#88: Ashton Forbes-Investigator **VANISHED WITHOUT A TRACE**FLIGHT MH370

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2:50 we're here with a rather interesting character, Ashton Forbes, who arguably is I

2:57 would say, the de facto investigator for the MH three seventy, which is

3:06 ironic how this whole thing came about. I'm going to let you do your

3:09 own kind of introduction, Ashton, but thank you for coming on. Yeah,

3:15 thanks Tyler, thanks so I appreciate you having me on. So Yeah,

3:19 my name is Ashion Forbes. And what we're gonna be talking about today

3:22 is the first ever community led investigation that after it ended up getting censored on

3:28 social media, I kind of took the reins up started writing the case on

3:30 it. I've treated it like you would in a criminal investigation in terms of

3:36 digging into the facts, trying to uncover the story, using the scientific method

3:39 to come up with a hypothesis, have the evidence line up with that hypothesis,

3:44 and when it did not, then to re establish new hypotheses until we

3:47 get to the point where I think we are at today, where we have

3:50 a very clear idea of what the total picture is. And despite that though,

3:53 there is still some mystery. Right. So, you are an IT

3:59 consultant and you did grow up in the you know, interested in the UAP

4:02 phenomenon, and it's it was around that twenty seventeen time where those Navy videos

4:10 that you know ended up being admitted to being real when they came out that

4:15 you kind of came out of the shadows along with a lot of people.

4:19 But you know what what interested you in and how did you get involved in

4:28 this case? Because from from being in just you know, from having a

4:32 a inquisitive mind and being interested is one thing, but going to full on

4:38 investigation is a whole other. So I'd like you to tell us the story

4:43 of that flight and and maybe how how it triggered something and how you got

4:49 involved in it. Yeah, I mean I would say that. You know,

4:55 I've always been interested in flight crashes in general. I've been actually afraid

5:00 a flying for most of my life in general. So yeah, looking in

5:03 the flights. I just feel uncomfortable on flights. Maybe it's a situation where

5:06 you're not in a control type of situation. You know, you know,

5:10 you know, you know, it's it's a sorry to cut you off,

5:13 funny anecdote. Is like when people say, oh, have a have a

5:16 safe flight, It's like, oh, like it's in my control. Like,

5:20 yeah, sure, I'll try. I'll sit there all safe. But

5:25 yeah, I mean just between us, like every time I get on a

5:29 plane, I just come to terms with the fact that this might be the

5:30 last time I ever go anywhere. So that kind of is the impetuous for

5:35 me to look into flights because I want to understand why they happen. You

5:39 know, I used to be I used to read Malcolm Gladwell and you you

5:43 learned that things. It's not just one thing to fail, and for something

5:46 like this to happen, it's usually a cascade of failures that usually happen to

5:49 lead to an emergency situation. And so you know, I looked into these

5:55 videos or not, I looked into these situations in twenty fourteen, read a

6:00 lot of what the experts had put out there, and I was never very

6:03 confident or comfortable with the ending and the conclusion of how the narratives had broken

6:09 out. I remember actually specifically reading the Wired article about a fire and thinking

6:14 that that really resonated with me because it seemed like the simplest solutions are sometimes

6:18 the best explanations. And so, as you pointed out, I wasn't ever

6:24 really part of the UFO community actually until very recently, and i've in twenty

6:29 four seventeen, I started to watch and see like a lot of videos that

6:31 are posted online. Never really found any that were super resonated with me.

6:36 The only ones I think that I found the most compelling or stuff like the

6:40 Turkey situation and other videos that are very highly credible, but nothing like you've

6:46 seen, yeah the Turkey videos. Yeah, So nothing that I had ever

6:50 really seen that really kind of. I thought, well, this is like

6:55 absolute proof until I saw these videos and they re emerged on eighth on the

7:00 UFO's subreddit. They had been posted several times before, and they have been

7:04 archived back to twenty fourteen, just days and weeks after the events. I

7:10 actually remember seeing the thermal. I think probably thousands of other people can attest

7:14 to this that they actually saw those videos back then and probably, like me,

7:18 ignored them because we had no basis at all to understand that they could

7:23 potentially even be real at that time, right, we really, potentially you

7:26 could argue that we need to be in twenty twenty three in order to even

7:30 understand that these videos could potentially be real. And even sometimes even today,

7:33 you know a lot of people in comments and probably people in comments here will

7:36 say these have to be fake because our collective conscious hasn't risen to the point

7:41 where they can realize of what we're seeing is actually authentic, right, right?

7:46 And I think you make a good point about, you know, the

7:50 acclamation of people getting to know what fleer video looks like, people getting to

7:57 know what thermal imaging and for anyone doesn't know fleear is forward looking infrared you

8:05 know that's the so the tic TAC, the gimbal, all those clips,

8:09 those are are forward looking infrared, so you know the timing. I think

8:16 you are right for twenty twenty three. People need to be familiarized with the

8:20 fact that these systems not only exist, but their capability. Yeah, and

8:26 not even just that. It's so the fleer is the first thing right twenty

8:28 seventeen. The Trump satellite picture that he posted online twenty nineteen. Yeah,

8:33 so what is that? Because I'm not sure I heard you reference that in

8:39 your in the podcast that you did with the other guys. What do you

8:43 what do you? What is that the Trump satellite photo? Pull it up

8:48 here. I think if I can share, We're going to see if this

8:50 will work. Thank you, Derek for becoming a YouTube member. We appreciate

8:56 that. We're trying to hit our goal before the end of the year,

9:03 and also today on YouTube. We just started doing a lot more on YouTube,

9:07 So thank you. Can you see this picture? I can now?

9:11 Yeah, so this is the Trump I call it leak, but it's the

9:16 picture that he posted online. You can see in the top right here it

9:18 says August twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, Okay, so what we're looking at

9:22 here is a still image. Now, when this picture first showed up,

9:26 a lot of experts did not think this could be real because it's sake.

9:30 Yeah, because god, because simple, I would say, a lot of

9:35 people don't think it's real because a Trump posted it, right, So there

9:41 you have your the people that just don't they don't agree with anything he posts.

9:46 And then there are some things that that that stand out to me.

9:50 So yeah, and the thing about this is that you know, this is

9:54 an authentic picture, and a man named Marco Lambrook is the one who was

9:58 able to kind of reverse you're out that this came from USA two to four,

10:03 which is a satellite that went up in twenty eleven, the same year

10:05 that we assumed that the satellite that was sending the data and our video went

10:09 up, and it shows very similar optical capabilities. This is an infrared picture

10:15 that we're seeing here at this point, and in this picture we can tell

10:18 it's daytime very clearly. It's a very very bright picture. We can see

10:22 this huge shadow that's kind of going off this tower here. And this is

10:26 how they were very very easily able to determine the time that this was taken

10:30 and the exact satellite that was in the right location to take this picture.

10:33 Essentially, so this one is quite a bit different than ours, where in

10:37 our video we don't have any shadows anywhere, which our augmentication that it's in

10:43 the middle of the night, you know, because otherwise there should be shadows

10:46 all over from the clouds, plane, et cetera. And that's why people

10:50 struggle with this idea of we're looking at a false color ir in our in

10:54 our video is that this is taken at night. And again, the angle

10:56 here indicates a lower orbit satellite. If it's a geostationary satellite, these sides

11:01 are extremely far away, meaning they're looking straight down on there straight So yeah,

11:05 so they're straight down on the Earth. Where's the okay, So that

11:11 that that puts that basis. So so we know that this satellite is the

11:16 one that's up there around the time and it is around the area of Yeah,

11:22 so go ahead, well how does so how does one track that?

11:26 How does one know that this satellite was in this area at this time,

11:31 because a lot of people don't know that you can get that information. Yeah,

11:37 there's actually a public website that you can find that has the orbital trajectories

11:41 going back dozens of years that amateur astronomers can look up and see. Because

11:46 these satellites are visible from people, so amateur astronomers are tracking them, and

11:50 these satellites can't move around, so they're very very accurate those trajectories that they

11:54 have out there. So our team went ahead and use those trajectories and was

12:00 able to figure out all the satellites that could be in the various area.

12:03 And because what we see in our satellite video is a stereostopic picture, what

12:09 that means is it's two satellites that are next to each other. So I'll

12:13 go ahead and just share real quick the satellite videos. You can see what

12:16 we're looking at, and that would essentially create a three D effect, a

12:20 three D map of what we're seeing exactly. So the first thing that we

12:24 look at when we see this is the original from regisided. Now this is

12:26 the archive footage that we're seeing here. Is that there's two scrunched together side

12:30 by side. It almost looks like someone duplicated it. But what we were

12:33 able to prove is that this is actually two different cameras slightly different angles from

12:37 one another, from outer space. They are about eleven hundred kilometers in the

12:41 sky, which is consistent with these low earth orbit satellites like lou Trump saw

12:46 or what Trump leaked. And you can tell it's similar optical capabilities as well.

12:50 Interestingly enough, you see the stutter which is six frames per second,

12:54 which indicates that this satellite's looking at a very very wide field of view,

12:58 much much bigger than one figure. You can also see this mouse down here.

13:03 This mouse. Yeah, so that's that's the one that's taking across us,

13:07 across the battlefield basically. So actually that one's not moving. The coordinates

13:11 you can see it now. The coordinates stay the same, which means that

13:15 that's not what's moving. The coordinates means there's probably a joystick or a specialized

13:18 mouse, or they're using like a lock and unlock type situation where they can

13:24 move that. Now, notice the mouse goes off the screen in several directions,

13:28 indicating that what you're seeing there is a much larger field of view than

13:31 what we are seeing there. So that's again consistent with this very largest satellite

13:35 field of view that we would see. So if I go ahead and switch

13:37 over, ah, and do you think that I mean because they're clearly smart

13:43 enough that they tick off any sense or data, any data that could have

13:48 been compromising to the US government, like in the in the videos that we

13:54 see of the the UFOs that you know, the ones News Nation put up

14:00 every day with the UFO news that they do every day. Now, yeah,

14:05 you see the sat that all the data that's on the sides of it,

14:09 it seems someone was smart enough to either crop it out in the fleet

14:15 the thermal video or which it admit, I mean, would lead me to

14:20 think that they were cognizant in like, I don't want to compromise national security,

14:26 but I think this needs to be out there. Yeah, I think

14:30 that you're getting into a lot of what I call the intents of the videos

14:33 is that you can tell they take away the HUD data, they're cropping this

14:35 satellite even thank you, they're even cropping out this drone in the satellite picture.

14:41 So and that satellite one was the first video that leaked. So essentially

14:45 the satellite video should have been enough absolute proof because we have the coordinates in

14:48 there. The date on the red side leak says two thousand or March twelfth,

14:54 which is only four days after the event. This is even before the

14:56 narrative of the South Indian Ocean was even developed. So the person that leaked

15:01 this would have thought that this is absolute proof. They're going to be able

15:03 to figure out the satellite that was in the area, and that wasn't enough,

15:07 So that's why they leaked the second one. Now we have a second

15:09 video that's showing the same thing from a different angle, and again in both

15:13 of them, they're minimizing the amount of damage to the US military and intelligence,

15:18 which tells me that this person is a and operator. Potentially that they

15:20 saw it in real time and had an emotional reaction that they knew no one

15:24 would be able to prove what really happened without this happening, and they were

15:28 not a spy. If this person's a spy, they're going to go ahead

15:33 and just give this to China or Russia without leaking into the public, right.

15:37 So this really helps you build a psychological profile for the person who might

15:41 have leaked this, and that's why several weeks later, which we'll get into

15:43 probably later in this podcast, that's when I started to thinking, you know

15:48 what, I think I can find out who this person is just from the

15:50 psychological profile of the intent and the footage really so very interesting. Yeah,

15:54 and I think we have identified that person. But before we do that,

15:58 I want to show you this creation as well, because I think this recreation

16:02 is extremely damning. Okay, and please and and if that I'm saying,

16:11 if you find that operator for real, for real, I mean we're talking

16:17 nail in the coffin kind of deal. Exactly. It's it's over. It's

16:21 a wrap at that point. Let me add your screen it this is let

16:26 me know if you can. So what is this? What are we seeing?

16:29 This is USA two two nine. This is the satellite that we found

16:32 that If you look at the top here you can see the time. Sorry,

16:34 the time we're looking for is eighteen forty UTC. So I'll pause it

16:38 once we get there so you can see this satellite is at this point right

16:41 here, at eighteen thirty six. The plane is somewhere over here around the

16:45 Nicobar Islands. So this alone proves the United States government had visual or tracking

16:52 of this plane. The satellite is there in the right location. There's no

16:56 chance I couldn't have seen it. The purpose of these satellites, which are

16:59 not satellites, to track boats, missiles and planes, and it's to create

17:03 this three D battlefield space that we see. Now, this bubble we see

17:07 here is one of the coordinates in our cordinate shift. Now we actually believe

17:11 that this the satellite can see much wider than what we see here. This

17:14 is just a one thousand kilometer diameter, potentially can see much much wider.

17:18 The place where this plane situation is happening is probably just north of these two

17:22 small islands that you see south of this bubble. So this is definitely within

17:26 the field of view of these satellites. And this is USA two two nine

17:30 has a sister satellite right next to it, officially classified as debris. Now,

17:36 amateur astronomers though, can see the satellite. And if you look up

17:38 these NOS satellites, which USA two two nine is one of them, there

17:42 are very few that are within the time range where we think that it could

17:45 potentially be taken this video. The Trump one was twenty eleven. This one

17:49 also went up in twenty eleven. So to me from a technical capability,

17:53 this is you know, I call this the smoking gun. Is that right

17:57 here at about eighteen thirty nine, we're looking directly down at this point.

18:03 Now, some people will argue, well, why are the if this is

18:04 the lower orbit satellite and it's moving this fast, why is it not the

18:11 picture not moving that quickly? And the reason for that is what we're looking

18:14 at is the Sibbers system. So what I'll do is I'll go ahead and

18:18 show you as well what this Sibber system looks like, because when you get

18:22 a look at this, it kind of explains everything around what we're seeing.

18:26 Is that what we're seeing here is basically Google Earth video playback, and it's

18:30 using these satellites to constantly pull information. I'm going to go ahead and mute

18:36 this so that you guys don't have to listen to the sound. But let

18:38 me go ahead and share this one now present and then you can put it

18:41 up on the screen for us as well. Again, I mean who and

18:47 I degree with Billy. Whoever made these is doing a really good job.

18:52 Yeah, So go ahead, and if you pull this up so you can

18:56 see on this one that this is how these satellites are working. This is

18:59 the system. You can see these geostationary ones that are extremely far away,

19:03 So this is Zibber. So this is the collection of satellites exactly. And

19:07 look at that part right there where it's all just recording that information at once.

19:11 These ones with these very long orbits are the millennial orbits, and then

19:15 you can see the lower orbit ones are gonna be moving much quicker. The

19:18 ones that are further out are gonna be your geostationary satellite exactly. So these

19:22 are scanning the Earth all the time, and what they're doing is able to

19:25 create this three D battlefield space we see. So essentially they're using a computer

19:29 program taking all this data and that's why you don't see it moving very much

19:32 because the point of this is that it's for signals intelligence purposes for people that

19:37 might be like on an airplane that can log into this view it and then

19:40 they can give battlefield awareness to assets that are potentially there nearby. They can

19:45 be controlling the drone, you know, remotely using this stuff. So this

19:48 is extremely advanced. And here again you can see how it's scanned. Look

19:51 how huge did field The views of these field views right very wide, super

19:56 large. And again here's the same thing again. Given moment there's a satellite

20:02 that is picking up feed of real time Earth, there's no way we can

20:11 lose a plane. You'd think exactly And that's a good point is that even

20:15 before I saw these videos, I knew for sure the US government had to

20:18 know more about what happened here. They had to be tracking it, they

20:22 had to happen on video, and if it did crash into the ocean,

20:25 they one would have seen a debris field and been able to find it right

20:27 away. So this idea that they had no idea, didn't know is extremely

20:33 damning to the official narrative. And how much because this aside from the two

20:37 thousand and four I think it's Air France maybe four four seven or two thousand

20:44 and nine, but yes, before that, this was the most expensive aviation

20:49 investigation that had ever taken place. And if I think part of the part

20:59 of it is is not just maybe what happened to the plane, but part

21:03 of it is like, oh, shoot, there was a lot of money

21:06 spent. Like now, we would look like real dumbasses if if it were

21:11 to come out that it was the United States government that did all of it,

21:15 or or some shadowy government entity that that was actually at the center of

21:21 it, or a non human intelligence right, like, no matter what we're

21:23 looking at, if we knew what happened and still spent the money. People

21:29 are gonna be pissed. No, definitely, And it's the most extensive search

21:32 in history, and they didn't find one piece of debris, not a single

21:36 piece. Well, let's talk about that. That's argued, because I believe

21:41 that's argued. Is it not? So what most people are thinking of in

21:44 terms of when they find the debris. And this is how easy it is

21:47 to lie to people. Again, I'm gonna repeat this as a fact.

21:48 The official, most expensive search and extensive search and history did not find a

21:53 single piece of the plane. That's a fact. The person that found this,

21:57 Blaine Gibson, who's featured on the Netflix Dock Memory, was not related

22:00 to the official search whatsoever. This debris washed up on the Reunion Island in

22:04 South Africa. This is unrelated to the official search. So they found these

22:10 pieces of debris. The flaperon specifically is only piece that has been conclusively tied

22:15 to the plane. What they don't tell you is they did not use a

22:18 unique serial number for this. There's a unique ceial plate on this flaperon that

22:22 was missing. You can google this and you can confirm this for yourself.

22:26 What that means is they used a non unique serial number for this. So

22:29 what that means is that flaperon could be from MH three to seven zero,

22:33 could be from another equivalent seven to seven to seven as well. So it's

22:37 not quite as conclusive as it claims. And I would argue that this is

22:40 how they got people to believe this official narrative. Some debris washes up,

22:45 they quickly tie it to the plane. Now everybody thinks, oh, that's

22:48 proof it must have crashed. K solved. Everybody can now have funerals,

22:52 you know, and exactly I do want to get to some other stuff because

22:59 because there was some really like the press conferences. See, they seemed off,

23:07 something didn't seem right now when I went back and looked. But well

23:11 we can get into that later now, yep. Okay, So I don't

23:18 even know where to begin with this one if I go on debris while you're

23:22 thinking of that, So the other piece of the debris. What I want

23:23 to point out is that the narrative that I've put forth as the real narrative

23:27 is a lithium ion battery fire. Now, this is a very mundane event,

23:32 not really mundane, extremely dangerous, and you'll find that there was a

23:34 number of planes that burned up from these The debris that has been found is

23:38 consistent with a fire. Not only that, some of the debris actually had

23:41 burn marks on it and they've kind of just brushed that off as resin,

23:45 which makes no sense whatsoever if this stuff was in the water. The other

23:49 thing, too, that we'll get into is what we think we're seeing here

23:52 is teleportation on these videos. Believe it or not, it's not annihilation,

23:56 it is not cloaking. It's a ually a wormhole teleportation something like that.

24:03 And if that's the case, then there's no issue whatsoever with this tiny amount

24:06 of debris that was found, which even if you add it all up,

24:08 is probably less than one percent of the entire plane. So again, the

24:11 idea of that the debris rules out these videos is wholly incorrect. In fact,

24:17 there's actually one hundred percent consistent with the videos. The official narrative is

24:21 what's not consistent with the fact about you did not find a debris field.

24:23 And this is part of the reason why people like Florence Duchangi, who's very

24:27 intelligent woman, and people like Jeff Wise came up with alternative theories because they

24:32 realize that that is not possible to not have a debris field, right because

24:36 with the Air France, they found over ten New York City blocks of a

24:41 debris field for that plane. They don't just not find these things, that's

24:47 why. And you know with these recent I'm sure you remember these recent shootdowns

24:52 of objects in the sky when they you know that they're talking about the yuk

24:57 Yeah, the Yukata, and they they they didn't find anything. They claimed

25:03 they didn't find anything. I'm like, sure, I call bullshit because I

25:07 know that you guys are are tracking this stuff, and I know you guys

25:11 have eyes on like you have eyes on everything, and that's okay, but

25:17 just don't lie straight to my face. And with the official official narrative,

25:22 you have two hundred and thirty nine people that vanished literally into thin air,

25:26 no matter what way you look at it vanished all of their families, and

25:33 their families now go through this process of grieving. So it's a very very

25:41 weird situation. Absolutely, and again we needed those Navy videos. We also

25:45 needed that Trump satellite picture. Even have a basis to understand that that satellite

25:51 footage that we're looking at. People didn't think that we could be taking satellite

25:53 video. A lot of people first looked at that and they thought we were

25:56 looking up. That's how little of the basis we had to understand that instead

26:00 of looking down from outer space. People forget that ben Rich. You know,

26:04 ben Rich famously in a speech told told the graduating class that we have

26:11 the technology to take et home. You know, listen, Lockheed's been developing

26:17 things like you wouldn't believe, right, DARPA. I mean, we have

26:22 no you guys to think that the technology isn't there. Is what I find

26:30 the most laughable that the teleportation may seem like a fairy tale, but in

26:37 reality there is basis for it. Even with Einstein. Theoretical physics shows that

26:42 it is one hundred percent possible. Actually, I was surprised to find this

26:45 myself. I actually know that Ben Rich quote you're talking about, and I

26:48 always thought it was a little bit silly, and then I dug into this

26:51 case. The first thing I found was a quantum teleportation has been proven several

26:53 times over. The Chinese are constantly pushing the bar and teleporting quantum information further

27:00 further and further. And then at that point, the only limitation is how

27:02 do you reconcile quantum and macro exactly, and so I looked. And that's

27:07 the third thing that you need to understand these videos is that there's actually a

27:10 popular mechanics article out there which wherever you know not you think of popular mechanics,

27:14 there's three scientific papers within it, and they show that you don't need

27:17 exotic matter in order to create a wormhole, that wormholes are humanly traversible,

27:22 the meaning that you could actually go through them and you would survive the forces

27:25 of them. And then the last one, weirdly enough, says that you

27:27 could create a double thin layer and you would allow an object to be able

27:32 to go through a wormhole. When I read those that's when I went,

27:34 Wow, there's actually theoretical physics support for exactly what we see in these videos.

27:40 It's not just make believe. It's not just science fiction. No,

27:42 people don't understand that the programs that these agencies have run, the billions,

27:51 and sorry, billions isn't even the word. Trillions and trillions of dollars incomprehensible

27:57 amounts of money have gone into the really dark, dark black programs like remote

28:03 viewing, like experimental propulsion, advanced propulsion. We know like these aren't things

28:12 that should surprise anybody. And the documents, you know, John Greenwald is

28:18 a good friend of mine, A lot of documents have come from you know,

28:23 his Foyer attempts Foyer request to the government. And I think that we

28:27 know now that the government has had its hands and the other worldly or paranormal

28:34 for a long time. Yeah, And I think that they're definitely doing an

28:38 acclamation process. And you can even tell from people's reactions, right, is

28:41 they know that people are having angry, hostile reactions to this type of information,

28:47 and what that means is they need to get people comfortable with it slowly

28:49 over time, right. And so I think that even if you look into

28:52 those Foyer requests, they're being released by person you just mentioned that most likely

28:56 that's all being controlled very very deliberately so that we can get to a point.

29:00 And what we're doing here is we are just kickstarting that and moving that

29:03 along another couple of decades before what they're expecting. They're not expecting us to

29:07 just drop this huge amount of information on the public at once. But you

29:12 know, our goal, my stated goal for my community here is that we

29:15 want disclosure, total disclosure on our terms, right, and we want it

29:21 to. We want the truth now. We don't want to sit here and

29:22 wait for another three decades to learn that they have superconductivity, teleportation and free

29:29 energy cap around. There's people on this earth that have nothing that deserve this

29:33 technology to be free. I was going to say there, I grew up.

29:38 I grew up in a home where where we didn't always get to pay

29:44 for heat or pro paane, and you know, we would have to boil

29:49 water just to like take showers or to clean like and if this technology is

29:57 being hidden and these people, like my story sounds like, oh like it's

30:02 such a solve story, but there are people who have it's so much worse,

30:06 so much worse, all right, I at least had food to eat,

30:11 and like just the heat was like didn't work, you know, the

30:14 the hot water and heatd There are people that so much worse. And for

30:18 this technology, if it is being hidden from us, I think it's a

30:22 crime against humanity. And in this video, I think that's what people find

30:26 the hardest to believe because they're part of their brain that has to do with

30:32 like that. I don't know what it would be, what part of the

30:34 brain it would be that deals with this but when you look at these videos

30:38 and you see a portal open, you see three UFOs spinning. If you

30:42 want to share while you're talking, yeah, you see basically magic happen,

30:51 literal magic to you know, to your eyes. That's the part that people

30:57 struggle with the most. Yeah, I mean, I think that people aren't

31:02 ready for this information. Interestingly enough, when I started getting involved in the

31:04 UFO community, as I was disclosing this, you know, I got hostile

31:07 reactions from people that already believe in UFOs and non human intelligence and those types

31:12 of things. Not even they could believe it. And looking at this,

31:15 look at the trail of vapor, and here's the thing. They're not trailing

31:18 it that those things are in front of their in front and they're opening.

31:22 It looks like what they're doing is they're creating their own geo desics there.

31:27 So what they're doing is they're creating their own gravity forces at that point,

31:32 which is very interesting. If you look at how gravity really works, it

31:34 does not really work the way that we would think of as we were taught

31:37 in school or you might see on TV. You know, really what's happening

31:41 is that mass is interacting with space time and that curvature that it's creating is

31:45 what is allowing objects to fall. So essentially what we see is falling what

31:52 looks like it's getting pulled down. I mean it is, in a sense

31:53 getting pulled down, but that's due to the amount of mass that we see

31:57 from our planet interacting with space. I'm warping space time, and then time

32:01 is moving forward. And when time moves forward, what's happening is objects are

32:06 following the natural curvature of space time. So what these objects are doing here

32:10 is not only are they suspending themselves from space time, they're creating their own

32:15 geodesics. So they're following these trails that almost look like train tracks that are

32:19 allowing them to move forward, which to me, just seeing that alone tells

32:22 me there's no chances can be faked. No one would even think of that.

32:24 There's no basis whatsoever anywhere out there for something like this for the and

32:30 then that that is the part. So there you go, right there,

32:34 I think, I think, honestly, honestly, even if it was just

32:37 the orbs, people could maybe wrap their head around it. But it's the

32:42 what happens that at that point where this thing like just this disappears right right.

32:51 And now now this is a This is a completely separate angle from the

32:54 other video. And look at here where they're and this is also too,

32:59 is that when they at least the second video, we see so much more

33:01 detail and part of the reason why they colored it. You can see these

33:05 orbs, there's a heat signature, there's spinning on their axis here. So

33:08 one of the ways that it's been proposed that the propulsions occurring is that these

33:13 are superconductors that are spinning, and by having spinning superconductors, potentially this formation

33:19 might be relevant to This is how I think they're potentially exploiting free energy as

33:22 they're creating some sort of amplification. And this is me speculating. We'll look

33:25 at other explanations. What shape is it? Making triangle a triangue. It's

33:30 just gone right, and there's this you see this almost shockwave happening here as

33:36 well. That's occurring. Has anyone slowed that down so we can see kind

33:44 of because I know the main there's this this, this this absurd and I've

33:49 looked into it. There is an absurd. Listen, Mick West is actually

33:55 a friend of mine, Like I, I like the guy. I.

34:00 Him and I we disagree every day all day, but him and I have

34:05 a good relationship. We can still talk and be friendly. I he has

34:09 this thing on what metabunk about comparing it to a video game. No,

34:16 completely ridiculous. I maybe this one hundred percent ridiculous. There's no chance that

34:21 what we're looking at here is a nineties video game that's low quality. I

34:24 mean to be honest with you, he's extremely disingenuous. The image that he

34:29 is comparing is the twenty fifteen remastered version, because if anyone looked at the

34:35 nineties version, the pixelation and low quality is so absurd. And as people

34:38 will point out, if this had to have used a three D render in

34:40 order to create the multiple angles that we see, so there's no chance that

34:45 anyone will use a two D visual effect. Doesn't even make sense. If

34:47 someone went to the effort to create this in such high quality, they're not

34:51 going to go find a nineties video game that's two dimensional and add that in

34:54 there. Right, They've done all this perfect, perfect work. Not only

35:00 not only in three or four days have they needed to create a minimum of

35:04 three videos. They did one of them stereoscopic. They've done all this work,

35:09 but they're like, shit, you know what, I'm running low on

35:12 budget. Let me grab some Doom graphics from the nineties and we'll seal the

35:16 deal from a three dio game. And here's the other thing. And I

35:19 don't want to harp too much on Mickwest, although I'm not a fan of

35:22 his in any shape or form. Is that you know he consistently said he

35:25 would not look at these videos. I have at least on record on two

35:29 different occasions, including just two or three days before this debunk appeared. So

35:35 all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he finds an obscure video game.

35:37 Was he just sitting there looking through his old video game collection when he

35:39 found this? It makes no sense whatsoever not to mention that. But we're

35:45 seeing a cold zapp here in this. It's black back. There's no reason

35:50 for anyone to create it like this. If someone's going to take a visual

35:52 effect, they're not going to modify it and turn it black. They're just

35:55 going to have it be an explosion like the effect that he used is so

36:00 like there's like, yeah, there's a portal feature on on like on one

36:05 of my editing softwares, and just for fun. I started messing around with

36:09 it, and I couldn't get it to even remotely look anything like what is

36:17 being seen here. And this is I hadn't just completely debunk this, so

36:22 we just we just looked at what that really looks like in the video.

36:24 So let's go ahead and just end the debate on this entirely. This is

36:29 not from a visual effect, and I'm just going to prove it here real

36:31 quick as well. I have another one, which so we remember what that

36:37 just looked like. Let's pull up the what the effect looks like? Here?

36:43 Where's my share screen? I believe it's sorry, I'm trying to make

36:52 sure I've got the right one here. It's fun to hear it, Okay,

37:00 so let's just compare it to this effect right here. You can see

37:02 it's not even close to the same, right What we're like that is that

37:07 is multiple ripples, multiple ripples. It's not that you can tell it doesn't

37:13 match. You can see that these extra kind of explosions kind of coming around

37:15 it don't match. This is actually super imposed to the background. One actually

37:19 has the real effect behind it, and this fake v effects that they're trying

37:22 to say is the same is not even close. I mean it's not even

37:25 remotely close. So the reason why this, in my mind, what happened

37:30 here is someone did use the computer search to find something they think they could

37:34 falsify to try to make it look like it, and that they used a

37:38 sock puppet account on Reddit and then voted that up to the top gave it

37:43 a ton of awards, because what people on Reddit is whatever's at the top,

37:47 you know. And so I why would Reddit even why would red it

37:53 even allow that, because there's so many rules about Reddit, like I need

38:00 had so much karma to post like something I don't even get. Yeah,

38:05 part I looked into it, actually, because I have all the receipts.

38:07 I just want to point that out. The icy Slide account that posted this

38:12 was a one day old account had never posted before. It had to get

38:15 special permission that had to be manually approved to be able to post this,

38:19 which indicates that the person that posted this knew that the moderators knew who the

38:24 person that posted this was, and why would you use a sock puppet account?

38:28 They didn't answer any questions, not a single one in the comments of

38:30 that post. The only reason why I can think of is that the person

38:35 that posted it did not want to know who they truly They didn't want the

38:37 people to know who they truly were. The only person that I can think

38:39 of that would want that would be Mick West himself, because the people are

38:45 have very highly divided when it comes to the UAP community. If he had

38:47 posted on his own name, then they would have downloaded the hell out of

38:51 it, right right right. And he's actually has a history of using sock

38:53 puppt accounts. He was banned from Wikipedia for that, even though he claims,

38:57 oh I just switched over my other account stually was using soft pupet accounts

39:00 for that. In addition to this, he's the only person that claims to

39:05 have found this visual effect. Nobody else has claimed that whatsoever. In fact,

39:07 he's the only person who's promoting this is somehow being a debunk so all

39:12 roads lead back to him. And as you can see here, we've conclusively

39:15 ruled this out. It is not a match. I wouldn't even I wouldn't

39:19 even have entertained entertained this as a debunk because the d again, when we've

39:24 had this problem with him in the UFO community, sometimes his debunking is more.

39:30 It's more out there than just the real video, right, just like

39:35 taking it at face value. So okay, that's out of the way.

39:38 We'll take that, get rid of that. Let's go back into the evidence

39:42 and you know, talk about what's really going on. We can talk about

39:45 science, we can talk about anything else. Go ahead, Well, what

39:47 I want to talk about next is now, there's three orbs. They vortex

39:52 or they circulate around this plane. Did that? Does anyone see this?

40:00 Yeah? So the witness did not see it. The witness who is there,

40:05 who saw the glowing orange plane, which is how we figured out this

40:07 was a lithium ion battery fire where the hall on gas had broken containment.

40:10 And okay for the audience who doesn't know there is a witness. Yeah,

40:17 so my piece called the orange glowing plane. You should definitely check that out

40:21 if people are interested. It's on my Twitter. Yeah, and this is

40:24 where we started to realize that this was a fire event. I was trying

40:29 to figure out why this plane would be glowing orange. This witness was under

40:31 the agreed flight path in the Nicobar Islands. Everybody agrees she was there.

40:36 They dismissed the witness, discredit her like they did every other witness that saw

40:38 this plane so that they could develop this fake narrative. And the witness actually

40:43 watched the plane at a low I just did actually an interview with her to

40:46 reconfirm all of her official report from back in twenty fourteen. It was already

40:52 at a very low altitude, which is consistent with a fire event because you

40:55 need to fly low if the plane had been depressurized from some sort of event

41:00 save keep the passengers alive. This actually debunks the suicide myth as well,

41:02 because they said, well, he would have depressurized the plane to kill everybody,

41:07 But why is he flying low to keep everybody alive. If that's the

41:09 case, right, you would be flying at cruising altitude. The witness reports

41:14 that this plane was flying low, and it was descending, and it was

41:16 also moving to the same counterclockwise rotation that we see in the videos. This

41:21 is consistent with what we see in our video where we're looking at these cumulus

41:23 clouds. So I'll pull this back up again just so we can share,

41:27 and I want to point out here that we south it's low. Does she

41:31 does she see any other military saw orbs. She saw two other airplanes that

41:37 had navigation lights on them, which to me would indicate that she probably saw

41:44 one of these other a wax that have been reported to be in the area

41:46 now somebody. What she believes is that the experts, which I believe these

41:51 experts, were trying to diminish her case. First thing she told me is

41:53 that the time eighteen forty UTC. Remember if we looked at that satellite video,

41:58 that was the time when the satellite was in the right location, So

42:00 her sighting was right around the time right location she saw. This plane had

42:05 no navigation lights on it, the one that she saw, the other two

42:07 that did have navigation lights the experts, she told me directly, she thought

42:12 they were trying to get her to change the time. She also told me

42:15 that the experts try to convince her that the other planes were some other commercial

42:19 airlines that were nearby. The only one that I can think that was even

42:22 close is UAE three four three. There's not two airplanes nearby commercially, at

42:27 least from my investigation so far, that could account for what she saw.

42:31 So unfortunately, it seems like I'm talking to her, she'd not seen an

42:34 the ORBS. So I think that when we see this plane start, she

42:37 had already gone inside the boat unfortunately, probably at this part where we're seeing

42:40 this video, and so she missed these orbs coming around. I think these

42:45 orbs are actually probably visible to the naked eye, but she's we're seeing the

42:49 smoke. So you've changed your thoughts on that you think these are are visible

42:54 not because then the last podcast, I believe you said that you thought there

43:00 were only visible via infrared. Not one hundred percent sure, to be honest

43:04 with you, it could be either or it's really at this point. Yeah,

43:07 I mean, ultimately it's not super important, but I do think it

43:10 is interesting to find out, you know what, thing about when were watching.

43:13 So she didn't see so she didn't see the plane disappear. She just

43:17 said she went inside and quote unquote put the kettle on and she came out,

43:22 and I, you know, I kind of asked, like, why

43:23 would you do in the middle, She did not think this was an important

43:25 event at the time. You know, she didn't really realize the magnitude of

43:30 what she was looking at at first. She didn't even know she was looking

43:32 at a plane until it got close enough where she could see the glow from

43:36 the front of the uh the like the what is it the front of the

43:40 plane, and she could see an orange glow coming through the windows of the

43:43 front of the plane, and so she went and put the kettle on.

43:45 When she comes back out, there's no more plane anymore, and all she

43:49 sees is an orange halo according to her. So to me, it makes

43:52 me wonder if what she saw is the orange halo was whatever is after The

43:57 effect here of this plane disappearing is that she's potentially seen the residue of that

44:01 hall on gas, that bromine within it that was left behind. Yeah,

44:05 exactly, And so she's seen this halo, which I think is very unusual,

44:08 well, being a circle the way you would now unusually here there's a

44:15 lot of weird stuff going on. One thing I want to point out is

44:16 I'm trying to figure out still to this day, where these orbs are coming

44:21 from. What's deploying these orbs. I think that we're looking at us technology.

44:23 You see a fasta comes in, it's coming in at mock three or

44:27 higher. And this right away doesn't immediately circle the plane. It kind of

44:30 goes to the side of it and on the side of it here, and

44:34 then it starts to get around it. This to me looks like it's homing

44:36 in and tracking the plane. The second orb if you look closely, actually

44:39 comes up from the water and it comes up through this cloud and now it's

44:44 there next to it. And the third one comes in from the side as

44:46 well. The pattern, it's almost like it locks in and they start this

44:51 pattern. If you scrunch time down, it's creating a sphere around the plane.

44:55 Yeah, and notice what happens here in a second, it changes orientation

44:59 and becomes vertical to the plane. This really is making me think that what

45:02 they're doing here is inducing some type of wormhole effect. Right right now,

45:06 you can see that they're vertical around them, right right right. And now

45:08 they're doing this back and forth. And then when we saw the others,

45:12 they close in the last second and boom, plane's gone, and there we

45:15 go. There's our flash again. And this is this is the this is

45:22 the opposite of that. The other the other the thermal. So we're looking

45:28 at again a dark setting and that's why the flash is white in this instance

45:34 rather than black. Well, so the reason why that is is probably due

45:37 to the false color ir the point of color and make it look like what

45:42 human would look like right and also look like daytime. And that's part of

45:45 the reason why too. I think the flash also indicates this nighttime is that

45:47 that flash would probably not be as visible if it was one of those very

45:51 bright pictures like we saw from the Trump satellite right right right, So this

45:54 also may indicate that we see no shadows anywhere here, and then that flash

45:59 we can see the flash illuminate the clouds, which I think that this all

46:01 conclusively shows what we're looking at. Here is a nighttime picture, which is

46:06 or nighttime video, which is consistent with eighteen forty UTC, which depends on

46:09 which times one you're looking at, it's gonna be either in the morning or

46:13 two forty in the morning. And the moon was not up, the sun

46:15 was not up as pitch black, and that's also according to the witness over

46:19 the ocean, over the Southern Indian Ocean, there's no lights. There's this

46:24 arguably arguably one of you know, it's really an uncharted not uncharted, but

46:31 it's it's a travel path, but the water or anything, you know,

46:36 in the reason they had such a hard time searching for this plane was that

46:39 the terrain that they were searching was just such a like miserable area. It

46:46 was mountainous underneath, and it was just a perfect place for a plane to

46:52 disappear if you ask me. And one thing to I want to point out

46:55 is that what we're seeing there, we believe now pretty conclusively is smoke.

46:59 It's not contrails. The reason why it's not contrails. Contrails only form at

47:02 high altitudes. This is why the people that are trying to discredit this want

47:06 to say that there's contrails, and they don't want to admit that we're looking

47:08 at their accumulus clouds because the cumulus clouds only formed between one thousand and five

47:13 thousand feet. I mean, this plane is very low and that's again consistent

47:16 with the sighting. So what this means is that it can't be contrails.

47:21 And if it's not contrails and it's smoke, now everything's lining up to the

47:23 same event O livium battery fire. And now let's ask a question why so,

47:31 why why this plane? Why this event? Why? Why? So

47:38 let's quickly go through the flight path here. I'm gonna pull this one up

47:42 too, if you don't mind, we could pull that because I think it

47:45 helps to visualize what's happened, because there's really two events that occur here.

47:47 Okay, So the first event, you see this plane flying from Qualumpor and

47:52 it's going northeast towards Beijing. The time where it goes dark here seventeen twenty

47:55 one UTC. So this is where all these this is along the coast.

48:00 Here, here a bang right at seventeen twenty one UTC. I'm going to

48:04 go up to that point. And this is also where Mike McKay is on

48:07 an oil rig three hundred miles to the northeast. For kilometers to the northeast.

48:10 Up here he sees the plane on fire. He does not see a

48:14 crash. He sees it on fire. This would indicate that something happens here.

48:17 I would just suspect that what happens here is a minor lithium ion battery

48:21 explosion that depressurizes the plane but does not take it out. Now, these

48:24 cargo bays that hold these batteries are meant to be able to withstand this type

48:29 of thing, which I believe can account for the fact that we've got about

48:31 an hour and twenty minutes until we get to KT's boat over here on the

48:35 west. So this plane is able to they're able to mitigate it. Presumably

48:37 all the crew are now trying to fight this fire. Now, these lithium

48:42 ion battery fires are almost impossible to put out. This is why so many

48:45 people died from them from twenty to ten to twenty fourteen. They're terrible.

48:51 It's a chemical fire, exactly. So what do we see it? Do

48:53 it makes a turn? And where does it go? Directly to penang on

48:57 Cowi International Airport. If you're a suicide path, you are flying to the

49:00 nearest emergency airport. You're crashing the plane right in the ocean right here,

49:04 right. Yeah, So what we see here is consistent with not a suicide

49:08 scenario, but an emergency scenario. Which another because that's another thing that people

49:14 throw around, is that the pilot was trying to suicide. Yeah, it

49:16 makes no sense, they try to say, flying over his hometown, that's

49:20 why he's going to get a good look. Give me a break. It's

49:22 the most nonsense thing I've ever heard of my life. I would never fly

49:25 over my hometown just to be on like my farewell. Two hundred people are

49:30 trying to break through your door. Come on, yeah, no way,

49:32 give me a break, guys, Oh break, that's such bullshit. So

49:37 they land, they try to get here. Most likely what's happened here is

49:38 they can't safely land, so either the landing year has been damaged or there's

49:44 no lights because it's two in the morning. Again, seventeen fifty two is

49:46 one to fifty two in the morning, and Malaysia's third world country. This

49:50 airport is not having active flights at that point. So if they couldn't communicate

49:54 or they had whatever issue, they're not gonna able to land. The co

49:57 pilot's cell phone pings down below when they fly over, which again indicates they're

50:01 trying to get help. Right, So this is all lines up towards an

50:05 emergency event. Now what does it do at this point? It's flies to

50:08 Nickobar Islands. I presume at this point they've made communication with the US government

50:13 and they found a rendezvous point. Now why would they rendezvous pointing because the

50:16 next thing you're gonna try to do is land in the ocean. The problem

50:20 with landing in the ocean is that it's middle of the night, it's dark.

50:22 This is not like landing in the Hudson River. There are big waves

50:27 in the ocean. The plane's gonna crash apart if it lands in the ocean,

50:30 no matter what. Right. So I want to point out as well

50:34 that a lot of people don't know this, but a lot of mainland Chinese

50:36 nationals do not learn how to swim. In the West, everybody learns how

50:39 to swim. Seventy percent of the plane was changed seventy percent, right,

50:45 and so then another probably ten to fifteen percent where Malaysian nationals. So if

50:49 this plane tries to land in the ocean, most likely everyone's gonna die.

50:52 They're not gonna be able to save all these people. Maybe they're not gonna

50:54 be able to save any of them. So the other plan I want to

50:58 point out here is they claim that the last communication was eighteen twenty two.

51:00 If you read my piece called eighteen forty, you realize that this time was

51:05 made up weeks after the fact. The time that they actually right after the

51:08 fact that the next day they claim they lost communication eighteen forty UTC. That

51:14 time is this location at KT's boat over here. So what really happened is

51:17 they probably tracked it the whole way. But when you're inventing a fake narrative,

51:22 you got to throw people off the scent. If you admit that it

51:24 happened at eighteen forty, now people are going to wonder, okay, well

51:27 did something happen at this point right here? Because that's the most logical conclusion.

51:30 If you look up my piece called the data or the immersat data,

51:34 you'll find if you just scroll through the su log tab yourself, there's a

51:37 huge anomaly at eighteen forty UTC. Nobody who's an expert or has even looked

51:40 at Xcel data could ever say that it looks normal. There's a bunch of

51:45 zeros all of a sudden right at eighteen forty UTC. Before this, there's

51:49 dozens of pages for every single minute that there's a pain. And then from

51:52 nineteen forty, which is the next ping onward to twenty three forty, which

51:57 is like five hours, there's ten total rows of data. It just does

52:00 not it's not consistent at all. Right, this is also right here,

52:04 this location where we're seeing these videos is consistent. Is this is the location

52:07 they say that the plane turned into the South Indian Ocean. It's like all

52:12 of it adds up to the Salarian Ocean. Thing never happened, and instead

52:15 what happened? Is this is our videos or we're seeing right here? That's

52:19 the video? Yeah, yeah, the videos because it's we see it coming

52:22 across and coming around and it does it lines up. You've built a very

52:30 comparence. Why is nobody listening? Yeah? Well, one thing I want

52:34 to play out. I see the question in the chat, why not go

52:36 to Kualampur. That was what I thought first, But actually Pananglan Kawi International

52:39 Airport is a closer airport for them to get to, And if you read

52:43 the Wired article, it actually argues that the elevation is better for the plane

52:45 to get there. Keep in mind, if this plane has to fly low

52:50 and has to fly under ten thousand feet, the correct place for them to

52:53 fly back to is Pananglan Kawi International Airport. Now I originally thought too,

52:57 oh, I would go back to the other major airport, right, But

53:00 again, you're in a fire scenario, so you are in a very emergency

53:04 situation at this point. You're trying to get to the closest place that is,

53:07 you know, going by the book, and that is Penangulankwi International Airport.

53:09 But good question on that one. That is a good question. Are

53:14 there any there? So the official narrative at this point. And I think

53:21 we can agree that, you know, there's been there's there's enough data here

53:24 to suggest that something either extraordinary happened or let's or yeah, something extraordinary actually

53:32 happened. Now there's now we we go to this this place of to either

53:39 one of two things is happening. This is either man made technology, you

53:47 know, I would I would still say it's alien in nature because it's probably

53:52 reverse engineered if it's man made, or it's a non human intelligence and it

54:00 and it knows the planes in trouble. That's why the military's you know,

54:05 the military is tracking both of them, you know. So which there's the

54:10 the espionage theory and then there's the the NHI theory. So can you kind

54:16 of explain the difference between Yeah, great question, and I think that,

54:21 you know, I'll explain my opinions. But I want to point out too

54:23 that I'm freed. I want everyone to believe whatever they want to believe about

54:27 the videos. I think that I just want to present the evidence. And

54:30 I think there's a lot of does line up to one of these two options,

54:31 and it's hard to exactly figure out what it could be. What I

54:36 would say, though, is that either the United States got extremely lucky when

54:38 they were filming this, if it's non human intelligence, or it's an operation.

54:43 A lot of people ask why are they filming? Right, it seems

54:45 like they would have to be filming for intelligence purposes, so you know,

54:50 it could theoretically be either. And again this is this mystery, like,

54:52 first of all, why did this lithium ion battery fire begin at seventeen twenty

54:57 one suddenly? And then the second thing is what it exactly is happening at

55:00 eighteen forty UTC. Is this an operation where they're testing this technology, They're

55:04 trying to save these passengers, They're trying to put out the fire. One

55:07 thing I would caution people on is to try and a lot of people want

55:12 to attribute human motivation to a non human intelligence. My view on non human

55:16 intelligence is, if it's here, they don't give a crap about us,

55:20 Like we're like ants to them. Right, Do you go around trying to

55:22 save every ant that is out there? Not? Really. You could argue

55:24 that you might be trying to save animals and that type of thing, but

55:28 you really would have to believe that these non human intelligence are benevolent and have

55:31 human motivations for this to make sense for them to be saving them. To

55:35 me, it makes more sense that this is a human interaction that they're trying

55:37 to do. But again, I think there's evidence you know that could line

55:40 up both ways. Yeah. Now again, Yeah, so I mean we

55:45 know, you know, the government is seized tessels, you know, work,

55:52 We know that, we know that they have black programs, right,

55:55 we know that they you know, they've they've based you know, if you

56:00 believe David Grosh, they have flying they have UFOs. They maybe this is

56:08 you know, uh, there's a good question that was asked. That's why

56:13 I'm kind of leading this ahead. If this was an attempt to save them,

56:17 a lastist effort, like all right, listen, we got to pull

56:21 out the the technology we we shouldn't have to pull out, you know,

56:25 send it out and let's save these people. Where are the people? Yeah?

56:30 And I think that's actually interesting because people have seen it. Wasn't there

56:36 like on the military base, like very similar looking people. Yeah. I

56:40 mean I think there's a lot and I don't want to do too much into

56:43 that because again it's a speculative, right in terms of like where it wins

56:46 and you know where the passengers are. Now, I think that if you

56:50 dig into you find that there is a lot of really odd things about it.

56:54 Now, what I would say in terms of where the plane could have

56:55 gone, It could have gone to another dimension. It could go to another

57:00 planet somewhere else in the universe. It could go to the future. Time

57:04 dilation is real, So as farther you travel the speed of light, from

57:07 your perspective, time will flow naturally, but from the observer's perspective, time

57:12 will flow slightly differently. So if I travel one thousand light years at the

57:15 speed of light, and i'm I can be there in minutes, it's gonna

57:19 be one thousand years later. Wow, imagine this plane shows up one hundred,

57:23 two hundred, three hundred four hundred years from now. So the thing

57:28 about that is that the time dilations can be proportionate to the distance travel to

57:31 the speed of light. So if it goes a very short distance, it

57:35 could show up instantly. If it's going a very long distance, then it

57:37 theoretically could show up at some point in the future, which is I think

57:40 is very interesting. And then so where would the passwnger be or it could

57:45 just teleport somewhere else on Earth, right, and now we have a situation

57:47 where it could somewhere be here. Now, if that's the case, then

57:52 you need to do something with these passengers. Right. My speculative speculation was,

57:57 if you're saving these passengers, you're not gonna, you know, do

57:59 something to fairy to them afterwards. So I would think that if you look

58:02 at the people who are on board the plane, there's a very small number

58:05 of Westerners. Most of them again were Chinese nationals, which China would have

58:08 no problem silencing them, not allowing them on the media. Whatever it needs

58:12 to be done. You just make backroom deals. You know, you would

58:15 have the president or whoever else make backroom deals with those countries, say we're

58:19 going to return these passengers, make sure they never speak up. Same with

58:22 Malaysia. Interestingly enough, the White House was calling Malaysia every single day,

58:25 which I think is a little bit odd. And this is according to Florence

58:30 to Chinese presentation that I watched, which I think people should definitely take a

58:32 look at. There's a lot of reports of well, when you said the

58:37 US government, because the US government, I mean, it doesn't it doesn't

58:42 show up like US government. So who who from the US government. White

58:46 House was called white House whit holy shit. So here's the thing too,

58:51 There's lots of reports that a lot of these family members were told something and

58:54 I actually at this point fully believe that all the family members have basically been

58:58 told something that has I guess you would say, given them closure to some

59:01 degree. Now, what if they've been told, if they've been told the

59:04 truth of what we see here, or if they've been told something that like,

59:07 you know, some of them, one of them was who was the

59:09 nephew of one of the pilots, was told that their uncle was a casualty,

59:14 that they were collateral damage, that the Frenchman who lost his wife and

59:19 daughters, was told that the Americans had a wax in the area, which

59:22 are these planes that have the radar dishes on them, and that the Americans

59:25 knew exactly what happened. You know. A couple of the woman Danica,

59:30 who was her husband was on board the plane. There's reports that she felt

59:36 like she was being followed and was very scared of, you know, not

59:39 giving too much information away. I put videos out there that showed that Sarah,

59:45 who is the girlfriend of Philip Wood, the American passenger did not believe

59:47 the official narratives at all and was trying to get to the truth. The

59:52 families, nineteen of them signed a statement saying they could call the victim's cell

59:57 phones, which is not possible if your p phones another dimension, bottom of

1:00:01 the ocean, any of these things. They tried to have actual DNA and

1:00:06 claim that like, oh, this can happen, not nineteen times to different

1:00:09 people for four days, your phone would last maybe an hour. Yeah,

1:00:15 that's me pushing it. What I've read is that if the if your phone

1:00:20 goes underneath water for about like a foot underwater in the ocean, that not

1:00:24 only is it going to die within like fifteen minutes of salt water, but

1:00:28 it's not going to be a signal. And not just that the service doesn't

1:00:30 extend out into the South Indian Ocean, it goes some miles off the coast.

1:00:36 So this idea that like these phones could be ringing, one of them

1:00:37 actually proved it on national television. I posted that as well, so and

1:00:44 they wanted them to track the phones, because if you can call a phone,

1:00:46 you should be able to track it. As far as I can tell,

1:00:49 that didn't happen. Either right, right, right. So there's a

1:00:52 ton of evidence that this plane did not crash into the ocean whatsoever. In

1:00:55 fact, I think we've conclusively proven that it didn't. Would that's actually a

1:01:01 good point, Philip Wood. Can you explain who that is? Yeah?

1:01:05 So he was the American passenger on board the plane. And interestingly enough,

1:01:08 there was a very odd picture that was posted to four chan, which is

1:01:12 kind of hard to explain of just a black picture that they claimed that oh

1:01:17 that they claimed that this picture out there, you know, why would you

1:01:22 post it to four chan? But he claimed to be held captive. People

1:01:24 looked at the EXIF data on there, and it pointed to Diego Garcia Military

1:01:29 Base, which is a location where a lot of people speculated this plane could

1:01:31 go because it can hide to seven seven seven. But I don't want to

1:01:36 go too much into that. It's just a possibility. Of course it could.

1:01:38 You know, it could go other places, but you know, for

1:01:43 speculating to me, that's probably the place where it seems the most likely.

1:01:45 Now, interesting enough, what I'll say about this picture is the person that

1:01:50 quote unquote debunked this picture is also the same person that debunked our videos and

1:01:53 I went ahead and found a technical analysis that shows that actually, well,

1:01:57 their debunk is wholly wrong, actually factually incorrect, and that the picture itself

1:02:02 is consistent with an iPhone five picture. Now, whether or not that proves

1:02:07 that it's real doesn't necessarily, but it definitely proves that it's not debunked.

1:02:12 So there is circumstantial evidence. In addition to a B seven seven seven fire

1:02:19 suppression device that washed up in the Maldives that had a serial number on it,

1:02:22 the Maldives was intentionally excluded from the search. They never looked into this

1:02:25 fire suppression device, even though it looks like as a serial number that could

1:02:29 be linked to that MAG three seven zero. And there was a sighting that

1:02:31 is somewhat contested in the Maldives where some of these people on the island reported

1:02:37 seeing an airplane that was flying very low that had a blue and white,

1:02:40 a blue and red stripe on it. So there is a bit of evidence

1:02:45 that this plane somehow was flying over the Maldives as well. And the problem

1:02:50 with that is that the time doesn't really match up. The time of that

1:02:52 sighting was reported at like six in the morning of the local time, which

1:02:55 is ours five hours events happening later. What we just talked about time dilation,

1:03:01 yeah, really makes me wonder, you know, And to your point

1:03:06 earlier is that it's hard to believe the US government could be this secretly advanced.

1:03:09 But people do mention all the time that the US government's twenty five years

1:03:13 fifty years years vance than the public knows. So initially, what I would

1:03:19 say is that when I first saw these videos, I thought, and this

1:03:21 is in twenty fourteen, that I had to be faked. I didn't understand.

1:03:23 I had no basis to even understand the movie. I didn't even know

1:03:25 what it could look like with flear data, et cetera. When I saw

1:03:30 them again and realized from this centric session a proof that we have from the

1:03:34 mouse that we see that these are authentic, then I thought, okay,

1:03:37 we have to be looking at non human intelligence. We're seeing this triangle formation,

1:03:40 we're seeing these orbs, and those are very much in the zeitgeist right

1:03:44 now. But the more I looked into all the intent, all the evidence

1:03:47 around this, this is where I started to realize that we're not looking at

1:03:51 non human intelligence on these videos. We're actually looking at our reverse engineer technology,

1:03:54 which I think will prove what David grush sworn is testimony to Congress penalty

1:04:00 of perjury that we have going on, that we have been reverse engineering these

1:04:03 for probably decades, if not one hundred years, and that they've known about

1:04:08 it, and that somehow I thought that, you know, we probably had

1:04:11 been failing at reverse engineering. Like if you gave a caveman an iPhone and

1:04:15 said, hey, go ahead and reverse engineers, they'd have no chance because

1:04:18 they wouldn't have the material science to be able to recreate the iPhone. Absolutely.

1:04:23 However, if you go and say, okay, well now we're going

1:04:25 to push eighty years now, I think that it is possible that you could

1:04:29 reverse engineer this stuff. Well, you know what David Gersh also talked about

1:04:32 is a deal amongst non human intelligence and and human beings. Could it be

1:04:43 possible that they that we called in a favor. A lot of people do

1:04:47 bring that up. Now, my personal opinion is not undred percent convinced that

1:04:51 you know, there's non human intelligence. I need a little bit more proof

1:04:55 myself. And the thing about me is that I just want to follow the

1:04:58 evidence, and to me, you don't need that type of thing to happen

1:05:00 in order to explain this. But to your point, speculatively, you know,

1:05:05 if that is the case, and there is non human intelligence on this

1:05:08 earth and they have formed, you know, some type of alliance with the

1:05:12 government, then you know that could be a possibility. And again I want

1:05:14 people to believe whatever they think fits with the facts. Yeah I don't.

1:05:18 And again again for some reason, a rescue mission doesn't seem seem like it's

1:05:27 a good fit because again I don't know. So let's go into that.

1:05:31 Let me speak to that real quick as well. So, and this will

1:05:34 probably be what you're going to bring up, is that there was twenty free

1:05:38 scale semiconductor scientists on board this plane. And to me, you think about

1:05:42 the risk associated is, like you mentioned, pulling out the technology to save

1:05:45 these people, right, and to potentially put out this lithium ion battery fire

1:05:48 that would have otherwise doomed the plane. There has to be something more than

1:05:53 money. People want to tie it to these patents. I looked into the

1:05:56 patent situation. That's not how it works. The patent's actually owned by the

1:05:59 company, not the individuals, so it's not reverting to somebody in that situation.

1:06:02 Unfortunately, that's been debunked. But the scientist is twenty free scale semi

1:06:06 conductor scientists, that we're all very important people as part of this company.

1:06:11 Chris from the Not So Dee podcast worked at the company at the time and

1:06:14 told me this first hand on one of the podcasts I did with him.

1:06:16 That's too many people to be on the same plane. Almost every company has

1:06:19 a policy that you can only have three or four people on the same plane

1:06:23 because of stuff just like this, Kidd. What I would hypothesize, and

1:06:28 this is very speculative, though, is that what if freescale semiconductors is actually

1:06:31 free scale superconductors, and that these people on board this plane scientists were integral

1:06:36 to the technology that we see. Either they are bringing this technology to China

1:06:42 and now this becomes an espionage situation where we're trying to prevent that from happening,

1:06:45 or they're integral to the technology from the United States perspective, and they

1:06:49 want to make sure that we don't lose access to this intellectual property. To

1:06:54 me, the intellectual property motive makes a lot more sense than any type of

1:06:58 monetary motive. And I mean, if let's just say I'm the US government

1:07:06 or or or or yeah, the US government and I I I whatever,

1:07:13 I take these people and I'm like, you're gonna have to go into witness

1:07:16 protection, you know, like that's that's just it. I'm sorry, that's

1:07:21 the way it's gonna be, you know. Or you can take the other

1:07:27 what's behind door two and you're not gonna you're not gonna like door too.

1:07:30 I can promise you that. Yeah. You know, so like a lot

1:07:34 of these people being national you know, of of you know, China or

1:07:39 nationals, yeah, foreign nationals. I mean, I can't I can't imagine

1:07:44 unless you're like a super patriotic Chinese national, Like, I can't imagine you'd

1:07:48 love it there and a chance to get out of there would be probably nice.

1:07:54 And for these other people as well, I don't know, maybe they

1:07:58 live their lives wherever this plane landed, right Yeah. If they say I

1:08:01 will give you ten million dollars and you could live on this beautiful island,

1:08:04 then you live your days out here, right Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

1:08:12 yeah, I think that, And that's why I think that it's easy to

1:08:14 explain a lot of the passengers. The harder ones are the Western passengers,

1:08:16 the ones that might have access to the media, to blow this up and

1:08:19 the family members as well, right, And that's why I think the fact

1:08:23 that no family members have reached out to me, not a single one while

1:08:27 this is going on. I have over probably ten twenty million views over the

1:08:30 last two months. To me, that's the part that's unusual. Do you

1:08:33 think they have signed some sort of NDA. It could have, And I

1:08:38 think that it's very possible that they've been told something and told that you can't

1:08:42 bring this up to anybody, otherwise you're in big trouble, right, because

1:08:45 we've seen this in the UFO world a lot. Because the thing about it

1:08:47 is for me, I would never give up. I mean, look at

1:08:49 how passionate I am, and I'm not even related to these people on this

1:08:53 plane. I plan on vindicating everybody, the witnesses, the person that leaked

1:08:57 this, everybody who's been lied to, the pilots. You know, if

1:09:00 it was my family ten years later, wouldn't matter. In fact, I

1:09:02 would probably mean more desperate for answers and be reaching out for any client for

1:09:06 any small thing that might give me closure. So I think that that's the

1:09:11 part where I don't know what they've been told, but I feel very strongly

1:09:14 they've been told something that is now keeping them quiet. I'd want to I

1:09:17 want to know, though, like it's like, oh god. Plus,

1:09:20 these people were desperate early on. A lot of them got arrested because they

1:09:24 didn't believe the official narrative. They were throwing water bottles at the people like

1:09:27 you were talking about those early people that were doing the announcements. Very they

1:09:30 knew that something was going on. Right now, all of a sudden,

1:09:32 everybody's quiet. They've just been a complete one eight and they're and they're completely

1:09:38 okay and all right, all right, I accept it. I accept what

1:09:43 happened after screaming and whaling and you know, throwing water bottles and yeah,

1:09:50 it doesn't, it doesn't. I don't know. It's really really they were

1:09:55 really confusing, not confusing, But it's a very complex situation no matter what

1:10:00 side we're dealing with. Now, why why the cover up? Why?

1:10:08 Why? Why? Why? Even because there's so many whys? Why this?

1:10:16 Why that? Why that? So? Why if you're going to disappear

1:10:21 a plane right a full of people, why why cover it up? If

1:10:28 you're not involved, say the United States government is not involved at all,

1:10:33 why why are they trying to cover it up. Huh, Like that's the

1:10:35 thing too. That's why I think it implicates them the most, is that,

1:10:39 Okay, if China or Russia does this, you're not protecting China or

1:10:43 Russia, right, You're gonna let them try to protect themselves. And it

1:10:45 seems like the United States is the one directly implicated in this cover up.

1:10:47 They're the ones where White House is calling Malaysia every time. Right. Yeah,

1:10:50 they didn't release this radar data for weeks. They didn't release the emmer

1:10:54 said data for weeks, presumably because they were developing a cover story for this.

1:10:58 And this is why again that the lithium ion battery fire is the perfect

1:11:01 real explanation. It's such a mundane event. It's like, why are you

1:11:05 covering this lithium ion battery fire up? And the answer is pretty simple,

1:11:09 because they deployed this technology that is classified that cannot be revealed to the public

1:11:13 under any circumstances. And that fully explains why then you would do this elaborate

1:11:17 cover up, which, in my opinion, you can look at two ways.

1:11:19 It's elaborate in the sense that they repeat the lie over and over and

1:11:23 over again. They get all the media to repeat the lie, and that's

1:11:26 probably the reason why the media won't talk to me. They're happy to make

1:11:29 fun of some kid in Vegas who thinks he saw aliens and you know,

1:11:31 completely tear him down if they put me on, you know that they know

1:11:35 the official narrors are going to get destroyed, right, And that's the reason

1:11:38 why the media hasn't reached out. It's very easy to a lot of people,

1:11:41 like the Seinfeld episode, just repeat the lie long enough and people believe

1:11:44 it to be true. Sometimes you and you can tell there's a lot of

1:11:49 people that do, and they're stuck on this idea that the debris somehow proves

1:11:53 that this plane crash when it's exact opposite. Interestingly enough, there was a

1:11:58 second plane, if I'm not mistaken, right, I don't think there's any

1:12:02 evidence for there being any to decoy or second plane. Now, there was

1:12:06 a second plane that was purchased in October of twenty thirteen by GA Telesis,

1:12:11 which has military connections. But the thing about there being a second plane involved

1:12:15 is you'd have to have radar for it, right, and this radar for

1:12:17 the plane would have to go through multiple countries, countries that are not going

1:12:20 to cover this up for the United States government. But what I did want

1:12:24 to say in terms of the lies told is that, yes, in some

1:12:28 sense, it's a very extensive cover up, but it's also a very sloppy

1:12:30 one. I mean, look at how much we were able to destroy this

1:12:32 narrative with just a Twitter account and Google access. All we've been doing this

1:12:36 is all publicly available data. We've just been looking back at the old news

1:12:40 articles and we're realizing how inconsistent everything. You know, it's not like you

1:12:44 have access to a classified server exactly. And a lot of what we've been

1:12:46 doing is watching these videos and just deducing information from the videos and then using

1:12:50 publicly available data to prove that those deductions are correct. Yeah yeah, And

1:12:58 Okay, so they deploy this technology, they so continue yeah, so continue

1:13:09 on, they deploy. The other point I want to get to is like

1:13:12 who the leaker is? Right, So we've now built this psychologological profile,

1:13:15 right, and we've showed that this technology got deployed. So you're the person

1:13:19 on this plane filming it and you see this happen, and you don't even

1:13:24 know this technology is possible. You have to have access to the highest level

1:13:28 security clearances. Compartmentalized information access to the spy satellite. We think they also

1:13:32 have to be an operator because that this, you know, they added this

1:13:35 thermal layer. Normally these fleers are black and white, shows a lot of

1:13:40 intent. We don't think they're a spy because they remove the HUT data,

1:13:43 they crop this other information. They're trying to do the right thing. And

1:13:45 if we assume this is the US government filming here, then this person who's

1:13:48 leaking it also has to be a US military asset. This is where I

1:13:51 started to realize, like, wow, I might be able to figure out

1:13:54 who this person is. One thing I found is that you can't hide these

1:13:58 types of court martials unless Marshall Law is currently in place. And that's when

1:14:01 I realized, wow, there probably has to be a record. They probably

1:14:04 had to have obsuscated what this person was really charged with, but there should

1:14:09 be some type of paper trail that leads back to them. So I searched

1:14:12 for weeks. I looked up you know, there's actually Wikipedia lists you can

1:14:15 see of all the people who were charged with espionage WILL for retention of classified

1:14:17 data, will for retention of National security defense information, And I looked up

1:14:23 all these people that are publicly known, even snowed in Chelsea Manning, and

1:14:27 I was looking for a window. I kept it pretty broad, but I

1:14:30 thought, like, they're going to catch this person under three years for sure.

1:14:32 And then I came across person named Lieutenant Commander Edward C. Linn.

1:14:36 And what I like to do is pull up right now the piece on him,

1:14:40 because I think that it is extremely damning in terms of the fact that

1:14:45 this guy has to be the person. So let me go ahead and pull

1:14:47 this up real quick. And I just want to present it because now what

1:14:51 we've known about all this, I think that everybody at home who's watching along

1:14:56 here will also find this information extremely compelling. I think this is the one.

1:15:00 Yeah, this is the one. So I went through and I started

1:15:03 looking at every single news article about this guy, and it was all very

1:15:08 unusual and suspicious. He checks every single box in here. He's a naval

1:15:14 flight officer with experience in signals intelligence singand that's all we've been talking about.

1:15:18 He flew aboard a US Navy Lockheed Martin EP three ARES two spy plane.

1:15:25 I looked at this spy plane. The spy plane has real time video playback

1:15:28 on it. The spy plane here is potentially one of the a Wax the

1:15:31 Kate tcs that the Frenchman was told about that existed out there. He was

1:15:36 held in pre trial detained confinement for the moment he was arrested September eleventh,

1:15:41 twenty fifteen. They tried to get him as a spy and it was the

1:15:45 first instance since the Cold War that somebody had been charged with this type of

1:15:49 thing for an active duty member. They tried to charge him for life in

1:15:53 prison. Keep in mind, they're throwing the book at this guy, right,

1:15:56 they're trying to make him go away forever. They're actually trying to prove

1:15:59 that he's a sp like disappear Leworth. Yeah, they're trying to disapear and

1:16:04 they want to make sure that he's in containment, that he can't be talked

1:16:06 to the public. Right. His charge sheet is heavily redacted, including all

1:16:12 the dates. They don't want there to be any paper trail back to that

1:16:15 you can prove that it's related to these videos, because if we see the

1:16:16 dates, they're going to be able to see that there's related to these videos

1:16:19 pretty pretty likely. So he was on a surveillance aircraft that gathers and processes

1:16:25 signals intelligence. There was growing doubt as to whether or not the government will

1:16:28 be able to prove that he's a spy. He had a high level clearance

1:16:31 the most sensitive UH information intelligence and he was part of this specialized squadron that's

1:16:38 called the Special Project Squadron two for Signals Intelligence exploitation. He had access to

1:16:44 the Navy's Black Program portfolio, which again, if we're looking at highly sensitive

1:16:48 technology, here he's the guy, right. They said that his knowledge could

1:16:53 be extremely useful to potential adversaries. Again, what they thought is because then

1:16:58 they're looking at these videos, they're thinking this person is giving this information to

1:17:01 China and Russia when they do this. Right now, look at his time

1:17:04 where he was deployed in Hawaii for this on this project. February twenty fourteen,

1:17:10 this month before the videos happened, right month before the plane goes missing.

1:17:14 Now, if we keep going down, here here's the secret program.

1:17:15 He was part of the VPU two, one of the most secretive units in

1:17:19 the service in the Navy. That now this quote, this case did not

1:17:24 turn out to be related to foreign intelligence, not really a spy case,

1:17:28 but it stends a strong message to safeguard classified and sensitive information, despite there

1:17:32 being no evidence that he ever exchanged sensitive information with China. Now this is

1:17:39 the weirdest part. His defense attorney argued that the classified information is available on

1:17:45 the internet. Well, I mean this is this is our videos, right.

1:17:47 He actually got two charges. The only two charges that he admitted to

1:17:53 were of holding secret information. And people argue, well, wouldn't it be

1:17:57 top secret? And I would counter argue, first of all, trying to

1:18:00 obfuscate the situation, so you don't want it to be very obvious. But

1:18:02 the other part is if it's available on the internet, I highly doubt that

1:18:05 it's going to be considered top secret. Then the government came back and said,

1:18:10 just because the information is available on the internet does not declassify it.

1:18:13 Now, this might be the most damning. In twenty fourteen, he accidentally

1:18:16 left two flight manifests in his flight suit from a deployment that included search and

1:18:19 rescue code names. I can't think of any other search and rescue operation in

1:18:25 twenty fourteen. Now, in exchange for admitting to the lesser two charges,

1:18:30 he did not face the charges of espionage. They made him take a plea

1:18:33 deal so he took his plea deal so he can never talk again. He

1:18:38 got a nine year sentence despite the fact that he took a plea deal,

1:18:41 which is huge. These people that were other people if you go look them

1:18:44 up that were given these charges, and I looked up a lot of them,

1:18:46 most of almost all of them got slaps on the wrists, like one

1:18:49 the three no jail time. This guy's getting nine years after a plea deal,

1:18:54 after they're trying to put him in life and he had already spent six

1:18:58 hundred and forty six days is for time served. They had him locked up

1:19:01 the whole time, throughout the whole trial and didn't let him out. Yeah,

1:19:04 so he was stuck in the brigs that men. So they took this

1:19:08 extremely seriously. They even ran a sting operation on him the months before he

1:19:12 was arrested. The FBI did to try to prove that he was a spy.

1:19:15 I'm pretty sure they had a woman's sleep with him in a honeypot situation.

1:19:17 Ah why they tried to tell the prostitution charges on him. So they're

1:19:21 trying to throw all these extra charges on there to obfuscate the situation. But

1:19:26 it doesn't add up. Right. What does add up is that this guy

1:19:29 either leaked these videos or he was connected somehow to the person that did.

1:19:32 Now this quote here, he never spied on his country. He served faithfully

1:19:36 for seventeen years. He accepts responsibility for the offenses he was actually guilty of,

1:19:42 and then he agreed to debrief and assist the FBI and cis now his

1:19:46 own personal quote. I think tells a lot about his own psychology. I

1:19:49 want to point out this guy was abused in prison during pre trial containment.

1:19:54 I looked that up as well. He actually reported his abuse that he got.

1:19:58 They they would go through and rummage through his cell all the time.

1:20:02 He felt like they called him the goon squad. They would put him outside

1:20:05 in the cold. He says, I think physically ill about the damage that

1:20:09 I would have caused for my actions. I'm exhausted and broken in spirit.

1:20:13 The best thing I can do is serve as a caution detail to others.

1:20:15 And this part starts to tear me up a little bit. But I want

1:20:17 to let him know if you are agents three seven zero, sir, you

1:20:20 are not a trader. You are my hero, and I salute you,

1:20:25 not just that I am going to formally ask for a full pardon for this

1:20:29 man if he is agent three seven zero from the United States President. I

1:20:32 think that this man saw what this happened, and if this information in technology

1:20:36 is true, he took a huge sacrifice to try to leak this to the

1:20:41 public and get us to realize it. And we did this man a serious

1:20:45 injustice by not realizing these videos were real for nine years while he sat in

1:20:48 prison, and he was released relatively recently based on that timeframe there. And

1:20:54 I can't even imagine what must be going through his mind if he is the

1:20:57 person that leaked these videos. I can't. I you kind of just blew

1:21:03 my mind a little bit. Man. Yeah, I mean I think that

1:21:06 evidence is extremely, extremely compelling. We're not going to find somebody else that

1:21:11 checks as many boxes as this guy does. I will threw all the people

1:21:14 out there. It seems like it has to be him. And if that's

1:21:17 the case, he can't come out and speak to it. So if we

1:21:19 pass this law in twenty twenty four, this whistleblower long protection where he can

1:21:27 come out against the plea deal and tell the truth, because if he can,

1:21:30 he can prove the whole thing and blow the whole case wide open.

1:21:33 But what should really happen is the President of the United State should step in,

1:21:38 give him a full pardon, reinstate his entire rank, and tell the

1:21:41 truth about what happened here. Well, it's not going to happen with Biden

1:21:45 because Biden. I mean, it's going to have to be a few whoever

1:21:49 comes next. Uh, that's my opinion. I just I don't. I

1:21:56 think the guy is already to mention on his plate. And I don't know

1:22:00 how the election is going to go. I'm not political, but it is

1:22:03 what it is. But I if this man is that person, I do

1:22:08 think you are are absolutely correct. Not only is there is he not a

1:22:15 trader, but he is is someone that someone that that that is just like

1:22:21 David Grush. Yeah, you just tried to blow the whistle. And that's

1:22:26 what people talk about is that in order to get true disclosure, somebody would

1:22:29 have to do exactly what we think happened here, which is they would have

1:22:31 to go against their nda, go against their sworn oath, and leak this

1:22:35 information. And that again shows this emotional reaction to watching the videos from in

1:22:41 real time. As somebody said, there's no way where ever gonna get the

1:22:44 truth unless these videos get leaked. Not just one video, we needed two

1:22:46 videos. I mean, how many unusual UAP videos are there out there where

1:22:50 you have two different videos, both from the most advanced military equipment on the

1:22:56 planet, that both show the same thing from different angles. There's none,

1:23:00 not a single one like this. So this to me is like, this

1:23:03 person did everything, and we did them the injustice of letting them go to

1:23:06 prison for nine years, seven to nine years. Over this, it's honestly

1:23:12 just gut wrenching. Well, it's hard because those military cases they keep really

1:23:16 close to the chest that you know that those ones like you know, unlike

1:23:23 the one that just happened, I forget what the kid's name is, Yeah,

1:23:27 Jack Taharah. Yeah, that's interesting because what that shows us is that

1:23:31 they even give a twenty year old access to all the Ukraine Russia war military

1:23:36 war information. He basically just posted all over discord and completely destroyed all the

1:23:40 fake narratives about Ukraine winning the war and Russia's getting destroyed. And turns out

1:23:45 now that you know, Russia's absolutely a blitter in Ukraine and Ukraine has no

1:23:47 chance. Yeah, it just like and I think they actually change the comprementalization

1:23:53 of that information because it was simply too available at that point. Although in

1:23:57 this case, I think what we're seeing here is magnitudes more secret than that

1:24:00 type of information, right, and you would really have to have this type

1:24:04 of very advanced access and potentially be one of these operators in order to be

1:24:09 able to lead this information. In my opinion. I want to point out

1:24:12 as well that in these videos, we're not watching someone take it with a

1:24:14 camera. They're not filming with a camera behind the screen. I looked very

1:24:17 carefully to make sure they're doing a screen recording through the citric session. This

1:24:21 meant that they were one hundred percent and knew they were going to get caught.

1:24:25 That the citric session is going to be able to be traced back to

1:24:28 somebody on the plane wherever they took this from. If they went back home

1:24:30 and did it, they're gonna be able to trace that back. So this

1:24:33 person knew that they were making a sacrifice by putting this information out there,

1:24:38 which you know, just yeah, really emotional. Wow, that's it that

1:24:43 I didn't even think of that aspect of it. And the reason why they

1:24:46 had to do this is if you take it with your cell phone. Yeah,

1:24:48 if you take it with a camera and your cell phone, they're gonna

1:24:51 be able to cast out on it, right, They're going to say that

1:24:54 you faked out in your camera or whatever you did. Yeah, When you're

1:24:59 taking with the actual spy satellite database, now it's a lot more difficult to

1:25:02 cast down. And as you can see from the debunkers, they've all given

1:25:04 up. Even the debunkers like we just talked about, they're not even the

1:25:10 footage. They're trying to attack the ZA And in my opinion, the reason

1:25:14 why they're attacking that from the disinformation perspective is they want to have an angle

1:25:17 where they can admit that the footage is real because it's undeniable. So the

1:25:20 only thing that they can then do is say, well, this part that

1:25:23 looks that most people will be unwilling to accept anyway, let's just cast out

1:25:27 on that part of it. So then maybe we can come out and say,

1:25:30 yes, the footage is real, but it was somehow modified. We're

1:25:31 not gonna let that happen. The footage is one hundred percent authentic, and

1:25:34 we're gonna have the absolute truth. We're gonna have disclosure on our terms.

1:25:40 And that's what I love. I love your drive about this and I want

1:25:45 to know, so why and how did the the actual videos leak and why

1:25:50 does this case become as large as it is as it is. I know

1:25:55 we're going back, but we didn't really get into we got into the timeframe,

1:26:00 but it was only a couple days after where the videos surfaced, right,

1:26:06 So I mean, if you look at it, it really depends on

1:26:09 whether or not you believe regisicided non account was involved directly in the videos,

1:26:14 because if they're not involved, then there's no reason for them to lie about

1:26:18 the time that they received those videos. So I'll go ahead and pull it

1:26:23 up right now, we can just look for ourselves. Yeah, that everybody

1:26:25 can see, sure screen. I think it's this one. This is the

1:26:33 one. I think this is the right one. Yeah. So if we

1:26:36 look at this archive footage here, did that just break it? Yeah?

1:26:42 I did. Let me pull so and we were just looking at these videos

1:26:46 a second. But you can kind of see it's a little bit small here.

1:26:48 Maybe I'll zoom in. Yeah, that's better. Yeah, so that's

1:26:54 a little bit better. So if we see here, you can see that

1:26:57 this from this regicide account and not in here that the received dates March twelfth,

1:27:00 twenty fourteen, for the first satellite picture and it was uploaded on May

1:27:05 nineteenth, So this is where we get the four days is March twelfth.

1:27:09 So unless this person was lying about when they received it, and you can

1:27:12 see the source here says protected on their other videos, this account was just

1:27:15 a random UFO account that had other videos that posted before this, and it

1:27:19 seems like what happened here is this footage somehow got leaked to them, potentially

1:27:23 through a forum or from the dark web potentially. Yeah, and so this

1:27:29 really narrows the timer down in which people have to fake this is that you

1:27:32 have between four days or March May nineteenth day, then you have seventy two

1:27:36 days, even seventy two days. I mean we're talking this is going to

1:27:40 take a team of people that would have had to develop this, that would

1:27:42 spent all day and night. We've had people try to recreate it. Told

1:27:45 people that we pay them to recreate it. People's responses are, well,

1:27:47 it's not worth my time. Okay, Well, so then why is some

1:27:50 random person doing this? Right? I talked to I talked to Marvel Studios

1:27:56 now I don't think people understand. So I talked to the Marvel Studios lead

1:28:00 VFX guy, Jeffrey Ford. If anyone wants to look him up. I

1:28:03 sent him the videos via text, and I told you how long. I

1:28:08 asked him how long it would take for him to make it, and he

1:28:12 said that, first off, if he had to make it, or the

1:28:17 first thing he asked me was these would be extremely extremely really good, like

1:28:26 professional fakes if they're faked at all, and second all, Second of all,

1:28:31 he said, it would take him a minimum a minimum of if you're

1:28:35 doing two different perspectives, you're essentially creating three videos. You'd have to be

1:28:41 able to do want research on the satellite, you know, where everything is,

1:28:45 to make sure that it lines up properly so that it can't be poke

1:28:50 toles in. The minimum amount of time would be a buddy, you know,

1:28:57 like six months. I think, I think he said so, And

1:29:00 I guess they'll probably take a lot more than that too, but you know

1:29:01 that's just probably the actual effects. Yeah, So he said for him,

1:29:05 it would take about four to six months. So go ahead and share this

1:29:09 clip here. Because one of the things that we put together is we put

1:29:11 together a list of all things to be required. I'll just run through this

1:29:14 real quick and you'll see that there's just no chance at this point. So

1:29:16 you got between four and seventy two days. It's an original work. There's

1:29:19 nothing to copy from. So even the people that are trying to recreate it,

1:29:23 they're recreating from something that are they're looking at as opposed to something that's

1:29:26 like a complete original work. The volumetric clouds are accurate to animate the cameras

1:29:31 how the clouds form at low altitudes. These cumulus clouds are perfect. There's

1:29:34 no discrepancies anywhere in this footage how to accurately light them. When the zapp

1:29:39 goes off, what MH three seventy exactly looks like. It's a perfect recreation.

1:29:43 The exact turning radius of the B seven seven seven wall in descent is

1:29:46 actually maxing out the capabilities. This is where the as you see down here,

1:29:50 the top gun. Maverick artists came into play and said that they actually

1:29:55 had to cheat in that movie made in twenty twenty two because it was very

1:29:58 difficult to recreate the exact flight capabilities of the airplanes. You have to know

1:30:01 where it is because it's around the nick of our islands at the right time.

1:30:04 You'd have to build the coordinate shift program into the overlay. You'd have

1:30:09 to animate those coordinate shifts perfectly, as well what the weather was like,

1:30:13 because we looked at the weather satellites and it matches the weather satellite situation.

1:30:15 You'd have to know how to accurately create the exhaust or the smoke that we

1:30:19 see, as well as the orbs as you'll see down here, pass through

1:30:23 the smoke and they're accurately distorted when they go through it, which is one

1:30:26 of the hardest things to fake. And you have to know what the thermal

1:30:28 looks like. They would fool the experts. You'd have to have knowledge of

1:30:30 the military classified equipment. You'd have to know that they use this citric session

1:30:33 and for some reason build a citric session into your fake video. You would

1:30:39 have to know that the frame rate discrepancy to have the twenty four frames per

1:30:42 second on the mouse. You have to know what kind of specialized mouse they're

1:30:45 using when they're moving the screen around that does move the coordinate shifts. We've

1:30:49 linked this to a plural view three D video which has a special type of

1:30:54 mouse associated with it. You'd have to know what the satellites are in operation

1:30:59 with the false color eye looks like, you'd have to know how to create

1:31:00 the three D proven stereoscopic imagery you see. You'd have to know again how

1:31:05 to animate those orbs correctly in that particle system that we saw. For the

1:31:09 forward facing engine, you'd have to know the m Q one seed drone,

1:31:13 the payload. You'd have to know where that payload is tend to get the

1:31:15 exact angle. Then again, how not to use a two D visual effect

1:31:20 in a three D environment from a low quality nineties video game. But perhaps

1:31:25 the most important and interesting one is you'd have to know that we would never

1:31:28 find the plane, not even nine years later. Because we find a plane,

1:31:31 the whole hoax breaks down. So ultimately what we're looking at here is

1:31:34 that these are authentic videos. Wow, that's actually that's actually such a good

1:31:39 point. The hoax, the hoax, the hoax theory, right, this

1:31:45 is, if it was hoaxed, why still why have we still not found

1:31:51 Like if we had found to breathe, the whole thing would have been over,

1:31:55 YadA YadA, case wrapped up if we found afield, Yes, I

1:31:59 agree, or if on the plane somewhere right, and then the whole thing

1:32:01 would have collapsed. Right. And the thing about this is it's not twenty

1:32:04 fifteen or twenty fourteen anymore, right, it's twenty twenty three. It's been

1:32:08 talk about years nine, ten years now, and you're telling me that that

1:32:13 they have nothing exactly right. So we know that the official narratives are nonsense.

1:32:18 And we know now from looking at these videos and investigating them for ten

1:32:21 weeks that ever, we've used more evidence than anybody else to date to come

1:32:27 up with a comprehensive theory that makes sense that's one hundred percent consistent with the

1:32:30 videos. Is there a way to sync the videos up to where they are

1:32:36 showing the same exact thing? Oh, we've already done that too, So

1:32:42 okay, So one of that side by side, which we've shown several times

1:32:45 as well, so that the flash. Yeah, so like the flash goes

1:32:48 off at the same time. Yeah, I think it's like you know,

1:32:51 and people manually did this, So I don't know if it's like exactly,

1:32:54 it might not be exactly close enough you're going to be able to tell that

1:32:57 it's it. So let me share this real quick. Yeah, while he's

1:33:00 doing that. Guys, get those likes in. I think we're almost at

1:33:03 We're still nine away from fifty, trying to get to fifty on each live

1:33:11 stream that we do. We're gonna be doing one a week going forward.

1:33:15 But let's take a look at this video. Let me get this to the

1:33:18 side by side. This is the one I like to share the most because

1:33:20 you can see that they perfectly sync up. People have tried to cast out

1:33:25 in it, but it can't. They are in perfect sink with one another.

1:33:29 You'll see the orbs come at the same time, and you'll see the

1:33:31 orbs begin to go around the plane at the same time, right, and

1:33:35 you'll see the all the orbs appear at the right time. So now the

1:33:39 second orbs coming into play, say that out of you, But now we

1:33:42 have two orbs, and then the third orb is there as well. Oh

1:33:45 my god, it's and so fucking perfect. And we can see too why

1:33:49 you would leap the second video because you can't see those trails in front of

1:33:53 the orbs, and the satellite video gives way more information in this thermal they're

1:33:58 really in my mind, proves of what we're seeing here is reverse engineer technology.

1:34:01 Or that we're just secretly, somehow fifty to one hundred years more advanced

1:34:05 than the public. Now we can see that there are vertically circling around them

1:34:09 and then zap gone In both videos the same time, and again the trail's

1:34:14 gone, the person zooms out and kind of looks around. But I would

1:34:17 argue they're not really looking around. If you are someone who's watching that in

1:34:23 real time, then when you get to this part here where the plane zapps

1:34:26 out, I'm looking everywhere. I'm looking around trying to figure out where did

1:34:30 you go? What did I just see? As opposed to just like casually

1:34:32 zooming out and being like, okay, we're good. Right, it's like

1:34:35 the zoom out just for intelligence purposes, and they kind of moved around a

1:34:39 little bit, But I would be like freaking out right, I would be

1:34:42 did I see just what just happened? Right? And in the satellite version,

1:34:46 while we don't see it here, this is a playback. And the

1:34:49 reason why we know that too is that they actually moved the satellite to the

1:34:53 right at the end, not in this particular one, but when they move

1:34:56 it to the right at the end, it's almost like they're showing us.

1:34:58 Hey, Now, this isn't a magic trick, like the plane's not over

1:35:00 here to the right, it's just straight up gone. Yeah, I mean,

1:35:05 how blowing people's minds here? I think, dude, this is overwhelming.

1:35:11 It's like overwhelming. The reason why, you know, if you look

1:35:15 at my following, just from the last ten weeks, I went from being

1:35:18 nobody who had thirty random fake bot followers to now we have I'm gonna probably

1:35:24 guess fourteen thousand, two hundred or something like that, because the weight of

1:35:28 the evidence is so compelling that people who are out there that have open minds

1:35:32 are you know, they believe it, and they know that this stuff is

1:35:35 authentic. And the reality is we're not gonna be able to reach everybody.

1:35:39 There's a lot of people out there that are not going to be able to

1:35:42 accept that this can be real because what comes along with it is this whole

1:35:45 weight that we've got a lot, right, yeah, an onotological shock,

1:35:49 but also the fact that you know, there's a disinformation campaign and this is

1:35:53 just the biggest, most verifiable conspiracy in the history of the world. And

1:35:57 that means that people will get lied to probably every single day on TV,

1:36:00 right, like we would pointing out on why they won't address this on national

1:36:03 television. I thought when I first started this that, you know, or

1:36:08 in the early days, that I would hand this off to a real journalist

1:36:11 who would dig into it whatever, and nobody did. And that's when I

1:36:14 started to realize, like how deep the conspiracy potentially goes is that you are

1:36:18 specifically being told not to report on it. You know why that is?

1:36:23 They want to keep their scoops and they want to keep their their their their

1:36:28 contacts at the White House, and they want to get there, you know

1:36:31 the washing, you know, like places like the Washington Post we we joke

1:36:34 around and call it the CIA Post, right uh, the Boston Globe.

1:36:40 They all want to keep their their their inroads with the with the White House,

1:36:45 with the government so they can continue getting their stories and and and leads

1:36:48 and be invited to White House, you know, press conferences all that.

1:36:55 They don't want to burn bridges by by running one story. And if they're

1:37:00 too is that And I don't know that it's all the individual reporters, but

1:37:02 it's the people that are above the reporters, right, But they're the ones

1:37:06 who get told like if you report on this, you know, you know

1:37:10 that's the end for you guys, right, or that these people already have

1:37:13 these types of connections with the government where their very buddy buddy, and it

1:37:15 doesn't take very much. Just don't report on this, that's all you have

1:37:17 to do. And that it makes you the question what else are they telling

1:37:20 them not to report on? And how much are they influencing what we see

1:37:24 on TV every day? You know, at this point, it's been so

1:37:27 long of the silence. You know, I started the clock on I think

1:37:30 I was doing I'm working on this other piece of the history of the investigation.

1:37:33 And I even blew my own my own mind when I looked at it

1:37:36 was like August fourteenth or August sixteenth was when I started the clock, wondering

1:37:40 the longer the media doesn't report on this, the less likely I'm going to

1:37:44 be inclined to believe anything that they say. And we're now more than two

1:37:46 months later and they still haven't touch this. So that's the part where I

1:37:50 think it's deeply concerning to me. So if there are journalists out there listening

1:37:54 right now that are honest journalists, do your job. I've done more investigative

1:37:59 journal then all mainstream media combined for the last ten weeks. It's time for

1:38:03 somebody to really get serious, to do their job, take a risk,

1:38:06 be brave. Let's get the truth out there. That's it. That's it.

1:38:11 All we want is the truth. And and I don't think that and

1:38:15 and and I don't think that's a big ask because at the end of the

1:38:19 day, these technologies, our taxes, everything that we do, like the

1:38:28 government works for the people. This is how it is supposed to work.

1:38:33 Yet somewhere along the lines, these career bureaucrats have changed the game on us.

1:38:40 And they they've they've made it a system where those in power stay in

1:38:46 power, and these temporary employees like the president, like your congressman, all

1:38:51 you have to do is wait them out. Something about that too, is

1:38:56 that if you go look back at the president's and like, let's just say

1:39:00 their last three or four presidents, I mean, even going back to Bill

1:39:01 Clinton, potentially a lot of these people, even Obama have you know,

1:39:05 they have said that they would reveal the truth when they got in. The

1:39:08 campaigned on it. Even Trump I think mentioned it as well. It's almost

1:39:13 like the moment they get in, they get the call and the call is,

1:39:15 Hey, you're not going to talk about this anymore, and they start

1:39:17 acting completely weird and different about it. Hey, I'm actually I feel like

1:39:20 I've tried to leak it out there, like he's actually said that, you

1:39:24 know, joking, like he would jokingly say that, yeah, this stuff's

1:39:27 real on I forget which a late night talk show and stuff like that.

1:39:30 Jimmy Jimmy Fallon and he's creating him. Him and his wife have a production

1:39:34 company and they are filming Betty and Barney Hill documentary. So why why would

1:39:44 they be involved in that? Yeah? And so, and I think you

1:39:46 have the good point too about their temporary employees, right, So people that

1:39:50 are the ones who are really hiding are probably the people that are, you

1:39:55 know, the career military people and the people that have the connections of these

1:39:57 companies like Lockheed Martin North, these companies that are getting billions and millions of

1:40:01 dollars every year from the government, that from a commercial perspective, they don't

1:40:05 have any commercial presence, right or very little, and that they're very close

1:40:10 ties in military and intelligence. A lot of these videos I've been showing you

1:40:13 will come from them directly. I was actually surprised to find that all this

1:40:15 stuff is publicly available to Cibber system stuff. I mean, if I was

1:40:18 them, I wouldn't be having that out in the public because look what we

1:40:21 just did. We just blew up their whole conspiracy with this information. Absolutely.

1:40:26 And then if you could subpoena two or three people who or even two

1:40:33 or three three letter agencies, you know, because you want some congressional yeah,

1:40:42 you want congressional publicity, and I'll be happy to put you in contact

1:40:46 with mister Burshett would love to be Yeah, he's a good friend. So

1:40:51 you have asked. You know, we're on good, very very good term.

1:40:55 So if you could submite, subpoena three or four people, people from

1:41:00 from I don't know agencies, who would they be? Well, first thing

1:41:04 I would say is if Burshett or any of the other congressmen who I've sent

1:41:09 the letters to, who I've been calling their offices, put me in Congress

1:41:12 and testify, this whole thing will one hundred percent unravel. We will get

1:41:15 true disclosure on our terms. And it doesn't matter if they admit to it,

1:41:17 because if you televise this to the world, to the nation, it's

1:41:21 going to go viral everywhere, and at that point what we will have is

1:41:26 people you know, it becomes self evident. At that point, people will

1:41:29 know that the official narratives were nonsense. And then it won't matter if people

1:41:31 admit to it or not, because at that point everybody, anytime anyone talks

1:41:34 about this go yep. The US government hit that they have advanced technology,

1:41:38 et cetera. If I were just subpoena anyone, the first people would be

1:41:41 the people are in Freedom Information Act requesting, which is the NRO. They

1:41:45 are the ones the National Constant Office who are in charge of the satellite launches.

1:41:48 There's no chance that they are not involved in this. In fact,

1:41:51 they denied my Freedom Information Act requests. I've been waiting months now for any

1:41:56 information they have in Malaysian airlines, any information they have on USA two two

1:42:00 nine, and there will be a paper trail I presume there that will connect

1:42:04 them directly to this. I would also subpoena former general, retired General Joseph

1:42:12 F. Dunford, who I, through a source, have found out that

1:42:15 his nephew showed him these videos and that he took them extremely seriously. Turns

1:42:19 out I didn't know who he was at the time, and it doesn't sound

1:42:23 familiar. Yeah, yeah. If you google him, I think you should,

1:42:27 you'll find that he was potentially the person who's in charge of the international

1:42:29 Security Forces in twenty fourteen. I'm sorry, what was his name? Joseph

1:42:33 F. Dunford General retired general. Now you'll notice that he was in charge

1:42:38 of the security Forces in twenty fourteen, that would potentially been in charge of

1:42:42 this type of operation. He went on to become the highest ranked military officer,

1:42:45 advisor to the President, to the Department of the Secretary of Defense,

1:42:51 and then he retired in twenty nineteen. And where is he now Board of

1:42:56 directors at Lockheed Martin. Of course he's in law. Of course he's at

1:43:00 Lockeyed Martin. That's what they do. They go from they go from the

1:43:08 government to the private sector and they remain they basically they just change desks.

1:43:14 Not just the private sector. Potentially the same place that could be developing a

1:43:16 reverse engineering the technology that we see in the videos. So if he was

1:43:20 in charge of this operation and this operation was covered up successfully, it seems

1:43:25 like that would be a nice promotion to be in the highest ranked military officer

1:43:28 there is and then going on to being the board of directors of a company

1:43:30 that potentially is involved in the technology that we see in the videos. So

1:43:33 I want to say as well that I have the highest respect for the military.

1:43:36 I don't enjoy exposing people's lives like this. But the reality then there's

1:43:45 people that know the truth right, and I think that in their minds,

1:43:47 they're doing the right thing by hiding this. Maybe they think that it could

1:43:50 be the end of the world, society might collapse, you know, something

1:43:55 major like that in their minds, I think we reached the point where we

1:43:58 can accept this information to be true. And I'm sure that the military people

1:44:00 are involved can't break their oath and speak the truth about it. But the

1:44:04 reality is they need to force the people who can speak about it to do

1:44:09 so. They need to make the government admit that what we're looking at is

1:44:11 MH three seven zero, and they need to admit that they have this technology

1:44:14 that's been hidden, because, as you pointed out, a lot of people

1:44:16 will argue this is a crime against humanity. It can change the circumstances of

1:44:19 so many people if it's real, if it's true, and that it gets

1:44:23 out to the public. Yeah, And here's the other thing about it is

1:44:26 that this information has already leaked to China and Russia. Right, These videos

1:44:30 have been out there for nine years. Their intelligence would have figured out that

1:44:32 they're real long before I did. If I could figure it out from a

1:44:35 Twitter account on Google, then China Russian military have long figured it out,

1:44:41 right. So it's not like we're protecting this information from our adversaries anymore.

1:44:45 So it's time to let it come out. It's been nine years. Let's

1:44:47 be honest about it. Let's rip the band aid off. The people that

1:44:50 won't be able to believe it aren't going to be able to believe it anyway,

1:44:54 and then the people that will believe it, the scientists and what have

1:44:56 you. We can change the world. And this could be a moment where

1:45:04 not only the government could come forward and make maybe you know, because Chuck

1:45:10 Schumer's bill albeit and it hasn't gone through yet, it would put pressure and

1:45:16 it would start the clock for these you know, private aerospace companies to admit

1:45:23 that they have reverse engineered materials and that they have to you know, report

1:45:31 it to the military. You can keep it, you can keep it,

1:45:34 but you have to admit it. And there needs to be oversight. Right,

1:45:39 So if that bill passes, then we're on a really good trajectory.

1:45:43 But at the end of the day, we're going to have to show some

1:45:46 capability for immunity for people that come forward who are a part of these programs,

1:45:53 because not everyone knows and we know how these black programs are run.

1:45:58 They're run very compartmentalized. You might not even know you're working on something when

1:46:02 you're working on something, right, You're just told to do your portion of

1:46:05 it. So we've got to be a little careful at pointing the fingers.

1:46:10 But someone does need to be held accountable for this in some capacity, and

1:46:17 it shouldn't be that guy who spent nine years in prison, if that's the

1:46:21 real person. So where do we go from here? What's your next step?

1:46:28 Again, I'd love to have more conversations with you. I'd love to

1:46:30 include you in some of the touch. Yeah, I would love to stay

1:46:33 in touch, And I have very much a passion. You've laid out such

1:46:38 a clear Have you ever thought about making a documentary? Yeah, you know,

1:46:43 I'm keeping a lot of stuff close to the chest at this point because

1:46:45 you know, I do think that there's a disinformation campaign that wants to try

1:46:47 to discredit me, to try to keep these secret, which will be very

1:46:50 difficult. But you know, we have a lot of stuffs in the works

1:46:54 at the moment, and you know, we're trying to get this information out

1:46:58 there across any platform that we can across, any people that will listen,

1:47:00 and the broadest audiences that will listen as well. So you know, if

1:47:04 those large podcasters are out there that are listening, I am ready to bring

1:47:08 this information there. I guarantee you it will be one of the biggest shows

1:47:11 you've ever had. If that's what you care about, That's not what I

1:47:13 care about. I don't care about being famous. I would be happy with

1:47:15 going back to be a normal person. However, I don't know that that's

1:47:18 necessarily in the cards anymore. So we are working on several different things,

1:47:24 and if you are somebody out there that has the ability to make a documentary

1:47:27 and that type of thing, you know, I would urge you to reach

1:47:29 out to me or the people that are close to me that are my confidants,

1:47:33 because you know, again the documentary too, like if you compare the

1:47:36 Netflix documentary that out there, which I'm just gonna go ahead and say is

1:47:39 total crap. They should just take that down. We can make a documentary

1:47:43 out of this information that will be at least one hundred times better, maybe

1:47:47 quite a bit longer as well. So there is definitely a lot of opportunity

1:47:50 out there to get this information out there. And I'll be following up in

1:47:54 every path that will lead to that happen. Yeah. Well, I'd love

1:47:57 to be involved in that, in that documentary, because you know, that's

1:48:01 what I went to film school for. So you know, if I have

1:48:06 enough equipment to to uh to house a small TV studio, so you name

1:48:12 the date at the time, and and and I'll take uh, I'll take

1:48:15 the necessary uh uh uh precautions and and we'll we'll start working. And and

1:48:21 I'm happy to be involved in this or happy to accommodate you, you know,

1:48:30 as long as we could put it out on the channel, of course.

1:48:31 And and because I think this this is You've built a solid case,

1:48:36 a much more solid case than the official narrative. And and how can people

1:48:43 follow you? How can people I know you have several groups you shut down

1:48:46 the discord for people leaking information, So what's going on there? Yeah?

1:48:53 So you know we've got that closed down. I've got we've got a good

1:48:56 group in there. Like our discord, the community that we're setting is setting

1:49:00 a higher bar and higher standard than the rest of the Internet. I think

1:49:02 that I look across the internet, very social media platforms, and I'm pretty

1:49:05 disgusted by the level of discourse that I see in general. And so you

1:49:10 know, people are coming with love for comments, trying to cut people down,

1:49:13 trying to condescend people. You're not going to be part of my community

1:49:15 for very long. And that's across all our platforms. But right now the

1:49:19 main place you can find me is at Twitter, I guess ex Corp.

1:49:23 At just x Ashton. As you can see on the screen right now.

1:49:27 I do want to thank Elon Musk you though, I mean I'm not necessarily

1:49:29 a fan or I hate him, but he has not to this point allowed

1:49:31 the government to censor us during this investigation, which I'm not confident that that

1:49:35 would be the case under old leadership. So that's where you can find my

1:49:40 primary work. I have all my works in all my works document that can

1:49:45 be found there. I'm also working on a comprehensive all Evidence to Date version

1:49:48 two. There's an older one as well, but we found out more evidence

1:49:53 as well since then, so you'll be able to find everything there, all

1:49:57 my pieces, so that you can follow that investigation together. Because one thing

1:50:00 I like to say is that the people are following get to be part of

1:50:02 the greatest conspiracy and greatest story ever told, which is the real story of

1:50:06 m H three seven zero. So it's still time to get on board and

1:50:10 get involved and to follow along with it. And you can be part of

1:50:13 the fun too. Yeah. And for like like I said, guys,

1:50:17 keep follow ash him. He's going to be going right into his space.

1:50:23 I'm gonna jump in. We'll say hello. I think your guest is Roy

1:50:28 Yeah, Roydy Hibbert Herbert. Yeah. He is a theoretical physicist, very

1:50:32 intelligent person. I've been talking to him and DMS. We're gonna be going

1:50:36 through the science we're going to talk through. I'm gonna read off my letter

1:50:40 and so we are going to be kind of continuing this conversation here in next

1:50:44 fifteen to thirty minutes or so. For the people who are watching live,

1:50:46 well, I'll pop in and I'd love to say hi, and and maybe

1:50:51 we can uh throw a throw a promotional thing to the to the interview,

1:50:58 but thank you so much for coming out tonight and for everyone watch and thank

1:51:01 you. Ashton's gonna go, he's gonna get set up for his Twitter spaces

1:51:06 and we want to thank him, uh for this first and hopefully, you

1:51:11 know, for many conversations in the future. I think what you're doing is

1:51:15 is pivotal. It's it's not pivotal, it's it's it's needed. It's it's

1:51:19 a much needed service. And for you to be doing this on your own

1:51:24 time and your own dime just shows the dedication. So much respect to you,

1:51:29 my friend, and you're always welcome back on total disclosure. Let's keep

1:51:32 exploring the mysteries of the unknown together. Sounds good time. Thanks a lot,

1:51:36 We'll be in touch, all right. Thank you, skip people APPETI