“Ready Your People” -Pastors BRIEFED on Coming UFO Disclosure? | BEYOND REDACTED [Pt. 2]

0:08 Speaker 1: This is like, okay, again, let's operate on the idea

0:13 Speaker 1: or on the Let's just play the hypothetical out. Let's

0:17 Speaker 1: say that these dudes are one hundred percent telling the truth.

0:20 Speaker 1: What is about to occur? That seems like things that

0:24 Speaker 1: we've been warned about, Like doesn't this seem like too familiar?

0:29 Speaker 1: Like Project Bluebeam kind of familiar.

0:32 Speaker 2: It just seems like they're trying to like do anything

0:35 Speaker 2: to retain their their religion, Like if the truth is

0:39 Speaker 2: the truth, how could you denounce it? If they have

0:42 Speaker 2: actual evidence that that that you know, religion isn't a thing,

0:47 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, And they're trying to like soften

0:49 Speaker 2: them up to it, and they're still refusing to believe.

0:52 Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be like.

0:54 Speaker 3: The only way they can integrate this in with their

0:57 Speaker 3: and within their faith, the only way they can do

0:59 Speaker 3: it is through this story, which is what this conspiracy

1:03 Speaker 3: is the only way and this is what ontological shock

1:06 Speaker 3: looks like from right.

1:08 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was going to say, because Okay,

1:12 Speaker 1: now forgive me, and I've said this, I've had to

1:15 Speaker 1: say this a lot lately, but you know, out to

1:18 Speaker 1: the UFO community, forgive me for asking this this question here,

1:24 Speaker 1: But when the pastors are talking about they are coming

1:33 Speaker 1: going to come out, who are they talking about? Are

1:37 Speaker 1: they talking about the Trump administration and Burleson? Because if

1:45 Speaker 1: they're saying that Burleson is telling them this, briefing them nomness,

1:49 Speaker 1: that means the deep state is going to be the

1:52 Speaker 1: ones to disclose, and they're going to disclose the They're

1:57 Speaker 1: going to disclose before Trump and the White House some

2:03 Speaker 1: fake bullshit narrative to beat them to the punch. That's

2:06 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing. They can't be both. They can't be

2:10 Speaker 1: talking about the Trump administration being the one who's going

2:13 Speaker 1: to be putting out this bullshit that is demonic. So

2:19 Speaker 1: is anyone else seeing where I'm going with this, like

2:21 Speaker 1: or asking the question, because who's about to disclose? What

2:26 Speaker 1: is my next? Is my question?

2:28 Speaker 3: Like?

2:28 Speaker 1: Who's who's the day in this situation?

2:33 Speaker 2: Uh, they're saying the one world government that they're trying

2:36 Speaker 2: to build and the one world religion or whatever, that's

2:39 Speaker 2: what they're trying to say that is coming, That's what

2:41 Speaker 2: they're gearing.

2:42 Speaker 1: These pastors are saying that Trump and all that, you know,

2:47 Speaker 1: all this talk about like UFHO disclosure coming out. That

2:50 Speaker 1: means what these guys are saying is the Trump administration

2:54 Speaker 1: knows that the deep State is now going to disclose first,

2:57 Speaker 1: and they're going to try to disclose something that discredits Christianity.

3:03 Speaker 1: And so are we going to have a battle of disclosures,

3:07 Speaker 1: because that's going to get very confusing.

3:09 Speaker 2: I think he's lumping Trump in with the deep State

3:11 Speaker 2: and with the One World government. I think he's including Trump. No,

3:15 Speaker 2: I agree with you, because the whole world against the guys.

3:18 Speaker 1: If Berlson is the one telling them this, he would

3:20 Speaker 1: not be saying that about Trump.

3:22 Speaker 3: He loves Trump, isn't saying any of this stuff. None

3:26 Speaker 3: of this is coming from Bolson. This is coming from

3:28 Speaker 3: six very conspiratorial, pretty wacky preachers who believe in aliens

3:35 Speaker 3: and Christianity. I guess I can't call him too wacky

3:37 Speaker 3: because I believe in in a bit of both actually,

3:40 Speaker 3: But but they are. They've gone pretty hardcore on that,

3:45 Speaker 3: on the sort of demonic element, and they've written books

3:48 Speaker 3: about it, and it's it's pretty out there if you

3:51 Speaker 3: read I've read some of the material in those books,

3:53 Speaker 3: and you know, Fallen Angels, and it's just you know,

3:57 Speaker 3: it's like end of the world like on agedon kind

4:01 Speaker 3: of thing, and so that's what they believe. Suddenly, oh

4:05 Speaker 3: the you know, the government's going to start disclosing about

4:08 Speaker 3: the existence of non human intelligence. It's kind of confirming

4:11 Speaker 3: what we've been saying. I mean, it's not the same,

4:14 Speaker 3: but we're going to make it sound like it's the same.

4:16 Speaker 3: So they've been that's why you know, bullism wouldn't say

4:19 Speaker 3: I didn't say any of that stuff. That's what they

4:22 Speaker 3: might believe. I've just said, yes, there is some information

4:25 Speaker 3: coming about out about UAP, and it's looking like, you know,

4:29 Speaker 3: there is evidence in the existence of n HI. This

4:32 Speaker 3: is them basically selling their books and demonstrating, you know,

4:37 Speaker 3: how they're integrating it into their into their you know, Christianity,

4:41 Speaker 3: Christianity or the version of it.

4:44 Speaker 1: That's a good way.

4:45 Speaker 3: That's how I see it.

4:46 Speaker 1: That that's a that's a fair way to put it. So,

4:49 Speaker 1: but I mean, did we not kind of see this coming,

4:53 Speaker 1: Like do we not kind of see this coming when

4:56 Speaker 1: like a few years back, I think it was the

4:58 Speaker 1: Pope said like we would baptize a non an alien

5:05 Speaker 1: like if it if it came down because it's also

5:06 Speaker 1: a child of God, and YadA, YadA, YadA. What if

5:14 Speaker 1: what if the truth is that they these things are

5:17 Speaker 1: whatever they are, if that they did ever hand in

5:20 Speaker 1: our creation, and that like creation myth, the fabric of it.

5:26 Speaker 1: Amongst several civilizations, almost all civilizations are that someone descended

5:33 Speaker 1: from the heavens, played around with genetics, altered you know,

5:40 Speaker 1: humanity to do a certain job, taught us civilization. You know, agriculture,

5:49 Speaker 1: you know, every all of it, alchemy, all of it.

5:52 Speaker 1: And so if there is some truth to that, I

5:57 Speaker 1: think ontological shit isn't even a word that could describe

6:03 Speaker 1: what we might be up against in reality. Because have

6:07 Speaker 1: you ever seen when someone's real, when someone's existence, someone's

6:13 Speaker 1: the very fabric of the why they wake up in

6:15 Speaker 1: the morning, when that is, when that is broken in somebody,

6:19 Speaker 1: have you ever seen what happens to them? They just

6:23 Speaker 1: let themselves go, They become a shell. Yeah, So there

6:28 Speaker 1: is a fine line in what we have the job

6:32 Speaker 1: that is at hand. So you have to include religion

6:36 Speaker 1: and religious leaders to some degree. So it's like not

6:40 Speaker 1: like crazy for me to think that they'd want to

6:43 Speaker 1: get on board, they'd want the Vatican on board. How

6:46 Speaker 1: do we merge these two ideas? Well, It's always kind

6:50 Speaker 1: of struck me as easy because by definition, aren't angels

6:53 Speaker 1: and demons non human intelligence? Isn't God by definition a

6:59 Speaker 1: non human intelligence? Right again, it's it's it's it's for me,

7:06 Speaker 1: it's all semantics. It's the words, the lens you're looking through, right,

7:11 Speaker 1: the God said let there be light, or out of

7:15 Speaker 1: nothing came everything, the big bang. You're saying the same

7:19 Speaker 1: fucking thing. You're just phrasing it differently.

7:24 Speaker 3: Well, I think, yeah, I could see that, but there's

7:27 Speaker 3: there's also a difference between a god and a creator

7:30 Speaker 3: and an extratrensure extraterrestrial being, right, non human intelligence? Oh yeah,

7:35 Speaker 3: not saying it's it their et, but it probably is

7:38 Speaker 3: most likely could be as live as one of them.

7:41 Speaker 3: Yeah right, it could be one of right, But but

7:46 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that any of these are creators, and

7:49 Speaker 3: and religion is something different. We need to feel like, okay,

7:52 Speaker 3: that we were created by someone who that and we

7:54 Speaker 3: need to serve them or you know. But this is

7:56 Speaker 3: not necessarily what it's about. It's but for some people

7:59 Speaker 3: it is like, how do I deal with this new

8:02 Speaker 3: reality and disclosure? Heaven? And hell, good and evil angels, demons,

8:08 Speaker 3: going back to those kind of you know, old archetypes.

8:12 Speaker 3: I think some people need that. I think if you

8:14 Speaker 3: brought this to most churches, it wouldn't be as such

8:17 Speaker 3: a big deal. I mean to some maybe more evangelical,

8:21 Speaker 3: there would be certainly an adjustment. I think we just

8:23 Speaker 3: saw a really small sample here of what I've heard

8:27 Speaker 3: is more Pentecostal gone to a Pentecostal service.

8:33 Speaker 1: Scientology. Scientology would like they would, they would come out

8:38 Speaker 1: of their castle. Finally, I think they'd be like, see, guys,

8:42 Speaker 1: we told you.

8:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

8:44 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're meeting at the target. I told you, well.

8:48 Speaker 2: I mean, look at look at the pope's rope. He's

8:50 Speaker 2: got an alien on his robe. That's he's got an

8:53 Speaker 2: alien on his rope.

8:53 Speaker 4: The pope.

8:54 Speaker 2: I have seen that.

8:55 Speaker 1: What yeah, what are you talking about? You said that twice? Now, Oh,

9:00 Speaker 1: I've never seen this alien on the pope's robe? Is

9:02 Speaker 1: it like stitched in?

9:05 Speaker 2: Hold on, I'll hold up.

9:08 Speaker 1: So while he's doing that, Dan, what happened to you?

9:13 Speaker 1: And like, I guess this is the first time we've

9:14 Speaker 1: ever actually interacted. Not the pivot too hard, but you

9:19 Speaker 1: want to, I want to. If you would, you want

9:21 Speaker 1: to share a little bit about your experience.

9:24 Speaker 3: I'm happy to. I was just conscious of the sound issue.

9:27 Speaker 3: I can hear you.

9:28 Speaker 1: Guys actually gone right now. Whatever you're doing right now.

9:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't changed anything. It's just yeah, the system.

9:36 Speaker 3: But so yeah, this was Vermont in twenty fifteen. I

9:41 Speaker 3: was staying at a hotel and was out having a cigarette.

9:47 Speaker 3: I was a smoker back then. I quit two years ago,

9:51 Speaker 3: although I know I smoke vapes nicotine normally, but I

9:53 Speaker 3: was out having a cigarette. As a smoker, you spend

9:57 Speaker 3: a lot of time outside and there's a lot more

9:58 Speaker 3: settings from the will spent time outside, and so I

10:01 Speaker 3: was out there every night. And one night at this hotel,

10:04 Speaker 3: I looked up and I saw a star and it

10:07 Speaker 3: was brighter than what I usually see with looking at

10:11 Speaker 3: a star. And it was kind of early too. It

10:14 Speaker 3: was about eight thirty, almost summer, sort of, you know,

10:18 Speaker 3: end of mid May. And looked at the star and

10:22 Speaker 3: it started coming getting bigger, and I just thought it

10:27 Speaker 3: must be a plane, helicopter, something else, you know, But

10:31 Speaker 3: then it started getting bigger and bigger, and I realized

10:34 Speaker 3: it was getting closer, and as it got bigger, it

10:38 Speaker 3: became more defined. So it basically a copper orange color

10:45 Speaker 3: surrounding sort of an oval yellow orb is what it

10:49 Speaker 3: really how I define it now. I didn't really even

10:51 Speaker 3: have that language back then. And it came first. It

10:57 Speaker 3: came about five hundred yards away, and I'm a golfer,

11:01 Speaker 3: so I sort of talk about the distance as a

11:03 Speaker 3: golfer ward. So Part five distance is about five hundred

11:06 Speaker 3: yards was how far away it was, And then came

11:09 Speaker 3: as close as one hundred and fifty yards or a

11:11 Speaker 3: Part three distance, and came in for three to five seconds,

11:17 Speaker 3: and then went back out to the five hundred yard

11:20 Speaker 3: and then back into the one hundred and fifty yard

11:23 Speaker 3: and I'm basically fixated, but in fear. I am in shock,

11:29 Speaker 3: I think at the time. And then it goes back

11:34 Speaker 3: out to the par five and then shoots off right

11:38 Speaker 3: between the mountains towards Burlington, Vermont, which was sort of

11:42 Speaker 3: north This would be northwest, and I got so after

11:48 Speaker 3: that happened, I raced up to my room to get

11:52 Speaker 3: my iPhone camera. This would have been an iPhone five six.

11:55 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure at that time I was able

11:57 Speaker 3: to get off four shots, but it had gone further away.

12:02 Speaker 3: It was probably in between above the mountain, just kind

12:06 Speaker 3: of left up above the mountain. I got off four

12:08 Speaker 3: shots and that was it. At the time, I called

12:15 Speaker 3: my girlfriend at the time with my wife now, I

12:18 Speaker 3: told her about it, and she was shocked. I mean

12:23 Speaker 3: she believed me. And I fell asleep and I had

12:28 Speaker 3: this extremely strange, like fourteen thirteen fourteen hours sleep. I'm

12:33 Speaker 3: someone that sleeps seven to eight hours, you know, pretty normal,

12:36 Speaker 3: but I had this really deep sleep and then I

12:40 Speaker 3: woke up kind of like this jetlag feeling and if

12:43 Speaker 3: you ever travel to Australia or somewhere far away, and

12:45 Speaker 3: that really heavy grogginess of jet lag. And I wake

12:49 Speaker 3: up and opened my eyes and I can't see. So

12:53 Speaker 3: I lost vision for at least ninety minutes. It's really

12:59 Speaker 3: hard to kind of assessed the time because I was panicking.

13:03 Speaker 3: I was high anxiety. I had to check out of

13:05 Speaker 3: the room at eleven o'clock and I remember, like, what

13:08 Speaker 3: the f am I going to do? I can't see,

13:11 Speaker 3: So I'm basically walking around my room, you know, trying

13:15 Speaker 3: to find my phone, trying to just like what's going on.

13:19 Speaker 3: Looked in the mirror, can't see like pitch black. Ninety

13:25 Speaker 3: minutes about site came back, not just like turning on

13:29 Speaker 3: a light, but gradually, I would say, over about two minutes,

13:33 Speaker 3: my vision came back. I looked in the mirror and

13:37 Speaker 3: I was just sweating. It was really I mean, I

13:40 Speaker 3: was really afraid, because I mean I was like, Okay,

13:42 Speaker 3: what is this? Is this a tumor? Is this a seizure?

13:46 Speaker 3: What could this have been?

13:47 Speaker 2: Right?

13:49 Speaker 3: So I go to the doctor. It's a local It

13:53 Speaker 3: was my local family doctor associated with Dartmouth College, where

13:57 Speaker 3: I was working at the time and part time working

14:00 Speaker 3: there and part time working on someone else somewhere else.

14:04 Speaker 3: I work in psychology. I was a researcher and a

14:06 Speaker 3: teacher and saw the doctor and I didn't tell him

14:10 Speaker 3: about kind of what I'd seen the night before. I

14:13 Speaker 3: was already obviously making the connection, like what happened there

14:16 Speaker 3: could be related to this. Now if that something like

14:19 Speaker 3: that happened now, of course it's related. But back then,

14:23 Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking about UFOs and biological effects. I've never

14:27 Speaker 3: heard of any of that, but I know that what

14:30 Speaker 3: ell I mean, it was a blinding light that was

14:33 Speaker 3: very close to me. So I saw the doctor and

14:37 Speaker 3: I told him my symptoms and he said, well, you know,

14:40 Speaker 3: have you been in the sun recently. There's this thing

14:42 Speaker 3: called sun blindness where you can you know, have you

14:45 Speaker 3: been skiing? And it was just May, there was no snow.

14:48 Speaker 3: I had not been in the sun. And he basically said, well,

14:52 Speaker 3: you know, maybe it was you know, maybe he had

14:56 Speaker 3: god what he say it was like a virus or

14:58 Speaker 3: he threw out a co of things that he should

15:00 Speaker 3: be you said, but don't worry. I think he basically

15:02 Speaker 3: thought that, like it was like a sort of a dream,

15:07 Speaker 3: you know, like you didn't really wake up, you know,

15:10 Speaker 3: but I know it wasn't a dream, just like when

15:13 Speaker 3: you wake up and you know you're awake. It's not

15:15 Speaker 3: like you know, I've never had.

15:19 Speaker 1: For me, there's always like, yeah, there's always a very

15:21 Speaker 1: clear difference. I've never had a bleed over. M h.

15:26 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Vito. Have you ever read

15:28 Speaker 1: a bleedover?

15:29 Speaker 2: What is that a bleedover from?

15:31 Speaker 5: What?

15:31 Speaker 1: Do you think? You're still in a dream?

15:34 Speaker 2: No, because I have that weird ability to just like

15:37 Speaker 2: change it, like I know I'm dreaming no matter what,

15:39 Speaker 2: no matter how deep. Yeah, it's weird.

15:43 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to lucid dream, but I also don't

15:46 Speaker 1: see what fun it would be because if you know

15:49 Speaker 1: it's a dream, you also know it's not real. So like,

15:53 Speaker 1: I just I know why people like it.

15:55 Speaker 2: It's when the dream starts going south, like if you're

15:57 Speaker 2: falling or like GM being chased by zombie or something

16:00 Speaker 2: stupid in the dream.

16:01 Speaker 1: I just that shit ever happens to me, So I don't, like,

16:04 Speaker 1: I don't need to fight it. I don't dream about zombies.

16:08 Speaker 1: I think if you do, you might need a therapist.

16:11 Speaker 2: Probably.

16:13 Speaker 1: I don't think it's healthy because first off, they're really

16:15 Speaker 1: not real. So we're getting off topics.

16:19 Speaker 2: What's real nowadays?

16:20 Speaker 1: Man, Well we're getting off topic. But so, yeah, you've

16:24 Speaker 1: never had a bleedover? That's interesting, good, but bleedover? Like,

16:28 Speaker 1: there are people who have this thing like sleep paralysis

16:31 Speaker 1: where they'll be like stuck in their bed and but

16:36 Speaker 1: this is the thing and and again, I know you

16:41 Speaker 1: have more to tell, and I apologize for for stopping here,

16:45 Speaker 1: but sleep paralysis specifically is never sat well with me

16:50 Speaker 1: in terms of clinically being able to say that that's

16:55 Speaker 1: not actually happening when every single person that it happens

17:01 Speaker 1: to sees the same thing you're telling me. Every single

17:05 Speaker 1: brain comes up with this hag. Every brain like is

17:10 Speaker 1: that not without knowing each other, they all come up

17:14 Speaker 1: with this fucking goblin that comes and jumps on your

17:16 Speaker 1: chest and like screams into your fucking face. Like I

17:20 Speaker 1: it's like having the same DMT experience. How do we

17:23 Speaker 1: all have how do we all see an entity? And

17:28 Speaker 1: why is it there? Or someone who works in mental

17:32 Speaker 1: health or whatever, the same person that can't really describe

17:36 Speaker 1: what consciousness is because nobody can. They're the one saying

17:40 Speaker 1: that you're this is a symptom of some sort of

17:43 Speaker 1: like psychosis or like, I just I feel very uneasy

17:47 Speaker 1: when human beings try to definitively say something about a topic,

17:57 Speaker 1: which is so like when it comes to dreaming and

18:02 Speaker 1: that I just don't think we have all the answers,

18:05 Speaker 1: and I think we pretend we do. But like I said,

18:08 Speaker 1: those same people can't tell you what consciousness actually is.

18:12 Speaker 1: So how do we know that, Like when someone goes

18:16 Speaker 1: into sleep proalysis, their brain isn't like entangled into some

18:21 Speaker 1: other dimension for just two seconds or whatever it is.

18:25 Speaker 1: How do we know that this is a quote unquote

18:27 Speaker 1: figment of our imagination. What if it's not, And just

18:31 Speaker 1: like DMT, you're going you're actually somewhere else for a second,

18:35 Speaker 1: I think it's just as possible as our brain cooking

18:39 Speaker 1: up a goblin. I just it doesn't That doesn't make

18:42 Speaker 1: sense to me. Sorry, rant over.

18:48 Speaker 2: I've never talked on DMT, so I don't know what

18:51 Speaker 2: people are seeing, do you know what I mean? I've

18:52 Speaker 2: never had this sleep.

18:53 Speaker 1: I did it with the son of the son of

18:55 Speaker 1: the Project blue Book astronomer, and it was the best.

19:00 Speaker 1: I don't want to say the name, but everybody knows

19:02 Speaker 1: who I'm talking about. That. That was the last time

19:05 Speaker 1: I did it was with with a Project blue Book

19:11 Speaker 1: Jay Allen's son. That was quite the experience. My friend,

19:16 Speaker 1: I did you get on a plane after that? Yeah?

19:18 Speaker 1: And it was not not a great idea of mine.

19:21 Speaker 1: But luckily it only like last like fifteen to twenty minutes. Yeah.

19:26 Speaker 1: Last year was last. Last year was pretty fun. When

19:30 Speaker 1: we went to it was the last day of contact

19:32 Speaker 1: in the desert and I had an interview with Paul

19:34 Speaker 1: hot fuck fuck anyway, I mean, everyone knows what I'm

19:40 Speaker 1: talking about. Anyway, Everyone knows that he likes DMPT. But

19:44 Speaker 1: we were in the room right before the interview and

19:46 Speaker 1: he just like looks at me, He's like, want some

19:49 Speaker 1: And it was a vape pen and I thought it

19:52 Speaker 1: was weed at first, and I was like, oh, hell yeah,

19:56 Speaker 1: grab that started sucking on it. I'm like, that doesn't wait,

20:01 Speaker 1: you fucking what was that? And then he told me

20:04 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, that's a d MT. I was like, dude,

20:08 Speaker 1: I have to interview you. So if anyone wants a

20:13 Speaker 1: little sneaking tip, if you go back and listen to

20:16 Speaker 1: the I didn't put out on video because I won't

20:19 Speaker 1: won't go back and listen to that. Uh, listen to

20:22 Speaker 1: that interview one more time with that information, just going

20:25 Speaker 1: to see different Now. Yeah, I haven't got out so much, dude.

20:33 Speaker 1: It was embarrassing. Interview ended up fifteen minutes, but we

20:36 Speaker 1: had a great time. Uh yeah, a little scoop there

20:40 Speaker 1: for you. But uh yeah, I love he's so. He's

20:45 Speaker 1: so fucking cool. But I did that laser thing where

20:51 Speaker 1: you see the fucking program. Do you guys know about this?

20:55 Speaker 2: I've heard about it, I've never I've never experienced it,

20:58 Speaker 2: so I don't know, but I know what you're talking about.

20:59 Speaker 1: I just yeah, so I didn't see anything because it

21:02 Speaker 1: just it wore off too quickly. But yeah, I wish

21:08 Speaker 1: I think there's something to it, Like I think that

21:11 Speaker 1: we could be in some sort of simulation. But I

21:13 Speaker 1: digress anyway, back to back to Dan. So there you

21:18 Speaker 1: went to the doctor and they told.

21:20 Speaker 3: You, yeah, basically, not much. And I went back to

21:28 Speaker 3: the hotel, got in the car. I was moving down

21:31 Speaker 3: to South Carolina the time, and I was thinking about

21:35 Speaker 3: it the whole way, and you know, and I have

21:40 Speaker 3: been basically since it happened indifferently now like back then,

21:46 Speaker 3: it was definitely more trying to figure out what it

21:49 Speaker 3: is from a very deeply skeptical standpoint. You know, I

21:52 Speaker 3: was working in a very conservative scientific community that didn't

21:58 Speaker 3: think really outside of anything that could be proved with

22:01 Speaker 3: quantitative data. And you know, we have a visualization observation

22:07 Speaker 3: across you know, huge sample sizes. So here I am

22:10 Speaker 3: one guy in a parking lot of a motel and

22:14 Speaker 3: this experience happens to me. It didn't take me anywhere.

22:19 Speaker 3: People always ask that, you know, are you sure you

22:21 Speaker 3: weren't abducted? I mean, I guess it's possible, but I

22:24 Speaker 3: have no memory of that. I'm not going to go

22:26 Speaker 3: to hypnotherapist and do that because I think that that

22:29 Speaker 3: can bring out things that maybe didn't happen, or that

22:32 Speaker 3: were dreams. That's a whole other podcast probably, But anyway,

22:37 Speaker 3: I get down to South Carolina and I kind of

22:39 Speaker 3: just keep this really to myself and my wife. She

22:43 Speaker 3: knows about it, but I didn't share it with anyone else.

22:45 Speaker 3: You know, this is pre twenty seventeen, so no one

22:48 Speaker 3: was talking about it. And even though we say twenty seventeen,

22:52 Speaker 3: most people didn't catch up to the New York Times

22:54 Speaker 3: article till eighteen nineteen, so that's when I saw most

22:57 Speaker 3: people get to get introduced to the topic. So that

23:02 Speaker 3: is when I saw this sort of community on Twitter.

23:05 Speaker 3: I was on Twitter, I had ten followers and followed

23:08 Speaker 3: ten people as just a mental health therapist, and I

23:12 Speaker 3: found this community that felt safe to talk about this.

23:17 Speaker 3: But it really I still didn't share much of details

23:20 Speaker 3: in my experience. It was all just being increasingly more

23:22 Speaker 3: open to it. And then I went out to see

23:25 Speaker 3: Brandon Fugel in Utah in Salt Lake and stayed with

23:30 Speaker 3: him for a few days and had an incredible experience,

23:34 Speaker 3: got to know him. He shared a lot of amazing stories,

23:38 Speaker 3: and he kind of made me feel like it was safe,

23:41 Speaker 3: safe to share my story as a business person, a

23:44 Speaker 3: mental health clinician, I have a number of things in

23:47 Speaker 3: my life going on.

23:49 Speaker 6: You know.

23:49 Speaker 3: If he publicly shared it and it hasn't sort of

23:51 Speaker 3: tarnished his image or ability to do business, then I thought, Okay,

23:56 Speaker 3: maybe it's safe to do it, you know. And then

24:00 Speaker 3: basically with Brandon Fugel, what had that been? A year later,

24:04 Speaker 3: I was on the Vetted podcast and I said to Patrick,

24:08 Speaker 3: I said, I'd love to bring on Brennan. I feel

24:10 Speaker 3: more comfortable kind of sharing my story for the first

24:12 Speaker 3: time if he would be if he was here. And

24:14 Speaker 3: he said, oh, yeah, sure, bring Brennan on. That's great.

24:17 Speaker 3: He was building his channel at the time. And yeah,

24:21 Speaker 3: I shed it. You know, in twenty minutes doing that.

24:23 Speaker 3: I've only shared it like four times, so I'm not

24:26 Speaker 3: well practiced at first like some of other people are.

24:29 Speaker 3: They've made it into a really beautiful story. They've told

24:33 Speaker 3: a real they've told a real account, but they have

24:37 Speaker 3: made it into something very vivid. You know.

24:41 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think that you possibly And again,

24:48 Speaker 1: I know we're getting it into a speculative territory here,

24:51 Speaker 1: but do you think that there is a possibility that

24:54 Speaker 1: you didn't just have a close encounter, but that you

25:00 Speaker 1: add more contact than you are currently aware of if

25:05 Speaker 1: you understand what I mean. I don't want to ask

25:08 Speaker 1: the question. I don't want to push too far if

25:10 Speaker 1: you don't want to go that far. But no, I'm

25:13 Speaker 1: symptoms are or not the symptoms? How would I say this?

25:19 Speaker 1: The signs do point to there could be more.

25:25 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'll tell you a few of the

25:27 Speaker 3: things that you know I didn't share, but you know

25:29 Speaker 3: they're small details, but they might be significant. Is that

25:33 Speaker 3: my whole sort of paradigm on myself in the universe

25:37 Speaker 3: and faith meaning just changed. I was a very strong

25:43 Speaker 3: Christian and unfortunately fortunately whatever I just stopped going. I

25:48 Speaker 3: still call myself a Christian, but I don't go to

25:50 Speaker 3: Bible studies. I don't go to church on Sunday. So

25:53 Speaker 3: there was an ontological shock period for me of adjustment,

25:57 Speaker 3: which I which is why I think there will be

25:59 Speaker 3: some dystrophic disclosure or challenging period of disclosure. I So

26:05 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was a download. But I

26:07 Speaker 3: definitely started to think differently about the world. I was

26:11 Speaker 3: definitely more open, I was more attunement seeking, I was

26:17 Speaker 3: more intuitive, I think or sort out intuition in myself

26:21 Speaker 3: and other people, a lot more empathetic and just wanting

26:26 Speaker 3: to emotionally connect with myself and others.

26:29 Speaker 1: After it, it's that's, uh, You're not the only one, right,

26:36 Speaker 1: Like these these are these are things that are very

26:40 Speaker 1: common amongst people who go through what you went through.

26:44 Speaker 1: And I was lucky enough to go through it very

26:48 Speaker 1: early on in my life, which I think was a

26:50 Speaker 1: benefit to how I grew up. It was also a

26:54 Speaker 1: testament to how I grew up right in the past

26:57 Speaker 1: I took and the decisions I made, and this and

27:00 Speaker 1: that and this and that. So I think. But here's

27:04 Speaker 1: the beautiful part. I truly believe that that sighting was

27:10 Speaker 1: meant for like you, as mine was meant for me.

27:14 Speaker 1: You know, And maybe you know the phoenix lights or

27:16 Speaker 1: something like that's like a little different, right, Those I

27:20 Speaker 1: think are meant to happen as well, and they involve

27:23 Speaker 1: more people for obvious reasons. We could even point back

27:26 Speaker 1: all the way to the Fatoma right that is supposed

27:31 Speaker 1: to happen for all those people at that time, at

27:35 Speaker 1: that place, at at that moment, right, because reality, that's

27:39 Speaker 1: all reality really is. It's just now is compiling and

27:42 Speaker 1: compounding on top of each other. There really is no

27:46 Speaker 1: structured time like we think. So of course you know

27:48 Speaker 1: all this, right, But it's funny the way we see

27:53 Speaker 1: things like that. And I think all these feelings that

27:57 Speaker 1: you're you're having, they are they are they were the

28:04 Speaker 1: product of whatever these things are trying to do with us,

28:10 Speaker 1: like showing us themselves just a little bit to spark

28:13 Speaker 1: an innovation, to spark someone to go on the right path.

28:17 Speaker 6: You know.

28:17 Speaker 1: Uh, maybe our ancestors called them, you know, angels. Maybe

28:23 Speaker 1: some called them demons and blamed all their troubles on

28:26 Speaker 1: that sighting. Right, there's a demon fucking that. Ever since

28:30 Speaker 1: that night, my life has been ruined, right, Or it

28:34 Speaker 1: was an angel. It inspired me to be a better person, right.

28:37 Speaker 1: So I think it's the lens that we're looking through.

28:39 Speaker 1: I think that was meant for you, and I think

28:43 Speaker 1: you know that you've gone on the path now you have.

28:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was definitely a it was a

28:52 Speaker 3: relationship in some ways because there's something that is interacting

28:55 Speaker 3: with me. So it's not just a light in the sky,

28:57 Speaker 3: it's one that is communicating through coming closer and then

29:01 Speaker 3: moving further away and coming closer again. I mean human

29:04 Speaker 3: beings do that, you know, deliberately, sometimes not. This was

29:08 Speaker 3: very kind of deliberate and probably I felt like kind

29:13 Speaker 3: of the right place at the wrong time, or the

29:14 Speaker 3: wrong place at the right time, whatever your opinion it

29:17 Speaker 3: would be. I mean now I definitely look back and

29:19 Speaker 3: feel sort of grateful and fortunate that I had the experience.

29:23 Speaker 3: I didn't think it was deliberately to impact me. I mean,

29:25 Speaker 3: I really wasn't that impacted. I had bad skin irritation,

29:29 Speaker 3: some skin issues that I do probably think there was

29:33 Speaker 3: some radiation issues. I was talking to Jacques Relat three

29:37 Speaker 3: months ago in Italy. We spoke spent an hour talking

29:41 Speaker 3: about it, and he wants to go into it. I mean,

29:44 Speaker 3: he really wants to learn about the whole sighting and

29:48 Speaker 3: encounter and investigate it. And I'm really considering it.

29:53 Speaker 2: You know.

29:54 Speaker 3: My only concern is that just the proximity to.

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31:35 Speaker 3: The community was in the academic institution that I still

31:39 Speaker 3: work as a professional.

31:40 Speaker 1: You know, especially being a mental health professional. It must

31:44 Speaker 1: be tough, like yeah, definitely when someone starts to question yours, right, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

31:54 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, definitely a conflict of interest there.

31:57 Speaker 3: But so yeah, so it felt safe to you. Just okay,

32:00 Speaker 3: I can talk about it, and I can and I

32:02 Speaker 3: didn't talk too much about the setting, but I can

32:03 Speaker 3: talk about my interest and belief in the phenomenon that

32:07 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lose referrals.

32:08 Speaker 1: Right, well, let me ask you something you said. It

32:11 Speaker 1: was glowing like a yellowy orange. Is this similar to

32:16 Speaker 1: how like the did you you see that? Bob? And

32:20 Speaker 1: I hate to bring up Bob as Ar again, but

32:22 Speaker 1: Bob's are described how that this you know, this like

32:26 Speaker 1: yellow light would envelope the craft. And then even in

32:30 Speaker 1: that that that Logan Paul video that James James Fox

32:34 Speaker 1: talks about that that footage, there's something like that where

32:38 Speaker 1: it's like kind of hovering its dishape. Did it look

32:41 Speaker 1: like that or was it?

32:43 Speaker 3: So it's amazing you asked that. It's almost like you

32:45 Speaker 3: know this, but you don't. I two years ago when

32:48 Speaker 3: I shared the story, a few people were asking, you know,

32:52 Speaker 3: can you find an image you know, of what it

32:54 Speaker 3: looked like? And and I searched the internet. I searched

32:57 Speaker 3: thousands of images of uIP and I on one I

33:00 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, that's it. I mean, it

33:03 Speaker 3: was such a relief to find the exact same thing

33:05 Speaker 3: that I saw, and it was that image. No, yep,

33:11 Speaker 3: and you'll see it on posts and you could track

33:13 Speaker 3: my history in X that That's exactly what I've been

33:16 Speaker 3: saying that that was the image. It was a sort

33:19 Speaker 3: of vibrating sort of it was a pulsating energy, but

33:23 Speaker 3: very visible, like pulsating on the outside, and its electric

33:29 Speaker 3: static kind of sound like being under a power line.

33:32 Speaker 3: It was completely alive. This thing was absolutely a living thing.

33:37 Speaker 1: And when it's going from par five.

33:40 Speaker 3: Part five Jesus, part five to pop three, was it?

33:44 Speaker 1: Did you say par five to par three?

33:45 Speaker 2: Yeah?

33:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, five was five hundred one fifty.

33:51 Speaker 1: When it's moving, are you seeing any any what?

33:57 Speaker 6: What?

33:57 Speaker 3: What?

33:57 Speaker 1: We would call like in the in the industry motion

34:02 Speaker 1: blur or was it almost like it was appearing instantly skipping.

34:08 Speaker 3: I've never been notice that it came like directly at me.

34:13 Speaker 3: Uh and I couldn't. It was quite quick, so it

34:16 Speaker 3: just and it's like big. It went like smaller to

34:20 Speaker 3: big like like that. So I could really tell if

34:22 Speaker 3: there was some motion blow or skipping it just like that,

34:27 Speaker 3: like you know what, hold on, let me fix it,

34:31 Speaker 3: like this, right, you can see this.

34:33 Speaker 4: It was like that.

34:35 Speaker 3: Like that.

34:37 Speaker 2: Like that right, That's how they were describing them moving

34:41 Speaker 2: in the Lizard documentary.

34:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, essentially is that it's I mean, Jesus, it

34:49 Speaker 1: sounds it's like uncanny. It's it's so you come across

34:54 Speaker 1: that picture you're like, holy shit, that's the fucking thing

34:57 Speaker 1: I saw. Like that's exactly what I saw. It's and

35:01 Speaker 1: it's moving in and out and in and out, and

35:03 Speaker 1: then you get sleepy. What'd you think about that part?

35:07 Speaker 1: Do you think that was maybe fatigue from the radiation.

35:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but I haven't had the feeling

35:14 Speaker 3: since of sleeping that much, being that groggy, like I

35:17 Speaker 3: could have slept for days. It was like I had

35:20 Speaker 3: just been hiking for a week NonStop. That was the

35:23 Speaker 3: feeling physically, that's all I remember.

35:27 Speaker 1: Just adrenaline too, you get such a yeah. I don't

35:31 Speaker 1: think people realize this part of it, but whether you

35:34 Speaker 1: know it or not, you're getting an adrenaline the adrenaline

35:38 Speaker 1: dump of a lifetime. I remember as a kid when

35:40 Speaker 1: I saw what I saw, my body vibrated like I

35:45 Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck am I seeing? And it's

35:50 Speaker 1: just like it's the biggest adrenaline dump. I remember running

35:53 Speaker 1: into my mother like stumbling over my words. I couldn't breathe.

35:57 Speaker 1: I was fucking heaving and I was I did run

36:00 Speaker 1: around house. But it's like when you see something like that,

36:03 Speaker 1: it's just it's you just go to a hundred and

36:08 Speaker 1: then down and then it's done and you're still at

36:12 Speaker 1: like a hundred and you're like, wait a second.

36:16 Speaker 3: It's like a the first time in my life where

36:19 Speaker 3: I've experienced these two things together, excitement and relief, like

36:25 Speaker 3: extreme excitement like you know, I'm in shock, excitement like

36:28 Speaker 3: I've seen something absolutely incredible, but then also relief like

36:32 Speaker 3: I'm not going to die. So those two emotions are

36:37 Speaker 3: very exhausting and taxing on the body and emotionally, and

36:41 Speaker 3: I feel like that that's what shattered me.

36:46 Speaker 1: Okay, so physiological effects burns on the skin really interesting

36:55 Speaker 1: because that takes it to another level even on like.

36:57 Speaker 3: Like the clarifiedn't say burns on the skin, skin irritation.

37:02 Speaker 3: It actually felt like it was a burn, but I

37:05 Speaker 3: would look in the mirror and it wasn't. So it

37:07 Speaker 3: was extremely like ants crawling on the skin was the feeling,

37:12 Speaker 3: and it felt like it was irritated, but I looked

37:14 Speaker 3: at the mirror it didn't look much different. So it

37:17 Speaker 3: was there were like silent effects, I would say, or

37:19 Speaker 3: not so visible effects.

37:21 Speaker 1: Well, that is very interesting. That's I don't know if

37:25 Speaker 1: that might be more interesting. But yeah, sucks because that

37:30 Speaker 1: means you can't take So you did catch a couple

37:34 Speaker 1: of pictures of this.

37:35 Speaker 3: Thing, mm hmm do you have them?

37:39 Speaker 2: Yeah?

37:40 Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, they are on if you go to my

37:45 Speaker 3: if you go yeah, if you just go to go

37:48 Speaker 3: to my site and you search for your site, Vermont's

37:53 Speaker 3: saying sorry my ex page, I'm sorry, yeah X page,

37:56 Speaker 3: and then if you search for yeah, it'll probably just

38:01 Speaker 3: be of Yeah, it might be in the highlights, but

38:03 Speaker 3: Vermont's siding. I think I have all the pictures of that.

38:07 Speaker 1: Okay, because I want to move move into the the

38:12 Speaker 1: David Grush thing.

38:13 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you know I can. I can find

38:16 Speaker 3: it while you do that, and I can send them

38:17 Speaker 3: to you seat and spend time looking.

38:18 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, yeah, let's do that. I'm gonna play that

38:21 Speaker 1: clip of of David Grush that's on your on your page.

38:27 Speaker 1: Actually there was, damn it, there was a couple of

38:28 Speaker 1: clips I wanted to play because there was this one.

38:32 Speaker 1: What do you guys make of this story?

38:38 Speaker 7: Well, in the span of twenty four hours, there have

38:40 Speaker 7: been a seventeen earthquakes near Area fifty one. It started

38:43 Speaker 7: with a four point four magnitude quake just two and

38:45 Speaker 7: a half miles underground. The area is normally not prone

38:49 Speaker 7: to earthquakes, the shallow and it's leading to theories of

38:52 Speaker 7: nuclear testing or even UFOs because it all happened after

38:55 Speaker 7: President Trump said this.

38:57 Speaker 3: Do you have an update on UFO fibles and what

39:00 Speaker 3: might see what we're going to be seeing.

39:01 Speaker 8: Well, I think we're going to be releasing as much

39:04 Speaker 8: as we can in then in future, they want to

39:07 Speaker 8: find out about the UFOs and anything having to do

39:11 Speaker 8: with UFO or related material, and we're going to be

39:13 Speaker 8: releasing a lot of things from that we have, and

39:16 Speaker 8: I think someone's going to be very interesting.

39:19 Speaker 7: Christephen Green, are UFO research or innertire position? Great to

39:22 Speaker 7: see a doctor? So are these earthquakes just a version

39:25 Speaker 7: of burning the files and an embassy when people got

39:28 Speaker 7: to get out?

39:30 Speaker 5: Well, you know, the thing that lights up in my

39:32 Speaker 5: mind is that back in the nineteen nineties I had

39:34 Speaker 5: brief the man who worked and designed the security apparatus

39:37 Speaker 5: at some of the facilities out there, particularly the ones

39:40 Speaker 5: up near Groom Lake and pot Mesa, and he explained

39:44 Speaker 5: it on the top of those complexes, underground or like

39:48 Speaker 5: bunker busting type bombs would underneath them, or thermonuclear devices,

39:53 Speaker 5: so that if anybody was getting close to those facilities,

39:57 Speaker 5: and by this that he could even be the legal

39:59 Speaker 5: government of United States, they could collapse those facilities.

40:01 Speaker 4: No, I don't know that that's what happened. I know

40:03 Speaker 4: for a fact those.

40:04 Speaker 5: Security systems are out there, so that's one consideration. Now

40:09 Speaker 5: it could just be a cluster of earthquakes, or they

40:12 Speaker 5: could be doing some legitimate underground testing out in that region.

40:15 Speaker 7: Yeah, there are a lot of mountains out there, so

40:17 Speaker 7: earthquakes are not out of the.

40:18 Speaker 1: Question as quickly. I forgot about that one kind of

40:23 Speaker 1: weird right, like, what's going on that's seventeen earthquakes?

40:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's clearly you know, it's just it's clear,

40:35 Speaker 2: it's clearly nothing. Nothing to see here, guys, Hey, look

40:38 Speaker 2: what is What does that.

40:40 Speaker 1: Show that Jesse and Ramsey are doing.

40:43 Speaker 2: It's probably there's probably nothing, probably nothing.

40:45 Speaker 1: Probably nothing right moving on? So uh here I am

40:52 Speaker 1: I got to share. Oh shit, I'm on the latest

40:56 Speaker 1: page again. I don't like this. Uh this was but

41:03 Speaker 1: doctor Greer, I like how we always has brief someone

41:07 Speaker 1: on something. He always he always has briefed someone on

41:12 Speaker 1: the topic we're talking about. But what he said it

41:17 Speaker 1: was interesting. What are you saying is that they had

41:19 Speaker 1: they have bombs on top of sensitive sites so that

41:24 Speaker 1: when people are getting too close, it triggers and blows

41:28 Speaker 1: the place up.

41:29 Speaker 5: Is that?

41:31 Speaker 1: Does anyone actually believe that that's what's happening? No, okay,

41:35 Speaker 1: I just want to gauge the room here, Dan, Do

41:38 Speaker 1: you think that that's happening?

41:40 Speaker 5: No?

41:40 Speaker 2: I didn't think so, okay, I was streaming bullshit while

41:44 Speaker 2: he was talking the whole time, literally screaming bullshit. He's

41:49 Speaker 2: so bullshit that guy.

41:51 Speaker 1: He's actually doing a press club event.

41:54 Speaker 2: I know, I know what Like if you guys were

41:56 Speaker 2: going no, absolutely no.

41:59 Speaker 1: Because like James Fox did it for free, right, like

42:03 Speaker 1: how you're supposed to do.

42:04 Speaker 2: It's going to charge you, like.

42:07 Speaker 1: No, fIF I think it's fifty bucks to get in

42:09 Speaker 1: or something like that.

42:10 Speaker 2: Are you serious?

42:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's again, you know, I get it. You have

42:15 Speaker 1: to you have to pay for the cost of the

42:17 Speaker 1: actual press club and stuff. But it's also the National Press.

42:22 Speaker 2: Club, so he's got to buy be some is shoes.

42:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, I'm on Dan's page. I'm looking for that

42:29 Speaker 1: Grush interview because that there's some stuff in that that

42:33 Speaker 1: because he does talk about the timeframe and that it

42:38 Speaker 1: seems that there is some sort of internal effort from

42:43 Speaker 1: representatives and this is like going beyond just like the Burlesons,

42:47 Speaker 1: that there is like a literal working effort behind the

42:52 Speaker 1: scenes to move forward with this information. Uh, and whether

43:00 Speaker 1: it's you know, the initial thing will be these forty

43:02 Speaker 1: six videos that Luna is attempting to get. If that's

43:05 Speaker 1: how they want to it seems like we're being set

43:09 Speaker 1: up though, and they're just looking for the right way

43:11 Speaker 1: to kind of roll it out. The question seems less

43:16 Speaker 1: to be about if, more about when at this point,

43:20 Speaker 1: and I find that to be extremely extremely you know,

43:25 Speaker 1: just like positive. It's something we've been working towards. I mean,

43:29 Speaker 1: we have a chance to make history here and to

43:31 Speaker 1: really be a part of a time that will be

43:34 Speaker 1: written about in every single history book going forward, might

43:38 Speaker 1: even rewrite a few. And I think it's, you know,

43:42 Speaker 1: the next step of evolution and consciousness, is my take

43:48 Speaker 1: on this.

43:49 Speaker 3: I like that it's the closest we've ever been.

43:51 Speaker 2: Absolutely well, what a time to be alive. I'll tell

43:53 Speaker 2: you that.

43:54 Speaker 9: Man.

43:54 Speaker 2: You know, I never thought in my lifetime. I never

43:56 Speaker 2: thought in my lifetime might see it. I thought maybe

43:58 Speaker 2: one hundred years from now now, Like this is fucking crazy,

44:02 Speaker 2: That's what I mean.

44:03 Speaker 1: And and and isn't it weird though that we And

44:09 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys feel this too. And

44:10 Speaker 1: I might even actually sound a little bit fucking crazy

44:13 Speaker 1: when I say what I'm about to say, but I

44:18 Speaker 1: I assume that we all see the world through that,

44:23 Speaker 1: like we are the main character, right, Like all you

44:27 Speaker 1: have for reference is like you're how you're perceiving the world,

44:31 Speaker 1: that your consciousness is like playing out like a movie

44:36 Speaker 1: right before your eyes, and you're you're the main character.

44:40 Speaker 1: I assume. I maybe I assume wrong. Maybe there are

44:44 Speaker 1: some NPCs out there. I don't know, maybe, but I

44:49 Speaker 1: assume that everybody human being, every human being sees what

44:52 Speaker 1: kind of the way I see, and in some in

44:55 Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, they are the main character

44:58 Speaker 1: in the story. And it's aims that every single thing

45:01 Speaker 1: that I've ever wanted to happen in my life. And

45:05 Speaker 1: I know this sounds fucking crazy, but it's like everything

45:11 Speaker 1: that every before this I was a part of. I

45:15 Speaker 1: did a lot of movies and shit, and we fought

45:18 Speaker 1: so hard to get something that was had never been

45:22 Speaker 1: done before. Right. It was called the Snyder Cut of

45:26 Speaker 1: the Justice League. It was this like grassroots effort to

45:29 Speaker 1: get because Warner Brothers fucked over Zack Snyder. They fired him.

45:33 Speaker 1: You guys probably might even know.

45:35 Speaker 2: The story, but I'm a huge I'm a huge what

45:37 Speaker 2: it is.

45:38 Speaker 9: Yet, So there's this.

45:39 Speaker 1: Big grassroots effort that I was a part of, and

45:42 Speaker 1: it then something historic happened, the pandemic, and the pandemic

45:47 Speaker 1: opened up the door for this to be greenlit because

45:52 Speaker 1: it was a way that they could release They're fucking greedy,

45:55 Speaker 1: but they they could release a new movie or some

45:58 Speaker 1: new content because they were rolling out HBO. I'm getting

46:02 Speaker 1: lost in it. That's not really important. But anyway that happened,

46:07 Speaker 1: everybody said there was, it didn't exist, and it was

46:10 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. It happened. There was something I really wanted,

46:14 Speaker 1: and it seems like everything in my life that's and

46:16 Speaker 1: I assume maybe we all feel this way, but I

46:20 Speaker 1: struggled for a long time with addiction. All I wanted

46:23 Speaker 1: to do is overcome it. All I wanted to do

46:26 Speaker 1: is be the person I am today. And I did

46:27 Speaker 1: do that, right, I did. I did it. And it

46:30 Speaker 1: seems like everything that I am interested in ends up

46:34 Speaker 1: becoming something that is like noteworthy. So I don't know

46:38 Speaker 1: if that's the way everyone feels, but it just feels

46:41 Speaker 1: like a I don't know, it's like creepy because I'm like,

46:45 Speaker 1: am I like in some sort of simulation of my

46:47 Speaker 1: own Like everything I want seems to happen, everything goes good.

46:52 Speaker 2: No, it's because you worked for it. That's why. It's

46:55 Speaker 2: just like like like with me as a firefighter, I

46:57 Speaker 2: became a rookie firefighter at thirty seven years old. Now

47:00 Speaker 2: I'm a fire captain, you know, thirteen years later. It's

47:03 Speaker 2: something I worked for, Like I I went out there

47:05 Speaker 2: and I got it. And that's what you've done. You've

47:07 Speaker 2: accomplished something. Yes, I'm sure doctor Dan's the same thing

47:10 Speaker 2: for him. I'm sure.

47:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I I guess I.

47:14 Speaker 2: But but yes, I get what you're saying. Yes, it's

47:16 Speaker 2: literally everything I've ever wanted is literally happening. But I

47:21 Speaker 2: work for it.

47:23 Speaker 3: What you're what you're just saying is that there's something

47:26 Speaker 3: like almost too lucky or too fortuitor, so that there's

47:29 Speaker 3: like some hands playing a role.

47:31 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes I question like and I again, as a

47:38 Speaker 1: mental health guy, I fucking see what you're about to

47:41 Speaker 1: do to me, But I see what you're about to

47:44 Speaker 1: do to me.

47:45 Speaker 3: I'm not thinking that.

47:46 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm joking, but sometimes I literally do. And

47:52 Speaker 1: I brought this up to one person, maybe maybe one

47:56 Speaker 1: person before or i've I I remember talking to him

48:01 Speaker 1: because he was someone I can really confide in. But

48:04 Speaker 1: I asked him. I was like, hey, dude, do you

48:06 Speaker 1: ever feel like you're just kind of like like you

48:09 Speaker 1: died at some point and this is you just kind

48:12 Speaker 1: of living out whatever come whatever came next. It's like

48:18 Speaker 1: something changed at one point and it just seems like

48:21 Speaker 1: from that moment on. I couldn't quite put my finger

48:26 Speaker 1: on what was different, but something's different. And he said

48:29 Speaker 1: yes to me, so gave me this like reassurance. But

48:33 Speaker 1: there was a moment in my life. There was a

48:34 Speaker 1: person before it, and then there's a person after it.

48:38 Speaker 1: I can't quite put my finger on when the moment was,

48:42 Speaker 1: but something didn't feel right after, and all of a sudden,

48:46 Speaker 1: like I start I swear to God, And I think

48:49 Speaker 1: people call it like disassociation, right, like you're dissociating with reality.

48:57 Speaker 1: And I think I think I do. I walk myself

49:01 Speaker 1: into existential traps in my head. And I do think

49:05 Speaker 1: that that that's something that we don't talk about often

49:08 Speaker 1: in this community, is when you're constantly asking yourself existential

49:13 Speaker 1: questions like this, sometimes you can go a little crazy.

49:17 Speaker 1: And I think that's what happens to some people.

49:20 Speaker 6: I E.

49:20 Speaker 1: David Wilcox, I E. Corey Good Like So, I do

49:25 Speaker 1: think you have to be careful because the mental health

49:27 Speaker 1: line is real.

49:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it's real, and I've seen it in

49:33 Speaker 3: the community. Yeah, and in some really difficult situations where

49:37 Speaker 3: people are really struggling and at a point of risk,

49:41 Speaker 3: and I have to obviously intervene as a professional, and

49:45 Speaker 3: I do. And it's not someone telling me a story

49:47 Speaker 3: that sounds wacky and I'm not judging, it's none of that.

49:50 Speaker 3: It's real mental health stuff that that will occur in

49:53 Speaker 3: any actually any community. I mean, yeah, I was a

49:56 Speaker 3: professional tennis place by a lot of tennis. You'd see,

49:59 Speaker 3: you know, different meltdowns and manic episodes. You see it everywhere.

50:03 Speaker 3: But I'd say, yeah, in our community it might be

50:05 Speaker 3: a little more so because we are more open minded,

50:08 Speaker 3: more more sensitive. We're more explorative, exploratorive psychologically and existentially,

50:15 Speaker 3: and in that search for meaning, you can start to,

50:19 Speaker 3: i don't know, go down a rabbit hole or start

50:21 Speaker 3: to question everything.

50:24 Speaker 1: That's why I do say people like not everyone should

50:27 Speaker 1: do uh not everyone should just like try mushrooms or

50:33 Speaker 1: try DMT or any of that stuff. Like if your

50:37 Speaker 1: if your grip on reality is shaky at even slightly,

50:42 Speaker 1: don't do drugs or drink.

50:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need that my mind is fucking right.

50:48 Speaker 2: I don't need mushrooms.

50:49 Speaker 1: Buddy, don't down those avenues. It's not for everybody. Don't

50:53 Speaker 1: do it. Keep your because I've seen people go down

50:58 Speaker 1: and never come back.

51:02 Speaker 3: You're not endorsing it at all, but this is a

51:03 Speaker 3: good opportunity to tell you my mushroom story.

51:06 Speaker 2: God please, yes, please.

51:09 Speaker 3: Never publicly shared. Uh, and it's it's on the internet

51:13 Speaker 3: for life.

51:14 Speaker 1: But that's scoop.

51:15 Speaker 3: So I was staying with her at a friend's house.

51:18 Speaker 3: I cannot name that person because they are very well known.

51:21 Speaker 3: But I was hungry at night and they said, help

51:24 Speaker 3: yourself to anything in the fridge, and uh, you know,

51:27 Speaker 3: I went down to the kitchen saw some this beautiful

51:31 Speaker 3: chocolate box. I mean, it's a really nice wooden box

51:33 Speaker 3: of chocolate. So I'm thinking Switzerland. Maybe they're from I

51:36 Speaker 3: know what country, and it says made in Colorado, Boulder,

51:39 Speaker 3: Colorado's Like, I didn't think they made chocolate Boulder, but

51:42 Speaker 3: you know, maybe they do. So I have one chocolate.

51:46 Speaker 3: I was like, God, this is delicious, and you know,

51:48 Speaker 3: had another an hour later. I'm basically frozen sort of

51:53 Speaker 3: by the fridge, like holding up in the fridge yeah,

51:56 Speaker 3: totally frozen. My wife comes down and she says, you okay,

52:00 Speaker 3: and I said, yeah, you know, so basically lost two

52:03 Speaker 3: two hours of time. I got back up to the stuck.

52:07 Speaker 2: Its great, bro, that's great, bridge. I'm sorry that it's hilarious.

52:13 Speaker 2: Hold up, I'm sorry.

52:14 Speaker 1: That is absolutely this is like a Tales from the

52:17 Speaker 1: Trip episode. All of a sudden, so wait a second,

52:20 Speaker 1: exclude my man. You did my man, you walked into

52:25 Speaker 1: the fridge, saw nice chocolates open, going up eight one

52:31 Speaker 1: eight a second trouble.

52:35 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wait, the story is coming.

52:39 Speaker 10: I was gonna say when I thought I this is

52:41 Speaker 10: just wait, guys, let me finish, Let finish this up.

52:44 Speaker 10: Then okay, So my wife comes down, go back up

52:48 Speaker 10: to the room. I fall asleep for about ten minutes.

52:51 Speaker 10: I wake up and everything is sort of glowing blue.

52:55 Speaker 10: There's like this blue, lot of blue vibration stuff going on.

52:58 Speaker 10: But then I start to see all the electrical current that,

53:01 Speaker 10: you know, all the like cell phone signal in the air,

53:04 Speaker 10: I mean's everywhere, you know, like.

53:06 Speaker 3: How are we talking? There's no wires here. There's a

53:09 Speaker 3: lot of electrical stuff in the air, a lot of data.

53:12 Speaker 3: And I saw all that data in the sky, I

53:16 Speaker 3: mean in the room I was in, right in the air,

53:18 Speaker 3: going through the air then, and it was kind of

53:21 Speaker 3: nice for like a few minutes. I was like, Wow,

53:23 Speaker 3: this is cool. I'm seeing basically what no one else

53:26 Speaker 3: can see right now. And maybe there's some harm to this,

53:29 Speaker 3: but I'm like tapped into this matrix thing. Then I

53:32 Speaker 3: start to get a little paranoid and start thinking about, well,

53:35 Speaker 3: maybe this is going to cause you know, illness, or

53:38 Speaker 3: this is the cause of cancer, and it's going to

53:40 Speaker 3: invade me and my wife here and you know, and

53:43 Speaker 3: she was pregnant at the time, and you know, and

53:46 Speaker 3: of course I don't know what I've taken. I just

53:49 Speaker 3: I just thought I had chocolate style at this point.

53:51 Speaker 3: So I have no idea what's happened at this point

53:53 Speaker 3: when I said all about you know, the blue around

53:55 Speaker 3: every object, Like I look at my wife, there was

53:57 Speaker 3: this just blue like halo around her, this sort of

54:00 Speaker 3: like it was pretty beautiful looking really until it got

54:04 Speaker 3: kind of paranoid. And then when I started paranoid and panic,

54:06 Speaker 3: I I was looking up and there was a chandelier,

54:10 Speaker 3: beautiful crystal chandelier, and the crystal turned into icicles. And

54:15 Speaker 3: they were going to calm down. I felt like they

54:18 Speaker 3: were going to come down, that they were going to fall,

54:21 Speaker 3: almost like terminated two style, you know, like turning into

54:25 Speaker 3: you know, you know, just something sharp and dangerous. And

54:29 Speaker 3: then I wanted to go in the bathroom and I

54:30 Speaker 3: wanted to jump out the window, and I wasn't going to,

54:34 Speaker 3: but it was like, I've got to get away from

54:36 Speaker 3: whatever this thing is chasing me. And didn't know that

54:40 Speaker 3: I was basically tripping. At this point. My wife calls

54:44 Speaker 3: the person who's who are in the house and she said, oh,

54:48 Speaker 3: my god, you didn't need the chocolates, did you. They're

54:50 Speaker 3: really strong. Don't have more than like a quarter And

54:53 Speaker 3: my wife says, he just ate two whole ones and

54:57 Speaker 3: she was like, holy fuck. So and you know, I

55:02 Speaker 3: had spoke pot before, but this last time I spoke

55:05 Speaker 3: pot was nineteen ninety seven, you know, was it ninety

55:08 Speaker 3: seven Neil Young concert in Ohio. That was the last time.

55:10 Speaker 3: So I'm pretty straight. Yeah, my man went on a

55:16 Speaker 3: journey that Yeah, it was a journey. And what's crazy?

55:20 Speaker 3: Talk about disassociation. The next day during the day, I

55:23 Speaker 3: would like slip into that dissociadic state where I'm like, wait,

55:27 Speaker 3: I'm in that magical not so magical kingdom again. But

55:31 Speaker 3: if I knew it was what it was, I probably

55:34 Speaker 3: need a really good like shaman or someone who could

55:36 Speaker 3: guide me through. I could see. And I'm not in

55:39 Speaker 3: endorsing or condoning. Don't do drugs. Do not do drugs.

55:42 Speaker 3: I'm a mental health professional. But if you ever do it,

55:46 Speaker 3: make sure you know what you're doing, because that unknown

55:49 Speaker 3: fuels the panic. Like there was this point where people

55:52 Speaker 3: were saying, who came out of the house, Oh, that's

55:54 Speaker 3: just weed. Before we knew it was mushrooms, that's just weed.

55:56 Speaker 3: Stop being so pathetic, you know, And then when they

55:59 Speaker 3: knew it was mushrooms, are like, okay, this explains it.

56:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, there's nothing you should never like, never

56:09 Speaker 1: dose anyone. I've seen people dose. The others like, don't

56:12 Speaker 1: do that shit. It's not cool. A lot of people

56:16 Speaker 1: do it on the internet, like to their buddies just

56:18 Speaker 1: to like get a get a viral clip. It's not cool.

56:21 Speaker 1: But a situation like that, forgive me for laughing, but

56:25 Speaker 1: there is some humor and looking back at it, Sorry,

56:29 Speaker 1: I think I just muted you by accident.

56:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just saying get it.

56:33 Speaker 1: There is a little humor in looking back on it

56:35 Speaker 1: and being like, oh, I just went in and grabbed

56:40 Speaker 1: like the one thing in that refrigerator that was going

56:46 Speaker 1: to take me to another planet. And of course you

56:49 Speaker 1: grab it and and you eat two bo you know,

56:52 Speaker 1: two whole ones, and like something about not knowing a

56:57 Speaker 1: mushroom trips about to happen. It sounds fucking terrifying just

57:02 Speaker 1: to have it, like I can't even imagine what like

57:05 Speaker 1: going from like, uh, I'm about it's the end of

57:09 Speaker 1: the night. I'm just hungry too, What the fuck is

57:13 Speaker 1: going on? Why is there blue around my wife? Why

57:16 Speaker 1: am I questioning? Fucking like toenails? And like you just

57:20 Speaker 1: start thinking about weird shit. When did so? How long

57:24 Speaker 1: was it between eating it and finding out that it

57:26 Speaker 1: was mushrooms?

57:28 Speaker 3: Eating it? Funny, it was probably like two and a

57:31 Speaker 3: half two and a half, three hours, Yeah, pretty deep in.

57:36 Speaker 2: How long between eating it did it kick in? Though?

57:39 Speaker 1: Like an hour?

57:40 Speaker 2: Yeah?

57:41 Speaker 3: Probably like an hour. It was hot to know because

57:43 Speaker 3: I was frozen holding the fridge. It was almost like

57:47 Speaker 3: you know, you imagine that like you know, someone's like electriciti,

57:50 Speaker 3: you gotta like peel their things where she had to

57:51 Speaker 3: peel the fingers away from the fridge. And I'm there

57:54 Speaker 3: like in my boxes too, which is really we're just

57:56 Speaker 3: standing there and but I but then I started to think, like.

58:02 Speaker 2: Is that real?

58:03 Speaker 3: Like is that what the the the air around us

58:05 Speaker 3: looks like? Is it all just like data traveling?

58:12 Speaker 1: I can just I'm picturing just someone just glue to

58:17 Speaker 1: the fridge with just their boxes.

58:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a mess. The next day,

58:23 Speaker 3: I was so upset because I felt like, when this

58:25 Speaker 3: happens to you, it's such a violation, right, And of

58:28 Speaker 3: course it's my fucking fault. I mean I should I

58:30 Speaker 3: guess it is. And I mean I thought it was chocolate.

58:32 Speaker 3: You shouldn't have drugs in your house or in your fridge,

58:34 Speaker 3: And if.

58:35 Speaker 1: You do have drugs in your fridge, you should probably say, hey,

58:38 Speaker 1: by the way, there's that chocolate bar. Don't you fucking

58:42 Speaker 1: eat it unless you want to take a ride?

58:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, if anything but the DNA, Yeah that's what if

58:48 Speaker 2: a kid like went for that, because kids go for candy,

58:51 Speaker 2: they would eat the whole goddamn box.

58:53 Speaker 3: That is true. Yeah, maybe then she would.

58:55 Speaker 1: That's me, you know, I know that is actually whoever's

58:59 Speaker 1: house that was? That was very whoever did that? Sorry,

59:04 Speaker 1: should have marked it there. You know better, you know better.

59:08 Speaker 1: That's I'm so sorry that happened to you. Let's watch

59:11 Speaker 1: on a we're gonna round out here. But I want

59:15 Speaker 1: to watch this video. David Grush did interview? Who is

59:19 Speaker 1: the interview? Who's the guy that's interviewing them? I don't

59:24 Speaker 1: know this guy?

59:25 Speaker 2: I don't know, but why can't it be me? Guy?

59:27 Speaker 2: I want to talk to him so bad, even though idea.

59:29 Speaker 3: Yeah I had seen this guy before, I'm not sure

59:30 Speaker 3: it is.

59:31 Speaker 1: Get it, get in line, fio.

59:34 Speaker 2: I'm trying, God, damn it, I'm trying, all right.

59:37 Speaker 1: So, whoever this guy is? I wish I could read

59:41 Speaker 1: the fucking thing? Is it judicial watch?

59:44 Speaker 3: Judicial watch?

59:45 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, judicial Watch? I want to source it at least,

59:50 Speaker 1: But David Grush doing the interview, just like he does

59:53 Speaker 1: every other interview. It looks exactly the same location.

59:57 Speaker 11: So I can't tell them apart like looking backwards frustration,

1:00:02 Speaker 11: bad stories, looking forwards, looking ahead, whether it's weeks or months,

1:00:08 Speaker 11: reviewers and listeners and honest but a real sense of

1:00:15 Speaker 11: what the hell is happening and where are we going

1:00:18 Speaker 11: give them a forward view on this.

1:00:22 Speaker 9: Yeah, certainly, I have my own personal law fare strategy

1:00:24 Speaker 9: that I will execute responsibly an ingradient of veracity depending

1:00:30 Speaker 9: on things. Cheerwoman Luna right now is asking the Department

1:00:34 Speaker 9: of Defense to declassify about forty six videos. Some of

1:00:37 Speaker 9: those videos I've seen. They're interesting, but don't certainly prove

1:00:43 Speaker 9: the case that I've presented. But I think Luna is

1:00:47 Speaker 9: very smart to exercise that process and you know, threaten

1:00:52 Speaker 9: subpoenaing those records and getting those in receipt of Congress.

1:00:56 Speaker 9: And I think as the administration starts releasing things, and

1:01:00 Speaker 9: I'm speaking on my personal behalf here today, but I

1:01:02 Speaker 9: would recommend, you know, professionally to Congress to start using

1:01:06 Speaker 9: the power of subpoena. They already have the list of

1:01:09 Speaker 9: some of these hostile folks that ran those programs. Unfortunately,

1:01:14 Speaker 9: one of those individuals, Major General retired Neil mccasl and

1:01:18 Speaker 9: is currently missing, which is very concerning to me as well.

1:01:23 Speaker 3: That's a whole other topic.

1:01:24 Speaker 2: We could do a show on the other topic.

1:01:26 Speaker 9: But I think the President sees that this will cement

1:01:29 Speaker 9: in this legacy. But it's also a bipartisan thing. I

1:01:31 Speaker 9: don't want to make it political where releasing this is

1:01:34 Speaker 9: going to help the Republicans in the mid terms. I

1:01:36 Speaker 9: think there's a vice partisan consensus that they want this

1:01:39 Speaker 9: out there, and I would encourage our elected leadership to

1:01:42 Speaker 9: give the American public that. I mean, I certainly do

1:01:45 Speaker 9: not encourage irresponsible whistle blowing because I'm trying to set

1:01:50 Speaker 9: the standard to follow all the rules, and you know,

1:01:52 Speaker 9: everything I do and say, I bide by everything. So

1:01:56 Speaker 9: I think unfortunately the balls in the US government's court,

1:01:59 Speaker 9: or I guess an ally or an adversarial government if

1:02:03 Speaker 9: they wanted to take initiative. But I think Trump understands

1:02:09 Speaker 9: his legacy and once a lot of this information out there,

1:02:13 Speaker 9: and I would encourage his administration to do the right thing.

1:02:17 Speaker 9: And I encourage them if they they're meeting up resistance.

1:02:20 Speaker 9: There's certainly a coalition things I'm happy to participate in.

1:02:24 Speaker 9: And there's other folks in the woodwork that just need

1:02:27 Speaker 9: called up the duty to help them get through this.

1:02:30 Speaker 9: So I think they need to not be shy about

1:02:34 Speaker 9: asking for help. You know, us men, sometimes we don't

1:02:37 Speaker 9: like to ask for help. But I think in this case,

1:02:40 Speaker 9: it's all hands on deck, and I don't want to

1:02:42 Speaker 9: be too prophetic or say by a certain date something's

1:02:45 Speaker 9: going to come out, because there's a lot of causual factors.

1:02:49 Speaker 9: But I do have confidence that it's going to escalate

1:02:53 Speaker 9: in the next sixty to ninety days, and I think

1:02:55 Speaker 9: there's going to be a lot of pressure. I certainly

1:02:57 Speaker 9: know what Congress is doing, and I won't reveal that,

1:03:00 Speaker 9: but I do see a lot of pressure to get

1:03:04 Speaker 9: the substantive empirical holdings that I've talked about, not videos

1:03:07 Speaker 9: or anything like that, out of the ether. And you know,

1:03:11 Speaker 9: I'm hoping that's the case.

1:03:23 Speaker 1: So very interesting remarks one of the ones, one of

1:03:26 Speaker 1: the remarks that I find very There's a couple of

1:03:30 Speaker 1: things in there, of course, but when he says that

1:03:36 Speaker 1: the evidence that is coming out will verify his story.

1:03:42 Speaker 1: In particular, I notated on that because his version of

1:03:47 Speaker 1: the story is that the US government is in possession

1:03:50 Speaker 1: of not only craft but biologics. What that means is,

1:03:56 Speaker 1: you know, been a little bit gray whether we have

1:03:59 Speaker 1: you know, live beings or full beings or just you know,

1:04:04 Speaker 1: biological matter and many other things. Though, but that there

1:04:09 Speaker 1: may have been some sort of treaty signed between not signed.

1:04:15 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows if it's that like formal but

1:04:19 Speaker 1: agreement between non human intelligence and humans. So there's a

1:04:23 Speaker 1: lot to impact in what he's saying there and the

1:04:26 Speaker 1: definitive nature of what he's saying the thirty ninety days.

1:04:31 Speaker 1: We've again been through this before, but for Grush to

1:04:35 Speaker 1: say that it feels a little different, doesn't it?

1:04:38 Speaker 2: Yeah? Very much. So yeah, I think we're gonna get.

1:04:41 Speaker 1: Real, okay, saying that President Trump has a speed written

1:04:47 Speaker 1: right right, this is rush.

1:04:49 Speaker 2: He also mentioned in the past that some of these

1:04:51 Speaker 2: things might not be very appealing to look at, so

1:04:55 Speaker 2: even wonder what these things are going to look like exactly, Like,

1:04:57 Speaker 2: what are they talking about? It is that different? Tillions?

1:05:00 Speaker 2: Because these preachers also mentioned the reptilians as well, didn't

1:05:02 Speaker 2: they a couple of these preachers I saw being mentioned

1:05:05 Speaker 2: with them?

1:05:05 Speaker 1: Well that but but that, But That's what I mean

1:05:07 Speaker 1: is when he said his story specifically, his story almost

1:05:12 Speaker 1: covers every part of UFO lore to some degree, aside

1:05:18 Speaker 1: from like abduction, like everything else, every other box gets

1:05:22 Speaker 1: checked with Grush. So I I just again, I'm finally

1:05:28 Speaker 1: a hard time drawing a line of like, wait, so

1:05:32 Speaker 1: what is about to happen? What is what is that?

1:05:36 Speaker 1: What is coming down the pipe? How do these videos

1:05:39 Speaker 1: confirm his his testimony? Dan, what do you? What do

1:05:43 Speaker 1: you think of all that? Are you muted? You are muted?

1:05:48 Speaker 1: God damn it?

1:05:53 Speaker 2: All right?

1:05:53 Speaker 3: I unmuted myself that so, I mean, I Grush is

1:05:58 Speaker 3: extremely intelligent. He's very careful with his words. I have

1:06:02 Speaker 3: a lot of respect for him. I know he gets

1:06:04 Speaker 3: a lot of crap out there. I don't I don't

1:06:06 Speaker 3: get why. I mean, he's incredibly courageous in coming forward,

1:06:11 Speaker 3: and he's someone I just listened to and I trust.

1:06:15 Speaker 3: I don't think he knows like how clear or significant

1:06:18 Speaker 3: these documents are going to be. They are going to

1:06:20 Speaker 3: come out, that, you know, But I don't think we're

1:06:22 Speaker 3: going to see much more than maybe some of the

1:06:25 Speaker 3: releases that Corbell's released or some of the military released.

1:06:28 Speaker 3: I think they'll probably be better than what error released

1:06:31 Speaker 3: because they will feel like they have to. But you've

1:06:33 Speaker 3: got to realize, we're still working with a government that

1:06:35 Speaker 3: does not want disclosure. They're just going to give us

1:06:39 Speaker 3: more than they ever have. They're not going to provide certainty.

1:06:42 Speaker 3: They'll never be enough to provide certainty because they don't

1:06:45 Speaker 3: want that. They don't want the impact or the risk

1:06:47 Speaker 3: of the impact on the stock market, on society, on religion.

1:06:52 Speaker 3: They're going to keep it in this faith based area, right,

1:06:57 Speaker 3: or just enough data to be to say maybe, but

1:07:01 Speaker 3: not enough to say definitely. Right, that's mine And I

1:07:05 Speaker 3: know it's not exciting, it's not what we want. I

1:07:06 Speaker 3: love you guys optimistic This disclosed is going to happen

1:07:09 Speaker 3: in our lifetime. It's you know these forty six doction

1:07:12 Speaker 3: is forty nine whatever it is that on aliens. I mean,

1:07:15 Speaker 3: I guess it could be. But we're talking about Trump,

1:07:18 Speaker 3: who I'm not really interested in it, you know, I

1:07:20 Speaker 3: don't really care. But he's doing it because the people

1:07:23 Speaker 3: are interested, and that's good. But the people in control

1:07:27 Speaker 3: and power. You think suddenly they're going to now give

1:07:30 Speaker 3: it up?

1:07:30 Speaker 2: Why?

1:07:31 Speaker 1: Oh hell no, I don't. I don't think they're going

1:07:36 Speaker 1: to give it up that easy. And that's why I

1:07:37 Speaker 1: do think people are going missing and are dying. I

1:07:42 Speaker 1: think the deep state's trying to send a message to

1:07:46 Speaker 1: the people in the public facing push like Burlison, like Birchet,

1:07:51 Speaker 1: like Luna, all these people that you know, the age

1:07:57 Speaker 1: of disclosure has brought us all these people that are

1:08:00 Speaker 1: pushing for this, that have been you know, at one

1:08:04 Speaker 1: point or another pulled into a room and said, why

1:08:07 Speaker 1: are you doing this? Stop doing this. You know they

1:08:09 Speaker 1: all have a story about it. So the next level is, Okay,

1:08:16 Speaker 1: now we gotta now, we gotta show them we mean business.

1:08:21 Speaker 1: And certain people die, certain people go missing. But there's

1:08:26 Speaker 1: one theme, right, but you can't quite prove it. And uh,

1:08:31 Speaker 1: it's more so said, I feel like it's sending a

1:08:33 Speaker 1: message to those that are pushing like, hey, you're like,

1:08:36 Speaker 1: you're getting a little fucking close. Don't make us keep

1:08:40 Speaker 1: doing this. So I don't. I think there's a very

1:08:42 Speaker 1: big fight happening. There's almost a civil war behind the

1:08:46 Speaker 1: scenes of the people that are either proxies for the

1:08:52 Speaker 1: deep state or representing them knowingly.

1:08:56 Speaker 2: You just had an assassination attempt on his life by

1:08:59 Speaker 2: a guy that worked in that Yeah, that's connected, it's connected.

1:09:04 Speaker 1: How did that guy make him through? That video is crazy?

1:09:07 Speaker 1: The bomb dog says hello to the guy.

1:09:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bomb dog hits on him, The guy gains

1:09:12 Speaker 2: the dog back, the dog hits on him again. Then

1:09:15 Speaker 2: the guy you see the guy look at the guy

1:09:17 Speaker 2: and then he turns his left and then a guy

1:09:19 Speaker 2: runs out of the room. There's no way it's not connected.

1:09:21 Speaker 2: It's an inside job. And I think the Deep States

1:09:24 Speaker 2: behind and they're probably trying to get Trump not to

1:09:26 Speaker 2: do the UFO stuff. Now, to get back to what

1:09:28 Speaker 2: you were saying, you have to look back at you

1:09:30 Speaker 2: have to look at who Trump's uncle was. John Trump

1:09:33 Speaker 2: was a big player in the UFO program back in

1:09:35 Speaker 2: the day. Trump's son is big into UFOs. I think

1:09:39 Speaker 2: Trump is more into UFOs than than what he lets

1:09:41 Speaker 2: on because he plays KOI with this ship, you know

1:09:45 Speaker 2: what I mean. I think it's like bait and switch

1:09:47 Speaker 2: with him. Oh yeah, whatever, so that you know, and

1:09:49 Speaker 2: then next thing you know, he's dropping some crazy shit.

1:09:52 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see some disclosure. His son is

1:09:54 Speaker 2: big into UFOs, big into UFOs.

1:09:57 Speaker 3: Jude I didn't.

1:10:00 Speaker 2: J J and Junior is highly influential on that. He

1:10:05 Speaker 2: doesn't son son does. His son does a whole show

1:10:09 Speaker 2: interview with All Your House? Did I not know this?

1:10:17 Speaker 1: Right before the election, his son did an interview with

1:10:20 Speaker 1: Colthorn and Alisondo and and yeah uh and even the

1:10:26 Speaker 1: youngest one. He's got his finger on the fucking pulse.

1:10:32 Speaker 1: That one, that's the one you're gonna really watch out for.

1:10:36 Speaker 1: He's the one. He's the legacy. If anyone's going to

1:10:40 Speaker 1: become a political figure later on in life, it's that guy.

1:10:44 Speaker 1: He's been I don't mean this in a weird, creepy way,

1:10:48 Speaker 1: but he's groomed for it. Like the others are a

1:10:52 Speaker 1: little bit like. I don't know. I don't see it

1:10:57 Speaker 1: being in their future. I think the Trump thing is

1:11:00 Speaker 1: gonna be a little sour for a while, but by

1:11:04 Speaker 1: the time Baron is president age, I think that kid's

1:11:08 Speaker 1: gonna make a difference. Yeah, anyway, beside the point I got.

1:11:15 Speaker 1: I wanted to play this clip because I didn't have

1:11:18 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be able to find a

1:11:19 Speaker 1: reason for it, but Burchett said, total disclosure. So I

1:11:25 Speaker 1: have to play it.

1:11:28 Speaker 4: Until some of the briefings I've been in. But and

1:11:33 Speaker 4: then I'm walking down the street and can I wait?

1:11:37 Speaker 1: I played that one earlier? They all look the same.

1:11:39 Speaker 1: I think I played the wrong one. Sorry, no I should.

1:11:47 Speaker 1: This is why you name things, en, folks. Where's the

1:11:52 Speaker 1: origin one?

1:12:03 Speaker 4: Until some of the briefings I've been in?

1:12:06 Speaker 1: But I think something fucked up because they're all the

1:12:09 Speaker 1: same now that I'm looking at it, I uploaded five

1:12:12 Speaker 1: of them and they're all the same clip, so it's

1:12:15 Speaker 1: actually not me. Damn it. He said total disclosure, and

1:12:19 Speaker 1: I made a cool little video. So when he says

1:12:21 Speaker 1: total disclosure, I put the words. You guys will have

1:12:24 Speaker 1: to just picture it in your head now. I don't know,

1:12:27 Speaker 1: but yeah, that uh that's gonna I mean, I don't

1:12:33 Speaker 1: have any does it? Am I missing anything that anyone

1:12:36 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about and wanted to touch on? Uh?

1:12:39 Speaker 1: Did I miss any any big news article, any headline.

1:12:45 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missing one thing and I can't

1:12:49 Speaker 1: quite put my fucking finger on it.

1:12:52 Speaker 2: What's up?

1:12:54 Speaker 1: I can't quite put my finger on it. Where Dan?

1:13:01 Speaker 3: I'm going through my feed now just to see you

1:13:03 Speaker 3: because I feel like the same there was one other

1:13:04 Speaker 3: thing that you were going to maybe talk about.

1:13:07 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missing something.

1:13:08 Speaker 2: What the fuck?

1:13:09 Speaker 1: It's gonna itch at me all night? Ah, But it's

1:13:15 Speaker 1: all right. We can wrap it up here if no

1:13:17 Speaker 1: one can think of it, because if it can't be

1:13:19 Speaker 1: that important, if if it's not coming right to my mind.

1:13:23 Speaker 3: Oh, I think Jeremy Cobell's documentary.

1:13:26 Speaker 1: Oh shit good no no no no no good good call,

1:13:28 Speaker 1: good call, good call, could call so and what I

1:13:33 Speaker 1: did that was the thing in the Birchett video that

1:13:35 Speaker 1: I did want to show, and that's why I clipped

1:13:38 Speaker 1: all these because Birchett talks about how he's going to

1:13:41 Speaker 1: be briefed. I don't know when they recorded the episode,

1:13:45 Speaker 1: but the episode came out today. I think he recorded it.

1:13:50 Speaker 1: He must have recorded it at least the day before.

1:13:54 Speaker 1: So Burchette was talking about being briefed tomorrow. The reason

1:13:58 Speaker 1: I bring this up is because I don't know if

1:14:00 Speaker 1: tomorrow is today, or if it was tomorrow or a

1:14:03 Speaker 1: week from now, or are a week from now a

1:14:06 Speaker 1: week past. I don't know when they recorded that episode,

1:14:10 Speaker 1: but he was about to be briefed by Pete Hegseeth

1:14:15 Speaker 1: about something and Corbella had reported on it that something

1:14:21 Speaker 1: was about to come out in like the next twenty

1:14:23 Speaker 1: four hours, and that was kind of lining up. So

1:14:27 Speaker 1: things are getting to like this weird point. I don't know,

1:14:30 Speaker 1: and I feel like we're on the cusp of something.

1:14:33 Speaker 1: I feel like that wave is coming. I kind of

1:14:38 Speaker 1: am getting that pit of my stomach feeling and I

1:14:41 Speaker 1: don't know why.

1:14:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean George Knap just posted or Jeremy yeah,

1:14:46 Speaker 3: that we're going to see some documents tomorrow that the

1:14:48 Speaker 3: release will start happening tomorrow.

1:14:51 Speaker 1: Do you guys think Corbell is tapped into that point

1:14:54 Speaker 1: where he actually may know if something is coming down

1:14:58 Speaker 1: and he's helping coordinate and dump out some videos.

1:15:03 Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I do actually, because that's where they got

1:15:05 Speaker 2: all these damn videos from the first place. Isn't it

1:15:08 Speaker 2: like we've literally watched some of.

1:15:09 Speaker 3: Them were leaked. Some of them were leaked by by

1:15:11 Speaker 3: military you know, personnel, but well just really well connected

1:15:16 Speaker 3: I mean like him and him and George, I mean

1:15:18 Speaker 3: they know so many people and that they are the

1:15:22 Speaker 3: people to go to to release stuff. So yeah, it

1:15:24 Speaker 3: might be they might know about it.

1:15:26 Speaker 1: If I was the government, if I was, if I was,

1:15:30 Speaker 1: if I had those forty six videos, and from what

1:15:32 Speaker 1: I hear, those forty six videos are forty six that

1:15:35 Speaker 1: we've never seen before. They're all military, they're high quality,

1:15:40 Speaker 1: and they it will be the definitive like we have

1:15:45 Speaker 1: proof that something is here.

1:15:48 Speaker 3: That that Where did the list of forty six come from?

1:15:50 Speaker 3: How did they choose those?

1:15:51 Speaker 1: Luna I think I think that this is why I

1:15:55 Speaker 1: asked that question. I think she got that because Corbell's

1:15:59 Speaker 1: long talked about how he knows certain videos, the names,

1:16:04 Speaker 1: what they're labeled as, because people have told him that.

1:16:07 Speaker 1: I think she got a big at least a big

1:16:10 Speaker 1: portion of the list directly from Corbel and and the

1:16:14 Speaker 1: people that have gone to Corbel. So I think there

1:16:17 Speaker 1: is some sort of kind of like mutual benefit there

1:16:22 Speaker 1: that they're kind of like, all right, we're going to

1:16:24 Speaker 1: use them as an outlet to, you know, help us

1:16:27 Speaker 1: get the set the playing field. It's they're so they're

1:16:33 Speaker 1: too influential, they have too much crossover for for for

1:16:38 Speaker 1: those people in government not to use it, it'd be

1:16:40 Speaker 1: kind of stupid not to, right, Okay.

1:16:49 Speaker 3: Yep, I agree, I agree, And and and you know,

1:16:53 Speaker 3: I'm sure they had specific videos that they knew about

1:16:56 Speaker 3: and they either from Floyer releases and some of those

1:17:00 Speaker 3: are on the list, So yeah.

1:17:01 Speaker 2: They.

1:17:04 Speaker 1: Okay, And again Grush says that these forty six videos

1:17:06 Speaker 1: and that this announcement or whatever's coming, that this will

1:17:10 Speaker 1: confirm his story, and confirming his story again go back

1:17:14 Speaker 1: to what his story is. That's kind of crazy. If

1:17:18 Speaker 1: that's what's about to happen. I wonder what happened, like

1:17:21 Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder what the catalyst will be and

1:17:26 Speaker 1: how it will be presented. What does modern disclosure look like?

1:17:30 Speaker 2: Right, it's not we're going I hope we're gonna find out.

1:17:34 Speaker 1: I really do, because it's not. It's not. There's There

1:17:38 Speaker 1: was a book written, a pretty well known book in

1:17:40 Speaker 1: the UFO community by Bryce Sable and Richard Dolan called

1:17:44 Speaker 1: a d After Disclosure, and it pitted a scenario where

1:17:49 Speaker 1: the president comes out under a podium and does the

1:17:52 Speaker 1: what I call is the Ancient Aliens disclosure my fellow Americans,

1:17:57 Speaker 1: or honestly, the Nick Pope disclosure, and uh, may he

1:18:01 Speaker 1: rest in peace. But the president comes up to the

1:18:04 Speaker 1: podium all talked away, kind of like an Obama. Obama

1:18:08 Speaker 1: would have done that like that. I feel like when

1:18:10 Speaker 1: I pictured this kind of disclosure, I picture Obama doing

1:18:13 Speaker 1: it because it's very proper, My fellow Americans, people of

1:18:17 Speaker 1: the world, we are not alone. Here's the uh, you know,

1:18:23 Speaker 1: big motivational speech about our one species. Insert that here. Right,

1:18:29 Speaker 1: it's a very But for if it was Trump, like

1:18:32 Speaker 1: you just know, it wouldn't be that. It would There's

1:18:35 Speaker 1: no way that it would just be cut and dry.

1:18:38 Speaker 1: He would throw in a jabbt chi like it would

1:18:41 Speaker 1: be kind of comedic actually to see what Trump's disclosure

1:18:44 Speaker 1: speech would be like, because you know it wouldn't be

1:18:47 Speaker 1: one hundred percent serious. You know, it wouldn't be tell me,

1:18:50 Speaker 1: you tell me, it would be like it's impossible. You know,

1:18:55 Speaker 1: you would fucking throw in some jab Absolutely, we suspected

1:19:01 Speaker 1: Rosie o'donalds Aliens.

1:19:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is the reason we went her around.

1:19:08 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, we went to to get the grace, the gra.

1:19:14 Speaker 1: I know that there would be like it would be

1:19:17 Speaker 1: the funniest version of disclosure from a president.

1:19:22 Speaker 2: It's true, it's not on a circle drive.

1:19:25 Speaker 1: I can't It's my favorite. I can't. I can't wait

1:19:29 Speaker 1: to thinking about Trump doing like the disclosure is the

1:19:33 Speaker 1: funniest thing to be because I can I can think

1:19:36 Speaker 1: his voice. I just can't intimidate it. But like he

1:19:40 Speaker 1: he would, Yeah, he would totally throw a job at

1:19:42 Speaker 1: like someone for looking like an alien, like it would well.

1:19:47 Speaker 2: He just said the one guy had huge ears. You

1:19:49 Speaker 2: could hear everything right the other day.

1:19:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like what do you quickly? I just wrap

1:19:57 Speaker 1: up thoughts. We know disclosure wouldn't be like like that.

1:20:00 Speaker 1: What do you guys think quick? Day one? What do

1:20:03 Speaker 1: you think modern day disclosure looks like it happens? President

1:20:07 Speaker 1: announces it first day? What does it look like? Dan?

1:20:10 Speaker 1: And then tell me where people can find you?

1:20:14 Speaker 6: Yeah?

1:20:14 Speaker 3: Day one, no one goes to work. Very few people

1:20:17 Speaker 3: go to work. There's like big, big shock, time, grieving, excite.

1:20:22 Speaker 3: Some are excited, some are partying, some are depressed. You

1:20:26 Speaker 3: can find me on x at uap docta. It's not

1:20:30 Speaker 3: a professional thing for me. I just enjoy it. It's

1:20:31 Speaker 3: a hobby. I love to reach out to others. Chat anytime.

1:20:36 Speaker 3: You can DM me and please follow me.

1:20:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely veto day one modern disclosure.

1:20:44 Speaker 2: I think you have possibility of just absolute chaos and

1:20:47 Speaker 2: riots or people just don't give a shit, like it's

1:20:50 Speaker 2: either or. For me, it's either or. Honestly, at this point,

1:20:54 Speaker 2: people are like what we've lived through and seen, it's

1:20:57 Speaker 2: just like next you know what I mean? So it

1:21:00 Speaker 2: be it could be no big deal. That's what I

1:21:02 Speaker 2: kind of hope it is, because I got a family

1:21:04 Speaker 2: and I don't want to sit here and defend my

1:21:06 Speaker 2: house from chaos and cuckoo birds, you know what I mean,

1:21:10 Speaker 2: and you can find me. I have to YouTube channels,

1:21:12 Speaker 2: once for gaming and one is for UFOs and paranormal stuff.

1:21:16 Speaker 2: So it's Vido UFO seventy six on YouTube. That's also

1:21:20 Speaker 2: my X handle, and then The Perfect Storm of Gaming

1:21:22 Speaker 2: is my gaming channel. That's a much larger channel, and

1:21:25 Speaker 2: I do live streams and I actually interview anybody. So

1:21:28 Speaker 2: doctor Dan, if you like retro gaming, you can come

1:21:30 Speaker 2: on the show and they tell me you.

1:21:31 Speaker 3: Want all right, Okay, Oh, I did actually just start

1:21:35 Speaker 3: a YouTube channel. It's UAP doc Films, but I just

1:21:40 Speaker 3: started it got like five six videos. It's basically my

1:21:42 Speaker 3: my ex videos. I put on x those videos going

1:21:46 Speaker 3: onto YouTube, but they do. Yeah, you do great stuff.

1:21:51 Speaker 3: I loved all you guys that that take the time

1:21:54 Speaker 3: to cut together portions of videos and keep everyone updated

1:22:00 Speaker 3: with what's going on, give your analysis. It's so helpful

1:22:04 Speaker 3: and it's very much appreciated to guys like me who

1:22:09 Speaker 3: are kind of constantly go, go go, and maybe don't.

1:22:13 Speaker 3: I mean, I try to listen to as much podcasting

1:22:15 Speaker 3: as I can, but you know, you guys make it

1:22:18 Speaker 3: so great and so easy to kind of pick out

1:22:21 Speaker 3: what's needed, go where's where, where is needed, and see

1:22:25 Speaker 3: and do everything and try to be able to absorb

1:22:28 Speaker 3: at all because for some reason we're eating good lately.

1:22:32 Speaker 1: And again, let me guys, let me know what you

1:22:34 Speaker 1: guys think. What does day one of a modern day

1:22:37 Speaker 1: disclosure look like? In the comments below. Again, all my

1:22:42 Speaker 1: links everything will be in the description below as well

1:22:44 Speaker 1: as these gentlemen's exes and youtubees. Stay humble, stay kind,

1:22:51 Speaker 1: stay vigilant. No matter what, we are all still human

1:22:55 Speaker 1: and we do need to have a tomorrow. So if

1:22:58 Speaker 1: disclosure does come, remember there's a time to party and celebrate.

1:23:04 Speaker 1: But we don't need to be violent. That's kind of

1:23:06 Speaker 1: fucking crazy. But you know, I think people are going

1:23:09 Speaker 1: to handle it differently. I think people are gonna some people,

1:23:13 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think it would be much

1:23:14 Speaker 1: more of an internal crisis. It's going to be how

1:23:17 Speaker 1: you set your kid at the table, right, It's like

1:23:19 Speaker 1: the Santa Claus conversation. How do you sit at the

1:23:22 Speaker 1: table and tell your child that you know, Santa Claus

1:23:26 Speaker 1: isn't real or you know? So I think it's going

1:23:28 Speaker 1: to be. I think it's going to be very existential,

1:23:31 Speaker 1: just like the pandemic kind of forced us to stop

1:23:35 Speaker 1: and slow down. I think a disclosure would really hold

1:23:40 Speaker 1: up a mirror to humanity, and I kind of think

1:23:42 Speaker 1: we need it.

1:23:43 Speaker 2: I do.

1:23:44 Speaker 1: I really kind of think we need it. So who

1:23:46 Speaker 1: knows what tomorrow will bring, and I'm looking forward to it. Guys,

1:23:51 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining the panel tonight.

1:23:53 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

1:23:54 Speaker 1: All right, see you guys next time.

1:24:00 Speaker 6: Men entertaining entity today contain.

1:24:35 Speaker 1: I think that's