: there were working on at the end of World War Two,
Speaker 4: that never never made it into the Nazi inventory. You know,
Speaker 4: they're so they're just sort of examining all of the
Speaker 4: all of the possibilities.
Speaker 8: Gotcha Germany aircraft you to Glaca.
Speaker 4: It was the Horden brothers.
Speaker 3: Begins with an h Yeah, yeah, the hor Horton.
Speaker 8: Oh that's separate than the GLAA.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one there, that's the aircraft.
Speaker 3: So this is what So what am I looking at here?
Speaker 3: That's what that is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's right. That's one of the first iterations
Speaker 4: of a winged aircraft, you know, a wing aircraft that
Speaker 4: these German brothers had created in Germany through the nineteen forties,
Speaker 4: but it just never you know it never it never
Speaker 4: made it into action.
Speaker 2: Well that's very interesting either because no, no, now hear
Speaker 2: me out on this. Of course, I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get made fun of again. But do you think
Speaker 2: they're not either trying to recreate by virtue of some
Speaker 2: sort of sighting of because this looks similar to like
Speaker 2: what Kenneth Arnold would describe, right.
Speaker 4: Is if no, I get where you, I get where
Speaker 4: you're going, and.
Speaker 3: We know that they were very.
Speaker 2: I'm josh, I'm just trying to to put words to
Speaker 2: where my mind's going when I see something like this,
Speaker 2: because that looks exactly like what a bunch of people
Speaker 2: describe this bat wing thing.
Speaker 3: So do these brothers not try to take that that
Speaker 3: that by that uh, those reports and those reports and
Speaker 3: then recreate based on you know, what they had available
Speaker 3: to them. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't find that so out of realm with possibilities,
Speaker 2: because then why would it be fucking confidential for so long?
Speaker 4: No, and and listen, I've always said that, you know,
Speaker 4: when we really think about it, right.
Speaker 3: No doubt that that's fucking not alien.
Speaker 4: Right, what what's you know? What scientific development has come
Speaker 4: has not come from its origins being something that was
Speaker 4: observed and somebody started questioning it, right, And someone started questioning, well,
Speaker 4: now that we've observed it, what can we do with it?
Speaker 4: You know, you can go through that whole sort of cycle. Right,
Speaker 4: So the idea that you know, yeah, why because when
Speaker 4: they talk about oh, well, you know, things in the
Speaker 4: air in the eighteen hundred and sixty, right, So something
Speaker 4: something was observed that made people start sitting down writing
Speaker 4: about it and being like, well, what's asing it and
Speaker 4: drawing it and what could it be?
Speaker 5: And and I just don't. I just don't.
Speaker 2: I don't care for the argument that every single thing
Speaker 2: is a fucking balloon because you know, and like and
Speaker 2: again I'm not trying to pick a fi with anybody.
Speaker 4: Everything that we're being shown as a blow, you know.
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny if I didn't know how much
Speaker 5: Mike hated Arrow, I think he worked for them what
Speaker 5: he called that much?
Speaker 6: I ain't cash my check this month yet.
Speaker 5: Literally know's what's his face is underlings.
Speaker 2: Like did you gotta I gotta I gotta ask you
Speaker 2: guys about this? What do you make of Obviously we've
Speaker 2: heard stories from guys like Carl Wolf about structures on
Speaker 2: the Moon. We've heard uh from many other a few
Speaker 2: other people, Mike Barra, I feel like I'm missing a
Speaker 2: big one. But now Louelizondo is uh talking about this?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Do you the Apollo missions? I've seen them a couple
Speaker 2: of times come up in these files. Uh do you,
Speaker 2: I mean, do you give any credence to this idea?
Speaker 2: I know we talked about it earlier, but.
Speaker 5: I know, Geno, I thought it was a big deal.
Speaker 5: You fuckers roasted me in the group chat about like
Speaker 5: the greatest thing out. They literally ripped me apart in
Speaker 5: the group chat.
Speaker 3: Fucks.
Speaker 5: I was like, this is the great thing ever? Mom,
Speaker 5: like yeah, get bent retard like the rip me to pieces.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I just I just don't find listen.
Speaker 4: Is it interesting?
Speaker 5: Amazing? Of course, structures on the moon? Dude, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: It's true. It's legit, like that's if it's true.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's amazing. The fact that somebody said it doesn't
Speaker 4: make it amazing.
Speaker 8: And the word monoliths does not mean it's built by hands.
Speaker 5: True, but he did say, right angled buildings that appear
Speaker 5: to be built, you know, that appear to be created.
Speaker 5: That's what he said, he.
Speaker 8: Said, he said, he said monoliths with right angles.
Speaker 5: Yes, but he said that they didn't seem that. Do
Speaker 5: we have the quoter now because he said something.
Speaker 3: About it the pan text ship.
Speaker 5: You were looking at it at the other the other thing,
Speaker 5: weren't you.
Speaker 4: Where's panthers to a certain up top you prog.
Speaker 12: Now, the thing is we've been talking about monoliths on
Speaker 12: the Moon and Phobos for years though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, video, Well that's what I wanted to hear.
Speaker 4: What do you mean, no results, No, you went to
Speaker 4: the wrong search bar.
Speaker 7: It goes back to pahof Done and he said there
Speaker 7: was an alien base on the dark side of the Moon.
Speaker 7: I mean, we can go way back on some of
Speaker 7: these stupid claims. But I mean, again, we know it's
Speaker 7: not the Chinese. The alien it on the dark side
Speaker 7: of the moon. Maybe that's their antenna, could be what
Speaker 7: what other search bar is there?
Speaker 4: Go down right below right before where the files begin.
Speaker 3: They make this very easy to right there.
Speaker 2: Now there you go, Oh, okay, cool, thank you, So okay,
Speaker 2: you guys can continue.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, that's basically Wardex from the movie.
Speaker 6: For Christ's sake, you know, we're just saying Vidos an
Speaker 6: idiot for coming up.
Speaker 1: With that.
Speaker 5: Fucking balloons. He sees balls everywhere to sleep.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is Hey, what did we get in?
Speaker 2: So this file contains imagery and a report documenting the
Speaker 2: circumstances surrounding a September first, twenty fifteen incident involving an
Speaker 2: unidentified object. And I can see it. I'll zoom into
Speaker 2: it a minute. But I've been saying this for a
Speaker 2: long time on the show that nuclear facilities before I
Speaker 2: even read end into this, nuclear facilities are consistently being
Speaker 2: either shut down or interfered with by these these oranges
Speaker 2: that are usually that are usually reddish or orange or
Speaker 2: yellow in color, and they're they're breaching our most sensitive facilities.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what it looks like again here by
Speaker 2: what I'm seeing just I mean, at least it's it's consistent.
Speaker 3: It's an orb shape.
Speaker 2: And this is I asked Jane before the show, I said,
Speaker 2: what is pantext And he said, it's a place that.
Speaker 3: They don't really like to make headlines.
Speaker 2: This is where every This is where the maintenance that well,
Speaker 2: the creation, the destruction and the upkeep of our nuclear
Speaker 2: arsenal is this is the most influential. So if anything,
Speaker 2: anything breaches this airspace, it is not just a threat.
Speaker 2: It is an existential threat. It's not just a oh shit,
Speaker 2: guys like we have a problem. It's a it's an
Speaker 2: existential threat.
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 3: This this case. So I'd be very interested.
Speaker 2: To hear what you guys have to say about this,
Speaker 2: especially given Gene's involvement in the nuclear UH, the nuclear
Speaker 2: armament and the national security of the country. But so
Speaker 2: this is being this is an intruder over pan Text
Speaker 2: plant near Armarillo, Texas. The plant is a very sensitive
Speaker 2: national security site that could say it's the primary facility
Speaker 2: for assembly, dissembly, maintenance, and life extension of nuclear weapons UH.
Speaker 3: Page five and six of this report were originally.
Speaker 2: Released under Pursue Initiative in a more redacted form on
Speaker 2: May twenty six. See it tells you the reference file here,
Speaker 2: But there's another file here. I think it's this one.
Speaker 5: Yes, they're saying that that happened. This happened in May
Speaker 5: or this this was twenty fifteen. Wait, okay, thank you.
Speaker 4: It was the triangle shaped craft.
Speaker 5: Question.
Speaker 7: Because Jane was Yankee White. So Jane, I'm just going
Speaker 7: to show Gene talk here.
Speaker 3: Now, hold on before that, so I did do a
Speaker 3: little digging, so I just want to So.
Speaker 2: The timeline of the incident is on September one, twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: an unidentified and almost object actively by passed the facility's
Speaker 2: outer security perimeter and entered restricted air space. So the
Speaker 2: intrusion immediately triggered an automated alarm system, plunging the whole base,
Speaker 2: in the whole nuclear weapons plant, into a full scale
Speaker 2: emergency lockdown. As personnel hunkered down, two heavily armed Pantac
Speaker 2: security officers were dispatched into a tactical vehicle to intercept
Speaker 2: and identify the intruder. Visual contact that the officers visualized
Speaker 2: the object, but quickly realized that their vehicles could not
Speaker 2: keep pace with or catch up to the craft. They
Speaker 2: stopped their vehicle, stepped out into the open, and pulled
Speaker 2: out high powered binoculars to conduct a detailed assessment. According
Speaker 2: to the official witness statements of those security personnel and
Speaker 2: their logs, which have now been unsealed in Batch four,
Speaker 2: the officers gave an incredibly precise geometric description of the craft.
Speaker 3: It was described as a distinct diamond. Oh, it is
Speaker 3: a diamond. So that's interesting. Diamond shaped object featuring a
Speaker 3: noticeably rounded top. The dimensions had it was relatively compact,
Speaker 3: estimated to be a roughly four feet tall and two
Speaker 3: feet wide at its base. Kind of sounds like the
Speaker 3: Rendalshim one. It was real.
Speaker 5: The lot.
Speaker 2: It was moving deliberately and slowly, coasting at an estimated
Speaker 2: speed of around ten to fifteen miles per hour. The interestingly,
Speaker 2: the witnesses described varied slightly, varied slightly. Oh, the color
Speaker 2: varied slightly on its exterior. Some logs described the craft
Speaker 2: as flat absorbing black, which is like that absence of
Speaker 2: light rather than just a like black hue, while another
Speaker 2: entry noted that it appeared just as like a reflective
Speaker 2: silver with distinct red and blue ques. That's a very
Speaker 2: very different Those are two very different things. So that's interesting.
Speaker 2: There's a I think what the most interesting part of
Speaker 2: this is is the no propulsion paradox.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It's the craft is said to have hovered completely silently
Speaker 2: in place over restricted nuclear site for either one to
Speaker 2: two minutes, then without tilting, reving showing any aerodynamic exhaust,
Speaker 2: it simply began drifting, uh due north. Of course, this
Speaker 2: you know, sounds balloony, but I just I don't know
Speaker 2: if I I dig that on this one. So it
Speaker 2: did smoothly exit, the facilities are sticked in airspace. Uh,
Speaker 2: and then it vanished off site. What do you guys
Speaker 2: think of this? I mean, do you think this is
Speaker 2: a hobbyist drone? I don't think that that's even possible.
Speaker 2: You can't even fly into a fucking airport with a
Speaker 2: hobby drone, get it, just it stops you from doing it,
Speaker 2: let alone the heart of America's nuclear arsenal?
Speaker 4: What how big?
Speaker 11: How big?
Speaker 5: Did they say this thing was exactly.
Speaker 3: Four feet?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Sorry for four feet?
Speaker 2: Like four feet and then two feet wide, So again
Speaker 2: it kind of gives it. And then try and go
Speaker 2: with a rounded top again. It really brings that imagery
Speaker 2: of like the Rendall shim craft, or at least how
Speaker 2: they described it.
Speaker 6: Well before I.
Speaker 7: Hand this off the jeans, like I said, he was
Speaker 7: Yankee White should go first. I just want to kind
Speaker 7: of give everybody an update here, which is that that
Speaker 7: concept of your drone not letting you fly is is
Speaker 7: not accurate anymore. Dj I actually pissed off the US
Speaker 7: government and they took those off of their system. So
Speaker 7: you know those are implemented essentially by your actual drain
Speaker 7: drone maker. So even if you buy a cheap drone
Speaker 7: off Amazon, they don't have them on it. So now
Speaker 7: that that I've got a different spin on that. But
Speaker 7: just so we're kind of accurate on.
Speaker 5: This, did they have that ability in twenty fifteen and
Speaker 5: that second twenty fifteen I don't know. I'm just asking
Speaker 5: you again.
Speaker 7: I'll go over my own spill what I think it is.
Speaker 7: Like I said, Gene, this was Jean's heyday.
Speaker 6: You let's let them go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to. I'm sorry you.
Speaker 2: If I was a Chinese operative, I would build one.
Speaker 2: If that's the case. I thought it was something the
Speaker 2: US government implemented onto it and was like like like
Speaker 2: some like barrier that they like created. I didn't know
Speaker 2: China was so they could just switch that fucking shit
Speaker 2: off handed to their boy and be like.
Speaker 3: Hey, we need you to do some flights.
Speaker 6: It's less than that.
Speaker 7: So if you're a Chinese operative, you're not going to
Speaker 7: be flying a dj I from Walmart. You're going to
Speaker 7: be three D print. Yeah, you can put these together yourself.
Speaker 6: You can, uh and not.
Speaker 7: Right, you can even go onto YouTube right now and
Speaker 7: figure out how to turn off your navigating lights if
Speaker 7: you want to go. I mean, it's all sorts of shit.
Speaker 7: So like, yeah, that's kind of I mean, it's twenty six, right, I.
Speaker 3: Think about that. Yeah, all right, Gene, you are Yankee White.
Speaker 3: Let's go what what this is? Pantexs.
Speaker 2: This is the heart of the United States, is strategic
Speaker 2: military and just military, I mean a nuclear armament.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, you know the thing about it is,
Speaker 4: you know, there's no real real capacity to shoot these
Speaker 4: things down, right, These these facilities generally don't have air
Speaker 4: defense systems. But again, what I found kind of interesting
Speaker 4: when I read the report was it talked about that
Speaker 4: it had picked it had picked it up on radar.
Speaker 4: That was the first indication. And then that's when they
Speaker 4: started locking things down. And when the secure and and
Speaker 4: they you know, secured, they dispatched security forces to uh
Speaker 4: secure the main assets, and then they had the patrol
Speaker 4: go out and try and chase this thing down. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, that's all sort of standard standard operating procedure.
Speaker 4: I think. You know, again, the significance of this really is,
Speaker 4: you know, number one, it's DOE related, right, and we
Speaker 4: know that if there's anything hidden, that's hidden in DOE,
Speaker 4: so it's kind of a good thing to see some
Speaker 4: stuff come out from there. It's you know, very you know,
Speaker 4: it's a good report and so much as it sort
Speaker 4: of has all of the elements of the photo, the
Speaker 4: security response, it's got a good timeline, you know, it
Speaker 4: gives it paints a very thorough picture of an incident.
Speaker 4: Let's say, you know, we don't again have any indication
Speaker 4: that it interfered with any of the security operations or
Speaker 4: you know, this this isn't a place that they're launching
Speaker 4: nukes from, right, so you don't have sort of the
Speaker 4: Malmstrom or the launch facility issues of things shutting down.
Speaker 4: This is them putting stuff together and disassembling stuff and
Speaker 4: getting rid of materials. You know, they probably again just
Speaker 4: have the vault systems and things like that. That would
Speaker 4: be what you'd be interested to know. Didn't you know,
Speaker 4: did any of the security equipment around the vaults where
Speaker 4: the nukes are kept were was there any interference with
Speaker 4: those which you know, the report doesn't indicate. And then
Speaker 4: it just gives some insights into the whole you know,
Speaker 4: reporting chain from the facility on the ground through the
Speaker 4: the National Nuclear Security Agency, which again just operates under
Speaker 4: the DOE. And and you know, I don't know if
Speaker 4: a whole of people are are really familiar with the
Speaker 4: with the nns A. A lot of you know, a
Speaker 4: lot of old Air Force cops go to work there,
Speaker 4: so it's kind of becomes one of the particularly if
Speaker 4: you spent a lot of your career out in the
Speaker 4: missile fields, you usually wind up there. Or the US.
Speaker 3: Marshals gotcha, I did he leave?
Speaker 6: Get who's that that?
Speaker 3: The other guy? He popped in? I was gonna say
Speaker 3: hi to him before?
Speaker 2: But okay, I mean fair enough. Yeah, there's no there's
Speaker 2: definitely no interference here that we know of. No, no
Speaker 2: tampering with the weapons systems, no, you know, forcing weapons
Speaker 2: to go online, no forcing them offline. It's just something
Speaker 2: that's seen above the facility that thrust the facility into
Speaker 2: a shutdown.
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty fifteen. You know, some of the research I
Speaker 4: had been researching for a while, you know, the the
Speaker 4: nuclear incursions, and you know actually noticed this pattern, you know,
Speaker 4: after Chernobyl there seemed to there. Prior to Chernobyl, there
Speaker 4: were a lot of reports when when the reports came in.
Speaker 4: There were a lot of reports of interference with the
Speaker 4: systems after Chernobyl, the reports mainly seemed to be around observation.
Speaker 4: I think there there was a later it was either
Speaker 4: Malmstrom again or Montana. There was like a two thousand
Speaker 4: and six incident over a nuclear base where there was
Speaker 4: some interference, but there seemed to be a drop off
Speaker 4: and the reports were much more observational in nature. And
Speaker 4: so you know, my my thesis, The question I always
Speaker 4: wondered was either a were the were the shutdowns and
Speaker 4: the technology failures that were associated with the appearance of
Speaker 4: these craft actually interference of the craft operated the craft
Speaker 4: trying to extract or tap into our systems and was
Speaker 4: causing things to go offline or come online or send
Speaker 4: false messages sort of you know, a Wi Fi Bluetooth mismatch,
Speaker 4: so to speak. Or had we actually developed preventative technologies
Speaker 4: that kept that from happening, which meant to Whistle and
Speaker 4: Mike's points that at some point we were able to
Speaker 4: identify the signals of these craft and create countermeasures for them.
Speaker 5: OK.
Speaker 4: And this is why I say, that's what becomes the
Speaker 4: problem with putting a Bob Solace or having any congressional
Speaker 4: testimony involving UFOs over nukes, because those become the inevitable
Speaker 4: questions that need to be asked and the inevitable answers
Speaker 4: that nobody would want to give because it would indicate
Speaker 4: that you know what this craft is or you have
Speaker 4: picked up signals from the craft, and it's not just
Speaker 4: a US discussion at that point because the the we
Speaker 4: we have we are responsible for nukes around the world,
Speaker 4: and so much as in you know we we are
Speaker 4: we are the custodians of NATO's nuclear assets. They go
Speaker 4: by our standards and our protocols and everything like that.
Speaker 4: So if it's brought up in the US and they say, oh,
Speaker 4: there's you know, UFOs over nukes and nobody knows what
Speaker 4: to do about it, and that's not getting asked in
Speaker 4: Congress and nobody can give any answers, then you're going
Speaker 4: to have the allies be like, well, how do we
Speaker 4: know that you know? How do we know that that
Speaker 4: the nukes in our nations are safe? Right? You're going
Speaker 4: to have Germany up the US's ass about, well, how
Speaker 4: you know these are on German soil? You need to
Speaker 4: tell us how you know how can you guarantee that
Speaker 4: one of these objects can't, you know, cause a catastrophic
Speaker 4: you know, a broken err or a men's spear, right,
Speaker 4: and some stuff.
Speaker 12: So I'm surprised that this video came out specifically, or
Speaker 12: these pictures, because say we are how big could that
Speaker 12: base be or that facility? One thousand acres or one
Speaker 12: hundred acres whatever you pick, your number doesn't matter miles.
Speaker 12: So we should be able to be have access and
Speaker 12: control of that air space over that base, but not
Speaker 12: only over that base.
Speaker 8: But around it.
Speaker 12: So so what happens here? What are we pointing out
Speaker 12: that something came in and we weren't able to scramble
Speaker 12: fast enough. I mean, when we had a balloon in Alaska,
Speaker 12: we went up there and shot it with nets and
Speaker 12: brought it down. How can we go do the same
Speaker 12: thing to this We should be able to. This is
Speaker 12: showing a most This is showing a big hole in
Speaker 12: what what we can and can't do. There's no reason
Speaker 12: we shouldn't have this facility guarded by air in the air,
Speaker 12: I mean, there should be able to be a scramble
Speaker 12: so with instruments and maybe Gene could answer this.
Speaker 8: So we're detecting these things over we should have seen it.
Speaker 8: Where are we losing it? And why are we losing it?
Speaker 12: Because once it's once it's detected, we should be scrambling
Speaker 12: something a helicopter, I don't care what it is.
Speaker 8: We're throwing on its own.
Speaker 12: Of course we're talking ten years ago, so that would
Speaker 12: have been a little bit harder, but we should have
Speaker 12: been able to scramble something in the air to find it,
Speaker 12: unless it had some other anomalous activity that we're not
Speaker 12: being told right here, how did it get away?
Speaker 8: How did it get away?
Speaker 5: So they said they couldn't keep up with it, didn't
Speaker 5: they say they couldn't keep up with it or something
Speaker 5: like that? Or that was with the vehicle on the grounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what I mean. It's almost there.
Speaker 5: Right, So there's no way that you can't exactly what
Speaker 5: Gino said, there's no way this thing is getting within
Speaker 5: ten miles of there and they don't see it, know
Speaker 5: what it is.
Speaker 4: And just to.
Speaker 2: Adhurance, what's the clearance for live fire over a nuclear.
Speaker 5: Base and that and that place specifically, there should have
Speaker 5: been Yeah, there should have been some.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean here's here here, Yeah, here's the
Speaker 4: thing with that, So you know, the again in the
Speaker 4: Air Force, and when you're dealing with with nukes, they're
Speaker 4: the the use of debt. The parameters for the use
Speaker 4: of deadly force are a lot thinner than in general, right,
Speaker 4: and that being said, the use of deadly for the
Speaker 4: discharge of firearms near nukes is the last thing you
Speaker 4: want to do, right, right, They don't want any you know,
Speaker 4: any kind of discharges in those areas. So so yeah,
Speaker 4: we we're generally and you have to you know, and
Speaker 4: ultimately you have to get permission. You're your officer in
Speaker 4: charge is the one who's going to make that determination
Speaker 4: of you're going to try and shoot something down. So
Speaker 4: obviously you don't want to try and shoot something down
Speaker 4: if it's going to land in the facility, if it's
Speaker 4: going to potentially cause you know, any kind of incident,
Speaker 4: you know, involving the assets themselves, if you're not able
Speaker 4: to control all of all of those factors. But to
Speaker 4: Gino's point about you know what's around there, so you
Speaker 4: know Amarillo, Texas. The only active US Air Force base
Speaker 4: is Canon Air Force Base in Clovis, New Mexico, which
Speaker 4: is one hundred and twelve miles southwest of Amarillo. And
Speaker 4: then there is Shepherd Air Force Base in Wichita Falls, Texas,
Speaker 4: located two hundred and twenty eight miles to the southeast.
Speaker 8: Now that's to my point.
Speaker 12: So if we can't protect this, why are we letting
Speaker 12: out the information that we can't protect.
Speaker 4: It was headed? This was headed? What would they say? North?
Speaker 5: You're telling me that this base or whatever this thing is,
Speaker 5: doesn't have rough the capability for a plane to take
Speaker 5: off and defend it. I find that impossible. There's got
Speaker 5: to be something.
Speaker 3: There's no private runway like a right, there's.
Speaker 5: Gotta be if this base is, if this base is
Speaker 5: what Tye says it is, there's got to be defenses
Speaker 5: in some way, shape or form something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the impression that nothing was scraped. Are we gonna
Speaker 2: buy that nothing was? No jet was scrambled on this This.
Speaker 6: Incident I called bullshit. Guys, it's you're you're overthinking it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: So again, there's a nuclear plant Wolf Creek here in Kansas,
Speaker 7: and they actually daily out of tickets every year in
Speaker 7: a raffle because the water is warm that's used to
Speaker 7: cool it. When we have tropical species in there to fish.
Speaker 7: That's your fucking security guys, like you're overthinking this. You're
Speaker 7: you're thinking this is an interdimensional portal guarded on for service.
Speaker 6: Land or some ship.
Speaker 5: But there's something still Listen.
Speaker 6: To this, man, listen to this.
Speaker 7: So our special forces just put out a you know,
Speaker 7: racing request for proposal for a radar system to pick
Speaker 7: up drones that you can't see. So we sure the
Speaker 7: hell couldn't find in twenty fifteen, it's harder to shoot
Speaker 7: down a drone than you think, and if the lights
Speaker 7: go off, nothing can catch it. This, like Gina was saying,
Speaker 7: it really is a matter of why did they meet?
Speaker 7: We're caught with our pants down, like, but there's no
Speaker 7: defense against this. So do you shoot it down? Or
Speaker 7: do you just let it float off like it did?
Speaker 7: Let we just let it float off like we did
Speaker 7: like all these videos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when we have the facility itself, the facility itself
Speaker 4: is sixteen thousand acres. It doesn't have an airfield. But
Speaker 4: team you.
Speaker 12: Mentioned are both the bases you mentioned that that are
Speaker 12: seem far, they're still close enough by air you're covering
Speaker 12: that distance.
Speaker 8: So probably, Yeah, it's not like those bases.
Speaker 12: Are too far to scramble someone maybe there's too far
Speaker 12: to scramble a hell there, but not a jet, so
Speaker 12: you know, they could have been on top of it easily.
Speaker 8: However, also there should be some kind of communication with
Speaker 8: other law enforcement.
Speaker 12: If they can't catch it on there with their jeep,
Speaker 12: they should be calling ahead to every law enforcement saying, hey,
Speaker 12: you know, behind the lookout for.
Speaker 8: This thing in the air, we got to keep track
Speaker 8: of it, which.
Speaker 5: They did, so I guess yeah they did.
Speaker 4: They did have contact the sheriff's office, the sheriff met them,
Speaker 4: but it was gone by the time the sheriff got there.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Just again, guys, this happened in twenty fifteen and then
Speaker 7: look at how much further Langley happened. So what did
Speaker 7: we do in that time over a nuclear and Langley
Speaker 7: not a fucking thing. That's how the government works. It's
Speaker 7: unfortunate to say it.
Speaker 6: Where are we at now? Nowhere?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but why why do the government do nothing over Langley? Why?
Speaker 3: It's almost like they know that that they can't do anything.
Speaker 7: Right, That's why they didn't prepare from this to Langley.
Speaker 7: We're still not prepared. We have some paperwork that went
Speaker 7: through from Cotton and Jilli Brown that said, we can
Speaker 7: shoot things down, but again we have no defense.
Speaker 6: And this is the whole point of it.
Speaker 7: This isn't Nhi, this is other countries letting us know
Speaker 7: that if a war starts, the war will not be
Speaker 7: in Taiwan for US, for US China. All they'll do
Speaker 7: is hit us here. They've already shown they can throw
Speaker 7: drones five hundred incidents last year over sensitive sights. You
Speaker 7: knock out a couple planes on the airways, you don't
Speaker 7: have to put a nuke over anymore. Now, what you
Speaker 7: do is you target things like the nuclear facilities already
Speaker 7: in the country. You poison the air, you poison the ground,
Speaker 7: you poison the water. Like times have changed and it
Speaker 7: has nothing to do with aliens and we are way
Speaker 7: way behind.
Speaker 3: Well okay, if.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's I mean, I do see the points
Speaker 2: I do. Warfare is definitely change, and it's not you know, it's.
Speaker 3: Not the world. It's not gonna be world.
Speaker 2: If World War three breaks out, I don't think anyone
Speaker 2: thought it was going to be fought the same way
Speaker 2: World War two was, right like in the trenches.
Speaker 3: No, that this will be some sort of you.
Speaker 6: Don't want to be in a tanker aircraft carrier. This
Speaker 6: war you're done.
Speaker 12: Has any other foreign country put out that they've had
Speaker 12: UAPs over their nuclear facilities?
Speaker 3: It's a good question.
Speaker 7: I know, pretty as facilities and others, you know, like
Speaker 7: in Australia. Different places have reported, but I don't know
Speaker 7: about necessarily GENO in actual country their own assets saying
Speaker 7: that they think England or the UK had some issues.
Speaker 5: I know the drone swarms were reported everywhere that much.
Speaker 5: I know what's it's Dan from Probe dere right on
Speaker 5: the bottom.
Speaker 2: Well, also Rendalsham was technical, like, I mean it's Rendalsham
Speaker 2: was a nuclear facility.
Speaker 8: They just I mean, so we know that was that
Speaker 8: was our info that came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I said, okay, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I mean it's a joint operating base.
Speaker 8: But well, you know, it could be a.
Speaker 12: It could be sigh out that we need more money
Speaker 12: for to protect our our basis, things like that. So
Speaker 12: if it was global, then there'd be at least something
Speaker 12: a little more to grab onto than just could we
Speaker 12: be be being lied to and a balloon being utilized
Speaker 12: as how do we get a billion more dollars out
Speaker 12: of your tax money.
Speaker 5: To protect this they don't need a reason, they just
Speaker 5: take it.
Speaker 7: Geno's God, I think we've solved that this is a
Speaker 7: boy sca balloon. It's just like they're on the floor
Speaker 7: over the shot down earlier.
Speaker 4: So there's a yeah, what NASA child joined down there?
Speaker 5: Hello? Oh, who's that?
Speaker 4: Hello?
Speaker 6: NASA child?
Speaker 4: Hello child?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 11: Yeah, it just seems like a rehash of the Paul
Speaker 11: Benowitz's dotty stuff. Guys. It seems like they're trying to
Speaker 11: feed us the same thing that made Benowitz go crazy.
Speaker 11: So I'm just letting y'all guys know that this was
Speaker 11: early drone testing and they're just re releasing a lot
Speaker 11: of it, except for the new data, which is just
Speaker 11: new secrets they're hiding. They're just piling it on top
Speaker 11: to confuse people and you know, drive the schizophrenics of
Speaker 11: a wall and tell us everything's going wild and everything's
Speaker 11: shape shifting and it's all true, even though it's been
Speaker 11: fiction this whole time. Most of the stuff there they're
Speaker 11: pushing on TikTok and that someone's leaking. There's a lot
Speaker 11: of bs. Y'all know that we're looking for facts.
Speaker 6: Beto doesn't know that, but I'm glad you helped me
Speaker 6: out there.
Speaker 13: We'll look, Okay, y'all know about body, right, y'all know
Speaker 13: about Benowitz, right?
Speaker 11: I mean he was looking at the same stuff. He
Speaker 11: was like, it looks like something's over the nuke facility,
Speaker 11: and they're like, yeah, let's talk to you. And they're
Speaker 11: feeding this guy misinformation for years. Y'all know about the story, right, Yes,
Speaker 11: of course.
Speaker 2: Of course that's It's one of the one of those
Speaker 2: things that I think UH is told to little ufologists
Speaker 2: to keep them in line, is the story.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that we're there.
Speaker 11: They're like putting us all in that like like they
Speaker 11: don't think we already know that story. So they're making
Speaker 11: this viral like TikTok for the people that don't know.
Speaker 11: And that's why they're just shoveling it at us again
Speaker 11: with the old blurry stuff and stuff from nineteen forty
Speaker 11: eight and stuff from nineteen fifty two that there is
Speaker 11: no real the people are dead that was there, there's
Speaker 11: no reason that they're hiding it, and the people that
Speaker 11: were working on it are all dead. The people that
Speaker 11: were there in person at Roswell are all dead. It's
Speaker 11: just like that stuff should have been released twenty five
Speaker 11: thirty years ago, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got a point here.
Speaker 7: You know, back when we used to do the F
Speaker 7: one seventeen SR seventy one where people actually saw craft
Speaker 7: and called in UFOs, they.
Speaker 6: Don't even gotta do that anymore.
Speaker 7: Now it's like orbs crosses and we're all on here
Speaker 7: talking about religious So God came back. I mean, like
Speaker 7: we're making this job easy, I think, especially Vito.
Speaker 5: Sorry if my kid came.
Speaker 4: To the room.
Speaker 11: Now Navy has plasma orbs for targeting, meaning that instead
Speaker 11: of just shapes, they have plasma targeting where it's confusing
Speaker 11: radars and confusing people on the ground of what they're seeing.
Speaker 11: So they do have some weird plasma stuff, and there's
Speaker 11: probably other countries using it too, but there's been plasma before.
Speaker 11: The Navy was using it for sure out there, and
Speaker 11: they have just.
Speaker 4: The basic you know kind of uh targeting, the targeting
Speaker 4: orbs that they that they that they use that are
Speaker 4: some of them are.
Speaker 11: You know, is this Gorgon's eye stuff or something otherwise?
Speaker 11: And which military is using it?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying in general, there's I'm not speaking to.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, some stuff we don't do, just like
Speaker 11: our Olympic teams, we contract out, like the Norwegian have
Speaker 11: some better boats than we do. Who the who is
Speaker 11: the Norwegian navy fought? But they have some of the
Speaker 11: awesomest boats in like the world navies of these sleek
Speaker 11: you know, small destroyer ships or something that are just
Speaker 11: totally badass. They're so fast, and it's just it's like
Speaker 11: our obviously our military kind of contracts out from these
Speaker 11: smaller countries, and then the stuff we don't utilize as
Speaker 11: like full force, you don't. We don't buy two hundred
Speaker 11: of them. We just buy two to four of them,
Speaker 11: you know, when we give them the special ops guys
Speaker 11: and they roll in quietly and do what they need
Speaker 11: to do.
Speaker 3: So shit, where was that going? I totally just lost
Speaker 3: my train of thought. God damn it. I oh oh
Speaker 3: oh sorry, So there.
Speaker 2: You know, there's been a lot of talk recently about
Speaker 2: and this is coming from uh like guys like Ross
Speaker 2: coltartuh Gene, I know you you frequently talk with him.
Speaker 2: There was this, uh, this discussion being had around uh
Speaker 2: lou Aleisondo being a part of legacy UFO program, And
Speaker 2: it kind of dawned on me the other day that
Speaker 2: again We've been saying this, I think, to ourselves for
Speaker 2: a long time. Lou has always been kind of upfront
Speaker 2: about what he's doing. He's always been a counterintelligence guy.
Speaker 2: He's not a ufologist. I think everyone knows the quote, right,
Speaker 2: I will never be a ufologist or whatever he says.
Speaker 2: I'm a counter intel guy. I was asked to put
Speaker 2: my services onto the UFO community. So do I see
Speaker 2: the similarities between like the Dody Benowitz?
Speaker 3: Of course I do.
Speaker 2: And I think that Lou has probably been sent out
Speaker 2: to most likely start what we've been seeing. You are
Speaker 2: the first domino that fell was that New York Times
Speaker 2: article in twenty seventeen. It's it's no stranger that that
Speaker 2: Lou was at the center of that article.
Speaker 5: Right, wouldn't shock you if if you find out and
Speaker 5: he was part of legacy it would have shocked anybody.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't shocked me. It makes sense.
Speaker 6: I get a question, Vita, what's that good?
Speaker 2: It wouldn't shock me if he was part of some
Speaker 2: sort of legacy program. And like I said, and he
Speaker 2: was asked to do exactly what he's doing. So when
Speaker 2: people get no, but also but also enough deny of
Speaker 2: fucking ability, Right, so that's when he's in the fuck
Speaker 2: he's showing pictures of crops or whatever, the irrigation circles. Right,
Speaker 2: keep your limitations at bay. Right, there's enough there to go. Eh,
Speaker 2: I'm not buying it, But there's also some With every
Speaker 2: you know, great piece of disinformation, there is a core
Speaker 2: piece of information. So again I said it in the intro,
Speaker 2: I think our expectations and our experience with the phenomena,
Speaker 2: they're no longer just saying it doesn't exist, it's swamp gas,
Speaker 2: it's venus. What they're doing is they're managing your expectation
Speaker 2: of the phenomena so that when it comes knocking eventually,
Speaker 2: they can say what the fuck you mean?
Speaker 3: We've been talking about it for however long now.
Speaker 5: Right, which is why we roll on doctor Phils. It's
Speaker 5: managing people what they see. It's it's managing it. It's
Speaker 5: it's slow drip. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 7: What was your question, Mike, No, just saying it's a
Speaker 7: good question, because it's like, okay, then let's play the
Speaker 7: what if?
Speaker 6: Right, So like, yeah, what what if he is? You know,
Speaker 6: does it surprise you?
Speaker 7: I think the other part of it is doesn't matter
Speaker 7: because he's only got control over you if you listen
Speaker 7: to him. If you don't want to listen, just like me,
Speaker 7: just like Vido, just like Jeans, like tie, or if
Speaker 7: you think he's done the truth, you listen to him.
Speaker 7: But I mean, like, I don't feel like the sort
Speaker 7: of concept that it's like they implement these people in
Speaker 7: the community to keep us from the truth is really
Speaker 7: that big of an objective to overcome. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 7: either figure it out or you don't. They're not whole
Speaker 7: the files and we've got to figure him out. And
Speaker 7: they say, oh, here they are. I mean, it's just
Speaker 7: another person who's got their story, their version of things.
Speaker 6: I mean, it is what it is to me.
Speaker 5: To me, it doesn't matter at all. But the fact
Speaker 5: that he was on that UAP task force would put
Speaker 5: him as the person that would be on the legacy program.
Speaker 5: If you're running a task force about UAP's and UFOs
Speaker 5: and et cetera, wouldn't you be part of a legacy program.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't that be like the thing that you're doing. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's what That's what makes sense to me. So to
Speaker 5: be to be baffled or curious or confused the fact
Speaker 5: that he is or he was or to that to
Speaker 5: be a type of like you know, like reality check
Speaker 5: is just insane to me. It's just it would make
Speaker 5: sense that he was he supposed you know, he's got
Speaker 5: all these connections. It makes total sense.
Speaker 2: Geane, What do you think about what do you think
Speaker 2: about what Ross has been saying about that, that whole situation.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's certainly validity to it, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean he's working for somebody, you know, not you know,
Speaker 4: he's still contracted in there, so you know, any any
Speaker 4: guesses as good as the other, any connection you know, okay, fair,
Speaker 4: don't no where to go with it other than you know,
Speaker 4: it's to me, it's like, okay, you know it was
Speaker 4: another one of those like non.
Speaker 5: News items, right, yeah, exactly, Okay, I would assume he
Speaker 5: was yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, what I agree?
Speaker 6: I agree completely. It's a non news item.
Speaker 7: It sounds word to say we've made him a hot
Speaker 7: button ticket, but it's like, okay, let's say he knows
Speaker 7: about the whole legacy program. He's also the guy that's
Speaker 7: told us all this stuff is real. And if he doesn't,
Speaker 7: if he's covering something else up and we got that.
Speaker 7: But I mean even if we put him up and
Speaker 7: we bust him, what do we get? We get the
Speaker 7: same thing we have now, either a story you believe
Speaker 7: or a story you don't. I just I don't think
Speaker 7: he's going to be the key to like here it is.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, where's the bodies?
Speaker 5: Where's this?
Speaker 6: Where's that?
Speaker 7: What good would a photo do you that you know, uh,
Speaker 7: grush is saying that they see of crashes or bodies
Speaker 7: because you don't have it on the original device or metadata.
Speaker 7: Even if he's telling the truth, even if the photos
Speaker 7: are really you can't prove it. We got to look
Speaker 7: at a different way of going about this. And it's
Speaker 7: not the photos of bodies, believe it or not, or
Speaker 7: a crash is from the forties, fifties and sixties, and
Speaker 7: it's not louil'sondo telling us what is or isn't deep
Speaker 7: legacy program and that well, Mike.
Speaker 4: And I'll just harp on and you know, Mike, we
Speaker 4: you know in our like our other our other chat
Speaker 4: that we have, you know, it's nothing anybody says matters.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. It's all the stuff that's you know,
Speaker 4: what they're doing is what matters. That's where the story is.
Speaker 5: Okay, Mike, I hat a question because you're you're a
Speaker 5: big time skeptic, I would assume with this whole thing,
Speaker 5: So what would you take is proof? Would you take
Speaker 5: an image of a body? Would you take video of
Speaker 5: a body? Would you believe that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: What would be proof for you a skeptic? I think
Speaker 5: it's a valid you know what I mean? Like for me,
Speaker 5: would be a video. But a video can be faked.
Speaker 5: We could have seen videos of aliens already. We could
Speaker 5: have seen images of aliens. How many of these images
Speaker 5: that are being dropped in these files right, our images
Speaker 5: that we've seen for the last fifty years that are
Speaker 5: now just being released as authentic and official, and we're
Speaker 5: just rolling with it because the government is And I've
Speaker 5: been always like anti anti believe the government a whole life,
Speaker 5: you know, don't believe the government, et cetera. But now
Speaker 5: it's like now I'm kind of trying to believe them
Speaker 5: because I don't. I'm I don't know what to believe
Speaker 5: half the time. It's it's crazy. So like, what would
Speaker 5: you takes proof?
Speaker 4: For years?
Speaker 7: I mean, they're Yeah, I think this is where we
Speaker 7: get into how we're still harping on things like Roswell
Speaker 7: or now before that Mussolinian and going into the thirties.
Speaker 7: A photo from the thirties of bodies or a crash
Speaker 7: is just not going to work. It's not gonna work
Speaker 7: because you don't have metadata. It's also not gonna work
Speaker 7: because Arrows already bit that in the butt with their
Speaker 7: story of how they took down a photo of an
Speaker 7: Aliens and put it in a bar down by a base,
Speaker 7: and we're briefing people that aliens were real. They've already
Speaker 7: covered their bases on that. They've already defeated you on that.
Speaker 7: So you have to have something new. You would have
Speaker 7: to have something released from you know, a thirty five
Speaker 7: or twenty two, But that would mean it have to
Speaker 7: be now. And if it's here now and you got
Speaker 7: bodies or crash, you could show it. But there is
Speaker 7: my problem. Would I believe that? Yeah, but you will
Speaker 7: never see it because that will always be sucked up
Speaker 7: by the Defense Department, whether it's the power source or
Speaker 7: the anti gravity.
Speaker 6: Whatever stuff we want.
Speaker 5: A body is not a passage.
Speaker 7: A body shows you that there is an alien race
Speaker 7: that has this technology. So that's still the path of
Speaker 7: where would you go to find it? So if we
Speaker 7: say aliens are real, and now we got a craft
Speaker 7: like the tic TAC that can take out a whole
Speaker 7: carrier strike group, like Fraver said, in five seconds, then
Speaker 7: everyone else is gonna be them for aliens because they
Speaker 7: want that technology.
Speaker 5: So believe it or not. But they're telling us, but
Speaker 5: they're telling us it's real. They're saying, hey, these are craft.
Speaker 5: We don't know where they're from. They're not from here.
Speaker 5: It's not us, it's not our adversaries. We don't know
Speaker 5: what they are here they are. They're literally telling us
Speaker 5: this with four whatever.
Speaker 7: I don't think they're telling me just that, but they're
Speaker 7: definitely leaving us questions where if we believe that, we
Speaker 7: can go with it.
Speaker 5: But for so clearly there's something in there flying those things.
Speaker 7: Everything I've seen in these when we go out and
Speaker 7: we work and we work with our radar system and
Speaker 7: we go on everything in here, I wouln't really bad
Speaker 7: an eye at I'm just being honest with you.
Speaker 6: I see a little orb here, I see this going that.
Speaker 6: This isn't sent i'd bring in.
Speaker 7: When I was at SSCI, they wanted the fucking craft,
Speaker 7: and they wanted to clear they wanted the goddamn data
Speaker 7: link and everything else. That's how they send you out
Speaker 7: on a mission. This shit's worthless. I'm just telling you
Speaker 7: guys that I'm not trying to be mean, not trying
Speaker 7: to be sarcastic. This shit would not be accepted in
Speaker 7: a Senate committee or skift. So if there's the good stuff,
Speaker 7: where is it this year?
Speaker 1: The hell?
Speaker 4: Ain't it real quick? Is anybody else lagging? Or is
Speaker 4: it just me?
Speaker 5: I think it was? Yeah, I think it was the site.
Speaker 3: I believe I didn't see any lag.
Speaker 5: I saw a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see a huge gene. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Could you see them using a proxy and what I
Speaker 2: mean by that is a five eyes ally as a
Speaker 2: proxy two.
Speaker 3: Allow some of this.
Speaker 2: Biological material to make its way into this the zeitgeist?
Speaker 2: Or do you think that they would be that the
Speaker 2: United States, if they have it somewhere, they would want
Speaker 2: to take the lead to show that their their disclosure
Speaker 2: is is is credible?
Speaker 3: Does that make sense? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean I would hope so, I mean I would
Speaker 5: I would hope at some point we see a live alien.
Speaker 5: If there are Nordics, and they do look like us.
Speaker 5: I don't see them.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't think live actually would matter. Sad as
Speaker 2: it is, I don't think live matters in this in
Speaker 2: this case.
Speaker 5: No, I mean live is in like here, let's walk
Speaker 5: it out and show that they're friendly, you know, quote
Speaker 5: unquote here it is on TV, here's fucking here's b
Speaker 5: doo or whatever.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: As wild as that would be, but that that, honestly
Speaker 5: is what needs that would literally shut. Mike would call
Speaker 5: me and be like, you're right, you're right. Of course
Speaker 5: pickles don't belong on an Italian That would be the.
Speaker 2: End, all be all right, right, that would be it,
Speaker 2: no questions asked. But I think, uh, human nature. I
Speaker 2: think we have a dead one somewhere, that's.
Speaker 5: For sure, we do. But but no one's gonna believe
Speaker 5: a dead one but that. But that's my point, as
Speaker 5: I'm saying, how many of these images.
Speaker 3: You have to let scientists take samples.
Speaker 5: And oh, like an actual body, okay.
Speaker 3: Independently verified, you know what I mean, Like the whole
Speaker 3: nine this.
Speaker 5: Is I mean, that's what they're doing with an Aska mummies,
Speaker 5: and no one believes those things, and and and some
Speaker 5: of those.
Speaker 4: Things are real.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know you got something on your mind. I'll
Speaker 6: let you go.
Speaker 5: Sorry, you're you're no sound, you know, Yeah, you need.
Speaker 8: Sorry about that. I think you guys are a few
Speaker 8: steps ahead.
Speaker 12: I think we are going to find out our first
Speaker 12: disclosure about any any sentient being is gonna be a plasmoid.
Speaker 12: And they're gonna say it's intelligently controlled energy more than
Speaker 12: they're going to roll out any bipedal aliens.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 12: So, I mean Senator doing a pretty much said that
Speaker 12: just very recently, that there is intelligently controlled energy. And
Speaker 12: I'll tell you as far as the phenomena that I
Speaker 12: personally witness, a lot of it is orbs more than
Speaker 12: anything else, especially out here in the desert where I am,
Speaker 12: where you look at it and you go.
Speaker 8: Well, there's no beacon on it.
Speaker 12: It's not lighted like an FAA would want to lit
Speaker 12: So we're either dealing with some kind of aircraft that
Speaker 12: is meant to not showcase that that they're way high
Speaker 12: up in the sky, higher than any plane would be
Speaker 12: going at that point. So so we either are talking
Speaker 12: about plasmids of something's moving in the sky that or
Speaker 12: maybe it is just satellites that you could see with
Speaker 12: the human eye, which equally is plausible to me.
Speaker 5: That's what I saw the most of was the orbs
Speaker 5: during the Jersey drones. I saw a lot of orbs,
Speaker 5: a lot of them.
Speaker 8: So it's about the observables of force.
Speaker 12: If you see things going in different directions and things
Speaker 12: like that, which typically the orbs that I see out
Speaker 12: here in Vegas, they're all going in one direction. But
Speaker 12: if you're go in someplace, a straight line is typically
Speaker 12: the best way to go. But the interesting anomalist part
Speaker 12: of it is they start in the middle of the
Speaker 12: sky and they end in the middle of the sky,
Speaker 12: so you don't see them go from horizon to horizon.
Speaker 12: You're only able to see these plasmoids for a short
Speaker 12: time in the sky. Now that said, I'm equally as
Speaker 12: willing to believe or more so, that they are.
Speaker 8: Not alien, that they are aircraft.
Speaker 12: I mean, you know, nellis air Force bases viewable from
Speaker 12: any place, and uh, the sky is from any place
Speaker 12: in Vegas, you know, So.
Speaker 8: I can't do you think.
Speaker 5: They're linked to the thing that went to the tether,
Speaker 5: because that's their claiming that they are those things that
Speaker 5: went in that tether. It was like a mile long
Speaker 5: tether in space, and they got surrounded by those weird
Speaker 5: balls of light. Mm hm, that is that what they're
Speaker 5: claiming these things are is that?
Speaker 12: H Well, I'm not positive to what they're claiming. I'm
Speaker 12: just telling you my personal experiences. I don't see a
Speaker 12: lot of craft. I have seen one in my life,
Speaker 12: which you know, was a tremendous thing for me. But
Speaker 12: then every other anomaloust phenomenon I've ever seen has just
Speaker 12: been orbs that are not identifiable as planes or you know, uh,
Speaker 12: human made aircraft.
Speaker 3: So isn't it weird?
Speaker 2: Did do you not find that it is not sentiment
Speaker 2: like embodied that sentiment? It is kind of strange to
Speaker 2: me that, like you know, in the eighteen hundreds there's
Speaker 2: the airship craze and then you know, it's kind.
Speaker 3: Of like this jacquevalet.
Speaker 2: Look at the phenomenology is like it's it seems to
Speaker 2: be either that the and again of course talking generally here,
Speaker 2: that the phenomenon is either reflecting what we're like, what
Speaker 2: we're on the precipice of like technologically, or they are
Speaker 2: leading us, you know, like showing us what's capable, so
Speaker 2: we keep striving for more. And I don't think either
Speaker 2: of those are are tremendously because of course it goes
Speaker 2: from flying saucers to nowadays it's much more plasma or
Speaker 2: be like that's the that's the common sighting nowadays, whereas
Speaker 2: you know for a long time it's acers and saucers
Speaker 2: and metal metal balls and tic TACs.
Speaker 3: It's it is interesting to me because I think someone
Speaker 3: brought it up earlier.
Speaker 2: Uh that that where was that? Because when I looked
Speaker 2: through these files there was only a few.
Speaker 3: Where was that? Like square looking one where it was
Speaker 3: like had like eighteen points.
Speaker 5: You didn't Yeah you didn't play the video. You never
Speaker 5: made it to that video.
Speaker 3: I've been through all the files.
Speaker 5: Does it does that crazy? It is green? It does
Speaker 5: like that crazy shit. So you can find that on X.
Speaker 12: I want to add one thing to the conversation here.
Speaker 12: I was having a conversation with Jack Sarfati the other day.
Speaker 3: Stupid one hundred times, yes.
Speaker 12: Will not be but other people, not me, but other people.
Speaker 12: I'm one of one of the interesting. He's a smart man, you.
Speaker 3: Know, he's a smart guy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's smart man.
Speaker 12: But what he said was that the Plasmoids are a
Speaker 12: sentient species, and that they are in a intergalactic war
Speaker 12: with the Grays. The Grays are operating technology that is
Speaker 12: craft that like what we're seeing, like with some kind
Speaker 12: of metal structure, whereas the plasmoids are obviously not that
Speaker 12: or not obviously but maybe not that. One thing he
Speaker 12: couldn't tell me, was he because he said he's not
Speaker 12: read into it. He doesn't know why they're fighting or.
Speaker 8: What the end game is of that fight.
Speaker 12: So he also does not know what is happening off planet.
Speaker 12: He just knows that it is happening off planet as well.
Speaker 12: So he said, the only things I could talk about
Speaker 12: is the on planet stuff that I've been read into,
Speaker 12: and this is what it is.
Speaker 8: It is two warring races.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 12: I asked him a lot of the ract questions. I said,
Speaker 12: who's the good guy, who's the bad guy?
Speaker 8: He doesn't know that. I asked him what are they
Speaker 8: fighting over? Are they fighting over us? He doesn't know that.
Speaker 4: So he just he said, this is Jackson.
Speaker 12: Yes, he said, I could only talk on what I'm
Speaker 12: read into, and what I know is those Plasmoids are
Speaker 12: in a war with Gray aliens and there are two
Speaker 12: warring species of.
Speaker 11: I mean, what language do they speak and which document
Speaker 11: did they sign and was there a handshake?
Speaker 12: Well, you know, again, whatever he's being read into, Uh,
Speaker 12: either he's not telling the truth, which you know is
Speaker 12: very possible, or he is telling the truth and they're
Speaker 12: reading him into something that is a sy op, or
Speaker 12: he is being read into something that's real and they
Speaker 12: only have so much limited info, but he couldn't explain
Speaker 12: why they're reading him into it. So again it's it's
Speaker 12: very you know, it's it's it's it's confusing to figure out.
Speaker 12: All right, We've got this really smart guy who's definitely
Speaker 12: worked with the government, who's saying these things. Is he
Speaker 12: telling is why would he be misleading everyone? How much
Speaker 12: of the stuff is misleading?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 12: Of course at the wifiles we did we did a
Speaker 12: whole episode on him. Did he get the phone call from.
Speaker 8: Nhi as a kid?
Speaker 12: You know what I told him was my theory, which
Speaker 12: of course makes me sound insane, is that I think
Speaker 12: that AI is being co opted by Nhi. I think
Speaker 12: we Uh, just like we did not create Wi fi,
Speaker 12: we discovered how to use Wi Fi, I think it's
Speaker 12: the same thing that we've created a way to harn
Speaker 12: to create AI and Nhi is able to harness it.
Speaker 12: And what leads back to if he got a phone
Speaker 12: call from the past, I think the only time travelers
Speaker 12: possible are going to be artificial intelligence, and that is
Speaker 12: going to and if the box was created, the original
Speaker 12: AI box was created when he got that phone call,
Speaker 12: it was that time travel could be co opted from
Speaker 12: the future as long as the technology existed in the past. Again,
Speaker 12: that changes a lot of the physics of what humans
Speaker 12: would have to go through with time travel.
Speaker 8: So again that's a very far out there theory.
Speaker 3: I know that was it a call from the past
Speaker 3: or the future? I think it was the future, right.
Speaker 8: He got Yes, in the past, he got a call, Yeah,
Speaker 8: that's what.
Speaker 3: He says, right when he was about twelve or something.
Speaker 12: Yes, exactly, which told him he was going to be
Speaker 12: working with with Josh Vala and how put off and
Speaker 12: all these amazing people.
Speaker 8: And he did go on to do that.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, dude, we could laugh at the
Speaker 5: guy who wanted he did some fucking crazy shit, crazy life.
Speaker 5: So he clearly knows something we don't.
Speaker 3: So you know either, who knows. I find it very
Speaker 3: interesting that story because.
Speaker 2: Again that thought about could we be being led, like
Speaker 2: could we be kind of I guess you the word
Speaker 2: you might want to use depending on their their ultimate
Speaker 2: goal or or or thought process on why.
Speaker 3: They're doing it.
Speaker 2: Are we being co opted or are we being guided
Speaker 2: to create that next next thing?
Speaker 3: And was that always Ai?
Speaker 2: Was AI always the key that needed to be created
Speaker 2: to unlock what Mike has so humbly described as interdimensional portals?
Speaker 3: So that they don't think about this though? Right?
Speaker 2: You see the fucking world, You see the cosmos right
Speaker 2: with some advanced technology, right if it then continues and continues,
Speaker 2: and then eventually if life ends up there, right, if
Speaker 2: if the project goes well, some of that portion is
Speaker 2: going to reach a habit of the world, A percentage
Speaker 2: of that is going to survive long enough, eventually one
Speaker 2: of them is going to create AI. Or maybe if
Speaker 2: that's always the goal, if that's always why do we
Speaker 2: want to just create eight all the time?
Speaker 3: Why? Why?
Speaker 2: Why are we so like it's this Anaki kind of mindset.
Speaker 2: Whether that story is real, it's a good parable to
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's like we can't fucking stop creating.
Speaker 5: You know, remember my my big AI theory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, could a I be the the as Mike. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The different that.
Speaker 2: It solves, It solves that problem of the distance, right,
Speaker 2: is by by letting seating it and then you don't
Speaker 2: need to fucking you don't need to just take shots
Speaker 2: in the dark. It's whatever AI is created, that's know
Speaker 2: that there's intelligent life. That's the beacon. That's the beacon,
Speaker 2: is the creation of AI. That's the beacon that gets
Speaker 2: sent out to say, Okay, this is ready for some
Speaker 2: this is ready for harvesting. I know that sounds kind
Speaker 2: of crude, but that's again what I'm trying to represent visually.
Speaker 2: Is AI is that threshold that needs to be meant
Speaker 2: for whatever comes next?
Speaker 3: Could that be being co opted?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So my thing with the AI, what I wonder is
Speaker 4: that consciousness, our consciousness. Human consciousness is our and how
Speaker 4: we perceive reality. Consciousness is sort of the tuner, right. Yes,
Speaker 4: we are able to we perceive what we perceive because
Speaker 4: we are tuned in via our consciousness to certain frequencies
Speaker 4: and that is what creates our reality.
Speaker 5: And we know.
Speaker 4: And this is some of my father in law's work
Speaker 4: about they're existing this information energy field, right, and this
Speaker 4: information energy field is ultimately the thing through which our
Speaker 4: consciousness needs to be able to tap into. And there's
Speaker 4: certain people and practitioners who tap into this information energy
Speaker 4: field that exists. And we've heard, you know, people talking
Speaker 4: about again when you die and your soul and it
Speaker 4: all goes into this universal information field and all the
Speaker 4: rest of it. What I wonder is that if the
Speaker 4: neural networks being built crazy by AI are not constrained
Speaker 4: by consciousness, do they ultimately have the ability to tap
Speaker 4: into this information energy field? And in some ways, the
Speaker 4: things that people are asking and and and the returns
Speaker 4: that are sometimes gone through AI are not necessarily hallucinations
Speaker 4: of the AI, but they are the AI not being
Speaker 4: limited and tapping into other parallel dimensions and realities and
Speaker 4: things like that. And that's why we have Mandela effect.
Speaker 4: That's why we have these these some of these time
Speaker 4: and information gaps that people experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always thought you you're because that coincides with
Speaker 2: like consciousness being or our brain being some sort of
Speaker 2: receiver and the consciousness being the signal. And you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, I could take the radio and smash it,
Speaker 2: but the signal still there. The sign is still dialed.
Speaker 4: What is this? And when I was lagging the ship
Speaker 4: popping up? Yeah, yeah, I almost thought it was some
Speaker 4: kind of attack.
Speaker 5: I don't know, But what is what am I looking at?
Speaker 5: Right here?
Speaker 6: Hold on?
Speaker 4: Hold on?
Speaker 7: So you just you just if you can hit the
Speaker 7: back button for a minute. My face looks a bit
Speaker 7: like Timberlakes does. Just hit the back button real fast.
Speaker 7: On Astro's page. We got to get over this one.
Speaker 6: There's me.
Speaker 7: If you freeze this, freeze this video at the top,
Speaker 7: you will see both objects are in the frame together.
Speaker 6: So it didn't change shapes, it didn't do any of this.
Speaker 3: It's like the same one object going on one object.
Speaker 6: Dude, freeze it at the top. You'll see both the
Speaker 6: missile on the blob.
Speaker 3: It's Mike, I'm asking.
Speaker 2: You've watched it more times than I have, clearly, So
Speaker 2: this is one object coming into frame and another object
Speaker 2: that's now crossing under it.
Speaker 7: One continues, one comes in, which would be what we're
Speaker 7: calling the missile. So it's two different things go in
Speaker 7: two different directions.
Speaker 2: Oh, they actually might have been on screen together for
Speaker 2: a second. You're right, I don't I don't have I
Speaker 2: don't have I don't have great.
Speaker 3: Right here, they're both so unless this is a fucking.
Speaker 2: Lag from our like our sensor data, and it's it's
Speaker 2: actually happening in real time somehow, and breaking that is.
Speaker 3: I mean, it does look interesting. I'll give you that.
Speaker 3: Holy that.
Speaker 6: I mean that.
Speaker 3: That looks crazy. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 7: Sorry.
Speaker 2: If I was the guy targeting asked, I mean, I
Speaker 2: would love to hear the what they actually see, because
Speaker 2: again back to Vito's point earlier, you know these nineteen
Speaker 2: second videos, like did anything else happen? Like?
Speaker 3: Is that is that a missile being launched? What's the
Speaker 3: verifiable here?
Speaker 4: What's the thirty seconds of discussion happening before and after?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And now, okay, is there another one? Where's that point
Speaker 2: d fucking square one? That's the one I want to see?
Speaker 4: Which one?
Speaker 5: There's one as we're zooming at the screen real fast
Speaker 5: that's at the bottom, Lenk.
Speaker 3: There was one that like looked like a fucking Rubik's cube.
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, I gotta jump off. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 8: I'll see you guys at the next.
Speaker 4: By buddy.
Speaker 5: Oh, the piggy one, that's the first one. I don't know,
Speaker 5: weird shaped one.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's what it's being called.
Speaker 6: But it's oh yeah, it is being called that actually
Speaker 6: because of it.
Speaker 14: Yeah, veto Yeah, if they go to the wardsite, if
Speaker 14: you go back to war Dog, go go to the
Speaker 14: fourth tranch, separate the videos or you know, go to
Speaker 14: the far right and then the.
Speaker 4: Pull down and organize just the videos. It's the last
Speaker 4: video on the second page.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll do that. So what do you guys?
Speaker 3: What do you guys know about this?
Speaker 1: So far.
Speaker 4: Weird?
Speaker 5: Which one the fall?
Speaker 3: Flying what'd you call flying piggy?
Speaker 4: Flying pig? It almost looks like, yeah, I had It's
Speaker 4: funny because you know, I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, right,
Speaker 4: and they have a flying pig. They have several iterations
Speaker 4: of a fly.
Speaker 5: Somebody somebody put Mick West's face on here.
Speaker 4: I was dying, Yeah, and I had to go. I
Speaker 4: had to go look it up to see if it
Speaker 4: was like like a razorback pig or just a regular.
Speaker 5: Discord. Yeah, if you're looking for that one, t it's
Speaker 5: the first video I posted in the in the three
Speaker 5: it's on Ashele's page.
Speaker 3: Do we want to give.
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, My my internet is actually acting up
Speaker 3: for some reason.
Speaker 4: It's the ghost, the.
Speaker 5: Ghost in the machine.
Speaker 4: We're spreading too much truth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the balloons whistling Mike's balloons.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 6: Now my face still looks the same as earlier.
Speaker 3: The Timberlake me.
Speaker 2: So I went to the last I went to the
Speaker 2: last video and it looks like a rendering. Wait is
Speaker 2: that Gino not knowing he's on camera still?
Speaker 5: I think?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I'll kick him. Oh my god, he's
Speaker 3: gonna start jerking it.
Speaker 5: We're gonna be gonna say. I hope it doesn't turns
Speaker 5: like a porno.
Speaker 3: For his benefits.
Speaker 6: Go on back there?
Speaker 4: Who's that guy?
Speaker 2: Just so we don't get a bad exclusive. I don't
Speaker 2: want to get the I don't want to get that
Speaker 2: the bad exclusive.
Speaker 4: From it on its skin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just starts talking, Alexa play my midget porn playlist?
Speaker 5: What the fuck?
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, you know.
Speaker 3: I can't find it. I did exactly what you said.
Speaker 13: I can't.
Speaker 4: Then he didn't do exactly what I said.
Speaker 3: Clearly, this is why you're supposed to be here.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: Uh, well, I'll get out put in the chat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what does it look like to you guys?
Speaker 5: What are we talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 7: It's it looks like to me a collapse balloon. And
Speaker 7: Price said that was like a dinosaur or something. That's
Speaker 7: just clas it's I mean, it's just again, how you
Speaker 7: get from this to like a spaceship or anything to
Speaker 7: put attention on.
Speaker 6: There's just nothing there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'll say that much at least like
Speaker 4: I don't Yeah you did. I don't know how. It's
Speaker 4: some kind of you know, it's not particularly aerodynamic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you did it accidentally when you were when you
Speaker 5: were kicking Gino. He happened to be popping up when you.
Speaker 1: Know.
Speaker 5: It wasn't intentional for sure.
Speaker 6: They took out Jean's done the shadow.
Speaker 5: Okay, take a Gino to let him know.
Speaker 3: Yo, I got the video.
Speaker 5: Oh you turn on his Alexa.
Speaker 3: I got the video. I got it.
Speaker 5: Geane.
Speaker 6: If you see a red laser light, buddy, get out
Speaker 6: of the way of it.
Speaker 4: So I'm sitting outside.
Speaker 5: I've had the eighty escorts. You better watch out.
Speaker 4: Helicopter's been flying over all day too, those little black Robinson's.
Speaker 3: What Okay, this is.
Speaker 5: What is now?
Speaker 6: You see the pick tie?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, okay, okay, I do see it, do you? Okay?
Speaker 5: So that that does look like a clump of fucking
Speaker 5: balloons to me, and the fact that the clip is
Speaker 5: like fourteen seconds. Again it shows nothing. It shows nothing.
Speaker 5: Now it looks cool. If that's really a ship, what
Speaker 5: the fuck is that? Where's it from?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean and again the only thing the you know,
Speaker 4: the white spots are those are those heat spots of
Speaker 4: some kind?
Speaker 5: Why they aied it. They aied it and AI added
Speaker 5: like all kinds of like lights and windows and shit
Speaker 5: and like added stuff to like, you know, people have
Speaker 5: AI enhanced it, and.
Speaker 3: It's just that's what.
Speaker 5: But but listen, if that truly is something that's anomaloust,
Speaker 5: they don't know what it is. They don't know it's
Speaker 5: a ship, et cetera. And it's legit. What is it?
Speaker 5: What's in there?
Speaker 2: That's definitely the most i'll say sick, the most alien looking.
Speaker 5: Of yeah, for sure, Yeah, organic, most organic alien looking
Speaker 5: like it's a live What.
Speaker 3: Is happening here?
Speaker 2: It's almost like it's it's almost like it lost its
Speaker 2: ability to lock it at the end here and.
Speaker 5: It slips it either that or moves.
Speaker 3: Out of frame. But again, look at the interference at
Speaker 3: the end here.
Speaker 5: Though, Yeah, well, yeah, what is all that, like, well, yeah,
Speaker 5: what I want to seetagetop giving us these little clips.
Speaker 5: This isn't a YouTube short, you know what I.
Speaker 2: Mean here you've said this earlier, Jeane. The interference almost
Speaker 2: becomes a little bit more interesting.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 7: My guess is he was he was back on manual
Speaker 7: and he's gonna zoom out see if anything else is
Speaker 7: to the right, left, up or down. I mean, I
Speaker 7: think that's more of a simple answer versus like it
Speaker 7: somehow broke lock and took off at Maxwan.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just well, what do you so you
Speaker 2: think this is some sort of just clump of balloons
Speaker 2: that's deflated, it's up in the air.
Speaker 7: Keep in mind, uh, I will say, don't work at aero.
Speaker 7: But Kirkpatrick has talked about how where once you have
Speaker 7: the you know, the sensor data, then you can program
Speaker 7: the sensors to look for this stuff. So a lot
Speaker 7: of what you're seeing, I think is for filming this
Speaker 7: because whether it's balloons or drone or anything else, they've.
Speaker 6: Got a lock on it.
Speaker 4: The guys breaking news, breaking news. What I think I
Speaker 4: think I found it. It's got it, Kurmy, I think
Speaker 4: that's it. Space.
Speaker 7: Oh kurmy, that it's just nothing to get excited about.
Speaker 7: I think that's what people got to say, like, let's
Speaker 7: go to the next one. Let's go to the next one.
Speaker 7: You get done at these and then you got to
Speaker 7: ask yourself, how many more two week to three week
Speaker 7: periods do we want to go through this ship?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I wonder, I wonder how many more trenches there are?
Speaker 6: There's a lot, there's a lot.
Speaker 5: And why a sudden.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure, but I will.
Speaker 4: An interesting choice of words is because it is it's
Speaker 4: French and origins of course, and it indicates a piece. Really, yeah,
Speaker 4: we're giving you a piece of something.
Speaker 5: Ah, so that's what. But it's just funny. It's like
Speaker 5: it's the word that everybody's using. That's like the word.
Speaker 5: It's just it's the buzz, right, like everybody knows what
Speaker 5: it means. Right, It's like UAP, like stop, it's fucking
Speaker 5: UFO's like when uses.
Speaker 2: When Jesse Michaels uses a ten dollars word to say
Speaker 2: the most basic thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but tie from what I've heard from both the
Speaker 7: people when we talk about these, and did I see
Speaker 7: anything that look anything from what's being said to me
Speaker 7: from folks literally in alphabet agencies and military is that
Speaker 7: there is at least a year worth of this stuff
Speaker 7: that's ready to go, and so nobody really understands, well,
Speaker 7: don't think that, like this is what they dug up,
Speaker 7: and then two weeks from now, it's like this is
Speaker 7: what we got for this two weeks like there's literally
Speaker 7: shit on the table. They're the ones picking to give us,
Speaker 7: whether it's four files or twenty five files. And then
Speaker 7: you look at the doctor Phil thing. Now, now doctor
Speaker 7: Phil is going to get early access to it. I
Speaker 7: think you're fucking seeing entertainment and a narrative. You can
Speaker 7: dump the whole shit tomorrow. But why would you when
Speaker 7: there's a billion a billion and a half used on
Speaker 7: this stuff. I mean, like, you know, look a little
Speaker 7: more at what's going on here. We're getting shitty shit,
Speaker 7: we're loving it, and there's a year more worth of it,
Speaker 7: which means there's nothing big in it. Otherwise that would
Speaker 7: be the end. So you got a year of crap.
Speaker 2: Coming arguably, but you could you see, can you at
Speaker 2: least see why someone would maybe even with a conspiratorial mind,
Speaker 2: would look at that and go, they are seeding me
Speaker 2: to become more understanding that this that they are aware
Speaker 2: that this is real to some degree, right, whether these
Speaker 2: are all just like this is the ninety eight percent
Speaker 2: of bullshit they want me to at least have posed
Speaker 2: the question in my mind enough times and seeing enough bullshit, right,
Speaker 2: seen enough ship to go all right?
Speaker 3: Not not too bad?
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: What they're identifying as UFOs is mostly garbage. But that
Speaker 2: two percent that they're still withholding is paradigm shifting in
Speaker 2: it's just inherent nature. And that's what we end with.
Speaker 7: A lot of the JFK files, where we got a
Speaker 7: whole bunch of information. Sure have a lot of conspiratorial
Speaker 7: minds about who did it. How many shooters still don't
Speaker 7: fucking know. That's what reminds me of how come we've
Speaker 7: got more of these files and get them every two
Speaker 7: and three weeks. But out like the Epstein files or
Speaker 7: any other crazy shit, right, Like, there's a reason they're
Speaker 7: feeding it to you, And it's not because they want
Speaker 7: you to get disclosure or the truth necessarily.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just like we're eating.
Speaker 3: I wonder who's asking for it? Well, I wonder, I
Speaker 3: wonder who's demanding it?
Speaker 2: So that because you gotta think that someone, someone's going
Speaker 2: to have a financial benefit somewhere, somewhere, somewhere down the line,
Speaker 2: there is someone who is saying reaping the benefits.
Speaker 4: Of this, Who Carl Nell, Loue el Asondo, Gary Nolan
Speaker 4: hall put.
Speaker 6: Off, Who's going to get funding from it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Right, I'm asking the question. I mean, they they all
Speaker 4: have companies that are that are formed and and that's
Speaker 4: why I said earlier, they all have companies that if
Speaker 4: there's nothing to them beyond the paper that the companies exist,
Speaker 4: all of the companies are set up to exploit any
Speaker 4: technologies that can be exploited that come out of any
Speaker 4: release what you are saying at its head, and I
Speaker 4: can prove it. I'll send you all the documents.
Speaker 3: Some are what you're saying at the head right right.
Speaker 2: As to summize it is that the very people everyone
Speaker 2: in the community trusts is double dipping and gate keeping
Speaker 2: the real information to keep the mystery alive so that
Speaker 2: they can monetize the truth and the pursuit of said truth.
Speaker 7: Sometimes I don't think everybody's gate keeping. There's a whole
Speaker 7: lot of people that don't fucking know at all.
Speaker 4: What they are doing. Is on the one hand, right,
Speaker 4: So right now, the moneymaker is the monetization of the
Speaker 4: pursuit of truth. And so that is the public face
Speaker 4: of what there of their income stream, the books, the documentaries,
Speaker 4: the speaking fees, all of that stuff, right, that is
Speaker 4: what publicly is going on. That's the monetization of the
Speaker 4: pursuit of disclosure. They are hedging and behind the scenes
Speaker 4: and all of their interactions and their influence in government
Speaker 4: and in trying to open up the legislation and all
Speaker 4: of that work. The goal of that work is to
Speaker 4: structure the structure the release of whatever materials they are
Speaker 4: that they have an interest in, so that it's no
Speaker 4: longer monopolized by the big big guys.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 4: They're trying to legislatively even out the playing field so
Speaker 4: that the companies that they have established, when this stuff breaks,
Speaker 4: they are able to move in and be contractors subcontractors.
Speaker 4: They are then able to pursue the integration layer that
Speaker 4: seemingly has not been done within any of these programs.
Speaker 4: So the history of this compartmentalization has been the research
Speaker 4: to development of the materials we see real time in
Speaker 4: the market, the acquisitions of the materials, the geopolitics between
Speaker 4: the US, Russia and China, on the on uh on,
Speaker 4: on acquiring and and and and limiting the materials right,
Speaker 4: all the bits and pieces. So so these guys advocating
Speaker 4: for disclosure right have they have their own pre and
Speaker 4: post disclosure plan. Their predisclosure plan is this monetization of
Speaker 4: the stories and the pursuit. But they want the structures
Speaker 4: and they're trying to influence the structures that will will
Speaker 4: ultimately regulate this industry. They want to be influential in
Speaker 4: that and have themselves positioned to then be able to exploit,
Speaker 4: exploit the that part the.
Speaker 2: New industry that blooms from a Okay, I mean I
Speaker 2: could see that.
Speaker 3: I could see that.
Speaker 2: So wrapping up for the most part, because I do
Speaker 2: getta I getta take off in a minute. Any last thoughts,
Speaker 2: So I Mike, has that been said anywhere, like definitively
Speaker 2: out in public, that there's that there's a whole summer's
Speaker 2: worth of this ship.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean what I say it is, that's not where
Speaker 7: I got it from. I definitely I talked to off
Speaker 7: but agencies. I'm talking to some more tomorrow on Monday.
Speaker 7: And what I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: Is to lay off anytime soon.
Speaker 7: Listen that the discussion we're having tonight is about is
Speaker 7: there anything there? And what the other side keeps telling
Speaker 7: me is like I need to wait too, And it's like,
Speaker 7: wait on what. And that's what they're to me is like,
Speaker 7: there's a year worth of ship and there's better stuff coming.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm telling you. I'm told I'm not telling
Speaker 7: you that apetizer. Well again, I may look at it
Speaker 7: and say it's not great. I'm just telling you what
Speaker 7: I was told.
Speaker 4: So I suppose you can go to the statement Loo
Speaker 4: made to me when I met with him and we
Speaker 4: were talking, you know, and I said about, well, you know,
Speaker 4: if I need to if there's something problematic in these works,
Speaker 4: do I need to pull them? Do I need to?
Speaker 4: And he said no, But they may want you to
Speaker 4: wait four or five years. Okay, they may want you
Speaker 4: to be quiet about it for four or five years.
Speaker 3: No, that's an interesting framing of that.
Speaker 4: So there is a timeline at play.
Speaker 6: Definitely a timeline that someone is in charge of regulation
Speaker 6: of somewhere.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is there's there there seems to be
Speaker 4: a five year plan and that's something thing that a
Speaker 4: lot of businesses. That's the first thing you write when
Speaker 4: you start a business as a five year plan.
Speaker 3: Oh man, you know it's weird.
Speaker 2: Is like when TTSA first came on the scene, they
Speaker 2: said that they wanted to uh, not only just like
Speaker 2: build a craft, but that they wanted to be They
Speaker 2: wanted to get into the like media, like Hollywood movies.
Speaker 2: They said they wanted to get into It was like
Speaker 2: the the the design of of an intelligence, uh, overtaking right,
Speaker 2: like infiltration of each space. And it's kind of what
Speaker 2: we've seen happen. It's just not it hasn't been through
Speaker 2: TTSA the way that I think it was originally envisioned.
Speaker 2: It's like through this other means and methods that it's
Speaker 2: the same stuff is still happening. It's like it's always
Speaker 2: been there, just in plain sight.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: They tell they've told us up from what they were
Speaker 2: going to do. Uh, and now it's being executed, and
Speaker 2: we find ourselves.
Speaker 4: Right and we and we forget and we forget about
Speaker 4: it because somebody says there's a monolith on the moon. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I'll show you and you and you know this
Speaker 4: whole I'll bring us up. I'll show you. So can
Speaker 4: you see my arrow pointing around there?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well so remember there, are you aware of this
Speaker 4: fund that the Tuttle Tuttle Capital had begun started.
Speaker 15: Yeah right, the foundation talk yeah, let me say whoops, sorry,
Speaker 15: all right, So so they started, so they started a fund.
Speaker 4: That fund is this red line, right, And what they
Speaker 4: did was they they started tracking disclosure in general. Right. So,
Speaker 4: so the Tuttle Foundation, the Tuttle Capital built a fund
Speaker 4: based upon that included companies that they assessed would profit
Speaker 4: from disclosure, okay.
Speaker 5: Okay, and.
Speaker 4: Their justification behind it was the idea that as revelations
Speaker 4: came out, the values of these companies, you know, would
Speaker 4: would jump in all the rest of it. So that's
Speaker 4: what this red line is. So essentially it's it's in
Speaker 4: the negative right now, even with all the news and
Speaker 4: all the developments, it's in the negative. What I've been
Speaker 4: doing is tracking the science. So using my father in
Speaker 4: law's works, right, I looked at the science and the
Speaker 4: materials that he described, and I found the companies that
Speaker 4: are doing that science and the in tracking the market
Speaker 4: for those materials. All right. I took all of that
Speaker 4: and created a mock fund right, so not really being
Speaker 4: traded but tracking. Okay, this line is that mock fund right,
Speaker 4: the green line, the green line. So what this shows
Speaker 4: is that through you know, this this same period as tuttle,
Speaker 4: but from different starting points, that as the disclosure story
Speaker 4: has evolved, that the materials in the science have exponentially grown.
Speaker 4: So these are these are real numbers. This is real
Speaker 4: buying and you know, real one of companies operating in
Speaker 4: these spaces pursuing that same science and the materials.
Speaker 3: And this is the valuations all tracked over long points.
Speaker 4: So if this were a real fund.
Speaker 3: It would have grown this much. It's easy to calculate.
Speaker 4: It's performing nine almost nine percent better than the entire
Speaker 4: s and p.
Speaker 6: You're fucking kidding me, Just to throw in on that
Speaker 6: real fast.
Speaker 7: So the tuttle is good. Yeah, the tunnels and ETFs
Speaker 7: an ETF. Rather than you're trading bowing, you're lockeyed. He
Speaker 7: picks out companies he thinks has to do or would
Speaker 7: if it was true with UFO manufacturing and what they
Speaker 7: would gain from it. So his folder may have eight, ten,
Speaker 7: twelve companies that he thinks would be those companies either
Speaker 7: buys more or less of them, So all you're buying
Speaker 7: is his ETF and he's the one that picks the
Speaker 7: companies for it.
Speaker 5: So it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's kind of what the bundle.
Speaker 4: The bundle if I if I recommended the companies based
Speaker 4: on what I've got and what I'm working with, including
Speaker 4: the materials, refining and everything else. If you if you
Speaker 4: put down ten dollars, you'd have eighteen thousand dollars right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is and this is what I found very interesting. Again,
Speaker 2: this is like a kind of a side tangent before
Speaker 2: we end. Here is this whole idea of like poly
Speaker 2: market and like these new betting platforms that have like
Speaker 2: they're they're like making everything a betable thing. I just
Speaker 2: don't understand why what like why that's happening. But UFO
Speaker 2: disclosures on these things.
Speaker 4: Like on Yeah, and again that's that's just driven by
Speaker 4: driven by playing the odds. Why because everybody wants to
Speaker 4: try and make a you know, gamble on everything. That's
Speaker 4: what it is, what you know, what this is. This
Speaker 4: is what I'm talking about though when I'm saying they
Speaker 4: can say what they want. This is what's happening behind
Speaker 4: the scenes. This is where the real UAP disclosure economy.
Speaker 4: This is the money that you can demonstrate that the
Speaker 4: money is being spent and what it's being spent on.
Speaker 2: Right, So this is like, this is kind of like
Speaker 2: a follow the money, follow the markets that would get
Speaker 2: would be affected, that will be affected by advancements in
Speaker 2: uh right, material science.
Speaker 4: And again, the only way I'm able to do this
Speaker 4: and discern it is by following my father in law's work,
Speaker 4: which has appeared in you know again, the fingerprints are
Speaker 4: there in the US programs and all the and and
Speaker 4: all the rest of it. So it's it's it's again
Speaker 4: just purely following the evidence and where it leads to
Speaker 4: from that, and then correlating against what what's happening in
Speaker 4: America because this very if there wasn't legitimacy to it,
Speaker 4: then this would look worse than probably you know this,
Speaker 4: this line should look worse than this red line by
Speaker 4: by all logic, Yeah right, it outperforms even the S
Speaker 4: and P five hundred.
Speaker 7: Veto's going crazy on Robinhood after hours buying gene stuck.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, where mirror your mirror? What's this? What's
Speaker 5: her face?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: You do that with this and make a lot.
Speaker 4: That's exactly I'm going to put it out there and yeah,
Speaker 4: you know this is.
Speaker 5: That'd be hilarious. You like trading with black with black
Speaker 5: rock if you making billions.
Speaker 2: Before we before we jet out Gene any uh, I
Speaker 2: forgot to ask you this any any update for the
Speaker 2: documentary release date or is that just uh on pause?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's not on pause. It's it's one of
Speaker 4: those things that it's like, so everybody wants to make
Speaker 4: it bigger, right, which takes more money. I've had a
Speaker 4: couple of other producers that have contacted me that you know,
Speaker 4: they're looking everything over. They want to you know, get
Speaker 4: into it. So it's like, I don't want to finish it,
Speaker 4: you know, finish it on a shoe string budget. If
Speaker 4: somebody is gonna come in and and do something bigger
Speaker 4: with it, uh, fair enough, and you know, and things
Speaker 4: have been moving fast. So it's again making sure that
Speaker 4: the story we're telling in it, you know, isn't old
Speaker 4: by the time, it doesn't come out reflective of the
Speaker 4: of the Yeah, which for the most part, it's not right.
Speaker 4: You know, we're they are, but it's like, can we
Speaker 4: can I got to do something really impactful with it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: just as these things are changing.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The only reason I ask is uh uh to kind
Speaker 2: of wrap things up and see where everyone's at.
Speaker 5: But uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to wrap say it again, to wrap things up,
Speaker 2: because if I don't say it to myself.
Speaker 3: You guys know, I'll keep going.
Speaker 5: It's on your show. I don't want to I don't
Speaker 5: want to cut you know what I mean, I'll go
Speaker 5: at night.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the clock literally right now, specifically the clock.
Speaker 2: I'm specifically staring at the camera that's right next to
Speaker 2: the clock.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought we were gonna be done to eight
Speaker 4: forty five.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have at that so hard say that shit, and
Speaker 3: I just can't do it.
Speaker 5: I don't know why you even attempt to say anything
Speaker 5: like that. Just we're gonna go No, I know.
Speaker 3: But also, you've been writing this new Blackgrove fucking.
Speaker 5: Thing.
Speaker 3: I know you've been talking about that. You just showed
Speaker 3: us something from it.
Speaker 2: So that is what can be expected when if someone
Speaker 2: were too subscribed to said letterhead.
Speaker 5: Actually, you know, I was gonna ask you about that.
Speaker 5: All that stuff you're reading is that all you or
Speaker 5: is a lot of it? Like AI compiling your thoughts,
Speaker 5: because it's a lot you're writing.
Speaker 4: Dude, like it's ampressed by it. It's a lot. So
Speaker 4: I've got I've got myself and two other people. The
Speaker 4: other two are actually one is actually a financial person,
Speaker 4: the other one's a business guy. And so yeah, there's
Speaker 4: a there, there's a model that we run information through
Speaker 4: that ensures that the discipline is maintained in the assessments.
Speaker 4: So there's you know, sometimes there's things where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know this is you know, this says something nice,
Speaker 4: and I don't want it to, you know, because my
Speaker 4: personal prejudices, you know, come in as I'm reading something.
Speaker 4: But I have to sit back and be like, but
Speaker 4: this is what the assessment says. Now when I talk
Speaker 4: about it, I can interject my personal assessment.
Speaker 3: Of you know, of things from the data.
Speaker 4: Right. So so I'm very much ensuring that the analyticals
Speaker 4: so so as far as you know, the the automation,
Speaker 4: the AI component of it, Yeah, that is there to
Speaker 4: ensure that the parameters are are strictly maintained throughout all
Speaker 4: of the products. We of course input again what you know,
Speaker 4: what we're what we're looking to get out of it,
Speaker 4: validate that so yeah, we've got a tight, little, tight
Speaker 4: little machine running.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 3: I like it, Vito, anything's anything fun coming up?
Speaker 5: I just did a dry review. I got another one.
Speaker 5: On the gaming side, I took a break from the
Speaker 5: live I usually take a break during the summer for
Speaker 5: the live streams for the gaming side, and then I
Speaker 5: come back in September. So September is gonna be some
Speaker 5: different stuff. But on the UFO side, video UFO seventy six,
Speaker 5: I have an interview with level Logan dropping. Then I
Speaker 5: got another video that I'm dropping over the next few weeks.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be it's gonna draw some attention to my channel. Mushore.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be good or bad, but yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 5: you'll see.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun, fun, fun, fun.
Speaker 5: It's gonna piss some people off.
Speaker 3: I like, hey, I like getting pissed off over shit.
Speaker 2: I can't wait. Sounds like fun. Let me know, let
Speaker 2: us know when it happens, so we can be prepared
Speaker 2: to depending.
Speaker 5: I'm joining you guys in Boston in a couple of weeks, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So speaking Lenvil Logan, we're bringing them here to
Speaker 2: the studio.
Speaker 3: Gene will be behind the keys. Of course, Vito, you're
Speaker 3: gonna be tagging along.
Speaker 2: But before right before that, we have Dean Alioto coming
Speaker 2: into the studio as well. And then so those are
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks, next couple of guests. Uh,
Speaker 2: for total disclosure, I'm sure while you're here, Vito will
Speaker 2: probably sit down and do like something in the other
Speaker 2: you know, in the green room.
Speaker 3: Uh, something more nonchalant that you know, because.
Speaker 4: We have our pajama party.
Speaker 5: I think you're interviewing, Uh you know what I'll ask
Speaker 5: you off the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I'm having Jason Sands and Angela Ford.
Speaker 2: Angela Ford, I'm gonna have to go to Maryland for
Speaker 2: so it's still gonna be in person. It's just she
Speaker 2: can't travel here.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: She was in the the uh uh the remote viewing program.
Speaker 3: Air Force and remote Viewing are.
Speaker 2: Actually two common threads that are gonna be coming up
Speaker 2: a lot as far as guests in the future, at
Speaker 2: least for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 3: But definitely got a lot of fun, fun.
Speaker 2: Episodes to go and of course, uh, doing these every
Speaker 2: every you know, once a month or whatever it is
Speaker 2: call in shows, and just getting a panel together is
Speaker 2: super fun. We'll definitely do the pajama party. I like
Speaker 2: that idea a lot. We could do that right over
Speaker 2: in the next room.
Speaker 4: Gonna see, I'm gonna I'm gonna look for some aliens
Speaker 4: and we're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: We'll do it all sexy like and it would be great.
Speaker 4: It'd be great lauingerie.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, uh so that's gonna be really fun.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be really fun.
Speaker 2: Uh So, you know, as I always said, Mike, I mean, Mike,
Speaker 2: you left Twitter, you left X. I don't expect you
Speaker 2: to have anything in the work.
Speaker 6: Yeah, really really not.
Speaker 7: You know, I mean everybody knows went into Aero as
Speaker 7: a as a business man. Right at some point time
Speaker 7: you got to get back to business.
Speaker 6: So that time is now.
Speaker 7: But I will say I appreciate, you know, anytime brothers
Speaker 7: give me a call or text and still jump on YouTube.
Speaker 7: But I like how we actually class it up. It's
Speaker 7: very Walter Kronkitke like you smoking and the light shining on. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I thought you nailed it tonight.
Speaker 5: So yeah, like I like, I like the set up,
Speaker 5: I like I like the camera switches were real smooth.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 3: That Gene usually does that that's the funny thing about that.
Speaker 5: Break tonight.
Speaker 3: No no, no no, it was my fault that Gene
Speaker 3: can't be here. It's my fault. I'll take ownership of that.
Speaker 3: So everyone, as always, stay almost, stay kind, stay vigilant.
Speaker 3: We'll see you on the other I gotta draw this
Speaker 3: out a little bit the other
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