"PRESIDENT EISENHOWER NEVER SIGNED A TREATY WITH ALIENS" (Ft. Laura Eisenhower)

0:16 Speaker 1: Step h m hm hm hm.

1:31 Speaker 2: A right, and we're back with the great granddaughter of

1:36 Speaker 2: former President Eisenhower, who I had in the intro for

1:39 Speaker 2: so long. It's so funny because uh, his uh, you know,

1:44 Speaker 2: one of his what is it the exit speech?

1:46 Speaker 3: Was it his exit speech.

1:49 Speaker 4: Gave the morning. Yeah.

1:51 Speaker 2: I had that in the intro for so long because

1:53 Speaker 2: I think that is such a pivotal moment that there's

1:57 Speaker 2: there's there's a couple of them, and I believe that's

1:59 Speaker 2: that's one of them. Daniel Inneway's speech to the United

2:03 Speaker 2: Nations where he talks about the shadow government, and you know,

2:06 Speaker 2: they have their own fundraising mechanism, their own army, their navy,

2:10 Speaker 2: and their own agenda.

2:11 Speaker 3: They operate of the law.

2:13 Speaker 2: There were these few times where where members of Congress

2:16 Speaker 2: and the president, people in government actually stepped up to Warna's.

2:21 Speaker 2: Nowadays it's a little bit different, where there's a lot

2:24 Speaker 2: more involvement. So I guess there's obviously some building questions

2:29 Speaker 2: with who you are. I said this backstage, you're the

2:32 Speaker 2: great granddaughter a former President Eisenhower. Arguably, you know, in

2:39 Speaker 2: my opinion, this is my opinion, one of the last

2:43 Speaker 2: people who served the way I think that was intended.

2:48 Speaker 3: It was.

2:49 Speaker 2: I feel like the presidency was always something that you did.

2:52 Speaker 2: You had a career, you time away, you filled that seat,

2:57 Speaker 2: and then you left and you didn't go back to politics.

3:00 Speaker 3: You weren't a career bureaucrat.

3:03 Speaker 2: So unfortunately, I do believe that your your great grandfather,

3:07 Speaker 2: was one of the last that served the way it

3:09 Speaker 2: was it was meant to be. But can you tell

3:11 Speaker 2: us a little bit about yourself? For those who don't

3:14 Speaker 2: or I have not heard you speak before, you're just

3:18 Speaker 2: a tremendous voice in the subject.

3:19 Speaker 4: Oh well, thank you so much. And yeah, the more

3:22 Speaker 4: I learned about him, the more blown away I am.

3:24 Speaker 4: But I've always known it in my heart, you know,

3:25 Speaker 4: since I was a child, just who this man is,

3:28 Speaker 4: you know, just feeling the immensity of his love, what

3:31 Speaker 4: in an advanced soul, you know, he truly is. His

3:38 Speaker 4: strategy intelligence was unbelievable. And it was not just World

3:46 Speaker 4: Wars as a general, it was as a president. It

3:48 Speaker 4: was as somebody that was facing the bigger picture, galactic picture,

3:53 Speaker 4: bigger picture, galactic picture, bigger picture of what's happening on

3:56 Speaker 4: a galactic level. So a little bit about me so

4:00 Speaker 4: I grew up really close to feeling into who this

4:03 Speaker 4: man was, starting at a very young age in order

4:06 Speaker 4: to understand my mission, because I knew it had to

4:08 Speaker 4: do with him, not just him, but him being a

4:12 Speaker 4: voice for the people. The larger picture of what we're

4:15 Speaker 4: dealing with as a humanity had to do with kind

4:19 Speaker 4: of picking up where he left off to help people

4:22 Speaker 4: to understand what happened to the timeline after his presidency,

4:26 Speaker 4: what really took place during the Second World War and

4:32 Speaker 4: all the events that were very pivotal in this deep

4:37 Speaker 4: state takeover of the US, you know, nineteen forty seven

4:40 Speaker 4: to nineteen fifty two before he stepped into the presidency.

4:44 Speaker 4: The things that I've learned are not are not easily found.

4:49 Speaker 4: You won't hear this in the disclosure communities, but my

4:54 Speaker 4: own soul kind of sovereign journey has been you know,

4:58 Speaker 4: very sensitive to under standing argalactic history, the sophionic energy,

5:04 Speaker 4: the Chrysophia divine blueprint, and what events took place starting

5:10 Speaker 4: from Lyra to the Orion Wars, Ta Tara and Tiamat exploding,

5:14 Speaker 4: and like everything about how this planet became the kind

5:17 Speaker 4: of planet that it is, you know, the root races,

5:20 Speaker 4: the planetary grid network, how this is a rehabilitation planet,

5:24 Speaker 4: and how you know, Ananaki and draconian forces and different

5:29 Speaker 4: control agendas came in to leverage the trauma that was

5:33 Speaker 4: held in the nervous system of the planet after we

5:36 Speaker 4: fell into this lower harmonic universe. So I've been studying

5:39 Speaker 4: how that relates to the DNA, the zodiac and the

5:46 Speaker 4: reversal grid technology that keeps us sort of dumb down

5:48 Speaker 4: and in these programmings, and how it's used to harvest

5:51 Speaker 4: and siphon our energies for them to battery up artificial

5:54 Speaker 4: timelines that are engineered. So my passion has really been

5:58 Speaker 4: about understanding that and bridging you know, things that took

6:02 Speaker 4: place during Eisenhower's administration into the here and now. Even

6:06 Speaker 4: though I go, you know, all the way back to

6:07 Speaker 4: sort of the beginning, it's kind of like, okay, but

6:11 Speaker 4: this was a very significant administration as far as et

6:15 Speaker 4: contact psy ops that have been projected upon them that

6:21 Speaker 4: I wasn't really understanding fully in the beginning, as far

6:26 Speaker 4: as like did that really happen or not. I was

6:29 Speaker 4: more investigative, you know, things about the Creata Treaty that

6:33 Speaker 4: people say happened in nineteen fifty four, So so that's

6:36 Speaker 4: kind of a bit in a nutshell. I was raised

6:38 Speaker 4: very close to my family son, Eisenhower's son John SD.

6:44 Speaker 4: Eisenhower and I were very close, and we were very

6:47 Speaker 4: very tight knit. I learned a lot just by observing

6:52 Speaker 4: looking in the family albums, seeing you know, he not

6:57 Speaker 4: only took footage of what took place during the Second

7:02 Speaker 4: World War, it was actually in our family albums, you know.

7:04 Speaker 4: I remember being a kid and just flipping through and

7:07 Speaker 4: then just seeing all these books on the walls that

7:09 Speaker 4: family members had written, and just getting nothing but downloads

7:11 Speaker 4: my whole life, and seeing through the programmings and feeling,

7:15 Speaker 4: you know, like even if nobody understands my mission, it

7:19 Speaker 4: was like I was living a double life. I was

7:21 Speaker 4: doing energy that I wrote a book about, and I

7:25 Speaker 4: was just always like functioning at that awareness level. But

7:32 Speaker 4: there were times where I would really slip into confusion

7:36 Speaker 4: or or like is this really happening? Or because I

7:40 Speaker 4: was being targeted the whole time to go off planet

7:43 Speaker 4: because they knew that I was coming in. He was

7:46 Speaker 4: briefed that a descendant would come in and and and

7:49 Speaker 4: supposedly I came in from the galactic realms because I

7:51 Speaker 4: was part of the galactic groups that helped to advise

7:55 Speaker 4: him during his administration, and I chose to come in

7:58 Speaker 4: to bring about disclosure and to protect it from going

8:02 Speaker 4: off kilter, you know, going into you know, a false

8:06 Speaker 4: narrative disclosure because everything's been weaponized. There's a false version

8:10 Speaker 4: to almost everything, the ascension, there's new age bullshit, there's

8:14 Speaker 4: a false disclosure narratives. And so I kind of came

8:16 Speaker 4: in as a guardian protector, like you know, here for truth,

8:20 Speaker 4: like you and so many others, Like we're a team,

8:22 Speaker 4: we're working together, we're you know, doing our best to

8:25 Speaker 4: provide information and but but the deeper intention is truth

8:30 Speaker 4: is the priority, even if it's not what we want

8:33 Speaker 4: to see, and even about him, if it's not what

8:35 Speaker 4: I wanted to see, I'm not going to be biased.

8:37 Speaker 4: But I ended up finding out extraordinary things about him

8:40 Speaker 4: with val Thor and the Guardians that have have really

8:44 Speaker 4: changed what I present and right to a whole new level.

8:50 Speaker 2: Well, my god, did you just drop. For anyone who

8:54 Speaker 2: knows the UFO topic, you there's there's so much to

9:00 Speaker 2: unpack and what you just said, the the little the

9:05 Speaker 2: little like the My god, the it's that the whole

9:10 Speaker 2: spin you literally touched on like every single topic I

9:14 Speaker 2: wanted to all in one sentence, and I'm like, holy shit.

9:19 Speaker 2: But because so to sector it off, it sounds like

9:24 Speaker 2: you're talking about like the valiant thor the person that

9:28 Speaker 2: was I think even pictured right in and.

9:32 Speaker 3: At one point.

9:33 Speaker 2: Pictured, so there is like there is a picture of

9:36 Speaker 2: that guy floating around. But the root of the treaty

9:41 Speaker 2: that you're talking about, now, can you tell us the

9:44 Speaker 2: story about Holloman Air Force Base and uh, Palm Beach

9:50 Speaker 2: and what happened that night that he slipped away if

9:55 Speaker 2: you will. For anyone who doesn't know the story, well.

10:00 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I mean there there, It's easily located on

10:05 Speaker 4: the internet. I have it verbatim because to me, there

10:10 Speaker 4: there's a lot of temporal management going on with timeline

10:14 Speaker 4: corrections and also timeline manipulation coming from those that use

10:18 Speaker 4: technology to alter events. And there's uh in what we

10:23 Speaker 4: see in the news, lots of cover stories, lots of

10:26 Speaker 4: scandals to cover up deeper truths. So that to me

10:31 Speaker 4: was almost like a cover story to to to hone

10:34 Speaker 4: in on something that could become you know, a point

10:39 Speaker 4: of interest, like, oh, he was supposed to he said

10:43 Speaker 4: he was going to a dentist appointment. Did that really happen?

10:45 Speaker 4: And that was a night that he was taken off

10:47 Speaker 4: into this underground base or excuse me, this air force base,

10:51 Speaker 4: hangar or whatever to meet with the Aliens. And there

10:54 Speaker 4: was two encounters in nineteen. The first contact was with

10:57 Speaker 4: the Nordics. They warned about the Grays. The second one came,

11:01 Speaker 4: you know, later on, and that's when, you know, the

11:04 Speaker 4: Grays showed up, and the deal did not seem so

11:08 Speaker 4: terrible that they would take a certain number in exchange

11:11 Speaker 4: for technology. They wouldn't harm them, they would bring them back,

11:13 Speaker 4: they would share the names and all this sort of thing.

11:16 Speaker 4: And it's because they were a dying race and they

11:18 Speaker 4: needed our assistance. So it's not to say that that

11:20 Speaker 4: doesn't happen because there are hybridization programs, there's quite a

11:23 Speaker 4: few of them. But the original treaty and rare abduction

11:28 Speaker 4: scenarios actually originated was really before that, you know. And

11:32 Speaker 4: we're talking about ancient history that we don't learn about

11:36 Speaker 4: in schools connected to anonachy, you know, and the formation

11:40 Speaker 4: of the deep State, the Cabal, the thirteen families, the

11:43 Speaker 4: infrastructure that they built with reversal grid technology to mess

11:47 Speaker 4: with the grids, to build these underground bases and tunnel systems,

11:52 Speaker 4: to you know harvest and siphon our energies, but also

11:56 Speaker 4: to you know abuse children and have this whole network right,

12:04 Speaker 4: you know, being born into a family and being you

12:06 Speaker 4: know taken into these horrific sr and mind control experiments.

12:10 Speaker 4: That has morphed and change over the course of time.

12:14 Speaker 4: So the original treaties, I mean, there's many treaties. If

12:20 Speaker 4: if if one looks at like non intervention agreements, the

12:24 Speaker 4: Emerald Order Pallidorian Covenant, which is the higher groups coming

12:29 Speaker 4: in saying they're not going to allow the Black Sons

12:33 Speaker 4: and the Sons of Belial to uh be controller groups

12:36 Speaker 4: that are going to steer humanity off course. And definitely

12:40 Speaker 4: there's a lot of intervention going on, including the Sophionic

12:43 Speaker 4: energy in the Thirteenth Flame and the Remedial Flame coming

12:45 Speaker 4: from the Mother of the planet herself to help the Akama,

12:50 Speaker 4: the fallen Sofia, the fallen Lucifer and where it becomes

12:53 Speaker 4: archetypal and also you know based in pantheons. So there's

12:58 Speaker 4: so many layers, so many layers, and that I want

13:00 Speaker 4: to get people lost in all this. But nineteen twenty nine,

13:03 Speaker 4: if if we're going to look at governments, you know,

13:06 Speaker 4: on a human scale and level, even though there's this

13:10 Speaker 4: you know, cabal that's been existing because Ari and mafia

13:12 Speaker 4: and you know how they funded both sides of war,

13:15 Speaker 4: and how you know, this sort of satanic synagogue of

13:20 Speaker 4: the fake Jews, and how you know the banksters that

13:24 Speaker 4: we see helped to fund in the hot season, all

13:26 Speaker 4: this crazy stuff that has engineered world wars and events.

13:30 Speaker 4: You know, as you know, people that are pulling the

13:35 Speaker 4: strings way behind the scenes. On the human scale, we're

13:38 Speaker 4: just seeing like countries you know, at war with each other.

13:41 Speaker 4: We're only seeing certain levels and layers and people can't

13:45 Speaker 4: you know, comprehend all.

13:46 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's sorry to interrupt you there, but almost

13:52 Speaker 2: just like reality right in my opinion, you know, if

13:57 Speaker 2: you look at it as kind of this this mirror

14:01 Speaker 2: that you put up, like you said, what we see

14:04 Speaker 2: on the surface is this you know, nation on nation war, right,

14:11 Speaker 2: this this struggle for resource and land, this division. But

14:18 Speaker 2: it's not till you start peeling the onion back do

14:20 Speaker 2: you start to see what the real picture is. And

14:23 Speaker 2: it's almost like reality is that way as well. You

14:26 Speaker 2: have to start peeling it back.

14:28 Speaker 4: Totally right and and you know engineered humans that are

14:32 Speaker 4: carrying personas or they're stuck on labels or you know,

14:35 Speaker 4: being very surface. You know, you got to peel back

14:37 Speaker 4: the layers to find your soul again, to find your truth,

14:40 Speaker 4: to find your authenticity. So on a creation level, we're

14:43 Speaker 4: peeling back the programmings. We're peeling back where I call

14:48 Speaker 4: them kind of like foster parents or like that bad

14:50 Speaker 4: step parent or that evil step parent, or like bad

14:53 Speaker 4: partner narcissists. You know, we're realizing, wait a second, those

14:56 Speaker 4: aren't our real parents. These authority structures are not looking

14:59 Speaker 4: out for us. You know. There there, it couldn't be

15:02 Speaker 4: more abusive and deceptive and manipulative with this problem reaction

15:05 Speaker 4: solution game going on, and it's infiltrated every institution. SOA

15:12 Speaker 4: shows that you know, career, the medical, the health, the education,

15:18 Speaker 4: the entertainment industry, like literally every house of the zodiac,

15:22 Speaker 4: every sign has been weaponized into its inversion where the

15:27 Speaker 4: mothers of darkness and the infrastructure, the illuminati using dark

15:31 Speaker 4: rituals are keeping it in this lower frequency in order

15:35 Speaker 4: to harvest and siphon that energy to remain in power,

15:39 Speaker 4: and and you know, it's just unbelievable. So nineteen twenty

15:42 Speaker 4: nine is when the abductions really began. Not to say

15:46 Speaker 4: they weren't happening before that, but swarp one, you know,

15:51 Speaker 4: we uh, you know, Tesla technology was you know advanced,

15:56 Speaker 4: and the Nazis bought test the Telsa's technology. That's when

16:03 Speaker 4: the agreements and alliances really began to form. Where some

16:07 Speaker 4: of the agreements were all about, you know, abducting you know,

16:11 Speaker 4: humans into this larger picture kind of slave trade, uh,

16:16 Speaker 4: in exchange for us being able to put bases on

16:18 Speaker 4: the moon in Mars and having advanced technology because the

16:22 Speaker 4: you know, the crafts and and things connected to Rill

16:26 Speaker 4: the real society, you know, and Maria Orsiic and all

16:29 Speaker 4: this stuff, uh, and and the Nordics in New Berlin

16:32 Speaker 4: being put you know, in Antarctica. I mean, the reason

16:35 Speaker 4: I'm saying it so fast is because I'm just bullet

16:37 Speaker 4: pointing how many different scenarios were operating until like there

16:43 Speaker 4: was a very pivotal point where Crowley, Churchill and Hitler

16:48 Speaker 4: got into some major agreements with the Draco's and that

16:53 Speaker 4: the interplanetary corporate conglomerate Nazi Draco Alliance, and and that

16:58 Speaker 4: basically solidified this whole kind of out of control scenario

17:04 Speaker 4: of many being abducted for technology or being able to,

17:11 Speaker 4: you know, begin to build these secret space programs and

17:13 Speaker 4: breakaway civilizations. And just like this massive deep state in

17:20 Speaker 4: military industrial complex that took over the United States starting

17:24 Speaker 4: in nineteen forty seven. But the official surrender happened in

17:28 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty two under Truman, where we surrendered in the

17:31 Speaker 4: United States to the Nazi Draco Alliance, And so people

17:35 Speaker 4: think we won the war, but they don't realize that

17:37 Speaker 4: what actually happened was, you know, this infiltration took place

17:42 Speaker 4: and mind control projects monarch montalkk Ultra, yeah, which is

17:50 Speaker 4: you know, a monarch and yeah, yeah, right in the

17:54 Speaker 4: massive infiltration basically moved it into the United States where

17:57 Speaker 4: the Garata Treaty in nineteen fifty four was when US

18:00 Speaker 4: citizens began to be abducted. But the unconditional Surrender agreement

18:05 Speaker 4: put that power into the hands of m J twelve

18:08 Speaker 4: and three letter organizations. So they want to hide That's

18:12 Speaker 4: why it's called shadow government, so they created the syops

18:15 Speaker 4: that Eisenhower signed the treaties, when actually, in actual fact,

18:18 Speaker 4: Eisenhower ordered an invasion on the Dulce underground base in

18:22 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty four to take out the Draco's and the Grays,

18:24 Speaker 4: and he began to work with val Thor that warned

18:29 Speaker 4: the administration, particularly you know, you know Eisenhower who he

18:32 Speaker 4: was mostly in contact with about the Nordics and the

18:35 Speaker 4: Grays because of what happened in nineteen twenty nine. So

18:39 Speaker 4: this whole narrative of oh, he went to the base

18:41 Speaker 4: and met with the Nordics, didn't want to give up. Yeah,

18:47 Speaker 4: it's just yet. And then you know, they warned about

18:50 Speaker 4: the Grays, and then the Grays show up and they

18:52 Speaker 4: were too telepathic, too powerful, uh, And it didn't seem

18:56 Speaker 4: like that bad of an agreement, and he just like

18:57 Speaker 4: signed it while he's sitting at a table with a

18:59 Speaker 4: bunch of Grays and just signs that No, the shadow

19:01 Speaker 4: government had already infiltrated. That's why he had to work

19:04 Speaker 4: covertly to put these countermeasures in place. The white hats

19:08 Speaker 4: you put in place, the Earth Alliance, something called Ike's Force,

19:12 Speaker 4: which are a group of vigilantes, which aren't actually a

19:15 Speaker 4: group vigilantes, meaning they work independently because if they work

19:19 Speaker 4: as a group, they're easily targeted. It works as individuals,

19:22 Speaker 4: similar to a lot of white hats that are more spies.

19:25 Speaker 4: They're in, you know, these these dark, compromised places, but

19:29 Speaker 4: they're operating from, you know, a place of okay, gaining

19:35 Speaker 4: you know, information and data to then you know, perhaps

19:37 Speaker 4: I think, you know, yeah, you hear a lot about it,

19:40 Speaker 4: you know, going into begin to rescue you know, children.

19:44 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of blown up information that's

19:46 Speaker 4: not exactly what's going on, but it is going on.

19:49 Speaker 4: We can see everything crumbling, we can see all is

19:54 Speaker 4: getting purged out and exposed. But anyway, so Eisenhower put

19:57 Speaker 4: countermeasures in place, but everybody's putting the finger at him

20:00 Speaker 4: being the one that signed us on the grays and

20:02 Speaker 4: it wasn't him. So the sources of my information are

20:05 Speaker 4: pretty profound, And anyway, I don't want to overly talk

20:09 Speaker 4: without you sharing, so but I was.

20:13 Speaker 2: I was going to ask, like, you know, how confident

20:17 Speaker 2: are you and what you're saying, And it sounds like

20:21 Speaker 2: you know your source whoever your sources are. Of course,

20:24 Speaker 2: we don't burn anyone here. You're satisfied with what they're

20:28 Speaker 2: telling you in terms of this information.

20:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, because the way that I met this person, and

20:34 Speaker 4: this person's a physicist, he discovered the sixth, seventh, and

20:37 Speaker 4: eighth force, so he's on a tesla level. He did

20:40 Speaker 4: a twenty and back. He served in the Dark Fleet,

20:42 Speaker 4: and he overheard all of this, and he was a

20:45 Speaker 4: sword duellist in the SSP and and he won pretty

20:49 Speaker 4: much every duel. And he was a canse master, which

20:52 Speaker 4: means that he wasn't out to maim anybody or kill anybody,

20:55 Speaker 4: but he was really operating under the control of the

20:58 Speaker 4: Japanese geneticist that created him and two of his brothers,

21:03 Speaker 4: like in a lab literally, So if anybody's going to

21:06 Speaker 4: know what's going on, it's somebody who's like in his seventies,

21:10 Speaker 4: who really doesn't have anything to lose, who has immunities.

21:13 Speaker 4: Never signed an NDA because he won so many duels,

21:16 Speaker 4: they said they would protect him, even the Dark Side

21:18 Speaker 4: did because the Draco's rules so many, so many planets

21:22 Speaker 4: and everything, like you know, they can rule us too,

21:26 Speaker 4: because we have amnesia and we're powerless in when we

21:31 Speaker 4: have amnesia. We're powerless. When we wake up, we hold

21:35 Speaker 4: the power and we can clapse the deep state, we

21:37 Speaker 4: can reverse and correct the planetary grids. So even if

21:43 Speaker 4: we were to reclaim our planet, it's not like that

21:47 Speaker 4: big a deal to the Draco's. They just saw us

21:49 Speaker 4: as vulnerable. It's like it's like any bully or anybody

21:53 Speaker 4: that has power is going to take advantage of humans

21:57 Speaker 4: that have lost their memories or power, and we're on

22:00 Speaker 4: trauma and we're lost, we just become a target. So

22:05 Speaker 4: I think in many ways they can see into the

22:07 Speaker 4: bigger picture that we do reclaim our planet. But until then,

22:11 Speaker 4: as long as we're vulnerable, easily manipulated, and forgetting who

22:15 Speaker 4: we truly are, this control system exists. The thing that

22:19 Speaker 4: makes it hard to break free from is the fact

22:23 Speaker 4: that the deep state and the infrastructure is so so

22:30 Speaker 4: much the system that humans have become dependent on that

22:33 Speaker 4: that that the humans want to keep it because they

22:36 Speaker 4: don't know who they are without it, even though it's collapsing,

22:39 Speaker 4: and even though they've lost their power. You know, we're

22:42 Speaker 4: re routing a lot of humans into you know, rehabilitation

22:46 Speaker 4: and an awakening to move through the trauma and betrayal

22:49 Speaker 4: and and shock of it all, and also all those

22:52 Speaker 4: that were captured, enslaved and tortured and used and blackmailed,

22:56 Speaker 4: and and just a part of that infrastructure, just all

23:00 Speaker 4: the SRA we hear about. So so I'm not saying

23:04 Speaker 4: that the DraCos want to give us up, but somebody

23:07 Speaker 4: like Dan who like gained their respect and realized like, wow, okay,

23:13 Speaker 4: he's operating on this whole other level. All right, we'll

23:15 Speaker 4: give him immunities. He won't sign an NDA, but it

23:18 Speaker 4: doesn't mean that we will override what they're attempting to do. Uh,

23:24 Speaker 4: it's just you know, basically that was what they granted him. Also,

23:29 Speaker 4: val Thor he has immunities. He went rogue because of

23:35 Speaker 4: uh yeah, he wasn't operating under the non intervention agreements.

23:39 Speaker 4: He broke free from.

23:40 Speaker 3: That and tried to change, yeah, how it was happening.

23:45 Speaker 4: And then Valfoor helped Eisenhower. Well, Eisenhower appealed to the

23:50 Speaker 4: Guardians with the help of val Thor. So the Guardians,

23:52 Speaker 4: which you know are are the eighth force. They use

23:55 Speaker 4: the aid force, that's their you know, vibration and essence

24:00 Speaker 4: put this outer barrier around the planet. To kind of

24:03 Speaker 4: corner the hybrids, the Illuminati deep state players from being

24:09 Speaker 4: able to escape and leave, and to keep any more

24:13 Speaker 4: nefarious beings from being able to come in. So what

24:15 Speaker 4: happened was the Gray abductions sort of shifted into military abductions,

24:21 Speaker 4: my labs and you know, wiping memories from people and

24:26 Speaker 4: creating engineered versions and fake abductions, artificial telepathy, utilizing all

24:32 Speaker 4: the technology that they were given to then mimic what

24:36 Speaker 4: ETS are capable of doing in order to blame it

24:38 Speaker 4: on the aliens and still hide blame it on Eisenhower,

24:43 Speaker 4: blame it on the ETS, and we're still the shadow government.

24:45 Speaker 4: But that is what I'm you know, working on exposing.

24:49 Speaker 4: And I don't have it all figured out. But that's

24:51 Speaker 4: why these conversations are important, because you have pieces, eye

24:54 Speaker 4: of pieces. Other people have pieces, but there's a lot

24:56 Speaker 4: we have to let go of that we might have

24:58 Speaker 4: thought actually happened that day that was created as a

25:02 Speaker 4: sigh up, you know, like nine to eleven, Is that

25:04 Speaker 4: really the official story? COVID? Is that really the official story?

25:08 Speaker 4: And on and on? Right?

25:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually just I'm doing in an investigative series

25:12 Speaker 2: right now on nine to eleven. I've I just had

25:15 Speaker 2: a Pentagon first responder here, and then I just interviewed

25:22 Speaker 2: one of the Jersey girls whose husband their husbands died

25:30 Speaker 2: working in the towers on one hundred and fifth floor.

25:33 Speaker 2: And they're the girl the wives that pressured for the

25:36 Speaker 2: nine to eleven Commission report, which was whitewashed anyway, But

25:40 Speaker 2: they are under the impression. All of these people that

25:44 Speaker 2: I've talked to, they they subscribe to the idea that

25:51 Speaker 2: the government used directed energy weapons on.

25:55 Speaker 3: The towers that day.

25:57 Speaker 2: I mean, how can I look up responder to the

26:01 Speaker 2: Pentagon and then a wife of you know, someone who

26:07 Speaker 2: worked in that in that building every day, and if

26:10 Speaker 2: they've done the work and come to this conclusion, how

26:13 Speaker 2: can I discount that? Like I have to take it seriously.

26:19 Speaker 2: And and the the first responder he you're muted, by

26:22 Speaker 2: the way. The first responder just simply said to me,

26:24 Speaker 2: and I asked, point blank, when you showed up, what

26:27 Speaker 2: did you see? And he said, I'm gonna stop you

26:30 Speaker 2: there A plane did not hit that building. And I just,

26:35 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't. I wasn't there. I was in

26:37 Speaker 2: third grade. He was there, you know. So uh, with

26:42 Speaker 2: nine to eleven. I do believe I, at least at

26:46 Speaker 2: this point, looking at like doctor.

26:49 Speaker 3: Judy Woods's work on the like where did the rubble go?

26:52 Speaker 2: And and again I don't want to go down in

26:54 Speaker 2: the nine to eleven rabbit hole, but I do think

26:56 Speaker 2: that that was when the seed was not maybe not

27:00 Speaker 2: even the seed, but the grip by the the shadow

27:05 Speaker 2: government tightened. And then with COVID, it just it just

27:12 Speaker 2: and I don't want to I don't even want to

27:13 Speaker 2: know what comes next, because is it? It really does sound

27:17 Speaker 2: like if you're watching the news, you know, Fox News

27:19 Speaker 2: sounds like Coast to coast lately where they're talking about

27:22 Speaker 2: different aliens and and and and that's that's fine with me.

27:26 Speaker 2: But if Fox News is talking about that, what's about

27:30 Speaker 2: to happen?

27:32 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, right, like some sort of fake blueberry

27:35 Speaker 5: you know, uh, fake alien invasion, you know, the ultimate

27:39 Speaker 5: you know, Werner von Braun warned about this kind of thing,

27:42 Speaker 5: the the last card that they would play.

27:46 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, it's it's just looking more like

27:49 Speaker 2: that might be a reality.

27:51 Speaker 3: And you know, uh uh it frightens me.

27:55 Speaker 4: Well when you say that might be a reality, what

27:58 Speaker 4: might be your reality?

28:00 Speaker 2: That the government is gearing up to, yes, give us

28:05 Speaker 2: some sort of disclosure.

28:07 Speaker 4: Recognize that you were saying, I just wanted to you know,

28:10 Speaker 4: so when I, oh, I might as well change the

28:12 Speaker 4: glasses on my head, you know, as I answered, I

28:16 Speaker 4: know exactly, yeah, what you're saying about that. And that's

28:19 Speaker 4: the thing about disclosure. It can't be up to the governments.

28:22 Speaker 4: The governments, even if this administration is not fully deep

28:28 Speaker 4: state controlled, just like in Eisenhewer's administration, there are players

28:36 Speaker 4: that will continue to try and run the show. It

28:40 Speaker 4: doesn't mean that there isn't a lot going on in

28:42 Speaker 4: the background that we just can't see. That's why when

28:45 Speaker 4: he worked with bal Thor was very covert. After the

28:48 Speaker 4: invasion of Dulce that was not successful in fifty seven

28:52 Speaker 4: nineteen fifty seven, he wanted he threatened to invade Area

28:55 Speaker 4: fifty one. And people say this on their deathbed. Most

28:59 Speaker 4: know that their lives will be lost if they say

29:01 Speaker 4: it sooner. We saw a lot of people being taken

29:04 Speaker 4: out during that time and still in the times that

29:06 Speaker 4: we're in. So to get the truth out is not

29:09 Speaker 4: something that's just going to be easily disclosed, like, oh,

29:11 Speaker 4: I got the files here, let's just like open it up,

29:13 Speaker 4: you know, really after all.

29:16 Speaker 2: That's what I think these missing scientists and dead engineers.

29:21 Speaker 2: I think that is a signal to like the public

29:26 Speaker 2: facing government right now. That is kind of like, you know,

29:30 Speaker 2: giving us the UFO files and the videos. I think,

29:34 Speaker 2: in my opinion, like the General mccaslin's, the Amy s coriages,

29:38 Speaker 2: I think they were warnings like, hey, pursue this further exactly,

29:44 Speaker 2: and people are gonna start dying right now, right I mean,

29:49 Speaker 2: And when you talk about the Dulcet and invasion, are

29:53 Speaker 2: you talking about like the Phil Schneider event.

29:56 Speaker 4: I'm talking about Eisenhower ordered an invasion on Dulcine underground base.

30:01 Speaker 4: And the man that told me this is connected with

30:04 Speaker 4: people that were there. This is something that they wiped

30:07 Speaker 4: and replaced with. Oh, he signed treaties with the grace.

30:09 Speaker 4: You're not going to hear that he actually tried to

30:11 Speaker 4: take them out. Nineteen sixty nine was when Phil Schneider

30:15 Speaker 4: was involved in the wars. So we're talking like a

30:17 Speaker 4: major like way later the Dulce wars, the ones that

30:20 Speaker 4: we hear about because they were okay even though they

30:23 Speaker 4: you know, were taken out. Those stories becoming public. Yeah,

30:29 Speaker 4: we're the beginning of people really opening up to you know,

30:35 Speaker 4: all this stuff. William Cooper as well, but they still

30:39 Speaker 4: had access to information that was on a need to

30:41 Speaker 4: know basis. The compartmentalism is very much alive. Nobody has

30:44 Speaker 4: full access to anything without there being some kind of

30:46 Speaker 4: compartments involved, because that is the strategy that we don't

30:50 Speaker 4: get the full picture. So a lot of people that

30:52 Speaker 4: are like, this is what happened, or this is what's

30:54 Speaker 4: going on, or this is what I experienced. You know,

30:56 Speaker 4: there's a whole bunch of other stuff going on that

30:59 Speaker 4: we wouldn't be able to piece together unless we began

31:02 Speaker 4: to break down those walls and not just stick with

31:03 Speaker 4: one narrative. The whole deal is is that narratives being

31:06 Speaker 4: steered aren't necessarily seeing what's behind a certain door or compartment.

31:12 Speaker 4: So so Dan's been able to access, uh, you know,

31:16 Speaker 4: these these other layers. But bringing it back to what

31:21 Speaker 4: you were saying, so, you know, governments and disclosure and

31:24 Speaker 4: the voices that we hear, it's only one part of

31:27 Speaker 4: the story. Gives us enough truth, but but it doesn't

31:32 Speaker 4: it doesn't bring in, you know, the fullness of of

31:34 Speaker 4: what we need to know. Yes, the white hats are

31:37 Speaker 4: very active things that Eisenhower said in motion and those

31:40 Speaker 4: before him, and just all those that were in agreement,

31:42 Speaker 4: all the humans that were born with missions. You know,

31:44 Speaker 4: we're a team. It's not about the hierarchical government structure.

31:47 Speaker 4: There are many leaders amongst us. It's not about you know,

31:50 Speaker 4: the presidency, but it holds the power to reach the people.

31:55 Speaker 4: Uh and and be taken seriously because it's considered the authority,

31:58 Speaker 4: But is it really the ultimate authority. There has to

32:01 Speaker 4: be you know, an administration which this one is way

32:04 Speaker 4: more aligned with, that gives the voice back to the people.

32:07 Speaker 4: That disclosure is coming from the people, because they're the experiences.

32:11 Speaker 4: They're the experiencers, many researchers, many authors, many people from

32:16 Speaker 4: all over the world that have had disclosures for a

32:21 Speaker 4: really long time that need to be heard. So when

32:23 Speaker 4: it's all limited to oh now this is coming out,

32:27 Speaker 4: what is what is being said, what is being ignored,

32:30 Speaker 4: what is being smeared, what is being silenced? Like you said,

32:32 Speaker 4: who is being taken out? So we have to just

32:36 Speaker 4: kind of keep investigating, and you know, some might be

32:39 Speaker 4: in witness protection, some family members came forward and said,

32:42 Speaker 4: you know, we know how he died. He wasn't taken out,

32:44 Speaker 4: so stop saying that you know it was because of

32:47 Speaker 4: these reasons. But still are they trying to protect somebody?

32:51 Speaker 4: Are they being threatened.

32:54 Speaker 3: Exactly?

32:55 Speaker 4: We just don't know. We just don't know. So the

32:58 Speaker 4: best we can do is when we hear things or

33:00 Speaker 4: see things that we we come together more than ever.

33:04 Speaker 4: This is why some events that begin to shut people

33:07 Speaker 4: out and some of the superficial dramas make it really hard,

33:10 Speaker 4: because you know, there's too much at stake to just

33:14 Speaker 4: stick with a few things. We need to make sure

33:18 Speaker 4: that you know everything's being shared, and it's okay that

33:20 Speaker 4: you know not everybody's coming together fully and completely, but

33:23 Speaker 4: there needs to be threads of communication amongst all of

33:26 Speaker 4: us and to get beyond the divide and conquer the

33:29 Speaker 4: ego battles, the competitions, because uh, there's there's there's a

33:35 Speaker 4: there's just too much at stake. There is like when

33:39 Speaker 4: we're fractured and conquered and divided and playing into these

33:44 Speaker 4: ego battles and games, that's where we're easily manipulated and

33:49 Speaker 4: and that's where the dark agendas really continue. You know,

33:54 Speaker 4: there there their destruction on us. That's because that's that's

34:00 Speaker 4: what they want. If we unify, they have nothing to

34:03 Speaker 4: feed on anymore. They want the loose, they want the

34:05 Speaker 4: ego battles, they want the division amongst each other. And

34:10 Speaker 4: I'm not saying anybody's doing it intentionally just because it

34:13 Speaker 4: kind of looks like that and feels like that, But

34:14 Speaker 4: we know that a lot of that does exist. We

34:16 Speaker 4: don't have to name names, and it's intentional. And if

34:20 Speaker 4: we don't heal it and rise above it and come

34:22 Speaker 4: together more strongly than ever, then whatever we're disclosing might

34:26 Speaker 4: literally give power away to the very thing that people

34:28 Speaker 4: think they're battling, because they're taking advantage of what we

34:31 Speaker 4: have not stepped into and matured about, which is spiritual

34:35 Speaker 4: growth and ascension. So if we don't get on the

34:37 Speaker 4: ascension path, yeah, we're going to be preyed upon. It's

34:39 Speaker 4: not ego and information that wins the war, it's unity

34:43 Speaker 4: and healing and understanding. You know how much is trying

34:49 Speaker 4: to keep us from achieving you know, a particular goal

34:52 Speaker 4: that they've been targeting all along, which is right, heal

34:55 Speaker 4: and come together.

34:57 Speaker 2: Right, And you know it's for me, it's very reminiscent.

35:01 Speaker 2: Whether you're a believer of you know, the Bible or not.

35:07 Speaker 2: I think it's you know, but if you look at

35:10 Speaker 2: the story and I'm not I'm not religious, particularly spiritual,

35:15 Speaker 2: but if you look at the story, that's our Bible, right,

35:18 Speaker 2: there's nothing a united humanity couldn't do. And when we

35:22 Speaker 2: get too close, we're struck down and divided by language

35:26 Speaker 2: and color of skin. And then we we do their

35:30 Speaker 2: bidding even further by sequestering ourselves into these groups, right,

35:34 Speaker 2: like you're gay, you know, or you know, uh, sex, creed, religion.

35:44 Speaker 2: We just we love to like be in a box

35:48 Speaker 2: and and and if you're not with us, you're against us.

35:52 Speaker 2: And you know, that's not how it was for for

35:55 Speaker 2: a lot of my life growing up. But the Internet

35:58 Speaker 2: has just I don't know what it's done, but it

36:01 Speaker 2: has corrupted people to the point where again, you can't

36:05 Speaker 2: have a civil conversation if you're not on like even

36:08 Speaker 2: the same political party, which is.

36:11 Speaker 4: It's blast so many relationships and friendships.

36:16 Speaker 3: People block their mothers.

36:17 Speaker 4: I know, I know, And I'm helping my son navigate

36:20 Speaker 4: just these differences with his girlfriend. I'm like are you.

36:23 Speaker 4: This is exactly what they want. Love is so different

36:26 Speaker 4: than this. These are just opinions. This is in doctor said,

36:29 Speaker 4: this is just a life because they're leveraging, they're they're

36:32 Speaker 4: taking it. They're weaponizing humans good intent, you know, like

36:37 Speaker 4: funded movements to get people all riled up to to

36:41 Speaker 4: be in a trauma loop and then the bigger, the

36:43 Speaker 4: biggest victim wins. So it's more being an empowered victim

36:47 Speaker 4: instead of being an empowered healer that can see through

36:50 Speaker 4: this and say let's hug and come together. Anyway, let's

36:53 Speaker 4: not make it about you know, who you're aligning with,

36:57 Speaker 4: and make it more about is this really achieving the

37:00 Speaker 4: goal of us rising above victimhood and realizing we've all

37:04 Speaker 4: been hurt and traumatized to a certain degree, you know,

37:07 Speaker 4: and even if whatever color skin were, and we might

37:09 Speaker 4: have had past lives you know, as a black person

37:12 Speaker 4: being enslaved or you know, the iris thatt regenus just like,

37:17 Speaker 4: let's just drop the We got to just flip from

37:20 Speaker 4: the heart and almost like oh that's too woo woo,

37:24 Speaker 4: that's to this or that. No, no, we we we

37:27 Speaker 4: have to fight our way to you know, somebody winning

37:30 Speaker 4: being right, and everybody being Okay, you're right, so we'll

37:33 Speaker 4: just comply and we'll just give our powerway to you. No,

37:36 Speaker 4: that's the same game the deep state is doing. They

37:38 Speaker 4: want us to become them. They want to program us

37:41 Speaker 4: into becoming the very archetypal dysfunction that has taken place

37:48 Speaker 4: in these pantheons with the anonachy and how they all

37:50 Speaker 4: get along. It's like warring brothers competing agendas. The divine

37:54 Speaker 4: feminine being exiled and you know, just you know, the

37:57 Speaker 4: imbos asking feminine as long as it's kept alive and

38:00 Speaker 4: we succumb to that inheritance of program, then we're doing

38:05 Speaker 4: it in smaller ways in how they're doing it in

38:07 Speaker 4: a more concentrated version, in a very very sick, demented way,

38:11 Speaker 4: in the deeper aspects of it. But think of how

38:13 Speaker 4: many energy vampires there are, Think of how many crime

38:16 Speaker 4: shows there are. There's news stories, but when you look

38:19 Speaker 4: at it, there's like eighteen seasons of evil lips here,

38:23 Speaker 4: eighteen seasons of dysfunction. That is so sick and so

38:28 Speaker 4: dark that we can think, yeah, humans, you know, we're

38:31 Speaker 4: such a good species, and we are, but this is

38:35 Speaker 4: all based in mind control. And social engineering and absolute

38:38 Speaker 4: abuse because the system supports criminal activity, division, divorce, perversion,

38:46 Speaker 4: you know, children, you know, screaming for candy and materialism.

38:50 Speaker 4: You know, the whole system is set up for us

38:53 Speaker 4: to live in this addiction matrix of inversion and dependency.

38:58 Speaker 4: So humans are not even acting like their true nature.

39:00 Speaker 4: We're divining and they're afraid of us remembering who we

39:04 Speaker 4: are because when we do, we're the advanced race and

39:07 Speaker 4: they have nothing to feed on. They used to be that,

39:10 Speaker 4: but they compromise their DNA on purpose because they got

39:12 Speaker 4: addicted to control.

39:14 Speaker 2: Holy shit, So let me ask you something real quick.

39:20 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't let me ask you something as

39:22 Speaker 2: I talk to you on the podcast, as if I

39:25 Speaker 2: wasn't going to ask anything.

39:26 Speaker 3: You're so dumb, But.

39:29 Speaker 2: Uh what what do you so clearly you believe that humans,

39:38 Speaker 2: so humans are special. Now for whatever reason that is

39:44 Speaker 2: that is semantics at the moment. Do you think that

39:50 Speaker 2: part of why potentially they kept this from us, or

39:58 Speaker 2: you know, kept us from knowing the actual truth is

40:01 Speaker 2: because it is a little darker, It is a little

40:04 Speaker 2: bit inherently kind of scary, and it is potentially kind

40:09 Speaker 2: of us meeting our maker you know how they had

40:14 Speaker 2: a hand in our our creation potentially, and you know,

40:17 Speaker 2: maybe many and maybe they felt that we weren't ready

40:21 Speaker 2: or do you think they do it for.

40:22 Speaker 3: More of a of a.

40:26 Speaker 2: Malevolent reason, like I want to keep them away from

40:29 Speaker 2: Creator because I want to be the only one who's

40:32 Speaker 2: in contact and I want to you know, keep everyone

40:36 Speaker 2: else down and and remain you know, the only one

40:41 Speaker 2: who gets to suck on the tee if you will.

40:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're talking about the controller groups and

40:46 Speaker 4: just the fall and groups, and if you can explain

40:50 Speaker 4: how that works, I mean, and we see it in

40:53 Speaker 4: our own lives when you're with an energy vampire or

40:56 Speaker 4: you know, somebody that wants to keep God wants to

41:01 Speaker 4: take advantage of your insecurities or wounds and keep you small,

41:04 Speaker 4: keep you just needing outside validation. You know, people that

41:10 Speaker 4: fall into the Stockholm syndrome with their you know, captors

41:13 Speaker 4: or abusers. Is a really great example of how it works.

41:17 Speaker 4: You really begin to manipulate somebody's sense of self worth

41:20 Speaker 4: and belonging even to the point where, uh, they can

41:25 Speaker 4: overlook abuse and and and mistreatment and and and evil

41:30 Speaker 4: if if they're you know, targeted, Uh, in that way.

41:34 Speaker 4: So uh, and and there's varying degrees of it, you know,

41:37 Speaker 4: when it gets down to you know, the the deepest

41:40 Speaker 4: levels of depravity and vampiresm you know, the torture of

41:46 Speaker 4: you know, children from the very beginning is is unbelievable.

41:50 Speaker 1: Uh.

41:52 Speaker 4: The more I hear people's stories, uh, you know that

41:56 Speaker 4: really really survived the s R and the MK ultra,

41:59 Speaker 4: it is unbelievable. How advanced this is, and how calculating

42:03 Speaker 4: it is, and how thorough it is, and how they

42:06 Speaker 4: leave no stone left unturned and literally because you know,

42:10 Speaker 4: the minute we begin to connect with source energy, you know,

42:12 Speaker 4: they have nothing to feed on anymore.

42:14 Speaker 2: So.

42:15 Speaker 4: The ether element, which is part of our DNA. The

42:18 Speaker 4: nucleic acids of our DNA are elemental earth, air, firewater, ether.

42:22 Speaker 4: The inverted pentagram, which we see symbolic and satanism is

42:27 Speaker 4: the ether energy. The fifth point that you know when

42:31 Speaker 4: it goes up is connected to the ether. The inversion

42:35 Speaker 4: means that the ether is going into the ground, that

42:38 Speaker 4: the horns of the devil or satan, and that symbology

42:42 Speaker 4: is related to the planetary grid network and the reversal

42:47 Speaker 4: grid technology that put things in reversal and inversion. The

42:50 Speaker 4: Nuphlin reversal grid and Theniberian Dietic Crystal Grid were placed

42:54 Speaker 4: on the Michael Mary lines in the Stonehenge area. Most

42:57 Speaker 4: of these stargates have infiltration and reversal energy uh the

43:02 Speaker 4: tenth Gate Iran Iraq. So so they literally weaponize the

43:07 Speaker 4: planetary grid network to put us in duality. They unplugged

43:12 Speaker 4: the albion and cath our body to disconnect the masculine

43:16 Speaker 4: and feminine, so it would be all about uh duality,

43:20 Speaker 4: competition and not the Christ. So fear not the union

43:24 Speaker 4: that we see in you know, the incarnations of Yeshua, Jesus, Christ, Magdalene,

43:29 Speaker 4: Siva shot. You know, just all these reminders that whoa,

43:33 Speaker 4: these higher levels of our DNA are where alchemical union

43:37 Speaker 4: and sacred union and high organic union exists. So the

43:41 Speaker 4: whole junk DNA is, none of that exists. That's all junk.

43:44 Speaker 4: The reversal grid energy that keeps us in three D,

43:47 Speaker 4: keeps us in this dependency bond. Yeah, don't ever find

43:51 Speaker 4: out about what that junk DNA is. Don't ever you know,

43:54 Speaker 4: truly understand Jesus's relationship with Magdalene. Let's you know, have

43:58 Speaker 4: religions that just make your you know, healed wrror from ely. Yeah.

44:04 Speaker 4: So so all distortion, all distortion, because what they're afraid

44:08 Speaker 4: of is when we really recognize that union, our divine blueprint,

44:12 Speaker 4: we we start to correct the reversal grid technologies that

44:16 Speaker 4: were put in place, because our frequency, when we're aligned

44:21 Speaker 4: and and and as it begins to upgrade, literally dismantles

44:23 Speaker 4: the dark weaponry because it's all about frequency. We're the

44:26 Speaker 4: higher frequency. So so five G chemtrails. Geoengineering is social engineering.

44:35 Speaker 4: It's the same thing because socially engineered humans live in

44:38 Speaker 4: a geo engineered world. Because that's what's reflecting back. Humans

44:42 Speaker 4: that are controlled, their elementals are being controlled, placed in

44:45 Speaker 4: an inversion depression, anger, misplaced, you know, anger that you

44:49 Speaker 4: don't understand. The earth body degenerates really fast. We're aging

44:52 Speaker 4: a lot faster than we should. All our elementals are

44:55 Speaker 4: being weaponized or targeted. The fire element war anger, like

45:01 Speaker 4: I said, the mind mind control chemtrails air the air element,

45:07 Speaker 4: which is the mental. So you can see it in

45:09 Speaker 4: the zodiac. And that's what my presentations are about. So literally,

45:13 Speaker 4: the whole system is rigged to keep us from true

45:17 Speaker 4: source because as long as we're you know, caught in

45:21 Speaker 4: these inversions, we think something's wrong with us. There comes

45:24 Speaker 4: to fart, paraceuticals go on antidepressants.

45:26 Speaker 2: Going oh my god, I was literally just going to

45:29 Speaker 2: say it like and I hate to go to that

45:33 Speaker 2: conspiratorial because you know, I am the host and I

45:37 Speaker 2: do pride myself on trying to stay you know, neutral

45:40 Speaker 2: in some sense.

45:41 Speaker 3: But it is weird that.

45:46 Speaker 2: You look around at everybody today and they're either glued

45:50 Speaker 2: to their phone, but you're It's it's hard when you

45:54 Speaker 2: say because a lot of people are going to hear

45:56 Speaker 2: what you're saying and they're going to And I assume

45:59 Speaker 2: this probably happen to you a lot, because not only

46:02 Speaker 2: are you a female.

46:04 Speaker 3: But you're very well educated and well versed.

46:10 Speaker 2: And with the confidence you speak, you get a lot

46:14 Speaker 2: of information packed into your sentences. So I can only

46:18 Speaker 2: assume that people don't always take you seriously or check

46:25 Speaker 2: out or whatever because they're like, this is too wild.

46:29 Speaker 4: Right now, you're right fast, I talk fast. I crammed

46:33 Speaker 4: so much into a few sentences and I really want

46:37 Speaker 4: to work on my delivery.

46:38 Speaker 3: But isn't it weird?

46:40 Speaker 2: Isn't it weird, how what Because essentially what you're saying

46:46 Speaker 2: is that we're kept in this like environment where we

46:51 Speaker 2: go to our shitty job, you know, at nine, and

46:57 Speaker 2: we clock out at five, you know, the eight hours

47:01 Speaker 2: that are the best of the day we're at work

47:03 Speaker 2: for and we punch in. We probably you know, ninety

47:08 Speaker 2: percent of us. You know, I'm saying that generally they

47:12 Speaker 2: probably don't like their job. They just do it because

47:16 Speaker 2: they need the money to pay back the loans that

47:19 Speaker 2: they took out to go to college, which they didn't need,

47:22 Speaker 2: and they're stuck in this and financial depression that is

47:26 Speaker 2: the one that hurts a different way. And they get

47:30 Speaker 2: all these young kids to sign away their life before

47:34 Speaker 2: their brain's even fucking fully developed, and they got them

47:37 Speaker 2: in you know, debt that's gonna outlast their life most likely,

47:43 Speaker 2: you know, depending on the career path they chose, God forbid,

47:46 Speaker 2: it's a doctor.

47:48 Speaker 3: But they get them in and in.

47:50 Speaker 2: The system real quick, and they ensure that that, you know,

47:53 Speaker 2: in order to get a good job, you got to

47:55 Speaker 2: go to college. That is spit down your throat for

47:58 Speaker 2: the first eighteen years of your life. So then you

48:00 Speaker 2: think you got to go to college in which you

48:02 Speaker 2: know again, and I hate to go off on a

48:05 Speaker 2: rent here, but higher learning is definitely something that I

48:09 Speaker 2: think should exist, absolutely should exist. But it's not as

48:14 Speaker 2: critical as it's made out to be. And you don't

48:18 Speaker 2: need to put yourself into fifty years of debt in

48:22 Speaker 2: order to go to college. It's it's a weird idea.

48:25 Speaker 2: But then you get depressed because you're constantly going to

48:30 Speaker 2: this shitty job that you don't like, talking to people

48:33 Speaker 2: that you don't really care to talk to. You you

48:36 Speaker 2: come home, you know, maybe what you know, you get

48:41 Speaker 2: to take one vacation a year.

48:43 Speaker 3: This is not how we were supposed to live.

48:46 Speaker 4: No, and and and that's what creates.

48:49 Speaker 2: And they Yeah, then they get you on SSRIs because

48:51 Speaker 2: you're depressed. And then and then and then twenty years passes.

48:57 Speaker 4: Right, and it's your body's way of saying, hey, listen,

49:00 Speaker 4: you're not depressed because something's wrong with you. You're depressed because

49:03 Speaker 4: you need to listen to what your soul longing is

49:05 Speaker 4: and and and give it respect, give it attention. Anger

49:09 Speaker 4: is is you know, like we got to flip it around.

49:12 Speaker 4: You're passionate about something, but you're angry because you feel

49:15 Speaker 4: maybe helpless or you see something that I don't know

49:21 Speaker 4: angers you. Uh but but that's also a call to action.

49:25 Speaker 4: That is your fire, that is your that is that

49:28 Speaker 4: is where your leadership rises. Right. So studying the zodiac

49:31 Speaker 4: not just like the way maybe typical astrologers do. I

49:35 Speaker 4: I've looked at it from the angle of programmings, dark weapons,

49:38 Speaker 4: Saturn moon matrix, you know, Saturn planetary grid reversals, how

49:44 Speaker 4: the original tones turned into these personality traits that you know,

49:49 Speaker 4: scorpios can be very scary or like very obsessive or

49:52 Speaker 4: very jealous. Right, but the higher octave is transformation alchemy,

49:56 Speaker 4: Like we are encouraged to live the lowest level of

49:59 Speaker 4: what these aspects represent the whole. Our societies are geared

50:03 Speaker 4: towards that or you know, are self worth, the need

50:06 Speaker 4: for achievement, good grades, reward, you know, the reward punishment system.

50:10 Speaker 4: I have to behave and be rewarded for it. And

50:14 Speaker 4: most people that are rewarded to are serving agendas. They

50:17 Speaker 4: don't realize they're serving because in these rituals and in

50:23 Speaker 4: this sort of mk ultra you know, illuminati, you know

50:27 Speaker 4: kind of family, uh like just all that they you know,

50:30 Speaker 4: do to individuals is to groom them, abuse them and

50:34 Speaker 4: talk to them, and groom them to play roles, to

50:37 Speaker 4: become doctors, to become Hollywood stars, to become politicians, to

50:42 Speaker 4: influence those that went to school for it, to buy

50:45 Speaker 4: into a certain narrative and influence humanity to you know,

50:49 Speaker 4: adopt it, because they end up being you know, the

50:51 Speaker 4: CEOs do they end up being the A lister or

50:54 Speaker 4: they end up being the chief medical guide that tells

50:57 Speaker 4: everybody else, this is what you have to do, you know, especial.

51:00 Speaker 4: See what happened in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty with you

51:02 Speaker 4: know what, I want to be careful what I say.

51:04 Speaker 4: I don't know about your channel, but it is they

51:07 Speaker 4: were listening to the higher ups, right, but they were

51:10 Speaker 4: listening to the deeper agendas and running alters and being

51:15 Speaker 4: you know, not even fully. I mean, it's just so insane.

51:19 Speaker 4: So so the people that create the system, that had

51:24 Speaker 4: the money to create the system, that engineer and groom

51:27 Speaker 4: and abuse individuals to become influencers in all the fields

51:32 Speaker 4: that run our societies are convincing humans that are being

51:37 Speaker 4: raised in the system to become them to emulate that.

51:40 Speaker 4: I want to go to Hollywood or I want to be,

51:42 Speaker 4: you know, but there's players there that are steering narratives

51:45 Speaker 4: that they adopt and pass on to their patients, their students,

51:52 Speaker 4: you know, those that are watching the televisions and those

51:54 Speaker 4: that are watching the movies to you know, fall and

51:59 Speaker 4: fall prey to a lot of very damaging things, and

52:03 Speaker 4: very much well intentioned people get caught up in it.

52:07 Speaker 4: So the whole key of waking up is to correct

52:11 Speaker 4: the inversion, to begin to bring the highest octave in.

52:16 Speaker 4: And this is where society, you know, is collapsing inversion

52:20 Speaker 4: and and something else is emerging that is much more holistic,

52:23 Speaker 4: you know, instead of prisons, maybe rehabilitation centers, you know,

52:28 Speaker 4: where the tech that mind control people to turn into

52:32 Speaker 4: assassins or murderous people, you know, is de weaponized to

52:36 Speaker 4: help them activate parts of their brain that remind them

52:39 Speaker 4: of love, remind them of truth, you know, because you know,

52:42 Speaker 4: if you can turn a perfectly beautiful child into a

52:45 Speaker 4: sex slaver an assassin, you know, can't we use technology

52:51 Speaker 4: in a positive way that helps us to upgrade our

52:54 Speaker 4: DNA and return to the heart, you know. So I'm

52:56 Speaker 4: just saying that, like everything couldn't be more out of whack.

52:59 Speaker 4: When you look at the criminals and their activity, you

53:03 Speaker 4: know this is not how they began. This is this

53:06 Speaker 4: is so I don't know if I'm articulating this well

53:09 Speaker 4: because I have so much jet Like, I'm so sorry everybody,

53:12 Speaker 4: but I guess what I'm trying to say is how

53:15 Speaker 4: the nervous system of the planet is the planetary grid

53:18 Speaker 4: network in reversal. With the power structures of society being infiltrated,

53:24 Speaker 4: We're literally being raised into a system that is encouraging

53:27 Speaker 4: us to seek the lowest level of our nature and

53:32 Speaker 4: be addicted to it because it gets rewarded. Uh and

53:37 Speaker 4: and it hit certain parts of our brain that you know,

53:42 Speaker 4: becomes addictive instead of true spiritual light, instead of things

53:45 Speaker 4: that are sustaining, instead of things that are rewarding. We've

53:49 Speaker 4: been so right that we don't realize that we've enabled

53:54 Speaker 4: the satanic agendas. We've been We've been enablers because we've

53:58 Speaker 4: allowed our creative energy to be infiltrated and infected by

54:03 Speaker 4: all of this stuff that we gladly hand over our

54:05 Speaker 4: power and then walk a timeline is that is taking

54:08 Speaker 4: us into more enslavement and new world order and and yes,

54:12 Speaker 4: you know instant gratification and you know appeasing things in

54:16 Speaker 4: the brains, sugar, drugs, alcohol, you know all the inversions

54:22 Speaker 4: in the sexual energies and how it's being put out

54:27 Speaker 4: there jobs and careers that will make you a lot

54:30 Speaker 4: of money and give you all those things. Most of

54:32 Speaker 4: these people have to be heavily medicated though, to compensate

54:36 Speaker 4: for the things that they're addicted to that give them

54:39 Speaker 4: that high and low and extreme of experience to where

54:44 Speaker 4: none of the relationships end up working out and there's

54:46 Speaker 4: an epidemic of divorce and infidelity and fer. Yeah, that

54:51 Speaker 4: that everything could be more unhealthy. But the thing is

54:55 Speaker 4: we have to recognize that the adversity and disease that

54:58 Speaker 4: we may fall prey to is the path home again.

55:02 Speaker 4: It's the body's way of saying, these programmings aren't sitting

55:05 Speaker 4: well in my physical body. It's actually giving you cancer,

55:07 Speaker 4: is making you sick, it's giving you diabetes. This is

55:10 Speaker 4: an opportunity instead of giving your power away more. It's like, Okay,

55:14 Speaker 4: my body is alerting me to get to know myself more,

55:17 Speaker 4: to actually tune in to what my soul is saying

55:21 Speaker 4: to why I'm depressed to why I'm angry. So you know,

55:24 Speaker 4: let's put the drugs to the side and actually cry

55:27 Speaker 4: and listen and honor these parts of ourselves instead of

55:31 Speaker 4: be afraid of them. So all the planetary alignments that

55:35 Speaker 4: are healing the planetary system, which is major to hohod

55:38 Speaker 4: another conversation, they are creating syops and false flags out

55:42 Speaker 4: of and literally with their knowledge of you know, astrology

55:46 Speaker 4: and the zodiac and how we're born into it, they

55:49 Speaker 4: have created a programming and a target to every planetary

55:52 Speaker 4: aspect and every sort of blueprint that we're born with

55:55 Speaker 4: that literally holds the codes to our soul mission and

55:58 Speaker 4: how we repair this place. They're trying to intercept it

56:01 Speaker 4: and hijacket at a very young so we never stand

56:06 Speaker 4: in our power and they have not succeeded, and they're

56:08 Speaker 4: not succeeding. So does that make sense? So it does?

56:13 Speaker 3: It does?

56:14 Speaker 2: No, No, no, it does. So what do you think

56:20 Speaker 2: because I've always found it odd that we are a species,

56:26 Speaker 2: and even guys like Graham Hancock say this, We are

56:30 Speaker 2: a species with amnesia, right, we don't know our own

56:34 Speaker 2: origin story.

56:37 Speaker 3: We come out of the womb.

56:39 Speaker 2: And we're pretty much useless, helpless, without our mothers, you

56:46 Speaker 2: know where really the only creature like that on the Earth.

56:51 Speaker 2: We don't really fit any specific ecosystem anymore. We shed

56:58 Speaker 2: our we we stood up only to have back problems.

57:01 Speaker 2: We're burned by the very thing that gives us life

57:05 Speaker 2: and gives life to the universe, the Sun. We shed

57:09 Speaker 2: our pelt, I mean, shed our fur to need pelts

57:13 Speaker 2: in the winter. I just I can't help but think.

57:18 Speaker 2: And then I look at Mars right and the asteroid belt,

57:24 Speaker 2: and I can't help but think. I feel like there

57:27 Speaker 2: was another planet here at one point. Yeah, and it's

57:30 Speaker 2: smacked into Mars, and we might have that. Then there's

57:35 Speaker 2: radiological signatures on Mars Zion one nine that are only

57:40 Speaker 2: usually found after a catastrophic nuclear detonation, and the levels

57:46 Speaker 2: are extreme. So I have to wonder, uh, did.

57:49 Speaker 3: We do you do?

57:51 Speaker 4: You know?

57:52 Speaker 2: I mean, do you have any insight on this? On

57:56 Speaker 2: what happened with Mars? Are we from Mars or originally?

58:01 Speaker 2: This is something I've I've been talking about lately.

58:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, we're multi dimensional, right, you know. Some might

58:06 Speaker 4: feel more of a connection to Mars, some to Venus,

58:08 Speaker 4: some to Lyra, some to the Plate's, some to you know,

58:12 Speaker 4: serious and some to maybe all of them, and Dramata

58:16 Speaker 4: are curious. We hold DNA et genetics. We we we

58:23 Speaker 4: hold et genetics. Are we all designed the same way? No,

58:27 Speaker 4: we have our soul journeys, what we're drawn to, what

58:30 Speaker 4: we're attracted to. So when you look at like exploded planets,

58:36 Speaker 4: that's basically a shattering of a planet that we once

58:40 Speaker 4: lived upon. So we hold that trauma, the fragmentation exists

58:45 Speaker 4: in us, and and what we're doing as a humanity

58:48 Speaker 4: is holding pieces and shards of those explosions and looking

58:52 Speaker 4: to like bring back wholeness. Uh So, the asteroids in

58:58 Speaker 4: the asteroid belt are different archetypes, you know, when when

59:01 Speaker 4: we go from cosmic trinity to pantheon to planets to

59:06 Speaker 4: exploded planets, these asteroids have energy and archetypal imprints. Chirron,

59:13 Speaker 4: the Wounded Healer is an asteroid. It's connected to wounds, afflictions, pain,

59:18 Speaker 4: but it's also a healer. It gets on the healing journey.

59:21 Speaker 4: It turns wounds into wisdom and pain into purpose. You've

59:25 Speaker 4: got asteroids like you know, Juno and Lilith, and I

59:30 Speaker 4: mean there's too many to name, you know, but they

59:33 Speaker 4: all hold different stories. You know, Sedna Eiris Eiris is

59:38 Speaker 4: all about conflict and strife and it's a goddess energy.

59:43 Speaker 4: Uh And and what you're seeing in these fragmentations are

59:46 Speaker 4: archetypal energies that have created sort of personality traits that

59:51 Speaker 4: are seeking to be heard in order to bring about healing.

59:57 Speaker 4: So there's always a shadow side of whoa you know,

59:59 Speaker 4: really negative traits or you know, they might be violent,

1:00:02 Speaker 4: they might be aggressive, but in their higher octave, it's

1:00:05 Speaker 4: because they remember they want wholeness again. They want to

1:00:08 Speaker 4: return to the cosmic trinity. They want that chrys Sophia

1:00:10 Speaker 4: blueprint again. Because Tiamot that exploded, that became the five

1:00:13 Speaker 4: D asteroid belt. Tiamat and Apsu were like the Sacred

1:00:17 Speaker 4: Union planets. It was a sopionic planet. Marduk hit it

1:00:23 Speaker 4: and it exploded. Lots of history there. It's and then

1:00:28 Speaker 4: after we dropped down into this lower harmonic universe, Malduc

1:00:30 Speaker 4: exploded and that was, you know, around the time that

1:00:37 Speaker 4: the final Atlantean cataclysms, you know, took place not too

1:00:41 Speaker 4: long after. So we carry ancient trauma connected to exploded planets.

1:00:46 Speaker 4: And when we look at the asteroids and how they

1:00:48 Speaker 4: impact us at our own personal zodiac, because we all

1:00:51 Speaker 4: have different asteroids hitting different places in our charts. So

1:00:54 Speaker 4: when I do charts, I'll add some asteroids. But if

1:00:56 Speaker 4: you were to add all of them, literally, we would

1:00:58 Speaker 4: see our chart completely covered in asteroids, and that would

1:01:03 Speaker 4: be quite like you'd have to really nerd out and

1:01:06 Speaker 4: be like, all right, I'm gonna look at like thousands

1:01:08 Speaker 4: of asteroids and how it relates to your charge. Yeah,

1:01:10 Speaker 4: maybe some other time, but do the like the main ones,

1:01:14 Speaker 4: right are the ones that people ask for? And you

1:01:16 Speaker 4: got ones connected to Medusa, and oh, it's just unbelievable.

1:01:21 Speaker 4: A lot of you know where we see these ancient

1:01:26 Speaker 4: battles and wars and pantheons and more and much more

1:01:29 Speaker 4: more than we can imagine. So as a humanity, we

1:01:33 Speaker 4: all carry affinities, you know, with different things. So if

1:01:36 Speaker 4: you have one of these asteroids on your ascendant or

1:01:39 Speaker 4: conjuncture son, that's going to be a main archetype that

1:01:41 Speaker 4: you are embodying in this lifetime to heal something on

1:01:44 Speaker 4: a much larger level, because Mother Earth is healing through us,

1:01:47 Speaker 4: the cosmic wars, the glastic wars are healing through us,

1:01:51 Speaker 4: and that's why the system is set up the way

1:01:53 Speaker 4: that it is, because it doesn't want us to heal.

1:01:55 Speaker 4: It doesn't want us to return to the cosmic trinity

1:01:57 Speaker 4: because then they can't be in control. So any soul

1:02:01 Speaker 4: that rejects the system figures it out, looks at these

1:02:05 Speaker 4: adversities and these challenges within our own nature and sees

1:02:09 Speaker 4: it as a way to get to the truth and

1:02:12 Speaker 4: the meaning behind why we feel the way that we do.

1:02:14 Speaker 4: Then we're coherent, Then we are conscious, we are aware,

1:02:18 Speaker 4: and we can actually take our struggles and differences and

1:02:21 Speaker 4: conflicts and pain and actually like rebuild something right now,

1:02:30 Speaker 4: More like the dark agenders are feeding on the trauma.

1:02:32 Speaker 4: They create trauma loops so that we're in fight or

1:02:35 Speaker 4: flight and we're constantly traumatized and we're pointing fingers at

1:02:38 Speaker 4: each other, and it's just so incredible, it's so incredible.

1:02:43 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll just stop.

1:02:46 Speaker 2: There, you know, one of the things that I can't help.

1:02:52 Speaker 2: But so you've discussed ideas involving frequency awakening and energetic manipulation.

1:03:02 Speaker 2: Do you believe that modern society has been you know,

1:03:07 Speaker 2: hindered to where our potent, you know, our ancestors, you know,

1:03:11 Speaker 2: given things like the pyramid and the feats that they

1:03:14 Speaker 2: were able to accomplish, do you think that they had

1:03:16 Speaker 2: some sort of all, you know, technology that we have

1:03:20 Speaker 2: since been you know, ripped of in the sense of,

1:03:27 Speaker 2: you know, they talk about how these pyramids were possibly built,

1:03:30 Speaker 2: and one idea that's floated around is, you know, using

1:03:35 Speaker 2: frequency to essentially levitate. Do you think our ancestors were

1:03:40 Speaker 2: you know, more in and I'm talking about you know,

1:03:44 Speaker 2: pre dynastic and you know, maybe even before the the

1:03:48 Speaker 2: younger dryest. Do you think that there was technology on

1:03:51 Speaker 2: this planet at one point.

1:03:53 Speaker 3: That was less like our you know, less like our phone, right,

1:03:58 Speaker 3: less like this, and but but came more from inside.

1:04:03 Speaker 4: Oh? Absolutely, I mean we are the ultimate technology. When

1:04:06 Speaker 4: you look at the Guardian races or Forces eighth Force,

1:04:12 Speaker 4: that's not about UFOs, but UFOs on a higher level

1:04:16 Speaker 4: than you know, UFOs being flown by grace. The consciousness

1:04:19 Speaker 4: of the pilot is connected to the craft. It's a

1:04:24 Speaker 4: part of our energy field. It's a part of our aura.

1:04:27 Speaker 4: You know, when when we talk about Marcaba, you know,

1:04:30 Speaker 4: that's very much about the integration of the massulin and feminine,

1:04:33 Speaker 4: the right and left brain, the electric magnetic, the electrical

1:04:36 Speaker 4: and magnetic and when it achieves you know, integration through

1:04:41 Speaker 4: initiation instead of falling into the hijacking of what society

1:04:48 Speaker 4: wants us to do in the face of initiation is

1:04:50 Speaker 4: fear it, you know, because it's not always comfortable, medicate it,

1:04:53 Speaker 4: ignore it, distracted by it. We don't upgrade, we digress.

1:04:58 Speaker 4: But these you know, initiations are taking us into an

1:05:02 Speaker 4: ability for our oric field and consciousness to make us

1:05:08 Speaker 4: that advanced, to be able to levitate, to be like

1:05:12 Speaker 4: a craft that can come and go from the physical

1:05:14 Speaker 4: realm as we please. So advanced civilizations. You know, we're

1:05:19 Speaker 4: talking like seven root races, Polaris, Hyperborea, talk about Advanced Lameria,

1:05:25 Speaker 4: Atlantis Avalon. I mean that's not a root race, but

1:05:29 Speaker 4: you know, going into the Arians and then you know,

1:05:31 Speaker 4: just on and on, uh, seven root races, five cloister races.

1:05:36 Speaker 4: When we landed in this lower harmonic universe, it was

1:05:38 Speaker 4: about rehabilitation and rebuilding our DNA over the course of

1:05:42 Speaker 4: time because we are vulnerable because of amnesia, because of

1:05:46 Speaker 4: the trauma and the planetary grid network. We dealt with invaders,

1:05:52 Speaker 4: and the invaders can be catalysts and reminders because we

1:05:55 Speaker 4: see the contrast that's not a vibrational match to our

1:05:58 Speaker 4: inner truth and knowingness. But the problem is, generation after generation,

1:06:03 Speaker 4: the genetics and the genetic damage began to change, where

1:06:07 Speaker 4: you would literally be born with an orientation to something

1:06:12 Speaker 4: that completely has forgotten source or the true blueprint, and

1:06:18 Speaker 4: the unconsciousness usually manifests as physical issues, behavioral pattern issues,

1:06:24 Speaker 4: and people don't tend to explore it. That's not part

1:06:28 Speaker 4: of how society is set up because it's not a

1:06:30 Speaker 4: healthy system. It's rigged to keep us from that. So

1:06:35 Speaker 4: we're not exploring like, okay, I've genetically connected to heart disease,

1:06:39 Speaker 4: but we're not looking at the wars and traumas our

1:06:41 Speaker 4: ancestors might have experienced that created a certain amount of

1:06:44 Speaker 4: stress that created, you know, this damage to the heart

1:06:47 Speaker 4: that just becomes like something you inherit, like, oh, you're predisposed.

1:06:51 Speaker 4: Why are you predisposed? You have to understand the root.

1:06:54 Speaker 4: So I'm sorry, I know I'm drifting off from you.

1:06:57 Speaker 2: No, no, no no, But it's been proven that generational trauma

1:07:02 Speaker 2: is is absolutely a thing as we inherit trauma from

1:07:07 Speaker 2: our ancestors were.

1:07:09 Speaker 4: Clear for our ancestors, for ourselves, for the future, for

1:07:12 Speaker 4: future generations. But the bringing back to the original question again.

1:07:16 Speaker 2: So do you think that our ancestors were in touch

1:07:21 Speaker 2: with Yeah, yeah, they're distraction stones and rocks, and the

1:07:26 Speaker 2: pyramid technology was connecting with the star systems and the you.

1:07:29 Speaker 4: Know, the stargates. And I mean, this isn't just a

1:07:33 Speaker 4: planet that it's like we look out into the stars

1:07:36 Speaker 4: and there's something out there. I mean, advanced et groups

1:07:39 Speaker 4: have lived here, they live underground. There are cities underground,

1:07:42 Speaker 4: there's subterranean civilizations, but there's also what do you make

1:07:46 Speaker 4: deep state Illuminati structures and tunnels and cities, and I mean,

1:07:52 Speaker 4: it's just it's just like the diversity and extremes of

1:07:57 Speaker 4: polarity on this planet. It's crazy. And it's one of

1:08:00 Speaker 4: the rants that actually has fallen into this much inversion

1:08:04 Speaker 4: that is actually capable of being corrected. It's it's one

1:08:07 Speaker 4: of the only or few planets that have gotten this

1:08:10 Speaker 4: far away from source and so deeply entrenched into an

1:08:15 Speaker 4: inversion that actually is capable of correcting itself without blowing up,

1:08:19 Speaker 4: without destructing. But you know these other planets, it wasn't

1:08:22 Speaker 4: the humans though, it was the controllers and their own

1:08:27 Speaker 4: battles that you know, cause the destruction and you know

1:08:30 Speaker 4: the explosions. But if a planet is not able to ascend,

1:08:35 Speaker 4: it begins to atrophy like it just it doesn't have

1:08:40 Speaker 4: humans as conduits. It as humans as batteries for uh,

1:08:45 Speaker 4: you know the script writers that rely on our creative

1:08:49 Speaker 4: energy that just come up with the syops and fall

1:08:50 Speaker 4: flags that we fall prey to and consent to, they

1:08:53 Speaker 4: have no creative energy. They rely on us. That's why

1:08:55 Speaker 4: they use children. They use our creative energy and programmings

1:08:58 Speaker 4: to lure us in the minute we realize that we

1:09:02 Speaker 4: are on the ascension path.

1:09:04 Speaker 2: And then there's nothing like they can't they will never

1:09:09 Speaker 2: be able to control someone who's ascended. It's impossible because

1:09:13 Speaker 2: you can see through the bullshit. And you know, I

1:09:17 Speaker 2: don't want to sound like I'm like trying to like,

1:09:20 Speaker 2: you know, be one.

1:09:22 Speaker 3: Like to be super cool. But you know, ever.

1:09:25 Speaker 2: Since i've really you know, I've always been into this topic,

1:09:30 Speaker 2: but ever since I really dove deep and like obviously

1:09:35 Speaker 2: spent you know, I have a studio here in Boston,

1:09:38 Speaker 2: Like you know, I I've spent a lot of money

1:09:44 Speaker 2: searching for answers, and I've had sightings and that's something

1:09:49 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about when before we round out.

1:09:51 Speaker 2: I know we have a limited time. I'd love to

1:09:53 Speaker 2: have you back on. I could talk to you for hours.

1:09:56 Speaker 2: I'd love to bring you to the studio and really

1:09:59 Speaker 2: have a proper discus.

1:10:00 Speaker 4: Oh and I won't and I promise to talk slower

1:10:03 Speaker 4: and I won't be.

1:10:03 Speaker 3: So No, you're great, great.

1:10:06 Speaker 2: I'm usually the one who's over talking, so it's actually nice.

1:10:11 Speaker 2: It's refreshing to have someone else kind of uh take

1:10:14 Speaker 2: the lead. But so with that being said, I wanted

1:10:21 Speaker 2: to talk about you know, you you brought up underground bases.

1:10:28 Speaker 2: Even members of Congress like Tim Burchett are now speaking

1:10:32 Speaker 2: about how these things come that they might not be

1:10:36 Speaker 2: extraterrestrial and the typical sense, but ultra terrestrial. They might

1:10:41 Speaker 2: have lived here or or have been here as long,

1:10:47 Speaker 2: if not longer than us. And you know, is that

1:10:51 Speaker 2: a weird thing to start seeing in the news, and

1:10:53 Speaker 2: you know, from members of Congress or you know, does

1:10:57 Speaker 2: it make you skeptical? What does that make you feel

1:11:00 Speaker 2: like when you start hearing it from the quote unquote mainstream.

1:11:03 Speaker 2: At this point, I'm just.

1:11:05 Speaker 4: So like in my own weird world of knowing and

1:11:10 Speaker 4: understanding what I know with the flexibility of you know,

1:11:14 Speaker 4: adjusting things that I might have thought I know or

1:11:17 Speaker 4: knew because I, you know, really paying attention to listening

1:11:20 Speaker 4: to my body and and and just you know, I

1:11:23 Speaker 4: don't know and my mind in my heart and my soul,

1:11:26 Speaker 4: and uh so I I I don't When I see

1:11:32 Speaker 4: things outside myself, I might feel a resonance. I might

1:11:37 Speaker 4: feel a discord or a red flag or a I

1:11:42 Speaker 4: guess what comes up for me when you say that

1:11:46 Speaker 4: it's okay, it's it's it's it's becoming more of the dialogue.

1:11:49 Speaker 4: But it's always been here, you know, we're talking about

1:11:52 Speaker 4: something that's always been present. It's it's like it's like

1:11:56 Speaker 4: a light in a room that is now being lit up,

1:12:00 Speaker 4: but it was always so to me, It's like, okay,

1:12:05 Speaker 4: now that the lights are on, but maybe it's not

1:12:08 Speaker 4: fully illuminated. How can they maybe change the way we

1:12:12 Speaker 4: perceive it before the lights are fully on. That's why

1:12:15 Speaker 4: they timelines. That's why they try and rewrite history, because

1:12:18 Speaker 4: when the lights come on, can they get away with

1:12:22 Speaker 4: it being different than the original storyline? And and the

1:12:28 Speaker 4: storyline connected to organic ascension that has has has allowed

1:12:36 Speaker 4: that where humans have allowed so much of the healing

1:12:39 Speaker 4: and and remembrance to move through them to be able

1:12:42 Speaker 4: to protect the timeline and protect the trajectory of the

1:12:46 Speaker 4: human race. But yeah, because you know, but this is individual.

1:12:51 Speaker 4: We have to be willing to inside ourselves because we

1:12:53 Speaker 4: can only win the war from within.

1:12:55 Speaker 3: So are you are you saying that to some degree? Now?

1:13:03 Speaker 2: I I know when I say this, people are gonna

1:13:06 Speaker 2: think of like humans and pods. And you know, I've

1:13:10 Speaker 2: had Rizwan Virkin here and he's more of a classical

1:13:14 Speaker 2: like simulation theory guy.

1:13:16 Speaker 3: But it sounds like, so do you.

1:13:18 Speaker 2: I are you saying that we do live in a

1:13:23 Speaker 2: simulation to some degree? It's just not it's not the

1:13:27 Speaker 2: matrix like you see in the movies. But that is

1:13:30 Speaker 2: them just telling you outright. I do think like with

1:13:34 Speaker 2: certain things in pop culture, like they're just putting they're

1:13:38 Speaker 2: they're they're putting it out there in plain sight.

1:13:43 Speaker 4: Like putting one out there like like that you're.

1:13:45 Speaker 2: In a matrix, like they're they're you know, I don't

1:13:50 Speaker 2: even know. Maybe they're actually like obligated to inform us

1:13:55 Speaker 2: of these things, and that's how they do it.

1:13:57 Speaker 4: Well, those that are by them have to consent. There's

1:14:02 Speaker 4: a certain point, and I just watched a video a

1:14:04 Speaker 4: day today where you're at a certain age it's usually

1:14:09 Speaker 4: thirteen years old, where it's the final like will when

1:14:13 Speaker 4: you're a child and you're being abu you know, you're

1:14:16 Speaker 4: not in charge of yourself. You just want attached, You

1:14:19 Speaker 4: just want connection, and you're being tortured and manipulated. But

1:14:24 Speaker 4: there's a certain point where they say that you have

1:14:27 Speaker 4: to be an allegiance and you have the choice. They

1:14:30 Speaker 4: were hoping that they would get you to a point

1:14:33 Speaker 4: where that was guaranteed, and if you weren't going to

1:14:37 Speaker 4: go along with it, they would torture you, erase your memories,

1:14:40 Speaker 4: kill an altar, and make sure that you were going

1:14:42 Speaker 4: to be an allegiance and be in agreement that you

1:14:44 Speaker 4: would have fame, fortune, and be an influencer to society.

1:14:48 Speaker 4: And that would be so tempting that you will go

1:14:53 Speaker 4: with it, because if you say no and you continue

1:14:55 Speaker 4: to stand your ground, that's when they lose their grip

1:14:57 Speaker 4: on you, and that's when you start to spiritually advance.

1:15:00 Speaker 4: So this guy that I've been watching lately who I'm

1:15:03 Speaker 4: gonna be talking to you more survived that and and

1:15:08 Speaker 4: refused and and what an incredible you know being this

1:15:12 Speaker 4: this man is and uh, I just want to make

1:15:16 Speaker 4: sure I get his name correct, Alandra Markman.

1:15:22 Speaker 3: So I know, Alandra.

1:15:25 Speaker 4: Yeah. So they need oh cool, Yeah, so they need

1:15:29 Speaker 4: our consent as humans. They need But what was the question?

1:15:34 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, No, you're okay, You're okay, market.

1:15:40 Speaker 2: So because I it was a very long, like long

1:15:44 Speaker 2: winded question, but oh god, I even forgot it at

1:15:50 Speaker 2: this point.

1:15:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, something about like consent or.

1:15:54 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

1:15:55 Speaker 2: So is it your impression that we are living in

1:15:59 Speaker 2: a simulated universe?

1:16:02 Speaker 1: Uh?

1:16:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a simulated world, I should say to me, it's.

1:16:06 Speaker 4: An overlay on on you know what's real. Saturn has rings.

1:16:12 Speaker 4: Saturn used to be a sun, the Moon a satellite.

1:16:15 Speaker 1: Uh.

1:16:16 Speaker 4: And and how the frequencies from the Moon and the

1:16:19 Speaker 4: rings of Saturn simulate our reality because the lowest octave

1:16:23 Speaker 4: of Saturn is tyranny, control authority, and and systems. The

1:16:28 Speaker 4: black cube of Saturn is the harvesting tank that has

1:16:31 Speaker 4: collected all of our energies to feed this sort of

1:16:33 Speaker 4: moloch or satan or you know that that is in

1:16:38 Speaker 4: charge that that looks like society structures that are encouraging

1:16:44 Speaker 4: us to be successful in life or to have happy families.

1:16:47 Speaker 4: But then it's all targeted within that very system to

1:16:50 Speaker 4: kind of put that carrot and that bait in front

1:16:53 Speaker 4: of us to then, you know, also insert a lot

1:16:56 Speaker 4: of things that destroy it and break it apart. Uh So,

1:17:00 Speaker 4: But the true essence of Saturn and its highest octave

1:17:03 Speaker 4: is self mastery is becoming a rat shower and a teacher.

1:17:08 Speaker 4: It's the law of structure. And that's when the rings

1:17:11 Speaker 4: and the weaponization of it becomes dissolved because we dismantle

1:17:15 Speaker 4: the weaponry from within. So every planet has its inverted

1:17:18 Speaker 4: shadow expression. They use dark technologies to like five G

1:17:24 Speaker 4: and the reversal Grid network on the Earth to collect

1:17:27 Speaker 4: energy that has fallen prey to the programs. But the

1:17:30 Speaker 4: minute you rise above it and override it, it doesn't

1:17:33 Speaker 4: have any impact on you anymore. In fact, you are

1:17:36 Speaker 4: able to transmute it and collapse it. You're able to

1:17:38 Speaker 4: clear it. You're able to And that's the thing we

1:17:41 Speaker 4: don't understand some do we have to remind ourselves, is

1:17:45 Speaker 4: that it doesn't have as much power over us as

1:17:48 Speaker 4: we think, because the weaponry all on its own would

1:17:52 Speaker 4: not be successful. If we were never programmed, if we

1:17:55 Speaker 4: were never influenced by the television, Hollywood, the medical end Street,

1:18:00 Speaker 4: the educational uh, the educations that we've gotten, we would

1:18:04 Speaker 4: have overrit in that technology from the get go. We

1:18:07 Speaker 4: would have no impact on us because we would be

1:18:09 Speaker 4: developing very organically. We'd be guided to be the fullness

1:18:12 Speaker 4: and truth of ourselves. We would understand our emotional energy

1:18:18 Speaker 4: when it falls into a murky place, and we would

1:18:21 Speaker 4: you know, answer to it and and and respected it,

1:18:24 Speaker 4: not medicate it, because it's it's a it's it's our

1:18:28 Speaker 4: higher self and body alerting us to finding a solution

1:18:33 Speaker 4: and and and shifting the energy, you know, in a

1:18:35 Speaker 4: better direction. It's like here, it's not something to fear,

1:18:40 Speaker 4: but it's not something to live in and and make

1:18:42 Speaker 4: decision right.

1:18:43 Speaker 3: And I think I think anxiety is natural, right.

1:18:47 Speaker 4: It's downloads, It's impacts our nervous system. It's downloads trying

1:18:50 Speaker 4: to get in. And when you repress it, when you

1:18:52 Speaker 4: clapse it and it becomes internalized, then you're in a

1:18:56 Speaker 4: trauma loop. In a panic attack, when you're allowed to

1:18:58 Speaker 4: bring that in, you have genie insights, you have epiphanies,

1:19:01 Speaker 4: you can recognize the synchronicities. And the school systems don't

1:19:05 Speaker 4: want that. They don't want rising geniuses. They want to

1:19:07 Speaker 4: tell you you know what to think, and regurgitate that

1:19:10 Speaker 4: and pass a test. So I guess what I'm trying

1:19:13 Speaker 4: to say is we're already tuned into the solution. The

1:19:17 Speaker 4: simulation is the inversion and the weaponization of all that

1:19:22 Speaker 4: comes naturally to us, to make it a problem so

1:19:25 Speaker 4: that we fear it. When we step away from that,

1:19:28 Speaker 4: we actually connect to the true nature of creation, which

1:19:31 Speaker 4: is initiation, which is synchronicity, which is as to make

1:19:34 Speaker 4: a natural law that knows how to correct anything that

1:19:37 Speaker 4: falls into injury and imbalance by nature, it just knows

1:19:40 Speaker 4: that intelligence knows how to correct. And that's what's happening

1:19:44 Speaker 4: on the earth, and they're trying desperately to distract us

1:19:48 Speaker 4: away from that and to fear the pain and the

1:19:52 Speaker 4: issues that come up in us and make it something

1:19:56 Speaker 4: that they can leverage to pit us against each other,

1:19:59 Speaker 4: to keep us sick, and when in actual fact, these

1:20:02 Speaker 4: are organic processes from the cosmos itself to create the

1:20:07 Speaker 4: repair and the transformations that are necessary for us to

1:20:11 Speaker 4: find our wholeness again and to return to the original design,

1:20:15 Speaker 4: which is our divine blueprint, our divine inheritance that's coming

1:20:19 Speaker 4: from our true creator parents, not these foster parents that

1:20:22 Speaker 4: tinkered with our DNA, that have tinkered with everything about life.

1:20:25 Speaker 4: So when we can see the difference, that is when

1:20:28 Speaker 4: we begin to really start enjoying life. It's sort of

1:20:30 Speaker 4: like when you recognize that man, this guy, or this

1:20:33 Speaker 4: girl that you're dating doesn't really love you. They're manipulating

1:20:35 Speaker 4: you their energy vampires. The minute you say I'm going

1:20:38 Speaker 4: to choose me and you break up with them, you're

1:20:40 Speaker 4: now on a trajectory to find true love. So when

1:20:43 Speaker 4: we break up with the system, we're now on a

1:20:45 Speaker 4: trajectory to experience the true love of creation, our true

1:20:48 Speaker 4: connection with source. Recognize that these gods that have been

1:20:52 Speaker 4: put in place, these outer authority figures, they were baiting

1:20:55 Speaker 4: us all along. And it's not that those that were

1:20:58 Speaker 4: doing that all of them are malevolent. Some are absolutely

1:21:03 Speaker 4: under the mind control, some are absolutely been tortured to

1:21:05 Speaker 4: play that role, and some fell for it because it

1:21:08 Speaker 4: was appealing to their good nature. I just want to

1:21:11 Speaker 4: be a good person. I want to, you know, have

1:21:12 Speaker 4: a strong moral compass. I'll go to church. That's a

1:21:14 Speaker 4: beautiful thing. That agenda doesn't, you know, mean that they're

1:21:21 Speaker 4: a bad person. It's just recognizing that this needs to

1:21:24 Speaker 4: be changed. We cannot be in denial about what's going

1:21:27 Speaker 4: on in the Vatican. We cannot be in denial about

1:21:29 Speaker 4: what's going on in the Mormon Church. We cannot be

1:21:31 Speaker 4: in denial about the false stories and the rewritten texts

1:21:35 Speaker 4: that we call ancient texts that the Ananachy altered. You

1:21:39 Speaker 4: know that we're willing to face this infiltration and clean

1:21:42 Speaker 4: it up so that it can express itself in the

1:21:44 Speaker 4: highest form, and then our children will be born healthy

1:21:47 Speaker 4: and not inheritors of this dysfunction and disease sickness. But

1:21:52 Speaker 4: the same thing is the functionsfunction and disease and adversity

1:21:56 Speaker 4: is the call to come home. So let's giving our

1:21:59 Speaker 4: power away for the very thing that created it to

1:22:01 Speaker 4: solve it.

1:22:02 Speaker 2: That's right, do you so you've claimed that you were

1:22:06 Speaker 2: targeted and and well we'll be wrapping it up again.

1:22:12 Speaker 2: I'd love to have you back. You claim that you

1:22:15 Speaker 2: were targeted for participation in some secretive offworld or Mars

1:22:23 Speaker 2: related programs for skeptics. Hearing that for the first time,

1:22:28 Speaker 2: what would you say, convinced you these experiences were real?

1:22:34 Speaker 3: You know, given that you are.

1:22:38 Speaker 2: On the same lineage as President Eisenhower, there is something

1:22:43 Speaker 2: said to be there is something to be said about

1:22:47 Speaker 2: blood lines.

1:22:48 Speaker 4: So right, well, this blood line is not Illuminati. There.

1:22:54 Speaker 4: Swiss German migrated to the United States in the seventeen

1:22:58 Speaker 4: hundreds and were men and I so you're talking like

1:23:03 Speaker 4: very very I don't want to say the word poor,

1:23:05 Speaker 4: because they were rich in other ways. But nobody, you know,

1:23:09 Speaker 4: not born into He wasn't born into some illuminati family.

1:23:12 Speaker 4: It's not like there's no family wealth. He didn't sell out,

1:23:15 Speaker 4: so nobody inherited anything. Most of what he, you know,

1:23:21 Speaker 4: was able to establish, Like the Gettisburg farm is now

1:23:23 Speaker 4: a museum. It's not you know, something that we can

1:23:25 Speaker 4: all be like, oh, we live here, you know, on

1:23:27 Speaker 4: the land. It's like, no, we'll go to the museum

1:23:29 Speaker 4: and be like, oh my god, I slept there when

1:23:31 Speaker 4: I was a little kid. So it's pretty funny. And

1:23:34 Speaker 4: uh yeah, so hard workers and you know, but bloodline, Okay,

1:23:38 Speaker 4: so we're part of you know whatever bloodline that is very,

1:23:41 Speaker 4: very different. And I could explore that, and I have

1:23:44 Speaker 4: my ideas and I've heard you know certain things. But

1:23:48 Speaker 4: so to get into your question, the Mars recruitment, well,

1:23:53 Speaker 4: Eisenhower was brief during his administration, uh that you know,

1:23:57 Speaker 4: a descendant would come in to help continue a just

1:24:04 Speaker 4: exposing dark agendas and kind of taking his speech to

1:24:08 Speaker 4: the next level with with a lot of others and uh.

1:24:12 Speaker 4: And and it's said in a book that this Native

1:24:14 Speaker 4: American woman gave me with some connection with the Taigettons

1:24:19 Speaker 4: that the Guardians had gifted the Eisenhower family. You know,

1:24:23 Speaker 4: a descendant that would you know, do this. And but

1:24:26 Speaker 4: that doesn't make me. I'm not saying that, or I

1:24:28 Speaker 4: didn't interpret it in like, oh I'm special. It's more,

1:24:32 Speaker 4: you know, I was coming in from that place and

1:24:34 Speaker 4: that ability to remember.

1:24:37 Speaker 2: Uh.

1:24:37 Speaker 4: And I was tasked with this mission that exists in everyone,

1:24:41 Speaker 4: you know, to find their authenticity, find their truth, find

1:24:44 Speaker 4: their connection to their higher self and these higher dimensional

1:24:47 Speaker 4: aspects of the self, you know, because there's no hierarchy

1:24:50 Speaker 4: when it comes to benevolent galactic beings. It's more about, oh,

1:24:54 Speaker 4: we can help activate you and help to you know,

1:24:57 Speaker 4: switch on things that are dormant, not to say that

1:24:59 Speaker 4: we don't go through our struggles and lose that along

1:25:02 Speaker 4: the way and fall into like pits and overwhelm. And

1:25:05 Speaker 4: you know, we're having a human experience too, so and

1:25:09 Speaker 4: we can fall into forgetfulness as well. And somebody who's

1:25:11 Speaker 4: just awakening can help her mind us. I mean, it's

1:25:13 Speaker 4: it's not about hierarchy. It's just about you know, agreements,

1:25:16 Speaker 4: and we all have agreements. So anyway, he was briefed,

1:25:20 Speaker 4: you know, working with val Thor, and how Valthor helped

1:25:24 Speaker 4: him to appeal to the Guardians, that rest assured there's

1:25:27 Speaker 4: going to be a descendant that comes in that will

1:25:30 Speaker 4: continue to carry this on. He had already put countermeasures

1:25:32 Speaker 4: in place as well, the White Hats Alliance and Ikes Force,

1:25:37 Speaker 4: but he was told that a migration of souls were

1:25:39 Speaker 4: coming in. There's been souls coming in for thousands and

1:25:42 Speaker 4: thousands of years, that we would all find each other

1:25:44 Speaker 4: and work together. But he, you know, was reassured that

1:25:47 Speaker 4: a family member would come in. And this is not

1:25:49 Speaker 4: to say that my work is more important than any

1:25:51 Speaker 4: other family member, but that I would address some of

1:25:55 Speaker 4: the deeper layers that are very hard to figure out,

1:25:57 Speaker 4: like the Greata Treaty, some of these false narratives. So

1:26:01 Speaker 4: they intercepted that information that a descendant was going to

1:26:04 Speaker 4: be coming in. So they pre targeted me before I

1:26:07 Speaker 4: was even born to be steered onto a timeline that

1:26:10 Speaker 4: would take me to Mars. So they used a partner

1:26:13 Speaker 4: that they located me with in a past life. They

1:26:16 Speaker 4: knew we had a strong sacred union energy bond relationships,

1:26:22 Speaker 4: so they weaponized it by taking him into this whole

1:26:26 Speaker 4: like sort of my lab abduction scenario where he started

1:26:30 Speaker 4: to get artificial telepathy and he was set on a

1:26:34 Speaker 4: mission by this group called the Aviary. You can look

1:26:37 Speaker 4: it up. Characters like John Alexander helped put off that

1:26:41 Speaker 4: all had bird names, which are you know, those that

1:26:46 Speaker 4: are responsible for a lot of my labs and manipulation.

1:26:50 Speaker 4: They pulled him in and he was having abduction experiences.

1:26:55 Speaker 4: And I could tell when I met him, because I

1:26:58 Speaker 4: was being targeted my whole life and I couldn't create

1:27:00 Speaker 4: anything without disruption or like something. I'm like, is this

1:27:05 Speaker 4: bad karma? What am I doing wrong?

1:27:06 Speaker 3: Why?

1:27:07 Speaker 4: And I went to a clairvoyant institute and they helped

1:27:09 Speaker 4: me to see and understand, but they really couldn't help me.

1:27:13 Speaker 4: So I just kind of gave up, like, whatever this

1:27:15 Speaker 4: energy is that is trying to stop me from living

1:27:18 Speaker 4: my life, kind of like take me to it. I'm

1:27:21 Speaker 4: just going to go with where I'm being pulled so

1:27:24 Speaker 4: I could confront it. And I ended up moving back

1:27:27 Speaker 4: to the DC area, living in my mom's basement at

1:27:29 Speaker 4: already birth twins my boys who are now twenty eight

1:27:33 Speaker 4: almost and I was just drawn to go to this event,

1:27:39 Speaker 4: this festival, and that's where I met the guy, and

1:27:42 Speaker 4: I thought I met him in an organic way and

1:27:44 Speaker 4: we immediately had this connection. But he was sent by

1:27:49 Speaker 4: the Aviary because they were tracking me to and monitoring

1:27:53 Speaker 4: my Internet activity to meet me at this festival and

1:27:56 Speaker 4: just to meet me in this normal way. But he

1:27:59 Speaker 4: was struggling with the fact that he had a natural

1:28:00 Speaker 4: attraction with me. But he was also sent to because they, yeah,

1:28:06 Speaker 4: they were using him as bait. They needed somebody that

1:28:09 Speaker 4: I had an authentic relationship with to use his bait,

1:28:12 Speaker 4: So they convinced him he was a hero. You're going

1:28:14 Speaker 4: to go meet you know, this woman that you have

1:28:16 Speaker 4: a connection with, and you're going to take her to Mars,

1:28:18 Speaker 4: and it's too much to explain, Oh my gosh. But

1:28:22 Speaker 4: so there's emails, there's names, there's you know, it's not

1:28:25 Speaker 4: like some like, oh I was taken to Mars because

1:28:27 Speaker 4: I dreamt about it. This was years of my life

1:28:30 Speaker 4: literally targeting like that. I experienced my whole life. And

1:28:33 Speaker 4: it connects with the alternative three scenario that was presented

1:28:37 Speaker 4: in the Eisenhower administration about colonization on Mars, which goes

1:28:41 Speaker 4: back to nineteen twenty nine, and how we put bases

1:28:44 Speaker 4: there and how that also became a possibility for the

1:28:50 Speaker 4: human genome to be protected, you know, to go off

1:28:53 Speaker 4: planet as an option. But why would we want to

1:28:57 Speaker 4: go that route? Why not stay on Earth and call

1:28:59 Speaker 4: out the dark technology and the engineered events that that

1:29:03 Speaker 4: would lead us to needing to evacuate Mother Earth? Just

1:29:05 Speaker 4: didn't make sense. So it's not like I'm trying to

1:29:08 Speaker 4: make them the bad guys. Uh. Most people are convinced

1:29:10 Speaker 4: to do things because they think it's the only option.

1:29:13 Speaker 4: But there were plants and dark players in that Aviary

1:29:17 Speaker 4: group that are disinfo agents that were put there on

1:29:20 Speaker 4: purpose to manipulate the rest of them.

1:29:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've talked to some of them.

1:29:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, And my partner became a member of the Aviary

1:29:27 Speaker 4: and he, you know, was dealing with the with the

1:29:29 Speaker 4: my labs and the If.

1:29:30 Speaker 2: You're saying that John Owl and those guys were part

1:29:37 Speaker 2: of it, that I've definitely spoken to some.

1:29:39 Speaker 3: Of these people. Yeah, I keep them at arm's length.

1:29:43 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I I.

1:29:46 Speaker 3: Know who I'm dealing with. You know, you just you

1:29:50 Speaker 3: gotta yeah. Yeah and distant.

1:29:53 Speaker 4: Yeah. And they're programmed or they're convinced to play that

1:29:57 Speaker 4: particular role, and it's not necessarily a bad role. It's like,

1:30:00 Speaker 4: if we're not in control of ourselves, something else is

1:30:02 Speaker 4: going to want to be in control of us. So

1:30:05 Speaker 4: this is what awakening is all about. If we're not awakened,

1:30:07 Speaker 4: how do you manage humans that are half asleep, that

1:30:10 Speaker 4: don't remember who they truly are, or you know how

1:30:13 Speaker 4: they are being manipulated by forces that want to keep

1:30:16 Speaker 4: them from remembering. So they're operating from that standpoint. I

1:30:20 Speaker 4: don't consider them. I don't know them well enough. He

1:30:24 Speaker 4: knew them better than me. I was being targeted through

1:30:27 Speaker 4: the love bait where he was used as bait to

1:30:32 Speaker 4: find me to act like we met on an organic

1:30:35 Speaker 4: sort of love level, and then you know, we started dating,

1:30:39 Speaker 4: and I had moved, you know, to live with my mother,

1:30:41 Speaker 4: and he was going to these secret meetings and it

1:30:43 Speaker 4: was all about leaving the planet, going to Mars, and

1:30:47 Speaker 4: like we were lucky, like like we are being protected.

1:30:51 Speaker 4: And so it was very hard for me to become

1:30:54 Speaker 4: public because I didn't want to ruin anything. But I

1:30:55 Speaker 4: was meditating and praying, like, if this is meant to be,

1:30:59 Speaker 4: set this up for me, so it's not something I

1:31:02 Speaker 4: decide to do. And then weird synchronicities happened. Alfred Lambermont

1:31:05 Speaker 4: Weber got an email that wasn't even supposed to be

1:31:08 Speaker 4: sent to him that I was in an email exchange

1:31:11 Speaker 4: with a friend just trying to get over this Mars

1:31:13 Speaker 4: recruitment and it just ended up in his lap. And

1:31:17 Speaker 4: then he gave me the first interview, and everything was

1:31:19 Speaker 4: screaming to me, you have to expose this, and I

1:31:22 Speaker 4: knew that one day I probably would, but I wasn't

1:31:25 Speaker 4: seeking a public position. I'm not, like you can tell,

1:31:28 Speaker 4: I'm not a good maybe on camera kind of person,

1:31:32 Speaker 4: but I knew, thanks, but I knew out of necessity

1:31:36 Speaker 4: that we have to understand the use of these weapons

1:31:41 Speaker 4: to simulate this reality. So going back to simulation, that

1:31:44 Speaker 4: are engineering events and artificial timelines to take humans down

1:31:47 Speaker 4: a trajectory that's going to further enslave us, where the

1:31:49 Speaker 4: elites go underground or go off planet to Mars and

1:31:52 Speaker 4: take whoever they want to use there for whatever reason.

1:31:58 Speaker 4: Breeding Perhaps I was younger then, I already had my twins.

1:32:02 Speaker 4: I was like, am I going to take them to

1:32:03 Speaker 4: the face on Mars again? Like I'm not going to

1:32:05 Speaker 4: live on Mars with my children. I'm sorry, And I knew,

1:32:08 Speaker 4: you know from childhood that I was here for mother Earth,

1:32:12 Speaker 4: the Sofionic mission, you know, the Guardians and Mother Earth.

1:32:15 Speaker 4: It was always that for me. So they put a

1:32:18 Speaker 4: lot of plants in my place and targeted me a lot,

1:32:20 Speaker 4: so I'd lose my self worth and think that I

1:32:22 Speaker 4: was just crazy and that I was just stupid because

1:32:26 Speaker 4: I skipped school so much, and to just they used

1:32:31 Speaker 4: all sorts of tactics I learned about in order to

1:32:33 Speaker 4: really break me down so that I would be like, oh, yeah,

1:32:36 Speaker 4: let's go to Mars. And you know, the love of

1:32:38 Speaker 4: my life, You know that I remember from a past life.

1:32:41 Speaker 4: You know, we're just going to go and like be

1:32:42 Speaker 4: saved from the wreckage of what humanity is going to become, right,

1:32:46 Speaker 4: not even close. And actual fact, it unearthed my mission

1:32:50 Speaker 4: even more because I could see the contrast so much.

1:32:53 Speaker 4: Even though I didn't know everything about the aviary or

1:32:56 Speaker 4: how dark it was, my intuition guided me. I had

1:32:59 Speaker 4: dreams and I researched and found things that they literally

1:33:04 Speaker 4: removed that you couldn't find. And ten years later somebody

1:33:09 Speaker 4: created a website about them and exposed them, but they

1:33:13 Speaker 4: had wiped all a bit. I mean, it was the

1:33:16 Speaker 4: most unbelievable thing. And I tried to write about it

1:33:18 Speaker 4: in my book, but my book got hijacked and I

1:33:20 Speaker 4: had to rewrite it. I mean, it's just it was unbelievable.

1:33:24 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like, I'm in the most messed up

1:33:27 Speaker 4: like movie, Like you know, they all bird names. I'm like,

1:33:30 Speaker 4: this is like Batman gone bad, Like this is like

1:33:33 Speaker 4: what is this? There was like penguin, there was owl there.

1:33:37 Speaker 4: It was so weird.

1:33:39 Speaker 2: That's good comparison, though, That's such a good comparison because

1:33:44 Speaker 2: you're right, the penguin, you got the Court of Owls. Yeah,

1:33:49 Speaker 2: that's that's hilarious, like.

1:33:51 Speaker 4: Like they all had bird names, code names, and their

1:33:53 Speaker 4: UFO research group they had.

1:33:55 Speaker 3: They were double dipping.

1:33:58 Speaker 2: So they're playing the disclosure angle in order to leverage relationship.

1:34:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, say it again.

1:34:06 Speaker 2: So they're there because I've long had suspect suspicions of

1:34:12 Speaker 2: specifically guys like how put Off, who are seemingly they're

1:34:17 Speaker 2: double dipping. Right, they'll they'll, they'll appear wherever the money

1:34:22 Speaker 2: is right, wherever there's a program a big low to

1:34:27 Speaker 2: angel fund right, and then TTSA they show up there

1:34:35 Speaker 2: anytime there's money to be you know, to be had

1:34:38 Speaker 2: on some of these pros. And then then but they're

1:34:41 Speaker 2: also the same guys that are doing interviews on age

1:34:44 Speaker 2: of disclosure and really shaping modern UFO disclosure, the narrative

1:34:52 Speaker 2: at least that they're trying to push this national security

1:34:56 Speaker 2: angle and how you know, we we need to live

1:34:59 Speaker 2: in co constant fear of this you know, alien overlord,

1:35:04 Speaker 2: that that is going to come.

1:35:06 Speaker 3: But you know, it's it's it's there. They're double dipping.

1:35:10 Speaker 2: It looks like so they're they've got one foot in

1:35:13 Speaker 2: the black programs and then one foot in the disclosure community.

1:35:17 Speaker 2: And they're pretending like, you know, one foot, you know,

1:35:20 Speaker 2: one hand doesn't feed.

1:35:21 Speaker 4: The other exactly totally. And they did not expect me

1:35:26 Speaker 4: to be so adamant about not going along with it,

1:35:29 Speaker 4: and they really thought they had me, and they weren't

1:35:31 Speaker 4: really prepared for it.

1:35:32 Speaker 2: And because you're such an easy cell on the circuit,

1:35:35 Speaker 2: what's that. You're an easy sell on the UFO lecture circuit, right,

1:35:40 Speaker 2: You're an easy sell on podcasts because you're the great

1:35:43 Speaker 2: granddaughter of Eisenhower. The military industrial complex, like, you're almost

1:35:48 Speaker 2: ingrained in UFO lore to a degree.

1:35:50 Speaker 3: So your name carries your bloodline carries that weight with it.

1:35:55 Speaker 2: And of course they want to capture someone like you.

1:35:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, totally and and that that and that's

1:36:01 Speaker 4: you know, that's like with a lot of individuals coming in,

1:36:04 Speaker 4: when they see what you're here to do, they will

1:36:07 Speaker 4: do everything they can to capture it, to own it,

1:36:09 Speaker 4: to destroy it, to eradicate it. But they don't want

1:36:13 Speaker 4: to eradicate it. They want to use it, or they

1:36:16 Speaker 4: know what's at stake if they, you know, do take

1:36:18 Speaker 4: you out. They want you to take yourself out. They

1:36:20 Speaker 4: want to set up so many engineered scenarios to where

1:36:23 Speaker 4: you break down and you lose it, you go crazy,

1:36:27 Speaker 4: you give up, you blame yourself. And this is the

1:36:29 Speaker 4: thing that somebody helped me downe all these events, everything relationships,

1:36:34 Speaker 4: targeting relationships, putting plants in your your path to really

1:36:38 Speaker 4: trip you up to you know, really and then they'll

1:36:41 Speaker 4: target you within your own families and and there's many

1:36:44 Speaker 4: tactics in ways. You know, there's no Illuminati SR or

1:36:47 Speaker 4: mind control that ever happened. And growing up, this was

1:36:51 Speaker 4: all like from outside that was literally trying to derail me.

1:36:56 Speaker 4: And and I was derailed again and again and again,

1:36:58 Speaker 4: and I just pulled myself back. I'm you know, because

1:37:00 Speaker 4: I'm a sensitive soul, and sometimes I'm like, you know,

1:37:04 Speaker 4: the enormity of this mission and what they're trying to

1:37:06 Speaker 4: do just sounds so you know, you can't help it,

1:37:09 Speaker 4: be like are you sure, Laura, Like you know, but

1:37:12 Speaker 4: but you know that when you trust it, that's what

1:37:14 Speaker 4: brings you back to life. Anytime I doubted it, or

1:37:17 Speaker 4: anytime like I really let it get to me, or

1:37:19 Speaker 4: I really blame myself or thought you know, it was me,

1:37:22 Speaker 4: or it wasn't until it really presented itself to me

1:37:27 Speaker 4: that I began to heal because I was like, yes,

1:37:31 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, it's it's just I still

1:37:34 Speaker 4: have a lot of healing to do.

1:37:36 Speaker 2: I think, I honestly, I truly think that, you know,

1:37:40 Speaker 2: and I'm sure that people have tried to call you

1:37:43 Speaker 2: crazy or you know, because you probably wouldn't play the

1:37:48 Speaker 2: disclosure narrative game, of course, and then they call you

1:37:51 Speaker 2: kooki and they blacklist you and oh.

1:37:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well they Dan Cooper, the one that shared

1:37:58 Speaker 4: about a lot of the stuff that I've brought up

1:38:01 Speaker 4: about nineteen fifty two and Truman administration surrendering us to

1:38:05 Speaker 4: the Yeah, yeah, we talk all the time. We're gonna

1:38:09 Speaker 4: do yeah, yeah, yeah, it'd be great. We're really good together.

1:38:14 Speaker 4: Or you could have him alone.

1:38:15 Speaker 3: It's just I would love to do that. Yeah, yeah,

1:38:17 Speaker 3: I'll bring both of you here. Yeah.

1:38:19 Speaker 4: And and from there, you know, I'm sure he'd be

1:38:22 Speaker 4: open to, you know, continuing a conversation. I don't have

1:38:24 Speaker 4: to be there, of course, But where was I going.

1:38:29 Speaker 3: Dan, sharing all this stuff with you?

1:38:31 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but before that.

1:38:35 Speaker 3: Oh, keeping you in control, you know.

1:38:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, just engineering you know, events. He said, they spend

1:38:45 Speaker 4: billions of dollars, trillions, he said millions to billions and

1:38:50 Speaker 4: one time he said trillions. I'm like, there's no way.

1:38:52 Speaker 4: He said, they spend so much money to put the

1:38:55 Speaker 4: blame on Ike about signing treaties and to uh disparage

1:38:59 Speaker 4: him and make him look like he was the reason

1:39:03 Speaker 4: also to discredit use and nobody takes you seriously. And

1:39:05 Speaker 4: he said, they spend so much money on trolls, so

1:39:08 Speaker 4: much on the attacks to many of us, it's not

1:39:11 Speaker 4: you know, uh, there's so many of us that contend

1:39:14 Speaker 4: with this. You know, I'm just one part of it.

1:39:16 Speaker 4: This is a unified mission. You know, we you are

1:39:19 Speaker 4: doing incredible right. We're together talking because this is what

1:39:23 Speaker 4: we do. We're this is the work we're here to do.

1:39:26 Speaker 4: We all have our different functions and positions that we've

1:39:28 Speaker 4: been placed in and ways to reach the public, uh,

1:39:31 Speaker 4: to to get to the bottom of this. And he

1:39:35 Speaker 4: just talked about how much they spend, how much they spend,

1:39:38 Speaker 4: how many people they pay. So a lot of these

1:39:41 Speaker 4: characters have been lured by the money, like or you know,

1:39:45 Speaker 4: traumatized views and mind controlled into you know, compliancy or you.

1:39:52 Speaker 2: Know how easy it is to get someone to give

1:39:55 Speaker 2: up information when you by them. So when you have

1:40:01 Speaker 2: a black limousine, pick someone up at their house, and

1:40:05 Speaker 2: then you fly them first class to whatever city and

1:40:09 Speaker 2: you bring them out to dinner in another black limousine,

1:40:12 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be black.

1:40:13 Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, you know how many

1:40:16 Speaker 3: people just spill because they so weird.

1:40:20 Speaker 4: It's crazy, you know, I mean, but none of that

1:40:24 Speaker 4: ever appealed to me. Riches and fame, like I just

1:40:27 Speaker 4: it's it's for people, person, I guess I don't know, Like, well.

1:40:32 Speaker 2: It's because you've begun that ascension process and materialists stop.

1:40:36 Speaker 2: Materialism has stopped. It's for them, it's everything for you.

1:40:44 Speaker 2: It's but a consequence of the world that we live in,

1:40:48 Speaker 2: right And you you know, of course you have a computer,

1:40:51 Speaker 2: you have a thing. You know, these things are useful,

1:40:53 Speaker 2: but they are a circumstance of the reality we live in.

1:40:57 Speaker 2: You know, you wouldn't be on it if it wasn't,

1:41:00 Speaker 2: you know, the only way to do this podcast and

1:41:02 Speaker 2: connect with people like it's it's a necessary evil to

1:41:06 Speaker 2: some degree.

1:41:06 Speaker 3: But what I fear is things like you.

1:41:10 Speaker 2: Know, before the phone people, I mean, they they barely

1:41:18 Speaker 2: let you use a fucking calculator in school when I

1:41:21 Speaker 2: was there, Right, there're a math test now, and then

1:41:27 Speaker 2: you know how many people's phone numbers I would have

1:41:30 Speaker 2: memorized and how people got around direction wise.

1:41:33 Speaker 3: Now no one can remember a phone.

1:41:36 Speaker 2: Number, No one knows any no one retains any information

1:41:40 Speaker 2: because you have you have the phone in your hand,

1:41:42 Speaker 2: and it's getting worse with AI. You barely have to

1:41:45 Speaker 2: remember anything. And it's just it's the.

1:41:49 Speaker 4: Way thesis papers and you don't even need a university.

1:41:52 Speaker 2: I mean, do you know how many people on YouTube?

1:41:54 Speaker 2: I I click onto a video because it looks interesting,

1:41:58 Speaker 2: and everything from the thumbnail to the title, to the

1:42:03 Speaker 2: script to the basic bitch visual effects that are fifteen

1:42:08 Speaker 2: seconds long, because that's you know, the limit of AI video.

1:42:12 Speaker 2: And it's just that repeated over again. It's just AI slop.

1:42:16 Speaker 2: People have literally given up, they've given up for.

1:42:21 Speaker 3: And it's creating a hive mind.

1:42:24 Speaker 2: It's very and I probably sound ludicrously crazy right now,

1:42:28 Speaker 2: but look around, guys, the world is not the same.

1:42:34 Speaker 3: It scares me.

1:42:35 Speaker 2: Laura, have you ever seen a UFO or non human

1:42:40 Speaker 2: intelligence with your own eyes?

1:42:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've seen things. I mean, there's a

1:42:45 Speaker 4: lot of reverse engineercraft. I'm not one that goes up

1:42:49 Speaker 4: in ships and can tell the stories of Oh, I

1:42:52 Speaker 4: just got taken up into a ship, and I just

1:42:55 Speaker 4: I have had some experiences, and some aren't even that

1:42:58 Speaker 4: long ago where I could tell it. Even my husband

1:43:01 Speaker 4: and I were sitting in the hot tub, were like,

1:43:02 Speaker 4: there's like this massive ship and I was going through

1:43:04 Speaker 4: these upgrades, like I really felt like I was being healed,

1:43:07 Speaker 4: and and I was having all these like visions and

1:43:10 Speaker 4: I'm like, was it the lotus tree or excuse me,

1:43:13 Speaker 4: the lotus flower teeth that I've been drinking lately. Because

1:43:16 Speaker 4: it's like I was seeing things that I couldn't even

1:43:20 Speaker 4: freaking believe. And so I'm sitting there trying to record it,

1:43:22 Speaker 4: and people were probably like, are you sure you're one

1:43:24 Speaker 4: on mushrooms or some kind of drunk and and and

1:43:27 Speaker 4: you know, I've had interesting experiences on those things, but

1:43:30 Speaker 4: me too. I'm sitting here recording, right, and I wake up.

1:43:33 Speaker 4: I'm like, I can't wait to show people, right, And

1:43:36 Speaker 4: I'm like so excited, you know, to play it back,

1:43:38 Speaker 4: because I'm seeing unbelievable stuff. And there's like higher beings

1:43:41 Speaker 4: and like higher intel and they're all healing me and

1:43:45 Speaker 4: and I'm like so excited to play. I'm like, hey, honey,

1:43:47 Speaker 4: check it out. And I play it and it's just black.

1:43:49 Speaker 4: It's just like nothing. I'm like, are you serious? It

1:43:52 Speaker 4: was just black and there was like this little like

1:43:54 Speaker 4: you could just see and and I'm like, okay, I

1:43:57 Speaker 4: know that happened. I mean it was the most real

1:43:59 Speaker 4: thing I and I I felt myself being adjusted. I

1:44:01 Speaker 4: felt it in my nervousness and I felt it all

1:44:02 Speaker 4: over my body. And yeah, and I wish they would

1:44:06 Speaker 4: come back because I'm feeling a little bit like wow.

1:44:09 Speaker 4: But when I was younger, I was having dreams and

1:44:11 Speaker 4: I was being prepared. I was being prepared. I was

1:44:13 Speaker 4: having dreams, and I was seeing these luminous beings and

1:44:15 Speaker 4: they had me look through this viewfinder at timelines and

1:44:18 Speaker 4: they were showing me the difference between the engineered one

1:44:20 Speaker 4: and the organic one, and they said, the future is

1:44:23 Speaker 4: going to be so beautiful, you know, if you just

1:44:25 Speaker 4: trust yourself and believe in yourself, do not let them

1:44:28 Speaker 4: take you into you know whatever. And that was, you know,

1:44:32 Speaker 4: pretty much the message. Balthor. I've always felt a strong

1:44:35 Speaker 4: connection with and the Guardians and Lisa Rene, who is

1:44:40 Speaker 4: you know, a major guardian force on the planet. But

1:44:43 Speaker 4: it's mostly been very earth bound for me, going into underworlds,

1:44:46 Speaker 4: like doing a lot of grid work, but not just

1:44:48 Speaker 4: sitting there and meditating on you know, a grid site,

1:44:50 Speaker 4: but literally going into the trenches of major, major, deep,

1:44:54 Speaker 4: deep underworlds, because you know, it's connected to the stargates,

1:44:59 Speaker 4: it's connected to to the mothers of darkness and the

1:45:01 Speaker 4: reversal energies like and it's in my book, and I

1:45:05 Speaker 4: tried to make sense out of it. And I wasn't

1:45:07 Speaker 4: sitting there when I was going through it, like, oh,

1:45:09 Speaker 4: I'm just going through the underworld to you know, correct

1:45:11 Speaker 4: these inversions. But I knew that that was what I

1:45:14 Speaker 4: was doing, and I journaled it and I wrote about it,

1:45:17 Speaker 4: and I understood it in a way that I was

1:45:20 Speaker 4: able to, you know, express in a very archetypal sort

1:45:23 Speaker 4: of mythological way, and that we're all doing it, whether

1:45:26 Speaker 4: we realize it or not. We are creating corrections all

1:45:30 Speaker 4: the time, every time we collapse the programming, every time

1:45:33 Speaker 4: we walk through inversion in order to release its grip

1:45:37 Speaker 4: on us and the way it makes us feel, and

1:45:40 Speaker 4: we bring it back into sovereignty and authenticity. We're doing

1:45:43 Speaker 4: way more than we can imagine. We're not just here

1:45:46 Speaker 4: just like like we're all very multi dimensional. So I knew,

1:45:50 Speaker 4: like I'm doing it, but everybody's doing it. Sometimes we

1:45:53 Speaker 4: just don't realize what we're doing. So it became my

1:45:56 Speaker 4: mission to be coherent and aware of it enough to

1:45:59 Speaker 4: remind people, like when you're going through that crisis, when

1:46:02 Speaker 4: you're going through that dark knight of the soul, don't

1:46:05 Speaker 4: you know forget the healing work that it's bringing to

1:46:08 Speaker 4: the planet. We very often fall into self judgment or

1:46:12 Speaker 4: you know, I'm failing or this, and that we don't

1:46:14 Speaker 4: realize like how much we're dismantling when something doesn't work

1:46:17 Speaker 4: out the way we hoped, or we have to let

1:46:20 Speaker 4: go of an attachment, or we have to lose something

1:46:23 Speaker 4: to really fall back on ourselves and find that internal light,

1:46:26 Speaker 4: to find that a greater depth within ourselves. I don't know,

1:46:33 Speaker 4: it's it's too complicated to I don't know. It's really

1:46:36 Speaker 4: a lot of what my book is about, which is

1:46:39 Speaker 4: not has no bit of AI that helped me write it.

1:46:45 Speaker 4: So I'll just kind of stop there. But yeah, Underworld

1:46:48 Speaker 4: Journeys I mean the venus transits, you know.

1:46:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well we'll wrap up. I know you've got

1:46:57 Speaker 2: a limited time, So one else question before I would

1:47:02 Speaker 2: luck again, I told you I'd love to have you

1:47:04 Speaker 2: back on. I really like these kind of discussions where

1:47:07 Speaker 2: I kind of just get to to riff with somebody who's.

1:47:11 Speaker 4: Aros audience is like she talks. I mean, they can

1:47:14 Speaker 4: say whatever.

1:47:15 Speaker 3: I like. I said, I feel like I'm grown past

1:47:18 Speaker 3: the caring.

1:47:20 Speaker 4: I don't care. I just uh, I know sometimes I

1:47:24 Speaker 4: gotta slow it down. And uh, but yeah, what's your

1:47:28 Speaker 4: last question?

1:47:30 Speaker 2: If if your great grandfather was here today, what and

1:47:37 Speaker 2: he was able to give a give a speech? Uh,

1:47:41 Speaker 2: what do you think some of his main topics would

1:47:44 Speaker 2: be preaching, you know again, to this to this world

1:47:49 Speaker 2: that may be unrecognizable.

1:47:52 Speaker 3: And I feel like, because he tried to divert it

1:47:55 Speaker 3: and at.

1:47:55 Speaker 2: Least warn us, but maybe we didn't heed the war,

1:48:01 Speaker 2: I think he.

1:48:01 Speaker 4: Would emphasize a lot more the knowledgeable and aware citizenry,

1:48:08 Speaker 4: beware of this military industrial complex, but be aware of

1:48:12 Speaker 4: your importance. It's not just being aware of the deep state,

1:48:15 Speaker 4: the dark agendas, the infrastructure, the you know, the the

1:48:19 Speaker 4: greater powers and this is why him and I have

1:48:21 Speaker 4: an agreement, because this is what I'm coming in to

1:48:23 Speaker 4: remind people of. And he's been with me since I

1:48:25 Speaker 4: was a child. He appeared to me when I was

1:48:27 Speaker 4: a kid, and I'm like okay, like and I'm like

1:48:29 Speaker 4: figuring out, like, oh my god, I'm like was born

1:48:31 Speaker 4: into this family and I'm.

1:48:32 Speaker 3: Seeing like you as like a like oh yeah, he's.

1:48:36 Speaker 4: Been working with me. And every time I would work

1:48:38 Speaker 4: with like like a clairvoyant or I went to this

1:48:41 Speaker 4: clairvoyant institute by accident, well there's no accidents, but synchronistically

1:48:46 Speaker 4: I stumbled upon it. When I was in California. I

1:48:47 Speaker 4: wanted to go to an herbal school. The minute I

1:48:50 Speaker 4: walked in the door, they didn't know me my name.

1:48:52 Speaker 4: I wasn't even carrying the name at the time. They said,

1:48:55 Speaker 4: Eisenhower just walked in the room. And I went up

1:48:57 Speaker 4: to the room. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm related to

1:49:00 Speaker 4: He goes, oh yeah, he walked in right right behind you,

1:49:03 Speaker 4: right whoa ageah. And I just did a conference and

1:49:05 Speaker 4: a lot of the psychics that were at the conference

1:49:07 Speaker 4: where like he was standing right behind you and they

1:49:09 Speaker 4: were in tears. So so I know what he would say,

1:49:13 Speaker 4: because it's a lot of what I'm saying because he

1:49:15 Speaker 4: helps me, and it's coming from both of us. It's

1:49:18 Speaker 4: not like I'm channeling him. It's just we both are

1:49:21 Speaker 4: in alignment with this message. Is that it's about us.

1:49:24 Speaker 4: We're it's about remembering who we are. That the most

1:49:28 Speaker 4: important thing is that we don't get hijacked. The warning

1:49:30 Speaker 4: about the military industrial complex and so we don't lose

1:49:34 Speaker 4: ourselves to it and how it disguises itself through the

1:49:39 Speaker 4: programmings in these different institutions that we participate in. Uh,

1:49:46 Speaker 4: but we we don't see it as a programming. It

1:49:48 Speaker 4: disguises itself as being helpful, being supportive. If we want

1:49:53 Speaker 4: to become a participant in the field, or we become

1:49:58 Speaker 4: a patient or a student, or we become the teacher

1:50:01 Speaker 4: or the doctor. Like we have to remember ourselves. We

1:50:05 Speaker 4: have to challenge it, we have to upgrade it, we

1:50:07 Speaker 4: have to take it to the next level. The biggest

1:50:11 Speaker 4: loss in in our experiences when children are raised to

1:50:15 Speaker 4: forget who they are, to think that being silenced is

1:50:22 Speaker 4: because they're wrong, or or what they saw isn't really real.

1:50:28 Speaker 4: It's in their mass valid is smarter that they need

1:50:31 Speaker 4: to learn from that instructor or outter authority. We need

1:50:33 Speaker 4: to guide our children to realize that you're the leaders

1:50:37 Speaker 4: of the future. You came in with very unique knowledge

1:50:40 Speaker 4: and wisdom and experience that we need to understand in

1:50:43 Speaker 4: order to assist you in being the best version of yourself,

1:50:46 Speaker 4: instead of being indoctrinated and being controlled and having your

1:50:49 Speaker 4: gifts and abilities used to steer a narrative that you

1:50:54 Speaker 4: are convinced is a good idea. So the most important

1:50:57 Speaker 4: thing that we remember is that every single one of

1:50:59 Speaker 4: us counts as not about a hierarchical governmental system. It's

1:51:02 Speaker 4: about each of us, you know, realizing our worth and value,

1:51:07 Speaker 4: and that it's not up to just one person. It's

1:51:09 Speaker 4: not up to a chosen race. We all are chosen,

1:51:12 Speaker 4: and the true chosen ones are are all of us.

1:51:18 Speaker 4: But we have to embody the love and wisdom to

1:51:22 Speaker 4: to to like be that force in the world. It's

1:51:27 Speaker 4: it's not that anybody has chosen, it's all of us

1:51:30 Speaker 4: are chosen. To remember, and when we do and we

1:51:33 Speaker 4: embody it, then we come together and recognize that we

1:51:36 Speaker 4: are a glactic and earthly family and we begin to

1:51:38 Speaker 4: open up to the larger landscape of it all. What's

1:51:42 Speaker 4: not chosen as hatred division, you know. So so all

1:51:47 Speaker 4: these race wars and root races being put against each other,

1:51:49 Speaker 4: so that we're all in this battle of who's superior,

1:51:52 Speaker 4: who should be in charge, who's the biggest victim. Also,

1:51:54 Speaker 4: we have to remember every single one of us counts,

1:51:57 Speaker 4: and the true chosen one is just the embodiment of

1:51:59 Speaker 4: love and wisdom, and every single person has access to it.

1:52:02 Speaker 4: And and it's not love and wisdom, it's it's just

1:52:05 Speaker 4: love and wisdom. It's your authenticity, your own unique intelligence.

1:52:09 Speaker 4: There are many different forms of intelligence, and the society

1:52:12 Speaker 4: is only targeted particular types. So anyway, I'm not saying

1:52:17 Speaker 4: it like to the degree that he would, he'd say

1:52:19 Speaker 4: it much better than me, but that it's not outside

1:52:22 Speaker 4: of you, it's not some leader, it's not some chosen group,

1:52:24 Speaker 4: it's not you know, anything like that.

1:52:28 Speaker 3: You don't have to wait for it, you have to

1:52:29 Speaker 3: go grab.

1:52:30 Speaker 4: It, exactly, And and that you're just as important and

1:52:36 Speaker 4: as divine and as special and as uh like much

1:52:40 Speaker 4: a part of this as any but as anything that

1:52:43 Speaker 4: you you you you you might have given your power

1:52:46 Speaker 4: away to you know, let let yourself be reminded that

1:52:51 Speaker 4: it might help you to a certain degree, but yeah,

1:52:55 Speaker 4: don't be so dependent on it that you forget yourself.

1:52:58 Speaker 4: Maybe it'll help you to a certain degre, but if

1:53:00 Speaker 4: it doesn't help you to remember who you are, then

1:53:04 Speaker 4: beyond that quest for self remembrance and just know that

1:53:08 Speaker 4: everything in our life that we experience is designed to

1:53:11 Speaker 4: bring us to that, and anything that tries to define

1:53:16 Speaker 4: it for you, definitely question.

1:53:19 Speaker 2: Raise that red flag should be raising if someone's telling

1:53:23 Speaker 2: you I got the whole picture.

1:53:24 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like the doctor's saying, you have this disease,

1:53:27 Speaker 4: this is how long you're going to live, and this

1:53:28 Speaker 4: is what it's going to look like. You need to

1:53:29 Speaker 4: take this drug. You know, if it doesn't feel right,

1:53:32 Speaker 4: trust yourself. You are built with the instincts, the intuition,

1:53:35 Speaker 4: and the higher self connection to know how to manage

1:53:39 Speaker 4: every single thing that comes along your path. But because

1:53:43 Speaker 4: it's so difficult to take the time to really feel

1:53:45 Speaker 4: into it, make sure to work with people that support

1:53:48 Speaker 4: that and nurture it and want to help empower it.

1:53:52 Speaker 4: And anybody that is pulling you further away from yourself,

1:53:56 Speaker 4: you know, just walk the other way. There are plenty

1:53:59 Speaker 4: that will go you to that remembrance or you will

1:54:04 Speaker 4: find it yourself, no matter what, Every single one of

1:54:08 Speaker 4: us counts, and that's the beauty of this creation is

1:54:10 Speaker 4: that we're born at different times of the planetary alignments

1:54:14 Speaker 4: healing its own planetary system. We all carry pieces of

1:54:18 Speaker 4: this system repairing itself. The hijacking is so we miss

1:54:23 Speaker 4: the opportunity and we handed to them, and when we

1:54:26 Speaker 4: handed to them, they become that consistent hierarchy that draws

1:54:31 Speaker 4: us further and further into transhumanism, into enslavement and into

1:54:35 Speaker 4: losing our soul matrix to the point where we become

1:54:37 Speaker 4: grays or ebs and we're not even human anymore. So

1:54:41 Speaker 4: remember that every challenge in life, every disease, is an

1:54:45 Speaker 4: opportunity to get closer to home. It'll guide you back.

1:54:49 Speaker 4: That body is simply saying that something's wrong with that program,

1:54:52 Speaker 4: instead of handing it over to somebody to get you

1:54:55 Speaker 4: further entrenched in losing your soul and your remembrance. So

1:55:01 Speaker 4: the very thing that is weaponizing our awakening can also

1:55:06 Speaker 4: remind us.

1:55:08 Speaker 2: What are these what do people say that these these

1:55:13 Speaker 2: draco or you know, these thing what a lot of

1:55:18 Speaker 2: people I think say reptilian as well, is are are

1:55:23 Speaker 2: those similar?

1:55:24 Speaker 3: Like?

1:55:24 Speaker 2: What are these things uh look like? Or what do

1:55:28 Speaker 2: people describe them as?

1:55:29 Speaker 4: Long Draco's are you know a specific type of reptilian?

1:55:32 Speaker 4: And you know you got your white Draco, You've got

1:55:34 Speaker 4: your you know Draco's with the snake looking eyes and

1:55:37 Speaker 4: shape shifting humans that some might say, oh that that

1:55:40 Speaker 4: can't be real. David Ike has talked about it, But

1:55:43 Speaker 4: do survivors really see that? Not every survivor has and

1:55:46 Speaker 4: many have, many have and uh so Ananaki are like

1:55:51 Speaker 4: basically reptilian hybrids. Uh so, you know, and for those

1:55:57 Speaker 4: who maxon Agenda is connected to the drake Go and

1:56:01 Speaker 4: they run or rule many many different planets and races.

1:56:08 Speaker 4: I don't know what they look like because I never

1:56:11 Speaker 4: really you know, I don't.

1:56:14 Speaker 2: I mean the Theaki you're saying, the on Inaki. So

1:56:21 Speaker 2: and for anyone doesn't know, this is the ancient Sumerian.

1:56:25 Speaker 2: This is like the first creation story from ancient zumer

1:56:32 Speaker 2: the cradle of civilization.

1:56:34 Speaker 4: It's not the first creation story they want to yeah.

1:56:38 Speaker 2: Right right, but many they're taught in school is.

1:56:44 Speaker 4: Different seatings of humans comes with different origin stories, right,

1:56:48 Speaker 4: So if you have like the Ananachi and the manipulation

1:56:50 Speaker 4: of DNA or how they claim to have upgraded like

1:56:54 Speaker 4: the Homino. You know, there's a lot more history before

1:56:58 Speaker 4: all of that, you know, right me, Fall consciousness is

1:57:01 Speaker 4: very different than Postfall where the federations began to form

1:57:04 Speaker 4: and so on, and I mean they all have their

1:57:08 Speaker 4: own mythologies, their own kind of creation stories. But you know,

1:57:11 Speaker 4: Tamot and before Tamat and pre Fall consciousness and like

1:57:15 Speaker 4: the Plroma, the AONs you know Lyra and you know

1:57:18 Speaker 4: how it stepped into the Orion Wars when the Anak

1:57:20 Speaker 4: you were created to actually target uh those that you know,

1:57:28 Speaker 4: we're going to remain in an embodied form. You know,

1:57:32 Speaker 4: not every faction is like that, but you know, you're

1:57:34 Speaker 4: dealing with the Luciferian, You're dealing with the Anki Enlt.

1:57:37 Speaker 4: You're dealing with like either on Ankie side or end

1:57:41 Speaker 4: Little side. And it's like come on, you know, both

1:57:43 Speaker 4: pre fall go to the chrys Sophia, go to the

1:57:45 Speaker 4: original blueprint. There are different levels of these entities and

1:57:50 Speaker 4: energy similar to both the Emerald tablets how those you know,

1:57:55 Speaker 4: and then Alister Crowley comes on board with the whole

1:57:57 Speaker 4: thought energy. And it's not to say that everything about

1:58:00 Speaker 4: thought is or thought or however you say it, and

1:58:03 Speaker 4: everybody says it the same. It's all negative. But when

1:58:06 Speaker 4: you step down into lower density, and you know, when

1:58:08 Speaker 4: the Emerald Covenant, Emerald Order and all that you know

1:58:12 Speaker 4: be formed an alliance with the Anonachy, then all of

1:58:14 Speaker 4: a sudden, ooh, we're dealing with a completely different picture.

1:58:19 Speaker 4: So I guess what I'm trying to say, Yeah, Reptilians,

1:58:22 Speaker 4: I mean the Anonarchy basically commissioned the Reptilians. They image, Yeah,

1:58:30 Speaker 4: I mean they formed an alliance. Uh, it's just.

1:58:35 Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot maybe just.

1:58:38 Speaker 4: Kind of like and see what it triggers in them

1:58:41 Speaker 4: to find, you know, a resonance within themselves to kind

1:58:45 Speaker 4: of define all this. There's a lot of resources that

1:58:48 Speaker 4: I have that explain it, but it is that one

1:58:53 Speaker 4: hundred percent truth. I mean, I'm getting as close to

1:58:55 Speaker 4: it as I can with the with the people that

1:58:59 Speaker 4: have re minded me of what exists in my soul memory.

1:59:02 Speaker 4: But there's so much that doesn't resonate that has caused

1:59:07 Speaker 4: me to get to the bottom of things. Like a

1:59:09 Speaker 4: lot of people say TM out of maldec are the same. No, no, no,

1:59:12 Speaker 4: that never resonates. So I keep seeking, Right, you're aut

1:59:15 Speaker 4: a treat to your great grandfather's sign. Okay, maybe, but nope,

1:59:18 Speaker 4: something tells me to keep seeking, keep seeking, so I

1:59:21 Speaker 4: might not be You know, these are big questions to

1:59:23 Speaker 4: be able to answer and sort of articulate. It's like

1:59:26 Speaker 4: it used to be a lot easier because I did

1:59:28 Speaker 4: presentations on it, but my presentations have shifted gears.

1:59:32 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you something real, like one last thing,

1:59:35 Speaker 2: because I think it is important and I forgot to

1:59:38 Speaker 2: ask it. Do you think guys like Corey Good were

1:59:43 Speaker 2: sent in to muddy the waters when it.

1:59:46 Speaker 3: Comes to.

1:59:49 Speaker 2: Things like the secret Space program? Because that is all

1:59:54 Speaker 2: in the UFO community, the secret Space program has become

1:59:57 Speaker 2: like a dirty word.

1:59:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the whole copywriting something like the secret

2:00:02 Speaker 4: Space program or uh and and big words that a

2:00:07 Speaker 4: lot of people have experienced that that's yeah, I'm like,

2:00:12 Speaker 4: that doesn't make any sense, or he wants to be

2:00:13 Speaker 4: in charge of all that. I mean, I I got

2:00:16 Speaker 4: to know him. I got to know him, and it

2:00:20 Speaker 4: seemed to be you know, him sharing his story just

2:00:25 Speaker 4: like a lot of people.

2:00:26 Speaker 3: Uh.

2:00:27 Speaker 4: And then it just started to get you know, really

2:00:29 Speaker 4: weird and and very much about you know, going after

2:00:33 Speaker 4: everybody or making agreements with people and then suing that.

2:00:36 Speaker 4: It's like, I wasn't enough in the inner circle to

2:00:38 Speaker 4: know exactly how that happened. Was he sent specifically, or

2:00:41 Speaker 4: was he infiltrated along the way? Was he replaced? Was

2:00:44 Speaker 4: he cloned? I mean, there are so many possibilities, But

2:00:47 Speaker 4: what matters most is seeing, like, all right, there's something

2:00:50 Speaker 4: really wrong here. Do we cast him nothing but hatred

2:00:54 Speaker 4: and negative energy, or do we pray for his higher

2:00:57 Speaker 4: self or his.

2:01:00 Speaker 3: Right?

2:01:00 Speaker 4: Because I think, you know, like I think certain people

2:01:06 Speaker 4: were sent. There are plants, but I feel that certain

2:01:09 Speaker 4: people were legit might have got an addicted to the power,

2:01:12 Speaker 4: might not have got an addiction to the power. They

2:01:14 Speaker 4: just got infiltrated, They got abducted, they got attacked, they

2:01:16 Speaker 4: got implanted, they got reprogrammed in a ritual. I mean,

2:01:21 Speaker 4: the scenarios are endless. The scenarios are endless. I never

2:01:24 Speaker 4: got to know him well enough. All I know that

2:01:28 Speaker 4: his work began to get very compromised and destructive as

2:01:37 Speaker 4: far as the way people felt very you know, attacked

2:01:45 Speaker 4: and then him kind of playing the victim. That's their experience.

2:01:49 Speaker 4: You know, him and I we we've kept a decent rapport.

2:01:54 Speaker 4: We stopped talking for a couple of years and then

2:01:57 Speaker 4: we got back in touch. And I just I just

2:02:00 Speaker 4: old love and forgiveness and I hold space for people's healing,

2:02:05 Speaker 4: and I just know that we're in a war and

2:02:08 Speaker 4: let's cut each other's slack and realize that people are

2:02:11 Speaker 4: used and weaponized. I think some very very important information.

2:02:15 Speaker 4: But when it starts to go sour, it starts to

2:02:17 Speaker 4: get weird, you know, pull the attention back on yourself

2:02:20 Speaker 4: and just pray for that person and distance yourself and

2:02:24 Speaker 4: and don't get hooked into the drama because that's what

2:02:26 Speaker 4: they would be using him to do.

2:02:28 Speaker 3: That's it.

2:02:29 Speaker 2: That That's one of the most that that was really

2:02:34 Speaker 2: well said. Really, uh, you know again, forgiveness is uh

2:02:40 Speaker 2: something that I think the world needs a little bit

2:02:43 Speaker 2: more of.

2:02:44 Speaker 4: R He's in pain. I mean, God only knows. He

2:02:47 Speaker 4: acted out of pain, and he acted out of trauma.

2:02:49 Speaker 4: You know, we're dealing with people that were tortured and

2:02:51 Speaker 4: abducted and used, you know, and we expect them to

2:02:54 Speaker 4: be on these pillars of you know, just guidance for

2:02:57 Speaker 4: humanity and helping with disclosure, they're going to fall into,

2:03:01 Speaker 4: you know, traps, and we need to step back and

2:03:03 Speaker 4: not put them on such a pedestal to begin with.

2:03:06 Speaker 4: And the thing is, you know, people that are fractured

2:03:08 Speaker 4: and and traumatized can sometimes get addicted to power because

2:03:12 Speaker 4: they've never felt love before, they've never gotten attention before,

2:03:14 Speaker 4: who knows, or they were infiltrated to create, divide and conquer.

2:03:19 Speaker 4: The point is, you know, just like David Wilcock's death,

2:03:22 Speaker 4: a lot of people act like they know, but do

2:03:24 Speaker 4: they really know, you know, So the best we can

2:03:27 Speaker 4: do is just to wish that soul a healing, a

2:03:33 Speaker 4: journey that helps them to be okay, to be at peace,

2:03:36 Speaker 4: to find themselves.

2:03:38 Speaker 3: To that's very well said.

2:03:41 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, I'm it's very well said

2:03:43 Speaker 4: right now.

2:03:43 Speaker 3: But no, no, no, that was actually really well said.

2:03:46 Speaker 2: That was it shows your it shows your like actually

2:03:49 Speaker 2: genuine because I think a lot of people, you know,

2:03:52 Speaker 2: have have taken that whole scenario and you know.

2:03:59 Speaker 3: Distance that him self. And it's and it's this weird.

2:04:02 Speaker 2: Dichotomy in the UFO community that if something like if

2:04:10 Speaker 2: if if something happens to a person, right if if

2:04:15 Speaker 2: if something comes out or you know, a situation like

2:04:18 Speaker 2: Corey Good, let's use this as just an example, they

2:04:23 Speaker 2: write you off immediately because they don't want to have

2:04:28 Speaker 2: any kinks in their armor. They're so afraid of their

2:04:32 Speaker 2: own credibility being attacked or challenged by association, and they

2:04:42 Speaker 2: get very defensive.

2:04:44 Speaker 3: And I think it's created this really weird echo.

2:04:47 Speaker 2: Chamber of of of of almost a gatekeeping effect as

2:04:51 Speaker 2: well in the UFO community. And and it's a sad

2:04:55 Speaker 2: thing to see. I'm not saying what Corey did was

2:04:58 Speaker 2: was right, or that any thing of that nature is

2:05:01 Speaker 2: you know, any of it's right, because again I don't

2:05:03 Speaker 2: know a really ton about it. But what I do

2:05:06 Speaker 2: know is the lasting impression it left. And it's burned relationships.

2:05:12 Speaker 4: Oh no, it's horrible, it's but you know, that's where

2:05:15 Speaker 4: more group conversations should come about. More like, Okay, if

2:05:22 Speaker 4: we're going to bring attention on it, let's let's kind

2:05:25 Speaker 4: of see where I mean. I think people gave their

2:05:28 Speaker 4: power weight toments. They got really addicted to like the

2:05:31 Speaker 4: intensity of all this hidden information coming to light. I

2:05:34 Speaker 4: feel people made him, you know, famous, Uh, and a scandal,

2:05:42 Speaker 4: whether yea or not. Yeah, and and you know, like

2:05:46 Speaker 4: like he has kids, and he has dealt with abductions,

2:05:50 Speaker 4: and he is being taken into these experiences. What if

2:05:53 Speaker 4: he was replaced and he was giving these memories and

2:05:55 Speaker 4: and then they could easily flip a switch and say

2:05:57 Speaker 4: we'll say it never happened, or just keep suing people.

2:06:00 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, why don't we take the bits

2:06:03 Speaker 4: that we can confirm because of other testimonies, because of

2:06:06 Speaker 4: galactic researchers, because of experiencers, because of people like Lis Renee,

2:06:10 Speaker 4: you know, to help us to figure this out and

2:06:12 Speaker 4: then to see, oh, okay, more than likely this is

2:06:15 Speaker 4: what's happening. How can we help him instead of being

2:06:19 Speaker 4: like my life is ruined because he might not be

2:06:22 Speaker 4: for real or he's you know, going after people, Well

2:06:26 Speaker 4: who is he going after? He's going after you know,

2:06:29 Speaker 4: Gaya and and you know what did they do.

2:06:34 Speaker 2: Because a lot of people besides Gia Guya is very

2:06:39 Speaker 2: very I find it almost I mean, I don't even know.

2:06:43 Speaker 3: I don't maybe I shouldn't.

2:06:45 Speaker 4: I'm not even recording this correctly. I'm just saying he

2:06:49 Speaker 4: went after a lot of people that I really care

2:06:51 Speaker 4: about and like, and that's when I stepped away and

2:06:53 Speaker 4: I said, Corey, what are you doing? You know, if

2:06:55 Speaker 4: you're waking up from three D stuff, why are you

2:06:57 Speaker 4: working through the three D to get some kind of

2:07:00 Speaker 4: justice because of your story? Because you want to copyright things.

2:07:02 Speaker 4: It's like, it all was a mess, and it seemed

2:07:04 Speaker 4: like he was being used as a vessel for a

2:07:06 Speaker 4: dark agenda to express itself through to you know. And

2:07:09 Speaker 4: that's where I really felt like and I really wanted this.

2:07:12 Speaker 4: Let's all come together, Let's become more of a team.

2:07:15 Speaker 4: Let's have more discussion where we appeal to him and say, yo,

2:07:20 Speaker 4: let's let's make this public, like a public forum where

2:07:24 Speaker 4: everybody has a voice, and we passed the talking stick.

2:07:28 Speaker 4: What is going on here in order for us to

2:07:31 Speaker 4: understand how he's being played in use in how it's

2:07:34 Speaker 4: impacting people. Can we figure this out amongst ourselves and

2:07:37 Speaker 4: keep the courts.

2:07:37 Speaker 2: Out of it?

2:07:38 Speaker 3: At least?

2:07:39 Speaker 4: Why? At least can we try? But I ended up

2:07:42 Speaker 4: getting like pulled into David's resignation letter, and I, you know,

2:07:45 Speaker 4: and and I was being like messed with, and I said,

2:07:48 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have anything to do with it. And

2:07:50 Speaker 4: unfortunately a post that I did was left up for

2:07:53 Speaker 4: long enough for Reddit to take it. And then I

2:07:56 Speaker 4: was yeah, because I was being convinced, like it's Luciferian,

2:08:01 Speaker 4: it's harming you know, all these employees, because the gem

2:08:04 Speaker 4: Drops and Corey and Patty were saying, you got to

2:08:07 Speaker 4: post this, and oh, it's such a long story, so

2:08:10 Speaker 4: instead we get into it things. Then I was just

2:08:13 Speaker 4: thrown into the mix of being part of the problem

2:08:15 Speaker 4: and it's just devastating. So I don't want to be

2:08:18 Speaker 4: a victim to it, but I know my heart was

2:08:20 Speaker 4: in the right place, and I was I was like

2:08:22 Speaker 4: paniced that people are literally being harmed? Was that made up?

2:08:25 Speaker 4: I mean, the thing is I wish I had the

2:08:27 Speaker 4: time to be an investigative research or detective. That would

2:08:30 Speaker 4: be my career if I wasn't doing what I'm doing,

2:08:33 Speaker 4: because I you know, I get into all that kind

2:08:35 Speaker 4: of stuff, right. You just don't have enough time in

2:08:37 Speaker 4: the day to be able to solve these things. So

2:08:40 Speaker 4: how can we mitigate the damage? You know? Unfortunately, you know,

2:08:44 Speaker 4: if David's resignation letter was legit, then that needed to

2:08:47 Speaker 4: be called out. If it's not legit, then then what

2:08:51 Speaker 4: do they have to hide? What do they have to

2:08:52 Speaker 4: worry about? You know, people accuse me of stuff all

2:08:54 Speaker 4: the time. The reason it doesn't bother me is because

2:08:56 Speaker 4: it's not true. Truth doesn't need believers and followers. It's like,

2:08:59 Speaker 4: I'm solid. It's like, take just the truth, right, So

2:09:03 Speaker 4: if they get all bent out of the shape because

2:09:05 Speaker 4: of what was in that letter, if it's not true,

2:09:08 Speaker 4: then just shine your truth and and and show your

2:09:11 Speaker 4: true self and and don't even worry about it. The

2:09:14 Speaker 4: fact that it erupted in all this, Maybe it was true.

2:09:17 Speaker 3: I don't know, right.

2:09:19 Speaker 4: All I'm saying is truth is solid. It doesn't need

2:09:21 Speaker 4: followers and believers. When things spiral into so much chaoticness

2:09:25 Speaker 4: and so much dysfunction and so much war, then maybe

2:09:28 Speaker 4: both sides of something to hide. I don't know. It's

2:09:31 Speaker 4: just truth is a beacon that corrects, that brings people together.

2:09:35 Speaker 4: That is all about love and that's where I stand.

2:09:38 Speaker 4: And if you can't see that, that's not.

2:09:40 Speaker 2: And division, division and division and infighting is indicative of

2:09:50 Speaker 2: like psychological operation against you.

2:09:53 Speaker 4: But if you stand in love, and you stand in

2:09:55 Speaker 4: your truth, what do you possibly have to hide? You

2:09:57 Speaker 4: will be a force of correction, of healing, of reconciling,

2:10:00 Speaker 4: of airing out whatever for people to see so they

2:10:03 Speaker 4: know who you truly are, and you shouldn't be afraid

2:10:05 Speaker 4: of it, no matter what your abuse, no matter what

2:10:07 Speaker 4: the thought is, no matter who's being targeted. That's what

2:10:10 Speaker 4: wins in the end. That's why the deep state is

2:10:12 Speaker 4: crumbling because they cannot show that all that the victims

2:10:17 Speaker 4: are saying isn't true. They know it's true. So whatever

2:10:20 Speaker 4: is happening in the disclosure community, what is going to

2:10:23 Speaker 4: rise out of it like a phoenix are the true truthers.

2:10:26 Speaker 4: And it's not truth because we have every piece of

2:10:28 Speaker 4: information and correct. It's truth because we're authentic. It's truth

2:10:32 Speaker 4: because we're in integrity, because that is the truth of God,

2:10:34 Speaker 4: because God is love, God is truth. So you know,

2:10:37 Speaker 4: we're doing our best with the information. But the truth

2:10:39 Speaker 4: is the truth, or the true essence of it is

2:10:42 Speaker 4: that we will self correct, we will forgive, we will

2:10:45 Speaker 4: live in integrity, and we'll do our best to walk

2:10:48 Speaker 4: through this war, in this battle and rise above and

2:10:51 Speaker 4: heal all fractures, wounds, targeting and falling into pits and

2:10:58 Speaker 4: being vulnerable. We have each other's back we're a team.

2:11:02 Speaker 4: I feel that with you, I feel that with a

2:11:03 Speaker 4: lot of people, and whatever cannot step up to the

2:11:06 Speaker 4: plate will fall away, And whatever falls away, there's still

2:11:11 Speaker 4: a set of that soul that can emerge out of it.

2:11:13 Speaker 4: What falls away is the programming, the false personas, the

2:11:18 Speaker 4: the agendas that people are running through false personas. That

2:11:22 Speaker 4: is what will crumble. But that soul still has a

2:11:25 Speaker 4: chance to rise and say, oh my gosh, I was

2:11:27 Speaker 4: being used. I don't even remember any of that. That

2:11:29 Speaker 4: wasn't me. Okay, we love you, come home.

2:11:32 Speaker 3: Like right, right right?

2:11:34 Speaker 4: You be here for the children because they're victims, but

2:11:39 Speaker 4: they become handlers, they become perpetrators in the Illuminati, right,

2:11:43 Speaker 4: So God only knows a lot of that is also

2:11:46 Speaker 4: in the secret space programs. So we need to rescue

2:11:49 Speaker 4: those souls by understanding what they're up against. Yes, they

2:11:53 Speaker 4: target us, they weaponize them to target us. Let's not

2:11:57 Speaker 4: be victims to them. Let's understand what they're dealing with

2:12:00 Speaker 4: and help those souls return home and clean up the

2:12:02 Speaker 4: wreckage of whatever books were written that or whatever beliefs

2:12:05 Speaker 4: we held, whatever support we thought we should have for them,

2:12:08 Speaker 4: and maybe that we were wronged, all right? You know, well,

2:12:12 Speaker 4: the whole system is waking up to the careers that

2:12:14 Speaker 4: they had and the people that they trusted that were

2:12:16 Speaker 4: the deceivers this whole time. It's hit the disclosure community too.

2:12:20 Speaker 4: This is the thing with humanity right now. We have

2:12:22 Speaker 4: to rehabilitate people are crushed by how they invested in

2:12:27 Speaker 4: something that ended up deceiving them or the whole of

2:12:30 Speaker 4: humanity is facing this right now. So let's rather and

2:12:33 Speaker 4: heal this and be like, Okay, I was duped, Okay,

2:12:37 Speaker 4: I was hurt, Okay I was used, Okay I was targeted.

2:12:40 Speaker 3: All right, now let's heal, let's and move on and.

2:12:44 Speaker 4: Move on, because we've all been hit to a certain degree,

2:12:47 Speaker 4: you know, and if it wasn't that it was lovers, partners, parents, Yeah,

2:12:52 Speaker 4: I mean none of us are unscathed.

2:12:55 Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're exactly right. And this has been

2:12:59 Speaker 2: so so so amazing. We we definitely went over time

2:13:04 Speaker 2: as well. So where can people continue to find your work?

2:13:09 Speaker 2: Your book?

2:13:10 Speaker 3: I'll put all the description.

2:13:12 Speaker 2: Below for the video and the podcast as well, but

2:13:15 Speaker 2: you know, where can people continue to hear your voice?

2:13:19 Speaker 4: Well? Thank you so much, And I don't know if

2:13:22 Speaker 4: you need to edit anything out because I know there's

2:13:24 Speaker 4: just a lot of run ons with me.

2:13:25 Speaker 3: And no, no, no.

2:13:28 Speaker 4: Anyway, whatever you choose to, you know, keep my website's

2:13:31 Speaker 4: cosmic Gaia dot org and most of my social media

2:13:36 Speaker 4: links are on the homepage. And my book is Awakening

2:13:40 Speaker 4: the Truth Frequency you can find that on Amazon, but

2:13:43 Speaker 4: probably better CCC Publishing dot com. That's CCC Publishing dot com.

2:13:49 Speaker 4: That goes directly to Brad Olsen's website. Who's my publisher.

2:13:54 Speaker 4: You'll see a bunch of other really good books there.

2:13:56 Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm on YouTube, Laura Eisenhower. Find me on

2:13:59 Speaker 4: social media. Sub Sex is a really great place to

2:14:01 Speaker 4: find my articles. I really get into these subjects. So

2:14:06 Speaker 4: if you're like, oh my god, that was like talking

2:14:08 Speaker 4: to you fast, way over my head. You can really

2:14:10 Speaker 4: take your time with the things that I've written. And also,

2:14:13 Speaker 4: of course if you you know, find my book. And yeah,

2:14:17 Speaker 4: I do a lot of events and retreats, uh and

2:14:20 Speaker 4: I do astrological readings, and I work with helping you

2:14:25 Speaker 4: to move out of inversions and the weaponization of it

2:14:28 Speaker 4: all to uh really embody the highest potential of of

2:14:35 Speaker 4: who you are and and and just help you work

2:14:37 Speaker 4: through whatever to you know, get there. But really you're

2:14:39 Speaker 4: doing the work. I'm just reminding you of yourself.

2:14:41 Speaker 2: So of course, of course, and yeah, you are tremendous.

2:14:46 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna have to cut too much

2:14:48 Speaker 2: at all. I like these raw kind of back and

2:14:52 Speaker 2: forth discussions every once in a while. It's like it

2:14:56 Speaker 2: reminds me, you know that, It just it allows me

2:15:03 Speaker 2: to tap into something right and and kind of go

2:15:06 Speaker 2: try to go tip for t And I truly believe

2:15:10 Speaker 2: that the people you surround yourself with they make or

2:15:12 Speaker 2: break you. And again, if you're surrounding yourself with energy

2:15:16 Speaker 2: vampires and people that just want to continue to either

2:15:20 Speaker 2: see you stagnate or you know, stoop to their level,

2:15:28 Speaker 2: you know you're not gonna excel. But if you're surrounding

2:15:31 Speaker 2: yourself with people that are constantly challenging you to be

2:15:34 Speaker 2: the better and best version of yourself, then then you're

2:15:38 Speaker 2: going to succeed. And it's just simple, right. So you

2:15:41 Speaker 2: are a great version of that, Laura. You have such

2:15:45 Speaker 2: a an aura about you. And again I would love

2:15:50 Speaker 2: to have you back and we'll have a discussion, so

2:15:52 Speaker 2: let's help facilitate that.

2:15:54 Speaker 4: Thank you so much amazing. It's so wonderful to talk

2:15:57 Speaker 4: with you. I've really enjoyed getting to know you, and

2:15:59 Speaker 4: I look for getting to know you more and just

2:16:01 Speaker 4: hearing more about you, know your path and what you've discovered.

2:16:04 Speaker 4: And so I'm glad it was conversational, but I uh,

2:16:08 Speaker 4: I still want to you know, get to know you more.

2:16:09 Speaker 4: So thank you, really it has been great, And thank

2:16:12 Speaker 4: you audience for checking out.

2:16:14 Speaker 2: And thank you guys so much. Like she said, thank

2:16:17 Speaker 2: you audience, we wouldn't do it without you. Honestly, the

2:16:22 Speaker 2: ratings and all that stuff got reset, so we are

2:16:26 Speaker 2: asking if you can rate and review the show on

2:16:29 Speaker 2: the podcast platforms now that we switch to RSS speed

2:16:33 Speaker 2: at reset. So that sucks, but it is. It was

2:16:37 Speaker 2: a price I had to pay. And yeah, like share, subscribe,

2:16:41 Speaker 2: it's the best way you can help us get seen

2:16:43 Speaker 2: by a broader audience. H keep the lights on literally

2:16:46 Speaker 2: and keep flying people in. Also doing these remote conversations,

2:16:50 Speaker 2: uh with some some folks, is uh still happening. We're

2:16:54 Speaker 2: in like a hybrid phase. But help support the show

2:16:58 Speaker 2: and it's freet You have your phone in your hand already,

2:17:00 Speaker 2: don't act like it's going anywhere. Take twenty seconds and

2:17:04 Speaker 2: share the video of your friends and family. The Grays

2:17:07 Speaker 2: I don't discriminate and we'll see you guys next time.

2:17:10 Speaker 2: Stay humble, stay kind, and stay vision

2:18:05 Speaker 1: To pop