Mystery Object Baffles Scientists! COSMIC Contact with 3i/ATLAS? DISCLOSED

0:11 Speaker 1: Cary that keeps playing twice. I don't know why. God.

0:13 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, truth seekers and mystery hunters, Welcome to

0:19 Speaker 1: the inaugural episode of Disclosed, your Thursday Night rendezvous with

0:24 Speaker 1: the strange, the unexplained, and the downright mind bending. I'm

0:29 Speaker 1: Ty Roberts, and I'm going to be joined tonight by

0:32 Speaker 1: the brilliant and bold Cari Lindsay. And tonight, guys, better

0:37 Speaker 1: buckle up. We've got a lineup that'll make you questioned

0:40 Speaker 1: reality itself and whether we're living in the matrix. First up,

0:44 Speaker 1: you guys, remember that booga spear. Yeah, the mysterious little

0:48 Speaker 1: ball that's been giving scientists migraines for months and months

0:52 Speaker 1: and months. I do well. It's finally been carbon dated,

0:56 Speaker 1: and let's just say that the results aren't exactly helping

0:58 Speaker 1: anyone sleep easier night. Spoiler alert, They might this car,

1:03 Speaker 1: this fucking Bouga sphere might predate Mitch McConnell, where I'm

1:07 Speaker 1: still waiting for that report. Of course, it doesn't stop there.

1:11 Speaker 1: UAPs are shutting down airports around the world when these

1:15 Speaker 1: things pop up. Flights stop. Forget whether today weather delays.

1:20 Speaker 1: We're now dealing with alien traffic control. Let's see someone

1:24 Speaker 1: else delta kind of, you know, try to push that

1:27 Speaker 1: as a force masure at God. And then there's three

1:31 Speaker 1: eye at lists.

1:32 Speaker 2: Uh.

1:32 Speaker 1: There are many thoughts on this interstellar object. Some are

1:35 Speaker 1: saying it's just a rock, a normal commet tumbling through

1:39 Speaker 1: the galaxy, simply passing by, while others say it might

1:43 Speaker 1: not be so normal. With the material composition data that's

1:46 Speaker 1: coming out. This thing could be the cosmic equivalent of

1:50 Speaker 1: your nosy neighbor peeking through the blinds. Who knows October

1:53 Speaker 1: is going to be interesting as Atlas makes its closest approach. Guys,

1:58 Speaker 1: be vigilant. Uh, this is when you kind of have

2:00 Speaker 1: to watch out for people asking you to drink the

2:02 Speaker 1: kool aid, if you know what I mean. Oh, and

2:06 Speaker 1: Arrow the All Domain and OMID Resolution Office for short

2:10 Speaker 1: drop some d uapad videos and finally updated that doss

2:14 Speaker 1: based website that they were using breadcrumbs distractions. I don't

2:18 Speaker 1: know Carey and I are going to break it all down,

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3:17 Speaker 1: questions are sharp. Let's get into it, disclosed. Start snap. Well,

3:32 Speaker 1: I just I tripped over my words a bunch, good day,

3:36 Speaker 1: good day, what's up? So I thought, before.

3:40 Speaker 3: We go any further, I fixed the problem with the

3:43 Speaker 3: video playing twice. I had hit a loop button. That

3:45 Speaker 3: was my fault. So I was like, why I know.

3:49 Speaker 3: I realized I was like, oh, that was me, that

3:51 Speaker 3: was me. Hello, everybody, this is disclosed. We were off

3:55 Speaker 3: to an awesome start already.

3:56 Speaker 1: Hello, Yeah, I did you sow the car been dating joke?

4:01 Speaker 1: I thought that was going to hit harder and then

4:03 Speaker 1: I forgot it halfway through. But yeah, so so it

4:10 Speaker 1: was that, it was so it was well, no, it

4:17 Speaker 1: was to actually talking about the Karen dating of buga spear.

4:20 Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, it might even be older than Mitch McConnell.

4:24 Speaker 1: We're still waiting on that. So but yeah, So Cary

4:30 Speaker 1: and I have been talking. He's they've been doing a

4:33 Speaker 1: lot of editing for the show, and we thought that

4:36 Speaker 1: would be kind of cool to do something more consistently.

4:39 Speaker 1: We we're engaging with people, engaging with the audience. Uh,

4:43 Speaker 1: and a weekly show has been something that used to

4:46 Speaker 1: do with Pop Culture Corner and it's something I really

4:48 Speaker 1: really miss kind of just be able to kick back

4:51 Speaker 1: the shoes off literally and uh talk about the things

4:55 Speaker 1: we love with the people in the community that I

4:57 Speaker 1: love and Cary I couldn't the I mean, we have

5:01 Speaker 1: very different perspectives. So maybe if you want to reintroduce yourself.

5:06 Speaker 3: Hi, that so my name's carried and see. You may

5:09 Speaker 3: know me from uh the Dark Places of Uthology known

5:13 Speaker 3: as Stephen Cambion's Truth Seekers Show. And I also and

5:18 Speaker 3: I also I worked on the docu series with Darcy

5:21 Speaker 3: Wick called Dark Alliance The Inside Story of the Cosmic

5:23 Speaker 3: con which explored the story of Corey Good the fake

5:28 Speaker 3: secret Space program Insider. That's on streaming platforms. You can

5:32 Speaker 3: find out on Amazon and Google. Just had to get

5:35 Speaker 3: my little plug in there. And I'm here to have

5:38 Speaker 3: an engaging dialogue. I feel. I feel like that's something

5:40 Speaker 3: that euthology is absolutely lacking, is the ability to look

5:44 Speaker 3: at the events that are going on, analyze them, and

5:48 Speaker 3: look at the actual facts and then have a conversation.

5:50 Speaker 3: And if if me and Tyler disagree, that's okay. We're

5:54 Speaker 3: not We're not going to jump down in tevist rights.

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5:57 Speaker 3: just going to have a conversation and that that's that's

6:00 Speaker 3: what we're endeavoring to give to you, and we're going

6:03 Speaker 3: to present evidence and you guys can make your own decisions,

6:06 Speaker 3: but what you believe and let us know in the comments,

6:08 Speaker 3: Like it's it's an ongoing dialogue. And if we disagree,

6:11 Speaker 3: that's okay, Yeah, without further ado.

6:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, And and one last thing, and we'll try not

6:19 Speaker 1: to keep talking over each other. Well, well that was

6:22 Speaker 1: a given. No, that was my fault. I do that

6:24 Speaker 1: a lot. The last thing is the audience. I really

6:28 Speaker 1: want to be the third host, you know, So any

6:32 Speaker 1: any super chats, any donations, any memberships, obviously, you know,

6:36 Speaker 1: we want to make a point of including the guys

6:38 Speaker 1: in the discussion. And I truly mean it, like when

6:43 Speaker 1: I say that I come here to have conversations with

6:46 Speaker 1: the community because you know, you guys are just the

6:49 Speaker 1: best and and I've always really appreciated, uh, the UFO world.

6:55 Speaker 1: There's some really smart people, but there's also people we

6:57 Speaker 1: need to watch out for. So there's okay. One of

7:02 Speaker 1: the one of the first story we're starting with, Cari

7:05 Speaker 1: is this. I've been hearing reports all this week about

7:10 Speaker 1: so that the drones are coming back up and shutting

7:15 Speaker 1: down airports and Copenhagen other places around the globe. What's

7:21 Speaker 1: going on with these drones or what the UFO community

7:26 Speaker 1: just decides our UFOs right.

7:30 Speaker 3: Right, So to understand the situation, let's let's go back

7:33 Speaker 3: to the beginning. So the other night, around nine point

7:37 Speaker 3: thirty at night in I believe Copenhagen. Let me double

7:41 Speaker 3: chat YEP with Copenhagen. So there was a unidentified craft

7:49 Speaker 3: that flew over the airport and caused a huge ruckus.

7:53 Speaker 3: It was a big WTF moment and the shutdown the airport,

7:58 Speaker 3: planes had to be rere and all this stuff. Then

8:01 Speaker 3: videos started coming out, and the UFO community does what

8:04 Speaker 3: it does, and they jumped to the most extreme solution

8:08 Speaker 3: instead of relying on some impertal days and making make

8:12 Speaker 3: an informed decision about what it was. So I'm going

8:15 Speaker 3: to share my screen and we're gonna we're gonna go

8:17 Speaker 3: through a couple of things.

8:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is again if you guys will remember

8:24 Speaker 1: last what is it? Last November December, and actually even

8:28 Speaker 1: the prop the previous November December, the United States, the

8:33 Speaker 1: East Coast, New Jersey drones overlaying the Air Force base.

8:36 Speaker 1: This has been something that for some reason just keeps

8:41 Speaker 1: happening and and the UFO community is taking it and

8:44 Speaker 1: they're running with it and and I don't know if

8:46 Speaker 1: that's for clicks and try to make the subject relevant,

8:51 Speaker 1: but all it's really doing is hurting credibility.

8:54 Speaker 3: I agree, I absolutely agree. So here is the one

8:57 Speaker 3: of the original videos taken in the app of this

9:02 Speaker 3: this kind of wing looking craft flying over the airport.

9:08 Speaker 3: So I will say this, if it looks anomalous, right yeah.

9:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, the weird green hue I think adds to the

9:17 Speaker 1: to the mystery of it. How it's being filmed is

9:20 Speaker 1: clearly that. So my problem here is the people on

9:25 Speaker 1: the ground. So these you can't just walk onto a

9:27 Speaker 1: runway like that unless you're you know, part of working

9:31 Speaker 1: at the airport. So a lot of people what they're

9:33 Speaker 1: saying is that that video, how is someone who works

9:37 Speaker 1: with airplanes misidentifying an airplane? It's like, you know what

9:42 Speaker 1: I mean.

9:44 Speaker 3: Well, I mean that that's a good question, and I

9:47 Speaker 3: mean that's a question for the person that filmed the video,

9:50 Speaker 3: right because if we uh, In fact, I think I

9:53 Speaker 3: have a higher here. So here's a slightly higher quality version. See,

9:59 Speaker 3: I think we're looking at a so we're looking at

10:03 Speaker 3: it through I think I think we're looking at it

10:05 Speaker 3: through glass, so we're getting slight kind of yep.

10:11 Speaker 1: So the only thing I'm not seeing here, admittedly is

10:16 Speaker 1: traditional air traffic lights like one on each side blinking.

10:22 Speaker 1: So but again you're saying that on flight radar, this

10:27 Speaker 1: this craft is transponding.

10:30 Speaker 3: Yes, so I'll share that time now and we'll go

10:33 Speaker 3: to it. So because at that time, isn't this over

10:40 Speaker 3: Because and this is my theory, it caused a flap,

10:46 Speaker 3: So the airport gets shut down and there's reports of

10:49 Speaker 3: lights and then maybe there were drones at the other airports.

10:54 Speaker 3: But this initial event, it was a trackable plane that

11:00 Speaker 3: flew over the over the airport slowly twice. And that's

11:05 Speaker 3: that's the flight path it took. Oh, it's pretty fit.

11:09 Speaker 1: It does go right over the air beside.

11:11 Speaker 3: So it's interesting to note. So it flew over eight

11:14 Speaker 3: seventeen and eight nineteen and seven minutes later is when

11:17 Speaker 3: they closed the airport.

11:20 Speaker 1: Wow.

11:21 Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like that's pretty cut and dry

11:24 Speaker 3: as to what the cause of that airport shutdown was. Now,

11:27 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's the same for the Oslo airport.

11:31 Speaker 3: I think that could just be people reporting drones, whether

11:34 Speaker 3: there were drones or not, because I've heard conflicting reports

11:37 Speaker 3: about whether people have actually syndrones or they've shut it down.

11:42 Speaker 3: In case they're are drones and they're investigating. But what

11:46 Speaker 3: I mean, if if anyone in the chat can comment

11:49 Speaker 3: and let us know, that would be great. But from

11:51 Speaker 3: what everything I've seen, like the one bona Fide trackable

11:55 Speaker 3: event was the first one and that was a plane.

11:58 Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, I do want to say this. So

12:05 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone's ever flown drones before, but

12:10 Speaker 1: they and the moment you hit restricted airspace the most

12:16 Speaker 1: commercially available drone like, so these are if they are drones,

12:22 Speaker 1: they're not people like us flying them. It's either some

12:27 Speaker 1: sort of nation state like Russia, China actually those two

12:32 Speaker 1: maybe even you know the old the old Israel, who knows,

12:37 Speaker 1: I won't I don't want to get canceled or anything,

12:40 Speaker 1: but commercial drones when they hit that air space of

12:46 Speaker 1: a restricted airspace, the drone literally turns in most cases,

12:51 Speaker 1: turns around and returns to send her as soon as

12:55 Speaker 1: you try crossing that path that threshold. So these aren't

12:58 Speaker 1: just DGI drone. These are high capacity, high battery and

13:04 Speaker 1: they can like stay in the air long and they're big.

13:07 Speaker 1: So at least those are the ones that were being

13:08 Speaker 1: seen over the East Coast that caused that flap, most

13:11 Speaker 1: recently over the United States. Now, could it be happening

13:14 Speaker 1: over in Oslo, in other airports in you know, the

13:18 Speaker 1: UK some places I've heard of. Yeah, and then Scandinavia.

13:23 Speaker 1: There was the press conference where the woman she literally

13:27 Speaker 1: said it. The woman said, you know, I want this

13:30 Speaker 1: to be unexplained, honestly, but what I think it is

13:34 Speaker 1: is Russia or China and she she she says that

13:40 Speaker 1: you know, it's most likely drones. So again, I think

13:43 Speaker 1: people are taking this topic of drones and you know,

13:47 Speaker 1: the the the discourse between it's kind of like what

13:52 Speaker 1: is a whistleblower?

13:53 Speaker 3: Right?

13:53 Speaker 1: What is a UFO?

13:57 Speaker 3: Right, Let's get into the kind of linguistic semantics. But

14:02 Speaker 3: it the definitions are changing. I think of what we

14:06 Speaker 3: colloquially as a society think about these things. I just

14:10 Speaker 3: a side note on the on the the East Coast flat.

14:13 Speaker 3: I've I've got my own kind of pet theory about

14:17 Speaker 3: that that it was like there's like drones that can

14:24 Speaker 3: they put them out to detect like nuclear material, and

14:29 Speaker 3: that I read I heard reports at the time that

14:32 Speaker 3: there was there was some kind of nuclear material miss,

14:36 Speaker 3: some kind of intelligent snapoo and there was nuclear material missing,

14:40 Speaker 3: and that they were searching for it. Now, this could

14:42 Speaker 3: just be tinfoil from the internet. I'm going to preface

14:47 Speaker 3: me saying all that with that. But it was interesting

14:50 Speaker 3: and it certainly seemed more plausible than than aliens. So

14:55 Speaker 3: you know, and that would they tell us? Would they

14:57 Speaker 3: tell us if there was nuclear material like loose in

15:01 Speaker 3: on the East Coast? I don't think they would tell

15:02 Speaker 3: us if there was.

15:04 Speaker 1: Sorry, no, but I will say this, I got a

15:07 Speaker 1: message on signal from someone in Congress that stated just

15:14 Speaker 1: exactly what you just said. They said, they said to me,

15:18 Speaker 1: and I will show you privately so you know that

15:21 Speaker 1: I'm telling the truth.

15:22 Speaker 3: I cannot I think I know who you're talking about.

15:24 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they they they said it to me. They

15:27 Speaker 1: said that that's what they think is going on. And

15:29 Speaker 1: that's why I because I was going to go to

15:31 Speaker 1: New Jersey at the time that this was all happening.

15:34 Speaker 1: And then I was like, you know what, not worth it,

15:37 Speaker 1: Not not gonna do that, Not gonna take that chance.

15:40 Speaker 1: But that's a worst case scenario, is some sort of

15:45 Speaker 1: nuclear material, some sort of bad actor. Having said nuclear material,

15:50 Speaker 1: and I know that there have been reports of material

15:55 Speaker 1: god missing, and that is of grave concern.

16:00 Speaker 3: It is, it should be of concerned everybody. I just

16:04 Speaker 3: had an interesting thought. So it's this this comment Gene Sticko.

16:10 Speaker 3: So my guess is Russian testing such broken session antagonizing

16:13 Speaker 3: launching from Kaliningrad enclaves separated by Lithuania on the Baltic Sea.

16:17 Speaker 3: It's a nuke based for Russia as well. It got

16:20 Speaker 3: me thinking that maybe, so this one's clearly a plane,

16:23 Speaker 3: but the other ones, how would you want to capitalize

16:27 Speaker 3: on destabilizing NATO and the West and whatnot? During this

16:33 Speaker 3: flap you have the first event and then you have

16:37 Speaker 3: Russian drones then piggyback on it to test response times. Right,

16:42 Speaker 3: that could just be you know, that could just be

16:44 Speaker 3: some tinfoil. But what it's about what makes more logical

16:49 Speaker 3: sense aliens or some geopolitical stuff considering NATO is doing

16:55 Speaker 3: like nuclear drills this week with strategic bombers flying over

17:01 Speaker 3: from America. They're they're flying over Europe and stuff. So

17:06 Speaker 3: really there's a lot, Yeah, there's a lot more going

17:09 Speaker 3: on in the geopolitical context than just these airports shutting down.

17:12 Speaker 3: There's stuff going on around that. So I don't think

17:20 Speaker 3: do we.

17:20 Speaker 1: Know how long the airport was shut down for.

17:25 Speaker 3: Suble Look, that's actually something I did not find, so

17:29 Speaker 3: let's have a look. Sorry if my typing is very loud.

17:36 Speaker 4: I can't spell.

17:41 Speaker 3: I should have got this before we went on there. Sorry, audience.

17:45 Speaker 3: So nearly four nearly four hours, that is a long time.

17:50 Speaker 3: It is a long time, but like it's also not

17:53 Speaker 3: that long. Considering what they thought.

17:57 Speaker 1: What do you say to the passengers? Do you say

18:00 Speaker 1: I wonder what they said to the passengers. Did they say, listen,

18:03 Speaker 1: we have an unknown craft.

18:07 Speaker 3: An airspace violation, probably some nondescript language where it's yeah,

18:12 Speaker 3: we had an air space vile because it makes it

18:13 Speaker 3: sound more run of the mill if you say it

18:15 Speaker 3: like that, we had an airspace violation and some because

18:18 Speaker 3: they then the passengers are then going to think, oh,

18:23 Speaker 3: it's probably just a plane messed up on approach or.

18:27 Speaker 5: Right.

18:27 Speaker 3: But then when it shuts down for hours and hours.

18:30 Speaker 3: I guess there's two stories, Like there's an initial oh,

18:32 Speaker 3: there's this, and then there's probably after a few hours

18:35 Speaker 3: and the passages are still like, why can we not

18:36 Speaker 3: get off this plane? So there's probably another story, But

18:40 Speaker 3: i'd want to talk to someone who was on one

18:42 Speaker 3: of those planes and find out what they were told.

18:44 Speaker 3: But I haven't seen anybody saying there on one of

18:48 Speaker 3: these planes, so I don't know.

18:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and uh, you know this object, this topic,

18:54 Speaker 1: I mean, this specific topic of the day. I mean again,

19:00 Speaker 1: it doesn't excite me because drones and this whole thing.

19:04 Speaker 1: And we're actually gonna get to this later with the

19:06 Speaker 1: hell fire missile videos. There is a lot of misidentification.

19:12 Speaker 1: And anybody in the UFO community at least that that's

19:16 Speaker 1: worth their salt right and knows what they're talking about,

19:20 Speaker 1: will tell you that ninety five and I'm being very

19:24 Speaker 1: generous with that ninety five ninety five percent of sighting

19:30 Speaker 1: can be explained by prosaic or you know, prosaic objects

19:35 Speaker 1: or normal conditions misidentifications. That last five percent is where

19:42 Speaker 1: the anomalies are, and I'd say it's more like half

19:46 Speaker 1: a percent one percent.

19:48 Speaker 3: I'm very glad you brought up a normalous sightings because

19:51 Speaker 3: that is an excellent segue to our next segment about

19:54 Speaker 3: the unresolved hour video. Yeah, so should we do you

19:59 Speaker 3: have any final thoughts on the on the strength flap.

20:02 Speaker 1: I think we need to be very very careful about

20:05 Speaker 1: using the word UFO when it comes to these drunes.

20:10 Speaker 1: I mean we know that I listen, don't take whatever

20:15 Speaker 1: the government's telling you at face value, do the research,

20:19 Speaker 1: do the independent, trust and verify.

20:22 Speaker 5: Right.

20:23 Speaker 1: But also it's okay if it's just a drone, right,

20:27 Speaker 1: because we have other things to focus on. So part

20:30 Speaker 1: of what we're supposed to be doing is sifting through,

20:33 Speaker 1: pushing everything that's not worth our time to the side.

20:38 Speaker 1: Just because it's the twenty four hour news cycle and

20:40 Speaker 1: it's a headline today doesn't mean that it's actually you know,

20:44 Speaker 1: once you find the answer, it's it's over at that point,

20:47 Speaker 1: like move on, And that's what we're just going to

20:49 Speaker 1: do right now. So let's move on to something a

20:51 Speaker 1: little bit more fun.

20:52 Speaker 3: Let's move on, sir. So let's next. It is next

20:56 Speaker 3: up is I don't have to share my tap for that.

20:59 Speaker 3: So the next is Erro. As you were saying in

21:02 Speaker 3: the intro, they finally updated their doss website. So they

21:11 Speaker 3: finally did an update with a bunch of videos, and

21:16 Speaker 3: I think there was five five resolved videos as balloons.

21:21 Speaker 3: One as a non anomalous phenomenon I guess like some

21:25 Speaker 3: like a lightning bug or something, and then there's one

21:28 Speaker 3: unresolved video. We actually have a government released unresolved video

21:32 Speaker 3: from ERROW, so we're gonna look at it. And I

21:36 Speaker 3: had to make an account with the the the I

21:38 Speaker 3: have not seen Naval Intelligence Video Service or what the

21:42 Speaker 3: dvids to get the high resolution version of this video.

21:45 Speaker 3: So we're gonna go over it right now.

21:49 Speaker 1: I have not seen these videos, so the.

21:54 Speaker 3: All Domin Resolution Office could not identify this. Okay, so

22:02 Speaker 3: this was taken over over the skies of Africa.

22:09 Speaker 1: It's doing weird Digsact Figure eight.

22:13 Speaker 3: So I've been I watched this earlier today and I

22:16 Speaker 3: was trying to figure out is this the camera moving

22:21 Speaker 3: and like the drone flying because obviously it's it's flying,

22:27 Speaker 3: And then is it the camera moving or is it

22:29 Speaker 3: the object moving? And the drone is fairly stationary because

22:33 Speaker 3: you can see it banking there. See what are some.

22:38 Speaker 6: Seizure what's targeting? This looks like a ground based It

22:48 Speaker 6: doesn't look like this is flying.

22:51 Speaker 3: No, you see the top right where it's jangling, So

22:55 Speaker 3: that's the that's the the wing action and the gyro

22:59 Speaker 3: stable against.

23:00 Speaker 1: Oh oh okay, okay, okay, I see it.

23:04 Speaker 3: You can see you can see it, you can Yeah,

23:05 Speaker 3: you can see the bottom ground.

23:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I see I see it.

23:10 Speaker 4: Now.

23:11 Speaker 1: That's interesting, that's interesting. But there's just not enough.

23:17 Speaker 3: Right, there's not enough. I mean, it's a story of

23:20 Speaker 3: Error's life, right, never enough detail. But it's interesting that

23:25 Speaker 3: they would put put that out. I'm kind of questioning,

23:31 Speaker 3: like if if it's you leaving up to the public, Like,

23:34 Speaker 3: if it's unresolved, what's the virtue in releasing it? Are

23:39 Speaker 3: they throwing a bone? Are they trying to, like you

23:41 Speaker 3: said earlier, like breadcrumbs, trying to distract people? Because I

23:45 Speaker 3: don't think in releasing something if they don't know what

23:48 Speaker 3: it is, well, I.

23:50 Speaker 1: Think that that's what the goal of the new guy is. Uh,

23:54 Speaker 1: this Kaslowsky guy, you know, his two predecessors, what of

24:00 Speaker 1: which I'm in contact with. And it's not doctor Evil,

24:02 Speaker 1: I can tell you that. I don't believe you. So

24:08 Speaker 1: both of those guys were they're very very, very very

24:14 Speaker 1: very just not in the community. I think the community

24:18 Speaker 1: looks at them and you know, they're just like the

24:20 Speaker 1: enemy at this point, because they're clearly like some sort

24:25 Speaker 1: of bias is there. They don't take this subject as serious.

24:29 Speaker 1: Maybe and I think the new director is trying to

24:33 Speaker 1: at least show people like, hey, listen, we're gonna put

24:36 Speaker 1: something out. You know, we'll put out what we'll put

24:38 Speaker 1: out one that we we can't figure out, and we'll

24:40 Speaker 1: let you know. And I think he's trying to maybe

24:42 Speaker 1: bridge a relationship with the UFO community truely.

24:48 Speaker 3: Like I'll take that space for it. But it's I

24:52 Speaker 3: want to see more. I mean, I guess that's it's

24:54 Speaker 3: always a thing in the community like more, I need more.

24:56 Speaker 3: But what was the eighth two seconds eighty two seconds

25:01 Speaker 3: of video of like a little Light in the sky.

25:06 Speaker 3: How much money are they getting a year as a

25:09 Speaker 3: funding and that that's what we get? Is that all

25:11 Speaker 3: there is? I doubt it?

25:14 Speaker 1: No, So of course it's Chris Mellen has said that there.

25:18 Speaker 3: Is for I mean, two minds about it. I understand it,

25:20 Speaker 3: but I'm also like, I want more. It's not enough

25:24 Speaker 3: for me to go, yeah, error is doing a good job.

25:27 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad that they did something, but it's

25:29 Speaker 3: not enough for me to say, hey, they're doing a

25:31 Speaker 3: great jobs.

25:33 Speaker 1: And and you know, like I said before, it's it's

25:40 Speaker 1: kind of funny because you know, I talk about guys

25:43 Speaker 1: like Chris Miller. Chris Mellin's gone on the record a

25:45 Speaker 1: couple of times. Hey, lover, I hate him, But he

25:47 Speaker 1: said that, you know, he knows that that that the

25:51 Speaker 1: Department Defense has videos that are of you know, ten

25:55 Speaker 1: ADP four K quality of anomalous objects. Now has he

26:00 Speaker 1: seen them? You know, have other people seen them? And

26:04 Speaker 1: and you know, where are they? Why aren't we being

26:07 Speaker 1: shown them? What's preventing them from being shown? Because I

26:11 Speaker 1: don't think I think it's very clear that the Department

26:14 Speaker 1: of Defense has not classified the idea of of alien life. Right,

26:19 Speaker 1: there's people well exactly, but I think that they are

26:26 Speaker 1: being very selective of what gets out and what doesn't

26:31 Speaker 1: get out. And I think, you know, because we saw

26:33 Speaker 1: that there was that that that footage of of a

26:36 Speaker 1: Russian plane dumping fuel on one of our Reaper drones

26:40 Speaker 1: and it was like you could see the pilot on

26:42 Speaker 1: the inside of the fucking Russian craft. Like, So don't

26:47 Speaker 1: so either either up state.

26:49 Speaker 3: We know that is exists and we have the capability. Yeah,

26:54 Speaker 3: we know that we have the capability to capture these

26:57 Speaker 3: things in high definition. So why getting the low reate

27:01 Speaker 3: even that video clip I had to sign up to

27:03 Speaker 3: down load ten ap two and a half meg per second.

27:07 Speaker 3: I know for a fact that camera sensor records in

27:09 Speaker 3: a way high quality. So like again, it's like, are

27:13 Speaker 3: they releasing a just low enough quality to say it's unresolved?

27:17 Speaker 3: But if you had the full Like I'm just confused,

27:21 Speaker 3: why not just release the raw source footage because there's

27:24 Speaker 3: no way we're any records in two and a half megasecond.

27:26 Speaker 3: There's no way.

27:28 Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question. So, all right,

27:31 Speaker 1: everybody knows that Weaponized Weaponized podcast. This week they had

27:37 Speaker 1: that guy, the Dylan Borland who testified at the latest

27:41 Speaker 1: hearing and he told his story there. There's a story

27:47 Speaker 1: that he tells at Langley about this this white light

27:51 Speaker 1: being seen. Right, And obviously orbs have been really like

27:57 Speaker 1: in the news, and and orbs are kind of like

28:00 Speaker 1: what everybody's talking about lately.

28:03 Speaker 3: I got a question, Sorry, but I've got a question.

28:07 Speaker 3: So how do we define an or It's just a light, right,

28:11 Speaker 3: So like when people say they saw an ORB, I

28:16 Speaker 3: feel like that there's a struggle to delineate between like

28:20 Speaker 3: a light. So like so like a light on a

28:23 Speaker 3: drone or what we think of is like, as we'll

28:26 Speaker 3: get to in this this Helphire video, something that looks

28:30 Speaker 3: could at least under that camera setting, looks like not

28:34 Speaker 3: an anomalous blob.

28:36 Speaker 1: Right, I don't I don't know.

28:39 Speaker 3: I mean I say, I feel like orb is a

28:42 Speaker 3: capsule term and we need to do as a community,

28:44 Speaker 3: we need to do better to differentiate between a light

28:47 Speaker 3: and something that actually is morphing and actually looks like

28:51 Speaker 3: an right.

28:53 Speaker 1: Because when I think of an orb, I think of

28:55 Speaker 1: like this gaseous you know, not well, not like morphing,

29:02 Speaker 1: but like something peculiar about it.

29:04 Speaker 3: It's not just a static, it's not a perfect sphere.

29:08 Speaker 3: It's like it's like a globule of liquid.

29:11 Speaker 1: Right. And honestly, I will say some of the videos

29:16 Speaker 1: that Chris I know people liked to throw shade, some

29:19 Speaker 1: of the Chris blood cell videos are pretty like you

29:24 Speaker 1: see that like like it's like it looks like it's

29:27 Speaker 1: like plasma zapping across around and you know, doing something.

29:32 Speaker 1: So I mean, is that an artifact of the camera?

29:36 Speaker 6: You know?

29:36 Speaker 1: These are the things And and if if the government

29:39 Speaker 1: would start releasing videos that that maybe are of more

29:43 Speaker 1: high quality, you know, maybe we could start having real

29:47 Speaker 1: conversations about what these things could be. You know, is

29:50 Speaker 1: it is it something prosaic? Is it are is it?

29:54 Speaker 1: Is it a defense Is it a special access program?

29:58 Speaker 1: You know sort of thing we know that they can do.

30:00 Speaker 1: DARPA is like fifty years ahead of us and in

30:04 Speaker 1: uh in defense technology, So you know, is it some

30:07 Speaker 1: sort of black program? And you know, are they Are

30:11 Speaker 1: they doing what they do because they can do a

30:14 Speaker 1: lot with lasers. They can make the they can make

30:19 Speaker 1: the I don't know what. I'm not a scientist, so

30:22 Speaker 1: I can't explain it too well, but they like charge

30:26 Speaker 1: the particles so much, and then it gives the impression

30:30 Speaker 1: that something's on radar or something's there, and even to

30:34 Speaker 1: the eye it kind of looks like something's there. So

30:37 Speaker 1: I mean, these are capabilities that we do already have,

30:40 Speaker 1: So I mean, what are we dealing with?

30:44 Speaker 3: Well, So one question that just came to mind as

30:47 Speaker 3: you were talking about Chris Bloodsawyer is can you or

30:51 Speaker 3: anybody in the audience tell me the difference between the

30:58 Speaker 3: Chris bloods CE five and the Stephen Grier CE five.

31:04 Speaker 3: Is there a difference? Yeah, because they're both capturing like

31:11 Speaker 3: similar looking things. I say this with quotation mark similar

31:15 Speaker 3: looking things. I'm just curious if, if, what if they're

31:20 Speaker 3: using the same technique or you know, what's what's the

31:24 Speaker 3: similarities and what's the difference is between them?

31:27 Speaker 1: I think they're they're the It's again, it's it's like saying,

31:31 Speaker 1: what what the these psionics guys are doing? Isn't CE five?

31:36 Speaker 1: I think Greer. I think Greer was the first to

31:39 Speaker 1: to to really introduce the idea or or mainstream the idea,

31:44 Speaker 1: because I know it was actually around a little bit

31:46 Speaker 1: before him too, and he popularized it with these protocols

31:53 Speaker 1: I and I think that's what what everyone else is doing.

31:57 Speaker 1: They just don't want to label it CE five because

31:59 Speaker 1: green is very controversial. So if you're if you're I mean,

32:04 Speaker 1: if you're willing to hitch your wagon to his, then

32:07 Speaker 1: I think you're you'd be willing to call it CE five,

32:10 Speaker 1: whereas Blood CE and like Barber, I don't think they're

32:13 Speaker 1: willing to hitch their stuff to.

32:16 Speaker 3: I mean, in terms of the actual technique, there's no difference.

32:20 Speaker 3: You're meditating and this this brings me to my next thing,

32:24 Speaker 3: is is Greer has been caught faking sightings with drones

32:29 Speaker 3: and flares from a plane and stuff. It just gives me.

32:35 Speaker 3: It gives me a lot of pause to look at

32:39 Speaker 3: the Bledsoe story and think it's genuine because I see

32:42 Speaker 3: no substantive difference between the techniques that Greer's outfit and

32:48 Speaker 3: the c setting and stuff that are doing and what

32:53 Speaker 3: the Bloodsows are doing. So if one's faking and another

32:56 Speaker 3: group of getting the same results, can you see why

33:01 Speaker 3: I have questions?

33:03 Speaker 1: Yeah? And I will. So the reason I was bringing

33:05 Speaker 1: all this up is do you did you see the

33:10 Speaker 1: Ross Coultart video of the psionic asset that that he

33:15 Speaker 1: had that green Bereton that was a psionic asset for

33:20 Speaker 1: for what's it called Skywatcher? And this guy, so I listen,

33:25 Speaker 1: I'll say it now. I'll say it now because now

33:28 Speaker 1: he's not answering me, and and and so this guy

33:33 Speaker 1: he was trying to get me to get him a

33:37 Speaker 1: Stretch Limo drive. Yeah, so he was. He was trying.

33:43 Speaker 1: So I was like, listen, I want to have you

33:44 Speaker 1: in the in the podcast studio. I want to have

33:46 Speaker 1: you here. You're gonna be here, You're gonna be two

33:50 Speaker 1: hours away. You know, how can I get you here?

33:53 Speaker 1: So he wanted me to rent this stretch limo for

33:58 Speaker 1: him and his ladies as he called it, to come

34:02 Speaker 1: here for so two hours here, two hours back. And

34:08 Speaker 1: obviously the limo would have to stay in the area

34:11 Speaker 1: while we do the show because it's not going to

34:13 Speaker 1: take off and then drive back here to get them.

34:16 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. So I would have had to

34:17 Speaker 1: pay for like eight hours of limo. So the cost

34:22 Speaker 1: was like seventeen eighteen hundred dollars just to get him here.

34:26 Speaker 1: And so apparently now after the News Nation video that

34:30 Speaker 1: he did that he apparently shows an alien being, he's

34:35 Speaker 1: now on Patreon selling a psionic asset logs for five

34:40 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. So if you guys, if you guys in

34:44 Speaker 1: the chack can't share two dollars with us to keep

34:46 Speaker 1: the lights on, and you spend five hundred dollars to

34:49 Speaker 1: give a fucking psionic asset who By the way, I

34:52 Speaker 1: have not been able to find their DD two fourteen,

34:55 Speaker 1: and I do not know if they're actually in the

34:59 Speaker 1: military or are in the military. I hope that they

35:02 Speaker 1: wouldn't lie about that. I'm not saying they did, but

35:07 Speaker 1: I mean, guys, let's let's get our priorities right here right,

35:10 Speaker 1: So Ross Ross has gone full Grier, full Grier.

35:16 Speaker 3: Imagine my shock.

35:18 Speaker 1: Well Ross came into the field. There's this very nuts

35:21 Speaker 1: and bolts like journal, you know, hardcore journal from the

35:27 Speaker 1: old days. Even though you know no one wants to

35:30 Speaker 1: talk about how he got ran out of his old job.

35:32 Speaker 3: I was I was very hoping that you were going

35:34 Speaker 3: to bring that out so I didn't have to. Yesh,

35:36 Speaker 3: he got he got run out of sixty minutes Australia

35:39 Speaker 3: for a completely false story alleging a sex ring inside

35:44 Speaker 3: the UK House of Lords. He had some source give

35:47 Speaker 3: him all of this story that he ran with without

35:50 Speaker 3: actually fact checking it. The guy that gave him the

35:53 Speaker 3: story ends up going to jail for making it all

35:55 Speaker 3: up on wasting police time. And it's insane. It's in

36:00 Speaker 3: insane story that it makes me. But then I look

36:03 Speaker 3: at like whom News Nation employees like Chris Komo, and

36:06 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, well that explains a lot. So you know,

36:09 Speaker 3: it's it's not that big of a shark, but it is. See.

36:13 Speaker 1: So yeah, and and and he had told me in

36:17 Speaker 1: the chat, in the chat that we had that the

36:20 Speaker 1: video that he was going to drop was going to

36:22 Speaker 1: change the world. And I'm looking around and I'm wondering,

36:31 Speaker 1: did the world change and I missed it?

36:34 Speaker 3: I mean, you know what you want? My first gut

36:36 Speaker 3: reaction to that video.

36:37 Speaker 1: Is there any where we could pull the clip up?

36:40 Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, So I'll explain my my take while I

36:42 Speaker 3: grab it. So you know, when you're when it's raining

36:47 Speaker 3: on a window, and yes, you put your camera up

36:52 Speaker 3: to it, up on the glass and you're filming through

36:55 Speaker 3: the water droplets on the glass and you slide the

36:59 Speaker 3: camera slide and you get all these different reflections and stuff.

37:02 Speaker 3: That's what that video reminds me of. Like first reaction was, Oh,

37:06 Speaker 3: that's just that. And I say this because I take

37:09 Speaker 3: a lot of like weather photos and weather videos, so

37:12 Speaker 3: I've done that a lot, Like I've had to try

37:14 Speaker 3: and get my camera to look through a little gap

37:17 Speaker 3: in a bit of glass to get past the rain drops.

37:20 Speaker 3: So I it was a kind of a unique thing

37:22 Speaker 3: that I like, I know, I know that visual interesting.

37:27 Speaker 3: What was it? What was his name, Matt Batista, right,

37:30 Speaker 3: Michael Batista, Michael Batista.

37:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, And while he's bringing that up, guys, so carri

37:37 Speaker 1: So I filmed an interview with doctor Greg Rogers, and

37:40 Speaker 1: we'll be talking about him in a minute. We have

37:41 Speaker 1: a bunch of topics still to go half the show.

37:46 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, I don't know what I was

37:48 Speaker 1: just about to say. We released that episode with doctor

37:51 Speaker 1: Greg Rodgers last night on YouTube, so definitely after this

37:55 Speaker 1: show check that out. Cary did such a good job

37:58 Speaker 1: with the editing and the mixing and fixing some of

38:02 Speaker 1: the focus issue that I saw that some of you

38:05 Speaker 1: guys noticed, which is embarrassing, but no, we have we

38:10 Speaker 1: have much much planned and it was a very I

38:12 Speaker 1: shot that at Contact in the desert in the hotel

38:15 Speaker 1: room before the day, but the day the day that

38:18 Speaker 1: I was doing like twelve other interviews, so there was

38:21 Speaker 1: a lot in my mind that day. So we got

38:25 Speaker 1: I think we got the video from NewsNation. Here, we

38:29 Speaker 1: had the content that Ross is now promoting. This is

38:31 Speaker 1: the guy who came into the field and questioned everything

38:36 Speaker 1: was very nuts and bolts. You know. People liked him

38:40 Speaker 1: because he had the accent, and he did a very

38:42 Speaker 1: smart thing by pairing himself up with someone who is

38:45 Speaker 1: very likable like Bryce Sable.

38:48 Speaker 3: Yes I was actually that was a master streak.

38:50 Speaker 1: Faster, So he's smart. I'll give him that. Sorry, let's

38:55 Speaker 1: play this, bad.

38:55 Speaker 3: Boy, Let's play this. So think of this from the

38:58 Speaker 3: context of water on the window.

39:00 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, what is Oh my god?

39:07 Speaker 1: Oh I see it now, Holy shit. It's just it's

39:15 Speaker 1: like a fucking candle on the outside.

39:18 Speaker 3: He's saying, it's just it's a street light. There's a

39:23 Speaker 3: house or building over there, and then there's a street light.

39:26 Speaker 1: Yeah.

39:26 Speaker 3: He's moving his camera through like, uh, it's just on

39:31 Speaker 3: a pane of glass with water.

39:32 Speaker 1: Oh my god.

39:35 Speaker 3: Like that was my instinct, gut reaction. I was like,

39:37 Speaker 3: I know what that is. Like I could be totally wrong,

39:40 Speaker 3: but like, that's what that looks like.

39:42 Speaker 1: Guys. Does anyone think that that is an alien? I would, honestly,

39:48 Speaker 1: I would believe the Las Vegas alien video before I

39:52 Speaker 1: fucking believe this thing. And that's saying a lot. That

39:58 Speaker 1: is saying a.

39:59 Speaker 7: Lot that looks yeah, what you know, and thinking though,

40:07 Speaker 7: now that you say it, it looks like there's so

40:09 Speaker 7: what his what his claim was is that he pulled

40:12 Speaker 7: out his phone just he asked if he could film them,

40:19 Speaker 7: can it?

40:20 Speaker 3: Yes?

40:21 Speaker 1: But they said, they being the aliens, they said only

40:27 Speaker 1: if you put your dog away, what dude.

40:32 Speaker 3: Liars And this is the same guy that wants a

40:34 Speaker 3: limo for him and his.

40:35 Speaker 1: Girls, yes six for sixteen to be charged.

40:39 Speaker 3: How do they communicate with him?

40:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, well through his through through meditation, So again back

40:45 Speaker 1: to that C five style. What he's claiming his ability

40:49 Speaker 1: is is to be able to connect with them on

40:52 Speaker 1: a on a psionic level, on a on a level

40:56 Speaker 1: through telepathy and call these things in and he says

41:01 Speaker 1: that he's basically he said that they landed for him

41:06 Speaker 1: in this video. They said you can record us, but

41:09 Speaker 1: only if you put your dog away, which seems like

41:12 Speaker 1: a really bizarre fucking detail. The liars put things. A

41:17 Speaker 1: good liar someone who knows they're lying and they're making

41:21 Speaker 1: a story, they'll include these really obscure, weird details.

41:27 Speaker 3: And I think it makes them sound more genuine but nice,

41:31 Speaker 3: like you wouldn't if you were telling like a truthful story.

41:33 Speaker 3: It's not details that you would like think are important.

41:38 Speaker 1: Sorry, that's that's the trick, is they communicate with the girls.

41:44 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been putting the girls down. Uh that's

41:47 Speaker 1: the cold maybe down? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I listen. I

41:52 Speaker 1: will say this for my total disclosure brethren. I did

41:56 Speaker 1: say that I would drive to him, and he said, no,

42:00 Speaker 1: that's a security.

42:01 Speaker 3: Risk because you're such a dangerous person. Time so dangerous,

42:06 Speaker 3: it's so dangerous.

42:08 Speaker 1: A So that's that's. That's that. And he's ghosting me now,

42:14 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't even care. I don't once

42:16 Speaker 1: I saw a video. So he was trying to get

42:19 Speaker 1: me to play because someone and this is my problem

42:23 Speaker 1: with the UFO community right now, someone's telling him that

42:26 Speaker 1: this is okay to do that, this is how it's done.

42:30 Speaker 1: So what he was trying to do is get me

42:32 Speaker 1: to be so excited as a UFO believer that I

42:36 Speaker 1: would jump and spend whenever I needed to to get

42:40 Speaker 1: him here. But that's not me, I I I am.

42:45 Speaker 1: I am very stingy. There's you know.

42:49 Speaker 3: Of like like we we've kind of created like a

42:52 Speaker 3: UFO culture that incentivizes this kind of behavior because we

42:57 Speaker 3: seem to equate like shows with money as being shows

43:01 Speaker 3: of quality.

43:02 Speaker 1: Yes, And.

43:05 Speaker 3: It creates like a space for people to go, oh, well,

43:08 Speaker 3: you you've obviously got money, you get all these guests,

43:11 Speaker 3: therefore you can pay me for my story. And it

43:14 Speaker 3: creates his echos, this cottage industry, and I say it

43:17 Speaker 3: a lot like in the Secret Space program Insider Space,

43:21 Speaker 3: where people will come forward with a very similar kind

43:24 Speaker 3: of story, like oh, I channeled Aliens and I went

43:26 Speaker 3: off and did a twenty year service and came back.

43:28 Speaker 3: It's the same stick because there's a profit incentive for

43:32 Speaker 3: people who want content. Yeah, so yeah, I know who's

43:38 Speaker 3: somewhat of a friend to the show. But Jesse Michaels

43:40 Speaker 3: is someone that comes to someone you are Cannon.

43:45 Speaker 1: I'm Cannon in American Alchemy. Now.

43:49 Speaker 3: I don't know if if he pays people for their time,

43:53 Speaker 3: but it strikes me as a show with so much

43:56 Speaker 3: money that it attracts people with crazy stories who want

44:00 Speaker 3: to sell their crazy story because they know that he

44:02 Speaker 3: comes from like the Peter Teele money empire. Now I

44:07 Speaker 3: have anything personal against Jesse, and you know, anything I've

44:11 Speaker 3: ever tweeted at him is purely on a fact basis,

44:14 Speaker 3: not on a personal one. So I just I think

44:18 Speaker 3: that we could do better as a community about like

44:21 Speaker 3: the culture we're creating where we create space for these

44:24 Speaker 3: insane people to come forward with insane stories that these

44:28 Speaker 3: aren't the stories we're going to see in Congress, because

44:30 Speaker 3: that prove that you know, you hear them once and

44:34 Speaker 3: you go, this person is crazy, like any normal person

44:37 Speaker 3: would hear. Oh, I've been taken off to Mars for

44:39 Speaker 3: twenty years where I was abused by the Grays and

44:43 Speaker 3: made to do slave labor and then set back on

44:45 Speaker 3: a craft and there was there was only white people

44:47 Speaker 3: in my craft, like these are some of the stories

44:50 Speaker 3: you hear in the Secret Space program inside the space

44:53 Speaker 3: and it's they're completely incentivized by the money machine and

44:57 Speaker 3: the content creation machine. And to save myself going too

45:02 Speaker 3: far on that run, I'll stop it there.

45:04 Speaker 1: But well, there's clearly money to be made. People are

45:09 Speaker 1: willing to spend money on their will, their their wont

45:14 Speaker 1: to believe. It's it's it's it's dangerous, and some people

45:19 Speaker 1: don't realize that they're emptying their wallets for these guys

45:23 Speaker 1: like Greer. Just you know, they're spending thirteen fourteen hundred

45:28 Speaker 1: dollars for a weekend of meditation and him talking at you,

45:33 Speaker 1: not to you, but at you. Right, he's talking at

45:37 Speaker 1: you about all the great things and every single thing

45:40 Speaker 1: that he's ever done, and how he's involved in every

45:43 Speaker 1: single uf big UFO store. He needs to insert himself

45:47 Speaker 1: into every single narrative because like like I said, he's

45:52 Speaker 1: he's built this whole idea in his fan base or

45:56 Speaker 1: his followers that he is the only way to closure happens.

46:01 Speaker 1: And I mean it's it really like I said, That's

46:05 Speaker 1: why I really loved your film Dark Alliance, because it

46:09 Speaker 1: did finally shine a light into a very very dark

46:14 Speaker 1: corner of this seemingly like very inclusive topic. And there

46:22 Speaker 1: are guys like Uap Gerb that do wonderful work the

46:28 Speaker 1: Jesse Michaels, you know what, the video on T Townsend Brown.

46:32 Speaker 1: I love that video. I could watch that one hundred

46:35 Speaker 1: times and not be bored. No do I think all

46:39 Speaker 1: these people are here because they want the answers to

46:44 Speaker 1: the existential questions of the universe.

46:47 Speaker 3: No, No, I think I think on like a base

46:50 Speaker 3: level they do. But I think it gets overridden with

46:52 Speaker 3: the profit motive. Right, Oh, I can get a load

46:55 Speaker 3: of money along the way, not realizing that the along

46:59 Speaker 3: the way has been going on for eighty years, Like

47:02 Speaker 3: there is no like, Oh, I'll do this for three years.

47:05 Speaker 3: I'll get the truth and I'll get out that that's

47:07 Speaker 3: not a thing, Like there's always a joke in the

47:09 Speaker 3: uthology like you can check in or you can check out,

47:14 Speaker 3: but you can you can never leave once you're once. Yeah,

47:18 Speaker 3: once you're in, you're in. And it's very it seems

47:23 Speaker 3: it's extremely hard to leave the topic because of this

47:27 Speaker 3: never ending Oh we're almost there, guys, discuss it's going

47:31 Speaker 3: to be a big year for disclosure, big year for disclosure,

47:33 Speaker 3: and it's it's not a big year for disclosure, would

47:37 Speaker 3: be an actual mass sighting over a huge city.

47:42 Speaker 1: That's what we really need is another Phoenix lights incident

47:46 Speaker 1: happening to like tomorrow with smartphones and and listen, I

47:53 Speaker 1: did make a joke in the in the intro about

47:56 Speaker 1: three eye out lists, and you know this is the

47:59 Speaker 1: time where you shouldn't drink the kool aid, right, that's

48:02 Speaker 1: just you know, if you if you don't know what

48:04 Speaker 1: I mean, wink wink. I don't want to get us

48:07 Speaker 1: to monetize or anything. But you know, there there are

48:11 Speaker 1: people that like will take, like have taken their lives

48:15 Speaker 1: to do these really weird culty things. You know, with

48:19 Speaker 1: the hail Bob comment, you know that that's a tragedy.

48:23 Speaker 1: What happened those people thought that You know that the

48:27 Speaker 1: the what was it, Heaven's Gate, That Heaven's Gate. They

48:32 Speaker 1: thought they were being told that they were gonna, you know,

48:35 Speaker 1: be brought onto the ship. And maybe they did. Maybe

48:38 Speaker 1: it is an alien spacecraft and we're the ones and

48:40 Speaker 1: we're the idiots down here laughing at them. But they

48:43 Speaker 1: really did go there, who knows. I don't know.

48:45 Speaker 3: But did they leave that, buddies, that's you know, it's like, yeah,

48:49 Speaker 3: well they died. Well this is what I mean, if

48:52 Speaker 3: they died. But like you're saying, what if they did,

48:56 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they could be a huge cosmic joke

48:59 Speaker 3: on us, and maybe maybe they've zupped them out of

49:01 Speaker 3: their bodies into some kind of extra dimensional systems.

49:05 Speaker 1: But I do want to I do want to throw

49:07 Speaker 1: it a quick something really quick here. Again, we're still

49:10 Speaker 1: building out the show. We're gonna build in segments and

49:14 Speaker 1: we're gonna refine it.

49:15 Speaker 3: This is a lot of fun.

49:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is definitely episode one. We have one hundred

49:20 Speaker 1: almost two hundred people watching ninety nine percent on x

49:23 Speaker 1: SO at like the halfway mark, guys, I do got

49:26 Speaker 1: to cut the X Please come over on YouTube and watch, please, sport.

49:30 Speaker 1: I want to get the word out about this show,

49:33 Speaker 1: We're definitely but listen, there was something about the rapture

49:38 Speaker 1: that this past week. So apparently this guy, this priest

49:44 Speaker 1: was preaching and he said that the rapture was happening,

49:47 Speaker 1: and apparently a bunch of people like started selling their

49:50 Speaker 1: cars and quitting their jobs and they were ready for

49:54 Speaker 1: the rapture and it was huge on TikTok And uh,

49:58 Speaker 1: I mean, did you see that?

49:59 Speaker 3: I did. I think that the people that believe that

50:03 Speaker 3: the raptor is coming, they start selling their possessions and

50:05 Speaker 3: stuff that I feel like that is a symptom of

50:08 Speaker 3: a deeper issue going on with them, where they're ready,

50:13 Speaker 3: like they're ready to leave, They're ready to die, die, ascend, die,

50:17 Speaker 3: what however you want to quantify it. So I I

50:21 Speaker 3: do think it's pretty pretty crazy. But I I mean,

50:26 Speaker 3: maybe we're maybe the rapture did happen and we're we're

50:28 Speaker 3: the roobs that are stuck here.

50:30 Speaker 1: You know, no no one does a fucking no, then

50:32 Speaker 1: there's no good people on fucking earth because no one

50:36 Speaker 1: left first time. Oh anyway, so is there any more?

50:46 Speaker 1: Was there any other videos from from Arrow that were

50:49 Speaker 1: that were of any interest?

50:52 Speaker 3: No, the rest of the rest were just balloons and

50:56 Speaker 3: one was like a non a norm anomalist phenomenon. And

50:59 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even need to look at those.

51:01 Speaker 3: You told me what they are in the description, so

51:04 Speaker 3: I didn't even I didn't look.

51:05 Speaker 5: Well.

51:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you guys can go to arrow what is

51:10 Speaker 1: it arrow dot gov.

51:13 Speaker 3: Something like that.

51:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, go to the d O d's website and check

51:19 Speaker 1: out the videos for yourself. If I cannot link them

51:22 Speaker 1: in the description below, post stream because I don't have

51:24 Speaker 1: it there right now. But let's move on to something

51:27 Speaker 1: really quick. Let's move on. I just want to talk

51:30 Speaker 1: about this really quick. I posted it on X the

51:34 Speaker 1: other day and I had a conversation with doctor Greg Rogers,

51:39 Speaker 1: who was this week's this Week's guest on the show,

51:44 Speaker 1: and he brought something up to me. He brought two

51:48 Speaker 1: things up to me that that ended up being subjects

51:51 Speaker 1: that we're talking about tonight. So he him and I

51:55 Speaker 1: were talking on the phone. I don't know do I

51:57 Speaker 1: want to share this video? I think I do, But

52:01 Speaker 1: we were talking about three eye out lists apparently so

52:06 Speaker 1: apparently and I didn't know this. So when you when

52:11 Speaker 1: you see when you see Nickel in something, there's always iron.

52:18 Speaker 1: So when he was talking about the can you hear that?

52:25 Speaker 3: No, yeah, not yet, don't hear that?

52:28 Speaker 1: No we can Okay, So what the point he's making

52:33 Speaker 1: is that three eye out lists in in in the universe,

52:37 Speaker 1: you don't see nickel without iron. They're always together, right,

52:42 Speaker 1: unless by some sort of manufacturing process you separate the two,

52:48 Speaker 1: like we do here on Earth, when we separate the

52:51 Speaker 1: nickel and turn it into alloys and make spacecraft with them,

52:54 Speaker 1: and we actually do. Now, iron is very dense, it's heavy,

52:59 Speaker 1: and it's coroni, so it's not good material for spacecraft

53:04 Speaker 1: or anything that's going to be in the vacuum of

53:07 Speaker 1: space so or anywhere else. And the composition that is

53:12 Speaker 1: coming back on three iye at lists, so aside from

53:16 Speaker 1: its really really weird trajectory and it being an interstellar object,

53:21 Speaker 1: it's got a composition that has nickel but no iron. Now,

53:26 Speaker 1: what doctor Rogers tells me is that that is very,

53:29 Speaker 1: very important, and we could just listen to this real quick.

53:33 Speaker 1: I think you are very I think you're talking about

53:36 Speaker 1: the health fire. That's a big year. But pause that

53:39 Speaker 1: what does that have to do with three eye out lists? Oh?

53:44 Speaker 2: No, three eye at lists that's a whole other thing.

53:46 Speaker 2: But my viewpoint on that is, you know, I'll be load.

53:50 Speaker 2: We can talk about the trajectory, and you know, even

53:54 Speaker 2: the carbon diox side, the water ratio is an amazing

53:59 Speaker 2: anomal because normally it's three to one water to CO

54:05 Speaker 2: two and now the CO two is eight to one

54:08 Speaker 2: to the water. So yeah, that's a big thing, but

54:12 Speaker 2: it's totally backwards. But the universe does not make nickel

54:19 Speaker 2: without making iron. Now, then we have to industrially do

54:26 Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff to separate the nickel from the iron.

54:29 Speaker 2: And then for our spacecraft where you're going to use

54:33 Speaker 2: nickel alloys for the Space Shuttle, for the Voyagers one

54:37 Speaker 2: and two, for the New Horizon spacecraft. When we launch satellites,

54:43 Speaker 2: we use nickel, but you don't use any iron. Iron

54:48 Speaker 2: is heavy and it's corrosive, so it's not used on spacecraft.

54:55 Speaker 2: If the voyager eventually strays into another solar system and

55:01 Speaker 2: some intelligent civilization watches it, it's going to give a

55:08 Speaker 2: nickel signature without iron, and they're gonna, know, what do

55:14 Speaker 2: you think we're seeing with three I at lists there's

55:16 Speaker 2: no iron. So it's not a natural process because the nature.

55:22 Speaker 2: Every time it makes iron, it's also going to make nickel.

55:25 Speaker 1: Holy shit, are you saying that this is something weird.

55:29 Speaker 2: I'm saying that is exactly weird.

55:34 Speaker 1: And then I just I had to quickly stop that

55:38 Speaker 1: because I did share something very very private with him

55:40 Speaker 1: after that. But so he so this is a man

55:46 Speaker 1: that worked with NASA Chief of Aerospace Medicine, chief light surgeon,

55:52 Speaker 1: was you know, also has some experience with chemical is

55:58 Speaker 1: it chemical engineering? I think so, you know, as as

56:02 Speaker 1: someone who does have that kind of wherewithal an expertise.

56:06 Speaker 1: When he did say it, I was like, Okay, you're

56:09 Speaker 1: you're raising some good points. Do I think it really

56:13 Speaker 1: is some sort of probe? I don't know. I really

56:16 Speaker 1: don't do. I want it to be. Hell fucking yeah,

56:19 Speaker 1: I do. But what's.

56:23 Speaker 6: So?

56:24 Speaker 3: I do think the the alloy issue is interesting. I've

56:28 Speaker 3: been thinking about it ever since you posted it, like

56:30 Speaker 3: how how something like that would work? And it reminded

56:34 Speaker 3: me of I can't remember if it was like the

56:37 Speaker 3: meta materials or there was something where there's a material

56:42 Speaker 3: that came from like a meteorite that was clearly made

56:46 Speaker 3: in the different kind of gravity. Well, because of the

56:48 Speaker 3: alignment of the part of the atoms. It could only

56:53 Speaker 3: be made in like a different, different part of space.

56:56 Speaker 3: And it's got me thinking like, well, uh, we're talking

57:01 Speaker 3: about the separation process between nickel and iron, right right,

57:05 Speaker 3: and that's we're understanding that process in terms of like

57:10 Speaker 3: Earth and Earth's gravity well, Earth's gravity well and our

57:14 Speaker 3: Sun's gravity well in how elements are formed and bonded,

57:21 Speaker 3: whereas we don't know that this thing could have come

57:25 Speaker 3: from some other part of space where nickel can form

57:29 Speaker 3: without ion, Like I feel like we need to have

57:32 Speaker 3: space for that because we we don't know that it's not.

57:36 Speaker 3: So it's I'm kind of I'm skeptical. I think it's

57:40 Speaker 3: probably probably just like part of a comet or part

57:45 Speaker 3: of an asteroid that's busted off and it's stumbling. I do.

57:50 Speaker 3: I do think it's very interesting that there is no

57:52 Speaker 3: no iron, But I'm I'm open to a prosaic explanation

57:57 Speaker 3: that has to do with kind of spatial I don't

58:01 Speaker 3: know what conditions or dynamics.

58:03 Speaker 1: Saying that you know, a different star could be, right,

58:08 Speaker 1: we should We shouldn't just look through the human lens like, hey,

58:12 Speaker 1: we've never seen it, so it can't be possible.

58:14 Speaker 3: Right, That's what I'm getting is so we understand the

58:17 Speaker 3: process because we do it here on Earth where elements

58:20 Speaker 3: form a certain way, and out in space they could

58:24 Speaker 3: form in a different way and we don't know it.

58:25 Speaker 3: So like I feel like, is that more plausible than

58:29 Speaker 3: it being an alien probe? Wellbe you know, yeah, possibly, yeah.

58:34 Speaker 1: And it's going to make its closest approach, I believe October,

58:42 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. So we have a lot of

58:45 Speaker 1: Thursdays till then, or at least four, So obviously we'll

58:50 Speaker 1: be you.

58:50 Speaker 3: Know, well as we go week to week, and we'll

58:54 Speaker 3: we'll keep the audience up to date and we'll have

58:56 Speaker 3: a hopefully good conversation about it because it's very interesting.

59:01 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's closer and we can scan

59:04 Speaker 3: it more accurately, we'll get a clearer picture. Maybe there

59:07 Speaker 3: is iron there and we're just not scanning it properly.

59:09 Speaker 3: We don't.

59:10 Speaker 1: Well, you know what's interesting is now I have this

59:13 Speaker 1: I have this theory theory. It's very loose. I mean,

59:18 Speaker 1: don't take me at, you know, at full face value,

59:22 Speaker 1: because I'm still kind of producing it. But I always

59:27 Speaker 1: said that it was weird that after twenty seventeen, it

59:31 Speaker 1: does seem like they are drip feeding us and kind

59:35 Speaker 1: of getting us ready for something. Now have UFOs been

59:41 Speaker 1: around since before twenty seventeen?

59:44 Speaker 3: Of course, I've just got to point out that was

59:46 Speaker 3: very millinarian of you. What does that mean, the belief

59:51 Speaker 3: that there is like a coming golden age or there

59:55 Speaker 3: is something coming and you know there's an event coming, right,

59:58 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, it's a millinary in tendency. I see,

1:00:02 Speaker 3: And you followed you all the time of oh this

1:00:04 Speaker 3: is you know, this is going to be a great

1:00:05 Speaker 3: year for disclosure. This is disclosure is coming. You know

1:00:09 Speaker 3: all of this. It's millenary and tenets. I just wanted

1:00:14 Speaker 3: to point that out.

1:00:16 Speaker 1: But could the government be aware? Could the military industrial

1:00:20 Speaker 1: complex or government dark but whoever the deep state is,

1:00:25 Speaker 1: whatever that is, whatever capacity you want to call it,

1:00:27 Speaker 1: the illuminati? Could they have figured out that something was

1:00:33 Speaker 1: eventually going to make its way here and it was

1:00:36 Speaker 1: going to become very apparent, and to avoid some sort

1:00:40 Speaker 1: of chaotic disclosure, they would drip feed us this idea

1:00:46 Speaker 1: that we are not alone and you know, kind of

1:00:49 Speaker 1: mold and get the playing field ready for an inevitable

1:00:55 Speaker 1: kind of forced disclosure, because I don't think it's up

1:01:00 Speaker 1: to us to disclose. I think if there is something here,

1:01:04 Speaker 1: they're the ones in charge of whether they're going to

1:01:07 Speaker 1: come out or not. And I mean it raises a

1:01:11 Speaker 1: good question if the Grays and those nord Eggs or whatever,

1:01:16 Speaker 1: if those things are truly here and they don't intervene,

1:01:20 Speaker 1: and they you know, and they know something also coming,

1:01:23 Speaker 1: could they be here to witness what civilizations meeting, what

1:01:29 Speaker 1: that looks like, because it only happens so few times,

1:01:33 Speaker 1: you know, because age of the universe, the distance between

1:01:38 Speaker 1: planets and dimensionalities, and the technology it would take to

1:01:41 Speaker 1: actually pull these kind of things off. So could they

1:01:45 Speaker 1: want to have always said this? Are they here to

1:01:49 Speaker 1: witness the end of the world? Right? They seem to

1:01:51 Speaker 1: be attracted to our nukes? Are they here to stop something?

1:01:55 Speaker 1: Or are they here to observe something? And I don't

1:01:58 Speaker 1: think it's out of the realm of possible that something

1:02:02 Speaker 1: they know was on its was going to be on

1:02:05 Speaker 1: its way or was on its way, is on its

1:02:07 Speaker 1: way and has been for a long time, and they

1:02:12 Speaker 1: just they got here. They can leave and come and go,

1:02:15 Speaker 1: and you know, our government then figured it out as well,

1:02:19 Speaker 1: and now you know they're priving the field. They kept it,

1:02:24 Speaker 1: you know, locked up as long as they could, but

1:02:27 Speaker 1: now they needed to start that society needed to be

1:02:30 Speaker 1: kind of read into the program, if you will.

1:02:32 Speaker 3: So are you saying that they've known about Triatlis's approach

1:02:36 Speaker 3: for a long time?

1:02:39 Speaker 1: It's what I'm posing, yes, And it's maybe why we

1:02:44 Speaker 1: keep sending up these So we fast tracked James Webb.

1:02:49 Speaker 1: People don't like remember that, but we took a real

1:02:52 Speaker 1: chance getting up as quick as we did, and it

1:02:55 Speaker 1: wasn't a guarantee that when it unfolded that it wasn't

1:02:59 Speaker 1: just going to smash apart. So why did we rush

1:03:03 Speaker 1: web up there?

1:03:04 Speaker 3: Why? Why?

1:03:05 Speaker 1: Why? Why? Is Dobbs are allowing people like David Grosh

1:03:10 Speaker 1: and Luel Azando.

1:03:12 Speaker 3: Or okay, okay, do you know what? Do you know

1:03:16 Speaker 3: what dob is?

1:03:17 Speaker 1: I do? I'm very aware of what the art.

1:03:20 Speaker 3: You are allowed. I know and I know you know,

1:03:24 Speaker 3: but I feel like the audience needs to hear it

1:03:25 Speaker 3: because I'm going to beat him over the head with

1:03:27 Speaker 3: it until they understand it. I love the audience, but

1:03:29 Speaker 3: the audience needs to understand these things. One question is

1:03:32 Speaker 3: my camera frozen.

1:03:34 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Actually okay, it's not me for once.

1:03:38 Speaker 3: I know it's strange. Let me let me switch it

1:03:41 Speaker 3: out one second, but you.

1:03:44 Speaker 1: Listen, So I'll say this before you get into your

1:03:47 Speaker 1: whole little smash on Dobster. I am not saying that

1:03:51 Speaker 1: Dobbster is the one that is allowing it. I'm just

1:03:55 Speaker 1: saying that it seems weird that if I mean, they're

1:04:02 Speaker 1: what they're talking about now with crash retrieval, I mean,

1:04:06 Speaker 1: the Dobster isn't saying okay, go talk about it. They're

1:04:11 Speaker 1: just saying it's not classified. What you're talking about is

1:04:14 Speaker 1: not inherently classified. So you know, we you know, we

1:04:19 Speaker 1: can't stop you from from talking about that as a

1:04:22 Speaker 1: as a private citizen or as you know, as a

1:04:25 Speaker 1: private citizen talking about it in the capacity of having

1:04:29 Speaker 1: the hindsight of being in the military and and and

1:04:33 Speaker 1: the n r O and Space Force. So I think

1:04:35 Speaker 1: it's very interesting that, you know, all of a sudden,

1:04:38 Speaker 1: just the floodgates opened and we have all this video,

1:04:42 Speaker 1: all this all these quote unquote whistle blowers. And I

1:04:46 Speaker 1: don't think if you go through Dobster you are a whistleblower.

1:04:49 Speaker 1: I think you are, whether you believe it or not,

1:04:52 Speaker 1: you are an agent of the d O D. You

1:04:56 Speaker 1: might not be peddling exactly what they want, but there's

1:04:59 Speaker 1: a what they are saying, you're good to go talk

1:05:03 Speaker 1: about this. That's my belief.

1:05:06 Speaker 3: Okay, here's my understanding of Dobson, and I might be

1:05:11 Speaker 3: wrong here, but they're like Remit, their purpose is not

1:05:16 Speaker 3: to say, hey, you're okay to go talk about this.

1:05:22 Speaker 3: Their purpose is to look at what you're going to

1:05:24 Speaker 3: say and verify that there's nothing classified within what you're

1:05:28 Speaker 3: going to say, not whether what you're going to say

1:05:30 Speaker 3: is truthful or not. And I feel like that that

1:05:34 Speaker 3: serves propaganda purposes, it can serve personal financial purposes. So

1:05:40 Speaker 3: I feel like it's something I really really need the

1:05:43 Speaker 3: audience to understand, is that just because dops are clear

1:05:46 Speaker 3: something does not mean that it's factual or truthful. It

1:05:49 Speaker 3: just means that there was nothing classified in that document

1:05:54 Speaker 3: that they had to flag. That's that's their only purpose

1:05:57 Speaker 3: is to flag classified material in the doctor fields.

1:06:00 Speaker 1: Okay, So what you're saying is you don't think David

1:06:04 Speaker 1: Grush saying that we have that the US government is

1:06:08 Speaker 1: in possession of non human biologics and that we absolutely

1:06:15 Speaker 1: have a crash retrieval program. You don't think that that

1:06:19 Speaker 1: is something they would want not to be talked about,

1:06:24 Speaker 1: because well, it's It raises an interesting question because if

1:06:28 Speaker 1: they do say you can't talk about it, then we

1:06:31 Speaker 1: know it's true, right because when asked that question, Hey,

1:06:37 Speaker 1: David Grush, do we have crash retrieval programs? I'm sorry,

1:06:41 Speaker 1: I can't talk about that. That's for me whenever that said,

1:06:45 Speaker 1: that's a yes we do, and I think for everyone

1:06:49 Speaker 1: else that that's the case anytime this congressional hearings happened

1:06:52 Speaker 1: and someone says, sorry, I'm about to speak about that

1:06:55 Speaker 1: in a skiff, I.

1:06:56 Speaker 3: Think because if they so like Grush is put in,

1:07:04 Speaker 3: oh I want to talk about this stuff, and they

1:07:05 Speaker 3: clear him, and we're saying, oh, if it was true,

1:07:09 Speaker 3: they wouldn't want it out or they couldn't tell him

1:07:13 Speaker 3: not to because then it reveals the existence of it.

1:07:15 Speaker 3: So this is a sticky area where it's it's kind

1:07:18 Speaker 3: of it's like confirmed any way you look at it,

1:07:22 Speaker 3: even though there's no no proof other than the guy

1:07:24 Speaker 3: saying it. So like if he's made he's making a

1:07:26 Speaker 3: claim that there's there's biologics right now. If that's not true,

1:07:31 Speaker 3: then it is not a classified thing. Therefore they can't

1:07:34 Speaker 3: tell him not to say it.

1:07:37 Speaker 1: Also a good point also, it's well, you know, yeah,

1:07:41 Speaker 1: because I guess you could. Well, that is actually really

1:07:44 Speaker 1: good point. So it is kind of what the Yeah, Donnie,

1:07:47 Speaker 1: I would say that it's a catch twenty two.

1:07:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a catch twenty two or catch twenty Well,

1:07:53 Speaker 3: it's used as a catch twenty two by UFO content

1:07:56 Speaker 3: creators and people in this sphere. They use the trappings

1:08:01 Speaker 3: of DOPSA and the kind of ambiguity and misunderstanding of

1:08:05 Speaker 3: the by the public of this process to say, oh, well,

1:08:08 Speaker 3: dops are approved it, and then people run with it

1:08:11 Speaker 3: and go, oh my god, doptsor approved it. It's all true,

1:08:13 Speaker 3: and it's like, no, it just wasn't classified. That actually

1:08:15 Speaker 3: leads me to believe it's probably not true. If dops

1:08:20 Speaker 3: aren't turning around and going no, that's a classified thing,

1:08:24 Speaker 3: it's probably not true. You're mute, sir.

1:08:30 Speaker 1: I just realized that my door to the studio is

1:08:33 Speaker 1: open and my dog is in here, but I don't

1:08:36 Speaker 1: see them, So what Yeah, my studio door is open,

1:08:43 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I can't see my dog. So

1:08:46 Speaker 1: give me one moment, a different start.

1:08:49 Speaker 3: I'll start prepping the next story. Hell, everybody always an

1:08:55 Speaker 3: adventure here, always adventure here.

1:09:00 Speaker 1: I got them, all right, everybody. Logan is safe. Logan

1:09:04 Speaker 1: is safe. So the door is closed. I was like,

1:09:06 Speaker 1: it looked open from here, and I just had a

1:09:08 Speaker 1: fucking mini panic attack.

1:09:11 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So to save us, to save us, going

1:09:14 Speaker 3: too too long? So the you wanted to bring up

1:09:19 Speaker 3: the boogosphere carbon dating?

1:09:22 Speaker 1: Yes, do you have the do you have the I

1:09:24 Speaker 1: do you have the report? Yes? All right, guys, literally

1:09:31 Speaker 1: if you know so, probably at an hour and fifteen,

1:09:35 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut the Twitter feed. If you would come

1:09:40 Speaker 1: over to YouTube, it would really help. And again, any

1:09:43 Speaker 1: uh any donations are really really helpful. We'll be here

1:09:47 Speaker 1: every Thursday for the foreseeable future and it's gonna be really.

1:09:53 Speaker 3: I've tried to do it, all right.

1:09:55 Speaker 1: You might have to make that big.

1:09:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the highest quality copy of it. So

1:10:01 Speaker 3: I ran this through a channel friend Rock Expert, who

1:10:08 Speaker 3: told me a bunch of stuff about this document. It's

1:10:10 Speaker 3: a legitimate document. The people involved in it are legitimate scientists.

1:10:14 Speaker 3: They are accredited. I was actually quite surprised because up

1:10:18 Speaker 3: until now this whole boogles fare thing has seemed booky,

1:10:22 Speaker 3: spooky and bookie. But no, so this report is real.

1:10:28 Speaker 3: It's carbondated to what it is. But it's very important

1:10:31 Speaker 3: to note that this is a carbon dating of let

1:10:39 Speaker 3: me switch tabersecond, it's a carbon dating of this these

1:10:43 Speaker 3: resin dots on the bottom of the sphere, not of

1:10:46 Speaker 3: the metal itself. So I know I'm sharing a doctor

1:10:52 Speaker 3: Stephen Greer tweet. I feel horrible inside on the repent later.

1:10:56 Speaker 3: But it's just important to note that like in can

1:11:01 Speaker 3: exist for thousands of years. Have you sayn Jurassic Park, Yeah,

1:11:05 Speaker 3: that's you know, that's the amber. Amber resin is, you know.

1:11:09 Speaker 1: And if this thing hit the ground, if it if

1:11:12 Speaker 1: it fell, you know, or or and let's say it

1:11:17 Speaker 1: is something anomalous and it was in the air and

1:11:20 Speaker 1: it comes crashing down and then something some like resin

1:11:25 Speaker 1: gets lodged in it. Uh, you know, it could be

1:11:28 Speaker 1: anomalous some sort of anomalous uh technology. But this carbon

1:11:33 Speaker 1: dating doesn't really say anything.

1:11:36 Speaker 3: Right, it's it's it's yeah, it's kind of inconclusive to

1:11:40 Speaker 3: a point where we yeah, we because if you look,

1:11:44 Speaker 3: I mean, if you look closely, you can kind of

1:11:45 Speaker 3: see like, yeah, can we get it's gonna give me

1:11:50 Speaker 3: a second, Let's do this the other way.

1:11:52 Speaker 1: It looks like it looks imperfect.

1:11:56 Speaker 3: Well, it looks like I'll be honest, it looks like

1:11:59 Speaker 3: so it looks like a circuit soldering.

1:12:03 Speaker 1: I mean, that looks exactly like a circuit, right it does.

1:12:07 Speaker 3: And then but then it's got instead of solder, it's

1:12:10 Speaker 3: got resin, which is interesting because then they test the

1:12:13 Speaker 3: resin and they find out it's super duper role. But

1:12:16 Speaker 3: resin can last for a very very very long time

1:12:19 Speaker 3: and be stored for a very long time. So if

1:12:21 Speaker 3: this is man made and they put some I mean,

1:12:24 Speaker 3: what I would want to do is find out where

1:12:27 Speaker 3: this resin came from. What's the composition of this resin?

1:12:29 Speaker 3: Does it match anywhere on Earth or known resin samples

1:12:33 Speaker 3: of Earth? I guess that's the next the next step

1:12:36 Speaker 3: in finding out what this thing is. But it's this,

1:12:40 Speaker 3: this is not conclusive in any way. And you know,

1:12:43 Speaker 3: seeing someone like Stephen Grier sharing and like, oh my god,

1:12:46 Speaker 3: it's confirmed. It's twelve thousand years old. No, it was

1:12:50 Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell. Yeah, man, you're you're you're on a roll

1:12:55 Speaker 3: with Mitch mcconnald today. Where are we there? We go?

1:13:00 Speaker 1: So and and I think a real big so and listen,

1:13:04 Speaker 1: I don't think the fact that that the resin says

1:13:09 Speaker 1: it's this age is you know, I don't. I don't

1:13:13 Speaker 1: think that that discounts that if this this could be

1:13:17 Speaker 1: I mean, could this be an artifact of some sort

1:13:20 Speaker 1: of ancient civilization? Could could this be something that we

1:13:26 Speaker 1: we came across.

1:13:26 Speaker 3: I mean that raises that raises questions about manufacturing processes. Well,

1:13:31 Speaker 3: of course, yeah, of course. I feel like that gets

1:13:34 Speaker 3: us to like the pyramids whatever, How are they building

1:13:37 Speaker 3: these kinds of things meso America?

1:13:40 Speaker 1: Right? And but so, and that's my point is I

1:13:44 Speaker 1: think that we we do owe it. I mean, when

1:13:48 Speaker 1: I talked to Burleson about it, he went down and

1:13:51 Speaker 1: saw this thing and touched held in and you know,

1:13:54 Speaker 1: examined it. He said that it wasn't that it didn't

1:13:59 Speaker 1: impress him. So make of that what you will. It

1:14:04 Speaker 1: didn't impress uh, Congressman Congressman Burlison, you know, And and

1:14:09 Speaker 1: I don't think it's see what doesn't help this case

1:14:13 Speaker 1: is that himI Mussan and the Greer are attached to it.

1:14:17 Speaker 1: Two people who have been caught doing stuff that has

1:14:22 Speaker 1: been either debunked or genuinely like knowingly hoaxed, like the

1:14:30 Speaker 1: Little Alien got the little the Greer with the Little

1:14:34 Speaker 1: Alien and Gary Malin and then himI with the the other. Yeah. There, no,

1:14:43 Speaker 1: there was that that there was an original one of

1:14:45 Speaker 1: this mummy.

1:14:48 Speaker 3: The mummy the Emory Smith turned up to a conference

1:14:51 Speaker 3: and the figurine model.

1:14:54 Speaker 1: That's the Yeah, that's the Greer one. himI if you

1:14:57 Speaker 1: look it up. Himie was peddling this thing and they

1:15:00 Speaker 1: sold tickets and all the shit, and they showed this

1:15:06 Speaker 1: picture of a mummy and it turned out to be

1:15:10 Speaker 1: a picture of a mummy that was in some museum

1:15:12 Speaker 1: and it was of a disfigured like young boy. But

1:15:19 Speaker 1: Dolan was Richard Dolan. This is the one crazy part.

1:15:23 Speaker 1: They got Richard Dolan involved in it, and and that's

1:15:26 Speaker 1: like the one blemish that I know of on his record,

1:15:30 Speaker 1: and that's why I think he stays far away from

1:15:33 Speaker 1: a lot of this. No, it was maybe someone in

1:15:36 Speaker 1: the chat can help us chat, but they were hiding

1:15:40 Speaker 1: and all them. They did this like big auditorium thing

1:15:44 Speaker 1: and they showed this picture and it was a mummy

1:15:47 Speaker 1: inside of like a closed thing. And it turns out

1:15:52 Speaker 1: that it was on some sort of it was it

1:15:54 Speaker 1: was at some sort of natural museum history. It was

1:15:57 Speaker 1: just a photo out of that and they like change

1:16:01 Speaker 1: the colors and stuff.

1:16:05 Speaker 3: So they took they took a photo and photoshopped it

1:16:08 Speaker 3: to look more alien and then.

1:16:10 Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, something like that happened. So yeah,

1:16:14 Speaker 1: a child mummy. I think that he remembers it. So

1:16:18 Speaker 1: himI has been he's been known and listen, I don't

1:16:22 Speaker 1: think that himI. I'm not saying he's an evil guy.

1:16:26 Speaker 1: He's not the Egyptologist what's that name, zich. I don't

1:16:35 Speaker 1: think he's like evil like Zachie Halases who. But but

1:16:40 Speaker 1: I do think that that that himI is a TV

1:16:43 Speaker 1: show host, and you know he needs to like ratings, ratings, ratings, right,

1:16:49 Speaker 1: this is I know.

1:16:50 Speaker 3: That Moti and this this ship started with Prometheus Entertainment

1:16:55 Speaker 3: in two thousand and six when they started Ancient Aliens

1:16:59 Speaker 3: and they started humping out bullshit, bullshit alien things to

1:17:06 Speaker 3: millions and millions of people on the History channel.

1:17:08 Speaker 1: Oh that is it. They cropped out the card that

1:17:11 Speaker 1: identified that it was a child mummery mummy, and then

1:17:14 Speaker 1: they blurred it.

1:17:15 Speaker 3: Up a little bit imagine shot.

1:17:18 Speaker 5: Yeah.

1:17:18 Speaker 1: So and then and and they got dude, they sold

1:17:22 Speaker 1: tickets that like it was this big breaking like you know,

1:17:27 Speaker 1: like disclosure is inevitable kind of event that they were

1:17:32 Speaker 1: gonna reveal proof of an alien species. And then like

1:17:37 Speaker 1: a day later, dude, someone's like bing founded, you guys

1:17:42 Speaker 1: are fucking like it was. It's it's a travesty because

1:17:45 Speaker 1: these things are always happening in the UFO community. And

1:17:48 Speaker 1: it's again, have.

1:17:50 Speaker 3: You noticed how all of these things they always seem

1:17:52 Speaker 3: to come from like older guys or all the older

1:17:55 Speaker 3: people yep, And it's like they they don't understand how

1:17:59 Speaker 3: the inter networks. They think it's like, oh, oh I

1:18:03 Speaker 3: get I can get one over on them. People aren't

1:18:05 Speaker 3: going to notice. And within ten minutes sometimes you have

1:18:08 Speaker 3: like like and you see this UPHO videos, like people

1:18:11 Speaker 3: will pinpoint the flight, will altitude, what direction, everything within

1:18:16 Speaker 3: like five ten minutes because we have the technology to

1:18:18 Speaker 3: do that. Now, well that's like the people, right.

1:18:23 Speaker 1: Like people they tried to pass off those guys are truly,

1:18:28 Speaker 1: truly fraudsters. And again I don't yeah, not even I

1:18:33 Speaker 1: don't think it. I don't think it's a surprise to

1:18:36 Speaker 1: anyone that they hook their belt and their wagon to

1:18:41 Speaker 1: doctor career and make all these prou documentaries with them

1:18:46 Speaker 1: and the Cousin brothers. I mean, the they're they're they

1:18:50 Speaker 1: were so sloppy with their work and it's like these

1:18:54 Speaker 1: people are just what they're doing is they're clicking. They're

1:18:57 Speaker 1: getting the clicks. They're they're they're turning a profit off

1:19:01 Speaker 1: of that ad revenue and the donations for people who

1:19:03 Speaker 1: want to believe, and then that leads way to the

1:19:07 Speaker 1: secret space program stuff and all these other grifts that

1:19:11 Speaker 1: have have have been known. Like there's a reason that

1:19:14 Speaker 1: people laugh at the UFO community. There there's I mean,

1:19:19 Speaker 1: we haven't done a good job of I mean, there

1:19:22 Speaker 1: are great people in the field, Like there are great people,

1:19:26 Speaker 1: but there are so many fraudsters and and and people

1:19:29 Speaker 1: that are are are literally just trying to and and

1:19:35 Speaker 1: you know, get attention and uh tell you there's some

1:19:39 Speaker 1: sort of star seed from Alpha Centauri. It's it's crazy.

1:19:45 Speaker 1: And and then when the real stuff comes along and

1:19:47 Speaker 1: that That's what makes me think, like is it a

1:19:50 Speaker 1: sy op? Because I mean, yeah, it gets debunked or

1:19:56 Speaker 1: it gets lumped in with everything else, and you know,

1:20:02 Speaker 1: people laugh at it and they're like, oh yeah, okay, sure, sure, sure,

1:20:06 Speaker 1: you know, just just crazy Uncle Dave that Thanksgiving talking

1:20:10 Speaker 1: about There's.

1:20:12 Speaker 3: Been an icy effort to kind of manage the community

1:20:15 Speaker 3: ever since Keyho went on that interview and started naming names. Right, yes,

1:20:20 Speaker 3: so we're seven decades into into this. I would call

1:20:25 Speaker 3: the whole thing a sign because there was there was

1:20:27 Speaker 3: a concerted operation to manage the public perception of the

1:20:32 Speaker 3: topic through blue Book and and through that mechanism. What

1:20:35 Speaker 3: just happened. You're muted and you switch cameras. It's always

1:20:41 Speaker 3: a bundle of inventions here and disclosed what was I saying?

1:20:49 Speaker 3: I can't hear so Keyho? Right, So the cover up,

1:20:55 Speaker 3: the psychological cover up, started with Keyho in and making

1:21:00 Speaker 3: you concerned that because if you look at the timing

1:21:02 Speaker 3: of Keyho doing that, right after that is when all

1:21:05 Speaker 3: of these alien contact he started coming forward, like Fantassel

1:21:09 Speaker 3: and the Damski and all, so I almost see that stuff,

1:21:13 Speaker 3: so that there was a bifurcation in the past you

1:21:16 Speaker 3: had just euthology was just the thing. Then you've got

1:21:19 Speaker 3: this new age branch that is way more fantastical and

1:21:25 Speaker 3: attractive because it plays the people's faith like that, you know,

1:21:33 Speaker 3: and it played on White America's faith in the fifties

1:21:37 Speaker 3: and led people into you know, that that that primed people.

1:21:43 Speaker 3: Is that as it moved into like the sixties kind

1:21:46 Speaker 3: of counterculture era where it became cool and hip to

1:21:50 Speaker 3: question the man, and the idea of a government cover

1:21:53 Speaker 3: up was a lot, especially after JFK, was a lot

1:21:56 Speaker 3: easier to believe, even though I mean, even if, even

1:21:59 Speaker 3: though though that point we really had was like Betty

1:22:02 Speaker 3: and Bonnie Hill, you know, and I guess and I guess,

1:22:06 Speaker 3: you know, I guess Malmstroam happened and stuff. But we

1:22:08 Speaker 3: didn't hear about that until ninety five.

1:22:09 Speaker 1: So right, I mean Pathca Goula. I think the seventies

1:22:14 Speaker 1: were probably a really good time for But the seventies

1:22:18 Speaker 1: had a lot of abduction. Like the seventies, there was

1:22:24 Speaker 1: the I mean, there's a giant there. There's a giant

1:22:26 Speaker 1: data set from the seventies from from Isn't.

1:22:30 Speaker 3: It interesting how abduction stories massively increased after the introduction

1:22:34 Speaker 3: of psychedelics to the culture.

1:22:36 Speaker 1: It's that is actually pretty interesting. And I will say,

1:22:39 Speaker 1: as someone who has done psychedelics and I've done d MT,

1:22:45 Speaker 1: with DMT, like I literally shot out of the like

1:22:51 Speaker 1: let's call it the crown chakra, just so you know

1:22:54 Speaker 1: people can understand what I mean. Like, it literally felt

1:22:57 Speaker 1: like I shot out through the crown chakra of my

1:23:01 Speaker 1: of my head. Yeah, like Reed Richard's yeah, my galactus.

1:23:06 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I'm in this this realm,

1:23:13 Speaker 1: and Carrie, I kid you, not this place whenever it

1:23:18 Speaker 1: was And again I am I am hard to like

1:23:23 Speaker 1: I have a very very tight grip on reality. I'm

1:23:29 Speaker 1: very very grounded. And even though I have had a

1:23:32 Speaker 1: UFO sighting and I did have something weird happened to

1:23:35 Speaker 1: me when my mom died, when when I was in

1:23:37 Speaker 1: the room with her, that has raised my bar so

1:23:42 Speaker 1: high because I know what I have seen that when

1:23:45 Speaker 1: I had this experience with d MT, I mean that

1:23:51 Speaker 1: felt the most real out of all of them. I

1:23:54 Speaker 1: went somewhere and and it was I'm color blind. There

1:23:57 Speaker 1: was colors I'd never seen before. Look, there was things

1:24:02 Speaker 1: that it just like fractals, and it felt like the

1:24:06 Speaker 1: universe was bent around me and I was able to

1:24:10 Speaker 1: walk on this like glass and like this glassy material.

1:24:14 Speaker 1: I only say that because I think it's a good representation.

1:24:18 Speaker 1: But it was like walking through you know, when you

1:24:21 Speaker 1: go through like like i'd say, like an aquarium and

1:24:28 Speaker 1: they have those tunnels where like the aquariums all around

1:24:30 Speaker 1: you and the fish are swimming all around you, and

1:24:34 Speaker 1: you walk through the tunnel and the fishes tanks it

1:24:36 Speaker 1: all around you. It felt like that. But picture of

1:24:38 Speaker 1: the universe is outside. I'm walking through the tunnel and

1:24:41 Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel there's this thing, this being,

1:24:46 Speaker 1: and I know it's a being because it's standing upright

1:24:49 Speaker 1: and it's got this like hood thing on. And I

1:24:52 Speaker 1: get up to it. I look into its eyes. It

1:24:55 Speaker 1: had no eyes. I know, people say machine else I

1:24:59 Speaker 1: did not see that there was it was. It looked

1:25:02 Speaker 1: more like the grim fucking Reaper. It had no face,

1:25:06 Speaker 1: and but I knew in my head that it's it.

1:25:11 Speaker 1: It was thinking you should not be here right now.

1:25:15 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be here, And I got like, actually, like

1:25:18 Speaker 1: I got upset, and I was like, fuck you. I

1:25:20 Speaker 1: didn't I don't think I said fuck you to him,

1:25:22 Speaker 1: but I was like, who are you to tell me?

1:25:24 Speaker 1: Like where I can and can't be? And as soon

1:25:26 Speaker 1: as I took a step past him, boo, like like

1:25:30 Speaker 1: a sling shot, I slung back into my body and

1:25:36 Speaker 1: I for like three weeks, I was I just I

1:25:42 Speaker 1: couldn't stop thinking about it. It was all I could

1:25:45 Speaker 1: think about how real it was.

1:25:47 Speaker 3: So yeah, I got a couple I got a couple

1:25:50 Speaker 3: of thoughts about that. So that's that's a very interesting story,

1:25:54 Speaker 3: similar to the experience I had. So this is the

1:25:59 Speaker 3: feeling of the extra colors and stuff. Is it's like

1:26:01 Speaker 3: realer than real? Right? Yes, it was really So it's

1:26:05 Speaker 3: like it's yeah, it's like being in being in unreality

1:26:08 Speaker 3: where everything is just it's it's hard to put into words,

1:26:13 Speaker 3: but it's like you're getting all the sensory input at

1:26:17 Speaker 3: once and everything is real. Two. Uh, what you described

1:26:24 Speaker 3: is a non Euclidean space where it's wrapping, where it's

1:26:28 Speaker 3: like wrapping around you and your awareness is kind of

1:26:31 Speaker 3: folding through it because it's not do you know the

1:26:35 Speaker 3: difference between Euclidean and Nuclidean space, So god h And

1:26:42 Speaker 3: three that you shouldn't be here and standing as I

1:26:49 Speaker 3: think heimed all in in that like observing but gatekeeping

1:26:58 Speaker 3: the realm.

1:26:59 Speaker 1: So for anyone who doesn't now him, Noel is the

1:27:02 Speaker 1: for like Norse mythology. Uh is in the Marvel universe,

1:27:07 Speaker 1: more famous in the Marvel universe for watching over the

1:27:12 Speaker 1: Nine realms. And yeah, so basically, uh, yeah, it's a

1:27:17 Speaker 1: that's a very very good way to say that's a

1:27:20 Speaker 1: very good way to say it. That's pretty trippy actually, uh,

1:27:25 Speaker 1: because you know what, another question it raised for me

1:27:31 Speaker 1: was was I out of my body? Literally? And was

1:27:34 Speaker 1: it saying to me like, you shouldn't be out of

1:27:37 Speaker 1: your You're not occupying your body, you shouldn't be here,

1:27:41 Speaker 1: Like maybe is possession real? Did I leave my body

1:27:47 Speaker 1: and was my body for a moment susceptible to something

1:27:51 Speaker 1: else and coming in andhabiting it? And then when I

1:27:55 Speaker 1: came back, then I come back and I'm demon possessed, Like,

1:28:00 Speaker 1: you know, could there be a correlation there? I think?

1:28:03 Speaker 3: So, I don't know. I think we're going to have

1:28:06 Speaker 3: to do a few clearing sessions to find out if

1:28:08 Speaker 3: you are possessed or not.

1:28:11 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's an interesting like, well that I'll

1:28:17 Speaker 7: be honest, that's what I took from it.

1:28:19 Speaker 3: That's like, did you feel your body went in this experience?

1:28:22 Speaker 3: Were you just a floating awareness.

1:28:24 Speaker 1: Or well, my body?

1:28:26 Speaker 3: So you have you have a physical avatar in this space.

1:28:29 Speaker 1: I had a physical avatar in the space that resembled

1:28:33 Speaker 1: I didn't have any mirrors there, but it resembled to

1:28:37 Speaker 1: the most degree my human body. But the feeling of

1:28:42 Speaker 1: snapping back into my body gave me the sense that

1:28:46 Speaker 1: maybe I wasn't. Maybe I my astral If they that

1:28:51 Speaker 1: you know your death experiences, the people that have those

1:28:56 Speaker 1: that talk about it a lot that it's kind of

1:28:58 Speaker 1: like that third person view. You leave your body and

1:29:04 Speaker 1: if we do that, is that our soul? And is

1:29:07 Speaker 1: is is that the power of the soul? And is

1:29:09 Speaker 1: the soul leaving the body? And now you know it

1:29:12 Speaker 1: is open as susceptible to darker forces that that I

1:29:17 Speaker 1: think are very real. If you don't think evil is real,

1:29:20 Speaker 1: then you're you're yeah.

1:29:21 Speaker 3: I mean evil is is a I think it's more

1:29:25 Speaker 3: of an energy signature in people. It's like a certain vibe. Yeah,

1:29:31 Speaker 3: the the the idea of you shouldn't be here. It's

1:29:35 Speaker 3: interesting because it's it raises questions like are they in

1:29:40 Speaker 3: some kind of brain cosmology where they're outside of conventional

1:29:43 Speaker 3: space time so they can kind of like an interstellar

1:29:46 Speaker 3: where they can see everywhere. Is it a case of

1:29:50 Speaker 3: you were you weren't in the right setting, so you

1:29:54 Speaker 3: hadn't you hadn't done it in the right way. Because

1:29:57 Speaker 3: it's got me thinking about I read Alien Information Theory

1:30:01 Speaker 3: by Andrew G. Animal and that talks about how we

1:30:06 Speaker 3: can look at d M T as a like a

1:30:08 Speaker 3: technology in that the by by taking it, it's basically

1:30:14 Speaker 3: creating like a dial up tone in your brain to

1:30:18 Speaker 3: be able to to It's creating like almost like a

1:30:22 Speaker 3: digital in if you look at it on a like

1:30:25 Speaker 3: a informational theory level, it's like allowing a data transfer

1:30:32 Speaker 3: to happen, right.

1:30:35 Speaker 1: Right, And yeah, I mean these substances, you know, I

1:30:40 Speaker 1: think I think they do unlock, you know, because and

1:30:45 Speaker 1: I think anyone can anyone who's done like you know, psilocybin,

1:30:51 Speaker 1: you know, if not synthetic psilocybe, but where you lose

1:30:53 Speaker 1: your mind and you know all that stuff. But you know,

1:30:59 Speaker 1: if you've ever eaten mushrooms are taken acid, so you know,

1:31:03 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I ever ever took psilocybin,

1:31:08 Speaker 1: and then you know when it when it wore off.

1:31:11 Speaker 1: The next day, I was sitting outside, you know, and

1:31:14 Speaker 1: the grass was kind of like swaying and the uh glow, yeah,

1:31:19 Speaker 1: the the the trees, you know, and I and I

1:31:23 Speaker 1: was looking at everything, and it was like I knew

1:31:26 Speaker 1: I had a different appreciation for what like the bee

1:31:31 Speaker 1: jumping from flower to flower everything, you know, all of

1:31:35 Speaker 1: a sudden I could see the the the ecosystem around me,

1:31:42 Speaker 1: for for the beauty that it is right right, and

1:31:45 Speaker 1: and for for for actually the very that what humans

1:31:50 Speaker 1: do is disrupt that natural ecosystem.

1:31:56 Speaker 3: And integra experience where so yeah, you'll know, looking at

1:32:00 Speaker 3: the system, you are part of the system. I had

1:32:03 Speaker 3: a similar thing. I actually had a very similar thing

1:32:05 Speaker 3: on mushrooms, probably about ten years ago, where I had

1:32:10 Speaker 3: to go walk my friend's dog before like we all

1:32:13 Speaker 3: came up proper. But as I'm walking the dog, I

1:32:16 Speaker 3: start to come up and I'm looking at a line

1:32:18 Speaker 3: of ants on the tree and like I just had

1:32:21 Speaker 3: this like it was like my consciousness had opened the door.

1:32:25 Speaker 3: And it wasn't like super trippy, but it was like

1:32:27 Speaker 3: the perceptual, like I think of it, like, you know,

1:32:30 Speaker 3: in the first episode of Futurama, Bender has been living

1:32:34 Speaker 3: in a little cupboard and him he's like, oh, you

1:32:38 Speaker 3: can stay here, you can have that corner, and then

1:32:40 Speaker 3: they lean on the button to the door and they've

1:32:42 Speaker 3: got a whole apartment behind it. That's what I feel

1:32:45 Speaker 3: psychedelics has done.

1:32:47 Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good visual.

1:32:50 Speaker 3: So it's definitely it was definitely some a moment where

1:32:57 Speaker 3: I just went ah into connectedness with everything, you know,

1:33:02 Speaker 3: and I carried that energy into the into the rest

1:33:04 Speaker 3: of the night. And actually, what's funny is that was

1:33:12 Speaker 3: the same place where I've spoken about this before. So

1:33:16 Speaker 3: I took acid and then I found Guya dot com.

1:33:19 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so that was it was at

1:33:23 Speaker 3: the same same house. It was like a year later

1:33:27 Speaker 3: across so well, it was more I'm more thinking of

1:33:33 Speaker 3: set and settings, so like it was, it was somewhere

1:33:35 Speaker 3: where I was already consciously comfortable tripping and I was

1:33:39 Speaker 3: around people I was comfortable tripping with, So to have

1:33:43 Speaker 3: that kind of come up and interconnected moment, it felt

1:33:46 Speaker 3: very natural because I was in a very comfortable space

1:33:50 Speaker 3: and I wonder if this gatekeeping of you shouldn't be

1:33:53 Speaker 3: here is because you you didn't and I don't. I mean,

1:33:56 Speaker 3: I don't know what the circumstances of your trip was,

1:33:58 Speaker 3: but whether it was did you do it in like

1:34:03 Speaker 3: a spiritual way or did you do it in a

1:34:05 Speaker 3: I'm getting fucked up with.

1:34:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does matter. It does because there, I've I've

1:34:13 Speaker 1: done d MT on multiple occasions, and yeah, you're onto

1:34:20 Speaker 1: something there because and there. I mean, there's a reason

1:34:22 Speaker 1: why when you take them Mark, Hey, I'll tell you.

1:34:24 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one last funny story before you move on.

1:34:28 Speaker 1: I I I when I first moved out of my

1:34:32 Speaker 1: my my parents house, I didn't go too far. I

1:34:36 Speaker 1: moved down the street into my friend's actually my best

1:34:39 Speaker 1: my brother's best friend his house. And they had a

1:34:44 Speaker 1: fucking pig. And I'm not talking about a teacup pig.

1:34:51 Speaker 1: They thought it was. And this thing was up. It

1:34:55 Speaker 1: became a fucking hog. I was. I. I was home

1:35:00 Speaker 1: alone one night and I was like, oh, dude, I'm

1:35:03 Speaker 1: gonna watch Supernatural. I'm gonna eat this tablet of acid

1:35:07 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have a fucking great night. I was

1:35:10 Speaker 1: so pumped. I get home and it's I'm the only

1:35:16 Speaker 1: one there. It's just me and Piggy Smalls, And I

1:35:23 Speaker 1: took the tab of ass. Yeah that was the pig's name.

1:35:25 Speaker 1: Piggy Smalls shout out Keenan Parlan, you know it. So

1:35:30 Speaker 1: I take that. Yeah, but I take the acid. I

1:35:35 Speaker 1: start tripping, and you know how they say like like

1:35:38 Speaker 1: animals will know when you're high or something. Yeah, it's

1:35:42 Speaker 1: I can unquestionably say that. I believe that wholeheartedly because

1:35:48 Speaker 1: as soon as I started tripping, this pig started charging me.

1:35:54 Speaker 1: When I'm like, charging it at me dead on, like

1:35:59 Speaker 1: I I was jumping to the top of the couch

1:36:02 Speaker 1: like this, and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

1:36:08 Speaker 1: It turned into a demon and the thing just every

1:36:13 Speaker 1: time I tried to get to you know, get to

1:36:15 Speaker 1: the refrigerator, this thing would just.

1:36:20 Speaker 3: And what at me chatting?

1:36:22 Speaker 1: And I ended up. Dude, I was so freaked out,

1:36:25 Speaker 1: and I'll sit I came downstairs because I was like,

1:36:29 Speaker 1: fuck this, I'm going upstairs, and I remember you were

1:36:32 Speaker 1: we weren't supposed to smoke in the house, but I

1:36:34 Speaker 1: was smoking out the window because I didn't want to

1:36:37 Speaker 1: go down to see that fucking that hell pig and

1:36:40 Speaker 1: uh when I did go down, dude, this thing was

1:36:43 Speaker 1: eating a case of CDs. It was like chewing on glass,

1:36:49 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, what the fuck is going on?

1:36:54 Speaker 1: Like was the worst trip I've ever had in my life.

1:36:59 Speaker 1: So if you would do not do not take acid

1:37:04 Speaker 1: in a home with a pig, they'll do it. It's

1:37:07 Speaker 1: not fun.

1:37:07 Speaker 3: See, I thought I'd had a bad trip, but that's

1:37:10 Speaker 3: a pretty bad trip. Yeah, dude, it was so fake,

1:37:14 Speaker 3: the worst trip I ever had. It was like twenty

1:37:17 Speaker 3: twenty one for my birthday and me and some friends

1:37:20 Speaker 3: with some acid and we watched Tenant and it was like, yeah,

1:37:26 Speaker 3: this movie still doesn't make any sense. And now I'm

1:37:28 Speaker 3: just now I'm hot.

1:37:30 Speaker 1: No, I don't like I can't hear anyone's wrong.

1:37:34 Speaker 3: We turned it off like halfway through because we were

1:37:36 Speaker 3: just like, this is not a good time, man, this

1:37:38 Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense. Like the music's really loud and

1:37:42 Speaker 3: I just want to play. So we end up turning.

1:37:46 Speaker 3: We end up like going for going for a walk

1:37:48 Speaker 3: around like the nature Reserve to like get out of

1:37:51 Speaker 3: your tenant.

1:37:53 Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy? Though? How like you're with someone like

1:37:57 Speaker 1: when you're on mushrooms. Mushrooms more specific than acid mushrooms,

1:38:02 Speaker 1: Like you can feel other people's auras and you'll know

1:38:07 Speaker 1: if someone's like angry or upset, you'll tap into it

1:38:12 Speaker 1: and and like it will affect you. So that's why

1:38:16 Speaker 1: if you do take these kind of things, first off,

1:38:19 Speaker 1: you should you should have a very firm grasp on reality.

1:38:25 Speaker 1: You should be very comfortable in your own skin. You

1:38:29 Speaker 1: shouldn't if I mean, if you're borderline personality disorder, you

1:38:33 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't take acid, mushrooms, d empty or anything that

1:38:37 Speaker 1: will do something like that to you. It's a real

1:38:43 Speaker 1: problem and we've seen it. So that's my my PSA

1:38:48 Speaker 1: for the night. Guys. Yeah, so I.

1:38:51 Speaker 3: Want to say we have we have one story, but

1:38:53 Speaker 3: I know.

1:38:54 Speaker 1: We have we have one final story. But I also

1:38:57 Speaker 1: have a little banter that I think we could do

1:39:00 Speaker 1: at the end of the show. Let's jump into that

1:39:03 Speaker 1: last topic because I got a lot of shit to

1:39:05 Speaker 1: say about this.

1:39:06 Speaker 3: All right, So this final story is good. So we're

1:39:09 Speaker 3: gonna play the video. Now you've probably heard ourself. Yeah,

1:39:14 Speaker 3: so you've probably all heard about it. This the video

1:39:17 Speaker 3: that was played at the recent congressional hearing of a

1:39:23 Speaker 3: hell fire missile hitting an quote orb unquote, and the

1:39:30 Speaker 3: the orb apparently then splits into multiple orbs and then continues.

1:39:35 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of questions surrounding it. I think

1:39:39 Speaker 3: we should we should open it up and play the

1:39:41 Speaker 3: clip from Dr Rogers talking about it, because then I

1:39:44 Speaker 3: can get into the stuff that I found while looking

1:39:48 Speaker 3: into it. Because last night, so just to explain to

1:39:52 Speaker 3: the audience last night, when we were were kind of

1:39:53 Speaker 3: soft locking what we were gonna we're gonna cover today,

1:39:57 Speaker 3: Tyler brought up a very interesting point to me that

1:40:00 Speaker 3: heal fire missile is primarily an air to ground missile.

1:40:05 Speaker 3: It's not it's not an air to wear missile. And

1:40:09 Speaker 3: this got got a huge problem. This is because it's

1:40:13 Speaker 3: a problem, and they've got my brain going going, well,

1:40:15 Speaker 3: how what is that? Is that like a thing? Can

1:40:18 Speaker 3: they be used in air to it?

1:40:19 Speaker 6: Like?

1:40:19 Speaker 3: Are they misidentifying what kind of missile it was? So

1:40:22 Speaker 3: I went looking and we'll get to what I found

1:40:26 Speaker 3: after we play the clip from Dr Rogers. If you

1:40:29 Speaker 3: have that prepparized prepparized, that's not a word prepared.

1:40:34 Speaker 1: I think I can play it. I didn't clip that part, no, no, no,

1:40:41 Speaker 1: but I can look at it and I literally have

1:40:44 Speaker 1: it ready. You can. I record all my phone calls

1:40:47 Speaker 1: with him, and I want to see if it did

1:40:54 Speaker 1: you hear that?

1:40:56 Speaker 3: Yep, agreed, they wanted to test it.

1:41:02 Speaker 4: Gland missile, you don't fire and a moving object.

1:41:09 Speaker 5: Now, then if they have upgraded it and they wanted

1:41:13 Speaker 5: to test it, they would have a video, they would

1:41:19 Speaker 5: have a drone line and they would.

1:41:21 Speaker 4: Check to see if it would hit it. But so

1:41:26 Speaker 4: you can see everything. Well, you don't put an explosive

1:41:29 Speaker 4: in the war head and when it.

1:41:32 Speaker 5: Hits, it doesn't explode, It just bounces off. It bounces

1:41:38 Speaker 5: off and so you can see the help our missile

1:41:41 Speaker 5: going out of view to the lower right, and then

1:41:47 Speaker 5: it knocks the UAV you a the unmanned aerial vehicle.

1:41:55 Speaker 5: It knocks knocks it off its track. But then if

1:41:57 Speaker 5: it regains and they continue to follow it, to me,

1:42:03 Speaker 5: that is completely a test of a new weapon system.

1:42:07 Speaker 4: It is not defense of a maybe vessel.

1:42:12 Speaker 5: If the if the Navy vessel is really wanting to

1:42:15 Speaker 5: defend itself, air air missile.

1:42:21 Speaker 1: Can canna use one that it knows is going to

1:42:24 Speaker 1: do the job, not something.

1:42:25 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not going to use an air to ground missile,

1:42:30 Speaker 5: uh to do this. It was experimental, so m yeah,

1:42:38 Speaker 5: if they were going to take out a take. Now,

1:42:43 Speaker 5: remember it was released in an unauthorized fashion so they

1:42:52 Speaker 5: could make it look like it was an actual attack

1:42:57 Speaker 5: that was being warned off. The Navy doesn't even have

1:43:02 Speaker 5: to deny it because it wasn't officially released, right, I.

1:43:06 Speaker 1: Don't even have to acknowledge it.

1:43:08 Speaker 5: Yeah, so they don't have to say, oh, that was

1:43:11 Speaker 5: test footage. They don't have to say anything because they

1:43:15 Speaker 5: didn't atalize it to be released, and so it was

1:43:18 Speaker 5: leaked by someone just just just to make.

1:43:24 Speaker 4: It look good. You know that hearing was a dog

1:43:28 Speaker 4: and pony show, as we've been come ed in the military.

1:43:32 Speaker 1: All Right, all right, all right.

1:43:34 Speaker 3: All right, all right right.

1:43:35 Speaker 1: I'm not going to let you see what I said

1:43:37 Speaker 1: after that. That's part is private. But essentially what he

1:43:42 Speaker 1: is saying, and he raises a very very good point,

1:43:47 Speaker 1: and I think I missed it that part of it.

1:43:50 Speaker 1: But what he says in the beginning is because I

1:43:54 Speaker 1: asked him, I go, all right, hey, remember when we

1:43:56 Speaker 1: had those shootdowns like of the Chinese by balloon and

1:44:00 Speaker 1: like the UN that all those things. I was like,

1:44:03 Speaker 1: what missiles did they use because those were air to air,

1:44:06 Speaker 1: and he goes, yes, they use sidewinder missiles, and we

1:44:11 Speaker 1: have a clip of them shooting. They actually missed the

1:44:15 Speaker 1: first time, and then they hit the Chinese Spie balloon

1:44:19 Speaker 1: the second time with a sidewinder. And if this was

1:44:24 Speaker 1: a real scenario and a real defense of their craft,

1:44:28 Speaker 1: they would not have been using a hellfire missile, which

1:44:31 Speaker 1: is an air to ground. So you know that that's

1:44:35 Speaker 1: meant for like, you know, if you want to take

1:44:38 Speaker 1: out a bridge, you know, and if you're at warring

1:44:42 Speaker 1: and you need to take out a bridge or a

1:44:45 Speaker 1: complex or a target, a target that isn't really moving right,

1:44:52 Speaker 1: It's that's not what that missile is designed for. It's

1:44:56 Speaker 1: it's designed more or less for air to ground, where

1:45:03 Speaker 1: the sidewinder is air to air. So again, if this

1:45:08 Speaker 1: was a real scenario of defensive measures, then they would

1:45:13 Speaker 1: not be taking a chance by using a hellfire missile.

1:45:17 Speaker 1: And you see it bounce right off.

1:45:19 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna push back on that notion that that

1:45:23 Speaker 3: is not a thing. So when you brought this up

1:45:26 Speaker 3: to me last night, I sat there and thought, that's

1:45:31 Speaker 3: actually a very good point. Why are they using an

1:45:33 Speaker 3: air to ground missile to strike something in the air.

1:45:36 Speaker 3: Is this something that has happened before? And the answer

1:45:40 Speaker 3: is yes, it's happened three times in twenty six years.

1:45:44 Speaker 3: Two times was Israel. And we're going to take a look.

1:45:48 Speaker 3: So where is it? Which So here is an article

1:45:53 Speaker 3: from May of two thousand and one, So Israel shut

1:46:00 Speaker 3: down a Lebanese civilian plane, a Cessna one fifty two,

1:46:05 Speaker 3: for flying towards Israel. Bear in mind this was this

1:46:09 Speaker 3: is pre nine eleven, so that's that's an interesting thing

1:46:11 Speaker 3: to note. This is pre nine eleven. Israel shot down

1:46:14 Speaker 3: a plane for entering into restricted airspace. They used a

1:46:19 Speaker 3: health fire missile to do this, which is is is

1:46:25 Speaker 3: It's interesting and it could just be a you know,

1:46:29 Speaker 3: that's what they had on on what you know, on

1:46:31 Speaker 3: the on the jet or the helicopter. I think it's

1:46:33 Speaker 3: a helicopter. But it proves that you can you can

1:46:38 Speaker 3: laser designate this a stense of being an underground missile,

1:46:42 Speaker 3: and you can laser designate and hit something in the air.

1:46:45 Speaker 3: So I continued looking and I found one other instance

1:46:48 Speaker 3: of it happening and that we actually we have the video.

1:46:52 Speaker 3: We have the video of it. I actually have. We

1:46:56 Speaker 3: have we have video of a health fire missile being

1:46:59 Speaker 3: fired at a drug so moving. You need to unmute yourself.

1:47:15 Speaker 1: Oh I wasn't talking.

1:47:17 Speaker 3: Oh it cut you off midsense.

1:47:23 Speaker 1: Speaking. Wow, detonates. Sorry, but you see how how on

1:47:33 Speaker 1: impact it detonates immediately.

1:47:36 Speaker 3: Well, this is what I'm going to get to you.

1:47:39 Speaker 3: So that's striking something hot. Whereas I I from what

1:47:46 Speaker 3: I what I think the so what I think.

1:47:49 Speaker 1: That that was just what we just watched that last

1:47:54 Speaker 1: scenario that was air to ground.

1:47:59 Speaker 3: With this it keeps muting every time I play the video.

1:48:06 Speaker 1: The last thing that it showed looked like it was.

1:48:10 Speaker 1: So this right here is very much air to air.

1:48:14 Speaker 1: These these these these are very much so you have

1:48:19 Speaker 1: permission to gauge the target. Look at that fucking explosion.

1:48:25 Speaker 3: So and then you see it. You see all the

1:48:27 Speaker 3: debris falling down, You see the draining banking away.

1:48:31 Speaker 1: So another air air to air. This is air to

1:48:34 Speaker 1: ground though.

1:48:37 Speaker 3: Right here, I'm guessing that I mean that was that.

1:48:51 Speaker 1: It's a good visual to see what.

1:48:53 Speaker 3: Again, what an antaground strike looks like russoks like, yes,

1:48:57 Speaker 3: And I found that very interesting that, like, it is

1:49:02 Speaker 3: interesting that they used a health fire missile to destroy

1:49:07 Speaker 3: or attempt to destroy whatever this thing is in the

1:49:09 Speaker 3: video from Congress.

1:49:10 Speaker 1: And I want to preface all of this. Everyone knows

1:49:14 Speaker 1: that Burleson is a good friend of mine. I am

1:49:20 Speaker 1: not here to say that he's trying to show us

1:49:26 Speaker 1: things that aren't true. I'm saying that I think that

1:49:30 Speaker 1: that these videos are being brought to.

1:49:33 Speaker 3: Them and political purpose.

1:49:37 Speaker 1: Yes, so I am a huge fan of Burleson and

1:49:40 Speaker 1: what he's doing. I really am. He's a great guy.

1:49:43 Speaker 1: Do I think that dog do I think the hearing

1:49:45 Speaker 1: was a dog and pony show like Greg does. No.

1:49:49 Speaker 1: I think Greg's a little salty. If I'm being honest,

1:49:52 Speaker 1: I think he's salty that he didn't get called to testify.

1:49:54 Speaker 1: But I mean that's not neither here nor there. And

1:49:59 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm I will say these kind of

1:50:01 Speaker 1: things about and Greg's like a family to me and

1:50:05 Speaker 1: I and.

1:50:05 Speaker 3: That's what I Then it's like, what are we doing right?

1:50:08 Speaker 3: You have to play the politic game or I don't

1:50:10 Speaker 3: want to offend this person in this person.

1:50:12 Speaker 1: But he does say this, He does say this about

1:50:15 Speaker 1: this on this video that we're about to watch the

1:50:17 Speaker 1: congressional video. He said that again. And even if so if,

1:50:23 Speaker 1: even if it is a hellfire missile and it's being

1:50:25 Speaker 1: shot air to air, it doesn't impact. I mean it doesn't.

1:50:30 Speaker 1: There's no kinetic engagement with like there's no explosion, and

1:50:35 Speaker 1: that is not indicative of a hellfire missile and what

1:50:38 Speaker 1: it does. So this is needing him to believe that

1:50:41 Speaker 1: this was a test of some sort that they did

1:50:45 Speaker 1: not actually put a charge inside of it, because on

1:50:49 Speaker 1: impact it should have detonated if it was a hell

1:50:53 Speaker 1: fire what.

1:50:54 Speaker 3: It depends what it's hitting. So this is this is

1:50:56 Speaker 3: where it gets into how does a hellfire missile does

1:50:59 Speaker 3: a NAT's target and know what it's aiming for and

1:51:03 Speaker 3: it's primarily a laser target. Now I'm going to pose

1:51:07 Speaker 3: this question all the people that think that this missile

1:51:09 Speaker 3: was fired at some kind of UAP ORB anomalous thing,

1:51:14 Speaker 3: tell me how an orb How you can get a

1:51:18 Speaker 3: laser designation off of something that is not reflecting in

1:51:23 Speaker 3: a way that's normal, That doesn't you know, it's not

1:51:26 Speaker 3: a reflective surface. It generally this and this gets into

1:51:30 Speaker 3: what I was saying earlier about like what we think

1:51:32 Speaker 3: of as an orb and what's a light? Now you're muted, So.

1:51:38 Speaker 1: I said, oh, that's why you brought that up. Yeah,

1:51:41 Speaker 1: what is an orb?

1:51:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's.

1:51:44 Speaker 1: So that that does raise a good question.

1:51:46 Speaker 3: So how if they are able to laser designate a

1:51:50 Speaker 3: hell fire missile onto this object, then it is definitely

1:51:53 Speaker 3: man made because you need a reflective surface to be

1:51:56 Speaker 3: and something that's actually in a way that isn't bending.

1:52:01 Speaker 3: You know, it's not like a torsion field. It's not

1:52:02 Speaker 3: like some kind of em drive that's going to bend

1:52:05 Speaker 3: the laser designate.

1:52:07 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna yeah, but I'm gonna disagree with you

1:52:11 Speaker 1: because let's say that these crafts can become physical.

1:52:19 Speaker 3: That that but not reflected in the visual that we

1:52:23 Speaker 3: have instead of it just looking like an amorphous block like,

1:52:28 Speaker 3: because the way it looks is it is it. It

1:52:31 Speaker 3: changes shape upon impact and kind of rolls away. Now,

1:52:35 Speaker 3: if that's some kind of anomalous em bubble or something,

1:52:38 Speaker 3: you can't get a laser designate of that. So my question,

1:52:41 Speaker 3: my personal theory is that it was a balloon, a

1:52:45 Speaker 3: ray kind of like the Chinese Yukon balloon. Probably a

1:52:49 Speaker 3: different kind of setup. But the reason it doesn't detonate

1:52:52 Speaker 3: is because it's literally it's ripping through a canvas. It's

1:52:56 Speaker 3: going so fast that it doesn't even it doesn't even

1:52:59 Speaker 3: like know it's impacted something because it's like can thin

1:53:04 Speaker 3: canvas traveler is traveling so fast, and then you've got

1:53:10 Speaker 3: the parallax, so that here's the other thing. The reason

1:53:13 Speaker 3: it looks like it's moving is parallax from the drone.

1:53:18 Speaker 3: So like as the drone is flying and it's moving,

1:53:21 Speaker 3: it's banking around this object that's now falling. The parallax

1:53:26 Speaker 3: between the camera and the falling motion of whatever this

1:53:28 Speaker 3: thing that just got hit the missile makes it look

1:53:31 Speaker 3: like it's translating forward, but it's not. It's just it

1:53:34 Speaker 3: might be forward, but I think it's it's more of

1:53:37 Speaker 3: a parallax issue and that the missile just went straight

1:53:41 Speaker 3: through the balloon, because you even see the missile kind

1:53:43 Speaker 3: of changes directory directions slightly after coming out of the

1:53:48 Speaker 3: other side of the balloon, like it's kind of off

1:53:50 Speaker 3: to the side, And I'm thinking, oh, is that just

1:53:53 Speaker 3: is that just an effect of like impacting this canvas

1:53:57 Speaker 3: where the warhead's not having enough pressure on the air

1:54:00 Speaker 3: like it's hit a hard surface to detonate, Like is

1:54:03 Speaker 3: this missile program to detonate upon reaching like a zero

1:54:09 Speaker 3: point on the laser designate or on is it like

1:54:13 Speaker 3: something that's impact based on the actual cone of the missile.

1:54:17 Speaker 3: So it hit something physical to explode.

1:54:20 Speaker 1: Okay, well, actually I think we.

1:54:22 Speaker 3: Have enough information about that to know. Like and like

1:54:25 Speaker 3: doctor Rogers said, it could have been a non explosive

1:54:28 Speaker 3: warhead and that could be why it didn't explode, but

1:54:30 Speaker 3: it definitely hit a balloon in my opinion.

1:54:35 Speaker 1: Donni raises a good point here. So he Corbell in

1:54:40 Speaker 1: a Weaponized episode made the comment that he has seen it.

1:54:45 Speaker 1: And again, you know if this is you know, if

1:54:49 Speaker 1: you are believe, if you believe what Corbell is saying.

1:54:52 Speaker 1: And now I think Map said he also saw it.

1:54:55 Speaker 1: That there's five more minutes of this orb or whatever

1:55:00 Speaker 1: what this target, let's just call it. This target continues

1:55:05 Speaker 1: flying for like five more minutes and does not go

1:55:08 Speaker 1: into the ocean like we're being told by some of

1:55:11 Speaker 1: the debunkers like Mick West and you know, even Greg

1:55:15 Speaker 1: for that matter. And so what do you say to that?

1:55:19 Speaker 1: Do you just say that speculation?

1:55:21 Speaker 3: Show it, show it to me, like I am not

1:55:24 Speaker 3: going to blindly trust these people primarily because of the

1:55:29 Speaker 3: because of the support of bobblers up. If if I'm

1:55:32 Speaker 3: going to be brutally honest, it's because of the propping

1:55:35 Speaker 3: up of Bobblazar in terms of making that the Bobblazar

1:55:39 Speaker 3: documentary that Corbell made it willfully ignored a lot of

1:55:44 Speaker 3: problems in Bob's story and only propped up the proof,

1:55:48 Speaker 3: but then ignored all of the actual other stuff that

1:55:50 Speaker 3: makes it questionable, like Stanton Friedman that the was the pimp,

1:55:56 Speaker 3: the pimping execution and stuff. So it by ignoring those things, Uh,

1:56:05 Speaker 3: it's created a massive area of doubt for me with

1:56:08 Speaker 3: these people. And you know, I've met I've met them,

1:56:11 Speaker 3: I've met Jeremy, I've met George, not like deeply. I

1:56:14 Speaker 3: met them at Contact in the desert. It was very fleeting.

1:56:17 Speaker 3: But yeah, they strike They strike me as people who

1:56:23 Speaker 3: this is their career. They've decided to build somewhat of

1:56:28 Speaker 3: a mythology around the stories that they're covering to create

1:56:31 Speaker 3: prestige for themselves, and that's how they get into Congress

1:56:34 Speaker 3: to testify and all this stuff, because they've created a

1:56:36 Speaker 3: prestige for themselves.

1:56:38 Speaker 1: But oh, God, there's so much I want to say

1:56:41 Speaker 1: that I don't.

1:56:43 Speaker 3: I know, the feeling like I could go on a

1:56:45 Speaker 3: I could go on a spicy rant. I'm not going to.

1:56:49 Speaker 3: It's okay, but I think we can agree that wilfully

1:56:54 Speaker 3: ignoring negative aspects of Bobb Lazar's story has harmed Corbelle

1:57:00 Speaker 3: in the long run.

1:57:01 Speaker 1: All right, well, what do you think about the fact

1:57:04 Speaker 1: that bizarre Okay, I'm I and I'm genuinely asking this bizarre.

1:57:15 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not He hasn't written a book. He

1:57:18 Speaker 1: hasn't done that things like other people in UFO world

1:57:22 Speaker 1: that they always do, there's always a book. I mean,

1:57:27 Speaker 1: he hasn't even really, I.

1:57:29 Speaker 3: Mean, isn't like there was a there was ant a

1:57:33 Speaker 3: biography that came out that he was like heavily involved

1:57:35 Speaker 3: in that came from the publishing company.

1:57:37 Speaker 1: Right, he has not made money, apparently according to him

1:57:43 Speaker 1: and according to a lot of people. Now, well, I mean,

1:57:47 Speaker 1: I mean.

1:57:48 Speaker 3: Very mind is this is a guy that in nineteen

1:57:50 Speaker 3: ninety six was supposed to interview with Nippon TV and

1:57:52 Speaker 3: he absolutely was so weird to them and then ghosted them.

1:57:56 Speaker 3: So like he has a pattern for a long time

1:57:58 Speaker 3: of having he is a weird guy, and that is

1:58:02 Speaker 3: the fact that he's a weird guy. I don't think

1:58:04 Speaker 3: we should be holding him to the standard of like,

1:58:07 Speaker 3: oh like of like a normal person in this situation

1:58:11 Speaker 3: because he is demonstratably very weird and he also put

1:58:17 Speaker 3: he is a very smart dude.

1:58:18 Speaker 1: But he can also put jets on a car, and

1:58:22 Speaker 1: he can also do these things.

1:58:24 Speaker 3: A car is not a UFO witness make you.

1:58:27 Speaker 1: Know, okay, but this is you don't now hear me

1:58:30 Speaker 1: out on this again. This is I like wherever I listen.

1:58:35 Speaker 1: I like that we disagree, me too.

1:58:37 Speaker 3: I mean I frequal dialogue, and I like that the

1:58:39 Speaker 3: people get to see us have this kind of dialogue.

1:58:42 Speaker 1: Do I believe one hundred percent that Boblezar is and

1:58:46 Speaker 1: did everything he said he does or had did has done. No.

1:58:51 Speaker 1: I do not. However, you don't think that there is

1:58:56 Speaker 1: any or or you don't think that you don't This

1:59:01 Speaker 1: is the perfect guy. This is a guy if if

1:59:05 Speaker 1: you need it to discredit him, right, and you needed

1:59:10 Speaker 1: him to to to you needed someone who thought outside

1:59:14 Speaker 1: of the normal box, right, and you also needed him

1:59:19 Speaker 1: to be kind of like all right, just in case

1:59:21 Speaker 1: we need to be able to throw this guy under

1:59:23 Speaker 1: the bus, because he's only gonna be here temporarily. We

1:59:27 Speaker 1: just need him to do this one thing, to crack

1:59:29 Speaker 1: this one little piece, and then you know, we'll go

1:59:32 Speaker 1: on like we don't know the whole story. And I

1:59:35 Speaker 1: think it's very plausible that after his article in after

1:59:41 Speaker 1: the article in that Sandy Nash or or whatever, that

1:59:45 Speaker 1: that story is. I can't quote it verbatim, but he's

1:59:48 Speaker 1: on the front page, you know, and he and he

1:59:50 Speaker 1: builds a jet car and also yeah, yeah, those alamos

1:59:57 Speaker 1: and that he was in fact, Now he might not.

2:00:00 Speaker 1: Maybe he did embellish his his school history. Maybe he did, right,

2:00:08 Speaker 1: but I don't think that that is also indicted. But yeah,

2:00:13 Speaker 1: I could go on.

2:00:16 Speaker 3: To give balance to the other side. The one thing

2:00:18 Speaker 3: with bobb Leazar's story this always kept me, giving me

2:00:22 Speaker 3: like one percent space in my brain that he knew

2:00:26 Speaker 3: something is the fact he was able to take ye,

2:00:31 Speaker 3: take gene Haaf from people out into the desert and

2:00:35 Speaker 3: know when these test flights are going to take place

2:00:38 Speaker 3: and then and film them. That is interesting, like it is,

2:00:43 Speaker 3: but it's not impossible that someone could have told him.

2:00:48 Speaker 3: It's not impossible that this information could have come from

2:00:51 Speaker 3: somewhere else, and he's, oh, guys, yeah, I mean it

2:00:54 Speaker 3: could have come from John let It could mean he

2:00:56 Speaker 3: could have found out like what the flight times for

2:01:00 Speaker 3: Gianet Airlines work, and then extrapolated out that, oh there's

2:01:03 Speaker 3: a gap in the flights. Maybe they're doing test flights

2:01:05 Speaker 3: at that time, and then he goes out sees it

2:01:08 Speaker 3: and then goes hey, Bob, and then Bob tears, Oh,

2:01:11 Speaker 3: you know, I'll take people out there. There is there's

2:01:14 Speaker 3: a lot that we don't know.

2:01:16 Speaker 1: There is. There is a guy that does say that

2:01:21 Speaker 1: he saw Bob on the Janet air Airline flights. In however,

2:01:27 Speaker 1: I think it could be that there's a lot of

2:01:30 Speaker 1: room and and and there. I mean, memory is fallible,

2:01:34 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely not perfect. So you know, could he

2:01:37 Speaker 1: could it have been look because Bob does kind of

2:01:40 Speaker 1: look like not not classic science, but you know the

2:01:44 Speaker 1: big glasses. They could that looked like him. Maybe, But

2:01:52 Speaker 1: there are I mean there there or it could be

2:01:54 Speaker 1: someone like the Cordy Good situation where they're they're trying

2:01:58 Speaker 1: to get in on the lie too right in situation.

2:02:03 Speaker 3: Was actually on Janet flights or is this someone just

2:02:06 Speaker 3: saying this.

2:02:08 Speaker 1: Was confirmed.

2:02:10 Speaker 3: This was a bona fide employee of the d O

2:02:14 Speaker 3: D or a gen G like who did they work for?

2:02:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, something, It was one of the two that was

2:02:19 Speaker 1: he was a contractor, former military you know, uh, and

2:02:25 Speaker 1: and was verified to some degree. You know, we'll put

2:02:29 Speaker 1: a pin in this one.

2:02:30 Speaker 3: Put this one. It's one of those timeless stories that

2:02:34 Speaker 3: you can always come back to and have a discussion

2:02:37 Speaker 3: about because there's a lot of facets that are just fascinating.

2:02:40 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, No, And I find there's a movie coming

2:02:43 Speaker 1: out called S four The Bobbles Our Story, And I

2:02:48 Speaker 1: got to meet the director at Contact and like they

2:02:52 Speaker 1: were putting us they they they recreated like the hangar

2:02:56 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I mean it's pretty remarkable. So I

2:03:00 Speaker 1: have a feeling that Bob's are that story is we'll

2:03:04 Speaker 1: be talking about it will.

2:03:05 Speaker 3: Be coming back. He's a little side side note. I

2:03:08 Speaker 3: know we're over two hours now, so we need to

2:03:10 Speaker 3: wrap up soon. But there's a side note that there

2:03:12 Speaker 3: was a famous director at that recent Congress hearing called

2:03:15 Speaker 3: Colin Trevoro. You may know him from doing that, you

2:03:19 Speaker 3: know Colin so so yeah, if you actually look, he's

2:03:24 Speaker 3: actually he's sat behind them. He is working on a

2:03:27 Speaker 3: Bobble's art movie right now, and he.

2:03:29 Speaker 1: Was, Oh, that's right, Oh my god, that's right.

2:03:38 Speaker 3: Pretty cool. Interesting, interesting, Bob is our story is not

2:03:44 Speaker 3: going away. I think that I'm hoping now, you know,

2:03:49 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put this out into the universe. I'm hoping

2:03:52 Speaker 3: that Colin Trevoro represents the story honestly. In Bob's relationships

2:03:58 Speaker 3: with his ex wife wife being the murder case and

2:04:02 Speaker 3: the pimp charge, there is a very weird all. All

2:04:05 Speaker 3: of these things need to be told truthfully in a

2:04:08 Speaker 3: story about his life. If you ignore them, then you

2:04:10 Speaker 3: are doing the same disservice to yourself that Jeremy Corbell

2:04:14 Speaker 3: did to his career by ignoring this stuff. And I

2:04:17 Speaker 3: know Jeremy Corbell is gonna sit there and go, well,

2:04:18 Speaker 3: I don't care. I've got this this real estate stuff,

2:04:21 Speaker 3: and I got all the documentary money and the next

2:04:23 Speaker 3: time money. Well, in in terms of credibility, it's kind

2:04:28 Speaker 3: of shocked because he won't engage on these issues.

2:04:31 Speaker 1: So WHOA, all right, optics here, let's let's spin this

2:04:38 Speaker 1: Corbell That movie gets him on Rogan's radar. Not to

2:04:43 Speaker 1: mention that he did the MMA and like him and

2:04:47 Speaker 1: his wife had this. So I've looked into Corbell hard

2:04:50 Speaker 1: and I've had my issues with Corbell.

2:04:52 Speaker 3: The quantum jiu jitsu, quantum.

2:04:54 Speaker 1: Jiu jitsu that he was doing and all that, and

2:04:56 Speaker 1: it's almost like the Coltart story where he kind of

2:05:03 Speaker 1: finds himself without a job and without a direction and

2:05:08 Speaker 1: it seems like, you know that the UFO all of

2:05:12 Speaker 1: a sudden, Then Corbell picked up a camera and spent

2:05:15 Speaker 1: a month with John Lear, of all people, and then

2:05:20 Speaker 1: was introduced to Bob Bazaar and then made the movie

2:05:24 Speaker 1: with Bob Bazaar. So he actually got his introduction to

2:05:29 Speaker 1: the topic was because he got a camera and then

2:05:32 Speaker 1: went to John Lear, whose dad created the Lear Jet,

2:05:36 Speaker 1: and you know John flew for the CIA, and you know,

2:05:42 Speaker 1: was very very smart.

2:05:44 Speaker 3: He used his own tagline. He he but now he's

2:05:48 Speaker 3: also his career and said, I'm going to take my

2:05:52 Speaker 3: curiosity and I'm going to weaponize it.

2:05:55 Speaker 1: Yes, that's for being And.

2:05:57 Speaker 3: That's literally, like he tells you at the beginning of every.

2:06:00 Speaker 1: Movie, what's that's why his show is weaponized? Yes, that's

2:06:05 Speaker 1: literally that's like there, that's like there is.

2:06:09 Speaker 3: How he literally got started was he was curious about

2:06:12 Speaker 3: this stuff, so we picked up a camera came I

2:06:17 Speaker 3: have no problem with that because like, that's that's how

2:06:19 Speaker 3: it works for a lot of people. That's why I

2:06:21 Speaker 3: started doing video editing, because I wanted to weaponize It's

2:06:26 Speaker 3: kind of like weaponized autism in a way, like you're

2:06:29 Speaker 3: weaponizing this special Maybe do you not get that reference? No? No,

2:06:37 Speaker 3: I get I get it. I mean next week I

2:06:39 Speaker 3: might turn up and I might be drooling everywhere because

2:06:41 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a little more.

2:06:41 Speaker 1: But my girlfriend was like, uh, when she says something

2:06:45 Speaker 1: actually pretty hilarious, She's like, hey, so, uh, you know

2:06:48 Speaker 1: I think tyan PM, So does that mean I'm just

2:06:51 Speaker 1: gonna be autistic at night? And I kissed myself dude,

2:06:56 Speaker 1: it was so bunny.

2:06:58 Speaker 3: So who do you think having a weird a week?

2:07:01 Speaker 3: Jimmy Kimmel or the CEO of Tayler.

2:07:04 Speaker 1: Yeah. I will say this just because it's not the

2:07:11 Speaker 1: topic list this week. So we are not going to

2:07:15 Speaker 1: pigeonholed ourselves and put it ourselves into a quarter with

2:07:18 Speaker 1: this show and only talk about UFOs and the paranormal.

2:07:21 Speaker 1: So expect you to have a range of topics.

2:07:25 Speaker 3: Yes, we are going to branch we thought for the

2:07:27 Speaker 3: first episode because it's it's primarily a UFO based show,

2:07:31 Speaker 3: we would start with a UFO episode, but we will

2:07:34 Speaker 3: be branching out. There's plenty of things to talk about.

2:07:36 Speaker 3: I can talk about my weather work, I can talk

2:07:38 Speaker 3: about secret space people, we can talk about science, and

2:07:41 Speaker 3: can talk about politics. Is a whole universe up there

2:07:44 Speaker 3: for us to talk about and disagree on.

2:07:45 Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, I want to.

2:07:48 Speaker 3: I want to take this moment to thank everybody for watching.

2:07:50 Speaker 3: I know we've gone. We've gone way longer than we

2:07:52 Speaker 3: and we plan to. So let's wrap this up cohesively.

2:07:59 Speaker 3: Where can people mine?

2:08:00 Speaker 6: Is you?

2:08:00 Speaker 3: Tyler?

2:08:01 Speaker 1: Wait, we're gonna watch that hellfire missile we did?

2:08:07 Speaker 4: Oh?

2:08:07 Speaker 1: Can you show it to me one more time?

2:08:09 Speaker 3: I'll show you one more time.

2:08:11 Speaker 1: All right, let's see it.

2:08:14 Speaker 3: Muted you again because I started playing a video.

2:08:18 Speaker 1: The congressional one.

2:08:19 Speaker 3: Oh, the congressional one.

2:08:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, we never actually all right, So here it is, guys.

2:08:24 Speaker 1: So this is the.

2:08:27 Speaker 3: I played it. I played it while Dr Rogers was talking.

2:08:30 Speaker 1: Oh that's why I didn't see it. Well, So what

2:08:34 Speaker 1: I want you to pause it at a moment.

2:08:37 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if there is a pause thing on

2:08:39 Speaker 3: an uploaded video, Yeah there is, boom.

2:08:42 Speaker 1: What are those three things, those three things tailing behind

2:08:50 Speaker 1: it that I don't know if you saw Marion Vaughan,

2:08:53 Speaker 1: Renning Camps.

2:08:55 Speaker 3: Mark Marek Vaughn.

2:08:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, I always mess his name up. Apologize.

2:09:01 Speaker 1: He's actually coming on the show soon as a podcast guest,

2:09:05 Speaker 1: and so he when you do a close up the

2:09:09 Speaker 1: three things that broke off of it, they they are

2:09:13 Speaker 1: the exact same shape as the object, just smaller, and

2:09:17 Speaker 1: each one you could essentially overlay on each other and

2:09:20 Speaker 1: they're the same size, same dimension. So I will say

2:09:24 Speaker 1: that is a little weird. But you know, again, is

2:09:28 Speaker 1: it is it out of the realm of possibilities that

2:09:31 Speaker 1: it's totally prosaic? I don't. I would say again.

2:09:35 Speaker 3: I think it's part of the bracket. So you've got

2:09:39 Speaker 3: the balloon and you've got the cables coming down to

2:09:42 Speaker 3: whatever the array is, like the sensor array or whatever,

2:09:45 Speaker 3: and then at the end of the wires you've got

2:09:48 Speaker 3: a bunch of brackets and stuff that connect it. I mean,

2:09:51 Speaker 3: I'm I'm assuming here, but like this is what feels

2:09:55 Speaker 3: logical to me is that you the missile impacts the loon,

2:10:01 Speaker 3: balloon starts falling, cables are trailing behind it with parts

2:10:06 Speaker 3: of the array flapping behind it. Fair enough, fair enough,

2:10:13 Speaker 3: because I think the kinetic energy of that missile hitting

2:10:16 Speaker 3: the balloon, I think would probably share the cables off

2:10:19 Speaker 3: of whatever the sensor arrays. So that's that's just my

2:10:23 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm open to being wrong. I'm open to

2:10:25 Speaker 3: being proved wrong on that, but that's logically what makes

2:10:28 Speaker 3: sense in my head.

2:10:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I also want to I want to say

2:10:33 Speaker 1: this if if you have a topic that you'd like

2:10:38 Speaker 1: us to cover next Thursday or Thursday after that, or

2:10:43 Speaker 1: or in any show, email me uh at my email

2:10:48 Speaker 1: is in the description if you want to share your email,

2:10:53 Speaker 1: but if you want to eventually want to work it out. So,

2:10:58 Speaker 1: if you guys want to submit a topic you think

2:11:00 Speaker 1: that would be.

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2:11:04 Speaker 1: In the comments, but give us a give us a

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2:11:16 Speaker 1: topic if it fits. You know what we're doing, and

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2:11:39 Speaker 5: Uh.

2:11:39 Speaker 1: Tonight was our inaugural episode. I it went really well.

2:11:43 Speaker 1: I had a fun time. I can't wait to keep

2:11:45 Speaker 1: doing this again. I did. I did stream on X tonight.

2:11:50 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna be doing that regularly. It'll

2:11:52 Speaker 1: be YouTube and rumble, but I do want to, you know,

2:11:57 Speaker 1: introduce people to the show. So we'll be here every

2:12:00 Speaker 1: single Thursday, every single Thursday, heads forth. Yeah, I'm here, baby,

2:12:06 Speaker 1: I'm here. I bought the studio for a reason. Man,

2:12:09 Speaker 1: we got to start, you know, I gotta start doing

2:12:12 Speaker 1: something with it. So, I mean we do. We're doing

2:12:15 Speaker 1: great stuff. Other other stuff too with the podcast.

2:12:20 Speaker 3: Exciting interviews coming up if you're watching, we do just

2:12:24 Speaker 3: we released yesterday and edit with Dr Greg Rogers, next

2:12:29 Speaker 3: NASA Chief of Medical.

2:12:32 Speaker 1: Chief of Aerospace Medicine, and he was a chief sturgeon

2:12:36 Speaker 1: for the US Air Force.

2:12:38 Speaker 3: So I highly advise you go check that out. I did. Uh.

2:12:41 Speaker 3: I did some pretty cool editing. Uh so that you

2:12:46 Speaker 3: remember the pictures of Roswell. Yeah, now it's a video

2:12:51 Speaker 3: what oh oh yeah that was that was.

2:12:55 Speaker 1: The Immersive Scouts. When you first showed that to me,

2:12:59 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, you can't you here? So for

2:13:02 Speaker 1: anyone who hasn't seen it, go watch that video. There's

2:13:08 Speaker 1: a cutaway that you that Carrie put in there where

2:13:11 Speaker 1: he kind of brings the the what's his name by

2:13:18 Speaker 1: my blanking mac No, no, no, not Mac Brazil uh

2:13:24 Speaker 1: uh yeah, Major Jesse Marcel, who is part of the

2:13:29 Speaker 1: five and ninth uh atomic only the only atomic squadron

2:13:34 Speaker 1: in the world at the time happens to be in

2:13:38 Speaker 1: the place where it's supposed to do a foe crash

2:13:40 Speaker 1: or allegedly crashed. I do again. I'm a big proponent

2:13:45 Speaker 1: of that nuclear that nuclear connection.

2:13:47 Speaker 5: Baby.

2:13:49 Speaker 1: Yeah. That picture when that guy I kind of brought

2:13:53 Speaker 1: to life. I mean technology is truly crazy. Uh you

2:13:56 Speaker 1: can find me Yeah, you could find me hiding in

2:14:01 Speaker 1: the corner pretty soon at some of these videos because

2:14:06 Speaker 1: you know what really scary and and maybe we should

2:14:09 Speaker 1: bring a we should talk about AI sometime soon because

2:14:13 Speaker 1: I mean lockeyed, right, they just unveiled their their their

2:14:18 Speaker 1: newest thing. It's unmanned and they're I mean, dude, pilots

2:14:23 Speaker 1: are going to get phased out soon.

2:14:25 Speaker 3: Right, just like just like the driver that was That

2:14:28 Speaker 3: was the story that got cut from this week, and

2:14:30 Speaker 3: it did get cut this week. It's number one on

2:14:33 Speaker 3: the sheet the next week. I want to dig in

2:14:35 Speaker 3: a little deeper and find out about this. It is

2:14:37 Speaker 3: called the vectus vectis drone. Yes, yeah, so I want

2:14:42 Speaker 3: to dig in a little deeper onto like the what

2:14:45 Speaker 3: information is available about the development of it, And there's

2:14:48 Speaker 3: probably not a lot because it skunk works.

2:14:50 Speaker 1: But here's the here's the thing.

2:14:54 Speaker 5: You know.

2:14:56 Speaker 1: Again, don't Borland actually said it in the Weaponized Interview,

2:15:00 Speaker 1: like the drone program had the most suicides because it's

2:15:03 Speaker 1: like you're you're with a controller, right, and like you're

2:15:08 Speaker 1: flying these and the reaper drones and you're just you know,

2:15:13 Speaker 1: you get the authorization to engage kinetically, and you know,

2:15:18 Speaker 1: you know that you told them that there are civilians there,

2:15:23 Speaker 1: and there is such thing as an acceptable civilian casualty rate.

2:15:30 Speaker 1: As fucking terrible as that sounds, that is the way

2:15:33 Speaker 1: our military industrial complex and operates for quote unquote national security.

2:15:40 Speaker 1: You know, there is a casualty rate that they are

2:15:42 Speaker 1: willing to accept in order to subdue the bad guy.

2:15:48 Speaker 1: And when you pull that trigger as a drone operator,

2:15:51 Speaker 1: like I mean, it's it's different than like your in

2:15:56 Speaker 1: combat and that guy shooting at you and you're at

2:16:00 Speaker 1: him and it's either you or him, right in this case, Yes,

2:16:06 Speaker 1: And there is a large problem with AI and what

2:16:10 Speaker 1: it's going to do to us. It is going to

2:16:13 Speaker 1: dehumanize these kinds of things. And you know, now this

2:16:18 Speaker 1: ties into the Jimmy Kimmel thing and the Charlie Kirk

2:16:21 Speaker 1: thing and every goddamn shooting that continues to riddle the

2:16:26 Speaker 1: United States. It is beyond me that we have become

2:16:33 Speaker 1: so normalized to people walking into schools, churches, and other gatherings.

2:16:41 Speaker 1: I will not go. I will never ever go to

2:16:46 Speaker 1: another New Year's ball drop event. I will never go

2:16:51 Speaker 1: to another open field like celebration. I just do not

2:16:57 Speaker 1: feel comfortable in crowds these days. We are becoming so

2:17:02 Speaker 1: so divided by the media, and it is sickening what

2:17:07 Speaker 1: is happening When Jimmy Kimmel becomes the picture of free speech.

2:17:12 Speaker 1: We have a fucking problem. We have a fucking problem.

2:17:19 Speaker 3: For Tiler twenty eight, Yeah, well, I think you know,

2:17:23 Speaker 3: I am going to be able to voice some of

2:17:25 Speaker 3: my concerns here and I am going to like this.

2:17:31 Speaker 1: Charlie kirk on everything. Absolutely not, but we'll get We'll

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2:18:27 Speaker 1: fun stuff coming up. We just dropped down episode doctor

2:18:29 Speaker 1: Greg Rogers, the NASA Chief of Airspace Medicine, who was

2:18:35 Speaker 1: shown a UFO in a hangar somewhere keep at least

2:18:40 Speaker 1: in the vicinity of Cape Canaveral or whatever in ninety

2:18:46 Speaker 1: ninety two, a year before I was born, actually, which

2:18:48 Speaker 1: is weird. And that's also the year Sallas came out. Anyway, No,

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2:19:00 Speaker 3: Agree to disagree?

2:19:02 Speaker 1: Would you be disagree? Fat? Okay? Yeah, my name's ty Robberts.

2:19:10 Speaker 1: Baby's Carrie. Where can they find you?

2:19:13 Speaker 3: But you can find me on the internet. You can

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2:19:27 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go check out True Seekers.

2:19:30 Speaker 3: And yeah, go check out Why So it's the The

2:19:34 Speaker 3: other show I work on is called truth Seekers. I've

2:19:36 Speaker 3: been a graphic artist and video editor for that show,

2:19:39 Speaker 3: and I guess the producer, like on and off, I

2:19:42 Speaker 3: don't produce all everything he does. I just want to

2:19:44 Speaker 3: make that abundantly clear to the internet. I don't control

2:19:48 Speaker 3: what Darcy says, does dunne, I don't control what Steven

2:19:55 Speaker 3: does anyway.

2:19:59 Speaker 1: Okay, So anyway, Gods.

2:20:02 Speaker 3: Thank you for watching. I'm gonna leave now, I'm just

2:20:05 Speaker 3: gonna leave.

2:20:06 Speaker 1: Put your head in the fucking bye. But pretend everyone

2:20:11 Speaker 1: didn't just hear that. No, I'm just kidding. He didn't

2:20:14 Speaker 1: mean it. He works with Darcy.

2:20:17 Speaker 3: On the brain.

2:20:18 Speaker 8: Yeah, like an idiot, just fools a pot half hours.

2:20:29 Speaker 8: My brain is fried, so.

2:20:31 Speaker 1: I know it's all. He's in the UK too, so

2:20:33 Speaker 1: it's like eleven thirty am two am. Oh god, he's

2:20:39 Speaker 1: doing me a very big fat yes. Thank you everyone.

2:20:43 Speaker 1: That was truly, truly, truly fun Again. We're gonna be

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2:20:56 Speaker 1: next time. Love you. Thet ever entertaining entity undergasting people.

2:21:35 Speaker 8: That's actual