Joe Rogan and Tom DeLonge-What Could of Been...To The Stars.

0:01 Speaker 1: I like the art bell build up because so.

0:05 Speaker 2: Everybody likes the art belt build up, the art belt sound.

0:08 Speaker 2: You know what would he say from the Kingdom of

0:12 Speaker 2: Nye and Nyah right prompt Nevada.

0:15 Speaker 1: I used to always love art bell because someone would

0:17 Speaker 1: call in and say I'm a were wolf and.

0:20 Speaker 2: He would go, oh, my interesting, tell me more.

0:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, yea. He didn't care.

0:25 Speaker 2: He never he never called you out on it, just

0:27 Speaker 2: let you let your ramble. He had time traveler lines.

0:30 Speaker 2: Loved the people loved it.

0:31 Speaker 1: I never learned anything from it, though.

0:33 Speaker 2: So you're obsessed with UFOs, right?

0:36 Speaker 3: Uh?

0:37 Speaker 2: Is that safe to say?

0:39 Speaker 1: It's safe to say, But it's it's not so much

0:41 Speaker 1: just the UFO itself. I mean there, I don't call

0:44 Speaker 1: him that anymore. We call these advanced aial threats. They're different,

0:47 Speaker 1: but threats you were you honed in on a word

0:51 Speaker 1: we weren't supposed to really get into here in the

0:52 Speaker 1: first part of the of the show.

0:53 Speaker 2: Did you have a plan?

0:55 Speaker 1: I have a very I have a very long plan,

0:58 Speaker 1: detailed plan. We're gonna start with my body. We're just

1:00 Speaker 1: gonn talk about my body for a lot, and.

1:02 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you want to talk about?

1:03 Speaker 1: When terms of your body, Well, my body is interesting.

1:06 Speaker 1: It's unique. Okay, it's it, and it's changes shape. And

1:11 Speaker 1: what I've noticed is it's just changing. Yeah, it's getting larger,

1:15 Speaker 1: getting wider.

1:15 Speaker 2: Depending upon what you put in it.

1:17 Speaker 1: But you're all can I cuss?

1:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. We're on the internet.

1:20 Speaker 1: You're so fucking fit. You shook my hand out, They're

1:22 Speaker 1: gonna break my hand.

1:23 Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, Just don't be strong.

1:25 Speaker 2: I didn't mean to. Don't be so hard your hand.

1:27 Speaker 2: Just thought it was a handshake, I know.

1:30 Speaker 1: Well, it's one of those power means. You ever see

1:31 Speaker 1: when Trump shakes people's hands and he pulls them.

1:33 Speaker 2: In and he's like, yeah he does do weird ship,

1:35 Speaker 2: It does weird shit like that. Yeah, yeah, I didn't

1:37 Speaker 2: mean to do that, just meant to shake your hand

1:38 Speaker 2: like a man.

1:39 Speaker 1: Well I took it as like know your place, motherfucker.

1:43 Speaker 1: Oh this is my show.

1:44 Speaker 2: I didn't think that. No, I'm just interesting. So how

1:49 Speaker 2: when did you get obsessed with this aerial threat thing?

1:52 Speaker 2: And why why do you why do you call them threats?

1:53 Speaker 1: Uh, we'll get into that, I guess, but uh uh

1:58 Speaker 1: I got into when I was in junior high. But

2:00 Speaker 1: for some weird reason, I had like some time off

2:03 Speaker 1: and I went to the school library in like seventh grade,

2:07 Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, I gonna read some boring shit.

2:09 Speaker 1: What am I gonna read? And I saw this one

2:11 Speaker 1: book and it had a picture of the Lockness monster

2:13 Speaker 1: in like a ufo'mll that looks cool. And I read

2:16 Speaker 1: that and I was like, holy cow, these are like real.

2:19 Speaker 1: It wasn't all science fiction. I mean the way the

2:21 Speaker 1: book was laid out was like, these are like real events.

2:23 Speaker 1: There's no no way really. And then when the band

2:26 Speaker 1: started doing its thing in the back of the van,

2:28 Speaker 1: there were no like smartphones, so I was, we're buying

2:31 Speaker 1: books and I would just lay there. We'd have like

2:33 Speaker 1: twenty hour drives, and so I started buying books on

2:36 Speaker 1: the UFO phenomenon. And I was, once you do that,

2:39 Speaker 1: it's a black hole, You're done.

2:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely a rabbit hole you get sucked into it.

2:44 Speaker 2: At my house, I have a frame poster that's the

2:47 Speaker 2: cover of the Roswell Daily News. Yeah, that shows the

2:50 Speaker 2: day after the Roswell crash where it says that the

2:54 Speaker 2: Air Force came and recovered the wreckage and you know,

2:57 Speaker 2: the whole I've been obsessed with this shit since I

2:59 Speaker 2: was a little kid.

3:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's uh. I think that's

3:04 Speaker 1: by design. I think that this generation is uh was

3:09 Speaker 1: meant to have this stuff come out. But you know,

3:12 Speaker 1: I can't prove that that's just my feeling.

3:14 Speaker 2: What what makes you feel that?

3:15 Speaker 1: Like? Because of exactly what you said, there's a lot

3:18 Speaker 1: of people. I don't believe that some of the I

3:24 Speaker 1: don't believe that some of the events happened on accident.

3:26 Speaker 2: You know.

3:27 Speaker 1: I think that there's been a lot of events that

3:29 Speaker 1: are on purpose. Some have been for show, some have

3:32 Speaker 1: been for you. There's a variety, variety of reasons. But

3:35 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is a control system

3:39 Speaker 1: that's really pushing humanity in a very specific direction.

3:42 Speaker 2: And uh so, like they've got a time frame where

3:45 Speaker 2: they've had these events take place. Is that what you think? Yeah?

3:48 Speaker 1: And they also time travel, which is different than what

3:50 Speaker 1: people think in like a movie where they sit in

3:52 Speaker 1: a machine and you also you're in the nineteen thirties

3:54 Speaker 1: and you got to go save humanity. When you use

3:57 Speaker 1: the technology, you have a there's a time I'm a

4:01 Speaker 1: difference between where what they're doing inside of an artificially

4:06 Speaker 1: created bubble of gravity of sorts, and then what's on

4:10 Speaker 1: the outside. So if you're on the inside of one

4:12 Speaker 1: of those machines, everything would be skewed more black and white.

4:15 Speaker 1: There would be like a red shift, and everybody would

4:18 Speaker 1: look frozen. So you literally could fly around and grab

4:22 Speaker 1: a coke out of someone's hand and put it in

4:23 Speaker 1: someone else's hand.

4:24 Speaker 2: It's really where are you getting this from?

4:26 Speaker 1: Well take a while, guess look at the people I'm

4:28 Speaker 1: surrounded by, you know.

4:30 Speaker 2: So so the people you're surrounded by are telling you

4:33 Speaker 2: this is that? What it is? Uh?

4:35 Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to get into that. But the

4:38 Speaker 1: people I'm surrounded with and myself, you know, are very

4:43 Speaker 1: close to this stuff. But the physics, you know, the

4:46 Speaker 1: physicist that's a co founder of my company, to the Star,

4:48 Speaker 1: he's a Nobel nominee. He wrote the book on plasma physics.

4:51 Speaker 1: He what's his name, hal put Off? Doctor hal put Off,

4:55 Speaker 1: and he he created remote viewing. Do you know what

4:57 Speaker 1: remote viewing is? Yeah, he's the creator of the CIA

5:00 Speaker 1: spy program. But he also has done like really exotic

5:04 Speaker 1: advanced forefront propulsion work for the past decades and decades. Actually,

5:11 Speaker 1: I mean he's deep into the like quantum this and that.

5:15 Speaker 1: So he's the one that actually told me about the

5:18 Speaker 1: red shift.

5:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they have experienced this physically or is

5:24 Speaker 2: this just theoretical or they know that it exists like

5:27 Speaker 2: the technology.

5:28 Speaker 1: Yes, I believe that the technology not only exists, We've

5:37 Speaker 1: figured out how to play with it. But I'm not

5:40 Speaker 1: going to really get into that here. That is what

5:43 Speaker 1: we're doing at my company though. That is the announcement.

5:45 Speaker 1: So Steve Justice was head of advanced programs at the

5:48 Speaker 1: skunk Works. And the skunk Works are who built you

5:51 Speaker 1: know the famous secret bases you hear about Skunk Works.

5:54 Speaker 1: Did you know the U two spy plane, the SR

5:56 Speaker 1: seventy one, Blackbirds one seventeen Stell five and it's all

6:00 Speaker 1: Groom Lake out there, all that kind of stuff. And

6:04 Speaker 1: and he literally was in charge of all the advanced programs.

6:06 Speaker 1: So you know, you got the boss, and you got

6:09 Speaker 1: him and he came, uh he just finished his career

6:13 Speaker 1: over there within the past two months, I think it is.

6:16 Speaker 1: And and he was on stage with me when we

6:19 Speaker 1: came out and and said, we're going to be building

6:21 Speaker 1: one of these things.

6:22 Speaker 2: So when when you say that this all this technology exists.

6:26 Speaker 2: Have they explained this to you or have you seen

6:30 Speaker 2: it physically? Oh?

6:31 Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything physically like that. I'm not I

6:33 Speaker 1: wouldn't be allowed to go anywhere if that does or

6:36 Speaker 1: doesn't exist.

6:37 Speaker 2: So they've just explained to you that this exists and

6:41 Speaker 2: that this is in the hands of the US government.

6:43 Speaker 1: This, I think, No, No, I see, I don't want

6:45 Speaker 1: to get into that kind of stuff. But if you

6:47 Speaker 1: don't mind.

6:48 Speaker 2: Well, why is it that you want to not get

6:49 Speaker 2: into certain things?

6:50 Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to speak. Actually, you know I

6:52 Speaker 1: represent more than myself these days, right, so I definitely

6:55 Speaker 1: have to watch what I say.

6:56 Speaker 2: Well, who do you represent when you represent yourself?

6:59 Speaker 1: The team that I'm with? So when you look at

7:01 Speaker 1: the people that are a part of my company, it's

7:03 Speaker 1: under Secretary of Defenses and Defense and Senior Intelligence Service.

7:07 Speaker 2: Is there at these people like that we could see?

7:09 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I thought you guys would have had that.

7:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, is there like a list where

7:13 Speaker 2: folks could see it online? Ah?

7:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, they can go to to the Stars Academy dot

7:18 Speaker 1: com and scroll down and you'll be able to see

7:21 Speaker 1: who they all are.

7:22 Speaker 2: So so how did you get linked up with all

7:24 Speaker 2: these people?

7:25 Speaker 1: That story might be a better way to start, because

7:28 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know this part of the story,

7:30 Speaker 1: and I think you're going to find it pretty fuck

7:32 Speaker 1: odd as well. But uh, okay, so we'll back up

7:34 Speaker 1: a couple of years. So I had I was obviously,

7:38 Speaker 1: you know, I started the band Blink, and Blink went

7:41 Speaker 1: places and then, but we always had a weird band

7:45 Speaker 1: relationship like most bands, and we also thought that we

7:48 Speaker 1: would never be big, so we started companies on the side,

7:52 Speaker 1: and I had a company that incubated a lot of

7:55 Speaker 1: small startups like software and apparel and hardcore skate serve

7:59 Speaker 1: companies and stuff like that. Well, I learned a lot

8:01 Speaker 1: from that, and I pulled out an entertainment startup called

8:05 Speaker 1: to the Stars, and I knew I was going to

8:07 Speaker 1: be doing kind of like science fiction franchised stories, just

8:12 Speaker 1: like Disney, but science fiction for adults. And what that

8:15 Speaker 1: means is, you know, I make a story, I title it,

8:17 Speaker 1: I brand it, and I put out the book and

8:19 Speaker 1: I put up the merchandise, and I go make a movie,

8:21 Speaker 1: you know, and it's a vertically integrated kind of model. Well,

8:26 Speaker 1: one of the stories. I knew I wanted to put

8:28 Speaker 1: out with Secret Machines, which was kind of a historical

8:32 Speaker 1: fiction but based on real events about the UFO phenomenon.

8:35 Speaker 1: But I also knew that I knew shit that most

8:37 Speaker 1: people don't know because I've studied it for so long,

8:41 Speaker 1: and I happened to put some pieces together that most

8:43 Speaker 1: people don't put together. So before I came out with

8:47 Speaker 1: that book, and before I came out with the plan

8:49 Speaker 1: to take that make major motion pictures and all that

8:51 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, I knew I needed to ask permission.

8:55 Speaker 1: So I flew. I flew around to places I can't

9:01 Speaker 1: say who they were, but and they they listened to

9:04 Speaker 1: my pitch. And and then I got a I got

9:07 Speaker 1: an email out of nowhere that says, meet us next

9:10 Speaker 1: to the Pentagon at this day in time. And I

9:12 Speaker 1: did that, and from that an email from just no, no, no,

9:17 Speaker 1: I just can't tell you who it's from. And so

9:19 Speaker 1: then I go out.

9:20 Speaker 2: Uh, next to the Pentagons. You just Pagon.

9:23 Speaker 1: I flew out to Pentagon City.

9:25 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And so they dude, this is freaking out.

9:28 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. When I started freaking out, there's more shit.

9:30 Speaker 1: It gets way worse. This is nothing. So that started

9:34 Speaker 1: me out out near d C taking some other high

9:37 Speaker 1: level meetings, and there's somebody at a very high level

9:40 Speaker 1: that that closed the door looking me in and says, okay,

9:43 Speaker 1: I'm going to introduce you to somebody. And that person

9:46 Speaker 1: comes to San Diego, puts me on the phone with

9:50 Speaker 1: a general and the general is listening to my little

9:53 Speaker 1: stump speech about what I want to do with this

9:55 Speaker 1: franchise because it was I I definitely didn't want to

9:57 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't looking to like force this disclosure

10:00 Speaker 1: and I wasn't looking to be rogue and break secrets.

10:02 Speaker 1: I was like, look, I know what's going on here,

10:05 Speaker 1: and you guys are doing a kick ass job. And

10:07 Speaker 1: I would have done the exact same thing. Should I

10:10 Speaker 1: have been the guy at the top that had to

10:11 Speaker 1: make some really hardcore decisions seventy years ago. So I

10:15 Speaker 1: want to support you. I think people are cynical because

10:17 Speaker 1: there's a vacuum. You guys can't say what you're doing,

10:20 Speaker 1: so all these people are just coming up with a

10:22 Speaker 1: bunch of bullshit to say, oh, you know, they don't

10:25 Speaker 1: want us to know, or we can't handle it, or

10:26 Speaker 1: it's all about oil and money and all this weird shit.

10:30 Speaker 2: You would put these pieces together independently. I did, and

10:33 Speaker 2: so based on books that you read.

10:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, people think, you know, people think that like places

10:39 Speaker 1: like the CIA and the DIA, all these intelligence organizations

10:42 Speaker 1: have you know, a monopoly on information. They don't. They

10:46 Speaker 1: get their information from the real world too. You know,

10:48 Speaker 1: they do have access to to you know, archives of information.

10:52 Speaker 1: They do have access to some amazing you know, satellite

10:57 Speaker 1: data and stuff like that. But if you're smart and

11:00 Speaker 1: you take your time, you know where to look and

11:02 Speaker 1: you find patterns, you can pretty much put together all

11:05 Speaker 1: the same shit they can kind of, you know. And

11:07 Speaker 1: that's what I did. And so when I pitched what

11:10 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, he said, come up and meet

11:13 Speaker 1: me tomorrow. And so I flew up to NASA actually

11:17 Speaker 1: NASA Ames and had a two hour meeting there. And

11:20 Speaker 1: after two hours, that person says, he looks me in

11:24 Speaker 1: the eyes, I'm going to introduce you to someone else,

11:26 Speaker 1: and he did. And so I got on the phone

11:28 Speaker 1: with this person, and this person, you know, I'm a skeptic.

11:32 Speaker 1: I'm a skeptic. And then at the end of the

11:33 Speaker 1: conversation he goes, he goes fly out and see me,

11:37 Speaker 1: and so I did, and that's when things really started happening.

11:41 Speaker 1: So I'm now, I fly out to this airport and

11:44 Speaker 1: I sit at a table in a restaurant at the airport.

11:48 Speaker 1: No one's in there, and this gentleman sits down and

11:52 Speaker 1: the waiter comes up. He waves off the waiter and

11:53 Speaker 1: he looks me in the eye and says, it was

11:55 Speaker 1: the Cold War and we found a life for him.

11:57 Speaker 1: And that's when I started shitting my pants because I

11:59 Speaker 1: know a lot about this stuff, but you always wait

12:01 Speaker 1: to talk to somebody that is one of the inside

12:06 Speaker 1: people you always want to help.

12:07 Speaker 2: He sits down at a restaurant with you at the

12:10 Speaker 2: airport and tells you that they found a life form.

12:13 Speaker 1: Yes, and during the Cold War, during the Cold War,

12:16 Speaker 1: and everything that they did and every decision they made

12:19 Speaker 1: at the time was because of the consciousness of the

12:21 Speaker 1: Cold War.

12:22 Speaker 2: Why has this guy decided to meet with you at

12:23 Speaker 2: an airport.

12:24 Speaker 1: Because the only way you meet with these people, the

12:26 Speaker 1: only way you ever would have anyone talk to you,

12:29 Speaker 1: is if you can provide a service that they need.

12:31 Speaker 1: And my service was pretty interesting to them because I said, look,

12:36 Speaker 1: you guys, you know you struggle with saying disclosure. You

12:39 Speaker 1: want to tell everybody everything, which I don't think everyone

12:41 Speaker 1: should know everything. And then you say they can't handle it,

12:44 Speaker 1: so don't tell them anything, you know. And I'm like,

12:46 Speaker 1: there's there's a middle road there, and here's the way

12:48 Speaker 1: I would do the middle road. And it resonated with them,

12:52 Speaker 1: you know, And so we had a pretty epic conversation

12:56 Speaker 1: for a two hours.

12:57 Speaker 2: Why you like, why what is it about what you

13:00 Speaker 2: a message was? Because what your idea was that made

13:03 Speaker 2: them something? Tell you some top secret shit that they've

13:06 Speaker 2: tried to keep away from the American people. When you

13:08 Speaker 2: take a guy who's like a big celebrity who's in

13:10 Speaker 2: a huge rock band like you, and you just say, hey,

13:13 Speaker 2: meet me in an airport. I'm going to tell you

13:15 Speaker 2: about a life form that we found during the Cold

13:17 Speaker 2: War because you're famous or because you know things.

13:20 Speaker 1: No, because I have a service. So it's not it

13:22 Speaker 1: sounds easy when you play it like that, but a service,

13:25 Speaker 1: a service, like what can you do for them, okay

13:28 Speaker 1: that they need help with and cam you do communication?

13:31 Speaker 1: They don't have a way to make a movie a book.

13:33 Speaker 1: They don't know how, they don't have a way to

13:35 Speaker 1: make documentaries. They don't have a way to go on

13:37 Speaker 1: on a big show like this and communicate with young people.

13:40 Speaker 1: They don't do that and nor should they. There they

13:44 Speaker 1: look at you got to look at what they're doing.

13:47 Speaker 2: So they look to you for a spokesperson role.

13:49 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say spokespersonal role, communication role, a communication role.

13:53 Speaker 2: It makes so they would give some information to you

13:56 Speaker 2: and you would get it out to people. And now

13:58 Speaker 2: why wouldn't they do it themselves because they wouldn't have

14:00 Speaker 2: the same platform. They don't have the access. They don't have.

14:04 Speaker 1: And the other reason is is people have tried to

14:06 Speaker 1: do movies and stuff like this, but none none of

14:09 Speaker 1: them know. I was fortunate enough to know the core

14:13 Speaker 1: story and most.

14:14 Speaker 2: How did you explain that? Then, if you don't mind

14:16 Speaker 2: going back, like you said, you were able to put

14:18 Speaker 2: things together that other people weren't. What are those things?

14:22 Speaker 1: Essentially, it's the book Secret Machines, where you have a

14:24 Speaker 1: lot of private finance, you have some world bankers, and

14:28 Speaker 1: you have a lot of people internationally working together to

14:34 Speaker 1: figure out a plan of how to how to push

14:37 Speaker 1: back again something that's been coming here for a very

14:38 Speaker 1: long time. But using off the books, finances and using

14:43 Speaker 1: mechanisms that that were not totally aware exist. And what

14:49 Speaker 1: people have to realize is, you know, the the UFO

14:53 Speaker 1: phenomenon isn't a phenomenon. There's the the universe is fucking gigantic,

14:58 Speaker 1: and there's life everywhere, every fucking where, and there's a

15:03 Speaker 1: lot of life that's way more advanced than we are.

15:06 Speaker 1: And just like we Voyager left our solar system, a

15:08 Speaker 1: little dinky satellite from the seventies there, and just like

15:13 Speaker 1: my company's going to be building, you know this this

15:16 Speaker 1: electromagnetic craft that really can do the same thing to

15:19 Speaker 1: time that I've been telling you about. Other civilizations have

15:23 Speaker 1: that too, which means you can traverse those distances of space.

15:26 Speaker 1: And what you have to think about is what happened

15:29 Speaker 1: when we first discovered that and what did we do

15:32 Speaker 1: about it? And there's no you know, you got to

15:34 Speaker 1: look at forty seven in a very peculiar way. Ninety

15:37 Speaker 1: days after the roswell event with CIA was created, the

15:40 Speaker 1: Air Force was separated from the army, the National Security

15:42 Speaker 1: Act was created, and all those things are mechanisms to

15:45 Speaker 1: start learning more and to start getting private industry off

15:48 Speaker 1: the ground.

15:48 Speaker 2: So that nothing to do with World War Two. You

15:50 Speaker 2: think it had to do with aliens?

15:52 Speaker 1: Oh, I absolutely think it well both, because what I

15:57 Speaker 1: believe crash at Roswell was well, I believe it was

16:02 Speaker 1: German from Argentina, but it had hallmarks and technology based

16:07 Speaker 1: on alien technology. So we put out a story saying

16:11 Speaker 1: it's alien, and then we put out a story saying

16:13 Speaker 1: it's a weather balloon, but the real thing it was.

16:15 Speaker 1: We didn't want anyone to guess, and that's why we

16:17 Speaker 1: put those two things out there. And that's that's kind

16:19 Speaker 1: of how they do it. I think they did that

16:21 Speaker 1: with the Moon. It's like, you know, we went to

16:24 Speaker 1: the moon, and then they put out this meme kind

16:26 Speaker 1: of thing like, can't we didn't go to the moon,

16:29 Speaker 1: But they didn't want people really going, well, what's on

16:31 Speaker 1: the moon?

16:32 Speaker 2: That?

16:32 Speaker 1: You know? So these things are managed until they can

16:35 Speaker 1: figure it out, because you've got a bunch of normal

16:37 Speaker 1: dudes in suits sitting at a big table like this,

16:40 Speaker 1: and it's their fucking responsibility to figure this thing out.

16:44 Speaker 1: And this shit is monumentally big.

16:49 Speaker 2: But back to how they managed this, then, how these

16:52 Speaker 2: regular dudes without access to communication like you have, how

16:55 Speaker 2: they managed to disseminate this information and and and sort

16:58 Speaker 2: of confuse everybody.

17:00 Speaker 1: I think, well, I can tell I don't know how

17:02 Speaker 1: they did it. I do know that they infiltrated UFO groups.

17:04 Speaker 1: That was the very first thing they did in the fifties,

17:07 Speaker 1: sort of like how FBI agents and undercover cops infiltrated

17:11 Speaker 1: Occupy Wall Street you pretended to be radical hippies and

17:14 Speaker 1: start fights. Yep, they did that. They get access to

17:17 Speaker 1: what the civilians are learning, how information transfers from one

17:21 Speaker 1: group to another. And then they start deflecting all their

17:25 Speaker 1: knowledge and putting in leaks and this and that and

17:27 Speaker 1: getting them off the main track, not because of disdain

17:30 Speaker 1: for citizens and not because of any other reason. Then

17:36 Speaker 1: picture isis we don't know what isis is they got

17:39 Speaker 1: a nuclear bomb and we caught a guy trying to

17:42 Speaker 1: sneak in this bomb. Are they going to stop and

17:45 Speaker 1: come sit on your couch and tell you all about it? No.

17:48 Speaker 1: And if you're like on the radio and there's all

17:49 Speaker 1: these people going, oh my god, we're going to die

17:51 Speaker 1: a bomb, Obama bomb, They'll hold up a second. You

17:54 Speaker 1: know you're not going to fucking die. But we need

17:56 Speaker 1: to learn more about this and we've got to figure

17:57 Speaker 1: it out before we sit down and talk to you

17:59 Speaker 1: about it.

18:00 Speaker 2: So what was the connection though, specifically that you had

18:03 Speaker 2: figured out that they knew that you had figured out

18:05 Speaker 2: that people hadn't put together.

18:07 Speaker 1: Well, let me just okay, so let me go back

18:09 Speaker 1: to my story. So I put out this book, and

18:10 Speaker 1: this book deals with it was a book called Secret Machines,

18:15 Speaker 1: and it deals with secret you know, international finance, private industry,

18:24 Speaker 1: a secret space program, and a bunch of other things that.

18:28 Speaker 2: Your research this book. What do you mean, how'd you

18:31 Speaker 2: get the information?

18:32 Speaker 1: It was just twenty five years of reading shit and

18:34 Speaker 1: watching videos and studying physics and studying you know, the

18:38 Speaker 1: secrecy acts and all that kind of weird shit. You know,

18:40 Speaker 1: you put it together, and a lot of it's bad information.

18:43 Speaker 1: But after a long time I realized, I just realized

18:48 Speaker 1: what was going on there. I just I studied enough

18:51 Speaker 1: of international finance, some mechanisms that happened after World War Two,

18:56 Speaker 1: what the Nazis were doing technologically that no one really

19:00 Speaker 1: talks about it this day. There were one hundred years

19:01 Speaker 1: ahead of us about what their guys did at the

19:04 Speaker 1: end of the war in South America, that's in the

19:07 Speaker 1: paper clip. Paper clip was like, there's two levels of

19:10 Speaker 1: paper clip. Paper clip is is the operation that brought

19:13 Speaker 1: over all these x Nazis into NASA and into all

19:17 Speaker 1: of our aerospace programs. Why did we do that? Well,

19:20 Speaker 1: because they knew some shit that was very important, and

19:24 Speaker 1: we said there might be a bigger issue out there

19:26 Speaker 1: to deal with, So why don't we side with the

19:29 Speaker 1: devil or side with someone bad because there might be

19:32 Speaker 1: a devil out there. It's that kind of thinking. So

19:34 Speaker 1: they come in.

19:35 Speaker 2: I thought it was about competing with Russia to try

19:38 Speaker 2: to advance rocketry.

19:40 Speaker 1: I believe that there was you know, I believe that

19:44 Speaker 1: there's a reason what the Cold War never got hot

19:47 Speaker 1: is because we're working with Russia on this specific issue.

19:50 Speaker 2: You think the reason why the Cold War never turned

19:53 Speaker 2: into an actual war? Is that what you're saying. Yeah,

19:55 Speaker 2: so it had nothing to do with the fact that

19:57 Speaker 2: Russia was a communist empire and essentially it did spent

20:00 Speaker 2: them and they really went under and collapsed.

20:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's different there's different levels. It's like when

20:06 Speaker 1: someone goes, you know, the US government did this, well,

20:09 Speaker 1: what do you mean, what does that mean? Does that

20:11 Speaker 1: mean the CIA did it, or the DoD did it,

20:13 Speaker 1: or Homeland Security did it. You're dealing with It's a

20:16 Speaker 1: trillion dollar organization. It's like if somebody in Apple leaks

20:21 Speaker 1: an iPhone, you know, are you going to say, oh

20:24 Speaker 1: my god, Apple is doing apples? Like, well, shit, we're

20:26 Speaker 1: an eight hundred billion dollar company. We have so many

20:29 Speaker 1: things going on worldwide, it's impossible to say the entire

20:32 Speaker 1: organization believes one thing and the government's the same kind

20:35 Speaker 1: of the same kind of way. It's just like, that's

20:38 Speaker 1: just a word. The US government's two words, right, three year,

20:41 Speaker 1: three words? How do we want to.

20:42 Speaker 2: Count this in the United States government? Okay?

20:45 Speaker 1: Three essay, US has got a calculator. Figure the shit out.

20:49 Speaker 1: But and you have many, many layers of what's going on.

20:52 Speaker 1: And because you have some people worried on technology, some

20:55 Speaker 1: people worrying about what's happening happening to the civilian population,

20:58 Speaker 1: you have some people worrying about, you know, how to

21:01 Speaker 1: keep everything afloat, how to keep everything going. And you

21:04 Speaker 1: have a whole bunch of weird military excursions and they're

21:06 Speaker 1: bumping into each other, and all these people aren't red

21:09 Speaker 1: in to what's going on with the UFO thing, so

21:11 Speaker 1: as all that shit.

21:12 Speaker 2: So who gets red in?

21:14 Speaker 1: That's a good question if I had to guess, very

21:18 Speaker 1: very senior technical brass and rock stars, and I wasn't

21:22 Speaker 1: red in.

21:22 Speaker 2: Trust No they didn't tell you anything.

21:24 Speaker 1: No, they possibly did, but I wasn't red and red in.

21:27 Speaker 1: I wasn't brought into a skiff and they said, this

21:29 Speaker 1: is what's going on, even though I've been in a

21:30 Speaker 1: skiff a few times.

21:32 Speaker 2: Okay, do you want to? Skiff is a boat?

21:35 Speaker 1: A skiff is a special compartmentalized information facility. It's it's

21:43 Speaker 1: where top secret shit can be discussed.

21:46 Speaker 2: I thought maybe they talk on boats because nobody can

21:48 Speaker 2: hear you. They do that too, They do that. They

21:51 Speaker 2: do that, they.

21:51 Speaker 1: Actually do because you can sweep for bugs on boats

21:55 Speaker 1: a lot easier than you can on a building.

21:56 Speaker 2: Makes sense, Yeah, yeah, so they tell you what.

22:01 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm sitting at that restaurant and he says.

22:04 Speaker 2: He found a life form, and they found a life

22:06 Speaker 2: form during the Cold War.

22:07 Speaker 1: Right, And I and I said, well do you find it?

22:09 Speaker 2: Oh?

22:09 Speaker 1: I didn't ask him that question. In many places. I

22:12 Speaker 1: did one time bring up I said, you know, I'm

22:14 Speaker 1: thinking about talking about the crash in the late forties,

22:17 Speaker 1: and they go, why just that one? That was the answer.

22:21 Speaker 1: So I had to figure out a language to talk

22:22 Speaker 1: to these guys.

22:23 Speaker 2: Did you ever think maybe this guy's bullshitting you or

22:25 Speaker 2: he's crazy?

22:26 Speaker 1: Fuck No, no, I'll tell you got it. That's why

22:27 Speaker 1: you got to hear the whole story. So okay, So

22:30 Speaker 1: I'm sitting with them. We talk about a lot of things.

22:32 Speaker 1: I bring up the incidents with our nuclear weapons. I

22:34 Speaker 1: bring up the incidences a few other things that I

22:37 Speaker 1: want to get into, and and he goes, what do

22:40 Speaker 1: you need to do your project? What are you what

22:42 Speaker 1: are you looking for? And I said, well, I need advisors.

22:44 Speaker 1: You know, I need people that are from different areas

22:48 Speaker 1: in the government, because everyone has their own own perspective.

22:51 Speaker 1: You know, you have people at the National Reconnaissance Office

22:54 Speaker 1: that have a perspective based on the satellite feeds they're

22:57 Speaker 1: getting and these things are coming in and out of

22:59 Speaker 1: the atmosphere. Then you'll so have people from the agency

23:01 Speaker 1: that are worried about in collecting information of what's going

23:04 Speaker 1: on with people in different countries and here. But then

23:07 Speaker 1: you also have you know, engineers that have a perspective

23:12 Speaker 1: on how the technology is made and what that might mean,

23:15 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of consciousness stuff that falls into.

23:17 Speaker 2: This capistry there. So there's satellites that track them coming

23:20 Speaker 2: in and out of the atmosphere. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, What

23:25 Speaker 2: kind of satellites are these?

23:27 Speaker 1: The fuck? I don't know. Usually forward looking in for red,

23:30 Speaker 1: but I don't know what spectrum of the infrared they're

23:32 Speaker 1: looking at.

23:33 Speaker 2: So there's some sort of a camera or some sort

23:36 Speaker 2: of a detection device that they have in the atmosphere

23:40 Speaker 2: just to check for UFOs.

23:41 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just for UFOs. They can

23:43 Speaker 1: pick up very very specific heat signatures, and they have

23:47 Speaker 1: algorithms because what you have is a satellite is a

23:52 Speaker 1: device that can pick up what you program it to

23:55 Speaker 1: pick up. Now, you know, you put a sensor on there,

23:58 Speaker 1: but you got to tell the sensor what to do.

24:00 Speaker 1: So if the sensor says, look, something traveling at this

24:03 Speaker 1: speed with this kind of heat, you know you got

24:06 Speaker 1: to record that. You got to focus on it, and

24:08 Speaker 1: that that's what we call an ICBM. But if something

24:10 Speaker 1: comes in and zigzag stops and turns left and it's

24:13 Speaker 1: traveling ten times faster than that, we need you to

24:15 Speaker 1: record that and focus in on that as well. But

24:17 Speaker 1: if something just is moving low and it's only going

24:20 Speaker 1: three hundred miles an hour and it has these big

24:22 Speaker 1: wings and a low whatever, they're just a plane, you know.

24:24 Speaker 1: So the what it captures is based on you know,

24:28 Speaker 1: how it's programmed in the first place.

24:31 Speaker 2: But so it can differentiate between meteor rites.

24:33 Speaker 1: And absolutely, yes, absolutely so.

24:35 Speaker 2: So how often are these things coming into our atmosphere?

24:38 Speaker 1: Oh shit, I don't know, but I've had quite a

24:40 Speaker 1: few discussions. One of the people I've been I've been

24:44 Speaker 1: in contact. One of my advisors was from the National

24:48 Speaker 1: Reconnaissance Office, High up, high high up. And they call

24:52 Speaker 1: it episodic visits.

24:53 Speaker 2: That's all I know, episodic. They have time periods where

24:57 Speaker 2: they like.

24:58 Speaker 1: There was I saw a paper where they say masters

25:00 Speaker 1: I figured out the Department Offense figured out a physicist

25:05 Speaker 1: there an algorithm of how to compute when the things

25:08 Speaker 1: fly in and collect smaller ships like motherships, small ships,

25:13 Speaker 1: what what at what longitude and latitude and uh and

25:16 Speaker 1: what essentially what orbit it would land at when it

25:19 Speaker 1: would collect these other machines. And so they tested that

25:23 Speaker 1: and all I know is it was successful.

25:26 Speaker 2: This is happening on a very frequent basis.

25:28 Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you the rest of the story.

25:30 Speaker 1: So I I, uh, and this is it's important because

25:32 Speaker 1: you'll see. So he goes, what.

25:35 Speaker 2: Do you need?

25:35 Speaker 1: I said, I need advisors and then so next thing

25:38 Speaker 1: you know, I leave, and two weeks later, bam, bam bam,

25:41 Speaker 1: my email starts. I have all these admirals, all these generals, no,

25:44 Speaker 1: no intelligence people other than other than brass that were

25:47 Speaker 1: connected with the National Reconnaissance Office. But National Connaissance Office

25:51 Speaker 1: is half Air Force and half CIA, but they're all

25:55 Speaker 1: they're all military, and so I start talking to them.

25:59 Speaker 1: I start meeting with them. I fly out to Colorado

26:02 Speaker 1: Springs and there's a general and a colonel and they

26:05 Speaker 1: look at me and they said, uh. They said, okay,

26:08 Speaker 1: do you need anything else? Are you good? And I said, well,

26:11 Speaker 1: I think you guys should talk to the Defense Intelligence

26:12 Speaker 1: Agency and they go why, Well, I just don't want

26:14 Speaker 1: to upset them. I want to make sure everyone's kosher

26:17 Speaker 1: with what I'm about to do. And the colonel looks

26:20 Speaker 1: at me and he goes, do you ask your dad

26:21 Speaker 1: for permission after your mom has already given it to you?

26:23 Speaker 1: And I go, no, and he's all, you've been given permission,

26:25 Speaker 1: shut the fuck up and get to work. And I

26:27 Speaker 1: was like, all right, So I did. So I go

26:30 Speaker 1: out and I put the book out there, and I

26:31 Speaker 1: start doing national radio like the artbel So Coast to

26:34 Speaker 1: Coast Ordinal, I do all that stuff. Next thing, you know,

26:36 Speaker 1: I get approached by somebody with a at a certain agency,

26:40 Speaker 1: and that guy comes to San Diego and puts me

26:42 Speaker 1: in a small room and I got what you would

26:48 Speaker 1: call interrogated for two days straight, saying we need to

26:52 Speaker 1: know who the fuck you are? You know shit you shouldn't.

26:55 Speaker 2: Know, and what like what specifically should you not have known? Though?

27:00 Speaker 1: What the book? What's in the book? Everything I've been

27:03 Speaker 1: telling you today. When you're dealing with there there is

27:07 Speaker 1: a there is a concerted international effort to deal with

27:11 Speaker 1: this stuff. And that was in my book. And that

27:13 Speaker 1: is it's not like Roswell crashed, and it's not like,

27:17 Speaker 1: you know, like all the typical UFO shit that people

27:20 Speaker 1: dwell on isn't the story. It's just that there's something crashed,

27:24 Speaker 1: or someone saw got abducted and saw this, or someone

27:27 Speaker 1: pulled a little piece of metal out of their body,

27:28 Speaker 1: But no one's put together what we're doing about it,

27:32 Speaker 1: because our countrymen since World War Two aren't stupid.

27:36 Speaker 2: What set them off? Though, Like, what was the thing

27:38 Speaker 2: that you said that you should not have known?

27:40 Speaker 1: The In my book, it is my belief that we

27:46 Speaker 1: have an incredible we've made incredible strides creating assets to

27:54 Speaker 1: deal with this stuff. That's that's my belief. And I'm

27:57 Speaker 1: not speaking for a company this just as that's.

28:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some sort of a government agency that's

28:03 Speaker 2: been designed or were now together international international, Okay, so

28:07 Speaker 2: some sort of an international collaboration to deal with the

28:10 Speaker 2: threat of alien life. And that was enough that they

28:13 Speaker 2: pulled you aside and wouldn't let you go for two days.

28:15 Speaker 1: And just yeah, so it was it was more it

28:19 Speaker 1: was an interrogation, but it was a pretty heavy debriefing

28:23 Speaker 1: of how I got to where I was. And it's

28:25 Speaker 1: not like they didn't let me go home. This took

28:26 Speaker 1: place at a hotel near my home, but.

28:29 Speaker 2: They made you sit down and talk to them.

28:31 Speaker 1: Oh fuck, yeah, I had.

28:32 Speaker 2: There was six of them, I think six, And so

28:35 Speaker 2: they let you leave and go to sleep and then

28:37 Speaker 2: come back get something.

28:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, and came back, spent another eight hours because I

28:40 Speaker 1: wasn't rogue. I wasn't like trying to hide anything. I

28:43 Speaker 1: was trying to explain to that how did.

28:44 Speaker 2: You have all this free time? Though?

28:46 Speaker 1: What do you mean?

28:46 Speaker 2: I mean you like, if somebody said, hey, we're gonna

28:49 Speaker 2: have you in a room, We're going to talk to

28:50 Speaker 2: you for two days, I'm like, dude, I don't have

28:51 Speaker 2: two days.

28:52 Speaker 1: That's that's well, that's maybe you don't, but if you do,

28:56 Speaker 1: I fuck. Yeah. When you have these people that want

28:58 Speaker 1: to get a hold of you, you don't run.

29:00 Speaker 2: I'm not saying run, I'm saying, like, what are you

29:01 Speaker 2: guys looking for? Like they're going to just sit you

29:03 Speaker 2: down and ask you questions for two days because you

29:06 Speaker 2: put together this idea that somehow or another, there's some

29:08 Speaker 2: sort of an international collaboration to deal with the threat

29:11 Speaker 2: of a million life.

29:11 Speaker 1: No, they they looked at it. They didn't know. They

29:14 Speaker 1: thought I was at Snowden. They thought I was They

29:18 Speaker 1: thought there was a group of people leaking me classified information.

29:21 Speaker 2: They didn't know that you're from Blink twenty two. They

29:23 Speaker 2: didn't know that you're like a huge They don't care

29:25 Speaker 2: about Rockstar.

29:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they don't understand. They don't care about

29:29 Speaker 1: who I am. They just care about the material, right.

29:31 Speaker 2: But but it should take them like three seconds to realize, like,

29:34 Speaker 2: you're not Edward Snowden, You're a rock star.

29:36 Speaker 1: But but I'm saying some pretty provocative shit. You got

29:39 Speaker 1: to realize no one else has gone up there and

29:43 Speaker 1: talked about you know. Once again, I'm in a tricky

29:48 Speaker 1: spot right now because a lot of what happened back then,

29:51 Speaker 1: you know, I can't really get into now because of

29:53 Speaker 1: the positions and the things I'm involved with. But read

29:57 Speaker 1: the book, and.

29:58 Speaker 2: So it's just because you printed this stuff in the

30:00 Speaker 2: book that they wanted to pull you aside and talk

30:02 Speaker 2: to you about this for two days.

30:03 Speaker 1: And I was all over radio and talking about it,

30:05 Speaker 1: and I was saying some other crazy shit that I

30:07 Speaker 1: can't repeat. So people listening, if they want to go

30:09 Speaker 1: back and look at those interviews, that's a better way too.

30:11 Speaker 2: Okay, So you had said something in those interviews that

30:13 Speaker 2: you can't say again because they told you to stop

30:15 Speaker 2: talking about it. Absolutely, they tell you to stop talking

30:18 Speaker 2: about the fact that you can't talk about it.

30:20 Speaker 1: No, I mean, I don't think that's the issue. They

30:23 Speaker 1: The more of the issue was what are you trying

30:25 Speaker 1: to achieve? And once they found out who I was

30:28 Speaker 1: working with, they were like, holy shit. And they only

30:30 Speaker 1: found that out when Wiki Leaks broke into John Podesta's

30:36 Speaker 1: emails and I was having video conferences in conference calls

30:41 Speaker 1: with He was Obama's senior adviser at the time. So

30:44 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal broke the story, like, what's this

30:47 Speaker 1: rock star talking about UFOs with Hillary Clinton's campaign manager. No,

30:53 Speaker 1: he was Obama's senior advisor, So I had nothing to

30:55 Speaker 1: do with Hillary, you know. So we were setting these up,

30:57 Speaker 1: and when that broke, I had to call up my

30:59 Speaker 1: partner from the CIA and I said, you know, and

31:03 Speaker 1: I gotta say, I know, I got Now I can

31:05 Speaker 1: talk to you a little bit more about who these

31:07 Speaker 1: people are and and that's where I gained a really

31:12 Speaker 1: large amount of credibility with them, but also where they

31:15 Speaker 1: realized that we've got to figure out a better way

31:18 Speaker 1: to do this. And what you see is me and

31:22 Speaker 1: some very important people coming together to do something that

31:25 Speaker 1: I think is really beneficial to society, but a lot

31:28 Speaker 1: we have a lot of work to do because a

31:29 Speaker 1: lot of people think they don't know what to think

31:32 Speaker 1: of it at first, they thought I was nuts when

31:33 Speaker 1: I was talking about book. I'm all, I got these advisors,

31:36 Speaker 1: you know. And then all of a sudden, the Wall

31:37 Speaker 1: Street Journal broke this story and there's all these multi

31:40 Speaker 1: star generals and head of some really big aerospace companies

31:44 Speaker 1: and people. Then then the big news organizations were like,

31:49 Speaker 1: holy shit, this is this might be real. A lot

31:50 Speaker 1: of kids still don't know, and they're having fun on

31:52 Speaker 1: the internet. And then I came out a couple of

31:55 Speaker 1: weeks ago on stage with all these people. Now it's like,

31:58 Speaker 1: now all the big, huge dealing with some crazy, big

32:01 Speaker 1: mainstream press that that we're trying to keep at bay

32:04 Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons. But yes, it's all true.

32:07 Speaker 1: And what to the stars is really after is how

32:11 Speaker 1: do we how do we bring the public in on

32:14 Speaker 1: this and work together to to communicate and educate this stuff.

32:19 Speaker 1: How do we bring the technology out of the shadows

32:22 Speaker 1: and build it for the world, And how do we uh,

32:26 Speaker 1: you know, tell the story in documentaries, nonfiction fictional works

32:30 Speaker 1: over a period of years. And if we do that,

32:33 Speaker 1: the public owns it. The public has to say they're

32:35 Speaker 1: a part of it, and then people will start to

32:37 Speaker 1: understand over time, why they did what they did. They

32:40 Speaker 1: didn't lie to people just out of like ego. It's

32:44 Speaker 1: it's they were like, Okay, there's this group called ISIS

32:47 Speaker 1: and they're here and we need to understand them, and

32:49 Speaker 1: we need to fucking figure it out quick. But the

32:52 Speaker 1: problem is these are extraordinarily advanced civilizations that have been

32:56 Speaker 1: coming here forever. That's why it's all in all the

32:59 Speaker 1: ancient fucking scripts and texts and carved into rocks and

33:03 Speaker 1: all that shit. But trying to figure it out, trying

33:07 Speaker 1: to connect the dots and trying to I mean, looking

33:10 Speaker 1: at debris that they probably still have in a warehouse,

33:14 Speaker 1: going we have no fucking clue how to make this

33:17 Speaker 1: or back engineer this stuff. I mean, there's a piece

33:20 Speaker 1: of metal from a crash that I've seen, and I've

33:24 Speaker 1: seen the science on it, and it's so it's atomically aligned,

33:29 Speaker 1: and it's layered and multiple like eighty layers within just

33:32 Speaker 1: a few microns of purities of metal that aren't even

33:37 Speaker 1: in our solar system. And they think it needs to

33:40 Speaker 1: be made in an area where there's no gravity. So

33:43 Speaker 1: number one has to be made in space. Number two,

33:46 Speaker 1: even if we were to create a machine that can

33:48 Speaker 1: potentially do some of this stuff three D printing layers

33:52 Speaker 1: of different metals of obscene purities. It would cost hundreds

33:56 Speaker 1: and hundreds of millions of dollars. We don't even have that.

33:59 Speaker 2: Why did I think it was made without gravity?

34:01 Speaker 1: Because I think it's the atomic structure. So what happens

34:04 Speaker 1: is is when you radiate it with terror hurts, it

34:07 Speaker 1: loses mass, something weird. It resonates some kind of harmonic

34:12 Speaker 1: and then it gets lighter, and if you hit it

34:14 Speaker 1: with enough tear hurts, it'll float. So we're gonna be

34:16 Speaker 1: showing people this stuff. We're gonna be bringing out the hardware,

34:20 Speaker 1: some of the hard We're gonna be bringing out implants.

34:21 Speaker 1: So we're gonna be bringing out videos, We're gonna be bringing.

34:23 Speaker 2: Out You going to be showing people this actual physical

34:27 Speaker 2: piece of metal that was constructed in a zero gravity

34:30 Speaker 2: environment in space, and if you hit it with enough energy,

34:33 Speaker 2: it becomes weightless.

34:35 Speaker 1: Now I wouldn't say weightless. I don't know if we

34:36 Speaker 1: can make enough energy to do that, but yes, that

34:38 Speaker 1: is our plan, and not only and show the experiment.

34:41 Speaker 2: Well, if you can't give it enough energy to make

34:44 Speaker 2: it weightless, can you give it enough energy to reduce

34:47 Speaker 2: the mass. Yes, so it weighs less. Yes, And you

34:50 Speaker 2: can prove this yes, And that's why you can have

34:52 Speaker 2: a scale and you can put this piece of meat.

34:54 Speaker 2: I'll do scale, I'll do you better.

34:56 Speaker 1: It's it's not even that it's warping the space time

34:59 Speaker 1: continuum on on the objects. So you shoot. What you

35:02 Speaker 1: can do is you can shoot an electron over it.

35:04 Speaker 1: Why it's not a electron, and you collect it and

35:08 Speaker 1: time that and how do you shoot a single electron?

35:10 Speaker 1: If I know, I'm not a physicist. They just do

35:12 Speaker 1: this shit, that's what they do. So and I was

35:14 Speaker 1: actually on a phone call today about it. I talked

35:16 Speaker 1: for about forty five minutes in the car on the

35:18 Speaker 1: way up here about some of some of the.

35:20 Speaker 2: How would they even be able to regulate whether or

35:22 Speaker 2: not they have a single electron?

35:24 Speaker 1: Well, fuck, they're doing crazier shit than that at CERN.

35:27 Speaker 1: At CERN, they're taking particles of atoms and they're speeding

35:30 Speaker 1: them up to light speed almost like yeah, and slamming

35:33 Speaker 1: them into each other. So I'm not too worried about

35:35 Speaker 1: electron electrons.

35:36 Speaker 2: And a photon normous building. That's I think it's what

35:40 Speaker 2: is it cerns like ten miles in the way.

35:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've seen an electron microscope, right, it's like

35:45 Speaker 1: the size of half of this st.

35:46 Speaker 2: But I'm saying, they're launching a single electron at this thing.

35:50 Speaker 1: And I think that's what they do. Yeah, they do

35:53 Speaker 1: that with photons too. By the way I read, I

35:55 Speaker 1: read a really cool study about single photons, and consciousness

35:59 Speaker 1: was in an acting with it, just just by thinking

36:02 Speaker 1: it was changing the way the photon went. It's crazy.

36:05 Speaker 1: So what happens is is you shoot this electron and

36:07 Speaker 1: you know how fast it is to travel over this

36:09 Speaker 1: piece of metal. Then you then you radiate it with

36:12 Speaker 1: terror hurts, and then you radiated with ter You're you're

36:16 Speaker 1: you're electrifying and charging the piece of material.

36:18 Speaker 2: You know, it's a terror hurts.

36:19 Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a high frequency wave. I don't

36:22 Speaker 1: want to pretend I know that much about it. I

36:24 Speaker 1: just know that the earlier tests were with radio waves

36:27 Speaker 1: like RF and UH, and they need to do terror hurts.

36:30 Speaker 1: So I don't know much more than that. So and

36:32 Speaker 1: so by radio, by shooting terror hurts at it, the

36:36 Speaker 1: piece of metal can lose mass. And then when you

36:38 Speaker 1: shoot an electron over it, it'll be a different time

36:42 Speaker 1: than the other one when it's not turned on. Does

36:44 Speaker 1: that make sense? No, the time it takes for an

36:47 Speaker 1: electron to go over the piece of metal.

36:49 Speaker 2: What's that, Jamie?

36:50 Speaker 4: This is why I type in terror hurts imaging.

36:52 Speaker 2: Laser guided codes, advanced single pixel tele terror hurts imagery.

36:57 Speaker 2: And this uh be the imageesmpled upon instructions from a

37:02 Speaker 2: laser A the terror hertz light passes through the object

37:05 Speaker 2: and then see the information is collected to reconstruct the image.

37:10 Speaker 2: Look at that. So with this stuff's just an imaging technique.

37:14 Speaker 1: But you're timing how fast it takes an electronic to

37:17 Speaker 1: move over the surface of the metal. Then you charge

37:20 Speaker 1: the metal, and then you're timing the exact same thing,

37:23 Speaker 1: and there will be different times. And the positive result

37:26 Speaker 1: is that it lost mass, so it traveled faster or

37:28 Speaker 1: slower or whatever the hell is supposed to happen.

37:31 Speaker 2: And so I would imagine that this just this piece

37:34 Speaker 2: of metal, if it exists, would be kind of game over.

37:37 Speaker 2: If you brought this piece of metal to the most

37:40 Speaker 2: advanced scientists and metallurgy or whatever they would be that

37:44 Speaker 2: would understand this kind of shit. Yeah, And it's.

37:47 Speaker 1: Already been there. But the problem is, is there.

37:49 Speaker 2: Anywhere online where people can read about this?

37:51 Speaker 1: There actually is. There's some of this stuff, not this

37:54 Speaker 1: piece in particular, that came out as arts parts on

37:57 Speaker 1: arts bell a long time ago, and there are different

37:59 Speaker 1: layers business and magnesium. But this one came from a

38:05 Speaker 1: crash in forty eight, not the forty seven. And I

38:08 Speaker 1: know nothing more about it, but I don't think it's

38:10 Speaker 1: anything They're going to come in here with the chain

38:11 Speaker 1: of custody. You'd say this came from air Force or

38:13 Speaker 1: something like that. You know, I don't know who has this.

38:16 Speaker 2: So you're going to bring this and demonstrate this to people?

38:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the reason is is because we need to.

38:22 Speaker 1: We're also going to show videos that just got declassified

38:26 Speaker 1: from our most advanced systems. I think they call it

38:29 Speaker 1: the AEGIS system. It's a radar system and forward looking

38:33 Speaker 1: in for read of UFOs. I have those in possession

38:36 Speaker 1: actually already, and so we're going to show the videos

38:38 Speaker 1: that just I mean the first time in history by

38:40 Speaker 1: the way that videos of UFOs have been declassified. There's

38:44 Speaker 1: been leaks and there's been people catching shit on their phones,

38:47 Speaker 1: but I have all the chain of custody, all the

38:49 Speaker 1: documents and everything, and we just got those a few

38:51 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and there's a shitload more coming. And so

38:54 Speaker 1: we'll release the videos and we'll show the experiment as

38:57 Speaker 1: a proof of concept so everyone knows the shit's because

39:00 Speaker 1: right now they're just looking at a drawing and they're

39:02 Speaker 1: looking at this guy from the skunk Works, you know,

39:04 Speaker 1: and just going, how the fuck are they going to

39:05 Speaker 1: build a machine that plays with time and plays with

39:08 Speaker 1: the fabric of space time, And so we have to

39:11 Speaker 1: kind of educate people and say it's possible, it's possible. Interesting, Yeah,

39:15 Speaker 1: that's it.

39:15 Speaker 2: There advanced electro gravit gravitic propulsions that I say that

39:22 Speaker 2: electrogravitic gravitic.

39:24 Speaker 1: So what that does, what the machine does that we're building,

39:27 Speaker 1: is there's a there's an electromagnetic wave that is the

39:32 Speaker 1: foundation of everything, of all mass of everything. Like it's

39:35 Speaker 1: some people call it zero point energy, some people call

39:38 Speaker 1: it the vacuum energy, but like one inch of air

39:42 Speaker 1: could power the United States for like hundreds of years

39:45 Speaker 1: kind of thing, or maybe more so, what they got

39:47 Speaker 1: to do is isolate very specific atoms to where all

39:51 Speaker 1: the noise of all matter and cell phones and everything

39:53 Speaker 1: that's going on Earth can be can be separated from

39:56 Speaker 1: this one atom. And if you can do that with

39:59 Speaker 1: the right material, you can get access to that electromagnetic

40:03 Speaker 1: wave that's powering the atom, the the invisible wave pattern

40:07 Speaker 1: that that's under everything of all existence. And once you

40:10 Speaker 1: do that, it's not like splitting an atom. This is

40:13 Speaker 1: the power behind the atom. It's extraordinarily dangerous, but it's

40:18 Speaker 1: also what will turn that thing on and it'll turn

40:21 Speaker 1: into a ball of light and just disappear. And I

40:23 Speaker 1: could show you a video of of something doing that

40:26 Speaker 1: that's actually on YouTube, you know, Okay, Jim, I would

40:30 Speaker 1: I would have to. I could search it for a second.

40:33 Speaker 1: How about this, Well there's no commercial breaks, is there?

40:35 Speaker 2: No fuck se Just describe it, search it?

40:41 Speaker 1: You know what? If you type in astra uh the

40:46 Speaker 1: t R three b astra TR three B and I'll

40:51 Speaker 1: walk over there. I walk over there for a second,

40:53 Speaker 1: so much one of.

40:57 Speaker 2: So we can talk to each other.

40:59 Speaker 1: So what you wanted? It's coming down here, and do

41:02 Speaker 1: you do your your.

41:03 Speaker 2: People get to uh, they'll be able to see it.

41:05 Speaker 2: We'll put it up on the screen. So what what

41:08 Speaker 2: this is?

41:11 Speaker 1: Well? I don't really want to tell you what it is,

41:12 Speaker 1: but I want you to watch it. Is that that's

41:16 Speaker 1: not it's page. I'll find it for you. Just takes

41:20 Speaker 1: me a second. There's a bunch of the ship. This

41:22 Speaker 1: is the craft by the way, nuts, And did you

41:26 Speaker 1: spell it right? Astro? That's why.

41:29 Speaker 5: Sorry, Astra Astra not Astro, you're typing out.

41:36 Speaker 1: We just gotta get we gotta get make sure it's

41:37 Speaker 1: the right one.

41:39 Speaker 2: We're looking on YouTube, ladies and gentlemen, if you're in

41:41 Speaker 2: your car right now, going what the fuck is going

41:44 Speaker 2: on in the show? Most the vast majority of the

41:47 Speaker 2: people just listen to this show. So for the people

41:50 Speaker 2: that are just listening and you want to go, check

41:52 Speaker 2: it out, t R thirty eight Astra Aurora Project through

41:57 Speaker 2: this af oh three b.

42:00 Speaker 1: Sorry, this is the Craft and Secret Machines Book. That's

42:03 Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say.

42:04 Speaker 2: And this thing is floating in the air.

42:09 Speaker 1: It'll take a few seconds until they turn on the engine.

42:14 Speaker 2: That looks pretty bad ass.

42:15 Speaker 1: Wait, you can see a little lights dancing around on

42:17 Speaker 1: the bottom. But I think this was leaked on purpose

42:21 Speaker 1: because the guy's making it just hard enough to see

42:23 Speaker 1: moving the cameraund in and out of focus.

42:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like it's got like he's barely focusing. Boy,

42:30 Speaker 2: that looks like a drone. Well it looks small too,

42:33 Speaker 2: it's not.

42:34 Speaker 1: That's pretty big. I would think that one's about forty feet. Really,

42:37 Speaker 1: look see the tail fins on the back. That's how

42:39 Speaker 1: you know it's not alien per se. It's built off

42:41 Speaker 1: I think technology that came from there. But you know

42:46 Speaker 1: they don't need vertical tail stabilize.

42:48 Speaker 2: What's that big?

42:49 Speaker 1: Like, okay, this is the engine. They turn it on.

42:51 Speaker 1: So right now they're accessing that energy I told you about.

42:54 Speaker 1: Now and watch what happens.

42:57 Speaker 2: It's gone. There's a pilot in that I was in

43:00 Speaker 2: a movie. I'd want my money back. Why this movie

43:04 Speaker 2: can suck my dick? Why? Why do I so fake?

43:06 Speaker 1: Oh you think that? Yeah?

43:08 Speaker 2: Look fake? What is that? Tr three b ors is real?

43:10 Speaker 2: The another ones.

43:11 Speaker 1: Is the same one, but these ones are stacked, And

43:13 Speaker 1: that's a drone that came out of one.

43:15 Speaker 2: That's a drone. The small one is the little thing

43:18 Speaker 2: that came out the side.

43:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. But if you you can look up Black Triangle

43:21 Speaker 1: ufhone and find hundreds of these videos.

43:23 Speaker 2: So these are people with civilians that are getting this

43:27 Speaker 2: from the ground by filming this.

43:29 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know where this one came

43:30 Speaker 1: one came from.

43:31 Speaker 2: This is not the same account as the last video.

43:33 Speaker 5: It's a different videot up next because it's probably a

43:36 Speaker 5: highly viewed TR three B videos.

43:38 Speaker 2: Right, how many views this out?

43:39 Speaker 4: Four and seventy four thousand?

43:41 Speaker 1: Damn, there's one hundreds that there's so many people know

43:44 Speaker 1: now there's hundreds of these out there, but no that

43:46 Speaker 1: separates from the other one. But everyone thinks. Everyone thinks

43:51 Speaker 1: it's alien, and that's not my belief.

43:53 Speaker 2: So you think this is something along the lines like

43:55 Speaker 2: when they had the stealth bomber program. They were experimenting

43:58 Speaker 2: with these things. What do you think of Robert Are

44:00 Speaker 2: Do you think that guy's real?

44:01 Speaker 1: I'm putting out his autobiography, so you do think he's

44:03 Speaker 1: legit and should read his book? Yeah?

44:05 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah. He's a fascinating character, right he is.

44:09 Speaker 1: He is. His story is really interesting too where he

44:13 Speaker 1: really fucked up though, So for the people that don't

44:15 Speaker 1: know that are listening, he's a guy that came out.

44:18 Speaker 1: He's the reason we know about Area fifty one. He

44:21 Speaker 1: literally is the is the guy that broke the story

44:25 Speaker 1: of its existence. He got brought in for a job

44:29 Speaker 1: and during the interviews, they said, we have another idea

44:32 Speaker 1: for you, and they put him in a place he

44:35 Speaker 1: claims had all these discs and he was on a

44:38 Speaker 1: back engineering team as a physicist. But what happened was

44:42 Speaker 1: they rushed him in there because, per his story, they

44:44 Speaker 1: tried to cut into one of the propulsion devices and

44:47 Speaker 1: it exploded and killed a bunch of scientists. So the

44:50 Speaker 1: Nevada Test Site, which is the area where Area fifty

44:52 Speaker 1: one and all that stuff is, released a statement that

44:54 Speaker 1: they were just doing a small little nuke test, but

44:56 Speaker 1: it was really because of this thing, and so they

44:58 Speaker 1: rushed him in there with out doing all of his

45:00 Speaker 1: background checks because it takes six months to a year.

45:03 Speaker 1: And during those background checks he was already working on

45:06 Speaker 1: this stuff. They found that his wife was going a

45:11 Speaker 1: little haywire because he couldn't tell her what she was

45:13 Speaker 1: what he was doing, and he would leave in the

45:15 Speaker 1: middle of the night. He'd be gone for a week,

45:17 Speaker 1: and she was getting fed up, and so she started

45:19 Speaker 1: having an affair. And so they're listening in on all

45:21 Speaker 1: the phone calls and checking them out and they're kind

45:23 Speaker 1: of going. His home life is unstable, so they stopped

45:25 Speaker 1: calling him to come into work while they figure it out.

45:28 Speaker 1: He knows, I mean, he's working next to a guy

45:30 Speaker 1: with a machine gun. He knows that this is no

45:34 Speaker 1: fucking joke. No one knows what he's been doing. He

45:37 Speaker 1: thought he did something wrong. So, as the nervous individual

45:41 Speaker 1: he is, he runs to his friends and says, this

45:44 Speaker 1: is what I've been doing. This is what I've been

45:45 Speaker 1: working on. There's alien craft. It's over here at Groom

45:47 Speaker 1: Lake and the tests are every Wednesday night at eight o'clock.

45:51 Speaker 1: And his wife goes, holy shit, and his friend goes,

45:53 Speaker 1: holy shit, and he goes, come on, I'll show you.

45:55 Speaker 1: So they drive through hours North Vegas outside in public

45:57 Speaker 1: land and they videotape and watched these UFOs come up

46:00 Speaker 1: and be tested and dart around and disappear, and he goes,

46:03 Speaker 1: that's the one I'm working on. And it's almost like, well,

46:05 Speaker 1: how did you know what time? Because I'm working on it. Well,

46:07 Speaker 1: he does this three times, I think it was three times,

46:09 Speaker 1: and on the third time they got caught because there's

46:11 Speaker 1: I've been there. There's security that that travels those mountain

46:14 Speaker 1: joys here about those guys out there in the area

46:16 Speaker 1: fifty one And when they caught him, they were like,

46:19 Speaker 1: holy fuck. He's He's like, what the fuck is he doing?

46:22 Speaker 4: You know?

46:23 Speaker 1: Why is he telling everything? So he runs to the

46:25 Speaker 1: news station with George Knapp, who's another he's a host

46:30 Speaker 1: on Coast to Coast, and he tells him what he's doing,

46:33 Speaker 1: and he just goes live on Las Vegas News and

46:36 Speaker 1: it caught like wild fire across the world. And so

46:40 Speaker 1: then these guys grabbed him, put him in a room,

46:42 Speaker 1: put a gun to his head and said, when we

46:44 Speaker 1: told you not to say anything, we didn't mean say everything,

46:47 Speaker 1: you know, And he got really scared. They started fucking

46:50 Speaker 1: with him. I was actually in a meeting two nights

46:52 Speaker 1: ago talking about some of the things he did. One

46:53 Speaker 1: of the things he did he went to a gym.

46:55 Speaker 1: He used to he didn't have access to a lot

46:57 Speaker 1: of guns, but for some fucking reason, he had like

46:58 Speaker 1: an oozy. It was in his glove compartment. He goes

47:01 Speaker 1: to a gym and he comes out and his car

47:02 Speaker 1: doors are open, the glove compartment is open, and the

47:05 Speaker 1: oozy's just sitting on his chair. He got shot out

47:07 Speaker 1: on the freeway, and they erased a bunch of his records,

47:12 Speaker 1: and he's still to this day really nervous about it.

47:14 Speaker 1: He always claimed he for a while he claimed he

47:17 Speaker 1: had part of this is what I will say. He

47:19 Speaker 1: claimed the energy source was an element that was very

47:23 Speaker 1: heavy and it was like unopennium or something like that,

47:26 Speaker 1: one fifteen element, And twenty five years ago he talked

47:30 Speaker 1: all about it. He's and then literally three years ago,

47:33 Speaker 1: maybe four, they added it to the periodic table.

47:36 Speaker 2: What is this stuff called? Again?

47:37 Speaker 1: I think it's called unopinnium. It's one element one fifteen.

47:41 Speaker 1: It's on and that's the other thing it's People don't

47:43 Speaker 1: really holy shit. Twenty five years ago he says, this

47:46 Speaker 1: element comes from a binary star system and it's really heavy.

47:49 Speaker 1: There's a certain isotope that's stable. They'll find it and

47:52 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden. I remember one day I

47:53 Speaker 1: was driving my car and I heard it like on CNN,

47:55 Speaker 1: new element added to the periodic table. I was like,

47:57 Speaker 1: holy shit, you know, but it's pretty interesting, crazy story.

48:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they erased his his story. What what is

48:05 Speaker 2: the claim that he they had erased his educational record.

48:09 Speaker 1: Well, I think he might have people I don't know

48:12 Speaker 1: if I think this because I don't even I don't know.

48:14 Speaker 1: I never researched it. But people that I know that

48:17 Speaker 1: have researched it think he might have kind of upgraded

48:19 Speaker 1: his resume, his resume a little bit, and maybe he

48:21 Speaker 1: didn't go to MI I t R.

48:24 Speaker 2: That was a claim. But they also said that he

48:26 Speaker 2: really did work for what's that lab in New Mexico.

48:30 Speaker 1: Oh, well, Lawrence Livermore and JPL, JPL JP Pasadena.

48:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, but but well, whatever it was, it was in

48:37 Speaker 2: New Mexico that they had found that he actually did

48:39 Speaker 2: work in the building, even though they tried to say

48:41 Speaker 2: that he didn't. Yah, maybe he did something with somebody.

48:45 Speaker 2: And however much of his store was true. Always gets

48:49 Speaker 2: fishy when you find one thing that's not true, like

48:51 Speaker 2: that he didn't go to MIT. You know Stanton Friedman,

48:54 Speaker 2: You know Stanton Fedman is Yeah, Stanton Friedman, who's a

48:57 Speaker 2: very famous UFO researcher. He's one of the main guys

49:01 Speaker 2: arguing that Bob Lazar is full of shit.

49:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what's interesting is there is, uh, there

49:07 Speaker 1: is a I know the guy that did all the

49:10 Speaker 1: research on that, and I know the guy that studied

49:12 Speaker 1: it for decades and uh, he's actually writing a forward

49:16 Speaker 1: on the book. It's the journalist this one like eight

49:20 Speaker 1: Peabody Awards and Emmys and shit. But George Knap, who

49:24 Speaker 1: I told you about, and he's just got like he

49:26 Speaker 1: can speak for hours on that tire that was on

49:29 Speaker 1: the Coast to coast show r. Yeah, he does like

49:31 Speaker 1: a couple sundays each month.

49:32 Speaker 2: Did you find that element? What is it? Element one fifteen?

49:37 Speaker 2: Is that what it's called?

49:39 Speaker 4: Popular mechanics?

49:40 Speaker 1: Article about it?

49:41 Speaker 3: Right here?

49:43 Speaker 2: Welcome element one fifteen. Now what's your real name? Researchers

49:46 Speaker 2: create element one fifteen the lab for the second time,

49:49 Speaker 2: over the first time, oh overall, in the first time

49:52 Speaker 2: in a decade, paving the way for its official status

49:54 Speaker 2: as a member of the Periodic Table. And so google

49:57 Speaker 2: Bob Lazar element one to fifteen, because that would think

50:00 Speaker 2: that if he knew that like that long ago, like

50:03 Speaker 2: that alone would make people want to take him more seriously. Yeah,

50:06 Speaker 2: all the stuff that he said, Well, first of all,

50:07 Speaker 2: we know that there is a Groom Lake. We know

50:09 Speaker 2: that there is an area fifty one. We know they

50:11 Speaker 2: denied its existence, and so they wanted to expand the

50:13 Speaker 2: perimeter until they wanted to, because people would sit on

50:17 Speaker 2: a ledge and they would watch all these test flights

50:20 Speaker 2: of whatever the fuck they had, whatever it was they

50:22 Speaker 2: were doing, where they're working on stealth bombers, whatever it was.

50:25 Speaker 2: People would film this, and so they wanted to expand

50:28 Speaker 2: the perimeter a prohibited area, and so in doing so

50:32 Speaker 2: they had to admit the existence of the base itself.

50:34 Speaker 2: I believe that was in the nineties, right.

50:37 Speaker 1: It was in the nineties they expanded the perimeter. Something

50:40 Speaker 1: else that the government had to do is they had

50:42 Speaker 1: to admit UFOs are real because there was some military

50:46 Speaker 1: people look at it. Yeah, he talks about one fifteen

50:49 Speaker 1: all through this.

50:49 Speaker 2: And what year is this, Jamie does it say the

50:52 Speaker 2: video on the bottom? What it was this put out

50:56 Speaker 2: this video?

50:57 Speaker 1: Well, this one here's twenty fifteen. But the video is

50:59 Speaker 1: taken on eh old as fuck. This is right nineteen ninety.

51:03 Speaker 2: Maybe it's on the sci Fi channel back when it

51:06 Speaker 2: was spelled sci fi.

51:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone uses a lot y f y.

51:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's old as fuck. Yeah, play some of that though,

51:14 Speaker 2: because that dude's a trip, because he's one of those

51:16 Speaker 2: weird guys where if you're even if you're a skeptical guy.

51:19 Speaker 2: You listen to Bob Wizar talking like this guy's obviously

51:23 Speaker 2: smart as fuck.

51:23 Speaker 3: Team who he is In the top of the reactor

51:27 Speaker 3: and the base of the reactor apparently is a small

51:33 Speaker 3: something similar to a cyclotron. It's a particle accelerator. A

51:38 Speaker 3: particle is accelerated to high speed and then deflected up

51:43 Speaker 3: a small tube and it's aimed at the one fifteen.

51:47 Speaker 3: This transmutes the one fifteen, similar to the way we

51:52 Speaker 3: we do that in a normal particle accelerator. This causes

51:57 Speaker 3: a reaction, a radiation emission that we really haven't seen before.

52:03 Speaker 3: It produces antimatter. This antimatter is guided down a tune

52:08 Speaker 3: tube and reacts with a gas. When matter and anti

52:14 Speaker 3: matter react, they convert to one hundred percent energy. This

52:20 Speaker 3: energy is converted heat energy is converted to electrical power

52:25 Speaker 3: in the reactor itself. This is done through a thermoelectric

52:30 Speaker 3: converting and this electrical power is used to power other

52:34 Speaker 3: subsystems on the craft, though there is no wiring you know,

52:38 Speaker 3: as we would know it. Uh. Also that's almost a

52:42 Speaker 3: byproduct of the reactor. The reactor also sets up a

52:45 Speaker 3: gravitational wave from the one point fifteen being bombarded. This

52:49 Speaker 3: gravitational wave is present at the top of the reactor

52:52 Speaker 3: and is essentially guided in the same way microwaves are

52:55 Speaker 3: guided through tuned tubes, and this goes to their amplifying

53:00 Speaker 3: cavities and through the projectors that are in the bottom

53:02 Speaker 3: of the craft.

53:03 Speaker 2: Got I wish I was smart enough to know one

53:04 Speaker 2: the ice full of shit.

53:05 Speaker 1: Well, so what he's saying is that there's a gravity

53:10 Speaker 1: wave that's accessible on a really large element that extends

53:13 Speaker 1: beyond the perimeter of the atom. And when you bombard

53:16 Speaker 1: that element with one particle kind of like what we

53:19 Speaker 1: were talking about before, it goes through a tune tube,

53:21 Speaker 1: like a very tiny miniature cern. It turns like a

53:24 Speaker 1: big magnet holds a particle in a very specific spot

53:26 Speaker 1: at hovers, it shoots, and it hits that it decays,

53:29 Speaker 1: it becomes this matter anti matter reaction. These generators can

53:33 Speaker 1: convert all that energy into power, and then they can

53:36 Speaker 1: amplify that wave that's coming off and emanating from that element,

53:40 Speaker 1: and they amplify it like you would amplify a radio wave. Now,

53:44 Speaker 1: there's no wires in the craft because most likely it

53:46 Speaker 1: was three D printed. We didn't know about three D

53:48 Speaker 1: printing back then. I've talked to Bob about this, but

53:51 Speaker 1: not just three three D printing, you know, just the materials,

53:55 Speaker 1: but atomically aligning the elements so consciousness and other types

54:01 Speaker 1: of things can move through those materials to operate the craft.

54:06 Speaker 1: It's really so.

54:06 Speaker 2: They're operating it without buttons, right, operating it. So that

54:10 Speaker 2: was one theoretically, he said. Theoretically right was that there

54:13 Speaker 2: was handprints and that you know, there were much different

54:17 Speaker 2: shaped hands than ours. Yeah, and this craft that he

54:21 Speaker 2: had found inside one of these bays in area fifty one,

54:24 Speaker 2: he realized very quickly that it wasn't something that we

54:27 Speaker 2: had created, and that it was somehow another powered through

54:30 Speaker 2: intention yep, that would go through like touch or feel

54:34 Speaker 2: or put their hands would be on this thing, and

54:36 Speaker 2: consciously you would somehow another control all the various aspects

54:40 Speaker 2: of this machine exactly exactly. Though it sounds good, doesn't it. God,

54:43 Speaker 2: I want to believe so hard.

54:46 Speaker 1: Well, I hope you do, because there's gonna be there's

54:49 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of stuff on.

54:50 Speaker 2: But I want to know what you've seen though, So

54:52 Speaker 2: you've seen this piece of metal what else have you seen.

54:54 Speaker 1: I've seen many many documents on the studies of these things,

55:00 Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot of the science associated with

55:05 Speaker 1: what the technology is and what it does. Like I

55:09 Speaker 1: could show you if I fold up pieces of paper

55:11 Speaker 1: and stuff what's going on with it. But basically, you

55:15 Speaker 1: know these craft you know when when you they travel

55:19 Speaker 1: in a straight line, but they're folding space.

55:21 Speaker 2: Tip in Event Horizon where they explain it by folding

55:24 Speaker 2: a piece of paper and punching a pencil through it.

55:26 Speaker 2: Do you ever see that movie?

55:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like but it's more like,

55:31 Speaker 1: you know, here, I can draw it for you here,

55:32 Speaker 1: not that this is a It's kind of like when

55:35 Speaker 1: you have two points. You know, we're used to traveling

55:39 Speaker 1: in a direction like that, and so when we look up,

55:42 Speaker 1: we see a plane that goes straight right, But these

55:45 Speaker 1: these UFOs fold space time like this, uh, and so

55:52 Speaker 1: it looks like to them they're going in a straight line.

55:55 Speaker 1: So if you're in the ship, you see that, But

55:58 Speaker 1: if you're on the ground, you see that.

56:00 Speaker 2: Okay, that's why you see them blink off.

56:02 Speaker 1: And on a lot of those videos they're on, they

56:05 Speaker 1: it looks like they're jumping. It's just because of this.

56:08 Speaker 2: So they're holding space time some way of interfacing with

56:11 Speaker 2: space itself that's very different than our idea of traveling

56:14 Speaker 2: in a linear way from point A to point base space.

56:17 Speaker 1: The fabric. They call it the fabric of space time

56:19 Speaker 1: because it's like a fabric, it's malleable.

56:22 Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this. How often into a

56:24 Speaker 2: conversation to people look at you and think you are

56:26 Speaker 2: fucking crazy when you start talking about this and how

56:28 Speaker 2: all the time?

56:29 Speaker 1: Yeah?

56:29 Speaker 2: All the time? Right, But do you ever get to

56:31 Speaker 2: the point where like, I don't.

56:31 Speaker 1: Want to talk about this, No, because it's it's you.

56:35 Speaker 1: I always tell you you don't know what I know.

56:37 Speaker 1: You know, and there's a lot.

56:38 Speaker 4: No.

56:38 Speaker 2: No, I mean like, do you ever get to the

56:39 Speaker 2: point where you're like, I can't do this anymore now

56:41 Speaker 2: people think I'm fucking crazy.

56:42 Speaker 1: No, because I'm involved on the most important shit I've

56:45 Speaker 1: ever been in my life.

56:46 Speaker 2: I think this is like the most important thing that

56:48 Speaker 2: you've ever done.

56:49 Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah, Like I have meetings with senators coming up,

56:52 Speaker 1: Like fuck yeah what senators?

56:54 Speaker 2: I can't tell you Damn, it's all this. I can't

56:56 Speaker 2: tell you stuff I know because this is some trend shit.

56:59 Speaker 2: When is all this going to come out out? Like

57:00 Speaker 2: it seems like this is like emiment eminent rather disclosure

57:04 Speaker 2: type ship.

57:04 Speaker 1: Watch what my company does, That's what I'll say.

57:06 Speaker 2: So what is your company? What do you what are

57:08 Speaker 2: you trying to do? Well?

57:09 Speaker 1: We created so if you look at the people involved, uh,

57:12 Speaker 1: we have senior high When you get to the senior

57:16 Speaker 1: levels of government, you're either called an se S or

57:18 Speaker 1: si S Senior Intelligence Service, Senior Executive Service, or your brass.

57:22 Speaker 1: But either way, the civilians have the same kind of

57:25 Speaker 1: rinking charter that that the brass does. So s c

57:27 Speaker 1: S three SAS three three would be the same thing

57:30 Speaker 1: as a three star general. So that's that's who these

57:33 Speaker 1: people are around me. So I had the head of

57:35 Speaker 1: the skunk Works Engineering, I got, you know, SIS two

57:39 Speaker 1: star from the clandestine director at of Operations. I have

57:42 Speaker 1: a guy under Secretary of Intelligence for the Senate Intelligence

57:46 Speaker 1: Committee and was.

57:48 Speaker 2: These guys are retired, the quasi quasi requid. Well, they

57:52 Speaker 2: all they all left. They are our current life. They

57:55 Speaker 2: now are involved the way you're doing the way they.

57:58 Speaker 1: Are current consulting to the internet, the intelligence community. Okay,

58:02 Speaker 1: that's a probably.

58:03 Speaker 2: The main involved in this project with clearance.

58:06 Speaker 1: They all have their Top secret tssec I clearances. Yeah,

58:11 Speaker 1: I'm the only one that does it on my entire team,

58:13 Speaker 1: I'm the only one that does. Actually, Lou that just

58:16 Speaker 1: came out, I hired him away. So he was head

58:19 Speaker 1: of all He was in charge of all classified operations

58:26 Speaker 1: for Secretary of Defense Mattis. So he was what's called

58:29 Speaker 1: just fifteen right underneath the one, two and three stars.

58:33 Speaker 1: He ran the Advanced Aerial Threat Program and it's still

58:37 Speaker 1: continuing to this day and he's with US now.

58:39 Speaker 2: So the Advanced Aerial Threat Program under the United States

58:42 Speaker 2: government is essentially a UFO that's one of the minimation,

58:47 Speaker 2: gathering and assessment.

58:48 Speaker 1: Assessment of all of the of what those machines are

58:53 Speaker 1: doing that gives off all these types of effects that

58:58 Speaker 1: people are witnessing. But there's also a very large group

59:01 Speaker 1: of people that have had within government, that have had

59:04 Speaker 1: close contact, like hundreds and it's connected to my group,

59:08 Speaker 1: and there's just more coming in that way. So that

59:11 Speaker 1: program is trying to figure out what those technologies did

59:15 Speaker 1: to those people and how those technologies work. Even though

59:22 Speaker 1: and it's more sabatellite, it's more about tasking, you know,

59:25 Speaker 1: our assets like satellites and other things to be able

59:28 Speaker 1: to find these things better. But this is different than

59:32 Speaker 1: the Secret Machines book, which is more of another thing.

59:35 Speaker 2: Although so is there communication between the United States government

59:39 Speaker 2: and alien life forms?

59:40 Speaker 1: I personally, I mean, I don't know any of this

59:43 Speaker 1: stuff because I'm not invited to those types of meetings,

59:46 Speaker 1: But I personally wouldn't doubt it.

59:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't doubt it. But they have never alluded

59:51 Speaker 2: to it or discussed it with you in any way.

59:53 Speaker 1: Not this group of people know.

59:54 Speaker 2: Is there any speculation as to what they're doing?

59:58 Speaker 1: Resource extraction?

59:59 Speaker 2: Resource extraction like our like minerals.

1:00:01 Speaker 1: Empire buildings. Tell people, no, I think it's cheese. I

1:00:06 Speaker 1: think it's tacos. I think you know they're here for

1:00:10 Speaker 1: the same reason I am, but uh, I tell people like,

1:00:13 Speaker 1: A good way to look at this is like, look

1:00:15 Speaker 1: at Syria, and Syria is and chaos because the United

1:00:19 Speaker 1: States and Russia are having a proxy war there. Now

1:00:21 Speaker 1: look at the Earth. It's the exact same thing. Different

1:00:25 Speaker 1: races are coming here and uh and they're trying to

1:00:28 Speaker 1: win and there's more than one Yeah, yeah, different ones

1:00:32 Speaker 1: verse we're talking about it. I don't I don't know

1:00:34 Speaker 1: how many.

1:00:34 Speaker 2: I don't know, but there's a bunch of different creatures

1:00:36 Speaker 2: and they all have the same sort of technology, and.

1:00:37 Speaker 1: Some are very human, some are looked just like you,

1:00:40 Speaker 1: and I really absolutely yeah.

1:00:43 Speaker 2: Now, is there any sort of speculation as to why

1:00:46 Speaker 2: life forms from other planets, other galaxies of the Solar systems,

1:00:49 Speaker 2: different kind of gravity, different environments would create a life

1:00:52 Speaker 2: form that's exactly similar to us? Or are they imitating

1:00:56 Speaker 2: what we look like in order to infiltrate our world

1:01:00 Speaker 2: to hang with us?

1:01:01 Speaker 1: I think probably all. I think all the above. I mean, look,

1:01:04 Speaker 1: if you look at if you look at like Syria,

1:01:07 Speaker 1: are you just going to say it's only Russia in America?

1:01:10 Speaker 1: They're not China, It's probably there. France is probably there,

1:01:12 Speaker 1: you know. I personally think the little aliens with the

1:01:17 Speaker 1: big black eyes, those are androids. They're biological robots. They're

1:01:20 Speaker 1: just programmed. There's no different than us cloning sheep. They

1:01:24 Speaker 1: just clone a being that can travel through space because

1:01:26 Speaker 1: space or some sort.

1:01:27 Speaker 2: Of an artificial intelligence thing that doesn't have a life form, right.

1:01:30 Speaker 2: I've heard that idea before, and it kind of kind

1:01:34 Speaker 2: of makes sense a little bit, right. I mean, if

1:01:36 Speaker 2: if you're a living thing and you're traveling through space,

1:01:39 Speaker 2: obviously you have biological limitations in terms of the need

1:01:42 Speaker 2: for oxygen and gravitational interactions and all these different things.

1:01:47 Speaker 1: But one of the scariest hallmarks of those ones, the rumor,

1:01:51 Speaker 1: is it in the back of their head as a transmitter.

1:01:53 Speaker 1: So you got to wonder where it's sending shit. But

1:01:55 Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, I can tell you

1:01:57 Speaker 1: that when you look at the Bible, the angels and

1:02:00 Speaker 1: the demons of the Bible would be the humans and

1:02:02 Speaker 1: the androids that I just told you about.

1:02:05 Speaker 2: So you think the grays of the androids, right, and

1:02:08 Speaker 2: so you think they're like some sort of devil.

1:02:09 Speaker 1: No, I just think that that's how we characterized it

1:02:13 Speaker 1: because they come in control your thoughts, control your body,

1:02:16 Speaker 1: take because in the middle of the night, yeah, demons,

1:02:18 Speaker 1: you know.

1:02:19 Speaker 2: So do you think these things are traveling from? Where?

1:02:22 Speaker 2: Do we have any idea?

1:02:23 Speaker 1: There's things that have been put out there, but I've

1:02:25 Speaker 1: never asked Why would you not ask them? What the

1:02:28 Speaker 1: fuck you could tell me? Star System like four eight

1:02:30 Speaker 1: three and well.

1:02:30 Speaker 2: You know about element I would want to know about

1:02:33 Speaker 2: Starship Enterprise Coordinate one fifteen six five Polaris wherever the

1:02:40 Speaker 2: fuck it is.

1:02:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I do know

1:02:43 Speaker 1: that there's there's connections to man, you won't even believe it.

1:02:48 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that you want to please Atlantis.

1:02:51 Speaker 2: Atlantis, the sunken city. Yeah, there's a connection.

1:02:55 Speaker 1: There's a connection. What's the connection that there is a

1:02:58 Speaker 1: very advanced group that left after a catastrophe and hung

1:03:01 Speaker 1: around in a small outpost here and throughout time would

1:03:06 Speaker 1: push civilization forward. And that's who the Greek gods were.

1:03:09 Speaker 1: Whoa yep. And that's why it's very interesting when the

1:03:13 Speaker 1: Roswell recage there's Greek writing is there.

1:03:17 Speaker 2: I've never seen any of the records from Roswell view.

1:03:19 Speaker 1: It's online. You see type in Roswell records. You can

1:03:22 Speaker 1: see it.

1:03:22 Speaker 2: And what I've ever seen is the dude standing in

1:03:24 Speaker 2: front of the bullshit the weather balloon and stuff, laughing,

1:03:27 Speaker 2: yucking it up.

1:03:28 Speaker 1: Roswell wreckage, Roswell Ibeam. You'll see it and uh, and

1:03:31 Speaker 1: it's got these Greek markings as far and the witnesses

1:03:34 Speaker 1: that were there did did what do you call it?

1:03:38 Speaker 1: Where they go on on oath and tell so that

1:03:42 Speaker 1: actual I beam showing the word l furia, which means

1:03:47 Speaker 1: freedom in ancient Greek.

1:03:50 Speaker 2: Soie, let me tell you want to hear from me,

1:03:53 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've popped up on it.

1:03:55 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you something else. So I

1:03:57 Speaker 1: went and met a former director of CIA and NSA.

1:04:02 Speaker 1: He was director of both I won't tell you his name.

1:04:05 Speaker 1: And right when I sat down and told him about my.

1:04:07 Speaker 2: Book, pull a picture of again little hands.

1:04:09 Speaker 1: And right when I sat down and told him about

1:04:11 Speaker 1: you gotta this is a big deal. So I'm sitting

1:04:14 Speaker 1: with this guy, he was like, not that long ago

1:04:18 Speaker 1: was director of CIA and he went on to be

1:04:20 Speaker 1: director of NSA.

1:04:21 Speaker 2: Okay, well I think we can find his name maybe, but.

1:04:24 Speaker 1: Uh, right when I sat down and told him about

1:04:26 Speaker 1: the book, you know what he says to me? What

1:04:28 Speaker 1: he goes. I didn't read much science fiction as a kid,

1:04:30 Speaker 1: but I read a lot about Greek mythology. And looked

1:04:33 Speaker 1: me in the eye. I said, well, you're going to

1:04:34 Speaker 1: love the last page of my book. Then he's am

1:04:36 Speaker 1: I And uh. When my book was about ready to

1:04:40 Speaker 1: go to pressing, I had a very important person call

1:04:43 Speaker 1: me up. He says, can you stop that pressing and

1:04:46 Speaker 1: maybe insert something about Greek mythology, And I said, I

1:04:48 Speaker 1: sure can so on. Something you got to realize is,

1:04:52 Speaker 1: for example, the sixth biggest defense contractor in the world,

1:04:57 Speaker 1: at least they used to be six, is a company

1:04:59 Speaker 1: called Science Applica As International Corporation SA. I see their

1:05:02 Speaker 1: headquarters are actually in San Diego, and in the front

1:05:05 Speaker 1: of the building you have a an oblisque coming out

1:05:08 Speaker 1: of a fake lake and two Atlantean on thrones, and

1:05:13 Speaker 1: they're both holding pyramids, and one says the past and

1:05:16 Speaker 1: one says the future. It's in they're eight foot tall statues.

1:05:19 Speaker 1: It's fucking nuts, by the way, and say, I see

1:05:23 Speaker 1: they just they went over Toledos.

1:05:25 Speaker 2: Michael Hayden, former director of NSA and the CIA.

1:05:28 Speaker 1: What about it? No, that's I am, but I'm not

1:05:31 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna tell you. If you try and

1:05:32 Speaker 1: find out an you guys just fishing around.

1:05:34 Speaker 4: Over here, I'll say a name you blink, Yeah.

1:05:38 Speaker 2: I'll show you that was cute. I'll show you my

1:05:42 Speaker 2: dick like yeah, if you if you not sure what, yeah,

1:05:47 Speaker 2: whatever you.

1:05:48 Speaker 1: Get, I'm going to show you my dick.

1:05:50 Speaker 2: Right what do you think about all that Zechariah sitch

1:05:53 Speaker 2: and stuff.

1:05:54 Speaker 1: I think he was close. I don't think he was exact,

1:05:56 Speaker 1: but it's interpretive, you know, if I was to show

1:05:58 Speaker 1: you some symbols for people who don't know what that is.

1:06:00 Speaker 1: Zacharai As Sitchin is a Palestinian scholar that decoded a

1:06:04 Speaker 1: lot of ancient Sumerian texts that were written in Acadian.

1:06:08 Speaker 1: Sumer was like kind of the first civilization that was

1:06:11 Speaker 1: advanced that we even know of, just out of nowhere here,

1:06:13 Speaker 1: like thirty five hundred years before Christ. There's mathematics, astronomy

1:06:18 Speaker 1: and all this different shit. They knew all the planets.

1:06:20 Speaker 1: They said, there's an extra planet. But Zachariah Sitchin was

1:06:23 Speaker 1: the one that really spent a lot of time doing that,

1:06:25 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of other scholars that disagree. Now

1:06:29 Speaker 1: he can say, you know, in those texts is the

1:06:32 Speaker 1: story of the Garden of Eden, the Flood of Noah,

1:06:35 Speaker 1: like all that shit. But his take on it was

1:06:38 Speaker 1: those who from heaven to hearth came called the angels,

1:06:41 Speaker 1: but they were an advanced race. They fucked around with genetics.

1:06:45 Speaker 2: Well, that was his take on the definition of Nephilim

1:06:49 Speaker 2: theph yeah, which.

1:06:51 Speaker 1: You find you find that in Genesis the Nephilm, So

1:06:55 Speaker 1: you know, he was able to tell a really interesting

1:06:58 Speaker 1: story based on these techsxts. But some people don't agree

1:07:02 Speaker 1: with them. But at the end of the day, I

1:07:04 Speaker 1: think it's the closest thing we got. And in my

1:07:06 Speaker 1: early conversations when I was being given some interesting science

1:07:10 Speaker 1: fiction stuff for my book the Greek Mythology, part I

1:07:15 Speaker 1: brought up the Samerians and they showed me one particular king.

1:07:19 Speaker 1: They said this, we find this one very interesting, and

1:07:22 Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, but it fired so quick.

1:07:24 Speaker 1: When I asked the question, it came right back with

1:07:27 Speaker 1: this whole thing on this one Samerian king really interesting.

1:07:30 Speaker 2: Well, what's fascinating about them is that they really did

1:07:33 Speaker 2: know a lot about our solar system. And you think

1:07:36 Speaker 2: about the fact that they were around five thousand years ago.

1:07:38 Speaker 2: They had a detailed model of the Solar system with

1:07:40 Speaker 2: all of the planets, and they were all relatively close

1:07:44 Speaker 2: in size. This is a clay one of those clay

1:07:46 Speaker 2: cylinders that what you would do is you would put

1:07:49 Speaker 2: out a flat piece of clay and you would roll

1:07:52 Speaker 2: this cylinder over it, and that's how they would print things, yep,

1:07:56 Speaker 2: and this really sort of kind of primitive way of

1:08:00 Speaker 2: doing this. Somehow or another. They knew a lot about astronomy.

1:08:04 Speaker 2: I mean, they knew about the structure of our solar system.

1:08:07 Speaker 2: They knew where the planets were, right.

1:08:08 Speaker 1: Well, you got to remember Galileo was almost killed and

1:08:12 Speaker 1: confined to his house arrest because he said that the

1:08:16 Speaker 1: universe doesn't revolve around us. We revolve around the Sun.

1:08:19 Speaker 1: And that was way after that's four or five thousand

1:08:22 Speaker 1: years after the Sumerians that already knew that, you know,

1:08:25 Speaker 1: we weren't the center of the universe. So it's interesting.

1:08:28 Speaker 1: We were really smart and then we went kind of backwards,

1:08:31 Speaker 1: you know. And there's probably a bit more to that

1:08:34 Speaker 1: story too that hopefully one day we'll get into it.

1:08:36 Speaker 2: Well, it's just it's really interesting when you look at

1:08:39 Speaker 2: these ancient civilizations and their attempts to decipher the world

1:08:43 Speaker 2: around them, and you try to figure out what did

1:08:45 Speaker 2: they know, you know, how much did they know? The

1:08:48 Speaker 2: Sumerians are one of the more interesting cases to me

1:08:51 Speaker 2: because of the fact that they had this really bizarre

1:08:54 Speaker 2: map of the Solar system when you know, we didn't

1:08:57 Speaker 2: they found out about Pluto. They had an image of Pluto,

1:09:02 Speaker 2: and I don't think we found out about Pluto until

1:09:04 Speaker 2: like the early nineteen hundreds.

1:09:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pluto might have even been like fifteen.

1:09:09 Speaker 2: You see, if you can find that out.

1:09:11 Speaker 1: Pluto was found like like not even that long ago.

1:09:14 Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was as far back

1:09:16 Speaker 1: as the nightteen.

1:09:16 Speaker 2: See if you can find that out and then find

1:09:18 Speaker 2: the image of the Onanachi when they show the solar system,

1:09:21 Speaker 2: because the image is really fascinating because it is what

1:09:24 Speaker 2: it is. I mean, you look at it. There's a sun.

1:09:27 Speaker 2: I mean it's clearly a sun. It has like it's

1:09:29 Speaker 2: a large circle. It's in the sky and it has

1:09:32 Speaker 2: like those little sun sort of rays around it. Picture right, Yeah, Yeah,

1:09:37 Speaker 2: that's the picture.

1:09:38 Speaker 1: There you go. So you know they have an idea

1:09:41 Speaker 1: of where to look for this extra planet they thought.

1:09:44 Speaker 1: In the early nineties, JPL announced that they thought they

1:09:46 Speaker 1: found a companion to our son.

1:09:48 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look at that. I mean that's fucking radical right there. Yeah,

1:09:51 Speaker 2: it's crazy they have Pluto in there. Now go to

1:09:54 Speaker 2: the discovery of Pluto. When did Pluto get discovered? I

1:09:58 Speaker 2: think you're right, I think it was in the nineteen

1:09:59 Speaker 2: fifty I know it was sometime in the nineteen.

1:10:01 Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking about Disney's Pluto, which nineteen thirty, nineteen thirty,

1:10:05 Speaker 1: crazy crazy shit.

1:10:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, So these people somehow or another knew about Pluto

1:10:10 Speaker 2: fucking way before us. And this is not something you

1:10:14 Speaker 2: could see with the naked eye, so somehow or another,

1:10:17 Speaker 2: And nor were those other planets. I mean you could

1:10:19 Speaker 2: see a few of them. You could see Mars, and

1:10:20 Speaker 2: sometimes you could see Jupiter and maybe Saturn. Right, do

1:10:24 Speaker 2: you see Saturn? What are the ones you can see

1:10:26 Speaker 2: the naked eyes?

1:10:27 Speaker 1: You can see Saturn? Yeah?

1:10:28 Speaker 2: Bute? After that, like they had Uranus, You can't see Uranus.

1:10:31 Speaker 5: Just the other case, like the one time of I

1:10:34 Speaker 5: don't know, every twenty five years, you can barely see

1:10:36 Speaker 5: it with the naked eye. Urane last week or something

1:10:39 Speaker 5: like that. Uranople were at Griffith Observatory. It was like

1:10:42 Speaker 5: super crowded because of that.

1:10:43 Speaker 1: Are we not going to We're not gonna make jokes

1:10:45 Speaker 1: and about uranus?

1:10:46 Speaker 2: Right? No, because it's expected. Yeah, And were they looking

1:10:50 Speaker 2: at it with the naked eye with telescope? Mean, I

1:10:52 Speaker 2: feel like you could obviously to observed because.

1:10:55 Speaker 4: Everyone goes there. There's a bunch of telescopes already set up.

1:10:57 Speaker 2: Right, But that makes sense for telescopes, But why would

1:10:59 Speaker 2: the naked.

1:11:00 Speaker 4: Eye because it's one of the best place closest in

1:11:02 Speaker 4: La or I.

1:11:03 Speaker 2: Don't know, Okay, Yeah, La is weird because of the

1:11:06 Speaker 2: light pollution, right, No, it's so it's a big deal.

1:11:09 Speaker 1: Like that's why you know when you go to the

1:11:10 Speaker 1: desert and it's beautiful and whoa.

1:11:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what you're It was last week October nineteenh

1:11:14 Speaker 5: you could see with your naked eye uranus.

1:11:16 Speaker 1: You can see you guys are talking about naked and

1:11:18 Speaker 1: uranus a lot here. And I don't want to make

1:11:20 Speaker 1: any jokes. I'm not, but I'm just turing you're talking.

1:11:22 Speaker 2: About see uranus with your naked eye this week. Giggle

1:11:24 Speaker 2: if you must. Nice What a goofy name too? Like

1:11:29 Speaker 2: what all the different sounds you can make with your

1:11:31 Speaker 2: face and they chose your butthole?

1:11:33 Speaker 1: What if they just call it butthole?

1:11:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, butthole planet butthole, it would be just as weird.

1:11:37 Speaker 1: I would go there fucking crazy fast, be the first

1:11:40 Speaker 1: place I go.

1:11:41 Speaker 2: That would be the first place you'd visit in the

1:11:42 Speaker 2: planet buttle. Yeah, do you think that there's life in

1:11:45 Speaker 2: our solar system? I do. Where do you think it is? Europa? Really?

1:11:49 Speaker 2: So you think there's some sort of a primitive life

1:11:51 Speaker 2: form that's under the ice.

1:11:52 Speaker 1: I think there's life on Mars, and I think it's uh,

1:11:56 Speaker 1: we'll start from I think there's life on Mars. I

1:11:57 Speaker 1: think it's small little animals and microbial or you know, insects. Shit,

1:12:02 Speaker 1: that's kind of learning how to live with its radioactive environment, which,

1:12:06 Speaker 1: by the way, a bunch of scientists from JPILL found

1:12:10 Speaker 1: that there was some atomic weapons that went off on

1:12:15 Speaker 1: Mars because the radioactive signature is can only happen if

1:12:20 Speaker 1: you explode a nuclear weapon that's artificially made, not like

1:12:24 Speaker 1: a like something that happens naturally, like a moon exploding

1:12:27 Speaker 1: on the surface. So it's interesting.

1:12:29 Speaker 2: So did you read that.

1:12:31 Speaker 1: Oh shit, that's that's been all over the place. I

1:12:33 Speaker 1: forgot the guy's name, the doctor's name. He's a He

1:12:36 Speaker 1: actually was one of the lead scientists on Clementine mission,

1:12:39 Speaker 1: which was mapping the moon with JPL. So he's a

1:12:42 Speaker 1: he's a big time dude.

1:12:44 Speaker 2: And he thinks there was nuclear war.

1:12:45 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he did huge well. He doesn't say that.

1:12:48 Speaker 1: He just says that nuclear weapons. He just says, we

1:12:51 Speaker 1: have this signature. He all peer reviewed science that the

1:12:55 Speaker 1: signature of the radioactive activity from this very specific isotope

1:13:00 Speaker 1: that only comes from artificial nuclear explosion or something.

1:13:04 Speaker 2: Shit.

1:13:05 Speaker 1: I don't want to mess with.

1:13:06 Speaker 2: Some along those lines. Yeah, well, I'd heard before that

1:13:08 Speaker 2: they thought that somehow another Mars was impacted. Does something

1:13:11 Speaker 2: hit it like some sort of rasteroyal impact and it

1:13:14 Speaker 2: destroyed the environment.

1:13:15 Speaker 1: I think it's the if you type in nuclear weapon

1:13:17 Speaker 1: Mars or nukes on Mars or some shit, you'll find it.

1:13:20 Speaker 2: You go to Richard Hoagland's site.

1:13:23 Speaker 1: He kind of disappeared though.

1:13:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy was wacky as fuck, Like he was

1:13:27 Speaker 2: one of the He's the one of the main proponents

1:13:30 Speaker 2: of the face on Mars and all the pyramids that

1:13:32 Speaker 2: they found on Mars. They would find these weird connections

1:13:35 Speaker 2: between one point to another point and somehow another. They

1:13:38 Speaker 2: made some arbitrary distinctions that those were indicative of intelligent design.

1:13:44 Speaker 4: Musk wanted to drop nukes up there too.

1:13:45 Speaker 2: Good move. Elon Musk elaborates on the proposal to nuke Mars.

1:13:50 Speaker 1: How's that picture?

1:13:51 Speaker 2: Why not he's probably bored. He put on his Instagram

1:13:54 Speaker 2: last night he was cooking the hot dogs and marshmallows

1:13:56 Speaker 2: and singing along with Johnny Cash drinking whiskey. That's what

1:13:59 Speaker 2: he should be. I bet a fucking scientist. Yeah, that's

1:14:02 Speaker 2: Elon Musk for president. I'll vote for you, buddy. Come on,

1:14:05 Speaker 2: let's do it. Whyn't you talk to him? Man, he's

1:14:07 Speaker 2: already got space X once. You guys.

1:14:09 Speaker 1: The second thing we're doing he might really actually be

1:14:12 Speaker 1: interested in. And so the two aerospace projects to the

1:14:14 Speaker 1: Stars is doing. One is we're building something that will

1:14:18 Speaker 1: in effect be anti gravity, but it's actually that's actually

1:14:21 Speaker 1: not the mechanism it does in building a spacecraft. But

1:14:24 Speaker 1: the second thing that we're doing is called beamed energy propulsion,

1:14:26 Speaker 1: which is something I think must will be very interested in.

1:14:28 Speaker 1: It's launching cube SATs with lasers. So the Air Force

1:14:32 Speaker 1: Research Lab kind of broke the science back in the

1:14:35 Speaker 1: nineties and a bunch of people associated with that program

1:14:39 Speaker 1: got it declassified and they're working for us on building it.

1:14:43 Speaker 1: So it'll take a handful of years to do. But

1:14:45 Speaker 1: what you do is you use very strong either microwaves

1:14:48 Speaker 1: or some other kind of wave and it ignites and

1:14:50 Speaker 1: explodes the air underneath a mechanism that carries a cube set.

1:14:54 Speaker 1: And so essentially what happens is is you don't use

1:14:57 Speaker 1: any fossil fuels and it bring the cost of launching

1:15:01 Speaker 1: a CubeSat from like fifty grand down to five grand.

1:15:03 Speaker 1: It's like crazy. So that means colleges and neighbors and

1:15:07 Speaker 1: anyone else can launch CubeSats quite easily.

1:15:10 Speaker 2: Now, have you had any debates with people about this stuff?

1:15:13 Speaker 2: Have you ever had someone who thinks that this is

1:15:15 Speaker 2: all nonsense and sat down with you, understands physics and

1:15:18 Speaker 2: understands rocket propulsion and space and elements and all that shit.

1:15:24 Speaker 1: No, I have. I wouldn't be able to debate a physicist,

1:15:27 Speaker 1: but they can read all the papers, you.

1:15:28 Speaker 2: Know, right, But I mean, has anybody been skeptical? Is anybody?

1:15:31 Speaker 1: Yeah? Everyone skeptical?

1:15:32 Speaker 2: Yeah? And what's your response to that?

1:15:35 Speaker 1: You don't know what I know?

1:15:36 Speaker 2: Right?

1:15:37 Speaker 4: Well?

1:15:37 Speaker 2: What do you know? Though? They don't know?

1:15:39 Speaker 1: I can't tell you some of the shit that I know,

1:15:41 Speaker 1: and I can't tell you, But what.

1:15:43 Speaker 2: Could it be? That's so crazy? If you know? I mean,

1:15:45 Speaker 2: what you've said, Well, think about what you've said you

1:15:47 Speaker 2: said that there's some ridiculous sort of propulsion system that

1:15:52 Speaker 2: allows you to move through time, that they visit this

1:15:56 Speaker 2: planet all the time and extract resources. Right that there's

1:16:01 Speaker 2: people in the government that are trying to disseminate this information,

1:16:04 Speaker 2: but they don't know how to do it. They don't

1:16:05 Speaker 2: know the right vehicle do it. They're doing it in

1:16:07 Speaker 2: these sort of controlled chunks. Think of all these things

1:16:11 Speaker 2: that you said, what could possibly be crazier than that? Well,

1:16:14 Speaker 2: you're asking me how do I know? And no, no, no,

1:16:16 Speaker 2: I'm asking you, what do you know that could possibly

1:16:19 Speaker 2: be crazier than that?

1:16:20 Speaker 1: Well, that's the shit. I can't tell you. It's not

1:16:23 Speaker 1: everything's hunky dory.

1:16:24 Speaker 2: Is it something where you worried about the fate of

1:16:26 Speaker 2: the human race?

1:16:27 Speaker 1: I think that's part of it.

1:16:28 Speaker 2: Where should I move? If I was gonna move, it's

1:16:31 Speaker 2: not existentially if you dick out if I should go

1:16:32 Speaker 2: to Australia.

1:16:35 Speaker 1: How about how about it in Australia?

1:16:40 Speaker 2: I mean, where's the spot.

1:16:41 Speaker 1: I don't think there is one unfortunate spot. This is

1:16:44 Speaker 1: what I will say. It's not existential in the sense

1:16:47 Speaker 1: of they're not gonna come here like Independence Day in

1:16:49 Speaker 1: nuke the place. But there, you know, there are things

1:16:53 Speaker 1: to worry about. And that's why I think.

1:16:56 Speaker 2: Do you think there's anybody that's famous it's an alien? Oh?

1:16:59 Speaker 1: I don't know.

1:17:00 Speaker 2: Do you think that there's any influential figure that has

1:17:02 Speaker 2: been sort of shaping culture that might not be one

1:17:05 Speaker 2: of us? Oprah? Oh?

1:17:07 Speaker 1: For sure, it has to be Oprah.

1:17:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, But if you go back to the early days

1:17:10 Speaker 2: when Oprah used to do that stupid show, we should

1:17:12 Speaker 2: have like KKK members on and everybody sat on white

1:17:14 Speaker 2: plastic seats. Remember those days?

1:17:17 Speaker 1: Is that her Aldo or is that Oprah?

1:17:18 Speaker 2: Oprah early days? Man? Me and Al Madrigal. I'll never

1:17:21 Speaker 2: forget this. It was like when I first met Al,

1:17:24 Speaker 2: probably like late nineties. I think we're in San Francisco

1:17:29 Speaker 2: doing bong hits, watching TV and Oprah was on, and

1:17:33 Speaker 2: it was old Oprah, Bong hig Hair, Oprah Big Hair.

1:17:37 Speaker 2: Oprah might not have been the nineties, might have been

1:17:39 Speaker 2: early two.

1:17:39 Speaker 4: Thousands of aliens from Men in Black they were watching

1:17:41 Speaker 4: at the beginning. Member, you know, I don't know.

1:17:45 Speaker 1: I mean, I again, there's elements of this subject that

1:17:48 Speaker 1: are disturbing, and you know, I don't think people need

1:17:51 Speaker 1: to know all that shit.

1:17:52 Speaker 2: So do you subscribe to the idea that human beings

1:17:55 Speaker 2: are the product of genetic engineering?

1:17:57 Speaker 1: I do you do?

1:17:58 Speaker 2: So you think that they took some lower hominids and

1:18:01 Speaker 2: that they did something to him to create human beings.

1:18:04 Speaker 2: That is a very popular theory among UFO fanatics, I

1:18:07 Speaker 2: should say fans.

1:18:08 Speaker 1: I I don't want to speak again for my company,

1:18:12 Speaker 1: but one of the people on our board scientific they

1:18:16 Speaker 1: call it a SAP Scientific Advisory Board, is a lead

1:18:19 Speaker 1: geneticist from Stanford who I think he was up for

1:18:22 Speaker 1: the Nobel this year. What's his name, Doctor Gary Nolan?

1:18:25 Speaker 1: And he would be the genet he would be the

1:18:26 Speaker 1: guy to ask about that.

1:18:28 Speaker 2: Get him in here, but he would.

1:18:30 Speaker 1: But he's he's only going to tell you what's what,

1:18:32 Speaker 1: what he can prove with science. He's not going to speculate,

1:18:35 Speaker 1: you know.

1:18:35 Speaker 2: So, what what makes people think that? Like, what's the

1:18:38 Speaker 2: science that makes people think that.

1:18:40 Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of junk DNA, there's certain parts

1:18:42 Speaker 1: of our DNA that seems to have been turned off.

1:18:44 Speaker 1: There's there's a bunch of things in there that we

1:18:49 Speaker 1: don't understand, and we don't have the leaps of humanity

1:18:53 Speaker 1: over the past five thousand years to really show like,

1:18:57 Speaker 1: where did what happened in the past five thousand years

1:19:00 Speaker 1: that wasn't happening for the hundreds of millions of years

1:19:02 Speaker 1: before that. They just found a footprint that was like

1:19:06 Speaker 1: a hundred million years old or something like that, that

1:19:08 Speaker 1: was just a human footprint. What they did, Yeah, I

1:19:11 Speaker 1: just read that. I don't know, I can't remember, but

1:19:13 Speaker 1: it's it's like a fossil and now they're like, fuck,

1:19:15 Speaker 1: this totally throws everything upside down.

1:19:17 Speaker 2: I've been talking to Sarah Palin. That was something that

1:19:19 Speaker 2: Salea Palin said, Remember that, Like there was a librarian

1:19:21 Speaker 2: that said that she she didn't believe that she was

1:19:24 Speaker 2: a Young Earth creationist. She thought that, uh, there was

1:19:28 Speaker 2: a picture online that showed a human footprint inside a

1:19:31 Speaker 2: dinosaur footprint that approved that people walked with dinosaurs.

1:19:34 Speaker 1: I wouldn't doubt it.

1:19:35 Speaker 2: I think out that people walked with dinosaurs.

1:19:37 Speaker 1: Oh not at all. I think there's been cycles of civilizations,

1:19:39 Speaker 1: and I think the people on the inside know that.

1:19:42 Speaker 1: And that's why at that defense contractor multi multi, multi,

1:19:46 Speaker 1: multi billion dollar defense the ones that chose the government

1:19:49 Speaker 1: of Iraq after we took over Iraq and the ones

1:19:51 Speaker 1: that looked over after all of our nukes.

1:19:53 Speaker 2: Hey, look at there, footprint inside a dinosaur footprint. She's right,

1:19:57 Speaker 2: but they have.

1:19:58 Speaker 1: But they have at that place. Remember I told you

1:20:01 Speaker 1: they have the past and the future with big pyramids

1:20:03 Speaker 1: in their hands, tetrahedrons. You know that they're trying. It's

1:20:06 Speaker 1: like it's a spooky when you look at that.

1:20:09 Speaker 2: Do you believe that the asteroid hit the Yucatan caused

1:20:12 Speaker 2: a mass extinction that killed off most of the life

1:20:14 Speaker 2: on the planet.

1:20:15 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't believe in it. I don't know. Fuck,

1:20:17 Speaker 1: I've never studied that shit and I wasn't there.

1:20:19 Speaker 2: But I mean there's like physical evidence for that.

1:20:21 Speaker 1: It's more like, well, yeah, but I haven't read anything

1:20:23 Speaker 1: about it. But sure, I mean I can believe in things.

1:20:26 Speaker 1: I can't prove a lot of things.

1:20:27 Speaker 2: You know, right, But that's like the whole reason why

1:20:29 Speaker 2: we're supposedly here, that it killed off the dinosaurs and

1:20:32 Speaker 2: allowed whatever they think there was some sort of a

1:20:35 Speaker 2: mole mole type creature that evolved over sixty five million

1:20:38 Speaker 2: years became bullshit.

1:20:40 Speaker 1: I think it's all bullshit.

1:20:41 Speaker 2: I think do you think evolutions bullshit.

1:20:43 Speaker 1: No, I think that at some point in history they

1:20:46 Speaker 1: came someone came here and tampered with existing creatures and

1:20:50 Speaker 1: made us and upgraded us at very specific orn.

1:20:52 Speaker 2: But who tampered with them? And what came first? And

1:20:55 Speaker 2: chicken in the egg? You know question? Yeah, I know,

1:20:57 Speaker 2: a single celled organism. We all kind of agree like

1:21:00 Speaker 2: that was like the beginning, right most scientists. Not we

1:21:04 Speaker 2: I'm too stupid for this. But obviously, somehow or another

1:21:07 Speaker 2: that became a bird, right, Why couldn't it become a monkey?

1:21:11 Speaker 2: Why couldn't that monkey become a person?

1:21:12 Speaker 1: I think it? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, look,

1:21:14 Speaker 1: evolution changes. I mean we know that people that like

1:21:18 Speaker 1: beat their kids, their kids DNA changes based on getting beat.

1:21:22 Speaker 1: You know, so when you were fighting, you were changing

1:21:25 Speaker 1: people's DNA and you were a geneticist. You know, you

1:21:28 Speaker 1: went after it for science. You know, that's why we

1:21:31 Speaker 1: were doing the fighting, right for sure.

1:21:33 Speaker 2: It's so if you think about it that way, if

1:21:37 Speaker 2: you think about that, that all life, somehow or another

1:21:40 Speaker 2: continues to evolve and advanced, and through natural selection, genetic

1:21:44 Speaker 2: mutation and random mutations, that things move from one stage

1:21:49 Speaker 2: of existence to what they are today, right that when

1:21:53 Speaker 2: you look at, you know, a condor or a hippopotamus,

1:21:56 Speaker 2: sure that it used to be something different and now

1:21:58 Speaker 2: it's that Sure. Why wouldn't that be the case of

1:22:00 Speaker 2: people too.

1:22:01 Speaker 1: I think that is the case with people. I just

1:22:03 Speaker 1: think that the quantum leaps in our evolution, our symptoms

1:22:07 Speaker 1: are effects of being genetically upgraded.

1:22:12 Speaker 2: We've heard it explained to me, though, is that those

1:22:14 Speaker 2: The only leap that's really confusing is the doubling of

1:22:17 Speaker 2: the human brain. That's the big leap, and it's over

1:22:20 Speaker 2: the period of two million years apparently. Obviously I'm too

1:22:23 Speaker 2: stupid to really understand this, but from what I've read

1:22:25 Speaker 2: when I've heard people talk about that's apparently one of

1:22:27 Speaker 2: the biggest miss mysteries, uh, when it comes to the

1:22:31 Speaker 2: human fossil record. But there's a pretty clear line apparently

1:22:35 Speaker 2: from Australiapithecus to you know, to.

1:22:38 Speaker 1: The homes on me.

1:22:39 Speaker 2: So straliopithecus is not a big word, you sound like it.

1:22:42 Speaker 2: What the fuck is that stuff again?

1:22:44 Speaker 1: Penis uranus?

1:22:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, that's called? That stuff? So what is your

1:22:52 Speaker 2: company aiming to do and when are you trying to

1:22:55 Speaker 2: do it?

1:22:55 Speaker 1: So the next steps so to the Stars Academy of

1:22:58 Speaker 1: Arts and Science.

1:22:59 Speaker 2: Why is it an academy because teaching people.

1:23:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's teaching, there's science, there's arts major you know,

1:23:05 Speaker 1: there's film franchises. So what this doesn't say musicals? No musicals, right,

1:23:08 Speaker 1: it's only musicals.

1:23:11 Speaker 2: Sorry, musicals. Everything's cool, but really stupid art form.

1:23:16 Speaker 1: Well yet it's it's a musical, but it's very salacious,

1:23:20 Speaker 1: very very sexual musicals. But okay, So what we did

1:23:23 Speaker 1: essentially is you have a senior engineer, chief engineer from

1:23:29 Speaker 1: the classified aerospace world building shit, and then you have

1:23:32 Speaker 1: a guy like me that's putting out some stories and

1:23:35 Speaker 1: making some movies about some things. And then you have

1:23:38 Speaker 1: my physicists.

1:23:39 Speaker 2: Can I stop you there, I'm sorry interrupt, But why stories?

1:23:42 Speaker 2: And why fiction?

1:23:43 Speaker 1: Like, why not just it's gonna be both, There's gonna

1:23:45 Speaker 1: be both.

1:23:45 Speaker 2: But why fiction?

1:23:46 Speaker 1: Why not just concentrate entirely on revealing the truth because

1:23:50 Speaker 1: it has to be managed in a certain way for

1:23:53 Speaker 1: people to understand. And I think that someone's sitting down

1:23:55 Speaker 1: and watching a debate play out and having an idea

1:23:59 Speaker 1: of what what went on over the past seventy years,

1:24:02 Speaker 1: they'll come out of that with an emotional response and

1:24:05 Speaker 1: more of an understanding, and then want to go watch

1:24:07 Speaker 1: the documentary and then want to buy some of the

1:24:09 Speaker 1: nonfiction works that we've done. I've already put out one

1:24:12 Speaker 1: of our nonfiction books with Secret Machines.

1:24:14 Speaker 2: Now that movie, what is it a rival? Is that

1:24:18 Speaker 2: the movie where there's like sort of weird time shit

1:24:21 Speaker 2: in that movie? Does that movie have any basis in reality?

1:24:26 Speaker 2: No secret people behind the scenes.

1:24:28 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. But there's nothing in there

1:24:30 Speaker 1: that's familiar to me other than the fact that the

1:24:33 Speaker 1: dream sequences and the time stuff and her having flashes

1:24:37 Speaker 1: of that shit's absolutely on par and the idea of

1:24:41 Speaker 1: having an international group work together to figure something out

1:24:45 Speaker 1: that's absolutely on that.

1:24:47 Speaker 2: That that's happening right now, and everybody's keeping their mouths shut.

1:24:49 Speaker 2: Oh fuck, yeah, why are they doing that? Why aren't

1:24:52 Speaker 2: people spilling the beans?

1:24:53 Speaker 1: Well, it's not every I mean, look at lou Alizonda,

1:24:56 Speaker 1: the guy that works for me. They just came from

1:24:57 Speaker 1: the Pentagon, literally quit the Pentagon two weeks ago. I

1:25:00 Speaker 1: was I can't can tell you where I'm at, but

1:25:03 Speaker 1: I know I'm sorry, but but he's with me, and

1:25:07 Speaker 1: he was on stage with me on the live event

1:25:10 Speaker 1: we did on the eleven, saying I left the Pentagon

1:25:13 Speaker 1: days ago, I ran this particular UFO program and this

1:25:17 Speaker 1: is what we know and they are real and we're

1:25:19 Speaker 1: going to continue that program here at to the Stars.

1:25:22 Speaker 2: Now, what's your So your goal is to release this

1:25:25 Speaker 2: information through documentaries, through films and to educate people of

1:25:29 Speaker 2: the existence of this And is it to make a ship?

1:25:32 Speaker 1: Well no, so we're bringing so this is once again,

1:25:35 Speaker 1: look there by putting together. You can't attack this subject

1:25:39 Speaker 1: by just like if you make a movie that's a

1:25:41 Speaker 1: crazy movie, if you make a science paper on it

1:25:44 Speaker 1: and then no one's going to read it, and the

1:25:46 Speaker 1: technology will never see the light of day because it's

1:25:49 Speaker 1: been modified as weaponry or whatever it is. That the

1:25:53 Speaker 1: only way to get people to understand what the fuck

1:25:56 Speaker 1: is going on is by first present them the store

1:26:00 Speaker 1: so they have an understanding that it is real and

1:26:02 Speaker 1: it is happening, and lay it in a way that's

1:26:05 Speaker 1: grounded and practical but still moves you, and then follow

1:26:10 Speaker 1: up with the science and then show them that that

1:26:12 Speaker 1: thing you're watching in the movie can be engineered and created.

1:26:17 Speaker 1: So we are doing it all together. But there's a

1:26:19 Speaker 1: thing called a community of interest. So to the Stars

1:26:22 Speaker 1: is also building a portal with the Department of Defense

1:26:26 Speaker 1: to share information, to educate people, to put some declassified

1:26:31 Speaker 1: now declassified videos of UFOs, some science, some documents, and

1:26:35 Speaker 1: have open forms and have current military people talk to

1:26:39 Speaker 1: young adults.

1:26:40 Speaker 2: So you're going to expose people to this narrative and

1:26:44 Speaker 2: explain to them through stories what this could be. That

1:26:48 Speaker 2: sets the stage. Then you start to introduce the actual

1:26:51 Speaker 2: real elements that actually exist yep. And then eventually what's

1:26:56 Speaker 2: the endgame.

1:26:57 Speaker 1: Well, the endgame is to the technology itself. Is like,

1:27:01 Speaker 1: so when you make when you create this energy source

1:27:05 Speaker 1: that powers the spacecraft, it's called an over unity machine,

1:27:08 Speaker 1: so it puts out more power than what's put into it.

1:27:11 Speaker 1: You can desalinate ocean water with it, you can get

1:27:14 Speaker 1: rid of atomic power, so there's no radio, no more

1:27:17 Speaker 1: Fukushimas you know, it could do a lot of different things,

1:27:20 Speaker 1: but it also will rapidly, rapidly transform our entire transportation

1:27:25 Speaker 1: and communication network. So the end result with that is

1:27:30 Speaker 1: that'll get spun out into a company that's probably partners

1:27:35 Speaker 1: with major aerospace organizations, which with whom I'm already talking

1:27:40 Speaker 1: and we partner on that.

1:27:41 Speaker 2: Yes, you can't tell me who they are.

1:27:43 Speaker 1: No, fuck no, I can't tell you, and we bring

1:27:45 Speaker 1: that out to the world. But the only way that

1:27:47 Speaker 1: can be brought out to the world is if the

1:27:49 Speaker 1: public owns it and we build it from scratch.

1:27:52 Speaker 2: Why the public? Why does the public have to own it?

1:27:54 Speaker 1: Because well, I guess it could be in a way

1:27:55 Speaker 1: a private person, but the technology it probably has an

1:27:59 Speaker 1: l ament of what they call imminent domain. So we're

1:28:01 Speaker 1: going to get to a certain point where certain agencies

1:28:04 Speaker 1: will probably knock on our door and go, what the

1:28:06 Speaker 1: fuck are you doing? And we're going to say, the

1:28:09 Speaker 1: public owns this, you can't take it from them. They're

1:28:11 Speaker 1: going to say, fuck yeah, we can take it, and

1:28:12 Speaker 1: we're gonna say we're gonna work something out. Because it's

1:28:14 Speaker 1: like building a nuclear bomb in your basement kind of thing.

1:28:16 Speaker 2: So when you say the public owns it, like, how

1:28:19 Speaker 2: will that be possible? How will the public own it?

1:28:22 Speaker 1: You can go to our We've we reserved a small

1:28:25 Speaker 1: amount of shares of the company that people can buy

1:28:28 Speaker 1: stock in the company right now.

1:28:29 Speaker 2: So a year ago, the subs that's not the public,

1:28:32 Speaker 2: that's private it's not private ownership, right, if people buy

1:28:35 Speaker 2: the company can go public.

1:28:36 Speaker 1: But no, no, no, it is public. So a year

1:28:39 Speaker 1: and a half ago, maybe twenty four months ago, the

1:28:41 Speaker 1: SEC wanted to democratize going public with companies, just like

1:28:47 Speaker 1: an IPO, but not have to spend millions of dollars

1:28:49 Speaker 1: and do it. So they launched what's called a regulation,

1:28:51 Speaker 1: a direct public offering, and we had a file with

1:28:55 Speaker 1: the SEC. So we had to spend hundreds of thousands

1:28:57 Speaker 1: of dollars to do this, and we spent the last

1:28:59 Speaker 1: six months doing it, and our live event launched that.

1:29:02 Speaker 2: So you can go to to and you did this

1:29:04 Speaker 2: just so that you can tell the whoever the fuck

1:29:07 Speaker 2: it is that will come after you that, hey, the

1:29:10 Speaker 2: public owns this. You can't take this.

1:29:11 Speaker 1: That's one element of everything that we're doing. Yeah.

1:29:15 Speaker 2: That so you're anticipate, you're spending hundreds of thousands of

1:29:18 Speaker 2: dollars to anticipate someone coming in and closing the doors

1:29:21 Speaker 2: and that yet you're talking about it in advance. We're like,

1:29:25 Speaker 2: you're essentially telling strategizing that you know, but you're letting

1:29:28 Speaker 2: them know that you know that they're going to come

1:29:30 Speaker 2: and it's going.

1:29:30 Speaker 1: To be much harder to shut it down when the

1:29:32 Speaker 1: whole world has paid for it, invested in it, owns it.

1:29:35 Speaker 2: And uh so you're trying to get people to buy things.

1:29:38 Speaker 1: I'm trying.

1:29:38 Speaker 2: What do you mean you're trying to get people to

1:29:40 Speaker 2: buy stock?

1:29:41 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, right now we're public. You can buy shares

1:29:43 Speaker 1: of the company. You can only we only put up

1:29:46 Speaker 1: a very limited amount there. We only put it. I

1:29:48 Speaker 1: think we only put up five five million shares.

1:29:50 Speaker 2: So that seems like a lot of shares. How many

1:29:52 Speaker 2: shares are they're all others.

1:29:53 Speaker 1: Oh, there's like one hundred million probably or something like

1:29:55 Speaker 1: the hundred how's that?

1:29:56 Speaker 2: How's shares work?

1:29:57 Speaker 1: Shares like you just work?

1:29:59 Speaker 2: Like say, if we came up with Young Jamie Incorporated. Yeah,

1:30:02 Speaker 2: and we wanted to start selling shares.

1:30:04 Speaker 1: When you file as a corporation, you can issue shares

1:30:07 Speaker 1: and you can sell those shares to people, and those

1:30:09 Speaker 1: shares have a price based on, you know, how you

1:30:12 Speaker 1: want to value your company.

1:30:13 Speaker 3: You know.

1:30:14 Speaker 2: Okay, so you could have like one hundred million shares

1:30:16 Speaker 2: of Young Jamie Incorporated. Yep, you sure can, okay, And

1:30:19 Speaker 2: so then the government can't shut you down? Bro?

1:30:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well you guys maybe because you say a lot

1:30:24 Speaker 1: of bad words.

1:30:25 Speaker 2: No, no, no, Jamie doesn't. But I'm Morman.

1:30:28 Speaker 1: We do a lot at the company, right, So we're

1:30:29 Speaker 1: building essentially a science fiction version of Disney. Okay, so

1:30:33 Speaker 1: we have four film franchises, not all of them about UFOs.

1:30:37 Speaker 1: One is kind of this blade Runner night all about

1:30:40 Speaker 1: nightmares kind of thing. One is like an old ambulance Spielberg.

1:30:43 Speaker 2: Who's making these things? Oh?

1:30:45 Speaker 4: We are?

1:30:45 Speaker 2: I mean who's writing them?

1:30:47 Speaker 1: I wrote the first one. I'm directing that.

1:30:49 Speaker 2: Uh good directing too. I wrote this script and you

1:30:52 Speaker 2: multi talented motherfucker.

1:30:54 Speaker 1: Well look, I'm That's where I'm going with most of

1:30:56 Speaker 1: this stuff. But the company I had to get up

1:30:58 Speaker 1: and get going and set it up and we bring

1:30:59 Speaker 1: it CEO.

1:31:00 Speaker 2: And that's a bizarre formula, right, an entertainment company that's

1:31:04 Speaker 2: also gonna.

1:31:05 Speaker 1: Do aerospace and science and the well, the heart of

1:31:08 Speaker 1: it is when we do what's called confirmation, not disclosure, confirmation.

1:31:13 Speaker 1: The heart of it is is how do we tell

1:31:15 Speaker 1: stories that galvanize the human race and let them know

1:31:18 Speaker 1: a little bit more about what's going on, and how

1:31:20 Speaker 1: do we present them science so they understand that consciousness

1:31:23 Speaker 1: and a lot of other things are real, and how

1:31:26 Speaker 1: do we build a technology associated with those stories and

1:31:30 Speaker 1: with those science that can change the world. And that's

1:31:32 Speaker 1: why it's an academy.

1:31:33 Speaker 2: Do they have any pickled bodies anywhere?

1:31:36 Speaker 1: I believe they do.

1:31:38 Speaker 2: You believe they nobody's ever told you that. I believe.

1:31:41 Speaker 2: I believe they do. You believe they do. You can't

1:31:44 Speaker 2: say anymore.

1:31:44 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say any more in that you

1:31:46 Speaker 1: said so much.

1:31:47 Speaker 2: I can't say.

1:31:49 Speaker 1: Well, I could tell you other ship offline probably.

1:31:52 Speaker 2: Okay, offline. I can't wait to end this podcast. Kick

1:31:55 Speaker 2: me out, tell anybody play some weird shit. So now,

1:31:59 Speaker 2: what what's the timeline from moving forward with all this stuff?

1:32:02 Speaker 1: Okay, So in the next few weeks, we're going to

1:32:05 Speaker 1: be releasing the first declassified videos of these advanced aerial

1:32:09 Speaker 1: threat UFOs, and they are current videos that were just

1:32:12 Speaker 1: caught and with audio and everything of the people tracking them.

1:32:16 Speaker 1: And we're going to launch the beta version of the

1:32:17 Speaker 1: Community of Interest, which is the partnered website that's going

1:32:20 Speaker 1: to be hosting all this declassified information where we're gonna

1:32:22 Speaker 1: be having the hardcore conversations with people that want to

1:32:28 Speaker 1: understand this stuff. We're going to be also doing an

1:32:31 Speaker 1: experiment with that piece of metal to show the world

1:32:34 Speaker 1: that the technology is not only real, but it's demonstratable.

1:32:39 Speaker 1: And the videos are very much a proof of concept.

1:32:42 Speaker 1: You know, it's showing you look at works, you know,

1:32:43 Speaker 1: so we're gonna build it.

1:32:45 Speaker 2: And do you think it's going to be weird for

1:32:47 Speaker 2: people to take you seriously because you're a rock star,

1:32:49 Speaker 2: Like maybe if you're like some sort of a physicist

1:32:51 Speaker 2: avery scientist, they would listen to you more.

1:32:54 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I remember when Elon came out years

1:32:56 Speaker 1: ago and he started SpaceX and then he started test that.

1:33:00 Speaker 1: I'm like, here's this dude saying all this ambitious ship.

1:33:03 Speaker 1: I didn't buy any of it.

1:33:03 Speaker 2: I think guy's one hundred times smarter than the both

1:33:05 Speaker 2: of us combined.

1:33:06 Speaker 1: He's fucking gnarly, I know, but I'm just saying he

1:33:10 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I think he is. I mean, shit, he's badass.

1:33:13 Speaker 1: But look at the people. What's interesting to me is

1:33:16 Speaker 1: you haven't seen who are with? Have you looked at

1:33:19 Speaker 1: the bios on this ship?

1:33:20 Speaker 3: No?

1:33:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to read the bios of the people.

1:33:22 Speaker 2: I wanted I didn't want to be tainted.

1:33:24 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you well, one of one

1:33:25 Speaker 1: of the the on my on my sat, the Scientific

1:33:29 Speaker 1: Board Advisory Board is you know, one of the guys

1:33:32 Speaker 1: at CIA that headed up the entire bio warfare program

1:33:34 Speaker 1: and the director to Operations of the Clandestine Division.

1:33:36 Speaker 2: So all these guys have found you how various ways.

1:33:40 Speaker 2: So they've come to you because you like the beacon.

1:33:44 Speaker 2: I I did something this is the way to go.

1:33:46 Speaker 1: I did something that no one thought was possible. What

1:33:49 Speaker 1: that was tying together a mechanism that can perpetually fund

1:33:54 Speaker 1: itself and can communicate and can innovate all with people

1:34:02 Speaker 1: that sit at a seat. I created a roundtable with engineers, scientists, intel,

1:34:06 Speaker 1: high ranking intelligence officials and some others I can't tell

1:34:11 Speaker 1: you about obviously. And this in the defense world it's

1:34:15 Speaker 1: called stove piping. So when they when they compartmentalize a secret,

1:34:20 Speaker 1: they put them into these vertical categories that can't talk

1:34:23 Speaker 1: to each other. I created a horizontal structure where all

1:34:26 Speaker 1: these people in these amazing accomplished positions and government were

1:34:31 Speaker 1: able to come together at the same table and they

1:34:34 Speaker 1: can discuss what we want to teach the world and

1:34:38 Speaker 1: how we want to do that. But the way to

1:34:41 Speaker 1: do that is including the public and making a public

1:34:44 Speaker 1: benefit corporation. And what that means is we're able to

1:34:47 Speaker 1: spend money and it's in our charter on things that

1:34:50 Speaker 1: can benefit the world and not just provide a return

1:34:53 Speaker 1: to the investors. But what we're doing happens to be

1:34:55 Speaker 1: extremely lucrative my engine lucrative for investors, for investors and

1:35:01 Speaker 1: the company.

1:35:01 Speaker 2: So how is it, like, say, if young Jamie wants

1:35:03 Speaker 2: to be a part of it, what does he have

1:35:05 Speaker 2: to do?

1:35:05 Speaker 1: You just go to the Stars Academy dot com and

1:35:07 Speaker 1: you buy shares whatever you want to buy.

1:35:09 Speaker 2: But how will it be lucrative for him?

1:35:11 Speaker 1: Because the first of all, the technology it sells like

1:35:14 Speaker 1: a trillion dollar thing. If we can figure that out

1:35:17 Speaker 1: over the next eight years, and they think we can,

1:35:19 Speaker 1: so they who's there the engineers that are building this thing.

1:35:22 Speaker 1: The guy so Steve Justice, that was head of advanced

1:35:24 Speaker 1: Programs at the skunk Works, we talked about that they

1:35:27 Speaker 1: build all of our They are the tip of the

1:35:29 Speaker 1: spear for the most advanced spacecraft and aircraft that the

1:35:33 Speaker 1: United States National Security opperatus has period period, hands down,

1:35:38 Speaker 1: and he was the big boy there and their model.

1:35:42 Speaker 1: We think we have a you know, this is a

1:35:46 Speaker 1: this is a guest, but I think there's a sixty

1:35:48 Speaker 1: percent chance within thirty six months or so we'll be

1:35:51 Speaker 1: able to demonstrate something pretty kick ass. And as long

1:35:55 Speaker 1: as there's no major obstacle there, we think within eight

1:35:57 Speaker 1: years we'll be able to have something. But it's expensive

1:36:00 Speaker 1: and we've got to work with the government, and we're

1:36:01 Speaker 1: gonna have to work with major aerospace For example, this

1:36:04 Speaker 1: one meeting I have coming up with with a big

1:36:07 Speaker 1: name aerospace company is offering their material sciences division.

1:36:11 Speaker 2: We need that.

1:36:11 Speaker 1: We need to be able to create certain metals that

1:36:14 Speaker 1: can resonate in certain certain frequencies. Shit like that. The

1:36:17 Speaker 1: other way that the company makes money is when we

1:36:20 Speaker 1: build this the satellite launching system. That's like exactly what

1:36:24 Speaker 1: Elon's doing now, putting satellites in orbit. But we don't

1:36:27 Speaker 1: have to build rockets. We can launch them with lasers.

1:36:30 Speaker 2: That's a big, big deal.

1:36:31 Speaker 1: You point lasers at the bottom of a cube SAT,

1:36:33 Speaker 1: which is like the size of a shoe box, and

1:36:35 Speaker 1: you could put it into lower th orbit and you

1:36:37 Speaker 1: can put it up even higher without using any fossil

1:36:39 Speaker 1: fuels with using light. That's a big deal. That's a

1:36:42 Speaker 1: multi billion dollar gimmick, right there.

1:36:44 Speaker 2: Has this been proven? Yeah, I told you the video.

1:36:50 Speaker 1: It's in our launch video. If you watch the video

1:36:52 Speaker 1: at the top of the Tooth the Stars Academy dot

1:36:54 Speaker 1: com page, you'll see shots of it where little thing's

1:36:56 Speaker 1: glowing and it's getting beamed up into the sky. That's

1:36:58 Speaker 1: the Air Force. Yeah, guys were on that project.

1:37:01 Speaker 2: Little things glowing like yeah, like a mass though, like

1:37:04 Speaker 2: a satellite.

1:37:05 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they're called cubes Do you know what a

1:37:07 Speaker 1: CubeSat is. No, A CubeSat is a modular box that

1:37:11 Speaker 1: you put together as modules based on what you need. Okay,

1:37:14 Speaker 1: I need a thrust, I need a sensor, and I

1:37:17 Speaker 1: need a fucking RF signal thing to send the data

1:37:20 Speaker 1: back home. So now you got three little boxes attached.

1:37:22 Speaker 1: That's a cubeset. They call them cubes So it's essentially

1:37:27 Speaker 1: it's probably eighty percent of the satellite business. But now

1:37:32 Speaker 1: they got to put all these CubeSats together on Musk's

1:37:35 Speaker 1: rocket that's also launching giant satellites for DoD or whatever.

1:37:40 Speaker 1: But it's super expensive because you have a rocket and

1:37:42 Speaker 1: you have all the fossil fuels and all this stuff.

1:37:44 Speaker 1: If you launch these cube SATs with lasers because they're

1:37:47 Speaker 1: not that heavy, and you can, like I said, it

1:37:49 Speaker 1: would take a cost of launching a cube set from

1:37:51 Speaker 1: fifty grand a pound down to five grand. That's a

1:37:55 Speaker 1: huge So.

1:37:55 Speaker 2: There's a video of this actually happening. That's on your

1:37:58 Speaker 2: what is the to the Star Academy dot com is what.

1:38:01 Speaker 1: It is, and you can watch the you can watch

1:38:02 Speaker 1: the video, and then you go to the entertainment division,

1:38:06 Speaker 1: which is my primary spot, you know, making movies and

1:38:10 Speaker 1: selling millions of books and licensing the stuff out is

1:38:13 Speaker 1: the is the reason why Disney's three hundred billion and

1:38:15 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers is five billion. Warner Brothers just makes movies.

1:38:19 Speaker 1: Disney's makes they make franchises, and they're vertically integrated. We

1:38:22 Speaker 1: put out the book, we put out the T shirts,

1:38:24 Speaker 1: we make the movie. So that's really where we're going.

1:38:27 Speaker 1: And we have we have three television series that are

1:38:32 Speaker 1: probably one of which will be announced probably in the

1:38:35 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. The other two we're a little

1:38:37 Speaker 1: further out on that. The first film, our first film

1:38:40 Speaker 1: is first Quarter next year. I wrote that one and

1:38:43 Speaker 1: I'll be directing that one. It's called Strange Times, which

1:38:45 Speaker 1: is like a hard R version of the Goonies, but funny,

1:38:48 Speaker 1: but scary and fucked up, but with seventeen and eighteen

1:38:51 Speaker 1: year old kids. And then and then Secret Machines, the

1:38:55 Speaker 1: motion picture that's These are all franchises. So Strange Times

1:38:58 Speaker 1: has an animated series that's coming out. We have a

1:39:02 Speaker 1: wonderful writer from saraynt Live that's show running the thing.

1:39:05 Speaker 1: We have an unscripted show coming out on the entire company,

1:39:09 Speaker 1: just following us in a very national geographic way. As

1:39:12 Speaker 1: we do all these things, and as we build lasers,

1:39:15 Speaker 1: as we're on the movie sets, as we're in the lab,

1:39:18 Speaker 1: you know, pinging that those pieces of metal I told

1:39:22 Speaker 1: you about. So there's a lot of things like that going.

1:39:25 Speaker 1: So when you ask about how do we monetize all

1:39:28 Speaker 1: this shit, we have a full functioning entertainment division. It's

1:39:30 Speaker 1: been up for a few years. That's what I've been doing,

1:39:32 Speaker 1: and that's how I made the book, and we've put

1:39:34 Speaker 1: out seven novels already.

1:39:36 Speaker 2: But your end goal is ultimately to expose all this information.

1:39:41 Speaker 2: My end goal is not just that.

1:39:44 Speaker 1: My end goal is to build a company that changes

1:39:48 Speaker 1: the world. And by doing a traditional IPO in the

1:39:51 Speaker 1: next five to seven years. And to do that, I

1:39:54 Speaker 1: grabbed very very high ranking people from various areas in

1:39:58 Speaker 1: the government to achieve all this stuff. And they don't

1:40:01 Speaker 1: need to come in on the movies. I have that

1:40:02 Speaker 1: on lock. That's my thing. But it can it can

1:40:05 Speaker 1: function as a way to help people understand what the

1:40:10 Speaker 1: fuck is going on. So some of the movies, some

1:40:12 Speaker 1: of the TV series, some of the non fiction works

1:40:14 Speaker 1: that we do will all be about that subject, but

1:40:17 Speaker 1: the rest of it won't be.

1:40:19 Speaker 2: All Right, dude, well that's a very ambitious project, and

1:40:22 Speaker 2: let us know when you're ready to go to the

1:40:23 Speaker 2: Moon or Mars or wherever the fuck you're gonna go. Yeah,

1:40:27 Speaker 2: you can go to Uranus all those places. And uh,

1:40:30 Speaker 2: I hope it's all real. I'm excited. Thanks for having me.

1:40:33 Speaker 2: Oh thanks for coming on, brother, Yeah, appreciate so much.

1:40:35 Speaker 2: Thank you. Bye, everybody, all right, are we off?