Presidential Disclosure of UFOs and NHI Ft. Meagan Medick (Reality check)
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Speaker 1: Something has changed.
Speaker 2: I don't know quite what it is, but for decades
Speaker 2: the subject of UFOs have lived in the shadows, dismissed, ridiculed, buried.
Speaker 2: But now, as of this last couple of weeks, we
Speaker 2: have former and current presidents speaking out about UFOs and aliens,
Speaker 2: openly classified files being declassified, and for the first time,
Speaker 2: you know, serious journalists on the inside, they're gearing up
Speaker 2: for something serious, a serious conversation. This topic is fastly
Speaker 2: moving past theoretical. The question is no longer if disclosure
Speaker 2: is coming, but when and how close are we really? Tonight,
Speaker 2: I'm joined by someone with a direct view behind the curtain,
Speaker 2: a producer for Reality Check with Ross Koltart. Her name
Speaker 2: Megan Medic, and she's joining us live tonight from Los
Speaker 2: Angeles to help us understand what's happening and what may
Speaker 2: be coming next. This is total disclosure. Ooh, that's a
Speaker 2: purple camera.
Speaker 1: How are we doing? Megan?
Speaker 3: Hi? Hi, I'm great.
Speaker 2: How are you fantastic? Fantastic? So, before we like jump
Speaker 2: into all this, uh, you're at You're in LA You're
Speaker 2: at the Uh what is it the Conscious Life Act.
Speaker 3: Conscious Life Expo? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, how how is everything there. How's how's it feeling
Speaker 2: with everything that's been going on?
Speaker 3: It is awesome. This place is absolutely packed. I didn't
Speaker 3: know what to expect when I got here. I took
Speaker 3: the five am flight in and kind of rolled off
Speaker 3: the plane and changed my clothes and ran over here
Speaker 3: to meet Ross. And it has been NonStop. There have
Speaker 3: been so many amazing people who have come up to
Speaker 3: him and asked for pictures with him and wanting to
Speaker 3: talk to him, ask him what his opinion is of
Speaker 3: what's going on. Citizens for Disclosure has a table here
Speaker 3: and they I walked past and they actually grabbed me
Speaker 3: and they're like, can you help us get a picture
Speaker 3: with Ross? We want to talk to him. And they
Speaker 3: had like the front page of a news source on
Speaker 3: their desk that said, you know, Drum says Disclosure is coming.
Speaker 3: So people are really excited about it, and it's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it truly kind of feels like we're
Speaker 2: on the brink of something, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: get too caught up in it because again, like for me,
Speaker 2: I feel like we've been through this, not this exact scenario.
Speaker 2: I think this is something very unique, but I'm very
Speaker 2: nervous to be all in and then have it, you know,
Speaker 2: be like some shiny distraction to like bipartisan, get us
Speaker 2: away from the Epstein files, right, like something like that,
Speaker 2: And some praise those kind of thoughts, But for me
Speaker 2: also it's like, wait, we've been fighting our whole life
Speaker 2: for this, Like people have dedicated their whole lives to
Speaker 2: getting to this truth.
Speaker 1: I feel that we can rejoice a little bit.
Speaker 3: And it's funny the Tigers. When I saw this last night,
Speaker 3: I was like, so, after all that, all that all
Speaker 3: we had to do was ask We had what four
Speaker 3: high profile events. It was a Laura Trump and then
Speaker 3: an Obama and then a Caroline Lovett and then Laura
Speaker 3: Trump again and then Peter Jucy you know, says it
Speaker 3: to the president and kaboom, this went from a taboo
Speaker 3: topic to mainstream media overnight. So yeah, it's a long
Speaker 3: fight for just to get the question in front of
Speaker 3: the right person.
Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't I know. I was giving Brian.
Speaker 2: I think it's Brian Tyler Cohen.
Speaker 3: He was the one podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah he asked, he was the one to asked her.
Speaker 2: By all of that, and I gave him ship for
Speaker 2: not following up and then he's you know, he put
Speaker 2: out a tweet and he's.
Speaker 1: Like, you guys are giving me ship. I didn't follow up.
Speaker 2: Now you know we're on the brink of disclosure. They
Speaker 2: you know, you're welcome, guys.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I know, I saw I saw
Speaker 3: a tweet from him last night and he said what
Speaker 3: have I done? And I'm like, yeah, I mean thanks Pal,
Speaker 3: Like what a snowball? Huh?
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I mean not to jump too quick into this,
Speaker 2: but it is obviously something that's on everybody's mind. You know,
Speaker 2: you're you're I would say, you're a bit newer to
Speaker 2: the topic, but maybe we can start.
Speaker 1: How did you get involved in all this? Ruckus?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Ruckus what a great word for it. Honestly, the
Speaker 3: I was just thrown in my boss Andy, who's actually
Speaker 3: sitting right in front of you right now watching me
Speaker 3: do this. He was like, Hey, we're going into the
Speaker 3: podcast space. We have a couple of shows. One of
Speaker 3: them is you know UFO Alien E. He's like, it's
Speaker 3: so big that doesn't really need a ton of help,
Speaker 3: so we need you producing a couple other shows. And
Speaker 3: then it got so big that it was like, oh, actually,
Speaker 3: you know, we might actually need some help on this,
Speaker 3: and Ty, any chance I can get to kind of
Speaker 3: bash the government, government or hypocrisy, I am like all
Speaker 3: for it. I'm like, oh you want me to talk
Speaker 3: about that? And so I first got together with Ross
Speaker 3: and he so freely was bashing the government, and like
Speaker 3: you and I might actually have something here. Let's just
Speaker 3: keep being friends and bantering. So yeah, we just another snowball.
Speaker 3: We just kind of kept going at it and it's
Speaker 3: really worked out. So I'm thankful for the introduction for
Speaker 3: the topic. And I'm so sorry for the people who
Speaker 3: have dedicated their lives to this who are now getting
Speaker 3: disclosure when it's been about two year for me, and
Speaker 3: I'm feeling the rewards already.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's not without hard work. So before the cameras,
Speaker 2: before reality check, you know, I mean, did you ever
Speaker 2: have like any sightings? Did you ever actually wonder about this, like,
Speaker 2: you know, could we be alone, Like was this ever
Speaker 2: anything that was on your radar?
Speaker 3: Oh? Always, yeah, always. I grew up. I grew up
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas, so you know, area fifty one and
Speaker 3: was always in our backyard and we were always talking
Speaker 3: about that. And then you know, like the fifty ones
Speaker 3: were our minor league baseball team over at Cashman Field.
Speaker 3: So Alien was kind of like a symbol growing up.
Speaker 3: And then I actually haven't told this story yet, and
Speaker 3: I have it in my notes for an interview that
Speaker 3: I'm doing tomorrow. But when I was younger, I actually
Speaker 3: saw two ghosts.
Speaker 2: So and I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm gonna stop you
Speaker 2: right there. We're gonna have to get to that ghost story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'll tell the ghost stories, okay, But I
Speaker 3: have stood firm my whole life. Like I saw these ghasts.
Speaker 3: I was a young girl. I was at my friend's house.
Speaker 3: I was standing in the kitchen. They had stairs that
Speaker 3: went down down to the kitchen and then right back
Speaker 3: down into the garage and there was like a basement
Speaker 3: like hangout room area. And I saw my friend Judy
Speaker 3: come down the stairs and go down there, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I wonder why she's not coming up? Why is he
Speaker 3: not coming up? And then ten minutes later she comes
Speaker 3: in through the back door and I'm like, I just
Speaker 3: saw you go down there, like I saw you go
Speaker 3: down there, and they and her and her sister said
Speaker 3: to me, oh, that's our ghost, Like it was like, no,
Speaker 3: They're like, the ghost looks just like Judy and I
Speaker 3: that happened. I know what happened. And then years later,
Speaker 3: when I was in high school, I was at my
Speaker 3: best friend Nicole's house and I saw a ghost come
Speaker 3: out of one room from the upstairs and go into
Speaker 3: her bedroom. I thought it was the coal so I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm going into the bedroom to chat in the Coole
Speaker 3: and she is not in there. The room is empty,
Speaker 3: and I told her mom. I was like, there's ghost
Speaker 3: upstairs whatever, and she's like, oh, yeah, I've seen that too,
Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, I am open to this. And
Speaker 3: then I was in New Orleans fourth of July many
Speaker 3: many years ago and I sat with a terror card
Speaker 3: reader on the street and everything that they said to
Speaker 3: me has come true. So I've always fully subscribed to
Speaker 3: I've always fully subscribed to this. So having opened.
Speaker 2: Minds, it's yeah, that element of the like the trickster though,
Speaker 2: like like kind of deceiving you right, like it was
Speaker 2: your friend going in like that is something that I
Speaker 2: have noticed with the paranormal is that it does it's
Speaker 2: almost like it is trying to just kind of like
Speaker 2: not harm you, but like mess with you like it's
Speaker 2: it's a very weird.
Speaker 3: Why now that you say it like that, Like were
Speaker 3: those ghosts trying to like get me to go down there?
Speaker 3: Like was I supposed to follow them?
Speaker 2: I'm I don't know, I believe it's. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 2: I won't get into what I believe it is because
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of off the rails, But I definitely.
Speaker 3: Think we'd hate to go off those.
Speaker 1: We'd hate to do that, right, And.
Speaker 2: So shifting back, I mean you've worked directly, you know,
Speaker 2: under with Ross, have spoken to intelligence officials, defense insiders,
Speaker 2: firsthand witnesses. How different is the reality behind the scenes
Speaker 2: compared to the public perception that that is seen, you
Speaker 2: know by the public after you know the editing and
Speaker 2: you know how it out is. How is it behind
Speaker 2: the scenes with Ross?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, so I can tell you on our show
Speaker 3: we give you everything. There is very very little we
Speaker 3: ever cut out if we do, and that would be
Speaker 3: to only honor a guest who has said, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: I said something and I'm concerned to kind of about
Speaker 3: my safety. Now, I wish I didn't say that. I
Speaker 3: actually don't can't back that up or I spoke on that,
Speaker 3: and I don't have the person's permission to say it.
Speaker 3: So that's the only time that we would ever cut
Speaker 3: something out is to protect people. It would never be
Speaker 3: for something big. Information wise. We give you the full thing.
Speaker 3: We're not splicing and dicing hot SoundBite here, hot SoundBite there.
Speaker 3: And that's the why I think Ross's show works so well,
Speaker 3: because this topic is so complex. You can't do it
Speaker 3: in a five minute news hit or a ninety second
Speaker 3: package on the news because you're not getting the full story.
Speaker 3: We want to give you the full story. And yeah,
Speaker 3: sometimes episodes are an hour, sometimes they're longer, but we
Speaker 3: want to give you all of the information because we
Speaker 3: want you to hear it and aside for yourself. And
Speaker 3: when it comes to the news gathering of it all
Speaker 3: and the sources of it all behind the scenes, really
Speaker 3: the only thing that's different is there are so many
Speaker 3: people who have stories, so many people that want to
Speaker 3: come forward, so many people that talk to us, so
Speaker 3: many people that we you know, pre interview with that
Speaker 3: we're trying to get comfortable with going public. So it's
Speaker 3: there the stories that you've heard that are huge that
Speaker 3: you're like, I cannot believe that, like a grusher of
Speaker 3: Barber et cetera, et cetera. I mean times and by ten.
Speaker 3: And that's the reality of the situation of so many
Speaker 3: people who have amazing stories, but you know they're obviously
Speaker 3: sensitive and tough to tell.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a that's very very that's insightful.
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people really take that
Speaker 2: into consideration, and they don't really see all the nooks
Speaker 2: and crannies of what it takes to get someone to
Speaker 2: come forward, to sit down in front of such a
Speaker 2: big platform, such a good you know, a huge amount
Speaker 2: of people are going to hear this, and I think
Speaker 2: that's something the UFO topic in general has faced for
Speaker 2: a long time. Yeah, is that fear, the fear of
Speaker 2: attribution is real, so totally Yeah, what is it? What
Speaker 2: is your experience been with getting amnesty or giving protection
Speaker 2: to these whistleblowers?
Speaker 1: What would you like to see happen?
Speaker 2: And and uh, you know, just from working with Ross
Speaker 2: and seeing how you know, scared these people might be well.
Speaker 3: First and foremost, I think that when it comes to
Speaker 3: things like the whistlepow or Protection Act, it just shows
Speaker 3: that the government is extremely hypocritical. They want people to
Speaker 3: come forward. They want first hand testimony, they want first
Speaker 3: hand witnesses, they want evidence, But then these people aren't
Speaker 3: allowed to speak or they're not protected if they they do.
Speaker 3: So for me personally, it's just like, how are we
Speaker 3: going to give it, get get it to you if
Speaker 3: these people aren't going to feel safe or protected, because
Speaker 3: I guarantee you that if it comes to their life
Speaker 3: or telling you know, most people are going to protect
Speaker 3: themselves and their and their life and their families obviously.
Speaker 3: But then you know, you have the government saying things like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: you know, give it to us. We're Arrow, We're going
Speaker 3: to investigate it, we're going to look at it. And
Speaker 3: then you have you know, congressional groups. Do you have
Speaker 3: all these task forces who are trying to collect information,
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, do you have the information or
Speaker 3: do you not? Because for the for the common man,
Speaker 3: the Pentagon, Congress, et cetera. Yeah, they're different, steparate entities
Speaker 3: of the government, but they actually are still the government.
Speaker 3: So you have these task forces asking citizens to come
Speaker 3: to come forward, but then you have the Pentagon slash Arrow,
Speaker 3: who actually have the information, who are basically, in my mind,
Speaker 3: Arrow is a cover for the cover of you know,
Speaker 3: we have the information, but we're still going to make
Speaker 3: you do the rat race of looking for it. But
Speaker 3: oh wait, you actually can't come forward because we won't
Speaker 3: protect you. Sorry. So I don't even know if I
Speaker 3: answered your question.
Speaker 2: But yeah, something I've always found very, very weird is yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I've interviewed guys like Tim Phillips too, and
Speaker 2: trying to get a straight answer out of that guy
Speaker 2: was like pulling teeth.
Speaker 1: You know, it was like just say.
Speaker 2: Yes or no, Just say yes. Stop giving me the bureaucracy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's a massive red line there. Yeah. The
Speaker 3: breocracy is endless, and it's you know, it's crappy for
Speaker 3: people who actually want the truth and are actually working
Speaker 3: hard to get it because there's red tape that they're
Speaker 3: never going to be able to cross unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so after hearing so many testimonies, after hearing
Speaker 2: all of what you've heard in regards to working in
Speaker 2: this topic, you know, have you have you sought out
Speaker 2: or sought like, noticed any patterns or similar events, similar technologies.
Speaker 2: What does that landscape look like to you?
Speaker 3: You know, we think it kind of ebbs and flows,
Speaker 3: I think, right, now, the biggest thing that we are
Speaker 3: hearing from people is the ORB phenomenon. I can't even
Speaker 3: tell you how many emails we get every single day
Speaker 3: and direct messages on all social media platforms of people
Speaker 3: reaching out to us about the ORBS. So that's kind
Speaker 3: of where I feel like it is. The story in
Speaker 3: the narrative is right now in the phenomenon of how
Speaker 3: people are maybe being contacted or what they're seeing. But
Speaker 3: you know, back back in the day, it was all
Speaker 3: about the tic tac and what is that? And before that,
Speaker 3: you know, you have the flying saucer ideology. So there's
Speaker 3: all these different forms. Let's not forget virgin the cigar shaped.
Speaker 3: So I feel like the phenomena has all these different
Speaker 3: shapes and ways that it's coming to people. But right now,
Speaker 3: in today's landscape, I'm seeing that the ORB phenomenon is
Speaker 3: really the biggest with our specific audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know there's guys like Chris bloodsoe out there.
Speaker 2: You guys have interviewed Chris or I know Ross has
Speaker 2: at least I'm not sure if you were there for
Speaker 2: that one that the Jake Barber the what do you
Speaker 2: make of do you think people can actually call in
Speaker 2: ut fos with their minds.
Speaker 3: I had somebody, I literally have somebody messaging me right
Speaker 3: now on Instagram who's been messaging me all day saying
Speaker 3: that they can do it and just let me know
Speaker 3: when and they'll take us out to do it. I
Speaker 3: think anything as possible, and especially being at the Conscious
Speaker 3: Life Expo, you are really seeing how powerful the mind is.
Speaker 3: Of course I would love to see that and experience
Speaker 3: it myself. You know, when I did experience an ORB
Speaker 3: back in October, Ross was very clear with me that
Speaker 3: he thought that ORB had sought me out and came
Speaker 3: specifically so I could see it. But I just don't
Speaker 3: have enough knowledge of it to say do I believe
Speaker 3: it or not.
Speaker 2: ORB Soe told this story on Area fifty two about
Speaker 2: how he had been with someone who you know, was
Speaker 2: gonna make some stuff appear with his mind, and shoot enough,
Speaker 2: two golden orbs come over the horizon and then towards
Speaker 2: the end of the experience, Oh, we didn't see that hexagon.
Speaker 2: You did say that you predicted, and then the hexagon
Speaker 2: shows up.
Speaker 1: This isn't the same thing. This is different.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, my experience was different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's so you weren't with that one.
Speaker 3: No, No, I was just on vacation hanging out.
Speaker 2: So what happened to you? What? Wait? Wait? So okay,
Speaker 2: so you saw an orb?
Speaker 3: Yeah you're yeah, and just full full disclosure everybody, I
Speaker 3: swear I'm not. I'm just total disclosure. I'm just a normal,
Speaker 3: normal girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was on I was on vacation in October and
Speaker 3: it was about sunset time and I was kind of
Speaker 3: just looking out over the ocean and the big ORB
Speaker 3: just like came and floated down kind of in front
Speaker 3: of me. You're super slow, slow, totally transfixed on it,
Speaker 3: couldn't look away. I just was so in awe of it,
Speaker 3: and I just kept following it, following and following it,
Speaker 3: and then it just disappeared, and you know, there it goes.
Speaker 3: And my husband looked over me. He's like, what's going
Speaker 3: on with you? You've been gone for a minute. And
Speaker 3: I just looked a him and I said, I just
Speaker 3: saw up. And that was that simple. It was that simple.
Speaker 2: What is Yeah, going back to what you just said
Speaker 2: with Ross and saying he said that it sought you out? Yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you think he means by that?
Speaker 1: I think I know, but I just want to know
Speaker 1: if you.
Speaker 3: What he means is he's saying that this entity knows
Speaker 3: that I'm working in this space and knows that I'm
Speaker 3: working with him, and they wanted to make themselves known
Speaker 3: to me in the simplest terms, right.
Speaker 2: And I've had you know, I had my own sighting
Speaker 2: when I was very young, but I had one much
Speaker 2: more recently when my mother passed away. Yeah, when my
Speaker 2: mother passed away, was the orb of light. And I'm
Speaker 2: a little color blind, so I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was again, I don't know if it was emitting any
Speaker 2: light like a color, but it looked like it looked
Speaker 2: like light was bending around it rather than it was
Speaker 2: emitting any light.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And it goes out of the room, up and I
Speaker 2: just watch it go out of the room and up,
Speaker 2: and then I look back and my mother is no
Speaker 2: longer in her body. You know, you know when someone's
Speaker 2: there when someone's not. So I do believe because I
Speaker 2: was on a bad path and it was like it
Speaker 2: shifted me. And I'm not going to sit here and
Speaker 2: talk about myself for the next twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: I would love to hear this. Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: It was like my mother, there's last way of like boom,
Speaker 2: kick you back onto the right path. Because then I
Speaker 2: switched my life and I was like, shit, I need
Speaker 2: I need every answer I can get. Yeah, And all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know that sighting when I was twelve,
Speaker 2: that became more relevant in my life. And then I
Speaker 2: started thinking, was I put on this path? Do you
Speaker 2: believe that that we are slated for fate or destiny
Speaker 2: or that kind of thing. It's very deep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and first and foremost, I my condolences to
Speaker 3: you for the loss of your mother and my heart too.
Speaker 2: She also passed away on four three two one. It's bizarre,
Speaker 2: very bizarre.
Speaker 3: You know what, what year is it, twenty twenty six? Oh,
Speaker 3: my my dad passed four six two two.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So and these dates, like these things start showing
Speaker 2: up and it's just very very weird, and I mean
Speaker 2: it's it's for me again, Like I was on a
Speaker 2: different path, and it was like her way of like, hey,
Speaker 2: get back on the right track, right because like you have,
Speaker 2: you have worked, you have work to do.
Speaker 3: That's amazing, that's incredible.
Speaker 2: You know. Now I'm here and you know I met
Speaker 2: you at the National Press Club.
Speaker 1: Event for James Bob.
Speaker 2: I always find myself as long as I do the
Speaker 2: next right thing, you know, morally, the next right thing.
Speaker 2: I'm in the right place at the right time to
Speaker 2: walk you know, Bob's house into you know, Nuclear Controller,
Speaker 2: into the office of Chairwoman Mace after the hearing. So
Speaker 2: it's like again, it's like, I think we all have
Speaker 2: a part to play in this, and we each have
Speaker 2: our thing, and I wish more people in this community
Speaker 2: could find what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more and I'm so glad
Speaker 3: that you found something, even though it's the unfortunately if
Speaker 3: your loss of your mother that's pushed you into this
Speaker 3: incredible place. But I everything happens for a reason, and
Speaker 3: you know, my father is definitely my shining light. Everything
Speaker 3: I do is to make James Medic proud. That's literally it.
Speaker 3: That's my standard in life is when anything that question
Speaker 3: comes out, the first thing I ask is what would
Speaker 3: my dad do? What would my dad think about this?
Speaker 3: Is this going to make him proud? Is this the
Speaker 3: right decision? And it also really brought me back to
Speaker 3: church as well. You know, life can be extremely busy,
Speaker 3: and I feel like that part of because I was
Speaker 3: so busy and making things important that probably weren't the
Speaker 3: most important thing. You know, there's nothing that I like
Speaker 3: more than on a Sunday than going to church for
Speaker 3: an hour. I'm being centered and actually feeling like I'm
Speaker 3: connecting with my father, and I think that there is
Speaker 3: a world where the phenomenon and the church co exist,
Speaker 3: and I'm still really researching that and looking at that
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that, because that's a big part of
Speaker 2: what I think the next conversation is going to be,
Speaker 2: right is what let's say. Now, Okay, let's say I
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, Obama's talking on podcasts about aliens
Speaker 2: being real. Let's say he's being completely genuine. Right now,
Speaker 2: Trump's saying, you know, he gave out classified information. Yeah
Speaker 2: the Trump voice, I can't really do it, but he
Speaker 2: gave out classified information. But then the next couple hours
Speaker 2: go by and he's like, we're gonna declassify it all.
Speaker 2: So there's let's say there is a there there. Let's
Speaker 2: operate on that assumption. Well, the next question becomes how
Speaker 2: involved are they? Right?
Speaker 3: Well, let's take a look at how President Trump has
Speaker 3: handled disclosure so far. Let's look at the JKA assassination documents,
Speaker 3: and let's look at the Epstein files. These are absolutely
Speaker 3: massive document dumps, thousands and thousands and thousands of pages
Speaker 3: with no real order or rhyme or reason. And then
Speaker 3: it's like here you go, enjoy, and now it is
Speaker 3: your your job to look through that with a fine
Speaker 3: tube comb and find the news and find the nuggets,
Speaker 3: and and then you do with it what you will. So,
Speaker 3: if we're going to be following that pattern of disclosure
Speaker 3: where you're you're literally I mean when those Ross's absolute
Speaker 3: expert in the DFK assassination. We've done multiple specials on
Speaker 3: it and interviews, interviews on it when thank you all
Speaker 3: rous So when those documents came out, we knew that
Speaker 3: this was going to be our our story, that we
Speaker 3: were going to have to do another special one and
Speaker 3: these things kind of I looked at I started looking
Speaker 3: at him. I'm like, come again, come again, I think, Andy,
Speaker 3: what did we do? We were like you get one,
Speaker 3: you get one through two hundreds, you get two hundred,
Speaker 3: you get two hundred and four hundred, or just like crap,
Speaker 3: I like this is this sucks.
Speaker 2: Just you get a file. You get a file.
Speaker 3: Exactly, and I'm like, what am I even looking for
Speaker 3: at this point? Like the Epstein thing, you can like
Speaker 3: search someone's name and be like herb or not, you know,
Speaker 3: like like you know, you can just like you did it.
Speaker 2: There's that j world. If you found that j world site,
Speaker 2: it's yeah, I'll send it to you. They organized all
Speaker 2: the Epstein files into like they recreated a Gmail, so
Speaker 2: you search it just like a Gmail and it's all.
Speaker 1: It's so that is what the Internet was made for, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, send it to me. I need to get this
Speaker 3: person on our payroll before the documentary.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Like when I send it to you, you'll
Speaker 2: be like, you're kind of it's a little nerve wracking
Speaker 2: to go into this, like because it's a link that
Speaker 2: you're like, does it looks like a weird link?
Speaker 3: But it just all my information stolen in five seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just it's it's open source and it's the
Speaker 2: most amazing tool. Like you know, you any like any Gmail.
Speaker 2: You can search keywords so you can look up and
Speaker 2: then there's like the starred section is all the files
Speaker 2: that people have like ranked oh, oh oh, it's an
Speaker 2: amazing So if someone creepy that.
Speaker 3: I mean truly power to the people. Like, as as
Speaker 3: tedious as it is and as hard work as it is,
Speaker 3: I feel like it almost gives a little bit of
Speaker 3: power back to the people. I mean, this is allegedly
Speaker 3: a democracy, so it's kind of nice that we can
Speaker 3: have some information in our hands and make up our
Speaker 3: own mind. I mean, that's the biggest thing from where
Speaker 3: wherever I'm sitting is well, do you have an open mind?
Speaker 3: Are you going to do the research and are you
Speaker 3: going to are you going to look? I never care,
Speaker 3: Like if someone was going to make a different decision
Speaker 3: than me or not agree with me, I do not care.
Speaker 3: I love you anyways. As long as we're doing the
Speaker 3: research and we're thinking critically, then okay. But I think
Speaker 3: then you're then you're then you're perfect. I love you.
Speaker 3: But I think it's probably going to be similar to
Speaker 3: that those types of disclosure with JFK and Ebstein. There
Speaker 3: are a couple of things is going on in the
Speaker 3: world that might make it a little different, but that's
Speaker 3: you know, a whole other Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, well to the point though you brought up Virginia earlier,
Speaker 2: right now, when when they saw that craft? Right, and
Speaker 2: I spoke to all the witnesses. I know that you
Speaker 2: did too, because I've watched you do it.
Speaker 1: I watched it.
Speaker 3: Did you pop me my questions? Was that you popping
Speaker 3: my questions?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was me? That was I was actually
Speaker 2: talking to Carlos and all of a sudden, this boom
Speaker 2: mic just came over my head with me, No, this
Speaker 2: is a real story. And I look up and it's
Speaker 2: like the Brazilian TV because the questions I was asking
Speaker 2: were so good that they were like, let's get this
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh nice.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm good for you as you should be,
Speaker 1: as I should be.
Speaker 2: They they brought up the smell, right, the smell of ammonia,
Speaker 2: that smell of sell fur.
Speaker 3: Right, we hear that all the time.
Speaker 2: What now the eyes? Now we go to the girls.
Speaker 2: What do they say they saw they saw a demon?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Red eyes also smelled like fire and brimstone sounds exactly
Speaker 2: like what demons are described like in the in all
Speaker 2: of culture. So could we do you believe that there
Speaker 2: is you? You talked about this merge line. Do you
Speaker 2: believe that what our ancestors were seeing that they might
Speaker 2: have misidentified as gods and angels and demons, and that
Speaker 2: is what we're seeing as aliens.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the case in this specific
Speaker 3: encounter and this specific sighting, but I do think that
Speaker 3: that's possible in other sightings. I don't want to get
Speaker 3: the town of the name wrong, but I think it's Spain.
Speaker 3: These girls were up on a up on a hill
Speaker 3: and they said they saw a craft and the Virgin
Speaker 3: Mary that one I think might be in an angel situation.
Speaker 3: I think that there is a lot of this identification
Speaker 3: between angel and alien, you know, like, are we actually
Speaker 3: all aliens? But I don't think of the virgin case
Speaker 3: the way that these these beings are described, these feel
Speaker 3: extra extraterrestrial to me, in not an angel sense, but
Speaker 3: I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, it's that weird because they looked like demons, but.
Speaker 3: Oh, totally totally.
Speaker 2: And the doctor said it was more like it felt
Speaker 2: like angel. Yeah, but he specifically uses the word angel.
Speaker 2: It was an angel, but it looks like a demon.
Speaker 2: The dichotomy there just blows my mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, and I feel like the
Speaker 3: more we talk to a lot of people and people
Speaker 3: do describe these beings and things that are extra terrestrial
Speaker 3: as peaceful or not. But I think more people do
Speaker 3: describe them as peaceful. The more reviewers that reach out
Speaker 3: to us say that it's all a very calming presence,
Speaker 3: a very peaceful presence. So I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's possible that there's there's multiple out there.
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the right answer, is that we're
Speaker 2: dealing with kind of like a molt like phenomena from
Speaker 2: like plural, right.
Speaker 3: It's so complex, it's so complex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why I think that you know, all
Speaker 2: our ancestors, our ancient cultures, I think they all have
Speaker 2: a little piece of the puzzle. They're probably seeing similar things.
Speaker 2: That's why they kind of created these similar structures. There's
Speaker 2: you know, there's the archaeology not archaeology, like the construction
Speaker 2: of everything is has a similar feel, right. I just
Speaker 2: think that that that somewhere along the line we kind
Speaker 2: of lost We drew these fake borders on the map,
Speaker 2: and because we started speaking different languages, and then we
Speaker 2: forgot what a human race that was united could do.
Speaker 3: So it's so funny. Before I came in here to
Speaker 3: chat with you, I was in the media room with
Speaker 3: Ross and he's probably wrapping up that interview any minute now,
Speaker 3: because you know, I have him scheduled. Oh yeah, I've
Speaker 3: got that man scheduled. But his interview was talking about
Speaker 3: and I was captivated to this and I can't wait
Speaker 3: to finish the rest of it. This man was saying
Speaker 3: that a goddess at the very very very very early history,
Speaker 3: that a goddess was there and she said I'm going
Speaker 3: to make man, and she made She carried a man,
Speaker 3: a baby to turn and gave birth to a man.
Speaker 3: And then that baby's name was Adam. So that is
Speaker 3: Adam from Adam and Eve from the Creation story. So
Speaker 3: very interesting. I was. I was super captivated with what
Speaker 3: he was saying, and I was like, wow, I wonder
Speaker 3: where he's going with this. But yeah, he was telling
Speaker 3: a story that he had heard from all around the world,
Speaker 3: ancient agent folklore or stories that this goddess was actually
Speaker 3: the one who decided to create Adam. So look forward.
Speaker 3: I think we're actually gonna run that as Tuesday's reality Check.
Speaker 3: So we watched it together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very very interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: Is there a out of the past year, Is there
Speaker 2: a case or episode that has really like left the
Speaker 2: lasting impression on you, that something that you maybe didn't
Speaker 2: expect and you were just really surprised by and and
Speaker 2: just it.
Speaker 1: Stuck with you.
Speaker 3: There are two interviews that I love. I love Case
Speaker 3: and Best. He saw a massive UAP while serving Chayenne
Speaker 3: Mountain and he he you know the FBI is involved,
Speaker 3: there's an FBI sketch. I found him extremely credible and
Speaker 3: very well spoken, and I really loved his story and
Speaker 3: his bravery coming forward. And then I also love Martin
Speaker 3: and you Rember Martin's last night same. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: It's escaping me right now. He's in Greenland. He gave
Speaker 3: Ross and our team the exclusive videos of UAPs in Greenland,
Speaker 3: and those videos were amazing, some of the best we
Speaker 3: had seen in such a long time. And he was
Speaker 3: just an awesome person to talk to and work with. Clist,
Speaker 3: Thank you, Martin Cleist. He was incredible to work with
Speaker 3: and talk to. And I liked them because these are
Speaker 3: actual civilians who came forward. I love it when we
Speaker 3: interviewed the really released people, like I think Patrick Jackson
Speaker 3: is a genius, does an amazing theory, like Beatrice Villeral, like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, bow down. I think you're a genius.
Speaker 3: But Cason and Martin, I just felt like these are
Speaker 3: normal people who have had incredible experiences and really cool stories.
Speaker 2: I just interviewed Patrick Jackson and it's actually yeah, great, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's and it's in the queue right now because it's
Speaker 2: it's it's dense, so I have to go through it,
Speaker 2: like because it is dense, it's dense stuff. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: is onto something with the Sphere Network totally.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That was actually one of the hardest episodes that
Speaker 3: I've had to produce. It was it was tough just
Speaker 3: from a in the producer chair, it was tough. You know,
Speaker 3: I understand the story and I and I respect him,
Speaker 3: but there was so many images and graphs and just
Speaker 3: like going back and trying to watch the time codes
Speaker 3: to everything to give the viewer the best experience on
Speaker 3: that episode.
Speaker 2: I am I was, you know, I don't. I watched
Speaker 2: the Area fifty two with Ross during just during Today,
Speaker 2: and Chris asked one of one of these questions that
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what stealing that.
Speaker 3: Queer? Yeah yeah, yeah, I just accused you of that.
Speaker 2: But since you are working with Ross, Yeah, I'm literally
Speaker 2: just indicted myself. Who I hope I'll get called out
Speaker 2: by Joe Rogan on the comedy comedy scene.
Speaker 3: But well, if he gets an anonymous tip, it wasn't me.
Speaker 2: Is there?
Speaker 1: I gotta be serious about this.
Speaker 2: Is is there a story that you could you wish
Speaker 2: you you could un here, that you wish you didn't know,
Speaker 2: that you wish you weren't told.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, uh, that's a great question. I'm trying to think,
Speaker 3: Can I can I can I ask Andy again? Andy? Andy,
Speaker 3: What's what's the story that I wish I don't know?
Speaker 3: I know, and I it's so funny. I don't want
Speaker 3: to get Andy's our executive producer, He's my boss, He's
Speaker 3: the better half of my brain. What is what? What
Speaker 3: is a story that I wish I could unhear from reality.
Speaker 1: Check or just in general, like even if you've been told.
Speaker 3: Okay, it could be just okay easy. I'm not going
Speaker 3: to say any names for any real information. I have
Speaker 3: heard stories that there are programs that are taking kids
Speaker 3: and doing things to them that I don't subscribe to
Speaker 3: or like at all, for government and programs, and I
Speaker 3: am not okay with that. I'm not okay with that.
Speaker 3: So I wish that I could have my blinders on
Speaker 3: and think that kids are off limits and kids are safe.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately the card.
Speaker 1: Is that's not the case.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I think I just lost you. But while I
Speaker 2: while you fix that real quick, I think we've definitely
Speaker 2: seen and here maybe I don't know if you can
Speaker 2: hear me at least.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 2: The the Epstein files.
Speaker 1: One second, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: I can?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. So my AirPods I found them in the
Speaker 3: bottom of my bag and I haven't used them in
Speaker 3: maybe a year, so we like lightning charged them. So
Speaker 3: I'm kind of just like switching back and forth on
Speaker 3: the fly for you. But anyways, where did you lose me?
Speaker 2: So? I think we've sadly come to that, the sad
Speaker 2: realization that like with Epstein, that all that stuff, I
Speaker 2: think that we've obviously just we we live in a
Speaker 2: world where evil exists.
Speaker 3: And if you don't, if if you're not.
Speaker 2: Operating with that in mind at least, then you're operating
Speaker 2: with two hands time behind your back.
Speaker 1: Because the light is the only thing that.
Speaker 2: Will expel the darkness, right, Yeah, Like it's the only
Speaker 2: thing it's the best disinfectant. So as terrible as that is,
Speaker 2: that that that there are government programs and I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that the Epstein stuff because if if
Speaker 2: hear me out on this, and what why why are
Speaker 2: people in the UFO community so so like not willing
Speaker 2: to entertain the idea that the same people that are
Speaker 2: blackmailing the President of the United States, the most powerful individual,
Speaker 2: arguably public facing individual plane, if you're blackmailing that person,
Speaker 2: are you not the deep state? Most likely? And and
Speaker 2: if this whole Epstein network sounds like it was a
Speaker 2: deep state operation, very very intelligence driven.
Speaker 3: And universe, yeah, because this is a global is global
Speaker 3: situation with the with the cabal, the deep state, whatever
Speaker 3: you want to call it.
Speaker 2: There's no borders, right, so why won't why won't the
Speaker 2: community say wait a second? I think those are the
Speaker 2: same motherfuckers that have been suppressing this technology from us
Speaker 2: because they see us, they see they see the life
Speaker 2: as as this this hierarchy that they are above the
Speaker 2: general public and they can mistreat, use us, and and
Speaker 2: and abuse us essentially without any repercussion.
Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, you're yeah, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: I think there's a link.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's honestly, when the Ebstein files came out
Speaker 3: and you start diving into them, it's it's scary. That's
Speaker 3: the link between everything. It's really there.
Speaker 2: And that's a good and that's a good segue here.
Speaker 2: I know we have limited times. I'm trying to just
Speaker 2: bust questions, but when you guys are running, because you
Speaker 2: guys are investigative reporters, right when when you have a story,
Speaker 2: you have to balance the line of entertainment, education.
Speaker 1: And also keeping it engaging. So when putting something like
Speaker 1: that together, and there is maybe friction between, like the
Speaker 1: line which line are we going to go education or entertainment?
Speaker 1: Is there one that usually he wins out.
Speaker 3: No, we're not doing that on a reality check. We're
Speaker 3: not doing that with Ross. And I know that that's
Speaker 3: what happens in the media because I've been an executive
Speaker 3: producer in the media for a decade plus. This show
Speaker 3: is different. Ross is different, This topic is different. We
Speaker 3: are covering the stories that are important. We're not filtering them.
Speaker 3: We're giving all the information. Like I said at the
Speaker 3: beginning of our interview, and this is what's so great
Speaker 3: about the Internet. If you don't like the topic, you
Speaker 3: don't have to watch that episode. And then there's episodes
Speaker 3: that we do that you know, get put up and
Speaker 3: you know, we don't have a lot of traction on them.
Speaker 3: We're like, okay, that's fine, but we stand behind the
Speaker 3: story and we wanted to tell that story. Of course,
Speaker 3: we want to entertain you guys, but it's not really
Speaker 3: about that. It's about the truth and these stories, and
Speaker 3: that's why we do such a long format is to
Speaker 3: tell the whole thing. If you're watching you know, mainstream
Speaker 3: media and the news or your nightly news program, that's clickbait,
Speaker 3: plain and simple. I'm sorry. What they're saying is is
Speaker 3: the clickbait headline. It's not the full story. They're trying
Speaker 3: to grab your attention for however long they can, whether
Speaker 3: you're you're watching to get to get the ratings on TV,
Speaker 3: or if you're clicking on an article that has an
Speaker 3: absolutely outlandish headline, that's not that's not real news. So yes,
Speaker 3: I understand the entertainment angle. I actually understand it too
Speaker 3: well to where I wish I didn't because now I'm
Speaker 3: just really it's really tough for me to like watch
Speaker 3: watch news and have conversations with people about some topics
Speaker 3: just because I you know, I don't want to muddy
Speaker 3: the waters for everybody. You know, we all have our
Speaker 3: our personal duty to do your own research, et cetera.
Speaker 3: But on our show, we're not we're not doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I might make a title card that's a little outlandish,
Speaker 3: like you guys, oh my gosh, everybody ate me Alive
Speaker 3: for the Sun is a portal for aliens, but like,
Speaker 3: come on, like that was a real question in there.
Speaker 3: So the title card and the headline might be a
Speaker 3: little salatious, but I'm not. I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna screw you in the interview.
Speaker 2: We all do it. It's literally part of the game, guys.
Speaker 2: The thumbnail is literally it's the if you're if you
Speaker 2: guys are into fishing, it's the hook, right, and that
Speaker 2: first minute, first minute and a half, that is where
Speaker 2: they either keep you or you don't. So it's that
Speaker 2: is the way the game's played. And that's okay. That
Speaker 2: is okay, It is okay.
Speaker 3: But at least, but at least in the show. Like
Speaker 3: the why I'm so proud of the show is we
Speaker 3: give the full thing. We don't edit it's long form.
Speaker 3: Everything's on the table. It's not like if you're going
Speaker 3: to CNN or somebody Fox for somebody's website, then you're
Speaker 3: not really getting everything, or you're even worse, you're watching
Speaker 3: at night and the reporter is like giving you an
Speaker 3: in and out and like two skewed and talking points
Speaker 3: and then that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they're balancing their time, they're selecting who comes on,
Speaker 2: who gets It's just that's why I think the podcast
Speaker 2: is going to That's where it's going is people are
Speaker 2: are going to podcasts for that kind of stuff. Now
Speaker 2: we're better or worse. That's just the next frontier. And
Speaker 2: and that's I think that's really cool because it's going
Speaker 2: to give rise to just like you know, filmmaking, filmmaking,
Speaker 2: the indie filmmaker has way more tools at their own disposal,
Speaker 2: you know, same with you know, talk shows and having
Speaker 2: this kind of setup. When I was going through college
Speaker 2: in film school, like this was not this wasn't possible,
Speaker 2: Like this is a radio station. So it is really
Speaker 2: cool to see.
Speaker 3: But it's amazing you are the media now. Congratulations.
Speaker 2: It is amazing given all of the recent news, right
Speaker 2: Trump's statements is truth. Is that what you call it
Speaker 2: a truth? Is it just a truth?
Speaker 3: Social? I think it's not a post is it truth?
Speaker 2: Is what do we call it?
Speaker 1: A truth?
Speaker 2: That's so stupid. I don't know. That's so on the
Speaker 2: nose stupid. But okay, whatever. So Trump's truth where he's
Speaker 2: going to do classify things? Obama saying aliens exist, they're
Speaker 2: not in area fifty one. He just needed to throw
Speaker 2: that in all this stuff happening. Where do you see
Speaker 2: us in the next twelve to twenty four months, and
Speaker 2: as a UFO community blue thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think that we are going to get information.
Speaker 3: I think, as I said, we'll get a massive document dump,
Speaker 3: and I think we'll have to go through it with
Speaker 3: a fine tooth, calm and look, I want to be
Speaker 3: very careful because of getting too excited, which I think
Speaker 3: we should be excited. This is exciting news, this is
Speaker 3: forward thinking. There's more to come. We're going to be
Speaker 3: busy and we're going to get information. But I believe
Speaker 3: that the majority of the information that we want is
Speaker 3: hidden within the private sector. So for example, you're you wonder,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you understand this, But for example, if you've
Speaker 3: got a lot of cash and you're trying to hide
Speaker 3: it from the irs or whatever. You're going to go
Speaker 3: to the Bahamas or the Cayman Islands and you're going
Speaker 3: to open an offshore banking account and you're going to
Speaker 3: hide your information there. The government is doing the same
Speaker 3: exact thing with private contractors. Private contractors are doing their
Speaker 3: dirty work. And even if President Trump says release the documents,
Speaker 3: hey Pete Hegseth, it's go time. The private sector is
Speaker 3: not bound by the government. They're not a government entity.
Speaker 3: So are they still going to be holding on to
Speaker 3: the information that we really want? And those are the companies,
Speaker 3: these private entity companies are the ones who really should
Speaker 3: be testifying in front of Congress under oath and saying
Speaker 3: what they know, what they've done, who they've worked for,
Speaker 3: and what they have. I think any single time there
Speaker 3: is a UAP hearing in Congress, I think it's amazing
Speaker 3: because it moves the needle for people, for viewers who
Speaker 3: for people who are interested in are believers or just
Speaker 3: what more information. I don't think it does ject shit
Speaker 3: in the government. I actually know it doesn't. It doesn't
Speaker 3: go anywhere. It's a dog and pony show. They do
Speaker 3: the hearing, have a nice day, no follow up, et cetera,
Speaker 3: et cetera. So will we get information, Yes, it's also
Speaker 3: going to be tough, So not from the private sector,
Speaker 3: I don't think. So that's I think where the good
Speaker 3: information is. But then if all this information does come
Speaker 3: out and we start going through it, how do we
Speaker 3: if there is truth in there, that we find proof
Speaker 3: that they have been in contact with NHI have at
Speaker 3: a an hi craft? Dare I say, an alien body?
Speaker 3: They have these things, so they've known about it. How
Speaker 3: are we expected to trust the government again or these
Speaker 3: definite these sectors of the government like NASA and the
Speaker 3: DoD etc. Who have lied continuously, nothing to see here,
Speaker 3: nothing going on. So does that change our perception of
Speaker 3: government at all? Of these people who are in charge
Speaker 3: of us, who are running the show and making the
Speaker 3: decisions that they said, no aliens, nothing to see here,
Speaker 3: we have no information, you're crazy. And then let's say
Speaker 3: in this documentum we do find something. Does that change
Speaker 3: how we see our government? And sometimes I think maybe
Speaker 3: that's what Trump wants. You know, he said that he
Speaker 3: was going to drain the swamp years ago on during
Speaker 3: his first term. That's kind of what he ran on.
Speaker 3: I think that he sees what's happening now. I think
Speaker 3: he served for four years, said oh I get it now,
Speaker 3: went away for four years, got back into the White
Speaker 3: House and says, now I can really either clean ship
Speaker 3: or figure it out. And you know, Ross and I
Speaker 3: have gone back and forth a whole bunch on this
Speaker 3: on is President Trump the President of disclosure? And I
Speaker 3: actually called him on this out on this in a
Speaker 3: video that we did today that should be up any minute.
Speaker 3: I think, Andy, I think it's online. I said, hey, Ross,
Speaker 3: you know you flipped flop on this, and I put
Speaker 3: out a video on my page this week and I said,
Speaker 3: I still believe that he is the President of disclosure
Speaker 3: and lo and behold this happens. So then Ross did
Speaker 3: say today, I, you know, I was wrong. We do
Speaker 3: think he is the President of disclosure. So I think
Speaker 3: a lot's going to change in the next six months,
Speaker 3: twelve months and beyond. Because once, even once we do
Speaker 3: get this information, we make up our mind of like
Speaker 3: right right, the government, or I believe this, or I
Speaker 3: beleeve that, or we didn't get anything. No matter what,
Speaker 3: our perception of reality and our humanity in the world
Speaker 3: is probably going to change a little bit. So I
Speaker 3: think I think that's going to be along along road
Speaker 3: when the all starts coming down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I definitely think there needs to be I
Speaker 2: think the public just needs to be involved. I think
Speaker 2: I think you you can't classify reality and sadly you
Speaker 2: know who does own who does own the truth? And
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to go by like the
Speaker 2: real conspiracy stuff and go into like Operation mocking Bird
Speaker 2: and c I a embedding you know, people in uh
Speaker 2: in media to put the gobash on stories and to
Speaker 2: make sure that you know, the government didn't have another
Speaker 2: Vietnam kind of situation on their hands. But if you
Speaker 2: want to go that road, you can, you know, And
Speaker 2: and there's just a lot of division down that road.
Speaker 2: But I think if we can overcome that and stop
Speaker 2: like because that's what they want, They want us to
Speaker 2: just keep being of infighting, infighting, infighting, because then we.
Speaker 1: Don't really have time keep it going down exactly.
Speaker 2: So again it brings me back to like this whole
Speaker 2: adage of the Tower of Babbel, what a united humanity
Speaker 2: could do. And I think disclosure might be the only
Speaker 2: bipartisan thing and not just bipartisan but whatever the word
Speaker 2: for global, like, I think there's a global position that
Speaker 2: if we are not alone in the universe, that information
Speaker 2: belongs to every single human on the planet, and it
Speaker 2: affects them all equally because it changes how you see yourself,
Speaker 2: how you see yourself when you stand out there all
Speaker 2: alone on the mountaintop and look up in the sky, right,
Speaker 2: So it affects everybody the exact same amount. It's the
Speaker 2: only thing that I think actually can unite the world
Speaker 2: in a good way.
Speaker 3: It might be optimistic, I agree with you, but there's
Speaker 3: one thing that I can say for episolutes certain is
Speaker 3: that the government wants to control the narrative.
Speaker 2: You're well, yeah again, Yeah, we could go down that
Speaker 2: road and say they're not. They're not gonna let us like,
Speaker 2: you know, everything and that, and I don't expect them to. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I knew we I think we all knew this was
Speaker 2: gonna be a tough fight, and it was gonna be
Speaker 2: a kind of a tug of war. Go back, go,
Speaker 2: you know, you think you're losing, and then you you know,
Speaker 2: you gain on you gain on your opponent, and you know,
Speaker 2: ever since twenty seventeen, and I know you're kind of
Speaker 2: newer to the topic. But you know, before twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: any one of the stories that's happened over the past,
Speaker 2: like say eight years, any one of these stories would
Speaker 2: have been the story for multiple years before, right, Like
Speaker 2: any of Jake Barber coming forward twenty five years ago,
Speaker 2: that would have been it, right, that would have been it.
Speaker 2: And we're so blessed right now that we've we're standing
Speaker 2: on the shoulders of giants like Stanton Friedman, like George Knapp, like.
Speaker 1: So many more. I'm drawing like Philip Corso, Cordell.
Speaker 3: Still Gary Nolan as a genius.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's yeah, but we they're they're the people
Speaker 2: that got us to the to the to the point
Speaker 2: now where this is being taken seriously again, we need
Speaker 2: to remember them. And I think, you know, Ross, being
Speaker 2: from a mix of like old media and new media,
Speaker 2: I think he's a perfect person. Just yeah, yourself, it's
Speaker 2: just a great combination. Last night, is humanity actually ready
Speaker 2: for disclosure?
Speaker 1: Are you ready think so?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, I think humanity is as well. I think
Speaker 3: after the COVID nineteen pandemic that people had to do
Speaker 3: a lot of self reflecting and thinking about what they believe. Well,
Speaker 3: this is what I hope. But I think the humanity
Speaker 3: of the pandemic was a turning point in critical thinking
Speaker 3: in the world. So I think that if you can
Speaker 3: critically think about that situation, then you are okay with
Speaker 3: knowing what humanity means. If that makes any sense at all, What.
Speaker 1: Would it change for you? Like what are you ready?
Speaker 2: Like fundamentally, are you ready to maybe like, uh, raise
Speaker 2: kids in a world where we're not We're not alone?
Speaker 2: Like I think these are really really poignant questions in
Speaker 2: the coming.
Speaker 3: Totally because you know what, at the end of every
Speaker 3: single day, no matter what, I think that you need
Speaker 3: to know what's important to you and what makes you
Speaker 3: your life real. Because if we're all going to die
Speaker 3: one day, what's going to be important to you at
Speaker 3: the end of the day. It's going to be your
Speaker 3: family and whatever happens with humanity, whatever the answer is,
Speaker 3: we are alone, we aren't alone. I think as long
Speaker 3: as you know who you are and you are happy
Speaker 3: with yourself and you can look in the mirror and say, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm a good person and I did my best. I'm
Speaker 3: doing my best with my family, I think that core
Speaker 3: is what's actually important. And as long as that, as
Speaker 3: long as that is strong and that is solid, you
Speaker 3: can weather any sort of information that comes because you
Speaker 3: know what's actually going on inside your heart and your home.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's really really amazing. So that this this
Speaker 2: big UFO that Ross is always talking about, it just yes,
Speaker 2: this big UFO that Ross is always talking about. I
Speaker 2: haven't really been keeping there's so much news always. I
Speaker 2: heard that like Burlison had said some thing about something similar.
Speaker 2: Is that the same same thing? This craft in Oklahoma
Speaker 2: or se se Seoul?
Speaker 3: Where was it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, I cannot confirm or deny. Oh oh okay, I
Speaker 3: like that, but I can say that I was on
Speaker 3: the phone with reper Lissens people this week and I've
Speaker 3: been yeah, he's great. And then I've been texting with
Speaker 3: his media guy, who is amazing. And hopefully we are
Speaker 3: doing an interview on Tuesday. We were supposed to have
Speaker 3: one yesterday, but there's just absolutely way too much going
Speaker 3: on and we obviously we want to do a full
Speaker 3: hour with for listen, and that is one of the
Speaker 3: potential talking points that hopefully I can get out of
Speaker 3: you set up for you guys on Tuesday, if I
Speaker 3: don't have it on Tuesday, please do not kill me.
Speaker 3: I promise, I'm working on.
Speaker 1: It all right.
Speaker 2: Well, you're at the Conscious Life expat right now, surrounded
Speaker 2: by researchers, experiencers, and insiders. Does it does it feel
Speaker 2: like something is accelerating? Like, does it feel? What's the
Speaker 2: feel in the air there.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of sense, a lot of fragrance. There's like, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like fragrances, Like there's incense everywhere, there's candles everywhere. There's
Speaker 3: beautiful soaps and vitamins and all this stuff going on.
Speaker 3: So there's crystals everywhere. So it's beautiful. So so it's.
Speaker 2: I know, it's exactly what you mean. It's so funny.
Speaker 2: There's like an alleen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sensory overload. Everywhere I look. I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: bright colors, this, that, and I'm such a like I'm
Speaker 3: wearing white, black, blue, red, pink, no patterns like, soeverywhere
Speaker 3: I look, I'm just like assaulted with beautiful things paintings.
Speaker 3: But you know, the vibe is great. Everyone is so kind.
Speaker 3: The energy here is amazing. People are extremely excited. I
Speaker 3: am looking forward to seeing some of the panels and
Speaker 3: of course, Ross's keynoting tomorrow and we will record the
Speaker 3: entire thing and post it up for everyone. So I
Speaker 3: just think it's a beautiful way for people to come
Speaker 3: together and explore a different side of humanity. I have
Speaker 3: not been to this conference before, so it's this is
Speaker 3: all all new to me.
Speaker 2: I've never been to a conference before, like a UFO
Speaker 2: one no oh oh shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Look, I'm a Vegas girl. I grew up
Speaker 3: in Vegas. If you think something's gonna shock me, you're wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna see anything here.
Speaker 2: Networking. The networking is just absolutely like Contact in the
Speaker 2: Desert and Conscious Life, all these things are such really
Speaker 2: what I find because I'm like you. I was literally
Speaker 2: in the media room for four days at Contact in
Speaker 2: the Desert just.
Speaker 1: Doing interviews like I didn't, Yeah I had.
Speaker 2: I did introductions for people like Chris bled so I
Speaker 2: introduced him and I didn't even stay for it. I
Speaker 2: had to believe because I had like eighteen interviews. I
Speaker 2: had to get to SOT. That's I feel that. I
Speaker 2: I think I had four interviews for Ross today. I
Speaker 2: kind of felt bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's fun though, It's it really is fun because you
Speaker 2: get to network, And that's what again, that's that's yeah,
Speaker 2: that's great. That's really the time for me where I
Speaker 2: get to reflect and think about like, okay, you know,
Speaker 2: like with and with someone like like Steve Bassett, as
Speaker 2: many times as I talk to him, it doesn't get
Speaker 2: boring to me.
Speaker 1: It's just I find him, you know.
Speaker 2: I love talking with people about this subject to the
Speaker 2: point where you know, again, people like the general public,
Speaker 2: they get annoyed with it. They like you can see
Speaker 2: their eyes glaze back, and it's like, how can this
Speaker 2: not be how how do you give a fuck if
Speaker 2: the patrin it's win when it's there's UFOs out there,
Speaker 2: Like I I get why, I get why you care
Speaker 2: why they win, but I don't know why it affects people.
Speaker 1: And like that's we had to talk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a similar conversation after contact in the
Speaker 3: desert because you know, rot Ross was there and I
Speaker 3: had a million interview scheduled for him there. But we
Speaker 3: watched our coverage of it obviously and what the respect
Speaker 3: that we did gave to the topic and the people
Speaker 3: who were there. And then we watched like a clip
Speaker 3: that CNN had done and they like sent a reporter
Speaker 3: in with like an alien on his head and they
Speaker 3: were like you believe in UFOs and it was like
Speaker 3: a big jokey shit thing. And I'm like, oh, so
Speaker 3: we're just like disrespectful now, got it? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know it's very annoying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just be nice, everybody, Just be nice.
Speaker 2: The X Files music is so like it's it's it's
Speaker 2: not appropriate anymore.
Speaker 1: It's like it's not it's.
Speaker 2: Just it's the stupidest.
Speaker 3: Change So change my ring tone?
Speaker 2: Yes, well no, no, personally it can mean whenever, but
Speaker 2: like when they've.
Speaker 3: Been twenty twenty six, you just told me it was
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. We don't have ring tones anymore. My
Speaker 3: phone is on doing noster as I know yours is
Speaker 3: as well, because I've been texting you and it says silence, silence.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I I always schedule everything, so it puts
Speaker 2: me into a like a don't bother me mode whatever
Speaker 2: that's called. Yeah, yeah, here's yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Am I missing anything? Am I missing anything? Am I missing?
Speaker 2: Is there anything I didn't ask you that you want
Speaker 2: to be asked? I've never asked anyone that.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you know what is so ridiculous? I
Speaker 3: actually was asked that the other day, So you just
Speaker 3: copied a third person's question here in this short time
Speaker 3: that we've been together, and I.
Speaker 2: Didn't Carlos Smithcia, so that's a deep cut.
Speaker 3: I didn't have an answer, and I was like, I
Speaker 3: literally was like, I don't know. And then people started
Speaker 3: making fun of me on X, which please stop doing that, people.
Speaker 3: I swear, I still make fun of me, but they're
Speaker 3: making me like, oh, she didn't have an answer, and
Speaker 3: then I eventually said like, oh, my dogs, like I
Speaker 3: have dogs, which is so so stupid. Everyone has dogs,
Speaker 3: but I and I said to myself, I have to
Speaker 3: think of an answer to that question. And then here
Speaker 3: I am, dear the headlights being asked that question again,
Speaker 3: and I to work answer.
Speaker 2: What's it feel like to work with the guy that
Speaker 2: like work like work next to the guy or with
Speaker 2: the guy like who's brought guys like David Crush forward,
Speaker 2: And I mean, that's gotta be kind of superb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to make him like CASKI I'm not
Speaker 2: like he's not great greater than you, just because.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah he is, Are you kidding me? I'm writing
Speaker 3: Ross's coattails into the sunset, my friend, I trust me.
Speaker 3: I understand how this is. Yeah, I understand how this works.
Speaker 3: I can't even tell you the amount of people that
Speaker 3: DM me who are like, hey, oh my gosh, like
Speaker 3: we think you're great. What's Ross's phone number? And I'm like,
Speaker 3: dang it. Yeah, well I thought you wanted to talk
Speaker 3: to me, But then how I tricked you? And here
Speaker 3: I am with the gate keeper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the gatekeeper of Frost.
Speaker 3: Yeah gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, you guys came onto the show
Speaker 3: to see Ross and you're stuck with me. Sorry, tricked you.
Speaker 2: Actually a pretty funny person. It's I wasn't expecting how
Speaker 2: much you were to but you are. I don't want
Speaker 2: to keep you too long.
Speaker 1: I know you're at I want you to go enjoy
Speaker 1: this conference.
Speaker 3: But yeah, because it's my time. It's six thirty, so
Speaker 3: I have a Margarita calling my name. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 3: I could if you want to chat any longer.
Speaker 2: Sure, I was goeta, No, no, I was going to say,
Speaker 2: I'd love to have you in Boston. Maybe maybe we
Speaker 2: could bring pay to bring Ross here too and make
Speaker 2: it worth everyone's time. Uh, someday, right, I know he'll
Speaker 2: priab you back around, you know, flying through the country.
Speaker 1: Uh, contact happens.
Speaker 2: So maybe we could put something together and really sit
Speaker 2: down and break break everything down and totally.
Speaker 3: And I would love to go to that part of
Speaker 3: the country again when I you know, we were just
Speaker 3: in DC altogether, but I would love to bring Ross
Speaker 3: and Doors Doors off with him. I think it would
Speaker 3: be super fun and just.
Speaker 1: Very storied area. This East Coast is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: What can people where? I mean, where can people find
Speaker 2: you on? X?
Speaker 1: Uh? You know, writing a book? Like everyone what's going on?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I wish because I love reading so much.
Speaker 3: I would love to write a book. But no, I'm
Speaker 3: not writing a book. But you know, I'm on I'm
Speaker 3: on YouTube now. We started my own channel. We are
Speaker 3: posting content. I'm making videos and working on all that
Speaker 3: and just app producer Megan and a lot of the
Speaker 3: stuff that we posted on Ross's rosschel Tardvests page we
Speaker 3: collaborate with me there. And then yeah, I'm on ex
Speaker 3: producer Megan as well. And you know, we're working on
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff for me. I don't know if
Speaker 3: I'm ready to say what it is, but I've also
Speaker 3: tricked some people into uh talking with me, So there's
Speaker 3: a little hint.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's any any like any big big ones.
Speaker 3: I talked to today about Antarctica.
Speaker 2: Antarctica. That is an interesting topic. I know some several
Speaker 2: people that would be interested in hearing about that. Well,
Speaker 2: all right, yeah, please do please do, please do. You've
Speaker 2: been such a treat to talk with. Super funny. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I really, like I said, we're trying to bring the
Speaker 2: production value up on YouTube. For a long time, I didn't,
Speaker 2: you know, alp the podcasts and bringing video. Yep, there
Speaker 2: out video for everybody, and I didn't. I was I'm
Speaker 2: not going to get into that anyway. Spotify did promise
Speaker 2: it at one time and they screwed everybody. So Apple's
Speaker 2: finally doing it. I'm so excited. So God, thanks for
Speaker 2: being a part of this. I'd love to have you
Speaker 2: guys in studium. Thank you so much to all the
Speaker 2: people behind you that are also made it possible. And
Speaker 2: for Conscious Life Expo for giving you a road Andy
Speaker 2: and Nick and Conscious Life. Uh, people can head over
Speaker 2: to that the website.
Speaker 1: I'll put it in the link description of the Bellow.
Speaker 2: All right, I think we lost her again, so we
Speaker 2: can just probably wrap up and everyone, thank you for
Speaker 2: for watching. Make sure to like, share, subscribe again, we
Speaker 2: are trying to push the videos.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's okay.
Speaker 2: You there.
Speaker 3: I'm here.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm just saying hi. You're trying. You're trying to
Speaker 3: say goodbye to me, and I'm like, I'm back, mofo.
Speaker 2: I'm back, bitches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here we are.
Speaker 2: You're truly, like I said, you're truly, You're truly one
Speaker 2: of a And again, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'll put all the descriptions.
Speaker 2: In the below for the podcast and again for everyone
Speaker 2: watching on YouTube. Again, we're trying to kick this thing
Speaker 2: up and even those even those numbers out because very
Speaker 2: very uh like ranked on the podcast side, but uh
Speaker 2: with YouTube, it was it's like ninety percent of people
Speaker 2: aren't subscribed. It's the struggle is real, uh, with the
Speaker 2: video side that we're definitely trying to even that out.
Speaker 2: So thanks for being a part of that, Megan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, thank you for having me. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: You're lovely, all.
Speaker 2: Right, everyone else, stay humble, stay one, stay vigilant.
Speaker 1: M I'm going to end it.
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