Captain Robert Salas-Danny Sheehan-Steve Bassett & Ron James- MUFON/NPI Rally Post UAP hearing
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Speaker 1: keep exploring the unknown together. Today I'm releasing a special
Speaker 1: segment that we filmed during the Congressional hearing day. This
Speaker 1: was a rally that Mofon and the New Paradigm Institute
Speaker 1: held in conjunction at the park across the street from
Speaker 1: the building. It was truly tremendous to hear all the speakers,
Speaker 1: and I really really enjoyed our time there. I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoy it too. Happy Thanksgiving, Thank.
Speaker 2: You for coming. I'm Jim Garrison.
Speaker 3: I'm the director of the Washington office of the New
Speaker 3: Paradigm Institute. This press event immediately following the hearing we
Speaker 3: all participated in as being jointly sponsored by Moufon, the
Speaker 3: Mutual UFO Network, and the New Paradigm Institute. We're also
Speaker 3: supported by other partners and organizations around the world that
Speaker 3: have been coming together to support the single most important
Speaker 3: mission of our time for the governments to disclose the
Speaker 3: information that we the public already know that there is
Speaker 3: zero doubt that we are not alone that came through
Speaker 3: in the hearings. It's coming out in all kinds of
Speaker 3: places around the United States and around the world. And
Speaker 3: so Moufon and New Paradigm Institute are in the process
Speaker 3: of forming a strategic alliance to bring people together as
Speaker 3: we seek to build a global coalition and a global
Speaker 3: movement around disclosure. So what we're going to do today
Speaker 3: is just here from some of the figures that we
Speaker 3: all know and love have been working tirelessly in the
Speaker 3: disclosure movement over the last several decades, and then we
Speaker 3: will open it up to any questions that any of
Speaker 3: you might have. We're going to start with Danny Shean,
Speaker 3: who's the founder and president and general counsel of the
Speaker 3: New Paradigm Institute. UH, and then I'll introduce the other
Speaker 3: speakers after the last one finishes.
Speaker 2: Danny there, let me get.
Speaker 4: You at the Biden.
Speaker 5: I'll take the fuzzy one. Fuzzy, I get the fuzzy Mike. Okay,
Speaker 5: So you have the for for what you could hear
Speaker 5: of the actual questions and UH and testimony there which
Speaker 5: was a little muffled sometime and a little hurried uh.
Speaker 4: To sort of get through the thing. What you what you.
Speaker 5: The key takeaways is you heard lou Elizondo state that he,
Speaker 5: as the longtime director of the top secret program inside
Speaker 5: the Pentagon to investigate the UFO issue, had come to
Speaker 5: the conclusion that it was clear that the evidence showed
Speaker 5: that we.
Speaker 4: Are not alone in the cosmos.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: And you heard him talking about the biologics, the biological evidence.
Speaker 5: You heard the inquiries coming to him, what does that mean?
Speaker 5: Does that mean bodies? What does that mean? And you
Speaker 5: heard half a dozen of the members of Congress asking
Speaker 5: kind of more probing questions, like if you were allowed
Speaker 5: to get into a skiff with me, could you tell
Speaker 5: me more about the bodies? And he said, I'm not
Speaker 5: authorized to tell you that. What he's suggesting is that
Speaker 5: even in a skiff, he's not authorized to tell them
Speaker 5: this because the clearances that they have as members of
Speaker 5: Congress are not the kind of clearances that they need
Speaker 5: to have in order to be told about this program,
Speaker 5: because this program has gained an additional classification, and that's
Speaker 5: what you were getting the signals about. You could hear
Speaker 5: that there were at least eight or ten times, if
Speaker 5: you were counting, like I was counting eight or ten
Speaker 5: times when it was said I can't talk about this
Speaker 5: in public, okay. But when you saw them pressed with
Speaker 5: the question is if we got you into a skiff,
Speaker 5: could you tell me the following, at which point the
Speaker 5: language changed into I'm not authorized to tell you that,
Speaker 5: or that would not be up to me to tell
Speaker 5: you that information. So it means that there's a source
Speaker 5: of authority still above the members of Congress and their clearances,
Speaker 5: which is still being deemed to be operational on the
Speaker 5: part of the witnesses that were actually under these security
Speaker 5: oaths that well, you could tell that Lou was the
Speaker 5: admiral was they were. Well, the question as to who
Speaker 5: those people are above them is one of the questions
Speaker 5: that Congress has to find out about. And you saw
Speaker 5: Burlison Congress and Burlson kept asking him, kept saying, well,
Speaker 5: who is that? Who is that that is authorized to
Speaker 5: tell us that? And lu said, I'm not authorized to
Speaker 5: tell you that, okay, And it isn't that if I
Speaker 5: got into a skiff, I could tell you, which was
Speaker 5: a whole other category of information. But there's a whole
Speaker 5: other category of information that even if you get them
Speaker 5: into a skiff, they're not going to tell Congress, okay.
Speaker 5: So that's the status where we are right now. It's
Speaker 5: farther ahead than we were a year ago, so we're
Speaker 5: making progress step by step. But you'll see that this
Speaker 5: wall is still up here. But very importantly there are
Speaker 5: a major, growing number of members of Congress, not only
Speaker 5: on the House side that you saw today, but over
Speaker 5: on the Senate side that are saying, at least we
Speaker 5: need to know. And you saw even with Congressman Ogil
Speaker 5: that came at the very end, who was the super hawk.
Speaker 5: I think you can notice that that he's here to
Speaker 5: protect the national security of the United States. He said,
Speaker 5: whatever our positions are, Congress needs to know.
Speaker 4: Okay, you got to remember now.
Speaker 5: That's the purpose of the UFO Controlled Disclosure Act is
Speaker 5: to get Congress informed, and then it's going to have
Speaker 5: to be Congress and others who decide how much the public.
Speaker 4: Is going to be told.
Speaker 5: So it's important for the population to know that what
Speaker 5: we're driving at right now is getting Congress informed. There
Speaker 5: are elected representatives. They need to know they're being iced out.
Speaker 5: And as you heard one of the other congress persons
Speaker 5: say that, I believe that that's criminal. You heard that
Speaker 5: it's criminal for them to be refusing to brief Congress
Speaker 5: on this program. All right, So there are nuggets like
Speaker 5: that that you pick up if you listen closely to
Speaker 5: what really happened here today. And you heard a congresswoman
Speaker 5: may say over and over again, this is clear that
Speaker 5: we need to have more hearings. We need to have
Speaker 5: more hearings to get more information.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: And the key to understand is that when President elect
Speaker 5: Trump is inaugurated on January twentieth and becomes president, he
Speaker 5: has publicly stated repeatedly that he will immediately release all
Speaker 5: of the information about UFOs that the government has. Okay,
Speaker 5: now I wouldn't bet on that, but the bottom line
Speaker 5: is he is saying that, and so all he has
Speaker 5: to do, very importantly, all he has to do is
Speaker 5: order all of the people who are under UFO disc
Speaker 5: non disclosure security agreements to release them from that security
Speaker 5: agreement so then they can come before Congress and tell
Speaker 5: Congress what the information is that they've got. That's the
Speaker 5: next step that has to be focused on, because it's
Speaker 5: not at all clear that the most responsible thing to
Speaker 5: have happen is have Donald Trump get all the information
Speaker 5: and decide to do whatever it is he wants with it.
Speaker 4: Okay, that Congress should be involved.
Speaker 5: These are the elected representatives, okay, and the American.
Speaker 4: People should be involved.
Speaker 5: You heard Lou Alizondo lay out the three levels of
Speaker 5: things that had to happen. The third one was that
Speaker 5: the citizenry has to get informed, has to get informed,
Speaker 5: has to get mobilized. Okay, that's why the New Paradigm
Speaker 5: Institute and the Mutual UFO Network are joining together now.
Speaker 5: The Mutual UFO Network has probably one of the most
Speaker 5: thorough going grassroots membership in the country that they've been
Speaker 5: they've been around for over fifty years, okay, and that
Speaker 5: what we need to do is we need to organize
Speaker 5: in every one of the four hundred and thirty five
Speaker 5: congressional districts a Citizens for Disclosure Team. Okay, we have
Speaker 5: them in forty three states now, but we don't have
Speaker 5: them in all four hundred and thirty five congressional districts.
Speaker 4: Yet. That's what we're all going to be working on.
Speaker 5: We're going to be mobile that third leg of what
Speaker 5: is required that Lou Alizondo talked about. All right, that's
Speaker 5: the job of what this conference is about.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Lou is now off actually briefing some of the other
Speaker 5: members of the committee right now in private that has
Speaker 5: been set up. But the bottom line is he may
Speaker 5: get here, but for everybody disperses, but we can't disperse
Speaker 5: that we've got to push for what May says needs.
Speaker 4: To be more and more of these hearings.
Speaker 5: We need to get the hearing that's going to take
Speaker 5: place on the nineteenth over on the Senate side with
Speaker 5: Senator Jillibrand is going to bring in the new.
Speaker 4: Head of Arrow.
Speaker 5: You actually heard the admiral suggests maybe we can have
Speaker 5: more optimism about the Arrow Office under the new administration.
Speaker 5: You heard repeated the statements that the Arrow Office had
Speaker 5: failed in its mission under its previous administration. Okay, so
Speaker 5: it's possible, but I would just make clear to you
Speaker 5: as long as the Arrow Office stays up under the
Speaker 5: control of the United States Defense Department and the Intelligence community,
Speaker 5: these are the people that have been hiding the information
Speaker 5: for eighty years. So I think that the Arrow Office
Speaker 5: doesn't feel itself really authorized to go get this information.
Speaker 5: So the people are going to have to join together
Speaker 5: with Congress and mobilize to get this information brought to
Speaker 5: the world. And as doctor Garrison pointed out, we know
Speaker 5: a lot of this information already, but the fact is
Speaker 5: that you know, seventy five percent of the people in
Speaker 5: the country don't know that information. So that's the other thing.
Speaker 5: The new Paradigm Institute, and the Moufon people are going
Speaker 5: to be doing is getting the information out to the
Speaker 5: people so that everybody in the country is as well
Speaker 5: informed as probably most of you are, to get to
Speaker 5: that stage so that they can mobilize and put the
Speaker 5: pressure on their congress people and hold more hearings. And
Speaker 5: we need to move to have more hearings as soon
Speaker 5: as possible right after the January twentieth inauguration of Trump.
Speaker 5: Hold him to his word of making this information available,
Speaker 5: get the Congress involved to reconvene hearings, get Trump. Put
Speaker 5: the pressure on Trump to release all of the UFO
Speaker 5: whistleblowers from their national security clearanic restrictions and bring them
Speaker 5: to Congress to brief Congress on what's going on. That's
Speaker 5: our job. Now, that's our job. We're the people out
Speaker 5: in the streets.
Speaker 4: Now we've come out of.
Speaker 5: The marble halls of Congress to mobilize as the citizenry
Speaker 5: to get this job done. But be certain of the
Speaker 5: fact that the congressional representatives are not going to do
Speaker 5: this unless the pressure is kept on by the citizens.
Speaker 5: And that is what Timbershet said when he came out
Speaker 5: of the skiff a couple months ago. He said, the
Speaker 5: only reason we're here is because the people are demanding it. Okay,
Speaker 5: so don't stop, don't stop. That's what we're doing. The
Speaker 5: New Paradigm Institute and MoveOn are joining together now in
Speaker 5: an alliance to get that to happen. So everybody's stay tuned,
Speaker 5: stay in touch with us at the New Paradigm Institute,
Speaker 5: and then move On so that you can be kept
Speaker 5: up to date. Okay, come to New Paradigm Institute dot org. Okay,
Speaker 5: and you can get all of the information. Great, thank
Speaker 5: you very much, thank you. Any of these private contractors.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, they're perfectly entitled to subpoena bum.
Speaker 5: Well because they don't have enough citizen pressure put on them. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's the right exact question, that there's not enough citizen
Speaker 5: pressure on the citizen pressure has generated what we saw today,
Speaker 5: which was okay, but it's not it's not adequate what
Speaker 5: happened today, it's just a step in the next direction.
Speaker 5: We've got to mobilize to get the next step taken
Speaker 5: as soon as practicable after January twentieth for the next
Speaker 5: round of hearings right away in the new administration.
Speaker 7: Academic.
Speaker 8: Step into.
Speaker 4: Hi. I'm Ron James.
Speaker 9: I'm the filmmaker who made the film Accidental Truth, and
Speaker 9: I'm also the media relations director for Moufon, and we're
Speaker 9: here also with Muffon's actual director. For too long, the
Speaker 9: UFO community has been divided. There's been a lot of infighting,
Speaker 9: there's been a lack of clarity in our destiny and
Speaker 9: our path, and we're setting a new precedent in cooperation.
Speaker 4: Moufon and the New.
Speaker 9: Paradigm Institute are two very different organizations doing a lot
Speaker 9: of the same work, and it's been very clear to
Speaker 9: us that there's strength in numbers. So we're finding ways
Speaker 9: that we can communicate and cooperate to the public and
Speaker 9: move this agenda forward as best we can. What we
Speaker 9: witnessed today in these hearings was what I believe is
Speaker 9: part of an organized role out that is being determined
Speaker 9: by people will never meet information being delivered in such
Speaker 9: a way that we're getting fed what we're getting fed,
Speaker 9: and there's very very little that any of us can
Speaker 9: do to change this narrative that is coming through us officially.
Speaker 9: And as much as I love and respect the people
Speaker 9: that were witnesses and that have come forward, they are
Speaker 9: harnessed and chained by their chain of command. They cannot
Speaker 9: say certain things, they will never say certain things. If
Speaker 9: it's up to these people that are doing this, we're
Speaker 9: never going to get the whole truth. But organizations like
Speaker 9: Muffon for years have been gathering cases, gathering information, finding proof.
Speaker 9: There is overwhelming evidence of these programs. There's overwhelming evidence
Speaker 9: of non human intelligence engaging the human race. There is
Speaker 9: overwhelming evidence of everything that these guys still have to
Speaker 9: sit and say, well that you know, I can't tell you,
Speaker 9: but we need to know.
Speaker 10: We deserve to know.
Speaker 9: And it's going to take the slow process of moving
Speaker 9: government along and supporting them in the way they have
Speaker 9: to do it, even though it's hard to watch sometimes
Speaker 9: but it is happening. But it's going to take the
Speaker 9: civilian groups, all of us, not only putting the knowledge
Speaker 9: out but also pushing the government to go further and
Speaker 9: so the truth. Anybody really that wants to get a
Speaker 9: handle on what's going on with this, the fact that
Speaker 9: there's been non human intelligence engaging us for the entire
Speaker 9: time we've existed on this planet, and that it's been
Speaker 9: covered up by every governing body over humanity from the
Speaker 9: beginning of recorded history until until now, and it's still
Speaker 9: being covered up. But this fact, anybody that wants to
Speaker 9: go out and do the research can gain access to
Speaker 9: the information because there's always been people leaking stuff and
Speaker 9: mixing it in with disinformation. But the truth is something
Speaker 9: that is easy to acquire if you take the time.
Speaker 9: But then we have to share it with the public
Speaker 9: and so move on. At the Mutual UFOE Network, since
Speaker 9: nineteen fifty five, we have done this work. We've compiled
Speaker 9: over one hundred and fifty five thousand case reports. We
Speaker 9: have seven thousand members, including active field investigators all over
Speaker 9: the world who right now are investigating UFO reports. We
Speaker 9: have state directors, we have chapters, and with New Paradigm's
Speaker 9: goal to increase public awareness and bring together community around
Speaker 9: this topic, because let's face it, when the non human
Speaker 9: intelligence reality sinks in.
Speaker 10: People are going to be like WHOA who do I call?
Speaker 9: And we want to be those people form that community
Speaker 9: around this new knowledge and help humanity to adapt to
Speaker 9: the new reality. Somebody has to do this, and so
Speaker 9: it might as well be us. It might as well
Speaker 9: be you, It might as well be me, It might
Speaker 9: as well be Moofon.
Speaker 10: It might as well be New.
Speaker 9: Paradigm, might as well be Steve Bassett, who's been doing
Speaker 9: this forever and so you know forever this Steve got
Speaker 9: me into this film. So at any rate, this alliance
Speaker 9: and this intention to move forward in a cooperative manner
Speaker 9: is unprecedented. And to say a little bit more about Muffon,
Speaker 9: I'd like to introduce you to Dave McDonald's who is
Speaker 9: MUFON's director.
Speaker 2: I'm giving you the honorary Fuzzy.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 7: I am Dave McDonald and the executive director of Moufon.
Speaker 7: I can only mirror what you've heard already. Moufon's been
Speaker 7: around fifty five years, I think nineteen sixty nine, and
Speaker 7: it became because the Air Force shut down Project Bluebook,
Speaker 7: so there was no place for people to file their reports.
Speaker 7: The Air Force actually came to Moufon said here's the Forbes,
Speaker 7: here's a twelve step investigation procedure from the FBI, Go
Speaker 7: get them, and we have for all these years. Today
Speaker 7: we have the largest UFO database on the planet, one
Speaker 7: point two million pieces of evidence and the coin of
Speaker 7: phrase from one of my predecessors, quite famous. He said,
Speaker 7: the evidence is embarrassingly abundant. We have in our files
Speaker 7: medical reports signed off by the doctors who examined the bodies.
Speaker 7: These things go back quite a few years. Some of
Speaker 7: them weren't even living things. There are several of them
Speaker 7: that were androids. Think of data on Star Trek. We
Speaker 7: have the evidence, we have the drawings, we have sketches.
Speaker 7: It's just it's just so overwhelming. It's hard for people
Speaker 7: to say, now we're the only ones, you know, if
Speaker 7: we're the best that the creator could do, we should
Speaker 7: look for another creator. That's what one of the congressmen
Speaker 7: told me. I'm still laughing about it. So anyway, we're
Speaker 7: here today to stand in lockstep with groups with similar motives.
Speaker 7: We want to knock through this disclosure. It's got to
Speaker 7: come out. I'm one of those guys. I don't necessarily
Speaker 7: want to know everything the government knows.
Speaker 2: We may not need to.
Speaker 7: There are security issues in place, but for something that's
Speaker 7: monumental as the possibility of life besides us, come, my guys,
Speaker 7: it's time to let the world know.
Speaker 4: So that's my story.
Speaker 2: I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 7: Thank you all for being here and keep looking up.
Speaker 3: And now I'd like to introduce Steve Bassett of the
Speaker 3: Paradigm Research Institute and Hollywood Disclosure Alliance, which or other
Speaker 3: organizations with which we're working. And I just want to
Speaker 3: pay a special tribute to Steve, who's been here in
Speaker 3: Washington as the first ever lobbyist on these matters, who's
Speaker 3: been as tireless as anyone I know on this Domaine.
Speaker 11: Haven't actually achieved institute status yet. I've just Paradigm Research Group,
Speaker 11: but I just converted to a five ZHO and C
Speaker 11: three nonprofit think tank education and the website's going to.
Speaker 10: Reflect that very soon.
Speaker 11: First of all, as a registered lobbyist, I want to
Speaker 11: say that I have a new project. I'm going to
Speaker 11: lobby the Congress to train their members how to speak
Speaker 11: into the microphones.
Speaker 10: Okay, that's at least I can do for you. Okay.
Speaker 11: Now, there's two fake takeaways that I want to mention,
Speaker 11: and I'm going to turn this to next speaker. Maybe
Speaker 11: one of the most important things is this. You may
Speaker 11: have picked up on it. It also happened in the
Speaker 11: hearing a year ago. Several of the members made a
Speaker 11: very concerted effort to point out how non partisan is
Speaker 11: issue is. All right, they need to do that you
Speaker 11: don't see that in other hearings. Why are they doing that?
Speaker 11: Because they have figured out, and I know this for
Speaker 11: a fact, that this issue, which is the most non
Speaker 11: partisan issue on the planet, is maybe the pathway for.
Speaker 10: Them to work together again. And they are doing that.
Speaker 10: We're seeing it.
Speaker 11: You just do not detect almost any partisanship in this.
Speaker 11: And I got to tell you most of the members
Speaker 11: of these houses, the Senate in the House rather most
Speaker 11: of them really don't want to continue this way.
Speaker 10: They don't want to be in an endless death match.
Speaker 11: All right, They'd like to be able to work together,
Speaker 11: but they're kind of held out. This may be the
Speaker 11: pathway there. So that's one thing I want to point out.
Speaker 11: The second thing I want to point out this was
Speaker 11: something said by my new favorite congress person, Representative Nazi.
Speaker 11: That's Nazy cum Hell or high Water Mace. Okay, she's
Speaker 11: my new favorite member. There's going to be more hearings,
Speaker 11: you bet there are, okay, which means more witnesses are
Speaker 11: going to have a chance to speak. There's at least
Speaker 11: forty to fifty that have come forward in various ways.
Speaker 11: But there's one group of witnesses that has basically been
Speaker 11: shut out, and there's reasons for this, and we're going
Speaker 11: to do everything we can to get those witnesses before
Speaker 11: the coming hearings.
Speaker 10: And who am I referring to?
Speaker 11: I am referring to the men who started coming forward
Speaker 11: thirty years ago, who were serving at Sack Basis, some
Speaker 11: of them commanders in the silos with the responsibility and ability,
Speaker 11: given the right codes from the president to turn the
Speaker 11: keys that would launch nuclear.
Speaker 10: Missiles and destroy whole countries.
Speaker 11: They started coming forward to talk about the fact that
Speaker 11: our missiles were being shut down by craft huvering over
Speaker 11: the base, not once, not twice, but many times.
Speaker 10: Some of the most important wisness you can imagine.
Speaker 11: In fact, they're so important that the government said, you're
Speaker 11: too strong, too much, We just want to keep you away,
Speaker 11: and they just ignored them. And every effort they have
Speaker 11: made in those years has failed to get them in
Speaker 11: front of a hearing that has got to all right.
Speaker 11: And so the next person that I'm going to introduce
Speaker 11: you to is the leader of those individuals, along with
Speaker 11: Robert Hastings particularly, who has done everything he can documentary
Speaker 11: three books, press conference in Washington, d C. To try
Speaker 11: to get this issue before Congress that these things shut
Speaker 11: our missiles down, but they let us turn them back on.
Speaker 11: And so I want to introduce you today, Captain Robert Salas.
Speaker 4: Yep, sorry, let me mind you up right. Six.
Speaker 6: Thank you Steve, Steve, you're one of my heroes. I'll
Speaker 6: tell you that I first met Steve about twenty five
Speaker 6: years ago something like that, and he's invited me multiple
Speaker 6: times to his conferences here in Washington, d C. With
Speaker 6: the help of mister Hastings, we organized other conferences and
Speaker 6: I've done my own, but he's right thirty years ago
Speaker 6: thanks to Moufon. By the way, Moufon was the first
Speaker 6: group I turned to after I told my wife my
Speaker 6: story where I went public. I went public through a
Speaker 6: Moufon investigator who helped me request of the Air Force
Speaker 6: information about one of these incidents, which I thought was
Speaker 6: mine at the time. It turned out it wasn't mine.
Speaker 6: It was another incident which I wasn't really aware of,
Speaker 6: but it happened very similar circumstances, and that was what
Speaker 6: I called the Echo Flight incident. It happened on March sixteenth,
Speaker 6: nineteen sixty seven, and.
Speaker 4: Later realized it mine.
Speaker 6: Happened March twenty fourth, nineteen sixty seven, just eight days
Speaker 6: or later.
Speaker 7: UH.
Speaker 6: In addition, as I did more research and with the
Speaker 6: help of move On investigators, UH, and we acquired more information,
Speaker 6: more data from the Air Force UH.
Speaker 4: That they declassified.
Speaker 6: Let's be unbeknownst to them that this was about UFOs,
Speaker 6: because when we submitted the Foyer request, we said nothing
Speaker 6: about UFOs. But UH they started sending us a documentation
Speaker 6: after they declassified that first incident, and then I was
Speaker 6: able to UH make contact with other witnesses, et cetera.
Speaker 6: And as Steve said, a lot of those witnesses have
Speaker 6: been reluctant to come forward because they're afraid of consequences
Speaker 6: of stating what they know. UH. I myself signed a
Speaker 6: non disclosure agreement.
Speaker 4: UH.
Speaker 6: I went public on They thought that I could go
Speaker 6: public because I was receiving information about my incident, but
Speaker 6: I was mistaken. It was not my incident, and so
Speaker 6: but I decided to continue to speak out because of
Speaker 6: the importance and the need for the public to know.
Speaker 6: I think it's let me just summarize. Within the span
Speaker 6: of six months, thirty nuclear missiles were disabled by UFO
Speaker 6: objects thirty and not enough has been made of this publicly.
Speaker 6: I haven't seen this as a headline in any report.
Speaker 4: But my purpose.
Speaker 6: Is to inform the public on these incidents and others,
Speaker 6: to get those witnesses to come forward. I know many
Speaker 6: of them. I've got their phone number, addresses, et cetera,
Speaker 6: and I'd be happy to see them be invited to
Speaker 6: another hearing as well as myself. So I'm here for
Speaker 6: the duration. Believe me, I'll be here as long as
Speaker 6: I can stand and talk.
Speaker 10: Thank you, Oh thanks.
Speaker 1: When the when the UFO turned off the nuclear weapons
Speaker 1: that you were managing, what what was going through your head?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: What kind of messages that said the human race?
Speaker 6: Uh? Well that's two questions.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 6: My initial thought is that we were under some sort
Speaker 6: of an attack because of the reaction of the security
Speaker 6: guards upstairs. They had. We had about six guards upstairs,
Speaker 6: all pointing their weapon at this object is at Hubbard
Speaker 6: over our facility, and uh a man in charge upstairs,
Speaker 6: the main security guard was going natzius, shouting into the
Speaker 6: phone and very frightened. I was certain we were under
Speaker 6: some sort of an attack. However, after researching the subject
Speaker 6: for like I say, almost thirty years, I've come to
Speaker 6: the conclusion because there have been so many, and not
Speaker 6: only in our country, but in other countries of these
Speaker 6: types of incidents. I think this was more of a
Speaker 6: message from uh, let's let's just say it, extraterrestrial entities
Speaker 6: or non human intelligence, that we are very being, very,
Speaker 6: very foolish in holding these weapons of massive, massive destruction,
Speaker 6: and possibly I would engage in using them again, which
Speaker 6: would simply destroy every living thing on earth. And as
Speaker 6: you see, the threats of nuclear war even today are
Speaker 6: still with us. We shouldn't have to live under that
Speaker 6: kind of a threat. So the public does need to
Speaker 6: know this emphatically and give guidance to our government as
Speaker 6: to what to do about it, and not allow the
Speaker 6: government simply to decide this is another enemy and we'll
Speaker 6: shoot him down every opportunity we get. Okay, you bet.
Speaker 3: I just want to make a comment to underscore what.
Speaker 4: Bob just said.
Speaker 2: In the following way, Robert Oppenheimer.
Speaker 3: Reported that when the Trinity test site happened, he saw
Speaker 3: orbs in the sky and that the UFO phenomenon really
Speaker 3: was ignited there in New Mexico.
Speaker 2: And the people from.
Speaker 3: All over the world that have reported some kind of
Speaker 3: intelligible communication with the extraterrestrials, with the non human intelligences,
Speaker 3: almost universally report that they've been warning us that the
Speaker 3: development of nuclear weapons technology is a danger to ourselves,
Speaker 3: it's a danger to the larger planetary ecosystem, and it's
Speaker 3: destabilizing the harmony at least of our quadrant of the galaxy.
Speaker 2: And I think it's worth noting.
Speaker 3: That according to the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, the atomic
Speaker 3: clock started back in the late forties and early fifties
Speaker 3: by Einstein and Bertrand Russell and others who were concerned
Speaker 3: about the prospect of nuclear war. We are now at
Speaker 3: ninety seconds to midnight, according to those who understand these matters,
Speaker 3: were closer to a nuclear weapons exchange now than at
Speaker 3: any time in the history of the nuclear age, including
Speaker 3: the nineteen sixty two Cuban missile crisis. It should be
Speaker 3: of no surprise, therefore, that the frequency of UFO sightings
Speaker 3: and one of the comments made the hearing that they
Speaker 3: seem to be getting bolder. This isn't a coincidence. I
Speaker 3: think we're at a moment where we teeter on the
Speaker 3: brink of self destruction in many ways, including climate change,
Speaker 3: and the non human intelligencers are here, I believe ultimately
Speaker 3: to catalyze the awakening of humanity. And that's the reason
Speaker 3: why the New Paradigm Institute and MOFON are focusing certainly,
Speaker 3: for sure as we have today on government disclosure, but
Speaker 3: ultimately on citizen activism and citizen empowerment around the world.
Speaker 2: Because it is at that level that this is.
Speaker 3: Going to be adjudicated and resolved when the people of
Speaker 3: the world, en Moss, both compelled disclosure but establish their
Speaker 3: own relationships with these non human intelligences in an intelligible way.
Speaker 2: So, Bob, I just want to salute you for decades
Speaker 2: of service. And here's a man in contradistinction.
Speaker 3: To the hiding behind the NDAs that we just saw
Speaker 3: in the Congress.
Speaker 2: That didn't do that.
Speaker 4: He didn't do that.
Speaker 3: My friends, and we ought to all just acknowledge that
Speaker 3: courage and.
Speaker 2: Fortitude, right, and the others as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there have been there had been many, many
Speaker 3: others as well. But it's just since we heard so
Speaker 3: much hiding today, we should salute the courage that steps
Speaker 3: out of those shadows and simply tells the truth.
Speaker 2: Because humanity has the right to know.
Speaker 3: I'd like to now introduce our final speaker, Julia Mossbridge,
Speaker 3: who's been dealing in the area of the paraphenomenal and consciousness.
Speaker 3: She's the founder and director of the moss Bridge Institute,
Speaker 3: and she's doing seriously interesting.
Speaker 2: Stuff on this matter of the paraphenomenal.
Speaker 8: Julie, thank you. Can you make this happen?
Speaker 9: I can.
Speaker 6: So to step up right about here?
Speaker 8: I don't want to what about there? Hi, everybody. I
Speaker 8: guess my job is just to give my reflections on
Speaker 8: the hearing. So as a scientist and as my family
Speaker 8: has been touched by the progress of science and controversial
Speaker 8: or edge science for as long as I've been alive.
Speaker 8: My father was a theoretical physicist at Argon National Lab.
Speaker 8: My mother worked at Gifted and Talented Education. Their parents
Speaker 8: were working for the Apartment of Energy. So this is
Speaker 8: like a family affair, and and that's part of why
Speaker 8: it matters to me. It also matters to me because
Speaker 8: I love science and what mister Gold said in the
Speaker 8: hearing today about that that the ecosystem of I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 8: but that the ecosystem of scientists said, NASA really requires
Speaker 8: more transparency about the data and more data it's themselves
Speaker 8: to work with, I think is really powerful. And then
Speaker 8: when congress person started getting really philosophical. Did you hear
Speaker 8: the congress person who went over time and said, oh,
Speaker 8: she's not looking and he said what about Coonian Revolution?
Speaker 8: Like he didn't really explain his terms, but I just
Speaker 8: want to say what he was trying to say. What
Speaker 8: I think he was trying to say is that Thomas Kuhn,
Speaker 8: who wrote the Structure of Scientific Revolution, talked about how
Speaker 8: these edge cases, these anomalous phenomena that we cannot currently
Speaker 8: explain under the umbrella of our current theories, are really
Speaker 8: important in pointing us towards what might be true. So
Speaker 8: whatever's not fitting with your current theory is like a
Speaker 8: little hint from the universe about, hey, there's something here that.
Speaker 4: You don't understand.
Speaker 8: And that's edge science is understanding those anomalist phenomena and
Speaker 8: they conclude UAP. They include consciousness phenomena such as survival
Speaker 8: of death, telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition, psychokinesis, mediumship.
Speaker 4: They these kind of space time.
Speaker 8: Navigation systems that we don't understand. They include technologically advanced
Speaker 8: energy that we don't understand, and so what has been created.
Speaker 8: I think what he was saying is this scientific revolution
Speaker 8: has been stopped in its tracks because we've been discouraged
Speaker 8: from looking at these edge cases, these anomalous phenomena because
Speaker 8: of the stigma, but also because they sort of might
Speaker 8: maybe leave somewhere that's important and then maybe we're not.
Speaker 4: Supposed to get to.
Speaker 8: And it has created this ecosystem that's split. So you
Speaker 8: have the ecosystem on the one hand of the scientists
Speaker 8: at national labs who are working in this very rarefied
Speaker 8: space that have access to this information, and an ecosystem
Speaker 8: on the other hand at regular academic institutions and at
Speaker 8: maybe several companies that don't know that information and have
Speaker 8: been taught that, in fact, that information is a mark
Speaker 8: of someone being crazy, or a mark of someone being
Speaker 8: after something, some kind of an agenda. In other words,
Speaker 8: they've been taught to shame and blame anyone who works.
Speaker 4: With that information.
Speaker 8: So there's a it's a cultural thing that you're taught
Speaker 8: in graduate school explicitly to have a knee jerk reaction
Speaker 8: to those kind of things. At all the Tier one
Speaker 8: research institutions that get millions of dollars of federal funding,
Speaker 8: and so there's been this cultural split and it has
Speaker 8: to come together. And so in the world of science,
Speaker 8: there's this healing that needs to be done, just like
Speaker 8: in the world of politics, where these two branches have
Speaker 8: to come together so that Kunyan revolution can happen and
Speaker 8: we can look at those edge cases. And so I'm
Speaker 8: just gonna one of the things I was thinking about,
Speaker 8: and I hope it's okay that I plug this. I
Speaker 8: have an article in the Debrief, not written by me,
Speaker 8: but about my efforts on Monday about rise SO research
Speaker 8: and innovation at the scientific edge, which is something that
Speaker 8: I brought to Rant Corporation and had a conversation with
Speaker 8: them about it, and they said, this is too controversial,
Speaker 8: this idea of destigmatizing this stuff. We would need the
Speaker 8: White House to tell us this was okay, and I
Speaker 8: said okay. Then I went to DARPA and I said,
Speaker 8: what about this, and I said, too controversial, We would
Speaker 8: probably need the White House to I'm like, so I'm
Speaker 8: going to the White House and I want to develop
Speaker 8: an office in the Executive Office of the President, which
Speaker 8: is the same office that created the Race to the Moon,
Speaker 8: so it can very effectively with very people sort of
Speaker 8: from the bully pulpit, say like we are changing our
Speaker 8: attitude about edge science and technology and make public private
Speaker 8: partnerships that actually work towards and actually faith based institutions
Speaker 8: and nonprofits and small business that actually work towards healing
Speaker 8: this rift. So that's my I hope it's okay that
Speaker 8: I plug that.
Speaker 10: Thank you, thank you,
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