**BONUS** The BIGGEST Government Secret They Don't Want You To Know? Cryptids Conspiracies & Alien Contact

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1:24 Speaker 5: Absolutely welcome back to Total Disclosure. I'm your host, Ti.

1:34 Speaker 5: I am going to be a little bit more consistent

1:36 Speaker 5: about these live shows every week, and I'm super excited

1:39 Speaker 5: to kick that off with an old friend and kind

1:42 Speaker 5: of be able to just banter and sit back and really.

1:46 Speaker 6: Like like kick this off with.

1:48 Speaker 5: Someone who's intelligent and that is you know, a host

1:51 Speaker 5: of Hollywood After Dark. Matt Jarbo, you are one of

1:56 Speaker 5: the most intelligent, intricate, complex people have the pleasure of knowing.

2:01 Speaker 5: And I just want to say thank you. It's been

2:03 Speaker 5: so long.

2:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't chit chatted in quite some time. Thank

2:07 Speaker 1: you very much for the warm introduction. I appreciate that.

2:10 Speaker 1: And Ty was always, uh, you know, been very dedicated

2:12 Speaker 1: to the craft, whether it was movies. Then when you

2:15 Speaker 1: made the transition to UFOs, I was like, okay, because

2:19 Speaker 1: it was to me it felt like just like a

2:20 Speaker 1: left field turn.

2:21 Speaker 4: You know, It's like all of a sudden, You're one

2:23 Speaker 4: day like.

2:24 Speaker 1: Man, f movies, dude, but like UAP's are pretty bad ass,

2:28 Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, that's a shift. But I'm

2:32 Speaker 1: still very much in the movie space, and so it's

2:34 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, that's where I'm at pretty

2:35 Speaker 1: much all the time. But but no, it's I'm really

2:38 Speaker 1: really happy to see that you've grown this thing. Uh.

2:40 Speaker 1: You know, it's a very dedicated community of people out

2:43 Speaker 1: there that are always in search of, you know, the

2:45 Speaker 1: truth obviously, and uh and while I'm not like, as

2:49 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not as into it as you know

2:51 Speaker 1: and as you guys are, I do find it to

2:53 Speaker 1: be a topic I've always you know, I always kind

2:55 Speaker 1: of go back to that quote from the movie Contact,

2:57 Speaker 1: right right, if we're the only ones or it's a

3:00 Speaker 1: gigantic waste of space.

3:02 Speaker 5: And that you know that that movie based on the

3:05 Speaker 5: book by Carl Sagan. There's another quote that gets thurned

3:09 Speaker 5: around the UFO community a lot, and it's with you know,

3:13 Speaker 5: like extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and that that's one

3:19 Speaker 5: that I really like, but I also don't like because

3:22 Speaker 5: for me, it's like, okay, record, the extraordinary claims require evidence.

3:30 Speaker 6: Evidence is evidence. It's not neither extraordinary or not.

3:33 Speaker 5: So I love the quote, I really do, because I

3:36 Speaker 5: think it it really says what's needed to be said

3:40 Speaker 5: because there are people like nowadays you just post, you know,

3:43 Speaker 5: pictures of planes and call it a UFO. Yeah, they're

3:46 Speaker 5: trying to get attention or you know, like the the

3:49 Speaker 5: spotlight put on them.

3:50 Speaker 6: And what I will say, you know, the pop culture community.

3:56 Speaker 5: Really it hardened me to what I was about to

4:04 Speaker 5: get into. So it actually helped in terms of transitioning topics.

4:10 Speaker 5: So and I understand where you're coming from.

4:12 Speaker 6: It's like, all right, dude, like kid just watched the

4:15 Speaker 6: water dry up on like the Snider verse and all that.

4:18 Speaker 5: Yeah, jump ship, right, and it was it was more

4:21 Speaker 5: I was like I hated every time I hit the

4:25 Speaker 5: live button or record like it was a struggle to

4:29 Speaker 5: get through.

4:30 Speaker 1: No, I completely understand. I took a lot of last

4:34 Speaker 1: year off, and it's because I got a new job

4:37 Speaker 1: and it was like full time and these are like long,

4:39 Speaker 1: you know, twelve hour shifts, right, so, and plus you

4:43 Speaker 1: had the writer's strike and like all the nonsense that

4:45 Speaker 1: came out of that, and we're still dealing with the

4:47 Speaker 1: fallout of that. And I've also been a pretty big

4:50 Speaker 1: proponent of artificial intelligence, especially in the creative space. I

4:53 Speaker 1: found that to be like the most interesting thing happening

4:56 Speaker 1: right now is that.

4:58 Speaker 4: And a lot of people get real mad at me

5:01 Speaker 4: for it.

5:01 Speaker 1: Actually, I got people that stocked me all the time

5:04 Speaker 1: because they think that I just like I hate artists

5:06 Speaker 1: or something, and I'm like, no, I just think that

5:07 Speaker 1: AI can help you get your vision out there.

5:10 Speaker 4: You know.

5:12 Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. People will learn this.

5:15 Speaker 5: By the way, Jarbo and I been doing this a

5:18 Speaker 5: long time. Our banter is a little different than other people's,

5:21 Speaker 5: so it's it's almost it's weird because it's almost like

5:24 Speaker 5: no time has passed. Yeah, right back three couple of

5:28 Speaker 5: years ago. But what when I was literally saying this,

5:31 Speaker 5: not even the other day. Is for smaller creators or

5:36 Speaker 5: or you know, filmmakers. AI is going to bring that

5:39 Speaker 5: Hollywood budget you know for graphics or whatever it may be,

5:44 Speaker 5: whether it's short bureau clips, you know this or that,

5:47 Speaker 5: it's going to allow smaller creators to do much larger things.

5:51 Speaker 1: Well, not only that, but look at it through the

5:52 Speaker 1: lens of the people that are UAP enthusiasts, right, Like,

5:56 Speaker 1: you know, someone's out there with like a really grainy image,

5:58 Speaker 1: you can throw it into an upscaler and get a

6:00 Speaker 1: better idea for what it could be, you know, because

6:03 Speaker 1: that's the one thing I always chuckle at, right, And

6:04 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong when I say, like, like, I

6:06 Speaker 1: have been a big fan of like cryptids my entire life.

6:09 Speaker 1: I live in Washington. Bigfoot is our our our like

6:13 Speaker 1: national our mascot. Here they have the Sasquatch con coming

6:18 Speaker 1: up here in the next couple of weeks. I want

6:20 Speaker 1: to try to find time to go to I grew

6:23 Speaker 1: up reading about the Locknest Monster. I grew up reading

6:25 Speaker 1: about all of these things you know, like all of

6:28 Speaker 1: that stuff, like the creepy some of the creepiest unsolved

6:30 Speaker 1: mysteries bits were like the ones with like UFOs and stuff,

6:34 Speaker 1: and like the uh you know, the the being taken

6:37 Speaker 1: and ever, the abductions and all that stuff, you know,

6:39 Speaker 1: like X files. I mean, I grew up watch I mean,

6:41 Speaker 1: you got I want to believe right there, you know,

6:43 Speaker 1: and and and being from the Pacific Northwest, we have

6:45 Speaker 1: a lot of that here, so it's always been something fascinating.

6:49 Speaker 1: But what I never understand is why in this age

6:52 Speaker 1: where everything is like ultra eight hey uhd, massive gigabits

6:57 Speaker 1: of data and everyone still shoots pictures for a damn tato.

7:01 Speaker 4: I just don't get that. I just don't understand that.

7:03 Speaker 6: I was literally gonna I was when you were forming

7:07 Speaker 6: that sentence.

7:08 Speaker 5: It's like, I was just hearing this the other day

7:11 Speaker 5: from I think it was Danny Jones podcast. It was like,

7:14 Speaker 5: why is the massive quality rise in cameras. You think

7:21 Speaker 5: there'd be like a massive rise in better UFO pictures,

7:24 Speaker 5: but like UFO quality pictures stayed here while the world advanced.

7:29 Speaker 5: And if that's not telling in a little bit of

7:32 Speaker 5: a sense, then if you're in this community, you got

7:35 Speaker 5: to know that ninety five percent of it's bullshit.

7:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean as much as I like to

7:40 Speaker 1: push back against because you know me, I like to

7:42 Speaker 1: be fact based as humanly possible. I prefer to be

7:45 Speaker 1: fact based a couple like I don't give into conspiracy theories,

7:49 Speaker 1: Like the only one I'll even entertain is that.

7:51 Speaker 4: Epstein is still alive. Oh, because I think he is.

7:55 Speaker 4: I do.

7:55 Speaker 1: I legitimately think he faked his death. I think they

7:57 Speaker 1: faked it to get him out of there.

7:58 Speaker 4: And there's that. But that's my own theory because you know.

8:02 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like, I look at

8:03 Speaker 1: like the I you have to I guess now from

8:06 Speaker 1: the outsider perspective, make the make the distinction between almost

8:12 Speaker 1: like what a UFO is and what a UAP is, right,

8:15 Speaker 1: because while they do kind of fall in line and

8:16 Speaker 1: they can be used interchangeably, I think, like, this is

8:20 Speaker 1: the joke I wanted to make earlier, is look at

8:21 Speaker 1: remember what happened when they started calling STDs STIs.

8:27 Speaker 4: Right?

8:27 Speaker 1: Interchangeably, they're like the same thing, interchangeably, they're kind of similar.

8:32 Speaker 1: But it's just like, ooh, there is that connotation with disease.

8:34 Speaker 1: We don't want to make that a big deal. So

8:36 Speaker 1: UFO to UAP is kind of the same thing. I'm

8:39 Speaker 1: using this very surreptitiously as a humorous piece of thing here.

8:43 Speaker 1: Do not take me seriously on this, But it's like

8:45 Speaker 1: the connotation of UFOs, of abductions, of the sightings, of

8:50 Speaker 1: the hoaxes. You might even say over the years and

8:53 Speaker 1: then and then they go ooh, but there's a negative

8:54 Speaker 1: connotation to that.

8:55 Speaker 4: So we need a new word that can kind of

8:58 Speaker 4: reset the games, so to speak.

9:00 Speaker 1: Ye, And that's kind of where because when I first

9:02 Speaker 1: started hearing people talking about like UAPs, I'm.

9:05 Speaker 4: Just like, what, like what they've always just been upon? Its?

9:11 Speaker 4: Like who changes that?

9:13 Speaker 5: It did change it because of the stigma and trying

9:16 Speaker 5: to move away from it.

9:17 Speaker 4: So that's the same thing with the STI.

9:20 Speaker 5: And the person is it's amazing.

9:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna get so many eight comments on them.

9:26 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am just kidding, Okay, I'm just using it

9:29 Speaker 1: as a as a you guys had to understand Mikey

9:31 Speaker 1: sense of humor starts at the bottom and works its way.

9:34 Speaker 4: Up His.

9:37 Speaker 5: His Hollywood After Dark logo.

9:39 Speaker 1: Is it is and it works. Oh, I have it

9:41 Speaker 1: on a hat. Now I need to I need to

9:43 Speaker 1: get that. I need to get that out again. But yeah,

9:45 Speaker 1: I had it put on a hat.

9:48 Speaker 4: You know.

9:48 Speaker 1: I had to talk to lids to get them to

9:50 Speaker 1: make it. They were like, is this something we can do?

9:52 Speaker 1: They literally had to go to like their corporate office

9:54 Speaker 1: to get approval to be cause They're like, this looks

9:57 Speaker 1: a little bit too familiar, and I'm like, yeah, but

9:58 Speaker 1: it's not.

9:59 Speaker 5: Yeah, but every dude working at Linz is fine.

10:04 Speaker 4: But it got approval. It got approval.

10:07 Speaker 5: That's so funny.

10:08 Speaker 1: So it's a yeah, my sense of humor is very

10:10 Speaker 1: very childish and very immature, but I juxtaposed that by

10:13 Speaker 1: being very analytical and very left brain.

10:16 Speaker 4: So it isn't.

10:18 Speaker 5: Going out on X right now. Apparently I'm trying to

10:21 Speaker 5: fix that.

10:22 Speaker 4: So they've been having some issues with X artemise.

10:25 Speaker 5: While we're talking, I might be looking around. I'm just

10:28 Speaker 5: trying to get that working. I've had nothing but issues

10:31 Speaker 5: the past week. And I don't want to sound too conspiratorial,

10:35 Speaker 5: but I had chasing sands on UFO whistleblower, and let's

10:38 Speaker 5: get into that. I really do. I know you have

10:40 Speaker 5: some thoughts on the UFO whistleblower kind of we'll call

10:44 Speaker 5: it a phenomenon in itself.

10:46 Speaker 6: But I had him on and it was pre recorded.

10:49 Speaker 6: I edited it, uploaded it to YouTube to premiere.

10:54 Speaker 5: It didn't premiere. The podcast host that I put it on,

11:00 Speaker 5: I use sprecker. It didn't premiere like and those are

11:04 Speaker 5: completely separate. Sprecker has nothing to do with YouTube. YouTube's

11:08 Speaker 5: on my Google. So on both sides of it, it

11:11 Speaker 5: didn't premiere, and I had to for the podcast.

11:15 Speaker 6: I had to open an it ticket to get it on.

11:17 Speaker 4: It was stupid.

11:18 Speaker 5: So again, don't want to sound conspiratorial, but it's only

11:22 Speaker 5: happened one other time before this, and it was with

11:24 Speaker 5: another UFO whistleblower, Michael Herrera. So I don't know, and

11:31 Speaker 5: you know, with from a from a general perspective, from

11:35 Speaker 5: your perspective, I want to talk about first UFO whistleblowers

11:40 Speaker 5: and what what have you start because you're you know,

11:45 Speaker 5: you're plugged in but not completely plugged in. So what

11:49 Speaker 5: is it that you're hearing about, you know, the whistleblowers

11:52 Speaker 5: of the UFO community and how far is it getting down?

11:56 Speaker 1: Well, I mean a lot of what I a lot

11:59 Speaker 1: of what I see is on Twitter and also on Reddit,

12:04 Speaker 1: because I do I am part I do lurk on

12:08 Speaker 1: the r ufo and a few other subreddits and whatnot.

12:12 Speaker 1: Because again, like I said, like I've always been fascinated

12:15 Speaker 1: by it, you know, and it's one of those things

12:18 Speaker 1: where it's like I want to believe, like my my

12:21 Speaker 1: my brain is, like my brain is like you want

12:25 Speaker 1: to believe, but you also want there to be like

12:27 Speaker 1: concrete evidence of this. And but then also what is

12:30 Speaker 1: that concrete evidence supporting? You know, like is it supporting? Uh,

12:36 Speaker 1: like you know we talk about unnamed aerial phenomenon, is

12:39 Speaker 1: it just that? Is it just like you know, secret

12:41 Speaker 1: technology we don't know about yet? Is it actual like aliens?

12:46 Speaker 1: You know, like because there's all these questions about like

12:49 Speaker 1: what they're going to be. And so I guess you

12:50 Speaker 1: could say in Noormyville, the last big you know, you

12:54 Speaker 1: had like what was it last year you had the

12:56 Speaker 1: congressional hearings?

12:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, and well oh November.

13:02 Speaker 6: Yeah, so so there was two last year?

13:05 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, because because the

13:09 Speaker 1: big those ones what I'm talking about, like and that

13:12 Speaker 1: was even then just like it was kind of like

13:14 Speaker 1: a like I probably knew more about it than like

13:17 Speaker 1: your average version because you know, we follow each other

13:19 Speaker 1: on Twitter, so I see what you post and then

13:22 Speaker 1: but it's mostly mostly I think for me, it's like

13:25 Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for like the big news announcement, like

13:28 Speaker 1: I don't care about the yeah, and this is a

13:29 Speaker 1: lot of people. We don't really care about the in

13:31 Speaker 1: particulars because it's it's like it's like people who make films,

13:34 Speaker 1: like you just want to know as a movie good

13:35 Speaker 1: or bad, like not why is it good or bad? Right,

13:37 Speaker 1: It's it's like you just want that, like, give me

13:39 Speaker 1: something I can jump onto that I can that I can,

13:43 Speaker 1: I can go, Okay, I can, I can get behind

13:45 Speaker 1: this right and so far it's not again and again,

13:49 Speaker 1: you have way more knowledge of this than me, so

13:53 Speaker 1: I can only look at this from like a normy perspective.

13:56 Speaker 1: But it's like when when the normies I think would

13:59 Speaker 1: be very willing. I think more people than not would

14:02 Speaker 1: be willing to go like, oh, aliens exiit, yeah, okay,

14:05 Speaker 1: cool about time you said something. I don't know if

14:06 Speaker 1: we can swear it here or not, so keep I'll

14:08 Speaker 1: keep it minor, but it's like, you know, because I

14:10 Speaker 1: think that's how.

14:11 Speaker 4: A lot of people are.

14:11 Speaker 1: They're just kind of like, yeah, we've been dealing with

14:13 Speaker 1: this in our pop culture and in the grand zeitgeist

14:16 Speaker 1: of what America is, and just you know, as technologies expanded, right,

14:20 Speaker 1: like like okay, well here's I know, I'm kind of

14:23 Speaker 1: all over, but kind of here's the thing. Right, It's

14:24 Speaker 1: like you figure, we had a big uproar or i

14:29 Speaker 1: uptick in visitations or sightings or whatever in nineteen forties,

14:33 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, right, roswell, and you had something in the

14:35 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties and everything else, and then it kind of

14:38 Speaker 1: it feels it kind of stopped. Now one might go, okay, well,

14:42 Speaker 1: what about like you know, the government, right, the government's

14:44 Speaker 1: keeping a kaibash on all this stuff. But then I

14:47 Speaker 1: also kind of look at it through the lens of

14:49 Speaker 1: like what about when you had people sailing the high seas,

14:52 Speaker 1: right when that was our primary form of transportation and trade.

14:56 Speaker 1: You would hear stories mermaids cracking, right, all of these

15:00 Speaker 1: sea creatures that were there.

15:02 Speaker 5: I'm just documented an orb that a quote led him

15:07 Speaker 5: to the New World.

15:08 Speaker 1: See that's interesting. Yeah, but like where the hell has

15:11 Speaker 1: that orb been for anything else? You know, Like like

15:14 Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. It's like, look at Atlantis

15:17 Speaker 1: and I do the theory of Atlantis is something that

15:19 Speaker 1: I truly, truly do like because it sounds so cool

15:23 Speaker 1: and it's but again, it's that idea there. It's like

15:25 Speaker 1: what if people just had this idea of things? And

15:28 Speaker 1: as as we got more and more and more and

15:30 Speaker 1: more and more technologically advanced and more and more and

15:32 Speaker 1: more and more and more the world opened up, we

15:35 Speaker 1: started to realize that like these things kind of slowed

15:37 Speaker 1: down because you know, there was like a lot of

15:42 Speaker 1: it was either being hidden or it just simply like

15:45 Speaker 1: we said, ninety five percent of it's kind of BS.

15:47 Speaker 4: Right. So I'm and I'm just talking about this from.

15:49 Speaker 1: The outsider perspective, Okay, Okay, Like That's what I'm trying

15:53 Speaker 1: to say is like my the way my brain works

15:54 Speaker 1: is like I like to go, what is what is

15:59 Speaker 1: what is logical?

16:00 Speaker 4: What could happen? Why could it happens? And then and then.

16:05 Speaker 1: From there be able to determine like you know, like

16:10 Speaker 1: I guess you could say the Aukhams. Yeah, like the

16:13 Speaker 1: simplest explanation yeah, because it's like, I think.

16:15 Speaker 5: A lot of what is explanation can be that we're

16:20 Speaker 5: being fucking visited.

16:22 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, right, but it's like, but it's.

16:24 Speaker 1: Like, a dude, there's almost eight there's over eight and

16:27 Speaker 1: a half billion people on this planet. We have satellites everywhere.

16:31 Speaker 4: I can get.

16:32 Speaker 1: Almost a high definition view of my house right now

16:35 Speaker 1: if I try hard enough.

16:36 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

16:37 Speaker 1: It's like technology has allowed us to look into places

16:41 Speaker 1: we've never been able to look before in better and

16:45 Speaker 1: more advanced ways. So while I do not pooh pooh

16:49 Speaker 1: the idea of us being visited, I think if if

16:51 Speaker 1: there was, in fact, and I think there are, again,

16:55 Speaker 1: you cannot look at the vastness of the universe as

16:58 Speaker 1: we see it and go, wait, there's no thing that

17:00 Speaker 1: we can't be the only ones. Like evolution would not

17:03 Speaker 1: work that way, right, just it wouldn't work that way,

17:05 Speaker 1: single cell amba to dipshits on the internet.

17:09 Speaker 5: It's it'suclear weapons.

17:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, with exactly and a gigantic fear of everything around us,

17:16 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, So I do feel that there's

17:19 Speaker 1: a high probability that we have been visited. I I

17:23 Speaker 1: do feel that there are elements of it. But I

17:25 Speaker 1: also would wonder if the if somebody can get here,

17:29 Speaker 1: if if a you know, if if a species can

17:32 Speaker 1: can create intercalacting travel and get to us. Wouldn't you

17:37 Speaker 1: think that, if anything, they would be watching from a

17:39 Speaker 1: distance for a long period of time to figure out

17:41 Speaker 1: if we're idiots or not. Absolutely, because like I mean so,

17:44 Speaker 1: you know, but I heard another theory a while back

17:46 Speaker 1: that was, like, what if all what if all the

17:50 Speaker 1: crash landings that we've had reported, we're just alien billionaires

17:54 Speaker 1: They got the heel off their planet and just crash here.

17:57 Speaker 1: You know what if they were all Elon must looking

18:00 Speaker 1: for Mars.

18:01 Speaker 5: Right right right, and that's the inevitably they that's their devise.

18:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, what if Elon is an alien? That would make

18:10 Speaker 1: a lot of sense.

18:10 Speaker 5: You said it on Rogan the other day.

18:13 Speaker 4: He probably did, And I swear the.

18:15 Speaker 5: Way he said it was almost like he slid it

18:18 Speaker 5: in right at the end, and it's like I'm saying it,

18:22 Speaker 5: you know, you think I'm joking, you know, like because

18:26 Speaker 5: he's like, you know, he tells Rogan like, you know,

18:30 Speaker 5: I have I'm responsible for ninety percent of rocketry on Earth,

18:35 Speaker 5: and I have a top secret clearance. There's you know,

18:38 Speaker 5: he's saying there, if aliens exist, they're very subtle, and

18:42 Speaker 5: he has no evidence of them, and you know, he

18:44 Speaker 5: has all these things and you know, YadA YadA, and

18:47 Speaker 5: then he kind of just says to Rogan, He's like,

18:50 Speaker 5: or I'm protecting them because I'm an alien and i

18:53 Speaker 5: just want to get home.

18:56 Speaker 1: So it's yeah, I mean, but part of it's funny,

18:59 Speaker 1: but at the same time, like it's almost kind of

19:02 Speaker 1: like groaning eye roll, like if you're an alien, just

19:04 Speaker 1: then be honest, because that's all people want.

19:07 Speaker 6: Well, Zuckerberg looked like an alien, and then.

19:09 Speaker 1: He looked like data from Star trek Man Let's he

19:12 Speaker 1: was like an android.

19:14 Speaker 5: And then someone in his lineup was like, dude. They

19:18 Speaker 5: pulled him aside and they were like, hey, I bro,

19:21 Speaker 5: look at this picture of you on the beach.

19:24 Speaker 6: You look like a fucking alien. You need to grow

19:27 Speaker 6: your hair.

19:27 Speaker 5: Out, wear a gold chain and a T shirt that's

19:31 Speaker 5: a little bit too big, do some jiu jitsu, and

19:33 Speaker 5: blend the fucking.

19:35 Speaker 1: He definitely, yeah, he definitely like went from android to

19:38 Speaker 1: like surfer beach bomb kind of guy, and you know what,

19:42 Speaker 1: good for him, right, he looks normal now, Like you

19:45 Speaker 1: look at him now and you're like, I feel like

19:47 Speaker 1: I could have a conversation with this guy, not ask him, like,

19:50 Speaker 1: you know, very scientific questions and wait for the beep

19:53 Speaker 1: boop response.

19:54 Speaker 6: It's that Andy's not censoring your data anymore.

19:57 Speaker 1: Well, they always all that shit fair. They make money

20:02 Speaker 1: off your data. So that's how they make their money.

20:05 Speaker 1: That's how Elon makes his money off Twitter. That is

20:07 Speaker 1: how Mark makes his money on Facebook. They all sell

20:11 Speaker 1: your data. Uh. And it's like that's it if you

20:14 Speaker 1: If something is free, you're the product.

20:16 Speaker 5: Yeah, and TikTok off Dan I.

20:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, well they got another. They got another.

20:23 Speaker 1: Well, TikTok had seventy five days, which they're now coming

20:26 Speaker 1: up on like the last like twenty. I don't know

20:29 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with TikTok, but the people seem

20:32 Speaker 1: to be afraid of TikTok.

20:33 Speaker 5: Yeah. When it went down, when it really went down

20:36 Speaker 5: and I couldn't get it on the app store anymore,

20:38 Speaker 5: I was like, oh Jesus, it gets real.

20:41 Speaker 4: See I never deleted it.

20:43 Speaker 6: Yes, the people who didn't delete it didn't have the issue.

20:45 Speaker 5: So yeah, people like me who didn't have it on

20:48 Speaker 5: their phone and just used it on.

20:50 Speaker 6: The internet browser.

20:51 Speaker 5: Yeah, because I honestly, I don't want to sound like

20:55 Speaker 5: a rogan, but I did actually go through the terms

20:59 Speaker 5: and conditions and that was alarmed. But I've also was

21:02 Speaker 5: alarmed at twitters and facebooks. So you're right, they all

21:06 Speaker 5: do it.

21:07 Speaker 1: And well, the simplest way to look at it, and

21:10 Speaker 1: I just said this is if it's a free product,

21:12 Speaker 1: you're it right, Like you're the product that they're gaining

21:16 Speaker 1: their info off of you. I mean open ai does this,

21:20 Speaker 1: you know, with the AI stuff, everyone does it.

21:23 Speaker 4: It sucks.

21:23 Speaker 1: Nobody wants their data to be used like that, but

21:25 Speaker 1: at the same time, it is just the cost of

21:27 Speaker 1: doing business. I mean, like, you know, you can always

21:29 Speaker 1: find ways to kind of, I guess shield yourself from it.

21:32 Speaker 1: Tinfoil it maybe a little bit, you know, be wary

21:35 Speaker 1: of what you post. At the end of the day,

21:38 Speaker 1: what you post is what you post, and that's that's

21:40 Speaker 1: what people need to be more more careful of. It's

21:43 Speaker 1: like I don't post pictures of my kids publicly, you.

21:45 Speaker 5: Know, or or you know, drop a location tag with

21:53 Speaker 5: a picture of your kids and like we're gonna be

21:57 Speaker 5: here for like four hours today, guys like giving details.

22:02 Speaker 1: It's I mean, the thing is, people are smart and

22:04 Speaker 1: they know how to utilize the Internet, and they know

22:06 Speaker 1: how to utilize if they want something, there's in many

22:09 Speaker 1: ways not hard to find. I one of my friend's

22:10 Speaker 1: dad actually worked with the FBI on on that kind

22:15 Speaker 1: of stuff, like way back in the day with MySpace,

22:17 Speaker 1: you know, and he was like, you can easily go

22:19 Speaker 1: on to some of these kids pages and find out

22:21 Speaker 1: exactly where they live off of like three posts. Yeah,

22:24 Speaker 1: you know, And it's it's it's kind of horrifying that

22:28 Speaker 1: that scares me more than anything else, to be fair, and.

22:31 Speaker 5: It scares me. And and so Eric, Eric put this up,

22:35 Speaker 5: and I wanted to make sure we get to it

22:37 Speaker 5: because it's actually part of the whistleblower thing right now.

22:41 Speaker 5: Eric spoke at the Doctor Greer event that that is

22:46 Speaker 5: being referenced in this question.

22:48 Speaker 6: So Eric was one of the whistleblowers who gave testimony

22:55 Speaker 6: the National Press Club event. That is so Jake Barber is.

23:03 Speaker 5: The latest UFO whistleblower, and he did the News Nation

23:08 Speaker 5: interview with Ross Coltart. I don't know if you saw it,

23:12 Speaker 5: but he was a balder guy very like beaming eyes,

23:17 Speaker 5: and he alleges that he was part of the crash

23:19 Speaker 5: retrieval teams and also provided video of crash retrieval of

23:24 Speaker 5: like it was a green military foot footage or like

23:28 Speaker 5: milt you know that militant night vision style. Yeah, so

23:31 Speaker 5: it was that footage and it was actually clear. I'll

23:33 Speaker 5: give him that. It was probably the clearest video I've seen,

23:37 Speaker 5: but I'll bring it up so you can see it.

23:40 Speaker 5: But the problem is is it's he's flying the helicopter

23:46 Speaker 5: and it just looks like a rope with like an

23:49 Speaker 5: egg shape thing tied up. You know, you don't know

23:54 Speaker 5: it's a UFO, Like, yeah, it's not it again, it's

23:59 Speaker 5: that same situation. It's like, what do you mean, Like,

24:03 Speaker 5: no one fucking took a picture of this thing. When

24:06 Speaker 5: you picked this thing up, you weren't, Like what is that?

24:10 Speaker 5: It has no flight control services that has know this

24:13 Speaker 5: and has know that you weren't, you know, like you know,

24:17 Speaker 5: snap a picture of your phone, Like what the fuck

24:19 Speaker 5: is this thing? Because you know it's a big giant

24:23 Speaker 5: egg is what you reported?

24:24 Speaker 4: YEA.

24:25 Speaker 6: Jake Barber was part. I don't want to go too.

24:29 Speaker 5: Deep into it because you don't know. You don't need

24:31 Speaker 5: to know, like the nitty gritty details. But this whistleblower

24:35 Speaker 5: was essentially working. And do you know what red teaming is?

24:40 Speaker 4: The term sounds familiar, but fill me out anyway.

24:44 Speaker 6: Say I'm company A, right, let's say I'm Lockheed Martin.

24:48 Speaker 4: Okay, I call a.

24:51 Speaker 5: Private company, company B, right, third party contract or whatever,

24:56 Speaker 5: And I say, I want you to red team us.

24:59 Speaker 5: So I want you to try to break our infrastructure.

25:01 Speaker 5: I want you to try to break in physically. Maybe

25:04 Speaker 5: I want.

25:04 Speaker 6: You to try to to I want you to be.

25:06 Speaker 5: The enemy essentially and try to get into our systems, right,

25:12 Speaker 5: whether that be like like physically walking into the building

25:15 Speaker 5: and showing the security vulnerabilities. Maybe you know, you have

25:19 Speaker 5: someone walk into the building and if they can get

25:22 Speaker 5: let them get as far as they can. Sometimes that

25:25 Speaker 5: may be the CEO's office. And he walks into the

25:27 Speaker 5: CEO's office and he says, now you're dead. I just

25:30 Speaker 5: like I just walked through this building and no one

25:33 Speaker 5: stopped me, and I killed you.

25:36 Speaker 4: I just read teamed you, right, Okay.

25:38 Speaker 5: So Barber went to this National Press Club with the

25:43 Speaker 5: goal of red teaming the disclosure project and the disclosure effort,

25:51 Speaker 5: doctor Greer's specific effort.

25:54 Speaker 6: So, I mean, but why exactly.

25:59 Speaker 5: So we're deducing that the government or whoever's pulling up

26:05 Speaker 5: the strings, whoever's doing that. At the end of the day,

26:09 Speaker 5: they're the ones sending these people out right, They're the

26:13 Speaker 5: ones who because Barbara was essentially there too, you know,

26:18 Speaker 5: grab names and then wrote the book at them right

26:22 Speaker 5: for like prosecute them, like get them prosecuted, arrested, whatever.

26:26 Speaker 5: And Eric was one of the people spoke, so you know,

26:29 Speaker 5: that's like that, that's concerning. But now, but Jake in

26:33 Speaker 5: that process, Jake Barber like came to and was like,

26:36 Speaker 5: what about you know, this is this allegedly this is

26:42 Speaker 5: now he is saying like I saw the flaws and everything,

26:45 Speaker 5: and now I'm on the good side.

26:48 Speaker 4: So okay. So so he was like, a, I.

26:51 Speaker 5: Mean, he flew the helicopters that yeah, And it wasn't

26:57 Speaker 5: always UFOs, but he was part of a access black

27:01 Speaker 5: program that was on call. So they would call and

27:06 Speaker 5: be like there's a pick up tonight, you know, pick

27:09 Speaker 5: up at this time, pick up at this location, you know,

27:12 Speaker 5: and then that team would get ready, they'd deploy, they'd

27:15 Speaker 5: retrieve whatever was, they need to retrieve, bring it to

27:17 Speaker 5: where they need to bring it. So he was just

27:19 Speaker 5: part of the flight crew. So okay, yeah, it's it's

27:25 Speaker 5: a wild story, dude. So now we got like whistleblower

27:28 Speaker 5: on whistleblower violence, right, So, I mean it's getting really crazy.

27:34 Speaker 5: And you know the reason I ask you about whistleblowers

27:37 Speaker 5: is this is probably the most mainstream stuff that the

27:40 Speaker 5: UFO community's got going aside yeah hearings.

27:44 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I try to keep an eye

27:47 Speaker 1: out on what's going on. I haven't heard anything of this.

27:49 Speaker 4: Now.

27:49 Speaker 1: You got to understand though, right now, when we talk

27:51 Speaker 1: about the mainstream news, a lot of it is dominated

27:54 Speaker 1: by the president, you know, and Elon and and that

27:59 Speaker 1: whole thing. So so that is going to be you know,

28:02 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a couple of weeks ago, right,

28:05 Speaker 1: you had a Rep. Luna and uh comer, right, and

28:08 Speaker 1: they came on out and there, you know, there's that

28:10 Speaker 1: big thing you were all excited for. And I told you,

28:12 Speaker 1: my blacking, nothing's gonna happen.

28:14 Speaker 5: I was so excited.

28:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was just in it.

28:17 Speaker 5: I was told by.

28:18 Speaker 6: Government officials that it was going to be worth watching.

28:25 Speaker 5: By members of Congress. Yeah, so that's why I was excited,

28:29 Speaker 5: and you were you just you were writing.

28:31 Speaker 1: Well the reason why, Look, understand, it's like all of this,

28:35 Speaker 1: every everything they do like that is posturing to some extent. Okay,

28:39 Speaker 1: so it's like like looking at it through the most

28:41 Speaker 1: logistical lens possible.

28:43 Speaker 4: What would be the purpose of this? Okay?

28:44 Speaker 1: If you're going to come out there and you're going

28:46 Speaker 1: to be like, we want disclosure on on UAPs, Okay, cool, great,

28:50 Speaker 1: I'm there with you. We want disclosure on RFK, uh

28:54 Speaker 1: JFK and Epstein and like, all right, great man, fucking

28:57 Speaker 1: bring out you know, Elvis all, We're at it, MLK,

29:00 Speaker 1: all that shit, right, do everything, Just drop it all

29:03 Speaker 1: because we're not stupid people in this country, you know,

29:06 Speaker 1: in this world, they ain't fucking dumb, right, they can

29:08 Speaker 1: figure it out.

29:08 Speaker 4: We already generally know most of it. Anyway. I mean,

29:11 Speaker 4: look at the Epstein stuff. It was a nothing burger.

29:13 Speaker 4: You know.

29:13 Speaker 1: They touted out a few right wing influencers. The binder

29:18 Speaker 1: is one of those guys is a guy named Mike

29:20 Speaker 1: Cernovich who for like the longest time was pushing new

29:22 Speaker 1: tropics on Twitter, and we all just kind of figured

29:25 Speaker 1: it was just him like drying his own com and

29:27 Speaker 1: and it just he's he's insane, you know. And that

29:30 Speaker 1: was a whole thing from like gamer Gait and way

29:32 Speaker 1: back in the day with that whole stuff, and and

29:35 Speaker 1: so like all the Epstein stuff was like nonsense, you know.

29:38 Speaker 1: And I had a passenger recently that was like refuse

29:42 Speaker 1: to believe that Trump was friends with Epstein because he

29:45 Speaker 1: simply said he wasn't friends. And I'm like, all the

29:47 Speaker 1: documentation suggests otherwise, but okay, I'm not going to fight.

29:50 Speaker 4: You on it.

29:51 Speaker 1: And so when she came out out she's talking about that,

29:53 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is she trying to get? Because I know,

29:56 Speaker 1: I know Luna Is as much as I don't trust her,

29:59 Speaker 1: I know she's been big in the UAP stuff and

30:02 Speaker 1: she's been pushing for that, which is good. But then

30:04 Speaker 1: you got her with Comer and Comer spent years trying

30:08 Speaker 1: to like nail down Joe Biden and like couldn't do anything.

30:11 Speaker 4: He's inept. So what are they trying to do. They're

30:14 Speaker 4: not bringing their best, you know what I mean.

30:16 Speaker 1: Like if you want look, if you want to get somebody,

30:18 Speaker 1: I mean, christ I don't know how you feel. Like

30:19 Speaker 1: I would say someone like Dan Crenshaw, who I don't

30:21 Speaker 1: even like, but like, the dude's got military experience. He

30:25 Speaker 1: understands the system. He knows what would be redacted, he

30:28 Speaker 1: knows what would be non disclosed. He would know the

30:31 Speaker 1: general framework of how this stuff operates to be able

30:34 Speaker 1: to at least get something of value out of it. Right,

30:38 Speaker 1: And we're completely on the opposite side politically, okay.

30:41 Speaker 5: And very for anyone who doesn't know, Like for you

30:46 Speaker 5: to say that is that's even telling itself.

30:50 Speaker 1: I'm super liberal, is the thing is, if you guys

30:52 Speaker 1: don't already know.

30:54 Speaker 4: But I'm not.

30:55 Speaker 1: But again, I don't care where a good idea comes from,

30:57 Speaker 1: provided a good idea emerges, and that's how I view everything.

31:02 Speaker 1: But no, I would look at someone with military experience

31:06 Speaker 1: to go to on a situation like that, who might

31:09 Speaker 1: have a better understanding of what to look at people

31:13 Speaker 1: in Congress, you know, like, like I just I'll tell

31:16 Speaker 1: you this, man. This is gonna sound so dumb, but

31:17 Speaker 1: it's like, remember back in early twenty sixteen, it was

31:22 Speaker 1: around January twenty sixteen, Hillary was running against Trump, and

31:25 Speaker 1: there was this whole big thing about how like John

31:29 Speaker 1: Podesta was her chief of staff at the time, or

31:32 Speaker 1: I think he'd like the campaign.

31:33 Speaker 4: He was all, They're all.

31:34 Speaker 1: Like, if she gets in, she's going to disclose everything

31:37 Speaker 1: about Area fifty one.

31:38 Speaker 5: I have I have a really good story, so I

31:40 Speaker 5: have something to come back and like add into this

31:44 Speaker 5: and how the modern day UFO like modern modern I'm

31:48 Speaker 5: talking post twenty seventeen article, and this is where you

31:53 Speaker 5: are going to lead into so so hit it?

31:59 Speaker 2: Did you?

31:59 Speaker 5: Can you hear?

32:00 Speaker 4: Oh?

32:00 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're Oh. I thought you were like setting

32:02 Speaker 1: up a promo or something. No no, no, oh, okay,

32:05 Speaker 1: my bad, Sorry guy, Sorry, I just I missed. I

32:07 Speaker 1: miss I misread that you're like setting up an ad

32:12 Speaker 1: break all right, anyway, No, So, so basically it was

32:17 Speaker 1: like early twenty seventeen or twenty sixteen, and they're talking

32:19 Speaker 1: about how they just want to declassify like stuff on

32:22 Speaker 1: Area fifty one, and that would be great because like

32:25 Speaker 1: I was writing papers about Area fifty one when I

32:28 Speaker 1: was in high school. You know, when I moved from Portland, Oregon,

32:31 Speaker 1: down to San Diego, California, I was looking up like

32:34 Speaker 1: how far it would take me?

32:35 Speaker 4: How long by car?

32:36 Speaker 1: About ten hours to get from Lakeside, which is where

32:38 Speaker 1: I used to live out to Rachel, Nevada. I was

32:41 Speaker 1: looking up like how to get to Tikabou Peak before

32:43 Speaker 1: the Air Force took over the fucking mountain. Bastards. You

32:50 Speaker 1: frupt with the three ound that off the top of

32:54 Speaker 1: the key, and you'd do it and could see.

33:03 Speaker 4: That was a lot that like.

33:12 Speaker 5: Can you hear me?

33:13 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're cutting in and you kind of sound like

33:15 Speaker 6: a robot all.

33:16 Speaker 5: Of a sudden end. Uh.

33:20 Speaker 4: You know, extreme yard industry.

33:22 Speaker 5: Stream yards always acted up.

33:26 Speaker 4: Uh, but he just uh.

33:28 Speaker 1: I enjoyed like that. I wanted to see it. I

33:30 Speaker 1: still want to see it. The last time I was

33:32 Speaker 1: in Vegas, I rented a car with the explicit intent

33:34 Speaker 1: of driving the four hours from Vegas out there to

33:38 Speaker 1: go to the to go to the entryway.

33:40 Speaker 6: It's funny though, because they like they they bought that.

33:43 Speaker 5: They they they expanded the perimeter and it was almost

33:49 Speaker 5: like they did it specifically to capture any vantage points.

33:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it felt like.

33:57 Speaker 1: There's even a family around that that was fighting back

34:01 Speaker 1: because the government was trying to argue manifest destiny over

34:04 Speaker 1: their property and and basically find a way to kick

34:08 Speaker 1: him out and everything else. And I'm like, fine, I

34:11 Speaker 1: get it, But at the same time, it's like, you guys,

34:13 Speaker 1: don't make it look any better on yourself.

34:18 Speaker 5: In the Arrow Summary report stated victims of direct energy

34:22 Speaker 5: weapons were reported on every continent except Antarctica. And he's saying,

34:28 Speaker 5: really because his his his whistleblower testimony is specific to

34:34 Speaker 5: Antarctica specific, and he's saying that. What Eric says is

34:40 Speaker 5: that there's a neutrino device down there that can be

34:44 Speaker 5: used not just as well as it's intended, but it's

34:49 Speaker 5: also to be used as a weapon and has been

34:53 Speaker 5: and caused.

34:56 Speaker 6: A certain natural disaster.

34:58 Speaker 5: I can't remember exactly which one right now, so I'm

35:01 Speaker 5: not gonna like guess, but so what what he essentially

35:05 Speaker 5: what he's saying is ARROW, the Arrow's report can.

35:08 Speaker 6: Be totally discounted.

35:11 Speaker 5: And yeah, I know, because that's the stuff you know about.

35:15 Speaker 5: That's the stuff you you see, most likely is the

35:18 Speaker 5: stuff that comes out from the Congressional hearings and these

35:21 Speaker 5: offices like ARROW, the All Domain Resolution Office and all

35:25 Speaker 5: the remain Anomaly Resolution Office.

35:27 Speaker 1: Even that kind of stuff though doesn't ever really seem

35:30 Speaker 1: to make it into like a lot of the again,

35:33 Speaker 1: like a lot of the normy and a lot of

35:34 Speaker 1: the normy spaces, right, you know, Like so like I

35:37 Speaker 1: think the last thing, like legitimately the last thing was

35:40 Speaker 1: I think that did David Garush testimony.

35:42 Speaker 4: I think was the the last.

35:43 Speaker 1: Stuff that I remember hearing about like in some form

35:47 Speaker 1: of mainstream YEP.

35:49 Speaker 5: And and that that would make sense because that was

35:52 Speaker 5: you know, obviously that story is different and he you know,

35:56 Speaker 5: he was talking about biologics and you know, his his

36:01 Speaker 5: rank and what he did, you know with the n

36:04 Speaker 5: ROH and all this stuff. And that's where the Ken

36:07 Speaker 5: clippings clipping side thing comes in. Is Ken Ken from

36:11 Speaker 5: the Intercept, and the intercept is famous for like protecting whistleblowers.

36:18 Speaker 5: So but do you see the.

36:19 Speaker 1: Irony and that well, yeah, because I remember I did

36:22 Speaker 1: listen to Ken on a on a Twitter space. Uh

36:25 Speaker 1: there was a big somehow it got recommended to me

36:27 Speaker 1: and I was out working and I was like, all right,

36:29 Speaker 1: I'll listen, and it was actually really fascinating the whole thing,

36:33 Speaker 1: you know, And I remember him pointing out that David

36:36 Speaker 1: had he'd been busted for was it d u.

36:38 Speaker 5: Y No, no, no, no, no, he he had to

36:41 Speaker 5: go to like rehab maybe a do you okay, you know.

36:44 Speaker 1: Something alcohol related. It was something I believe alcohol related,

36:47 Speaker 1: but he.

36:48 Speaker 5: Was he was suffered like many veterans who have who

36:53 Speaker 5: were deployed during war time. He was and he had

36:57 Speaker 5: his best one of his best friends in the military

37:00 Speaker 5: had committed suicide, like committed suicide or was killed in

37:06 Speaker 5: action on deployment. And when David came back, he struggled

37:10 Speaker 5: with alcoholism and then had to check himself into rehab.

37:13 Speaker 5: But he did it voluntarily, and during that time he

37:16 Speaker 5: kept his security clearance. And you know with security clearances,

37:23 Speaker 5: you know, if you're red flag, they don't they don't,

37:25 Speaker 5: they don't hesitate to take that away. Yeah, so this guy,

37:31 Speaker 5: you know, not only is he struggling struggling with with

37:35 Speaker 5: his PTSD and you know, his his services country. I

37:39 Speaker 5: just don't think weaponizing that to any form is can

37:44 Speaker 5: be considered a way to like saying I'm an alcoholic

37:48 Speaker 5: because you know me, Matt, I'm very open about this.

37:53 Speaker 6: I haven't had a drink in five years.

37:56 Speaker 5: That's like saying, you know, everything.

37:59 Speaker 6: I say is bill because I was an alcoholic five

38:01 Speaker 6: years ago.

38:03 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, no, I get what you mean there, And

38:04 Speaker 1: I think it's I think the idea there is that

38:07 Speaker 1: like perhaps this is just like the way I would

38:10 Speaker 1: approach it if I was in if I was in

38:12 Speaker 1: Glenn's Ken's position is like you kind of want to

38:16 Speaker 1: have the most crystal clear, you know, evidence, right, like

38:22 Speaker 1: nothing that can be potentially skewed any particular way. But

38:26 Speaker 1: I don't think we live in that clean of a world,

38:27 Speaker 1: to be fair. I don't think you can ever have

38:30 Speaker 1: anything without some ambiguity to it in any capacity.

38:34 Speaker 5: And you know what, maybe but maybe it's it is

38:39 Speaker 5: good to have all the information, and maybe it is

38:42 Speaker 5: you know, for someone to be able to look at

38:44 Speaker 5: all the information and know that, you know, maybe knowing

38:48 Speaker 5: that he did struggle does change your perspective on him.

38:52 Speaker 5: And maybe I don't know.

38:54 Speaker 1: Well what I mean, like I guess because I don't

38:56 Speaker 1: know enough about it in detail to be able.

38:59 Speaker 5: To Ken was paid by me.

39:04 Speaker 4: Oh, the USA, the USA, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

39:07 Speaker 5: I'm like, wait, what the hell is going on? What

39:11 Speaker 5: is going on?

39:12 Speaker 4: It was?

39:13 Speaker 1: I mean, like I told you because I looked it

39:14 Speaker 1: up and it was largely to combat misinformation. But it's

39:18 Speaker 1: also possible while you are It's almost like, what was

39:23 Speaker 1: that Nietzsche quote about staring into the abyss, right, be

39:27 Speaker 1: careful the abyss doesn't stare back, and that could And

39:30 Speaker 1: I think that is really just a nice way of

39:32 Speaker 1: talking about cognitive dissonance or maybe a little bit of

39:35 Speaker 1: confirmation by us. So what I mean by that is,

39:38 Speaker 1: you know, you spend so much time battling misinformation and

39:42 Speaker 1: disinformation in the modern age, which is rampant, uh, you know,

39:46 Speaker 1: and then you see something that maybe doesn't check out

39:48 Speaker 1: all the way or it doesn't entirely pass the sniff test,

39:51 Speaker 1: and so your brain is already wired at that point

39:54 Speaker 1: to start poking holes in every narrative you see. And

39:59 Speaker 1: so as a result of that, you kind of you

40:01 Speaker 1: can't see the forest through the trees. Now I'm not

40:03 Speaker 1: trying to defend him. I have no idea. I'm just

40:05 Speaker 1: merely pointing out that it can happen when you start

40:10 Speaker 1: looking for stuff and you know it's there and it's

40:13 Speaker 1: easy to find. It does kind of pervert your worldview

40:17 Speaker 1: a little bit.

40:18 Speaker 4: You know.

40:18 Speaker 1: It's like, I have trouble, and I'll admit this, I

40:22 Speaker 1: have trouble talking to someone about let's say, movies, if

40:26 Speaker 1: they start criticizing something that is like not you know

40:30 Speaker 1: that that is nuanced and maybe I know something they

40:34 Speaker 1: don't or I'm not looking at their perspective. It's hard

40:36 Speaker 1: for me at times to give them the benefit of

40:38 Speaker 1: the doubt, right right, Like, because I've because I've dealt

40:42 Speaker 1: with so many of those kind of people over the years,

40:44 Speaker 1: right of just like blatantly lying and pushing out false

40:47 Speaker 1: info that it's like.

40:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, your guard is up.

40:50 Speaker 1: You kind of go in you know, you're like Russell

40:52 Speaker 1: Crowe fighting around the world sort of thing.

40:55 Speaker 4: You just get in there and you're like everybody like

40:58 Speaker 4: it could be like that. Now.

40:59 Speaker 1: It's not a good place to live. It's not a

41:01 Speaker 1: good mental space to be in. But I don't know,

41:03 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's it's very difficult in

41:05 Speaker 1: the world we live in to parse out everything because

41:10 Speaker 1: it's just it's NonStop, right, Like, well, question, okay, so

41:15 Speaker 1: what about those like Peruvian little mummy alien bodies?

41:20 Speaker 4: Right?

41:20 Speaker 6: I think this is a good case study in how

41:24 Speaker 6: far the muddy.

41:25 Speaker 5: Water can can go. Yeah, right, And so the Peruvian mummies.

41:32 Speaker 5: I don't think we'll ever really I don't think we'll

41:34 Speaker 5: ever really know anymore.

41:36 Speaker 1: Like because they were they were confirmed, and then they

41:39 Speaker 1: were invalidated, and then they were confirmed and then they're

41:42 Speaker 1: invalidated again.

41:43 Speaker 5: And and you know, one of the huge mistakes that

41:46 Speaker 5: was made with the mummies was allowing the a man

41:52 Speaker 5: named Heimi Mussan to champion the effort because Heimie although

41:58 Speaker 5: he is x really popular in South America and like

42:03 Speaker 5: with so like you could almost consider him like the

42:08 Speaker 5: George Knapp, like the b version of George Knapp of

42:14 Speaker 5: the South America. George Knapp broke the like Bob Blazar story,

42:19 Speaker 5: but George Nap was also like he was an any

42:24 Speaker 5: Award or whatever the journalism award is Tony's. I don't

42:27 Speaker 5: I forget, maybe I don't know, but George was. He's

42:32 Speaker 5: an award winning investigative journalist who then took on the

42:36 Speaker 5: Bob Blazar story. So it wasn't he won the awards

42:39 Speaker 5: after it was before from his work investigating the mob

42:44 Speaker 5: and all that stuff in Las Vegas. So and then

42:47 Speaker 5: it just so happens that John Lear comes into the

42:50 Speaker 5: off to the student the station. John Lear, you know,

42:53 Speaker 5: his dad Lear Jents. He was the heir to the

42:57 Speaker 5: Lear family. He had fleu government, you know, flew from

43:02 Speaker 5: the government, you know, YadA YadA, but also had.

43:05 Speaker 6: A propensity for storytelling. And you know that's how. So

43:11 Speaker 6: what I was going to bring up earlier is.

43:15 Speaker 5: The Times article and how I think the modern day

43:19 Speaker 5: UFO story is a d o D. It's a dobser

43:24 Speaker 5: So the d D pre Publication Office, it's a dobbs

43:28 Speaker 5: are approved controlled controlled disclosure.

43:33 Speaker 6: You see all these whistleblowers.

43:34 Speaker 5: Coming out, they all have gone through d o D prepublication.

43:40 Speaker 5: So the d o D has approved or at least

43:43 Speaker 5: considered what they're talking about as not a threat to

43:47 Speaker 5: national security. They're not necessarily endorsing it either, you know,

43:51 Speaker 5: but I mean they're saying what they can and can't say.

43:56 Speaker 5: So this whole thing, it feels like some sort of

43:59 Speaker 5: drip feed, right, like getting us ready for something.

44:03 Speaker 4: Well, I mean yeah, like.

44:07 Speaker 6: But the Peruvian mummies that was the problem.

44:10 Speaker 5: HEIMI is a known.

44:14 Speaker 6: He'll see anything as a UFO, He'll see anything as

44:16 Speaker 6: an alien.

44:17 Speaker 5: He's been caught.

44:18 Speaker 6: Before, Okay, peddling fake shit.

44:21 Speaker 5: Jesus, not a good He's just he's controversial.

44:26 Speaker 1: That's always the worst part of it, right, It's like, look,

44:28 Speaker 1: you can like just stop pedaling fake shit. It's like,

44:31 Speaker 1: because all you do is make it harder for anything

44:34 Speaker 1: to come out. But then again, that could be an

44:35 Speaker 1: op to. That could be an op by someone to

44:38 Speaker 1: like controlled opposition and sort of thing. Do I think

44:40 Speaker 1: that they're well, okay, so here's the thing right on.

44:43 Speaker 5: That that saying like the UFO community lives on that

44:48 Speaker 5: that that.

44:48 Speaker 1: No, sure, yeah, yeah I get that, but I do

44:53 Speaker 1: feel like it's okay, like think of it like this, Okay.

44:55 Speaker 1: A couple of years back, remember when NASA said that

44:58 Speaker 1: they were no longer going to focus on localized exploration,

45:01 Speaker 1: but focus on deep space and they're gonna turn the

45:03 Speaker 1: rest of it over to like privatized companies like SpaceX,

45:05 Speaker 1: Blue ORRYE and was it Virgin whatever, Voic, whatever the

45:09 Speaker 1: hell that one is. You know, I kind of thought

45:12 Speaker 1: to myself as like, at that point in time that

45:13 Speaker 1: they know that there's either like nothing nearbyas or or

45:17 Speaker 1: they're just like really looking to see like where we

45:20 Speaker 1: can go when shit hits the fan. And I kind

45:23 Speaker 1: of think that's more likely about what NASA is up to,

45:26 Speaker 1: because you'll hear about these Goldilocks planets coming out of

45:29 Speaker 1: the teplar, the Kepler telescope, you know, and they're like, oh,

45:32 Speaker 1: this one's eight light years away or something, or eight

45:35 Speaker 1: hundred light years away or whatever the hell it is.

45:37 Speaker 4: But it's in the Goldilocks zone. It could be habitable,

45:39 Speaker 4: you know.

45:39 Speaker 1: And you look at like what the Mars Curiosity rover

45:42 Speaker 1: is doing right now is gathering information for whether or

45:46 Speaker 1: not we inevitably go there, which is a gonna happen.

45:49 Speaker 4: But I don't think they're doing it for that.

45:50 Speaker 1: I think they're doing it for when we have to

45:52 Speaker 1: leave the Solar system.

45:54 Speaker 4: You know.

45:54 Speaker 1: I mean obviously the Voyager one and Voyager two you

45:58 Speaker 1: get you know, there hasn't been much out of that

45:59 Speaker 1: in year, but there was, you know, like they got us.

46:02 Speaker 1: They showed us the Andromeda system right the nearest one

46:05 Speaker 1: to us, yeap when it left, and so there's like

46:08 Speaker 1: there's a lot out there and we're now able to see.

46:11 Speaker 1: And what's so fascinating about it it's not necessarily about

46:15 Speaker 1: like the distance as much as it is the time.

46:20 Speaker 1: Right have you seen that big issue, Like that big

46:22 Speaker 1: image of Kepler where they're showing us like that. Those

46:26 Speaker 1: are just snapshots of things that happened so fucking long ago.

46:31 Speaker 5: Like we numbers, we can't fallow them.

46:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we don't know how old that beam of

46:37 Speaker 1: light is that we're seeing now.

46:39 Speaker 4: If it takes eight and a half minutes for the

46:41 Speaker 4: Sun to reach Earth Earth.

46:44 Speaker 1: I think about like, and that's you know what I mean,

46:48 Speaker 1: it's just so out it's everything out there.

46:49 Speaker 4: So again, are we alone?

46:51 Speaker 5: Like?

46:51 Speaker 4: Fuck, no, we're not alone.

46:52 Speaker 1: There's no way, there's no way feasibly you can look

46:55 Speaker 1: at any form of evolution and think that we're that

46:57 Speaker 1: we're the only ones here? Are there people out there

46:59 Speaker 1: that gonna be varying degrees of advancement? Absolutely? But it's

47:03 Speaker 1: you know, I do feel that if we're if we're

47:06 Speaker 1: being seen, they might just be you know.

47:08 Speaker 4: It's like, what was it? Fuck it? I like to

47:11 Speaker 4: go back to first contact, you know what I mean? Right?

47:13 Speaker 4: I love that damn Star Trek movie.

47:15 Speaker 1: But it's like the whole thing of them getting the

47:17 Speaker 1: rocket up and the Vulcans passing by just so happened

47:20 Speaker 1: to notice. But that kicked our entire world into the

47:25 Speaker 1: next phase, right, And I think a lot of people

47:27 Speaker 1: are kind of waiting for that.

47:29 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are waiting.

47:32 Speaker 5: You know, I think that a lot of people are like,

47:36 Speaker 5: are waiting right now for Trump, and I don't want

47:39 Speaker 5: to go to no.

47:40 Speaker 4: No, I know, I know, I know, I get what

47:42 Speaker 4: you mean.

47:42 Speaker 5: He he's this all this day one. I mean I

47:47 Speaker 5: knew nothing. You know, the amount of things that he

47:51 Speaker 5: had prepared himself to do on day one could not

47:55 Speaker 5: be feasible.

47:56 Speaker 6: And he said he was going to essentially fix the world.

47:58 Speaker 5: In a day.

48:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a salesman tactic, but yeah,

48:02 Speaker 1: it's it's just that.

48:04 Speaker 5: So a lot of people right now who maybe they

48:08 Speaker 5: don't even like Trump, but they've they've seen him say

48:13 Speaker 5: other things because he's he's been known to say. You know,

48:16 Speaker 5: I've seen some you know, I've talked to some people.

48:19 Speaker 5: I've heard some things. I don't quite believe it myself,

48:22 Speaker 5: but if you've seen this ship I've seen, you know,

48:24 Speaker 5: you might question it.

48:25 Speaker 1: Well, I just the motherfucker can be classify whatever he wants.

48:29 Speaker 5: Right, We're still waiting, and well, I don't know if

48:35 Speaker 5: that's a good thing or a bad thing. And then

48:38 Speaker 5: you know, you don't know, you want to say, Trump,

48:42 Speaker 5: why why are you not doing this? But then you

48:45 Speaker 5: know he this this new you know, task force been created,

48:51 Speaker 5: and you don't know if it's the career bureaucrats that

48:56 Speaker 5: are just they never told anything to begin because he's

49:00 Speaker 5: a temporary employee.

49:02 Speaker 1: But the president has access to all of that, meaning

49:05 Speaker 1: all he has to do is go just to Lockeed Martin.

49:09 Speaker 1: I am pretty sure they can sit there and dangle

49:12 Speaker 1: the defense contract renewal in front of that to get

49:14 Speaker 1: the data because at that point in time, those guys

49:17 Speaker 1: are getting money to work for us. So I don't

49:20 Speaker 1: know if they're going to be subject to a kind

49:21 Speaker 1: of disclosure, but you can only hide behind that for

49:25 Speaker 1: so often because they have they're going to have dd contractors,

49:28 Speaker 1: means that they're working with DoD officials, So those those

49:33 Speaker 1: officials are going to have the knowledge of that. And

49:37 Speaker 1: so I don't believe, you know, I get what you're

49:39 Speaker 1: trying to say. I'm sorry, go ahead.

49:41 Speaker 5: That's a really fair point, though, is and because the

49:47 Speaker 5: way I answered you with that is the way anyone

49:49 Speaker 5: in the community, the UFO world, sure whatever. That's what

49:53 Speaker 5: they'll say is it's all private, you know, because they'll

49:56 Speaker 5: they'll quote that Eisenhower line that I have in my

49:59 Speaker 5: own own intro is beware of the military industrial complex.

50:04 Speaker 5: So they'd say that he was trying to ward us

50:07 Speaker 5: of something that he had basically lost control of already.

50:10 Speaker 4: I well, yeah, you're right. I mean, you look at the.

50:13 Speaker 1: Fact that you know, go back to the GW and

50:16 Speaker 1: Dick Cheney and Halle Burton and all of that stuff.

50:19 Speaker 1: And you know, I say this frequently to a lot

50:22 Speaker 1: of my passengers, and we'll talk about the defense spending,

50:25 Speaker 1: and I say, you know, we should take a couple

50:27 Speaker 1: hundred billion of that and re orient it towards education

50:30 Speaker 1: and healthcare. Because the only way to have a populace

50:34 Speaker 1: that is well poised to defend this country and all

50:39 Speaker 1: of her interests would be to be them have have

50:41 Speaker 1: them be healthy and educated, you know.

50:44 Speaker 4: And that's how I view it, is, like you need,

50:46 Speaker 4: you know, for all of this.

50:49 Speaker 1: If they're holding back information about UAPs and extraterrestrial life

50:53 Speaker 1: and things like that because they're afraid of a panic,

50:56 Speaker 1: I think we're well beyond the panic phase.

50:59 Speaker 4: I think I think as a.

51:00 Speaker 5: Society, as a whole the world right now, tomorrow disclosure happens.

51:06 Speaker 5: You don't think there's problems.

51:08 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be more of what the

51:10 Speaker 1: plot line to the Watchmen comic in the Watchmen movie was,

51:14 Speaker 1: Oh wow.

51:17 Speaker 4: Think about that. No no, no, no, no, no, think about that

51:20 Speaker 4: for a second. All Right.

51:21 Speaker 1: The idea there is, look, we as as as a species, Okay,

51:26 Speaker 1: we're fundamentally flawed. Okay, we don't want to be bigoted

51:30 Speaker 1: or racist or anything like that, but we have it.

51:32 Speaker 1: We have it beat into us outside of our control

51:37 Speaker 1: because racism, sexism, discrimination, those are things that are taught.

51:41 Speaker 1: Those are taught that is as a hand me down

51:44 Speaker 1: trait of failure.

51:45 Speaker 5: You know, yeah.

51:47 Speaker 1: You don't wake up racist, you don't. That's stuff that's

51:49 Speaker 1: taught the peature. So we have that innate fear of

51:52 Speaker 1: the other. It's been brought into us by media and

51:54 Speaker 1: by our government and by uh, you could say, some

51:57 Speaker 1: social groups, some religious groups, you name it.

52:00 Speaker 4: It's like that.

52:01 Speaker 1: What we need is to give you as a prime

52:04 Speaker 1: example of this is go back to September twelfth, two

52:07 Speaker 1: thousand and one. Okay, as fucked as the day before,

52:12 Speaker 1: it was that unity that America felt following that event

52:19 Speaker 1: was something will probably never truly get again. And that

52:24 Speaker 1: that was everyone like, I'll give it to you, except

52:26 Speaker 1: I lived in Lakeside, California, which is known for being

52:30 Speaker 1: a very racist part of San Diego, predominantly white. There

52:34 Speaker 1: was a Caldeon family that owned a discount liquor store,

52:37 Speaker 1: and on September eleventh and September twelfth, there were people

52:40 Speaker 1: there that were standing around in case somebody tried to

52:44 Speaker 1: attack that store. Yeah, people you would not fucking think

52:48 Speaker 1: would do it, right, you know what I mean, like

52:50 Speaker 1: they were doing it because it wasn't at that point.

52:53 Speaker 1: It was about none of that other bullshit, right, It

52:57 Speaker 1: was about yes, yes, And that's.

53:01 Speaker 6: What we didn't really know who them was yet.

53:03 Speaker 1: We had an idea there was an inkling. I mean

53:06 Speaker 1: it was like one you know people, because there was

53:08 Speaker 1: We have to remember, there was immediately video footage coming

53:11 Speaker 1: out of the Middle East, I think Iraq where they

53:13 Speaker 1: were like burning American flags in the street, and that

53:15 Speaker 1: was that was very much I you know, I controlled

53:19 Speaker 1: propaganda in many ways. I would argue because what was it.

53:22 Speaker 1: The first thing we did is bomb Afghanistan like twenty

53:25 Speaker 1: days later, you.

53:25 Speaker 6: Know, fucking we didn't just recarpet it.

53:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we just kept going for years. I mean,

53:30 Speaker 1: we killed over one hundred and eighty thousand Iraqi civilians

53:34 Speaker 1: during that time. You know, I'm I'm not trying to

53:37 Speaker 1: like I'm anti war, but I'm just saying it's we

53:40 Speaker 1: did some shit, but before then we were unified against

53:45 Speaker 1: a common enemy. Yeah, And I think that and the

53:49 Speaker 1: end of Watchmen is the same way. Right In the

53:51 Speaker 1: in the comic book, it was a squid that everyone

53:54 Speaker 1: could be united to fight against. In the movie it

53:56 Speaker 1: was doctor Manhattan, which I think is again more like

53:58 Speaker 1: fighting god.

53:59 Speaker 4: It's very, very kind.

54:02 Speaker 1: Of on the nose, but again it worked really well

54:04 Speaker 1: for Yeah, it's it's very they deconstructed the concept of it,

54:07 Speaker 1: and I think they gave us a better ending. But

54:10 Speaker 1: that being said, it's like if we were we would

54:12 Speaker 1: sit there and look, now, we understand our place, right,

54:18 Speaker 1: if we were to see UFOs in the sky, or

54:21 Speaker 1: there to be an alien transmission, or there to be

54:24 Speaker 1: anything to fully back up the concept of what we've

54:27 Speaker 1: been talking about or watching through pop culture, especially through

54:30 Speaker 1: pulp comics in the nineteen fifties, g Men in Black

54:34 Speaker 1: and all, you know, clandestine UFO meetings, all of these

54:38 Speaker 1: things we were taught to look at and look through

54:41 Speaker 1: the lens of being fun. If we see it, then

54:42 Speaker 1: we now know the heavens are real, what is beyond

54:47 Speaker 1: us is greater than our comprehension, and we are now

54:50 Speaker 1: just a speck in a grander pool. Almost like the

54:54 Speaker 1: ending of Men in Black when it does the zoom

54:57 Speaker 1: out to the marble and he's clicking the marble. It's

54:59 Speaker 1: very similar to that ideology, that belief, which is that we.

55:02 Speaker 5: Go back to that the lie Ca says, or Kay

55:07 Speaker 5: says to Jay when he's first got him there, he's like,

55:10 Speaker 5: you know, one hundred years ago, we thought the world

55:12 Speaker 5: was flat, you know whatever, a thousand years and then

55:15 Speaker 5: he goes up, yeah, he goes, imagine what you'll know tomorrow.

55:19 Speaker 4: Yeah.

55:19 Speaker 1: Today, Yeah, and today you thought we were alone. Imagine

55:22 Speaker 1: what you'll know tomorrow. It's a great line. It's a

55:24 Speaker 1: great movie, by the way.

55:25 Speaker 5: I love that goddamn movie.

55:27 Speaker 4: It's but it's true.

55:28 Speaker 1: It's the idea there is that, if you think about it,

55:30 Speaker 1: pop culture has in its own way prepared us.

55:35 Speaker 5: And you don't think there's any chance that's on purpose.

55:38 Speaker 1: I think I think preparing us for something they can't control, right.

55:42 Speaker 1: I think in some ways what I mean by that

55:46 Speaker 1: is like, you know, we can't really control when you

55:50 Speaker 1: know when there's going to be a.

55:51 Speaker 4: Potential sighting, right, But it's kind of like, go back

55:53 Speaker 4: and look at Godzilla. You know Godzilla.

55:56 Speaker 1: You know, no one ever thinks Godzilla's real until he's

55:58 Speaker 1: at your fucking doorstep right, and then and then have

56:01 Speaker 1: you seen Godzilla minus one?

56:03 Speaker 5: Yeah?

56:04 Speaker 4: Ah, so good. But look at that movie.

56:06 Speaker 1: But look at that movie, look at through the lens

56:08 Speaker 1: of being like like a UAP type situation. Okay, Godzilla

56:11 Speaker 1: is now an alien threat. Okay, mankind. The government kind

56:15 Speaker 1: of did nothing for the people because there's nothing they

56:17 Speaker 1: could really do. The people had to band together to

56:19 Speaker 1: prove their own worth to themselves. That was what the

56:21 Speaker 1: Japanese people were fighting for us with their own dignity,

56:24 Speaker 1: for their own soul at the end. That's why that

56:26 Speaker 1: movie is like the best movie of like the last

56:27 Speaker 1: five years. But they were fighting for their own soul

56:31 Speaker 1: and that's why they banded together to fight back against Godzilla,

56:33 Speaker 1: and they won by working together. Now, the only way

56:36 Speaker 1: we as a people are going to truly transition to

56:39 Speaker 1: the next phase of our existence is by actually working together.

56:45 Speaker 1: And that might be what pop quar what these movies do?

56:48 Speaker 5: You're You've hit the nail on the head for like

56:51 Speaker 5: the eighth time. And you know that's why, like I said,

56:55 Speaker 5: that's why I've always liked you and like conversating with you,

56:59 Speaker 5: because I don't think you're a one dimensional as the

57:02 Speaker 5: a lot of people who talk about movies. I'm being honest.

57:05 Speaker 4: No, I love the concept of it all.

57:07 Speaker 5: So yeah, but and but but here's my thing is,

57:11 Speaker 5: like we look at okay, we look at Hollywood as

57:16 Speaker 5: a whole, and everything you've said is spot on right.

57:20 Speaker 5: You know, Marvel movies of you know, Marvels, whether it's

57:23 Speaker 5: Marvel Star Wars or whatever, it's kind of conditioned us

57:28 Speaker 5: two basically look up at the cosmos and expect that

57:34 Speaker 5: it's teeming with life, you know. And I think I

57:38 Speaker 5: think that you know, not only are is that precedent there,

57:43 Speaker 5: but there's also the invasion storyline. And I think that

57:48 Speaker 5: there's a good number of people that if UFOs just

57:51 Speaker 5: showed up tomorrow would truly think that there's some sort

57:54 Speaker 5: of invasion and and you know, whether it's shooting out

57:57 Speaker 5: them more or looting or rob I think there would

58:01 Speaker 5: be a lot of technical issues.

58:04 Speaker 1: There would be there go back to Orson Wells doing

58:08 Speaker 1: the War of the World's broadcast, right, you know that

58:11 Speaker 1: that broadcast I.

58:12 Speaker 4: Mean hit people just completely in the face, and they.

58:16 Speaker 1: Thought it was real, and people committed suicide because they

58:19 Speaker 1: thought it was real. You had a couple of years ago, No,

58:21 Speaker 1: not a couple of years ago, the Harold Camping rapture

58:25 Speaker 1: from back in twenty eleven. You don't remember that at all.

58:27 Speaker 4: Wait what ho the fuck? Bro, dude? This was insane.

58:30 Speaker 1: So this guy he was a preacher. Yeah, this guy

58:33 Speaker 1: was a preacher out of northern California. His name was

58:35 Speaker 1: Harold Camping. He used biblical math to determine that the

58:40 Speaker 1: rapture would happen at six pm on Saturday. I think

58:44 Speaker 1: it was April tenth or eleventh, like twenty eleven or whatever,

58:48 Speaker 1: twenty eleven. And this guy convinced people, convinced them that

58:53 Speaker 1: this was going to happen, and some people gave up,

58:56 Speaker 1: like hundreds of thousands of their own money, bankrupted themselves

59:00 Speaker 1: to this man to buy advertisements and and everything else.

59:04 Speaker 4: I was in La.

59:05 Speaker 1: The billboards were all over La that exact night when

59:08 Speaker 1: that happened. I was at the theater working and me

59:11 Speaker 1: and this this dude, Hector, we're just kind of joking

59:13 Speaker 1: about it because we're like, Okay, it's now six pm

59:16 Speaker 1: in New Zealand. Tomorrow check the way. Nothing's happened in

59:21 Speaker 1: New Zealand. I think we're good. And it was, but people,

59:25 Speaker 1: some people committed suicide, some people financially bankrupted themselves. Some

59:31 Speaker 1: people gave everything that they had to this man under

59:35 Speaker 1: this belief that the rapture would happen, and they ran

59:38 Speaker 1: with it. And then Harold Camping got it wrong and

59:43 Speaker 1: he never offered an apology as far as I remember,

59:46 Speaker 1: and he largely he died a little while later, pretty

59:49 Speaker 1: much in disgrace. And that's the thing is so like, yes,

59:52 Speaker 1: if we were to see something like this, you initially

59:57 Speaker 1: would I think, have the people that would react with conty,

1:00:01 Speaker 1: you know, you wouldn't be able to get away from that.

1:00:05 Speaker 1: But I do think that it depends on on what

1:00:09 Speaker 1: they do. So let's say if there's like an if

1:00:11 Speaker 1: there's like an instant they attack something. At that point

1:00:14 Speaker 1: everyone kind of coalesces around each other. Now we have

1:00:17 Speaker 1: the common enemy. It's in the unknown. Is what I

1:00:22 Speaker 1: think would cause them the greatest catastrophes.

1:00:25 Speaker 5: So question, what do you think religion would would would thrive?

1:00:33 Speaker 1: I think I think that it would be it would

1:00:36 Speaker 1: be a mixed bag, to be honest with you. You'd

1:00:38 Speaker 1: have some people that would renounce, uh, there their God.

1:00:43 Speaker 1: Some people would think that this is merely a vessel

1:00:45 Speaker 1: for their god. You would have a variety of different things. Now,

1:00:50 Speaker 1: Sarah Here's has a point saying I think chaos will reign.

1:00:53 Speaker 1: Chaos will reign, but not permanently.

1:00:57 Speaker 4: Right. It's it's about it's like, go look at the

1:01:00 Speaker 4: like look at them well.

1:01:02 Speaker 6: Because eventually people would have to pay, you know.

1:01:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, there would be initial freak out, right, you get

1:01:07 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of WTF tweets, you know, But look

1:01:12 Speaker 1: at like District nine and we're just going, we're just

1:01:14 Speaker 1: going at this in regards to like, you know, uh

1:01:18 Speaker 1: the movie the pop culture side of things. Okay, ye,

1:01:21 Speaker 1: District Line is a great example. A spaceship is almost

1:01:25 Speaker 1: derelict right on its last legs, comes here and they

1:01:29 Speaker 1: seek refugee status and we treat them like shit, you know,

1:01:33 Speaker 1: and then it goes kind of crazy. But it's like,

1:01:35 Speaker 1: would that also be a thing. What if you got

1:01:37 Speaker 1: a group of people that are out there and they're

1:01:40 Speaker 1: running around and they get injured by an asteroid or

1:01:43 Speaker 1: a comment or whatever, and then they limp here because

1:01:46 Speaker 1: we at least have what they need.

1:01:48 Speaker 4: How would we treat them? Right? I mean it all

1:01:51 Speaker 4: really depends on what they bring to the table.

1:01:54 Speaker 5: Right, right, you know, what can they do for us?

1:01:57 Speaker 4: Exactly?

1:01:57 Speaker 1: And go and look at and this is where and

1:01:59 Speaker 1: this is where if you want to, like I think

1:02:00 Speaker 1: one of the things Men in Black really touched on.

1:02:04 Speaker 1: And I again, you know, I have no idea, but

1:02:07 Speaker 1: if you look at the advancement of technology and really

1:02:10 Speaker 1: look at the advancement of technology from nineteen fifty until

1:02:14 Speaker 1: now seventy five years, where have we come? Well, I

1:02:18 Speaker 1: mean we have gone so fast that it's almost unbelievable

1:02:26 Speaker 1: how fast we've gone. And now we're in the AI phase. Right, yeah,

1:02:30 Speaker 1: So go back to Men in Black. What was the

1:02:34 Speaker 1: condition of refugee status in the world. They would have

1:02:41 Speaker 1: certain patents on their technology, right, you know, not to

1:02:45 Speaker 1: say And I always thought about that, like what if

1:02:47 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, what if something happened in

1:02:50 Speaker 1: Japan got like you know, with stereo technology or some

1:02:53 Speaker 1: shit like that right son, he knocked it out of

1:02:55 Speaker 1: the park. They were the ones to go to for years.

1:02:58 Speaker 1: They had the best of all. The electronics out of

1:03:00 Speaker 1: Japan were great.

1:03:01 Speaker 5: And who you know, who knows? And what do you

1:03:05 Speaker 5: tell your your stock I mean your stakeholders and stockhold stock,

1:03:11 Speaker 5: the investors, I should say, sorry, I couldn't find the

1:03:14 Speaker 5: word there. But you know, what if you what if

1:03:18 Speaker 5: you're a stake fund your funding company A, and then

1:03:22 Speaker 5: you find out company B had some sort of alien

1:03:26 Speaker 5: tech and and had a huge advantage through the government,

1:03:31 Speaker 5: that would piss some people off. So what if you know,

1:03:35 Speaker 5: north of Grubbin finds out that Lockheed has been getting

1:03:38 Speaker 5: you know, uh uh these this down you know, UFO

1:03:43 Speaker 5: material and there there you know, the money in that,

1:03:48 Speaker 5: in the proprietary you know, intellectual property and and all

1:03:53 Speaker 5: of that you know eventually would come into question.

1:03:57 Speaker 6: Finances would come into question, and.

1:03:59 Speaker 5: A lot of you and who gave it to you?

1:04:01 Speaker 5: So how long have you had you know, essentially a

1:04:03 Speaker 5: monopoly without telling anyone. And I think a lot of

1:04:06 Speaker 5: legal ramifications would arise from that. So again I think

1:04:10 Speaker 5: the government That's why I don't think it's as easy

1:04:13 Speaker 5: as the president coming out saying my fellow Americans are

1:04:16 Speaker 5: not alone.

1:04:17 Speaker 4: Yeah to it. I think I agree with you, although

1:04:21 Speaker 4: I will, I will be completely honest with you.

1:04:22 Speaker 1: If I ran for president, I would I would argue

1:04:25 Speaker 1: that on day one, I will confirm the existence of

1:04:28 Speaker 1: UFO and UFO based technology.

1:04:30 Speaker 4: I might even make that up. I'm might even making

1:04:32 Speaker 4: that up.

1:04:33 Speaker 1: I'd come out there and say it, like i'd swear

1:04:35 Speaker 1: in like, we're not alone, folks.

1:04:37 Speaker 4: We're not alone.

1:04:39 Speaker 1: So many aliens are here, not the ones you're thinking of.

1:04:42 Speaker 1: We're not going to deport any of them because they're

1:04:45 Speaker 1: giving us technology. Do you know where burritos came from?

1:04:49 Speaker 1: I'm a Crown Percy. Sound good, so amazing.

1:04:55 Speaker 5: This is the best, fucking I love I love the Trump.

1:04:59 Speaker 5: I love it because all you have to do is

1:05:01 Speaker 5: say something, say how much you like that thing, and

1:05:05 Speaker 5: then follow it up with it's the best, the most

1:05:09 Speaker 5: it's the best.

1:05:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what burritos are, my friends, the best,

1:05:12 Speaker 1: the best and most beautiful thing. No, literally, I drove

1:05:15 Speaker 1: like fucking forty five miles north yesterday just to get

1:05:18 Speaker 1: a good burrito.

1:05:19 Speaker 5: You're insane.

1:05:20 Speaker 1: It's by the airport in Seattle, it's the best I

1:05:22 Speaker 1: found outside of southern California. I will make their drive

1:05:24 Speaker 1: up there to go get a good burrito.

1:05:26 Speaker 5: That's all right. We drove fucking two hours when the

1:05:29 Speaker 5: first Sonic was was uh installed or what have you built?

1:05:36 Speaker 6: And it was in like that's part of New York

1:05:38 Speaker 6: and we drove like four hours for.

1:05:40 Speaker 5: It, four hours for we got there and I ate

1:05:44 Speaker 5: it and I was like, we just drove four hours

1:05:46 Speaker 5: for this. Yeah, yeah, why.

1:05:50 Speaker 1: Because all my buddies were like, oh yeah, it's like

1:05:52 Speaker 1: in and out.

1:05:53 Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's Uh.

1:05:55 Speaker 1: They built it where I was living in San Diego,

1:05:57 Speaker 1: they finally built They advertised Sonic for years, but they

1:06:01 Speaker 1: never had one. There was none in San Diego, but

1:06:02 Speaker 1: they advertised them for years. So they finally built one

1:06:06 Speaker 1: right around the corner from the drive in movie theater

1:06:09 Speaker 1: that I worked at, and so it kind of really

1:06:11 Speaker 1: came together because people would just go to Sonic and

1:06:14 Speaker 1: then come to the theater drive and drive in.

1:06:16 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, partner, that would have been dope.

1:06:18 Speaker 1: We should have but uh, you know, it is what

1:06:21 Speaker 1: it is. But but yeah, it wasn't. It was okay,

1:06:23 Speaker 1: like we have a we have a couple of sonics

1:06:25 Speaker 1: up here. I don't really, I don't know. I don't

1:06:27 Speaker 1: really like to eat that stuff. It's just so oil

1:06:30 Speaker 1: ye and you know, but anyway back to unidentified flying objects.

1:06:36 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have so I have, I have nine minutes left.

1:06:38 Speaker 5: I have to go and listen. I want to just

1:06:42 Speaker 5: say this now. I kind of want to do like

1:06:45 Speaker 5: more of these some way. So I know you you

1:06:49 Speaker 5: were doing something, but I'd like to have y'all maybe

1:06:53 Speaker 5: once a month we could do like a little panel.

1:06:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm off.

1:06:57 Speaker 5: Messages for people like X said that one in the

1:07:02 Speaker 5: chat who's like, hey, can I jump in?

1:07:05 Speaker 6: And we don't do that in the UFO community, you know,

1:07:08 Speaker 6: but remember the old panels.

1:07:10 Speaker 1: They still exist. You gotta be more careful though you can't.

1:07:15 Speaker 1: You can't just open it up. But well, no, I

1:07:19 Speaker 1: think I think having for one, healthy discussion, healthy debate

1:07:21 Speaker 1: is always a good thing, as well as having a

1:07:23 Speaker 1: good sense of humor about it all, you know. I mean,

1:07:25 Speaker 1: obviously the thing is, look, man, I may not like

1:07:28 Speaker 1: agree with everything that I read coming out of this stuff,

1:07:31 Speaker 1: but there's passion there that I can't deny. People and

1:07:35 Speaker 1: we all want there to be a truth and we

1:07:37 Speaker 1: all want there to be, you know, to to have

1:07:39 Speaker 1: that knowledge, because I think that that's something that we

1:07:42 Speaker 1: as as a species are are deserving of, you know,

1:07:45 Speaker 1: like we we are owed to that if something is

1:07:48 Speaker 1: out there, we should fucking know about it, you know

1:07:50 Speaker 1: what I mean.

1:07:50 Speaker 4: It's like not going to kill.

1:07:51 Speaker 5: Us, the same way that you know, space isn't classified,

1:07:56 Speaker 5: Like you can't classify reality.

1:07:59 Speaker 4: Yeah.

1:08:00 Speaker 5: One of the biggest things I have a problem with

1:08:02 Speaker 5: is the fact that so if you start really looking

1:08:06 Speaker 5: into this, Matt, you'll find that I like, I want to,

1:08:12 Speaker 5: I want to have a further discussion with you about

1:08:13 Speaker 5: this because the Department of Energy, so when you actually

1:08:16 Speaker 5: go into uh the Atomic Commission UH or the the

1:08:22 Speaker 5: the act that they signed into.

1:08:23 Speaker 6: Law, it's very vague about material.

1:08:29 Speaker 5: So anything that emits either you know, alpha, beta, gamma, felt,

1:08:35 Speaker 5: the whatever, any.

1:08:37 Speaker 6: Any sort of radiation.

1:08:40 Speaker 5: It's it's it's autoo classified, even if it's something you

1:08:46 Speaker 5: like a citizen stumbles upon. So and and what we've

1:08:50 Speaker 5: learned or at least heard in a lot of these

1:08:52 Speaker 5: cases is when there's down material that that that they

1:08:56 Speaker 5: show signs of some sort of radiation, and and you know,

1:09:00 Speaker 5: I can cite four or five, six, ten, up to

1:09:03 Speaker 5: ten cases off just off my head where military personnel

1:09:07 Speaker 5: rendition forced John Burrows couldn't. John McCain and his assistant

1:09:13 Speaker 5: ended up getting this guy's record unclassified or they classified

1:09:21 Speaker 5: this guy's service record. So when you apply for VA

1:09:25 Speaker 5: benefits because his eyes weren't working because he had an

1:09:28 Speaker 5: incident with a craft, he found out that not just

1:09:31 Speaker 5: the incident.

1:09:32 Speaker 6: Was classified, his entire service career was classified.

1:09:36 Speaker 5: So they were like, you didn't enter the service until

1:09:39 Speaker 5: this year. You know, we don't have you for this year,

1:09:42 Speaker 5: you know, and they denyed his benefits. So many cases

1:09:46 Speaker 5: like that where weird shit is going on. And you know,

1:09:50 Speaker 5: doctor Gary Nolan is doing work where he's studying something

1:09:56 Speaker 5: called they call Havana syndrome. I don't know if you've

1:09:59 Speaker 5: heard of it, but I have heard of yeah of

1:10:02 Speaker 5: that young So a lot of people say it's the

1:10:04 Speaker 5: side effects of these direct energy weapons, directed energy weapons.

1:10:08 Speaker 6: This is a causation of Avana syndrome.

1:10:13 Speaker 5: And you know, Eric talks about that and his testimony

1:10:17 Speaker 5: and a lot of other people talk about it.

1:10:19 Speaker 6: Gary Nolan talks about it from the other.

1:10:22 Speaker 5: Side because he is contracted by the government and he

1:10:25 Speaker 5: is studying a vanda syndrome for the government. So it's

1:10:29 Speaker 5: like all these pieces are actually there, and you know,

1:10:33 Speaker 5: people who are like very keen on the subjects, like myself,

1:10:37 Speaker 5: they know about it, but it seems like the reality, okay,

1:10:40 Speaker 5: the truth is floating there and they might have not

1:10:45 Speaker 5: come out and said it yet, Like ladies and gentlemen,

1:10:48 Speaker 5: we are not alone. But for me, it's like, not

1:10:52 Speaker 5: only have I seen something, I've seen things, but like

1:10:58 Speaker 5: there is for me people with under incredible testimony, you know,

1:11:07 Speaker 5: and and and I don't know. So maybe we because

1:11:10 Speaker 5: we can put someone in prison for their entire life,

1:11:14 Speaker 5: we can also they can lose their life with the

1:11:17 Speaker 5: death penalty in certain states based on eyewitness testimony, So

1:11:24 Speaker 5: like why is the double standard there?

1:11:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is an issue.

1:11:29 Speaker 1: I mean when looking at it, I mean, eyewitness testimony

1:11:33 Speaker 1: is largely incongruent and inconsistent.

1:11:38 Speaker 5: Until like a lot of officials where doctors have now

1:11:41 Speaker 5: come out and said that, It's like it's also you know,

1:11:43 Speaker 5: very susceptible.

1:11:44 Speaker 1: To manipulation and misinterpretation and things like that. I mean, yeah,

1:11:52 Speaker 1: I mean I like to think that, like I've got

1:11:53 Speaker 1: a good memory. But then there's times like am I

1:11:55 Speaker 1: am I remembering this event correctly?

1:11:59 Speaker 5: You know?

1:12:00 Speaker 4: And and it's.

1:12:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I mean I remember, you know, like I've

1:12:06 Speaker 1: never seen anything in my own personal life that would

1:12:09 Speaker 1: be like like that. I mean, the coolest thing I

1:12:12 Speaker 1: ever saw was I was at the Oregon coast one

1:12:15 Speaker 1: night and I was camping when I was a kid,

1:12:17 Speaker 1: and I looked over over the sunset and I saw

1:12:19 Speaker 1: like an asteroid or meteor like fucking burn up on entry.

1:12:23 Speaker 4: That was pretty big. That was pretty cool.

1:12:26 Speaker 5: That's I mean, that's a cosmic event. Man.

1:12:29 Speaker 4: It was crazy. It just happened so quick.

1:12:30 Speaker 1: It just I looked over and it was like just

1:12:32 Speaker 1: blew up and like whoa you know, but you don't know,

1:12:36 Speaker 1: I mean you just the thing is you don't know

1:12:37 Speaker 1: until they until they tell you. And then the downside, too,

1:12:40 Speaker 1: is going to be is the government even telling you

1:12:42 Speaker 1: the truth about this? When they tell you the truth, right,

1:12:45 Speaker 1: That's the other part of it as well. It's like

1:12:47 Speaker 1: with all these testimonies and all these these whistleblowers and

1:12:50 Speaker 1: these hearings and everything else, you figure like they would

1:12:55 Speaker 1: try and I understand like this new task force and

1:12:59 Speaker 1: and and I understand that, you know, Luna is trying

1:13:02 Speaker 1: to do that, and I don't.

1:13:04 Speaker 4: Know, I don't.

1:13:04 Speaker 1: I don't like her, but I you know, she comes

1:13:06 Speaker 1: across as at least at least somewhat honest about that,

1:13:11 Speaker 1: wanting there to be disclosure. But then she teams up

1:13:13 Speaker 1: with Comber and I'm like, this guy's like, like, it's

1:13:17 Speaker 1: just it's more bureaucratical nonsense. Yeah right, it's like, you know,

1:13:21 Speaker 1: just someone just ask like have her contact like Trump's office,

1:13:26 Speaker 1: like just give us something.

1:13:27 Speaker 4: I don't know, like ask someone like what do we

1:13:29 Speaker 4: need to do this sort of thing.

1:13:30 Speaker 5: Truble Definitely, at least.

1:13:33 Speaker 1: Honestly, I agree, I do agree. I you know, you

1:13:37 Speaker 1: flatter them a little bit, right, sir. I brought you

1:13:39 Speaker 1: a diet coke with a line. You know, can you

1:13:43 Speaker 1: tell me about UFOs?

1:13:46 Speaker 5: Can you just you know usual?

1:13:48 Speaker 4: Yeah?

1:13:49 Speaker 1: You know, I mean it's like Clinton, it would have

1:13:50 Speaker 1: been blowjobs, but with Trump, it's the soda.

1:13:54 Speaker 4: You know, It's that's that's how it is.

1:13:57 Speaker 1: That's that's all it is, so easy flattery and soda, folks.

1:14:02 Speaker 4: Yep, that's all you gotta do.

1:14:04 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it's I don't know, I think, Look,

1:14:07 Speaker 1: I think inevitably things will come out in a way

1:14:11 Speaker 1: that's going to be I think verifiable, and that people

1:14:14 Speaker 1: I think people want they want the disclosure, They want

1:14:18 Speaker 1: to know that. I think people want to know that

1:14:21 Speaker 1: we're not alone. Yeah, I think it would allow us

1:14:23 Speaker 1: to kind of reach this new level of consciousness. To

1:14:26 Speaker 1: be fair, I know that's kind of a tough sell

1:14:29 Speaker 1: in a few ways, but my reasoning for that is

1:14:31 Speaker 1: when you know you're not alone, it kind of makes

1:14:36 Speaker 1: it takes the pressure off.

1:14:38 Speaker 5: Yeah.

1:14:38 Speaker 4: Right, So, and who knows.

1:14:40 Speaker 5: If it could deliver, like you know, in a non

1:14:45 Speaker 5: reactionary way to a tragedy like nine to eleven, could

1:14:49 Speaker 5: it kind of raise the footing for humanity to one?

1:14:54 Speaker 4: And I think I think potentially, like we could look

1:14:56 Speaker 4: at it.

1:14:56 Speaker 1: It would take a little bit of time because they're

1:14:58 Speaker 1: going to have your factions fighting or what it means

1:15:00 Speaker 1: symbolically right or like metaphorically or whatever the hell.

1:15:03 Speaker 4: You know, you're gonna have your problems with that.

1:15:05 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people would look at

1:15:07 Speaker 1: it through the and realize like, okay, so what does

1:15:10 Speaker 1: this mean now? Like you know, we're we're just at

1:15:12 Speaker 1: that next phase, right you know, like what this is

1:15:16 Speaker 1: the dawning of the age.

1:15:17 Speaker 4: Of a or whatever?

1:15:17 Speaker 1: Right, Like, did you ever see that Zeitgeist documentary from

1:15:21 Speaker 1: back in like seven? Holy shit, dude, look up. Oh

1:15:24 Speaker 1: my god, dude, you want to know. Okay, you want

1:15:27 Speaker 1: to know a documentary that like literally took parts of

1:15:31 Speaker 1: the Internet by absolute storm. It's called Zeitgeist, and dude,

1:15:35 Speaker 1: it talks about like religion and like I think even

1:15:38 Speaker 1: some stuff with UFOs and like uh fucking government takeovers

1:15:42 Speaker 1: and like conspiracy theories. Oh bro, dude, it was big,

1:15:45 Speaker 1: like when the when the Internet first started coming around.

1:15:47 Speaker 1: I think it came out like six or oh seven.

1:15:49 Speaker 1: You should be able to find the whole thing on YouTube.

1:15:51 Speaker 1: It's just called Zeitgeist, right, and it's a super I mean,

1:15:54 Speaker 1: it's almost, I think at this point, kind of laughable.

1:15:56 Speaker 1: But it was such a phenomenon back then, just so

1:16:00 Speaker 1: so fascinating.

1:16:00 Speaker 6: When that it's like, yeah, and I know how those

1:16:03 Speaker 6: earlier you know viral.

1:16:05 Speaker 4: Oh no, you can. Okay, I know we got going,

1:16:07 Speaker 4: but I'll tell you this real quick. You know what

1:16:08 Speaker 4: got me? Man?

1:16:09 Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, one night, I mean I'm at the studio

1:16:11 Speaker 1: I was working at in San Diego working on a screenplay.

1:16:14 Speaker 4: It's like two in the morning.

1:16:15 Speaker 1: My friend who owned the studio comes out and he

1:16:17 Speaker 1: just looks at me and he goes like, hey, man,

1:16:19 Speaker 1: you ever hear a planet X And I'm like, no,

1:16:22 Speaker 1: what the fuck is that. He's like, oh, dude, you

1:16:25 Speaker 1: gotta see this video. Fox News was talking about it,

1:16:28 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay. So he shows me this Fox

1:16:31 Speaker 1: News report talking about planet Naberu and and ze youryah

1:16:36 Speaker 1: Sitchen and you know, the Nephelim and all the stuff.

1:16:40 Speaker 1: And I went on a fucking rabbit hole, dude, Like

1:16:43 Speaker 1: I went on a rabbit This is two thousand and seven,

1:16:45 Speaker 1: and I and in the back of my dumb, idiot brain,

1:16:47 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, are we gonna die in twenty twelve?

1:16:51 Speaker 1: It's like when the Aztec calendar ends? Is that one

1:16:53 Speaker 1: We're all gonna be swallowed up by the gravitational pull

1:16:56 Speaker 1: of this planet that's eight times the size of Earth

1:17:00 Speaker 1: And of course not right, but it was still like

1:17:02 Speaker 1: it was crazy. People really thought that people really did that.

1:17:07 Speaker 1: All these videos were just like, uh.

1:17:11 Speaker 4: Did they?

1:17:12 Speaker 5: Yeah?

1:17:13 Speaker 1: Well, twenty twelve was about the end of the Aztec calendar,

1:17:15 Speaker 1: but it didn't really tie into Buru.

1:17:17 Speaker 5: But but I made that movie, I would have done

1:17:20 Speaker 5: a lot more service.

1:17:20 Speaker 4: To Oh hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah.

1:17:23 Speaker 1: Interesting, But they did do service to the source material

1:17:27 Speaker 1: in Star Trek Into Darkness. So Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orchie,

1:17:33 Speaker 1: by the way, may he rest in peace.

1:17:34 Speaker 4: He just died last week.

1:17:36 Speaker 1: He they are. They were big into conspiracy theories. And

1:17:39 Speaker 1: so the opening of Star Trek, well remember the opening

1:17:43 Speaker 1: of Into Darkness when they go to that planet and

1:17:45 Speaker 1: it's got all like the dudes that are all in white,

1:17:47 Speaker 1: like the temples and the enterprises in the water. They're

1:17:51 Speaker 1: in planet ne Biu, and and the thing with that

1:17:54 Speaker 1: is that movie is all about the Enterprise leaving the

1:17:56 Speaker 1: Solar System.

1:17:59 Speaker 5: Holy shit.

1:18:00 Speaker 1: So they completely play up that because that whole thing

1:18:03 Speaker 1: from the seventies and like nobody fucking got it. And

1:18:09 Speaker 1: I'm watching that movie in the theater going like, holy shit,

1:18:12 Speaker 1: it's no Aberu. Like I was happy, man, I thought

1:18:15 Speaker 1: that was awesome.

1:18:16 Speaker 5: That's what a wild tie in. Yeah no, but all

1:18:21 Speaker 5: right I do. I'm like, I don't want to end this.

1:18:24 Speaker 5: It's so bad. I literally have to go five minutes

1:18:28 Speaker 5: up the road and pick my girlfriend up it.

1:18:31 Speaker 4: I gotta go check on my kids and make sure

1:18:32 Speaker 4: they're not dead.

1:18:33 Speaker 5: So Matt, let's let's make more habit of this. Uh So,

1:18:37 Speaker 5: and especially once I put this on the podcast platform,

1:18:42 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people will really enjoy this

1:18:44 Speaker 5: conversation for just the bantering and you know, kind of

1:18:47 Speaker 5: taking away from the quote unquote guest, even though you

1:18:50 Speaker 5: are a guest. It's it's that there's not like that

1:18:54 Speaker 5: topic specific thing. So I just like bantering with you, dude,

1:18:58 Speaker 5: and you're you're so intelligent. And for anyone who does

1:19:01 Speaker 5: you know, watch watch this in the future or listen

1:19:05 Speaker 5: to it on.

1:19:05 Speaker 6: The podcast platform.

1:19:06 Speaker 5: And you watch movies and you like movies, definitely subscribe

1:19:10 Speaker 5: to Three Buck Theater and Hollywood after Dark.

1:19:13 Speaker 6: Uh just Jarbo's just amazing.

1:19:15 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a lot of potty humor, a lot

1:19:18 Speaker 4: of it.

1:19:18 Speaker 5: So yeah, just a little sample tonight.

1:19:21 Speaker 4: I kept it clean.

1:19:23 Speaker 5: You did.

1:19:24 Speaker 6: You did talk about the one guy selling his dry.

1:19:27 Speaker 1: Come, but that he ate it, ate it. He definitely was,

1:19:31 Speaker 1: I think, trying to market it. But we believe that

1:19:32 Speaker 1: he was. That he was every day just you know

1:19:36 Speaker 1: what waste not want not is what I think with you.

1:19:40 Speaker 1: It's that they I'll show you some videos of old

1:19:43 Speaker 1: Mike Cernovich when he was on New Tropics, and you

1:19:44 Speaker 1: tell me that he's not high in his own come,

1:19:46 Speaker 1: it's all I'm saying.

1:19:47 Speaker 5: Yeah, sounds like a plan. Send those over to the

1:19:50 Speaker 5: the h Yes, guys. Uh and then X is what

1:19:55 Speaker 5: is it?

1:19:56 Speaker 4: Just Matt Jarbo, m Jarbo.

1:19:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm Jarbo, Matt. I'm I'm gonna bounce out so

1:20:02 Speaker 5: I won't be able to stay after, you know, for

1:20:05 Speaker 5: our little get together.

1:20:06 Speaker 1: That's all good, man, it's all good. Thanks for having me.

1:20:08 Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

1:20:08 Speaker 5: Yeah, really did. I can't stress you how much fun

1:20:12 Speaker 5: this was in like really, it's a good break up

1:20:18 Speaker 5: of the stuff. So and like you said, with bits

1:20:23 Speaker 5: of humor and maybe you know, it's it's actually nice

1:20:26 Speaker 5: to have someone doesn't agree.

1:20:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's good to kind of like

1:20:30 Speaker 1: laugh and be cathartic. It's it's like a big old

1:20:32 Speaker 1: emotional hand job. You know, you've got to release time,

1:20:38 Speaker 1: you gotta release.

1:20:41 Speaker 5: As always your your true treasure of the Internet. And

1:20:46 Speaker 5: I'm very glad that we know each other. So everyone

1:20:49 Speaker 5: else you know what it is? Uh hitting it uh

1:20:53 Speaker 5: and and uh we'll get back at it next time.

1:20:56 Speaker 5: Next episode, Doctor, I'll be lobe Head after physicist Arvard.

1:21:01 Speaker 5: Right after that, Jarvo, I love it, So we'll see

1:21:04 Speaker 5: you guys next time.