ROBERT SALAS EXPOSES SHOCKING UFO ENCOUNTER AT NUCLEAR MISSILE FACILITY TO CONGRESSWOMAN NANCY MACE

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0:55 Speaker 1: today we have a little bit of an unorthodox show.

0:59 Speaker 1: I know everybody's here. We are here to talk and

1:02 Speaker 1: see the Captain Robert Salas brief, Nancy Mays. Now, Steve

1:08 Speaker 1: Bassett was there with me. I had got this meeting

1:12 Speaker 1: after the UAP hearings. I almost forgot my headphones. Now

1:17 Speaker 1: I had lined up a couple of interviews when I

1:21 Speaker 1: went out for the UAP hearings after being invited by

1:24 Speaker 1: Congressman Burchett, and when I got there, a couple of

1:28 Speaker 1: days before I got there, actually I had talked with

1:32 Speaker 1: a couple people and decided that I'd put my ego

1:36 Speaker 1: aside and instead of asking Nancy May's questions about the

1:41 Speaker 1: UAP hearing, I would bring Captain Robert Sallas who had

1:47 Speaker 1: an incident fifty years ago in nineteen sixty seven at

1:51 Speaker 1: Malster Mair Force Malmster Air Force Base and where UFO

1:55 Speaker 1: shut down ten nuclear weapons. And these weapons are and

2:00 Speaker 1: they are not connected to each other, so if one

2:03 Speaker 1: goes down, they do not all go down. However, in

2:06 Speaker 1: this case they were all rendered at least for the

2:11 Speaker 1: time being inoperable. Now the following clip is of that

2:17 Speaker 1: closed door meeting. It is our goal and our hopeful

2:21 Speaker 1: inevitable future to get Captain Robert Salles to testify in

2:25 Speaker 1: front of Congress. So people ask me why I did it,

2:30 Speaker 1: Why it's important. It's important because these are the stories

2:35 Speaker 1: that if a congress person hears that a UFO or

2:41 Speaker 1: a craft of some kind that is not human human made,

2:46 Speaker 1: was able to shut down our most aggressive our most

2:52 Speaker 1: powerful weapons, then the implications of it and everything surrounding it.

2:59 Speaker 1: If it doesn't mean make your stomach churn after hearing

3:02 Speaker 1: Robert Salas's testimony, then you probably shouldn't be in Congress

3:05 Speaker 1: or the Senate or any government position for that matter.

3:10 Speaker 1: So I am going to be joined today by my

3:12 Speaker 1: friend Bryce, who I met at the AAP hearing. Hi.

3:15 Speaker 2: Bryce, Hi Tyler, thank you so much for having me

3:18 Speaker 2: on here. Man. You know I'm passionate about the topic

3:20 Speaker 2: and this this is just over the moon for me.

3:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you I have you on. So after

3:27 Speaker 1: the clip, you and I will kind of break down

3:28 Speaker 1: some stuff, talk about our experience at the hearing. But

3:32 Speaker 1: I did want to just get you in here and

3:34 Speaker 1: say how say hi, say hello to everybody before we

3:37 Speaker 1: got started. It's a twenty minute video which I will

3:40 Speaker 1: release separately from this video so that it'll be out

3:44 Speaker 1: there in the ether separately. But are you ready?

3:48 Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, Let's get into it.

3:50 Speaker 1: All right, And again, this is a this is a

3:51 Speaker 1: really really really if this is you know, one of

3:55 Speaker 1: the small things that you know I can do for

3:59 Speaker 1: the a FOE community and the Disclosure effort is facilitate

4:03 Speaker 1: these types of conversations. Uh, then I'm happy I found

4:07 Speaker 1: my place? Did you find yours? And I'm gonna keep

4:10 Speaker 1: asking that to the audience because I think more people

4:12 Speaker 1: in the FOE community. I think you need to find

4:14 Speaker 1: your place and and what you can help, what you

4:18 Speaker 1: can do to to get the ball moving forward instead

4:22 Speaker 1: of just being on X all day.

4:24 Speaker 3: Really yes, they told me, I don't worry, don't worry

4:28 Speaker 3: about you.

4:28 Speaker 1: I'm going to start it over.

4:37 Speaker 4: My staff will if I asked them about it there.

4:38 Speaker 4: Really I have a great here. Well we just had

4:42 Speaker 4: I just had, you know, election to go, and they

4:45 Speaker 4: took a week.

4:46 Speaker 5: Off to come down and help anything I wanted.

4:49 Speaker 4: So I just give answer fantastic, get everything rolling. I

4:55 Speaker 4: just want you guys to be prepared. I gave you

4:58 Speaker 4: the basic brief boat.

4:58 Speaker 5: Yes, I got a basic Okay, great?

5:02 Speaker 3: Uh well, uh, I want you to know that I

5:04 Speaker 3: gave a presentation to Errow in February of twenty twenty three.

5:10 Speaker 6: Really okay, And they also uh exonerated me if that's

5:15 Speaker 6: the sort of were from my NDA which I had.

5:19 Speaker 6: So really yes, they told me, I don't worry, don't

5:23 Speaker 6: worry about your NDA.

5:24 Speaker 5: Just tell us what you know.

5:26 Speaker 3: Uh huh and UH I got a letter from stating

5:31 Speaker 3: that my uh story that I gave them is now

5:36 Speaker 3: an official record, historical record in.

5:40 Speaker 5: The Arrow archives.

5:41 Speaker 3: So I don't know if you can get access to that,

5:44 Speaker 3: but it's was.

5:45 Speaker 7: It in the report at all that they put together

5:48 Speaker 7: this year? M No, So it's a big thing that

5:50 Speaker 7: they left out.

5:51 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, big thing they left out.

5:52 Speaker 4: Okay, so it it's truly just that reported me totally discounted.

5:55 Speaker 5: It's correct, yes, yeah.

5:57 Speaker 3: In fact, my last question after I gave my presentation

6:02 Speaker 3: was are you gonna check with the Air Force to verify.

6:06 Speaker 5: Any part of my story?

6:08 Speaker 3: And they said no mm, because they had tried to

6:12 Speaker 3: verify a previous account that was the uh Robert Jacobs.

6:18 Speaker 5: I don't know if you're familiar with that story.

6:19 Speaker 3: He was UH stationed Vandenburg Air Force Base UH with

6:23 Speaker 3: a very uh.

6:25 Speaker 5: Advanced camera video camera, and he shot.

6:29 Speaker 3: A video of a test flight of Ammy warhead. It

6:33 Speaker 3: was on an Atlas missile UH on the Pacific Test Range.

6:37 Speaker 8: And UH so the Demmy warhead leaves the final stage

6:45 Speaker 8: and is flying towards its so called target and test area,

6:50 Speaker 8: and the UFO comes over and fires.

6:54 Speaker 5: Uh, the laser really at at this dummy warhead.

6:59 Speaker 9: Uh.

7:00 Speaker 5: In fact, it flew circle around this where it was going.

7:05 Speaker 4: But he got video of this.

7:06 Speaker 5: He's got a video of it.

7:08 Speaker 4: Really it is in the public It.

7:10 Speaker 3: Was confiscated by the CIA, but this is actual video.

7:17 Speaker 5: And his commander saw it.

7:19 Speaker 3: They they both saw it together in front of these

7:24 Speaker 3: members of the CIA. Right after that they took the

7:28 Speaker 3: film and.

7:30 Speaker 5: Who knows where it is? Well they else.

7:31 Speaker 10: I told him this, this never happened. You won't ever

7:33 Speaker 10: speak of that.

7:35 Speaker 4: Did he sign did he sign a document? Was he

7:37 Speaker 4: forced to sign a doctor?

7:38 Speaker 3: He did not sign a do And he's come for

7:42 Speaker 3: the Acadams you have. He's available, by the way, could

7:46 Speaker 3: be a witness, okay. Uh oh, So I wanted you

7:50 Speaker 3: to know that I have spoken to Earth.

7:53 Speaker 5: I have also left it out of the report.

7:56 Speaker 4: Is anyone like surprised here?

7:57 Speaker 11: Like I just the federal government and ever ceases to

8:01 Speaker 11: amaze me what they do, like the disinformation, the propaganda,

8:05 Speaker 11: the misinformation just completely Yeah, you know, left it out.

8:11 Speaker 4: It doesn't fit their narrative.

8:13 Speaker 3: But I've got all that documentation. If you wanted any

8:17 Speaker 3: of it, I'd be happy provide it to you. Plus,

8:20 Speaker 3: I've got a complete recording of my interview with Errow,

8:24 Speaker 3: and I told them I was going to record it.

8:26 Speaker 5: They did not object.

8:28 Speaker 3: Really, I was not under any kind of uh, don't

8:32 Speaker 3: say anything to anybody about this, nothing like that.

8:35 Speaker 5: Didn't testify.

8:37 Speaker 4: You're happy about your driver, You're happy.

8:40 Speaker 1: And yeah.

8:44 Speaker 10: About how many right now?

8:46 Speaker 4: That's I can't believe you did that. That's pretty amazing.

8:49 Speaker 5: I wanted to do a station. I wanted to have

8:51 Speaker 5: a record.

8:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's brilliant, that's brilliant.

8:55 Speaker 5: Thank you.

8:56 Speaker 10: But now he needs to do the same thing before Congress.

8:59 Speaker 12: How many nuclear weapons tampering of witnesses?

9:04 Speaker 5: Okay, you have access to.

9:06 Speaker 3: They could testify, Okay, in uh September of nineteen sixty six.

9:11 Speaker 3: But there was a similar incident to mine at Minot

9:15 Speaker 3: Air Force Base, North Dakota. The witness was Dave Schability.

9:20 Speaker 3: Uh and he's still alive. I spoke to him last week.

9:24 Speaker 3: We had the breakfast and uh uh, he's more than

9:27 Speaker 3: willing to testify. Yah.

9:29 Speaker 4: And what year was yours?

9:30 Speaker 5: Mine was sixty seven?

9:32 Speaker 3: Okay, And there was another one in sixty seven, just

9:34 Speaker 3: eight days earlier, So within the span.

9:37 Speaker 7: Of six same location or a different location, different location,

9:41 Speaker 7: different location.

9:42 Speaker 5: That witness is still alive. Also, his name was uh

9:46 Speaker 5: Colonel Walter Fiegel, and.

9:49 Speaker 3: He uh, as far as I know, he's still a

9:52 Speaker 3: lot and well m about Jacobs's lives?

9:54 Speaker 5: What four about Jacobs? Just a lot a lot of well.

9:59 Speaker 3: All of us could te let's see uh so at any rate.

10:05 Speaker 3: Within a span of six months, UFOs disabled thirty thirty

10:13 Speaker 3: nuclear missiles in our inventory within six months, and we've

10:19 Speaker 3: got the witnesses to show it. I've got documentation I

10:23 Speaker 3: provide them.

10:24 Speaker 4: Should find the witnesses. How did you stumble upon them?

10:26 Speaker 5: Or find them?

10:27 Speaker 4: They found me really because you told your story.

10:30 Speaker 3: I told my story publicly first in nineteen ninety four

10:34 Speaker 3: ninety six, I went on a art Bell show.

10:37 Speaker 5: I don't know if you've ever heard of art Bell

10:40 Speaker 5: Coast to coast, but.

10:43 Speaker 4: I was dropping out of high school during that time.

10:47 Speaker 4: You have another thing focused on another thing, like.

10:49 Speaker 5: The progress it was me.

10:51 Speaker 4: I never went to oh dropped down?

10:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And so as a reason opened that interview

11:01 Speaker 3: that I gave in nineteen ninety six.

11:04 Speaker 5: Uh I received uh contexts by.

11:08 Speaker 3: Many supporting witnesses, including Robert Jennison. Still a lot of

11:14 Speaker 3: sports I know who can validate the fact that all

11:17 Speaker 3: ten my whistles went down.

11:19 Speaker 4: You verified these were all Octaviuty Service with their DD

11:21 Speaker 4: two fourteen.

11:22 Speaker 3: It's all that we all got D two fourteenth. We've

11:24 Speaker 3: got Affi Davids. I think uh Steve provided them.

11:27 Speaker 10: They're floating around or something.

11:29 Speaker 4: Well there here somewhere apparently, and I will ask my staff.

11:31 Speaker 12: But there's a whole other set of witnesses we don't

11:34 Speaker 12: have access to, but they're out there, and these are

11:37 Speaker 12: the service guys.

11:38 Speaker 10: These weren't officers.

11:39 Speaker 5: They were off the top. These are the ones that

11:41 Speaker 5: saw the UAP and.

11:42 Speaker 10: They're running around like crazy, pointing.

11:44 Speaker 1: Guns at As soon as that event was over, they

11:47 Speaker 1: signed these guys.

11:48 Speaker 5: But all over the world just made them disperse a.

11:50 Speaker 3: Lot of them to Vietnam because they were all weapons trained, uh,

11:54 Speaker 3: and they wanted to disperse them.

11:56 Speaker 5: And that's how air Force operates.

11:59 Speaker 3: UH time an incident like this happens, they try to

12:02 Speaker 3: disperse people.

12:03 Speaker 12: Set them all and they were younger and they had

12:05 Speaker 12: families and comfortable, so they don't talk to each other.

12:09 Speaker 10: But he might Now if the word got out, well

12:11 Speaker 10: think for a reason.

12:13 Speaker 4: Can you tell Nancy the feeling that you got when

12:19 Speaker 4: the nukes.

12:19 Speaker 1: Went down, when when they went into nog Uh what

12:23 Speaker 1: message did that send to you once you had compiled

12:26 Speaker 1: the evidence of what happened.

12:28 Speaker 5: Okay, again, that's two questions.

12:30 Speaker 4: First, I did feel what it happened your mind.

12:33 Speaker 3: Immediately like we were under attack because of the second

12:39 Speaker 3: call from a security guard upstairs. He was screaming into

12:44 Speaker 3: the phone. He was very frightened, he was battling. It

12:47 Speaker 3: couldn't make sense out of what he was saying.

12:50 Speaker 5: You coming down, he had only guards.

12:53 Speaker 3: He had six hundred guards up there, and their weapons

12:57 Speaker 3: were pointed at this object. Uh. Basically, I think he

13:02 Speaker 3: wanted me to tell him to go ahead and fire

13:04 Speaker 3: this thing.

13:05 Speaker 5: I didn't say that.

13:06 Speaker 3: What I said was make sure the facility is secure and.

13:10 Speaker 5: Nothing comes in. Uh. I it was really his job.

13:15 Speaker 5: His job was security. So if he wants to fire

13:19 Speaker 5: that thing, go right ahead.

13:21 Speaker 4: Are those those sarsonnel still with us today?

13:25 Speaker 5: Who knows? I'm younger, so probably they have not come

13:28 Speaker 5: to me. Okay, But if yeah, you know, it's very certain.

13:35 Speaker 3: That they have immunity from any kind of an NBA

13:37 Speaker 3: or oath that they took they might comfort.

13:41 Speaker 5: I know another gentleman who.

13:46 Speaker 3: Uh brought another uh Miniman one missile back up on

13:53 Speaker 3: the word.

13:55 Speaker 5: After it was shut down by this UFO. And again

13:58 Speaker 5: that was.

13:58 Speaker 3: The Echo flight incident that happened in March sixteen at

14:01 Speaker 3: Nobston Air Force And what he did was he.

14:06 Speaker 5: Went down, Uh, we've got a little maintenance bag.

14:10 Speaker 3: He started going through his checklist of getting the missile

14:13 Speaker 3: back up a work status and go and behold a

14:18 Speaker 3: UFO or uh this was an orange uh ob jake

14:25 Speaker 3: covered right above him, and the guard upstairs asking him

14:32 Speaker 3: to come up and look at it. And he saw

14:35 Speaker 3: it uh right above him. Uh, and he told the

14:39 Speaker 3: guard to report it, and but he had to come

14:42 Speaker 3: back and finish his job. So he started going through

14:45 Speaker 3: his checklist and he'd get to a certain point in

14:48 Speaker 3: his checklist and missle we shut down.

14:51 Speaker 5: Mm.

14:53 Speaker 3: Well he tried again, and I was going through his

14:56 Speaker 3: standard procedure of checklist get to that exact same point,

15:01 Speaker 3: and this was shut it down. Well of this outdate

15:03 Speaker 3: was still above him. Yeah, he said, he tried.

15:07 Speaker 5: This many many times, the same thing he happened, and.

15:11 Speaker 3: He felt they were demonstrating to him that they knew

15:15 Speaker 3: exactly how our systems were.

15:19 Speaker 5: Exactly and then it makes sense.

15:22 Speaker 12: So what was the metal and he's can he and

15:24 Speaker 12: he put the he put the thing back on on church.

15:26 Speaker 5: Yeah, he got it back up all over again.

15:28 Speaker 1: So if if, if there was a message that was

15:31 Speaker 1: being sent to the human rights.

15:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, what was that? So the message?

15:35 Speaker 3: I think because these incidents had happened not only in

15:38 Speaker 3: the US but overseas.

15:41 Speaker 7: UH.

15:41 Speaker 3: I in my latest book, I outlined and told the

15:46 Speaker 3: stories of UH about thirteen similar incidents that.

15:51 Speaker 5: Happened all over the world, including Russia.

15:57 Speaker 3: And in none of those incidents was any s significant

16:01 Speaker 3: damage done to the weapon system the I in in

16:04 Speaker 3: our case at now streaming UH there was no equipment,

16:09 Speaker 3: it was fried, nothing, it was damaged. It was simply

16:12 Speaker 3: it intermittent UH electrical pulps that was given to a

16:16 Speaker 3: particular part of the guidance system the missile called the

16:21 Speaker 3: logic coupler.

16:22 Speaker 5: This was proven by Boeing.

16:25 Speaker 3: Boeing did a bench test on this so called logic coupler,

16:29 Speaker 3: which is part of.

16:30 Speaker 5: The navigation or a guidance system of the missile.

16:35 Speaker 3: Without that piece of equipment working properly, the navigation system

16:40 Speaker 3: and the guidance system would not properly work.

16:44 Speaker 5: So the missile shut itself down. That's all it happened. Yeah,

16:49 Speaker 5: there was no damage.

16:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, the missiles were all brought up back upon the

16:53 Speaker 3: work within about twenty four hours.

16:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what's time?

16:57 Speaker 3: And that to me, that says they were sinks a

17:00 Speaker 3: message about why?

17:03 Speaker 4: What's the message.

17:06 Speaker 10: W t F.

17:09 Speaker 5: Nuclear weapons? Sorry said something wrong? This is congress woman based.

17:19 Speaker 5: That's good.

17:19 Speaker 10: You can do that.

17:21 Speaker 4: Drop them to the bottom. We don't use acronyms here,

17:24 Speaker 4: how about that?

17:24 Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's what I think. Of course, it's just

17:29 Speaker 5: my opinion. By the way, when you.

17:32 Speaker 12: And bobst wrote the masterpiece book uphos and News, he

17:35 Speaker 12: wrote it, okay, all right, you.

17:37 Speaker 5: Helped obviously with it.

17:38 Speaker 10: Great and so after that book did did that bring to.

17:41 Speaker 12: Some people contact you after the book came out because

17:43 Speaker 12: he got ready his things book was.

17:48 Speaker 3: Brought me Robert Jacobs. There is no question about the

17:54 Speaker 3: fact that UFO shut shut down all time of.

17:59 Speaker 5: One missiles at Oscar flight. More it's twenty fourth if

18:02 Speaker 5: you'd seen seven, absolutely not. Yeah, uh and uh the

18:07 Speaker 5: echo flight was uh.

18:10 Speaker 3: I Again, we've got a couple of witnesses the commander.

18:14 Speaker 3: Did the commander echo flight have confirmed the same story.

18:20 Speaker 3: The UFOs were seen over the sights before Varus was

18:24 Speaker 3: shut down.

18:25 Speaker 7: All ten, okay, let me use I think it was fascinating,

18:34 Speaker 7: so truly.

18:35 Speaker 4: How big were the objects in the sky?

18:38 Speaker 5: What's that?

18:39 Speaker 4: How big were the uh?

18:40 Speaker 5: Uh forty or fifty feet?

18:41 Speaker 4: That was hard to tell because there was it at night.

18:44 Speaker 3: There were bright lights at night. Uh it was hard

18:47 Speaker 3: to see inside the light. The light was pulsating.

18:52 Speaker 4: What color lights were?

18:53 Speaker 5: Reddish? Orange? Is what I was told. Uh So.

19:00 Speaker 3: Again, my ask, if we had to ask, was uh

19:04 Speaker 3: uh we would? I think we could all forward us

19:08 Speaker 3: at least well, welcome the opportunity to tell this in

19:13 Speaker 3: front of congression hearing.

19:18 Speaker 5: I think it needs to be public.

19:20 Speaker 12: And it's also the case that if in fact the

19:22 Speaker 12: congressional hearing was scheduled and it was known that we

19:25 Speaker 12: they were very un much much interested in in such

19:28 Speaker 12: people testified, where it was really gonna make a difference.

19:31 Speaker 10: I have a feeling a number of people we don't

19:33 Speaker 10: even know about, with the credentials it's gonna turn out

19:35 Speaker 10: and say in this case, I'm willing.

19:37 Speaker 7: To comfort Yeah, that's interesting and awful with my staff

19:41 Speaker 7: to if you send information, find out you know where

19:43 Speaker 7: it is that they can brief me on it.

19:45 Speaker 4: I've been traveling. You would have been crazy last seven days.

19:49 Speaker 4: This is our first week back.

19:50 Speaker 7: So it's super crazy with reorganizing uh the Congress and

19:53 Speaker 7: everything for the next session.

19:55 Speaker 4: But awful with my staff shoot to look at the

19:57 Speaker 4: documents and affidavits you provided.

19:59 Speaker 7: I I am more fascinated and confused now than ever

20:02 Speaker 7: because it's just so.

20:03 Speaker 4: Much welcome to our world.

20:05 Speaker 7: Well, I know, I'm now on Reddit, uh, you know,

20:08 Speaker 7: and and there's you know, UFO, Twitter and you.

20:11 Speaker 4: Know all the but their reporters. Now, I didn't know

20:12 Speaker 4: Schellenberger until this hearing, and now I studied up on

20:17 Speaker 4: Holy Cow. He had multiple witness, multiple sources, you know.

20:21 Speaker 7: And then we talked about private contractors today and injuries

20:24 Speaker 7: that people you know have have received based on a

20:27 Speaker 7: crash root chiebo program we've been told doesn't exist. So

20:29 Speaker 7: it's just, you know, the math doesn't add up. They're

20:31 Speaker 7: hiding something from us, and so what all and it's

20:34 Speaker 7: extensive and how much are we spending on this?

20:36 Speaker 5: And so?

20:37 Speaker 7: And then who all's involved? And how are they screwting

20:39 Speaker 7: the law Title ten and all those things. So it's

20:41 Speaker 7: been highly illuminating an educational for me.

20:44 Speaker 12: We heard a rumor that there was an attempt to

20:47 Speaker 12: Larry stop you're hearing all that.

20:48 Speaker 10: We heard the rumor too over over macular constellation.

20:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, we heard a rumor too. I don't know. I

20:56 Speaker 4: was like, I'm holding hearing no matter what if it's

20:58 Speaker 4: like in my office.

21:00 Speaker 5: Are we contacted about you? No?

21:01 Speaker 7: I was not directly contacted, but we've heard the rumor also. Okay,

21:03 Speaker 7: all right, yeah, So I'm gonna ask.

21:06 Speaker 5: You just one thing.

21:09 Speaker 13: With people like and Bob Jacobs and those stories being

21:15 Speaker 13: out there, what would be your next move to get

21:20 Speaker 13: people in front of a hearing?

21:23 Speaker 4: How well sueing what you're doing right now? So sending

21:26 Speaker 4: the documents that you have to my office.

21:29 Speaker 7: I would send them to Burchett's office too, and to

21:33 Speaker 7: Comber's office.

21:34 Speaker 4: He's the chairman of Oversight.

21:36 Speaker 7: I also sit on the House Armed Services Committee, so

21:38 Speaker 7: I think this is interesting.

21:39 Speaker 4: I don't know that.

21:40 Speaker 7: The Chairman of House arm Services would have ever hear

21:43 Speaker 7: in the list, but this is like definitely.

21:44 Speaker 4: House Armed Services. I would love to do it over

21:47 Speaker 4: there if they would let me. Now will they let me?

21:49 Speaker 4: I'm not a chairman over there, not yet.

21:52 Speaker 7: I could you know, if I'm a subcommittee chairman, I

21:54 Speaker 7: can go to the big chairman and say, hey, I'd

21:56 Speaker 7: like to.

21:57 Speaker 4: Do this, because I think it'd be We've.

21:58 Speaker 7: Not had one on housetarm services and this is very

22:01 Speaker 7: military oriented. But always a backstop is oversight as well,

22:06 Speaker 7: dependent upon what the chairman wants. And to do this

22:08 Speaker 7: hearing I have to get I had to get permission

22:10 Speaker 7: from leadership. So I'll look through it. I'll sift through

22:13 Speaker 7: it with my staff and see you can come up

22:15 Speaker 7: with a plan. I mean, I'm fascinated by it. I'm

22:18 Speaker 7: more fascinated now.

22:19 Speaker 4: I have more questions. I mean I could have.

22:20 Speaker 7: Asked questions all night and then I just had Every

22:23 Speaker 7: time someone would answer a question, I add more questions.

22:26 Speaker 4: And you know, so we always have five minutes.

22:28 Speaker 7: It's not a good way that the implications of thing

22:32 Speaker 7: he's saying, Yeah, even if it's a slight possibility, that's something. Well,

22:38 Speaker 7: even if it's our own technology that we haven't identified

22:41 Speaker 7: turning news on and off, it would be huge. I mean,

22:45 Speaker 7: either way, it's like a win win. I love the

22:48 Speaker 7: idea of it. I have to talk with leadership in

22:50 Speaker 7: my committee staff, but it's something that I find you

22:54 Speaker 7: very credible. I look forward to reading what you guys

22:57 Speaker 7: have and putting it together and have my staff. But

22:59 Speaker 7: together it's very interesting and I don't think I think

23:02 Speaker 7: today was a success.

23:03 Speaker 4: So I don't think it stops. If today was a

23:05 Speaker 4: total dud, it'd be over. I mean, if this went no,

23:08 Speaker 4: But there's so much to unpack after today.

23:10 Speaker 7: I don't think people realize the amount of different information

23:15 Speaker 7: that was valuable.

23:15 Speaker 4: You got the documents about AMACT, constellation entered into the record.

23:19 Speaker 7: We talked about crash betrieval programs or versus engineering injuries

23:22 Speaker 7: that people have received at crash sites. So there's just

23:25 Speaker 7: this I have to unpack it all because it was

23:27 Speaker 7: a lot. There was a lot of I think valuable insight.

23:32 Speaker 7: We even talked about which private contractors do submersibles versus

23:36 Speaker 7: doing aeronautics. Yeah, but I mean like we taught actually

23:41 Speaker 7: named contractors.

23:43 Speaker 5: They didn't.

23:43 Speaker 7: We didn't do that last time. So you know, piecing

23:46 Speaker 7: it together it's kind of like a patchwork.

23:47 Speaker 12: Well, and more people will come forward, So I'm going

23:50 Speaker 12: to email Sewan the electronics as well as links to

23:54 Speaker 12: certain materials being.

23:56 Speaker 5: Health with you, I don't get that out by tomorrow.

23:58 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sure nothing here happens fast, but I would

24:03 Speaker 7: love to do ET's and Knicks because I think, I mean,

24:07 Speaker 7: it's it's valid, whether it's art technology or something from

24:10 Speaker 7: out of.

24:11 Speaker 4: This world is huge. And thank you for coming over

24:15 Speaker 4: and enjoy yourself.

24:27 Speaker 1: All right where disappeared? So again, Now that is the

24:36 Speaker 1: closed door briefing that I was able to facilitate with

24:41 Speaker 1: Captain Robert Sallas and UFO activist Steve Bassett, with Nancy Mace,

24:48 Speaker 1: who chaired the hearing on November thirteenth that you and

24:51 Speaker 1: I both attended. How what did you think now that

24:56 Speaker 1: that's part of that that's going to be the final

24:58 Speaker 1: scene in the documentary that I'm making, and I'm some

25:02 Speaker 1: of this stuff at the end I'm gonna chop off

25:05 Speaker 1: and probably won't need. But that was it in its entirety,

25:10 Speaker 1: nothing taken out, nothing inserted, just clean cut. That was the.

25:14 Speaker 2: Interview, you know, Tyler, I think it's very very encouraging.

25:19 Speaker 2: You know. It's like Nancy said herself, if that hearing

25:22 Speaker 2: would have been a dud, probably will have moved on

25:25 Speaker 2: to that next phase where you got the film and

25:27 Speaker 2: you know, have Bob tell his story, right, I think

25:31 Speaker 2: it it. You know, she was very chock full questions,

25:34 Speaker 2: like she said too. And the more we can get this,

25:39 Speaker 2: especially Bob's kind of story with you know, like she

25:42 Speaker 2: said it herself, ets and nukes, I think it's so

25:46 Speaker 2: captivating for even on the individual level to know just

25:52 Speaker 2: how much this this hangs over our head without us knowing.

25:55 Speaker 2: You know that there's a select few that truly know

25:58 Speaker 2: the state of affairs when it comes to our well being,

26:02 Speaker 2: our national security, and how this whole other variable plays into.

26:05 Speaker 1: That, right right, And you know, I think something that

26:10 Speaker 1: I've always been a little bit concerned with his nuclear

26:13 Speaker 1: weapons and are our our teetering society right on the

26:21 Speaker 1: implications of uh of these kind of these kind of weapons.

26:25 Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about uh life ending and or

26:31 Speaker 1: or holocausts, you know, scenarios if those things start flying. So,

26:37 Speaker 1: you know, I think that as a congresswoman, right who

26:41 Speaker 1: had just she had literally now remember not even five

26:46 Speaker 1: hours or eight hours before that, she was in a

26:50 Speaker 1: hearing with the Elizondo Schellenberger. I always forget the NASA

26:57 Speaker 1: guy's name, I uh, and then tended to God at

27:04 Speaker 1: the rear admiral. So this she That interview was at

27:08 Speaker 1: eight o'clock at night and the you know, we had

27:11 Speaker 1: been up since four am that morning in line. So

27:15 Speaker 1: you know Robert Bob at his as beautiful age of

27:20 Speaker 1: I think he's eighty eighty seven. I think he's eighty seven.

27:26 Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but it's it's

27:29 Speaker 1: right around there. I mean, he was a trooper. He

27:33 Speaker 1: didn't eat waiver for a second. And like I'm not

27:37 Speaker 1: kidding you. He was there before me. I got there

27:40 Speaker 1: around like four thirteen am. He was already at the

27:43 Speaker 1: building waiting and then we got in line. Uh. And

27:46 Speaker 1: that's obviously that when I got introduced to you, and

27:49 Speaker 1: then we went through the hearings. I brought some pictures,

27:53 Speaker 1: you know, I know, so I got to we got

27:56 Speaker 1: to meet Ron James.

27:57 Speaker 2: There.

27:57 Speaker 1: This is me and Bob while we were while waiting

28:00 Speaker 1: outside in the cold, it was freezing. Then we're inside

28:04 Speaker 1: there's Danny Shean doing some business. Uh, he's doing the business.

28:09 Speaker 1: But I did get on the outside, which was which

28:12 Speaker 1: was radical. It was it was pretty cool. So you

28:17 Speaker 1: had your own experience and you made your way over

28:21 Speaker 1: to the UFO hearings. I saw you there. What was

28:25 Speaker 1: it like, uh, to to have that be your first

28:29 Speaker 1: experience with the UFO community, because that's wild, I.

28:36 Speaker 2: Would say it was, you know it. It was very

28:40 Speaker 2: refreshing and validating. Validating, I think would be my key word,

28:44 Speaker 2: because you know, this is something you read about online.

28:47 Speaker 2: I've engaged with other people and talked about their sightings

28:49 Speaker 2: my sightings online and you know, it's nice to shoot

28:53 Speaker 2: text back and forth, but to see so many people

28:55 Speaker 2: come together and stand by their words, some of these

28:58 Speaker 2: people for years and years, in years, Tyler with quite

29:02 Speaker 2: a reputation to them, quite the certificates, you know, I

29:06 Speaker 2: mean just character like Bob.

29:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bob, but so so On the thumbnail, I put

29:12 Speaker 1: something and he said this to me because I again,

29:18 Speaker 1: I got the meeting for Nan with Nancy Mace for myself,

29:21 Speaker 1: because I was doing this little documentary about my my

29:25 Speaker 1: trip to DC. It was only last second that I

29:30 Speaker 1: kind of shifted gears and put my ego aside for

29:35 Speaker 1: the greater good of disclosure or or the efforts of disclosure.

29:40 Speaker 1: And I don't want to sound like, oh, cool, Like,

29:42 Speaker 1: you know, I did something heroic. But I think it's

29:45 Speaker 1: important that we pay homage, homage to the people that

29:48 Speaker 1: got us here, right, the people like like Danny Shean, uh,

29:54 Speaker 1: like Steve Bassett, like Bob Salas, uh, like Jacques Fallet

29:58 Speaker 1: like uh h, doctor Heinik, like John Mack, I mean,

30:04 Speaker 1: Stan Friedman. The list goes on and on and on,

30:07 Speaker 1: and we are standing on the shoulders of giants. And

30:12 Speaker 1: if I can make a little bit of a difference,

30:15 Speaker 1: even just a little bit, by introducing someone who's spent

30:20 Speaker 1: fifty years waiting to tell this story, Ye fifty this

30:25 Speaker 1: is that was a meeting fifty years in the making.

30:29 Speaker 1: He all he wanted to do. And there's a moment

30:33 Speaker 1: in the video that you see it all Bob, I

30:36 Speaker 1: think really wants wanted to hear. Was someone in an

30:41 Speaker 1: official position say, Bob, I heard your story. You're credible,

30:46 Speaker 1: and I will take this further, you know, And that's

30:51 Speaker 1: what he got. And you can see in that interview

30:54 Speaker 1: this smile, and you see fifty years.

30:57 Speaker 2: Of pain and pressure and.

31:00 Speaker 1: Pressure and it just kind of all washes away and frustration,

31:05 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, frustration and you know, for for for

31:09 Speaker 1: me to be able to facilitate something like that for

31:12 Speaker 1: a man like him, who I look up to and

31:15 Speaker 1: have looked up to for for I mean, god knows

31:20 Speaker 1: how many years now that that that's a price I'll

31:23 Speaker 1: pay every day, every day.

31:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, him as a serviceman too, you know, be validated.

31:32 Speaker 2: I know a lot of servicemen have to deal and

31:34 Speaker 2: live with and you know, they even went into that

31:36 Speaker 2: how they get broken up after a sighting so they

31:39 Speaker 2: can't speak amongst it to each other. I think that's

31:41 Speaker 2: I think that's horrific. I think that truly probably alters

31:44 Speaker 2: and is detrimental to the state of our servicemen their

31:48 Speaker 2: mental state on top of everything they already deal with.

31:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I, uh, thank you. Uh it's nice to

31:55 Speaker 1: see you. But uh yeah, I hope everything's going good.

32:03 Speaker 1: But you know, I I there are people like Jeremy Corbel,

32:07 Speaker 1: George Knapp that they also you know, do this kind

32:12 Speaker 1: of thing, and they're they're they're very involved in Congress.

32:15 Speaker 1: And I know that there's been some there's with the

32:20 Speaker 1: Immaculate Constellation thing, there's been a little bit of a

32:23 Speaker 1: hiccup and there's been a little bit of discourse in

32:25 Speaker 1: the community and I don't really want to touch it

32:28 Speaker 1: yet because I don't I don't think that's what we

32:32 Speaker 1: should be doing. But I will say that I did

32:36 Speaker 1: get to meet Jeremy that day, and for the first time.

32:39 Speaker 1: I've talked to him a couple of times, uh privately,

32:42 Speaker 1: but this time I got to meet him. Uh when

32:44 Speaker 1: I because you know how, I got let in a

32:46 Speaker 1: half hour early. Yeah, so we had the room to ourselves.

32:50 Speaker 1: There was anyone who was pressed, and Corbel was standing there,

32:54 Speaker 1: and I saw the opportunity and I just kind of

32:56 Speaker 1: walked over and said, you know, thank you, and you

32:58 Speaker 1: know for all that he's done for the community, because

33:00 Speaker 1: he has done a lot. Yeah. I have my differences

33:05 Speaker 1: with Corbel. I have my differences with Alexander. God knows,

33:08 Speaker 1: I have my differences with Aleixando. But you know, I

33:12 Speaker 1: still took a picture with them. I you know, I

33:14 Speaker 1: still shook his hand and said thank you for your service.

33:17 Speaker 1: Like we sometimes we need to be able to disagree

33:20 Speaker 1: with people and to be able to move on, but

33:23 Speaker 1: to have the conversation.

33:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's a beautiful branching point to where I

33:28 Speaker 2: wanted to go with this. I think the most, the

33:30 Speaker 2: most uplifting part of that day was the bipartisan push.

33:35 Speaker 2: After going through such a tedious and aggressive political environment

33:41 Speaker 2: for so many years now, it seems like my whole

33:44 Speaker 2: life at this point, to hear just one topic be

33:48 Speaker 2: discussed from both sides of the aisle with passion and

33:51 Speaker 2: respect was just.

33:54 Speaker 5: Right.

33:54 Speaker 1: I mean, because I mean, look at look at what's

33:56 Speaker 1: happening this week, like you know, sad Representative Nancy Mace

34:02 Speaker 1: and Alexandra or I'm sorry, AOC, I just call her AOC,

34:07 Speaker 1: Alexandria Cortez. I can't do the oh they're fighting over

34:15 Speaker 1: like the trans bathroom issue, right, yeah, but hard. But

34:21 Speaker 1: they can be in a room and talk about UAP together,

34:23 Speaker 1: no problem.

34:24 Speaker 5: Right right.

34:26 Speaker 2: And you know, Bob storing conjunction with I think a

34:30 Speaker 2: desire for both iles to want to work on bipartisanship

34:33 Speaker 2: and try to find roots to make that the norm again.

34:36 Speaker 2: You know, you you put those two things in conjunction.

34:39 Speaker 2: I think we have a great future on the topic

34:41 Speaker 2: and amongst our congressional members.

34:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, what did you think of of

34:47 Speaker 1: what you heard in from the testimony because uh or

34:52 Speaker 1: what was your overall summation? Because I'm gonna play a clip.

34:56 Speaker 1: It's Nancy. It's this is also from the documentary I'm making,

34:59 Speaker 1: but m it's a clip from of Nancy Mace and

35:05 Speaker 1: her five minutes at I believe it was the end

35:08 Speaker 1: of the hearing or the or the first part. I

35:12 Speaker 1: can't remember. But what was your what was your summation

35:17 Speaker 1: of what was spoken about? Do you think that the

35:20 Speaker 1: hearing moved the ball forward in any way? And like

35:24 Speaker 1: I said, what was it like in the room that

35:26 Speaker 1: you were in.

35:29 Speaker 2: In the over I was in the overflow room. I

35:32 Speaker 2: mean it was consistent clapping, cheering. You know, you could

35:36 Speaker 2: tell people have come with the passion, and you know

35:39 Speaker 2: what got brought up a lot And I think your

35:41 Speaker 2: average Joe will speak to this, whether you believe it

35:44 Speaker 2: or not, is the government hides a lot from us.

35:47 Speaker 2: They have a lot of money going to places we

35:49 Speaker 2: will probably never ever know of, and that's just simply

35:51 Speaker 2: not right. So for credible people to come out and

35:54 Speaker 2: try to push the bill further saying well, this is

35:56 Speaker 2: where some of your money's going, I think we can

35:58 Speaker 2: all agree that that's worth looking in to.

36:01 Speaker 1: What's funny because not even like not even four days later,

36:04 Speaker 1: the Pentagon failed another audit, another audit. They've never passed audit.

36:09 Speaker 2: It's almost comical, Tyler, how much these things just play hand.

36:12 Speaker 1: In hand and and and so say I say, say

36:17 Speaker 1: say you or me. We were billionaire, a billionaire, and

36:21 Speaker 1: we we were audited and they they we couldn't pass

36:28 Speaker 1: our audit. You know, we would be facing jail time

36:31 Speaker 1: or let or serious fines and charges. Right, but the

36:37 Speaker 1: government is just like, ah ah, sorry, guys, we'll try

36:40 Speaker 1: again next year. Hopefully we'll get it right.

36:43 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Yeah, it's it's on the wrist. It's insincere,

36:49 Speaker 2: it's goofy, and it's not you know what I want

36:51 Speaker 2: from the people that at the end of the day

36:53 Speaker 2: we vote in and pay our money to. It's it's

36:57 Speaker 2: simply not right now. When you take it to something

36:59 Speaker 2: like the NHI topic, the UAP topic, and we branch

37:03 Speaker 2: out into what are the implications of this for our state?

37:10 Speaker 2: You know what we are, the human condition? What could

37:12 Speaker 2: this mean for possible energy sources, transportation, medical care in

37:17 Speaker 2: the future. You know, I think when it all starts

37:20 Speaker 2: to come together, that these beautiful, potentially beautiful advances in

37:25 Speaker 2: technology are right on the other side of whoever's gatekeeping this.

37:29 Speaker 2: I think that that's the major push that needs to happen,

37:32 Speaker 2: is that there is just a plethora of a new

37:34 Speaker 2: world on the other side. I don't think anyone has

37:37 Speaker 2: the right to gate keep that from the American people

37:40 Speaker 2: or humanity in a total.

37:42 Speaker 1: And what Eric says here is absolutely true. Eric, by

37:46 Speaker 1: the way, plays a huge role. Eric actually was critical

37:51 Speaker 1: in getting that Nancy Mace interview greenlit. So thank you, Eric,

37:57 Speaker 1: and thank you for all you do for me. He's

37:59 Speaker 1: such a but he says, it's it's important for older

38:03 Speaker 1: generations to hear this in that kind of setting, so

38:06 Speaker 1: like a and that it does make sense because the

38:09 Speaker 1: fact that like guys like my dad, they just think

38:13 Speaker 1: this this topic is such bullshit and until until the

38:18 Speaker 1: most powerful people are literally like saying like we're not alone,

38:22 Speaker 1: he's not gonna believe it. He's just simply not right.

38:25 Speaker 1: And for him, these go a long way. I I

38:30 Speaker 1: they go, you know, I point to these hearings, and

38:33 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't really have a comeback for it,

38:37 Speaker 1: aside from like, you know, the government's corrupt and it's

38:40 Speaker 1: like okay, cool back at square zero.

38:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I'm in my immediate circle. I've seen a

38:46 Speaker 2: crack open the first hearing and by far the second one.

38:50 Speaker 2: I mean, any any of my friends or coworkers that

38:53 Speaker 2: were on the sidelines, they're definitely they have some sort

38:55 Speaker 2: of investment into it now, they're definitely thinking about it.

38:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, John, She says that, Uh so, this is absolutely true.

39:02 Speaker 1: So some of the things that you didn't get to

39:05 Speaker 1: see in the the Robert Salace interview because I was

39:08 Speaker 1: not recording because I could not be recording, was the

39:13 Speaker 1: the when he got went into the event. Now we

39:18 Speaker 1: were submitting paperwork to her AFFI David's uh other information

39:26 Speaker 1: as well. Uh so that we couldn't record that part.

39:30 Speaker 1: But uh Steve Bassett, that's where he came in. So

39:33 Speaker 1: that's why I, you know, I didn't just bring Robert in.

39:36 Speaker 1: I brought both of them in because Robert has the

39:39 Speaker 1: story right, but Steve has that expertise and he's got

39:45 Speaker 1: that you know, he's an UFO activist, he's he knows

39:47 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill and he and he knew what he was doing.

39:50 Speaker 1: So for for me to to bring those guys in there,

39:54 Speaker 1: that was I had a I thought because one thing

39:59 Speaker 1: that Bob didn't say and you don't hear them say

40:01 Speaker 1: is you know okay, we'll say that in a closed

40:04 Speaker 1: door briefing, or I can't tell you that, right. No,

40:07 Speaker 1: we get we gave names, dates, we gave testimony, we

40:13 Speaker 1: gave uh everything. We threw the kitchen sink at this.

40:17 Speaker 1: And now we're being reached out to by other members

40:20 Speaker 1: of Congress and potential senators and you know, future high

40:25 Speaker 1: ranking officials in the next administration are asking to hear

40:30 Speaker 1: Bob's story. So, uh, you know what I mean that

40:34 Speaker 1: for me, that that that this is big.

40:38 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful segue into the topic for people, especially,

40:43 Speaker 2: you know, people that don't believe in the topic on

40:46 Speaker 2: Capitol Hill. You bring it to them in front in

40:48 Speaker 2: such a way. I mean, it's almost undeniable.

40:53 Speaker 1: If I told you that ten nukes were shut down

40:56 Speaker 1: by an unknown object and you had any stake in

41:01 Speaker 1: you know, national security, if you did not respond with

41:07 Speaker 1: tell me more, you shouldn't be in that job. Right.

41:11 Speaker 1: So that's that's my position, and that's why I did

41:15 Speaker 1: what I did. Now I'm going to bring up this clip.

41:18 Speaker 1: It's quick, five minute ones. It's just a It kind

41:23 Speaker 1: of refreshes the mace questioning with the witnesses on November thirteenth.

41:31 Speaker 14: I will now recognize myself for five minutes of questioning.

41:35 Speaker 14: I have a lot of questions, and I have a

41:37 Speaker 14: lot of witnesses, So I would just ask if it's

41:39 Speaker 14: yester or not to please just tell me yes or now.

41:41 Speaker 14: If it requires more than that, be very succinct, because

41:44 Speaker 14: I would like to go down the line and ask as.

41:47 Speaker 4: Many questions as possible.

41:48 Speaker 14: So for the Admiral this morning, first former DoD official

41:52 Speaker 14: Chris Mellon reached out to you about satellite imagery from

41:55 Speaker 14: twenty seventeen.

41:56 Speaker 4: That depicts a UAP.

41:57 Speaker 14: What were the dates in twenty seventeen when this card?

42:00 Speaker 9: I can't share with you the details, man, but I

42:02 Speaker 9: can do it in the closed setting, and I can

42:04 Speaker 9: still tell you to report on it.

42:07 Speaker 1: Okay, So who has the imagery?

42:09 Speaker 9: I can tell you that in the closed setting.

42:11 Speaker 14: Can you describe what was depicted in the satellite imagery?

42:14 Speaker 1: Just a description?

42:15 Speaker 9: It was a UAP, man, that's it.

42:18 Speaker 1: No other description.

42:19 Speaker 9: The term that the analysts use, they call it the button.

42:24 Speaker 9: It was a it was a disc shaped object.

42:27 Speaker 1: Okay, where was it?

42:28 Speaker 9: I can't tell you that, man?

42:30 Speaker 1: Okay? All right?

42:33 Speaker 14: Mister Alizondo, you say it in your testimony that quote,

42:36 Speaker 14: advanced technologies not by.

42:38 Speaker 1: Our government or any other government.

42:41 Speaker 14: Are monitoring sensitive military installations around the globe end quote.

42:45 Speaker 14: If these technologies are not made by any government, who's

42:48 Speaker 14: making them private companies? Or you implying they are crafted

42:51 Speaker 14: by a non human intelligence?

42:53 Speaker 15: Well, ma'am, that's precisely why we're here. The problem is

42:56 Speaker 15: that temporally speaking over decades, not just the last ten

42:59 Speaker 15: year before.

43:01 Speaker 14: To put this in perspective, when are these private companies

43:03 Speaker 14: you're implying or is this non human intelligence?

43:06 Speaker 5: It maybe both.

43:07 Speaker 15: When it comes to Blue Force technologies, I would not

43:09 Speaker 15: be able to discuss.

43:10 Speaker 14: Okay, are you read into secret UAP crash retrieval programs?

43:14 Speaker 15: We would have to have a conversation in a close session, ma'am.

43:17 Speaker 15: I signed documentation three years ago that restricts my ability

43:21 Speaker 15: to discuss specifically crash retrievals. I submitted from my book

43:25 Speaker 15: through the dopts Or process, which took a year to

43:27 Speaker 15: be reviewed, and what is in the book is what

43:30 Speaker 15: I was told I'm allowed to talk about.

43:32 Speaker 14: Has the government conducted secret UAP crash rechieval programs?

43:35 Speaker 3: Yes?

43:35 Speaker 1: Or no, yes, okay.

43:37 Speaker 14: Were they designed to identify and reverse engineer alien craft?

43:40 Speaker 1: Yes or no?

43:40 Speaker 5: Yes?

43:41 Speaker 1: Yes? Does the US.

43:42 Speaker 14: Government have any reverse okay? When I said a question

43:45 Speaker 14: about retrieval programs, do any US contractors have the same.

43:50 Speaker 15: I would prefer to address on a closed session, ma'am.

43:53 Speaker 1: Okay.

43:53 Speaker 14: In your book, you mentioned government employees who've been injured

43:56 Speaker 14: by UAPs, placed on leave and receiving government compensation for

43:59 Speaker 14: their injuries.

44:00 Speaker 2: Is that correct?

44:01 Speaker 15: That is correct?

44:01 Speaker 1: How can the government.

44:02 Speaker 14: Deny we have recovered craft if they're paying people because

44:06 Speaker 14: they've been injured by recovered craft.

44:08 Speaker 15: Man, that's a great question. That's why I think we're

44:11 Speaker 15: here again because I've seen the documentation by the US

44:14 Speaker 15: government for several of these individuals who have sustained injuries

44:18 Speaker 15: as a result of a UAP incident.

44:20 Speaker 14: It's a crazy idea, right, the hypocrisy and Okay, mister Schellenberger,

44:25 Speaker 14: I'm going to say it again to be very clear,

44:28 Speaker 14: Immaculate Constellation, what's its mission and how are they funded?

44:34 Speaker 1: She is a Specify two.

44:36 Speaker 10: As I stated, it's mission is.

44:39 Speaker 16: It's an unacknowledged special access program. Its mission is to

44:44 Speaker 16: document UAPs.

44:46 Speaker 1: Okay, and do.

44:46 Speaker 14: You for your story and your report. Do you have

44:49 Speaker 14: more than one credible source? I do sourcing, okay, and

44:52 Speaker 14: then why do you believe your sources to be credible?

44:55 Speaker 14: How do you judge the veracity of the documentation you've

44:57 Speaker 14: been provided about this program?

44:59 Speaker 16: I checked the sources, and they are who they say

45:02 Speaker 16: they are. They are current or former government officials. I

45:06 Speaker 16: should also I want to also add that I did

45:08 Speaker 16: not specify that they were Defense Department employees. I didn't

45:12 Speaker 16: specify the agency nor the gender.

45:14 Speaker 14: Would they have included non government employees people that are

45:17 Speaker 14: employed by the government.

45:18 Speaker 16: These are I'm comfortable saying that these are government or

45:23 Speaker 16: previously government employees.

45:25 Speaker 14: Any of them currently employed by a private contractor or

45:27 Speaker 14: private contractors.

45:28 Speaker 10: I'd rather not say.

45:30 Speaker 14: Okay, what's the key takeaway in just a few seconds

45:33 Speaker 14: about the Mactic constellation document you provided us today?

45:37 Speaker 16: I think that what the American people need to know

45:39 Speaker 16: is that the US military and intelligence community are sitting

45:41 Speaker 16: on a huge amount of visual and other information still photos, video, photos,

45:47 Speaker 16: other sensor information, and they have for a very long time.

45:51 Speaker 16: And it's not those fuzzy photos and videos that we

45:54 Speaker 16: begin in those very clear, high RESK high resolution.

45:58 Speaker 14: How many vision rules, graphics, videos, photos, I.

46:02 Speaker 16: Mean I've been told hundreds, you know, maybe thousands. I mean,

46:05 Speaker 16: I also wanted to say because there was some there

46:07 Speaker 16: was some conversation around concern around the revealing of these materials,

46:13 Speaker 16: revealing the source collections. But some of these are shot

46:15 Speaker 16: from helicopters using normal videos of oceans. I just think

46:20 Speaker 16: that's absurd that somehow you're going to be revealing some

46:23 Speaker 16: secret US technology by revealing that you've shut you've photographed

46:27 Speaker 16: orbs off the coast of Kuwait.

46:28 Speaker 14: Okay, think you have eight seconds, mister Gold, Did NASA,

46:31 Speaker 14: the NASA Independent Study Team get briefed on what you

46:33 Speaker 14: call ASAP very quickly?

46:36 Speaker 17: I flagged the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System asligation program to

46:40 Speaker 17: our chair and our DFO. We did not get briefed,

46:43 Speaker 17: but I believe it is definitely worth looking into. That

46:46 Speaker 17: was probably the largest UAP review effort ever, and I

46:49 Speaker 17: think us a lot of interest data, including revealing limits.

46:52 Speaker 17: I don't know if my fellow litmus Lou might want

46:55 Speaker 17: he did Yeoman's work on it, might want to comment.

46:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway, I've watched it five times now. It's

47:02 Speaker 2: still just was crazy to hear it.

47:04 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, so and and I wanted to bring that

47:08 Speaker 1: that that clip up, especially because I think it demonstrates,

47:12 Speaker 1: like you said, the veracity of of Nancy and her

47:17 Speaker 1: clamor her real desire to get to the bottom of

47:20 Speaker 1: this comme hell or high water. And I truly do

47:26 Speaker 1: think that, you know, in this situation, we stop seeing

47:30 Speaker 1: red blue or parties, and we need to see the

47:34 Speaker 1: future of the human civilization and protecting it at all

47:38 Speaker 1: costs because life is precious. And you know if just

47:43 Speaker 1: our solar system is is proof of that, right, you know,

47:48 Speaker 1: out of eight eight planets, seven planets, nine planets, one

47:52 Speaker 1: you know, we know sustains intelligent life that you know

47:56 Speaker 1: or or has the capacity to do so in the

48:00 Speaker 1: form that we've taken. So life is precious and we

48:05 Speaker 1: need to do whatever it is uh to to to

48:09 Speaker 1: keep these discussions happening at these high levels, uh, especially

48:16 Speaker 1: when things are looking like they are, Like we talked

48:19 Speaker 1: about it before recording, but Russia just used the intercontinental

48:27 Speaker 1: ballistic missile in a war zone, which is the first

48:32 Speaker 1: time ever conflict. Yeah and and and dude, that ship

48:37 Speaker 1: keeps me up at night. So and and we're being

48:43 Speaker 1: you know, Pigeon oled here and kind of just stuck

48:46 Speaker 1: in the middle of this of this fight that has

48:49 Speaker 1: been happening between the US and and other nuclear powers.

48:55 Speaker 1: And and it just seems that, you know, whether it's

48:57 Speaker 1: the Zimbabwe case for the Aerials school or a countless

49:03 Speaker 1: other abduction events where the the people who encounter these

49:09 Speaker 1: beings come back. And by the way, that's this includes

49:14 Speaker 1: Bob that people don't realize this that.

49:18 Speaker 2: He had experiences after Yes.

49:21 Speaker 1: This this is not just his story about being at

49:26 Speaker 1: Malmstrom that day. It went further, so plan so many

49:32 Speaker 1: people have gotten this message of nuclear nuclear weapons are

49:37 Speaker 1: going to be the destruction of your species. If you're

49:41 Speaker 1: not careful, you're playing with fire. And for me, that

49:46 Speaker 1: is that that that is the moral of the story.

49:51 Speaker 1: That's the moral of Bob's story, of Bob Jacobs's story,

49:55 Speaker 1: of of any other story. There's there's a case in

49:57 Speaker 1: Russia that George knapbroke where instead of them turning off

50:01 Speaker 1: the nuclear missiles, they turned them on, right and so

50:07 Speaker 1: for for like I think it was like two minutes

50:10 Speaker 1: the launch control facility, the people in it thought that

50:15 Speaker 1: World War three was about to start because of some malfunction,

50:21 Speaker 1: and you know, then they later found out that they

50:24 Speaker 1: were that that a UFO was was seen breaching the complex,

50:29 Speaker 1: and you're just going to start asking yourself. And other

50:32 Speaker 1: people like Robert Hastings have said that every research facility,

50:36 Speaker 1: every nuclear base that the United States has has been

50:41 Speaker 1: visited by a UFO, like at least one documented case.

50:46 Speaker 1: To me, there's like there's there's just a clear, clear

50:51 Speaker 1: message being sent, is that these you're playing with fire literally.

50:56 Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right, you know, back to Bob

50:59 Speaker 2: and that this is the part of the phenomenon that

51:02 Speaker 2: needs highlighted way more is the messages they're trying to

51:05 Speaker 2: give to us as as a species, nuclear intent specifically.

51:12 Speaker 2: You know, I think we go forward too much. Those

51:14 Speaker 2: of us that are aware of these circumstances, these situations,

51:17 Speaker 2: I think we take the message for granted a little.

51:22 Speaker 2: You know, these these intelligences, they're giving us a warning.

51:26 Speaker 2: I think that much is clear to make out. But

51:28 Speaker 2: I don't think we should assume that if things were

51:30 Speaker 2: to go hot, they have a solution for us as well.

51:33 Speaker 1: Right like Dad, he's not gonna You know, a lot

51:36 Speaker 1: of the UFO community think and and this tends to

51:40 Speaker 1: align and I'm not.

51:41 Speaker 15: I'm not.

51:42 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be like a judgmental to this

51:46 Speaker 1: group of people because I do believe that I actually,

51:51 Speaker 1: I do believe that there is some very very very

51:57 Speaker 1: good evidence to suggest that something like the Aunaki, we're

52:01 Speaker 1: absolutely one thing, but the ancient alien people tend to

52:07 Speaker 1: think that if we start throwing nukes that the alien

52:10 Speaker 1: overlords will come down and save us. Dude, don't hold

52:14 Speaker 1: your breath.

52:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm not trying to put the well being

52:18 Speaker 2: of everything in some unknown, phenomenous hands. I mean, and

52:22 Speaker 2: you know, you're talking about how different groups exist within

52:25 Speaker 2: this community. It's such a hard topic to you know.

52:28 Speaker 2: I think that's why common ground is so important in

52:31 Speaker 2: this group, because there's so much uncommon ground just due

52:33 Speaker 2: to the nature of the phenomena rights it's unknown, it

52:36 Speaker 2: is inherently unknown, it's unidentified, and so everyone's kind of

52:41 Speaker 2: pulling their own straw. But the more we can recognize

52:44 Speaker 2: patterns like the nuclear pattern, and we can compare that

52:47 Speaker 2: and we can make that a cohesive narrative for these things,

52:52 Speaker 2: I think that's how we get more people on board. Too. Well.

52:55 Speaker 1: The thing I don't want to happen is I don't

52:57 Speaker 1: want it to be used. And and and I actually

53:00 Speaker 1: give credit to Alizondo lately, or at least in his book,

53:04 Speaker 1: this is the approach he took. He said that there

53:07 Speaker 1: is a difference between hostile and indifferent because these UFOs

53:15 Speaker 1: are their occupants. They could be indifferent to humanity, right,

53:22 Speaker 1: but not hostile. However, we would see that as a

53:26 Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't want us to start acting

53:30 Speaker 1: like this is a threat, because that's when it gets

53:33 Speaker 1: That's when it gets really scary, right, the threat, the

53:36 Speaker 1: threat from space, the the you know what what others

53:41 Speaker 1: have called the false flag operation that that Werner von

53:46 Speaker 1: Braun talked about and doctor greer Uh talks about. You

53:53 Speaker 1: know that that is a scenario that's that is frightening,

53:57 Speaker 1: because I do I do think that there are I

54:01 Speaker 1: think it's stupid to think that all advanced civilization would

54:05 Speaker 1: be would be good. I just don't see any hostility yet,

54:12 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely, Like we're still here

54:16 Speaker 1: having this conversation. If anyone was hostile to us, like

54:19 Speaker 1: we'd be enslaved by now they were or they would

54:22 Speaker 1: have you know, took a chunk of the asteroid belt

54:24 Speaker 1: and just flipped it our way.

54:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, just technologies like that. It's but it'd be done quick,

54:31 Speaker 2: you know, imagination, but it'd be done.

54:34 Speaker 1: But it leads you down an interesting path of like

54:37 Speaker 1: you know, you don't look at like a battery, right,

54:40 Speaker 1: like a car battery. Right, you don't look at a

54:42 Speaker 1: car battery and and and then you know, look at

54:44 Speaker 1: the negative side and go, oh it's bad, right, No,

54:48 Speaker 1: it completes the circuit. It brings balance. So we know

54:55 Speaker 1: that in our own civilization, Like people think that the

54:59 Speaker 1: only way that our species advances as if we advanced

55:03 Speaker 1: past you know, violence or or or or negativity. I

55:11 Speaker 1: don't think that will ever happen, But I think if

55:13 Speaker 1: you have enough of the population advance past it, then

55:18 Speaker 1: yes you're good. Right, you know, you're always going to

55:22 Speaker 1: have those people that are bad. They're just wired differently.

55:26 Speaker 1: And I think that goes for everything. You know, there's

55:28 Speaker 1: a yin and yang, there's a balance to this all

55:32 Speaker 1: and and uh, nuclear weapons, Uh, they're just they're just

55:38 Speaker 1: something that scared me because you know, we don't really

55:41 Speaker 1: get to say in that once they go, they go.

55:45 Speaker 5: Yeah.

55:46 Speaker 2: You know that was even demonstrated with the ICBM field

55:49 Speaker 2: tests that Russia carried out just within the week. I

55:53 Speaker 2: didn't get a notification on my phone.

55:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I actually have a clip from I know

55:59 Speaker 1: it's Rogan. People have their ship to say about Joe Rogan,

56:02 Speaker 1: but I think what he says in this in this

56:04 Speaker 1: clip is actually very pertinent because he's absolutely right, like

56:09 Speaker 1: we don't realize like life would change just like that,

56:13 Speaker 1: because that's like like if we start. Annie Jacobson wrote

56:18 Speaker 1: a book recently. I think it became a best seller

56:22 Speaker 1: about are if a nuclear I forget what the book's called.

56:28 Speaker 1: Damn it. If anyone in the audio, if anyone the

56:30 Speaker 1: audience knows the book title, please put it in the comments.

56:33 Speaker 1: I don't want to look it up. But she details

56:37 Speaker 1: the moment, the moment that a nuclear weapon from one

56:44 Speaker 1: of our enemies, whether it be you know, Russia, China,

56:50 Speaker 1: north Korea. I think in that in her example, I

56:53 Speaker 1: think she does use North Korea. I'm not, I'm not,

56:56 Speaker 1: But anyway she details is the whole thing. And she

57:02 Speaker 1: did a lot of extensive work and interviews, and she

57:05 Speaker 1: had found out that the United States is a policy

57:08 Speaker 1: that if a nuclear weapon is in the air, the

57:13 Speaker 1: President has like I think it's something like nine minutes

57:18 Speaker 1: total from launch to impact to make a decision and

57:25 Speaker 1: the world or don't blow right or take the take

57:31 Speaker 1: the hit, because once we launch one, we launch them all.

57:37 Speaker 1: We have a use it or lose it.

57:39 Speaker 2: Policy, right, absolutely, we do.

57:43 Speaker 1: So tears the shit out of me.

57:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man. The Russians they have a dead man

57:51 Speaker 2: switch policy. You know, they have readers that if they

57:54 Speaker 2: don't get a ping back from Moscow within a certain

57:57 Speaker 2: amount of time, the computer assumes that Moscow's and taking out,

58:01 Speaker 2: then they'll do readings for radiation and such in the

58:04 Speaker 2: surrounding area. If that things for that as well, then

58:06 Speaker 2: it launches its own. So it's set up in such way.

58:10 Speaker 2: No matter what, we all lose.

58:13 Speaker 1: And you know who always loses, the civilians.

58:17 Speaker 2: The civilians and any the civilians.

58:21 Speaker 1: Look at what's happening in Israel, Look what's happening in

58:24 Speaker 1: the Ukraine. It's the citizens that lose. It's not the

58:28 Speaker 1: it's not the one percenters, no, no, but.

58:34 Speaker 18: Listening, just because the outgoing president or whoever the fuck

58:37 Speaker 18: is actually running the country is decided to do something,

58:39 Speaker 18: decided to do something fucking insane, fucking insane, and we're

58:44 Speaker 18: all sitting there watching it and people cheering it. On

58:48 Speaker 18: CNN was saying, like, finally see what their headline was

58:51 Speaker 18: about Zelensky using about Biden giving Zelenski the ability to

58:56 Speaker 18: use long range missiles. US made long range It's not

59:00 Speaker 18: like nobody knows where they came from. It's not like

59:02 Speaker 18: nobody knows we've been the how do you how are

59:05 Speaker 18: you allowed to do? Yeah, like the people don't want

59:15 Speaker 18: you to be there anymore. This should be like some

59:16 Speaker 18: sort of like a pause for like significant actions that

59:20 Speaker 18: could potentially start World War three. Maybe that would be

59:24 Speaker 18: a good thing that we would like to avoid from

59:26 Speaker 18: up a dying former president. It's the whole thing is nuts.

59:31 Speaker 15: I mean, look, I don't know about politics.

59:35 Speaker 18: Is terrified. Fuck you man, fuck you people, You fucking

59:40 Speaker 18: people are about to start World War three.

59:43 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy.

59:44 Speaker 2: Rush a fire missile today.

59:45 Speaker 18: I Feelah, they fired an intercontinental ballistic missile for the

59:48 Speaker 18: first time ever, So the first time one of those

59:50 Speaker 18: has ever been used.

59:52 Speaker 5: That inanity.

59:53 Speaker 18: Fucking insanity, because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes

59:56 Speaker 18: on them. This wouldn't didn't, but if it does, the

59:59 Speaker 18: whole world changes, and it changes because the military industrial complex,

1:00:03 Speaker 18: and it changes because the money that's going to Ukraine,

1:00:06 Speaker 18: and it changes because the outgoing president or whoever the

1:00:09 Speaker 18: fuck is actually running the country is decided to do something,

1:00:11 Speaker 18: decided to do something fucking insane, fucking insane, and we're

1:00:16 Speaker 18: all sitting there watching it and people are cheering it.

1:00:19 Speaker 18: On CNN was saying, like, finally see what their headline

1:00:23 Speaker 18: was about Zelensky, using about Biden giving Zelenski the ability

1:00:28 Speaker 18: to use long range missiles. US made long range. It's

1:00:32 Speaker 18: not like nobody knows where they came from. It's not

1:00:34 Speaker 18: like nobody knows we've been funding this. It's a proxy war.

1:00:36 Speaker 18: The whole thing is fucking insane. It's insane. Come to

1:00:42 Speaker 18: the negotiation table, sit down, work this out. Stop killing everybody.

1:00:46 Speaker 18: US allows Ukraine to use long rain missiles. So what

1:00:48 Speaker 18: did they say? Someone had said that, like CNN was

1:00:53 Speaker 18: saying that it was a good thing, which I think

1:00:56 Speaker 18: is how how is the left gone so far crazy

1:01:01 Speaker 18: that they think it's a good thing to launch missiles.

1:01:07 Speaker 18: That's what's scary about life, is like you don't want

1:01:09 Speaker 18: to pay attention to that ship. You just want to

1:01:11 Speaker 18: live your life. You want to just be care free

1:01:14 Speaker 18: and have fun and do the thing that you're passionate about,

1:01:16 Speaker 18: and meanwhile the world is burning.

1:01:18 Speaker 1: And at that high level, it's like there's nothing.

1:01:22 Speaker 18: Well we can We voted Trump and his idea is

1:01:26 Speaker 18: to stop.

1:01:36 Speaker 1: Great. I think we were muted when it plays videos

1:01:43 Speaker 1: that like automatically mutes us. So I don't know if

1:01:45 Speaker 1: anyone could hear our commentary anyway, But I agree with

1:01:48 Speaker 1: Joe here I got I can't not agree with them.

1:01:52 Speaker 1: It's it's it's due insanity. Think about this, Think about this.

1:02:00 Speaker 1: The only thing keeping us from total nuclear holocaust is

1:02:07 Speaker 1: because or it's the notion of an acronym called that

1:02:13 Speaker 1: spells out mad mad. This is fucking insane, but nobody

1:02:19 Speaker 1: wants to talk about it because that would mean admitting

1:02:22 Speaker 1: that the US is part of the problem, maybe not

1:02:24 Speaker 1: the solution. I think we need to fucking realize that

1:02:28 Speaker 1: we're flawed, we're broken, and that that that the aliens

1:02:32 Speaker 1: aren't coming down to save us anytime soon, Like in

1:02:36 Speaker 1: my opinion, if I was them, we haven't. They're there,

1:02:43 Speaker 1: and and you know what, like people that were standing

1:02:45 Speaker 1: in line with us were like people. They were people

1:02:47 Speaker 1: like Chris Bledsoe, right right, you know, uh, just and

1:02:55 Speaker 1: and others like Robert and and and like I said,

1:02:58 Speaker 1: Danny Shean and and then James Fox, h Jesse Michaels,

1:03:04 Speaker 1: the guys from Yes Theory.

1:03:06 Speaker 5: Uh.

1:03:06 Speaker 1: There there were so many people there that you know,

1:03:11 Speaker 1: I look around and I just you know, I really

1:03:14 Speaker 1: love I love this topic. But like at some point,

1:03:19 Speaker 1: like we got to separate it and be like, Okay,

1:03:21 Speaker 1: there's real life too, because you know, these politicians like

1:03:26 Speaker 1: we want to have UAP hearings, We want to have

1:03:29 Speaker 1: this discussion in congress. You know how we get you

1:03:32 Speaker 1: know how that ends very quick World War three. World

1:03:37 Speaker 1: War three ends our conversation really quickly. All of a sudden,

1:03:43 Speaker 1: UFOs don't matter, and we're fucking teetering right now.

1:03:49 Speaker 2: We are, man, dare I say, it's the closest we've

1:03:52 Speaker 2: been since Cuban Missile Crisis to this kind of calamity.

1:03:56 Speaker 2: And it's just it's really you know, we saw a

1:03:59 Speaker 2: comment while we were watching that clip someone said they

1:04:01 Speaker 2: didn't even know this was all going on. And with ICBM,

1:04:05 Speaker 2: I hear that far too much from people I'm around.

1:04:09 Speaker 2: If this was the sixties and we had a series

1:04:11 Speaker 2: of events going on like this, there'd be PSAs pushed

1:04:15 Speaker 2: out on the radio. They'd be building those bomb shelters

1:04:18 Speaker 2: that we see now that are under libraries, that are outdated.

1:04:21 Speaker 2: We think of them as a thing of the past.

1:04:23 Speaker 2: Fin I think that's just that's the public's perception of

1:04:27 Speaker 2: where the state of things are, and that is up

1:04:30 Speaker 2: to our government and our media to kind of set

1:04:33 Speaker 2: the stage for how we should be viewing those kind

1:04:36 Speaker 2: of events. And right now they are just very very inadequate.

1:04:41 Speaker 2: They don't want to create any sort of fear, any

1:04:44 Speaker 2: sort of panic. They would rather have things just march

1:04:46 Speaker 2: on the way they are. And that's what's going to

1:04:48 Speaker 2: end us up in World War three. I think once

1:04:51 Speaker 2: it finally starts and whoever slaps the label on it,

1:04:54 Speaker 2: you know, kind of like you described when we talked,

1:04:57 Speaker 2: whenever the label of World War three is thrown on

1:04:59 Speaker 2: it and then it's sold to the people like that,

1:05:02 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have a lot of mass panic.

1:05:04 Speaker 1: It's over.

1:05:06 Speaker 2: I truly it's unfortunate because a society should have been

1:05:10 Speaker 2: able to see those twenty steps ahead.

1:05:12 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we should be and and and honestly, you know,

1:05:17 Speaker 1: if if, if, if it takes something like a person

1:05:21 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump to stop this fucking sign me up.

1:05:27 Speaker 1: I don't care anymore. I don't care anymore.

1:05:29 Speaker 2: I don't carry anymore either, man, you know, I.

1:05:34 Speaker 1: Just I just want the fun. I want people to

1:05:36 Speaker 1: stop dying. That's what I want. I want us to

1:05:38 Speaker 1: go and I want us to be a civilization that

1:05:42 Speaker 1: works towards get into Mars, because yes, it's the next

1:05:46 Speaker 1: big thing. And I don't know if you saw Neil

1:05:50 Speaker 1: de grass Tyson on Bill Maher, Yeah, dude, what it does?

1:05:56 Speaker 1: What a joke?

1:05:59 Speaker 9: What?

1:05:59 Speaker 5: Like?

1:06:00 Speaker 1: Honestly, I've never wanted to slap Neilder grass Tyson more

1:06:04 Speaker 1: than now because he's what he's implying by what he

1:06:09 Speaker 1: is saying, is that the only way scientific advancement in

1:06:13 Speaker 1: space happens is if there's an enemy that we need

1:06:17 Speaker 1: to beat there. And he's telling you the dirty fucking truth.

1:06:23 Speaker 1: And nobody will bad an eye, nobody will bad any

1:06:26 Speaker 1: but elon. He's not asking for venture capitalist meetings. He

1:06:31 Speaker 1: wants to advance the species to preserve conciousness. Yes, right,

1:06:37 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to do it because China is gonna

1:06:39 Speaker 1: have military basis and by the way, how come nobody's

1:06:43 Speaker 1: talking about neilder grass Tyson and how he just literally said, oh,

1:06:49 Speaker 1: we could just leak a memo from China, doesn't even

1:06:51 Speaker 1: have to be real. Mars has read China's read. That's

1:06:56 Speaker 1: an easy sell. Was that that's the most racist thing

1:06:59 Speaker 1: I've ever heard.

1:07:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't hear that. I did not hear anything.

1:07:03 Speaker 2: That's the most.

1:07:04 Speaker 1: Racist fucking thing I've ever fucking heard. But nobody bats

1:07:09 Speaker 1: an eye, right, he said, He said, and I quote,

1:07:13 Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be real, implying that, yeah, we

1:07:19 Speaker 1: could leak something that says China plans to have Mars

1:07:25 Speaker 1: moon by twenty twenty nine, and then all of a sudden,

1:07:29 Speaker 1: NASA would be like, all right, time to do our job. Okay, right,

1:07:34 Speaker 1: that's the only way it happens.

1:07:36 Speaker 2: Apparently apparently. Yeah, in the world o' neil too, at

1:07:42 Speaker 2: does he show his head to just say something so

1:07:45 Speaker 2: tone deaf? At least to me, he comes off as

1:07:47 Speaker 2: so tone death.

1:07:48 Speaker 1: Well once once he got slapped with a little bit

1:07:50 Speaker 1: of a hashtag of me too. He uh, he did

1:07:53 Speaker 1: whatever he needed to get out of that. Yeah, and

1:07:57 Speaker 1: he's a he's a sellout. He is a fucking Sellow. Yeah,

1:08:01 Speaker 1: and people are.

1:08:02 Speaker 2: Comparing cartoon shows like Mysteries. That was good. I liked

1:08:07 Speaker 2: him there.

1:08:08 Speaker 1: I used to love Neil deGrasse Tyson. I When he

1:08:11 Speaker 1: would do a show that would be on Rogan, I

1:08:13 Speaker 1: would literally drop everything to listen to it because I was,

1:08:19 Speaker 1: you know, fascinated by the man. People forget that he

1:08:22 Speaker 1: got his start, you know, him and him and the

1:08:25 Speaker 1: UAP thing kind of aggravates me because you know, he's

1:08:28 Speaker 1: famously he's known for his his work in black holes,

1:08:33 Speaker 1: which when he started working on it were uh, they

1:08:37 Speaker 1: hadn't been actually confirmed. They they'd never been photographed. They

1:08:42 Speaker 1: were purely a hypothetical reality, right right. It was the

1:08:52 Speaker 1: the data spoke more for it being real black holes

1:08:58 Speaker 1: we than not for being that, you know, I mean

1:09:02 Speaker 1: the counter and he and but he says the thing

1:09:06 Speaker 1: about the UAP topic is well, there's not there's no evidence.

1:09:09 Speaker 1: There's you know, there's not there's no clear video, there's

1:09:13 Speaker 1: no He he always demands more evidence, and it's like, uh, uh, well,

1:09:20 Speaker 1: you know the testimony that's being given, you know, just

1:09:24 Speaker 1: at the up hearings, right, the testimony that have been

1:09:27 Speaker 1: given by uh thousands of credible people. The videos, right,

1:09:36 Speaker 1: I mean, the the well. I like what Mitchell Kaku

1:09:39 Speaker 1: says is the burden of proof has been so the

1:09:44 Speaker 1: burden has been shifted to the non believer. Right. We

1:09:50 Speaker 1: have our evidence to say that there is something to

1:09:54 Speaker 1: this phenomena. Uh, it's now on the non believer to

1:09:58 Speaker 1: prove that it's prosaic in nature, all of it. And

1:10:03 Speaker 1: you know, it just sucks that Neil kind of took

1:10:06 Speaker 1: this bad turn because he could have been One day

1:10:10 Speaker 1: we'll see a heel turn from him, and uh, just remember,

1:10:15 Speaker 1: you know, just remember who he is right now, we'll

1:10:18 Speaker 1: see it because when it all comes out, he'll be like, yeah,

1:10:21 Speaker 1: you know I was. I said it all along.

1:10:23 Speaker 2: Plenty of interviews with you, Neil. Now it breaks my

1:10:27 Speaker 2: heart when I hear him speak about it. He just

1:10:29 Speaker 2: he can be so condescending on the topic, which you know,

1:10:31 Speaker 2: like you were speaking about man, he came from working

1:10:34 Speaker 2: with black holes when they were just the abnormality, they

1:10:38 Speaker 2: were theoretical. You know, you're trying to account for why

1:10:42 Speaker 2: this is doing the thing. It's doing this part of

1:10:45 Speaker 2: space and then working from there with unknowns. It's absolutely

1:10:52 Speaker 2: crazy to know someone that can be had that has

1:10:55 Speaker 2: free their mind to such speculation like that is so

1:10:57 Speaker 2: quick to dismiss something that thousands people have seen, talked about, pictures, videos, Yeah.

1:11:04 Speaker 1: And and and you know, we'll move on from that,

1:11:07 Speaker 1: but it's it really is a shame, uh that you know,

1:11:11 Speaker 1: he's just he's he's he's essentially a mouthpiece. He's not

1:11:15 Speaker 1: an act like Gary Nolan will even say it, uh,

1:11:18 Speaker 1: doctor Gary Nolan, Like Neil isn't a real scientist anymore, right,

1:11:23 Speaker 1: He's he's, uh, he's more of a personality that then

1:11:28 Speaker 1: that than a practicing scientist. Bill Nye is not even

1:11:33 Speaker 1: a real scientist, but he's the science guy. And and

1:11:37 Speaker 1: and those two are there, they're they're like super outspoken

1:11:41 Speaker 1: about UFOs and and and how it's a bunch of

1:11:44 Speaker 1: bullshit and uh. And my response to that is like

1:11:49 Speaker 1: catch up, catch catch up, because you're you're you're fall behind.

1:11:55 Speaker 1: But you know, it was really fun meeting you at

1:11:58 Speaker 1: the hearings and I got to hear a little about you,

1:12:01 Speaker 1: or I got to yah meet you and your girlfriend,

1:12:05 Speaker 1: your amazing girlfriend, and hear about your story and it

1:12:10 Speaker 1: resonated with me a bit. So maybe maybe how did

1:12:14 Speaker 1: you you know how did you get in.

1:12:16 Speaker 2: The topic, Absolutely, dude, I'd say my whole life. You know,

1:12:21 Speaker 2: I was kind of open minded to the supernatural aspect

1:12:25 Speaker 2: that may be of thing's right, nothing too concrete, hardcore

1:12:30 Speaker 2: for my whole life really until two years ago. So

1:12:33 Speaker 2: I'm twenty three right now. So I was twenty one,

1:12:37 Speaker 2: and you know, the story comes off as a simple

1:12:41 Speaker 2: but the impact that left has been profound on me.

1:12:44 Speaker 5: Tyler.

1:12:45 Speaker 2: And it happened right in the town I live in.

1:12:49 Speaker 2: You know, I was driving home one day with my buddy.

1:12:51 Speaker 2: I was in the passenger seat, and we were driving

1:12:54 Speaker 2: down this road. You know, I drive at least two

1:12:56 Speaker 2: times every day, man, And we're driving down the road

1:13:00 Speaker 2: and it's probably one am at night somewhere around there,

1:13:03 Speaker 2: and I'm sitting in the seat and I just happen

1:13:05 Speaker 2: to look out the window and to my right, above

1:13:08 Speaker 2: someone's house, maybe thirty feet above their house, is this

1:13:13 Speaker 2: massive black triangle, and it's it's sitting there, and you know,

1:13:20 Speaker 2: I'm getting my buddy's attention, so he's looking at it too,

1:13:23 Speaker 2: and we're not trying to like steer off, but we

1:13:26 Speaker 2: keep going. And I noticed that on each side of

1:13:29 Speaker 2: the triangle I had, like you know how on a

1:13:31 Speaker 2: cruise ship it has like the port.

1:13:32 Speaker 1: Lights, yes, the porholes, Yeah.

1:13:34 Speaker 2: The portholes. Yeah, so each side had about I want

1:13:37 Speaker 2: to say five, but it's so it's so weird. When

1:13:39 Speaker 2: I try to recount it to it comes off so

1:13:41 Speaker 2: like hazy in a way, but so clear also.

1:13:45 Speaker 1: But that's common, is it? Yeah?

1:13:49 Speaker 2: Very I'm looking at it, man, and you know, like

1:13:53 Speaker 2: I said, it's it's big too. It's about the size

1:13:55 Speaker 2: of the house that it's over. It's about thirty feet

1:13:59 Speaker 2: above it, and it's just silently hovering there. We drive

1:14:02 Speaker 2: past it at this point. Now, brother, I got my

1:14:05 Speaker 2: body out the window and I'm actually like holding onto

1:14:07 Speaker 2: the car door to look at it behind us, and

1:14:10 Speaker 2: we get probably a quarter mile on it. When I

1:14:13 Speaker 2: see it, and I'll never forget this is the part

1:14:16 Speaker 2: that sent me over the edge. This is the part

1:14:18 Speaker 2: that actually had me like go frantic to my buddy,

1:14:22 Speaker 2: like it brought me to tears, Tyler. I saw this

1:14:25 Speaker 2: big black triangle, which I already knew shouldn't exist. There's

1:14:28 Speaker 2: no way this thing should be flying. It's not making

1:14:30 Speaker 2: any noise. I saw it like it was shot out.

1:14:33 Speaker 5: Of a gun.

1:14:33 Speaker 2: Dude go right into the sky and I only saw,

1:14:37 Speaker 2: you know how you see like the motion blurred to something, right,

1:14:40 Speaker 2: I just saw the motion blur, the white lights go

1:14:43 Speaker 2: up into the heavens, and just like that, the encounter

1:14:46 Speaker 2: was over. Probably lasted thirty seconds altogether, but it has

1:14:51 Speaker 2: instilled such a childlike wonder in me that I really

1:14:55 Speaker 2: haven't felt, and I was a young kid.

1:14:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, it will do that.

1:15:00 Speaker 2: That was an exciting feeling. Now the tumbling feeling that

1:15:07 Speaker 2: came after was nothing but fear, NonStop. What did I see?

1:15:12 Speaker 2: What is the capabilities that thing had? You know? This

1:15:15 Speaker 2: is this is probably only on all a mile away

1:15:18 Speaker 2: from my house. So it's like, how often is it

1:15:21 Speaker 2: around here? How often are they around here? Why was

1:15:24 Speaker 2: it over someone's house? You know what? What were its

1:15:27 Speaker 2: intentions in a residential area like this late at night?

1:15:30 Speaker 2: That started to freak.

1:15:31 Speaker 1: Flying at at very very low altitude.

1:15:37 Speaker 2: Very low altitude. Oh yeah, all together. Let's see if

1:15:39 Speaker 2: it's like thirty feet above the house, I mean I

1:15:42 Speaker 2: want to say, like fifty sixty feet all together in

1:15:44 Speaker 2: the air.

1:15:45 Speaker 1: Yeah it's not it's I mean we're talking treetop level here, yes.

1:15:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking treetop level here.

1:15:50 Speaker 1: And that's around that's about where mine was as well, Yeah,

1:15:55 Speaker 1: you know, treetop level. And it, like you said, comes over.

1:15:59 Speaker 1: I mean my just came right over me. Didn't make

1:16:01 Speaker 1: a noise, but was oscillating and moving forward at the

1:16:04 Speaker 1: same time. So it was making, you know, circle and

1:16:07 Speaker 1: then kept you know, was moving forward at a steady pace,

1:16:10 Speaker 1: just but no noise. And and it had like the

1:16:13 Speaker 1: three prominent whole what you call portholes. They didn't look

1:16:20 Speaker 1: like portholes to me, but it's that classic like three

1:16:25 Speaker 1: circles make a triangle. Look, you know, Okay, but the

1:16:29 Speaker 1: craft was lenticular. The craft itself was lenticular, but it

1:16:33 Speaker 1: had these three circles on the bottom that made a

1:16:37 Speaker 1: triangle if you were to draw a triangle to each

1:16:40 Speaker 1: of them, right, But yours was a black triangle. Now,

1:16:45 Speaker 1: I will say this about black triangle cases is those

1:16:49 Speaker 1: are at least, at least in my best judgment or

1:16:57 Speaker 1: my my best recollection, black triangle cases are the most

1:17:01 Speaker 1: commonly to be suspected to be human. Right, Like how

1:17:08 Speaker 1: you say that? So did you feel? Yeah, like, because

1:17:12 Speaker 1: I know when I saw what I saw, the first

1:17:16 Speaker 1: thing that came to mind was not from here, Like,

1:17:20 Speaker 1: this was not us When you saw what you saw?

1:17:24 Speaker 1: What feelings did you have? I know you had fear later,

1:17:28 Speaker 1: but what was the what was the connection?

1:17:34 Speaker 2: So I have no reason to go off of this.

1:17:39 Speaker 2: I have no reason to believe this. There's no real variable.

1:17:41 Speaker 2: Everything I saw that night, that this craft displayed was

1:17:44 Speaker 2: very uncharacteristic of any sort of human technology that I'm

1:17:48 Speaker 2: aware of. You know. But when I remember looking at it,

1:17:52 Speaker 2: and even now, when I sit here and really ponder,

1:17:55 Speaker 2: I let my gut do the thinking. What did I

1:17:57 Speaker 2: see that night? Just something strikes me so like, I

1:18:02 Speaker 2: don't know if I feel like I was being watched

1:18:03 Speaker 2: by an intelligence, but to me, the only intelligence I know.

1:18:07 Speaker 2: So I felt like I was being watched by humans

1:18:09 Speaker 2: from that craft. Something about it. It's it's a funky thing, man,

1:18:12 Speaker 2: because like I said, there's not one variable from the

1:18:14 Speaker 2: encounter that should give me this notion. But nonetheless, am

1:18:19 Speaker 2: I gut? I feel as if what I encountered that

1:18:21 Speaker 2: night was human was some sort of reverse engineer program.

1:18:25 Speaker 1: Interesting, and you're saying this, so someone asked, I put

1:18:29 Speaker 1: it in there, but this is in Pennsylvania, correct, Yeah.

1:18:33 Speaker 2: This was in central Pennsylvania outside of Harrisburg. The capital

1:18:38 Speaker 2: is a little community called Linglestown, So that's that's where

1:18:42 Speaker 2: it happened.

1:18:43 Speaker 1: Now, have you asked around and see or have you

1:18:49 Speaker 1: taken a look at any of the databases that are

1:18:51 Speaker 1: available to see if other people saw what you saw?

1:18:55 Speaker 2: From what I've gone through, no one's seen it. And

1:19:00 Speaker 2: there's a much lesser story that I don't tell nearly

1:19:03 Speaker 2: as much, because, you know, while the triangle kind of

1:19:06 Speaker 2: falls under the classification of upfront in my face, the

1:19:10 Speaker 2: other one that I tell a lot more reluctantly is

1:19:13 Speaker 2: I saw this orange orb far out in the sky

1:19:16 Speaker 2: one night. And this was a couple months after the triangle.

1:19:19 Speaker 2: Funny enough, and I've seen this orange orb outside my

1:19:22 Speaker 2: house and it was just kind of flickering around, going

1:19:24 Speaker 2: up and down in the middle of the night, and

1:19:26 Speaker 2: it kind of it was far away, and you know,

1:19:28 Speaker 2: it kind of get bright, then it gets dim, then

1:19:31 Speaker 2: get bright, then get dim and hop around. I didn't

1:19:34 Speaker 2: think much of it, and so I had gotten on

1:19:37 Speaker 2: read it and I was part of the UFO sub

1:19:40 Speaker 2: reddit and still am. And funny enough, someone had won

1:19:45 Speaker 2: a place, oh there or something great people ready to fight.

1:19:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you're posting anything.

1:19:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you're posting anything.

1:19:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, I let their vile.

1:19:58 Speaker 2: I love that come in for the first time and

1:20:02 Speaker 2: they see the starlink and they post it like.

1:20:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh rip them up crazy. I always cringe. I'm like, oh,

1:20:09 Speaker 1: you're about to get You.

1:20:12 Speaker 2: Got to let that account and just get a new one, brother,

1:20:17 Speaker 2: because they won't give you a fighting chance here. But

1:20:20 Speaker 2: that light I saw, funny enough, someone had been on

1:20:23 Speaker 2: the UFO suburd and posted pictures of what I'd seen,

1:20:27 Speaker 2: and so that really encouraged me to like dig deep

1:20:29 Speaker 2: in UFO encounters around here throughout the years because we

1:20:32 Speaker 2: also have TMI. I don't know if you ever heard

1:20:35 Speaker 2: anything about that, the Three Mile Island incident.

1:20:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Okay, so you know, for everyone else though,

1:20:43 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad you said that though, because for

1:20:45 Speaker 1: everybody else they were thinking too much information.

1:20:49 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess so yeah, yeah.

1:20:51 Speaker 1: Remember, yeah, we're not local to you.

1:20:53 Speaker 5: Yeah.

1:20:54 Speaker 2: So that was the Three Mile Island incident. That was

1:20:57 Speaker 2: a nuclear facility that had a bit of a meltdown.

1:20:59 Speaker 2: I want to say the seventies. I wanted to start

1:21:03 Speaker 2: there and try to see if they ever had any

1:21:06 Speaker 2: recordings or documentation of incidents. And then I moved around

1:21:10 Speaker 2: to my general area, and there are there are incidents

1:21:14 Speaker 2: that go back to the sixties at least that I've

1:21:16 Speaker 2: been able to found. Fine, but nothing triangular, nothing exactly

1:21:20 Speaker 2: what I saw. There are all various morphologies of the

1:21:23 Speaker 2: craft and characteristics kind of what you get when you

1:21:26 Speaker 2: go across the country or even the world and you

1:21:28 Speaker 2: look at different cases. They're a little different but alike

1:21:31 Speaker 2: to somebody, you know, relatively speaking.

1:21:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there is a regional thing like the tic TACs.

1:21:45 Speaker 1: He's always seen on the west coast, whereas the orbs

1:21:51 Speaker 1: are always the East coast. Right there are there are

1:21:54 Speaker 1: like regional but then there are obviously exceptions like it,

1:22:00 Speaker 1: like there are patterns that you can start to see.

1:22:04 Speaker 1: But someone brought it up. Did you ever think about

1:22:08 Speaker 1: knocking on that door of the house house, dude, I'm like, dude,

1:22:14 Speaker 1: I hate to ask anyone in this house get abducted.

1:22:18 Speaker 2: It freaks me out, Tyler, because I'll I you know,

1:22:24 Speaker 2: I got to bring you. You're definitely the spokesperson for

1:22:26 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, because you know, I live right

1:22:28 Speaker 2: down the street from this guy. And you know, you

1:22:31 Speaker 2: might even see my car because I'll spin the block

1:22:33 Speaker 2: from the residential area where I saw it, just to

1:22:36 Speaker 2: like tickle that part in my brain to revisit that

1:22:39 Speaker 2: night again. So like it's even a possibility they see

1:22:42 Speaker 2: me spin around sometimes just revisiting. So I feel weird asking,

1:22:46 Speaker 2: but you know, it's it's probably not a bad idea.

1:22:51 Speaker 1: No, no, I mean, if you want answer answers, Yeah,

1:22:54 Speaker 1: right there, there could be one in that house. Was

1:22:59 Speaker 1: it stationary over the house for a good period of time.

1:23:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, it never moved from the moment we so we're

1:23:06 Speaker 2: coming up on it, I see it right outside the windshield.

1:23:09 Speaker 1: Then we're you're positive it's not it's not making any movement.

1:23:13 Speaker 2: Positive positive. I mean I saw the house a silhouette

1:23:17 Speaker 2: from when it like shot up. It was still over it.

1:23:19 Speaker 2: By the time i'd gotten the quarter half mile, it

1:23:23 Speaker 2: was still very much so just like president where it

1:23:26 Speaker 2: had been. And you know, I know you talked about

1:23:30 Speaker 2: kind of oscillating and even do that around me. It

1:23:32 Speaker 2: was just as stagnant as could be, just floating there.

1:23:35 Speaker 2: It's kind of eerie, like like frozen.

1:23:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that is consistent. I mean, I mean everything

1:23:40 Speaker 1: you're saying is consistent with other black triangle cases. Right,

1:23:46 Speaker 1: it's it's it lines up. And and now did you

1:23:51 Speaker 1: see any I think I asked you this before, but

1:23:53 Speaker 1: did you see any seams, any rivets, or or or

1:23:58 Speaker 1: anything that could that could say one way or another. No,

1:24:05 Speaker 1: aside from the porthole.

1:24:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, aside from the poorhole. I mean, you know you

1:24:09 Speaker 2: could tell that it was like a black against the sky,

1:24:14 Speaker 2: but you know, outside the poortholes, it was just total

1:24:17 Speaker 2: black and like flushing itself seemless.

1:24:20 Speaker 5: Yeah.

1:24:21 Speaker 1: So so that event happened in what year?

1:24:24 Speaker 2: I want to say, twenty twenty two? Yeah, like December

1:24:27 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.

1:24:29 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, So you you have this experience and and

1:24:39 Speaker 1: then what right? Because there I call it the moment

1:24:44 Speaker 1: of conversion. I spoke to you about this. I think

1:24:49 Speaker 1: that that night after the hearing, after the moment of conversion,

1:24:55 Speaker 1: it's like it's it's kind of like your reality gets

1:24:58 Speaker 1: broken a little bit and you have to like kind

1:25:00 Speaker 1: of like piece it back together a little and assure

1:25:04 Speaker 1: yourself that you know you're not going crazy, you know this,

1:25:08 Speaker 1: and that you know all that kind of So, how

1:25:10 Speaker 1: is your moment of conversion.

1:25:13 Speaker 2: My moment conversion, I think was probably relatively easier than

1:25:18 Speaker 2: those of those who see it individually. I had someone,

1:25:23 Speaker 2: thank God, who saw it with me, and we were

1:25:26 Speaker 2: kind of able to rehash out the details over and

1:25:28 Speaker 2: over to each other and just just validate each other

1:25:30 Speaker 2: because neither of us wanted to believe what we just saw,

1:25:34 Speaker 2: you know, but there was no denying it. Confirmation came

1:25:38 Speaker 2: easy through that, and then a passion, a passion picked

1:25:41 Speaker 2: up right away after like the acceptance.

1:25:45 Speaker 1: And then you find yourself not even two years later,

1:25:52 Speaker 1: historic congressional hearing. So what made you get up and

1:25:59 Speaker 1: get in the car and drive to DC to see these.

1:26:04 Speaker 2: I wanted to see the fight, Tyler. I wanted. I wanted,

1:26:07 Speaker 2: like I said, I wanted to be validated outside of

1:26:09 Speaker 2: the immediate person I saw it with. I wanted to

1:26:12 Speaker 2: know that. I wanted to see the action taken to

1:26:15 Speaker 2: bring this thing to right a light because truly, in

1:26:18 Speaker 2: my heart, in my heart, the effect it leaves on

1:26:21 Speaker 2: the individual after seeing something so out of this world,

1:26:25 Speaker 2: so inhuman. I mean, I think every person who's seen

1:26:28 Speaker 2: one in our government keeps that information. I don't think

1:26:30 Speaker 2: that's right. I think you have a right to know

1:26:32 Speaker 2: as an American, as a human, what you saw. To

1:26:35 Speaker 2: whatever capacity we know of the information, I think, I

1:26:39 Speaker 2: truly think their gatekeeping something way deeper than just technology.

1:26:44 Speaker 2: I think it plays into what we are fundamentally. So

1:26:47 Speaker 2: when I went down there, I I just wanted to

1:26:52 Speaker 2: see the push for that. I wanted to see the

1:26:54 Speaker 2: legitimate push you know, you see it on the news.

1:26:56 Speaker 2: But I wanted to go shake hands. I wanted to

1:26:58 Speaker 2: talk to some of the peace people that fight the

1:27:00 Speaker 2: good fight. And that's exactly what I got to do, dude,

1:27:04 Speaker 2: And I was left nothing less than impressed by the

1:27:07 Speaker 2: efforts of you, by Mace, by Bob, I mean, outstanding workers,

1:27:12 Speaker 2: outstanding people. I got everything I wanted from that.

1:27:16 Speaker 1: How would you say that? How would you say that?

1:27:18 Speaker 1: The vibe was in line.

1:27:21 Speaker 2: Excited, excited, definitely kind of giddy, kind of like what's

1:27:25 Speaker 2: going on here? You know, you could tell everyone is

1:27:28 Speaker 2: kind of at a different point of like what this

1:27:30 Speaker 2: means to them. I mean I even saw some people

1:27:33 Speaker 2: with their kids in line, So you know, there's definitely

1:27:37 Speaker 2: overall excitement, giddiness. Like you know, there's definitely a bit

1:27:41 Speaker 2: of a novelty to the subject like we're talking about

1:27:44 Speaker 2: nhis on Capitol Hill. That was always, right, I think

1:27:47 Speaker 2: king someone's brain like that, right.

1:27:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean you got to see you got

1:27:54 Speaker 1: to see me from an outside perspective, which I think

1:27:59 Speaker 1: is funny to think about, right, because I always like

1:28:02 Speaker 1: to think about, like, all right, this guy, he got

1:28:05 Speaker 1: to see me be me, and now I get to

1:28:11 Speaker 1: talk to him. You know, it's it's it's it's different

1:28:13 Speaker 1: for me because you got to see me like like

1:28:17 Speaker 1: I was fucking running up and down that hallway that day,

1:28:22 Speaker 1: back and forth, up and down you were like it

1:28:24 Speaker 1: was just energy. The energy was just it was through

1:28:28 Speaker 1: the roof.

1:28:29 Speaker 2: It's my girlfriend. She pointed you out while you're running

1:28:32 Speaker 2: up and down the hall right, and she's like, you

1:28:34 Speaker 2: should talk to him, Like he looks like he knows

1:28:36 Speaker 2: what's going on. I'm like, I think I need like

1:28:39 Speaker 2: I think I need like a net to catch him.

1:28:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, just like.

1:28:43 Speaker 2: Throw over and get you.

1:28:44 Speaker 5: Dude.

1:28:44 Speaker 2: You were everywhere I thought you worked there. I thought

1:28:47 Speaker 2: you were trying to I thought you were a staffer

1:28:49 Speaker 2: just trying to make sure everything was going to plan,

1:28:51 Speaker 2: like there was room for people others.

1:28:54 Speaker 1: Uh, there was multiple people who thought I was Bob's handler,

1:28:59 Speaker 1: like that I that I was his representation because they

1:29:03 Speaker 1: would they were like they would say to me, because

1:29:07 Speaker 1: I know people don't know that. Uh, Bob's Alice, his

1:29:10 Speaker 1: wife and I are. We talk on the phone like

1:29:14 Speaker 1: like we're very close. We become very close. And I'm

1:29:18 Speaker 1: also very close to other guests that I've had Onke

1:29:20 Speaker 1: Mario Woods. You know, I get to know these people's families.

1:29:24 Speaker 1: And that's the difference between me and other hosts of podcasts.

1:29:27 Speaker 1: I would I would say, is I like take a time.

1:29:30 Speaker 1: I take the time to show that interest and too

1:29:34 Speaker 1: to further it. So I was given a job by

1:29:39 Speaker 1: Bob's wife and it was get him in that fucking room.

1:29:43 Speaker 1: So I did everything that I needed to because I

1:29:47 Speaker 1: knew I was getting in right like I already had.

1:29:51 Speaker 1: I still have it hung up right here, the little paper.

1:29:54 Speaker 1: You can see it, a little part of it, the

1:29:57 Speaker 1: paper that had my name and show on it. So

1:29:59 Speaker 1: I a seat reserved for me, right, but Bob didn't.

1:30:04 Speaker 1: So that's why I went. I stood in line at

1:30:06 Speaker 1: four am. You know, I hate to throw shade on

1:30:09 Speaker 1: people like Jesse Michael's but they showed up like twenty

1:30:12 Speaker 1: minutes before the hearing maybe and uh, you know, it

1:30:16 Speaker 1: just felt like like do you do you remember when

1:30:20 Speaker 1: they came in. It was like a big deal. It

1:30:23 Speaker 1: was like that's when like a camera started flooding. Yeah,

1:30:28 Speaker 1: because that's when James Fox came in. That's when, like

1:30:31 Speaker 1: I said, Jesse came in. Uh, Danny Sheenk re emerged,

1:30:37 Speaker 1: Ryan Graves popped up, and it was just that moment

1:30:42 Speaker 1: was very big. So I was just like, you know,

1:30:47 Speaker 1: for us that we were there, for all of us,

1:30:50 Speaker 1: we were all just like like it just you know

1:30:55 Speaker 1: what I mean, It just was like, why didn't you

1:30:57 Speaker 1: guys like come for the party, like like you know,

1:31:00 Speaker 1: because we had we had fun.

1:31:02 Speaker 2: We had fun with yard chairs out there, lawn chairs

1:31:06 Speaker 2: you know.

1:31:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, they were very serious about that list.

1:31:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that's something I should have brought

1:31:13 Speaker 2: up earlier when you asked about the energy and the line.

1:31:15 Speaker 2: I mean, you had people with four cups of coffee

1:31:18 Speaker 2: ben here hours in a in a lawn share just

1:31:21 Speaker 2: kind of like I don't even know if they're gonna

1:31:24 Speaker 2: like stay awake during the hearing. They're just tired looking.

1:31:29 Speaker 2: So but you know, just to see people go to

1:31:31 Speaker 2: that extent like this was a concert, like you know

1:31:35 Speaker 2: Guns N' Roses last tour concert, people lined up like

1:31:39 Speaker 2: half awake outside. That was that was amazing to see.

1:31:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was. It really And and then to

1:31:46 Speaker 1: watch it unfold, the hearing itself unfold, like there are

1:31:51 Speaker 1: moments where I was pinching like my leg, you know,

1:31:54 Speaker 1: because I I feel like I was led down this

1:31:58 Speaker 1: path And it all started in a very very bleak place, right,

1:32:05 Speaker 1: you know, on my mother's deathbed, right, But I carried

1:32:08 Speaker 1: her into that hearing with her ashes they were with me,

1:32:13 Speaker 1: So I brought her into that hearing room with me.

1:32:15 Speaker 1: And you know, she's been with me at every big stage,

1:32:21 Speaker 1: every big step, and it just seems like I just

1:32:25 Speaker 1: keep and finding myself in the right place at the

1:32:29 Speaker 1: right time. Right, talk to this person, talk to that person,

1:32:34 Speaker 1: get this person to talk to this person. You know,

1:32:36 Speaker 1: it's it's it's just been it seems too intelligent. You know,

1:32:44 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem coincidence. Like I don't believe in it anymore.

1:32:47 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as coincidence. Me and Bob on

1:32:51 Speaker 1: the phone talked about what are the millions of things

1:32:56 Speaker 1: that had to go right to it for me and

1:33:01 Speaker 1: him to connect so that I could get him into

1:33:04 Speaker 1: that meeting at that time on that day, which we

1:33:08 Speaker 1: didn't know that we were both going to be there,

1:33:10 Speaker 1: you know what I mean until like about a week before.

1:33:13 Speaker 1: It was just like the stars had to really align.

1:33:15 Speaker 1: I wasn't going right, I wasn't even going to the

1:33:19 Speaker 1: hearings until Congressman Burchett asked me to go or or

1:33:23 Speaker 1: brought it up then, because for me, I was just

1:33:27 Speaker 1: gonna stream it and do what I did for the

1:33:29 Speaker 1: first one. But when he invited me down, it like

1:33:32 Speaker 1: it put this spark inside of me and it was like, no,

1:33:35 Speaker 1: I need to go, but I need to do this,

1:33:39 Speaker 1: and yeah, slowly over a couple of days, then I

1:33:43 Speaker 1: bought the ticket, the ticket, uh, the flight in the hotel.

1:33:48 Speaker 1: Then you know, everything unfolds. It folded from there just

1:33:53 Speaker 1: I don't know it was it was. It was almost

1:33:54 Speaker 1: like it was too perfect, and uh, it went too perfect.

1:34:00 Speaker 1: That's why I got sick when I got home.

1:34:04 Speaker 2: Right right, too excited out in the cold. Your body

1:34:07 Speaker 2: doesn't know what to do. It's just so much in

1:34:09 Speaker 2: the extreme.

1:34:10 Speaker 1: Yes, I actually have Bob Salice's scarf still I did you. Yeah,

1:34:15 Speaker 1: I accidentally stole it. Yeah he did, he did, he does,

1:34:19 Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, So when we go out there, and

1:34:24 Speaker 1: when we go out there in twenty twenty five, I'll

1:34:27 Speaker 1: be returning it to him.

1:34:29 Speaker 2: Got to give it back to him.

1:34:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's but anyway, I do want to say thank you,

1:34:36 Speaker 1: uh for coming on today and being a part of this.

1:34:38 Speaker 1: I know it wasn't like super orthodox. This is not

1:34:41 Speaker 1: usually how I do things like this, but I thought

1:34:44 Speaker 1: it'd be a fun way to kind of unveil this video,

1:34:48 Speaker 1: uh and also be able to have a discussion as

1:34:51 Speaker 1: well about the hearings, because I haven't really talked about them,

1:34:54 Speaker 1: uh since I came back. So I really do appreciate

1:34:57 Speaker 1: you doing this, Tyler shit, you.

1:35:00 Speaker 2: Just bringing me in, just you know, just someone that

1:35:03 Speaker 2: just happened to be at that hearing that I had

1:35:06 Speaker 2: a passion towards it and that was something worth bringing

1:35:08 Speaker 2: onto your show, to you and giving me, you know,

1:35:10 Speaker 2: a platform to at least tell my story. And well,

1:35:13 Speaker 2: you know, now I can I have a platform. I

1:35:16 Speaker 2: can look at the camera, I can say thank you,

1:35:18 Speaker 2: Tyler for yielding your time. This is on the record.

1:35:22 Speaker 2: Thank you, Nancy, Thank you Tim. Thank you, Bob, I

1:35:25 Speaker 2: mean everyone that pushes for this and will help me

1:35:28 Speaker 2: get an answer one day.

1:35:31 Speaker 1: That's all.

1:35:31 Speaker 5: I love it.

1:35:32 Speaker 1: That's that's that was quite the quite the response. I

1:35:37 Speaker 1: appreciate that. And then so you said, you're coming up

1:35:43 Speaker 1: this way to Massachusetts, Boston area, so I'll probably have

1:35:48 Speaker 1: you in studio and we'll get to really hash out

1:35:51 Speaker 1: some of the details of your story. And so we'll

1:35:54 Speaker 1: get into some real deep conversation about you know, ancient civilization,

1:36:01 Speaker 1: what you know, you know, could we be a seated

1:36:04 Speaker 1: uh seeded from an alien intelligence?

1:36:09 Speaker 5: You know?

1:36:10 Speaker 1: Could that be our origin story? Why don't we have

1:36:14 Speaker 1: our origin story? What do you think our origin story is?

1:36:17 Speaker 1: And we'll get into all sorts right there. But yeah,

1:36:24 Speaker 1: all right, man, and I know you just created Twitter. Sorry,

1:36:29 Speaker 1: you created an X account. I still can't get used

1:36:32 Speaker 1: to it. Where can people find you? And where can

1:36:36 Speaker 1: people hang out?

1:36:37 Speaker 2: It is so fresh I have to go ahead and

1:36:39 Speaker 2: check the handle.

1:36:40 Speaker 5: Right.

1:36:41 Speaker 2: Oh, so God underscore Duke Underscore, that's one hundred Tomson reference.

1:36:50 Speaker 1: Yes, I do like his music.

1:36:53 Speaker 2: Wait no, that's wait.

1:36:56 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait, yeah, I'm saying there's multiple because

1:36:59 Speaker 1: now they think there's there's a there's another one.

1:37:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Hunter S. Thompson is how I just said it?

1:37:06 Speaker 2: That's usually.

1:37:08 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not confused. Is there a

1:37:11 Speaker 1: country singer with that name? I don't know.

1:37:17 Speaker 2: We need a Jamie.

1:37:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need a young Jamie, young Jamie looking. But yeah,

1:37:24 Speaker 1: all right, yeah no, so thank you so much.

1:37:28 Speaker 2: You got it boss anytime. Man. I love the topic.

1:37:31 Speaker 2: I love doing whatever I can for it. Seriously, it

1:37:35 Speaker 2: can be daunting for me just coming into this. I'm

1:37:38 Speaker 2: not really sure how to be as productive as possible

1:37:40 Speaker 2: pushing the agenda here. But you know, whatever groups you

1:37:44 Speaker 2: can give me to hold on to, dude, I'll hold

1:37:46 Speaker 2: on to him and for life.

1:37:48 Speaker 1: Well, we'll introduce you to people and uh, like I said,

1:37:51 Speaker 1: you're gonna be helping me with uh you know, I

1:37:54 Speaker 1: need help with with like you know, assistance with cameras

1:37:58 Speaker 1: and all the gear and stuff like that. So you know,

1:38:02 Speaker 1: we talked about it, uh off the record, so you know, uh,

1:38:06 Speaker 1: I think people uh should should expect to see more

1:38:10 Speaker 1: of you.

1:38:10 Speaker 2: So awesome, brother man.

1:38:13 Speaker 1: All right, tell the tell the lady. I said, hello,

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