POST ELECTION REPORT- The Pathway Forward For UFO Disclosure- With Ex DOD Intel Officerr.

0:04 Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome to Total Disclosure.

0:16 Speaker 2: My name's Tie, and we're back for a amazing, amazing

0:21 Speaker 2: show tonight. Guys, we're doing a kind of a post

0:25 Speaker 2: election deal. I figured I was going to do the

0:28 Speaker 2: show last night, but most people said that we wouldn't

0:32 Speaker 2: find out until probably after midnight, and going off of

0:37 Speaker 2: the last election, I figured there, right. It turns out

0:41 Speaker 2: that they didn't call the race. And again, we're doing

0:44 Speaker 2: a special live podcast of Total Disclosure tonight. So we

0:49 Speaker 2: witnessed kind of history in the making. As America steps

0:55 Speaker 2: into a new dot ja dump. Elected as the forty

0:58 Speaker 2: seventh President of the United States, the White House, the Senate,

1:02 Speaker 2: and the House will soon stand under one banner. And

1:07 Speaker 2: this is what the people of this great nation have

1:09 Speaker 2: chosen through their votes. Listen, whether we're filled with optimism, concern,

1:17 Speaker 2: or something in between, there's no denying that this is

1:21 Speaker 2: a time, and it has been coming for a while

1:24 Speaker 2: where we need unity as a country, as a world,

1:29 Speaker 2: this nation standing together instead of red or blue. As

1:33 Speaker 2: a human race, division is what the powers that we

1:37 Speaker 2: want distracted for fighting each other. Who won't be asking

1:41 Speaker 2: the right questions because we won't have time to we

1:45 Speaker 2: find ourselves in a world that feels more divided than ever.

1:48 Speaker 2: But this moment, right here and now, is an opportunity,

1:51 Speaker 2: a chance to come together despite our differences and focus

1:55 Speaker 2: on the common ground that binds us. America has always

1:58 Speaker 2: been strongest united, and today we need strength more than ever.

2:04 Speaker 2: We need to reach across the aisle, across ideologies, and

2:07 Speaker 2: across perspectives to build something bigger Boulder together. Tonight, I'm

2:15 Speaker 2: joined by former the IDEA official, uh, miss ANGELIEH. I

2:21 Speaker 2: brought it in pretty quickly there, not to to throw

2:24 Speaker 2: you off, but I'm super happy you could join me tonight.

2:27 Speaker 2: I wanted to bring somebody in who's kind of been

2:31 Speaker 2: in the world of DC and in that the machine

2:36 Speaker 2: that is the government. And uh, obviously, I don't think

2:42 Speaker 2: a lot of people were expecting the results to be

2:46 Speaker 2: just what they were.

2:49 Speaker 3: Oh they weren't.

2:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think that people

2:53 Speaker 2: were expecting such a landslide. But it seems that Trump, uh,

3:00 Speaker 2: to his credit, him and JD. Vance, they did do

3:06 Speaker 2: a lot of these podcasts like Rogan, like Sean Ryan,

3:10 Speaker 2: like you know, they really got into these three four

3:14 Speaker 2: hour conversations that allowed people to really like understand the policies,

3:19 Speaker 2: whereas Kamala, Yeah, she did the door knocking and she

3:22 Speaker 2: did her rallies, but it was all just I just

3:26 Speaker 2: think it was too little, too late.

3:30 Speaker 3: I would agree with that. And I think that that

3:37 Speaker 3: the American people in general are concerned about the economy.

3:42 Speaker 3: They're concerned about the price of food, the price of

3:47 Speaker 3: real estate, the fact that they can't afford not to

3:51 Speaker 3: have two jobs. There are a lot of really big

3:56 Speaker 3: issues that I think think people are looking for a

4:02 Speaker 3: significant change, specifically targeting that, and and and unfortunately, it

4:09 Speaker 3: seems that some have felt that Vice President Harris did

4:15 Speaker 3: not bring the enthusiasm for the right thing that was

4:20 Speaker 3: the biggest concern, because that's straight strikes right at that

4:24 Speaker 3: those basic needs in you know, in the in the

4:28 Speaker 3: hierarchy of needs pyramid, and and it strikes a chord

4:33 Speaker 3: for millions of Americans million too many, too many millions

4:38 Speaker 3: of Americans.

4:39 Speaker 2: So yeah, and and I and and and I don't

4:44 Speaker 2: when I I do. When I started toldal disclosure, I

4:46 Speaker 2: told myself I never pigeonholed myself to a subject. And

4:50 Speaker 2: obviously you know UFO's disclosure, And and that's my angle,

4:54 Speaker 2: you know, that's that's that'll be always be my main focus.

4:58 Speaker 2: But I mean, I think this election, you know, the

5:02 Speaker 2: last podcast I did before, well, the two podcasts ago

5:06 Speaker 2: I was with Tim Burchett and This Day and Age.

5:10 Speaker 2: I mean, you just can't get away from politics. And

5:13 Speaker 2: I mean we're we're at a place where people from

5:16 Speaker 2: both sides of the aisle I recognized the need for

5:19 Speaker 2: transparency as a desire to know whether we are in

5:23 Speaker 2: fact alone in the universe. And it's been mainly bipartisan.

5:28 Speaker 2: If only more issues could be like this, you know.

5:33 Speaker 2: I think that's what we should be working towards, is

5:37 Speaker 2: a more bipartisan approach. I just and the UAP topic

5:42 Speaker 2: can be an example that that really sets a precedent.

5:47 Speaker 2: There's hearings set on November thirteenth. I'll be I'll be going.

5:51 Speaker 2: I booked a ticket and I was invited down by

5:54 Speaker 2: mister Burchett, and I'm super excited. What do you think

6:01 Speaker 2: with the results of the election, what do you think

6:05 Speaker 2: the implications are going forward for UFO hearings the topic

6:11 Speaker 2: of U A P and UH non human intelligence.

6:17 Speaker 3: Well, I think that the chances just increased that he

6:26 Speaker 3: may be looser lipped even than he has been in

6:31 Speaker 3: the past. You know, the precedents has already been set

6:37 Speaker 3: that he will reveal and share with allies and allied

6:49 Speaker 3: interests alike, some very highly classified intelligence that includes names

6:55 Speaker 3: of US assets and sources and and methodologies. And so

7:06 Speaker 3: I think that there's likely to be two kinds of

7:10 Speaker 3: responses that I think that we can expect the intelligence

7:16 Speaker 3: community to be scrambling for exactly how they're going to

7:22 Speaker 3: deal with such a loose cannon and how they are

7:27 Speaker 3: going to craft his specific daily intelligence briefs to prevent

7:35 Speaker 3: him from ever being in a position where he could

7:39 Speaker 3: put in jeopardy an asset or a source or rite other.

7:45 Speaker 2: Things, right, and and and and I definitely understand that

7:51 Speaker 2: that that he is a very unconventional person. Uh he is, uh,

7:56 Speaker 2: you know, he's not. He said some things, He's done

8:00 Speaker 2: things I wouldn't you know, call him, I wouldn't call

8:04 Speaker 2: him a saint, right, But I what I want to

8:13 Speaker 2: see from this is instead of more in you know,

8:19 Speaker 2: throat grabbing, I think we can all finally understand that listen,

8:23 Speaker 2: four more years. Listen, he can't be president ever again,

8:27 Speaker 2: ever again. You know, So that's what's what is fundamentally

8:33 Speaker 2: great about this country is that in four years, voters

8:37 Speaker 2: will have another opportunity to either keep a Republican or

8:41 Speaker 2: choose a Democrat, whoever that may be at the time. God,

8:46 Speaker 2: I hope it's not Joe Biden. I don't know, just

8:49 Speaker 2: making a little joke. It won't be.

8:51 Speaker 3: But and we also we often overlook the power of

8:56 Speaker 3: and importance of the midterm elections that will be coming

9:00 Speaker 3: up in two years. That can sway many hearts and

9:04 Speaker 3: minds and highly affect local and state government and can

9:11 Speaker 3: have a pretty strong effect on who is representing you

9:15 Speaker 3: out in DC. So you know, we do. We have

9:19 Speaker 3: it set up that way for a purpose. So that's

9:24 Speaker 3: it's really a check on what we think of the administration.

9:28 Speaker 3: So if the American people who had just elected President

9:34 Speaker 3: Trump into the White House again began to lose faith

9:37 Speaker 3: in him, then we'll see a turnover in those people

9:42 Speaker 3: who are up in midterm elections and re election campaigns.

9:46 Speaker 3: So it's always a signal and and so we'll just

9:51 Speaker 3: have to wait a couple of years to see.

9:53 Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think I of course, disclosure is

10:02 Speaker 2: obviously a huge topic, right but it does definitely sit

10:10 Speaker 2: below what's going on in Russia, Ukraine, what's going on

10:15 Speaker 2: in the Middle East. So those things do need to

10:18 Speaker 2: be addressed. And and you know, in your experience, uh,

10:23 Speaker 2: Trump has said that, you know, he's gonna end it

10:25 Speaker 2: on day one. That is such an exaggeration, it's it's

10:29 Speaker 2: it's it's absurd to think about. But that again, that's

10:33 Speaker 2: like you kind of just got to understand that that's

10:35 Speaker 2: the guy he is. He's going to say that kind

10:36 Speaker 2: of stuff. You know, he's not a politician clearly, Uh,

10:41 Speaker 2: you're right, he does say things a little loosely. Do

10:46 Speaker 2: you think that? I mean, because I think if you

10:50 Speaker 2: think about it, we're we're one bad miscalculation away from

10:55 Speaker 2: something really bad happening.

10:57 Speaker 3: Something really bad is already happening, it's just not happening

11:00 Speaker 3: in the United States in a way that we recognize it.

11:03 Speaker 2: Yet, right, and we are a little bit sheltered in

11:06 Speaker 2: that sense.

11:07 Speaker 3: Absolutely.

11:08 Speaker 2: Even driving to the store today to pick up my medication,

11:13 Speaker 2: you know, it's a simple run for me and I'm

11:16 Speaker 2: listening to a podcast, you know, and it dawns on

11:23 Speaker 2: me because of what they're talking about that you know,

11:27 Speaker 2: I could be in Ukraine right now, and I could

11:31 Speaker 2: or I could be in Israel or Palestine or you know,

11:34 Speaker 2: you know wherever bombs are going off, and that is

11:37 Speaker 2: a daily experience. And we in the United States have

11:41 Speaker 2: never been invaded. Obviously, we've had attacks, and you know,

11:48 Speaker 2: the siloing of information is what gets us into trouble.

11:51 Speaker 2: It seems it happened with Pearl Harbor. It happened at

11:54 Speaker 2: nine to eleven. I mean with a president like Donald Trump,

11:58 Speaker 2: of course, the intelligence community is going to uh, you know,

12:00 Speaker 2: hide things from him because he is a little bit

12:02 Speaker 2: loose lipped. We can't really afford that kind of siloing

12:05 Speaker 2: of information. We need more transparency. So how do you

12:09 Speaker 2: do that with a gridlock?

12:13 Speaker 3: Well, we do have the Senate like Committee on Intelligence,

12:20 Speaker 3: and I think that this is a perfect opportunity for

12:25 Speaker 3: them to really rise to the occasion and to fulfill

12:30 Speaker 3: their obligation, the obligations of their mission. And so you know,

12:36 Speaker 3: we can we can, I guess we can have checks

12:43 Speaker 3: and balances on them as as we see fit as

12:46 Speaker 3: citizens too, to specifically inquire regarding what whatever what. I've

12:58 Speaker 3: forgot the topic that we were talking about up for

13:00 Speaker 3: one moment because I know we're talking about UAP and

13:02 Speaker 3: then but we're talking about the Senate Select Committee.

13:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, how do how do we move? How

13:10 Speaker 2: do no? No, no, don't worry about it. I do

13:12 Speaker 2: it literally all the time. And people, you know what

13:15 Speaker 2: sucks is I okay, So you know rich podcasters like

13:20 Speaker 2: you know, uh uh Sean Ryan. They have producers and

13:24 Speaker 2: they have people that click all the buttons for them,

13:27 Speaker 2: and I get roasted in the comments about like kicking

13:32 Speaker 2: my phone or uh, you know, like a clicking a button. Uh.

13:37 Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell them, like, you know, you have

13:40 Speaker 2: to engage and then you know, say I wanted to

13:43 Speaker 2: move on jolly to to full screen, you know, I

13:46 Speaker 2: have to click buttons to do that. So some of us,

13:48 Speaker 2: some of us aren't Sean Ryan. We don't have a

13:51 Speaker 2: crew working behind us. So I gotta move my hands

13:54 Speaker 2: and I try to stay engaged, and sometimes I lose

13:56 Speaker 2: my train of thought. It's it's a human thing.

14:00 Speaker 3: But I don't have any excuse.

14:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think so, let's because I've kind of

14:10 Speaker 2: lost it now too. But national security, how do we

14:15 Speaker 2: separate national security from disclosure? Because yes, that's right?

14:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, well there, so there the the Senates, like Committee

14:26 Speaker 3: on Intelligence, is responsible for the oversight and the appropriations

14:34 Speaker 3: of funding for intelligence for activities and programs, and this

14:42 Speaker 3: would be one of those opportunities for them to rise

14:46 Speaker 3: to the occasion of of making sure that the next

14:51 Speaker 3: budget is taking into account the activities that we are

14:58 Speaker 3: hoping we will see just closed during these upcoming hearings

15:03 Speaker 3: that we have. I believe it's just next week, nine days,

15:07 Speaker 3: nine days, that's right.

15:10 Speaker 2: I can't wait, I really truly can't. I mean, I

15:13 Speaker 2: don't know if you've heard, but there's a lot of

15:16 Speaker 2: talk about who may be testifying. Oh yeah, yeah, so

15:21 Speaker 2: you know, mark your calendars, everybody.

15:25 Speaker 3: Who is your irresponsible guess? Do you have anyone?

15:32 Speaker 2: I I do. I think one of my guesses is

15:40 Speaker 2: Tim Tim Goddet, Admiral Rear Admiral Tim god At. He

15:46 Speaker 2: was recently featured in a Darcy Ware film about fast movers. Uh.

15:52 Speaker 2: He he seems like a guy that if you got

15:55 Speaker 2: him on the stand, uh, he'd be able to portray

15:59 Speaker 2: to the world in a very serious manner, in a

16:03 Speaker 2: well spoken you know, he's a very well spoken guy.

16:06 Speaker 2: I think he hid. Yes, what I'm hoping they don't

16:13 Speaker 2: do is pull Louel Zondo on the stand. That's I'm really,

16:18 Speaker 2: I really and why is that. I'm not against Loueli Zondo,

16:24 Speaker 2: And I want to make that very clear. I just

16:27 Speaker 2: think that for the topic of u AP right.

16:30 Speaker 3: Now, you're looking for more, you want more.

16:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's anymore lou Lou I think did

16:38 Speaker 2: his job. And whether you know, whether you agree with

16:42 Speaker 2: him or not, whether you agree with his means and methods, sources, whatever,

16:48 Speaker 2: that's you know to to to. That's one thing. But

16:52 Speaker 2: I don't think he I don't think putting him out

16:56 Speaker 2: on the stand it's going to move the ball we need.

17:02 Speaker 2: I mean, when I talk to Tim last, he says,

17:05 Speaker 2: you know, he wants like we wanted to get this

17:07 Speaker 2: thing where we're rolling out material onto the floor right,

17:11 Speaker 2: And I can't say that. I can't say I disagree

17:16 Speaker 2: because stories are only going to get us so far right.

17:21 Speaker 3: I feel like, what is more likely to happen than

17:25 Speaker 3: there being a full government public disclosure, I could see

17:32 Speaker 3: it instead being held within the chambers of the House

17:40 Speaker 3: and Senate. So in a case like that, the again,

17:47 Speaker 3: the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence would have direct involvement

17:53 Speaker 3: as would the House Committee. So it's escaping me right now.

17:59 Speaker 2: But both househover Site Committee and both will be so.

18:04 Speaker 2: So now the Senate is going to be controlled by

18:07 Speaker 2: the Republicans, So a new Senate majority leader. Is that

18:11 Speaker 2: how that works?

18:12 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, that's what that's will be coming up. It'll

18:17 Speaker 3: be interesting to see. Now does a shift in dynamic

18:21 Speaker 3: effects the topic of disclosure? And I think that if

18:26 Speaker 3: we're going to get any kind of disclosure, like I said,

18:31 Speaker 3: I think that it will be tied up in those

18:36 Speaker 3: those committees that can have the clearances to have some

18:42 Speaker 3: of the information. And again it would be on need

18:45 Speaker 3: to know. It wouldn't necessarily just because there's a program

18:50 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that everyone in the Senate and Congress have

18:56 Speaker 3: the right to have access to that information. They have

18:59 Speaker 3: the right to have access to a limited amount of

19:03 Speaker 3: information that tells them what they need to know and

19:07 Speaker 3: has to be truthful. Okay, So it's very highly vouched

19:10 Speaker 3: for and it has to it has to be truthful,

19:14 Speaker 3: but it also has to protect any of our national

19:19 Speaker 3: security interests, and right foods are our intelligence interests.

19:27 Speaker 2: So let me ask you something, if in your expert opinion,

19:31 Speaker 2: as as someone who you know, took an oath for

19:36 Speaker 2: our national security right a couple of times, Yeah, and

19:40 Speaker 2: and and and I I I was going to backtrack.

19:46 Speaker 2: We can, we can go that way in a minute.

19:48 Speaker 2: But as someone who's taken a national security oath. They

19:52 Speaker 2: talk about these four K videos that we have. Now,

19:56 Speaker 2: when the tic TAC video came out, it had all

19:58 Speaker 2: these numbers and stuff on sides that you see, And

20:02 Speaker 2: I mean, isn't there a way that we can just

20:04 Speaker 2: kind of scrub all that stuff and release just the video,

20:09 Speaker 2: maybe even if it makes it hard to distinguish the background.

20:14 Speaker 2: I know that, you know, there's some places that we

20:17 Speaker 2: can't be Maybe those videos do get kept. But if

20:20 Speaker 2: there's something that is just looking at the sky, you

20:23 Speaker 2: can't tell where it is, there's no possible way to

20:25 Speaker 2: make that connection. If you know we're somewhere we're not

20:28 Speaker 2: supposed to be, and uh, you know we don't. Is

20:32 Speaker 2: there a way to get these videos out in a

20:34 Speaker 2: manner that doesn't violate national security?

20:38 Speaker 3: My my suspicion without knowing the details of how they

20:43 Speaker 3: captured this video is no, you're not going to ever

20:47 Speaker 3: see it. And that is because even though you think

20:52 Speaker 3: that it doesn't reveal anything. It absolutely does reveal quite

20:58 Speaker 3: a bit. It reveals capability, it reveals location. You think

21:04 Speaker 3: that they that they can't figure it out from the sky,

21:06 Speaker 3: but you'd be very surprised at how quickly and easily

21:09 Speaker 3: they can figure it out from the sky. So if

21:12 Speaker 3: if this is classified technology that they've captured this video on,

21:17 Speaker 3: then they will will not declassify.

21:20 Speaker 2: That right that that It's it's frustrating, it's it's so

21:25 Speaker 2: frustrating because you know, if if yeah, because you know,

21:31 Speaker 2: we know and and most of these like really really

21:35 Speaker 2: good cases where you know, crashes happen. You know, the

21:38 Speaker 2: military is there within seconds, minutes or whatever. It's always

21:41 Speaker 2: it's always that part of the story. Well, and then

21:44 Speaker 2: the the and then there were guns pointed at me

21:47 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like you know, how did they

21:49 Speaker 2: get to these crashes so quick? Well, they're monitoring the

21:53 Speaker 2: air at all times, and I think that we now

21:56 Speaker 2: have the capability of seeing these things. Oh god, did

21:59 Speaker 2: my camera just blow out?

22:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's cute.

22:04 Speaker 2: What Oh no, I hope my camera didn't just because

22:07 Speaker 2: that was at one hundred percent. That's my this is

22:09 Speaker 2: my good camera. But but but so I'll work on

22:16 Speaker 2: fixing that. But sure, I'm gonna switch to the web

22:19 Speaker 2: camera for a second. Damn. See, that's the stuff that

22:24 Speaker 2: makes you lose your focus. Absolutely, that's it ruins my

22:29 Speaker 2: whole train of thought and where I was going with this.

22:33 Speaker 2: So when like, because when the gimbal video comes out,

22:40 Speaker 2: it it changes. It comes out with that twenty seventeen

22:45 Speaker 2: New York Times article, right, so that that those videos

22:50 Speaker 2: plus the article telling of the program in the United

22:54 Speaker 2: States Act, you know, spending money. Albeit they got that

22:57 Speaker 2: the names mixed up. I shouldn't have called it a

23:00 Speaker 2: tip and it should have been named us up at

23:02 Speaker 2: the time. But again, you know, nickels and dimes. That

23:09 Speaker 2: was a moment in history. But people are now asking

23:14 Speaker 2: because of Luel's ondo and his book Imminent. He talks

23:17 Speaker 2: about how they have this four K video of craft

23:21 Speaker 2: and it's like, you know that one of if they

23:25 Speaker 2: if they show that in a congressional hearing and they,

23:28 Speaker 2: honest to God, say to the American people, listen, we

23:31 Speaker 2: really don't know what that is. Can't figure it out. Uh,

23:36 Speaker 2: And you know, uh, we're we're probably not alone. We

23:40 Speaker 2: don't know. Is that really? Did they really think that

23:44 Speaker 2: that's going to to cause this much chaos.

23:51 Speaker 3: Well, I do think that they think that disclosure will

23:54 Speaker 3: cause a certain amount of chaos, But I think that

23:58 Speaker 3: there are different levels of discolo closure, and that we

24:01 Speaker 3: are seeing it being rolled slowly out like a carpet,

24:06 Speaker 3: you know, it really is, and it's it's been a slower,

24:11 Speaker 3: slower process than people who are close to the topic

24:15 Speaker 3: and the field of study would like. But for the

24:20 Speaker 3: vast majority of Americans, this is not something that they're

24:24 Speaker 3: thinking about on a daily basis. This is a new

24:28 Speaker 3: reality that is coming into their life, rather than it

24:31 Speaker 3: being something that is left to science fiction on the

24:37 Speaker 3: movie screens. You know, they're they're seeing it play out

24:40 Speaker 3: in tiktoks and and you know, upcoming hearings and wondering

24:46 Speaker 3: what's going to be said. So it's a process I

24:49 Speaker 3: think of changing the hearts and minds of the American

24:54 Speaker 3: people and kind of getting them used to it so

24:57 Speaker 3: that it's not a catastrophic type of event, you know,

25:02 Speaker 3: catastrophic disclosure like we call it, where everything just comes

25:05 Speaker 3: tumbling down. If if we can be a little bit

25:09 Speaker 3: more patient, uh, you know, it was my understanding that

25:14 Speaker 3: the presidential elections were were predicted to have been highly

25:24 Speaker 3: debated for the UFO n UAP topic and for NHI

25:28 Speaker 3: and and and that didn't happen. And I watched it

25:35 Speaker 3: not happen live, you know, because we it was an expectation,

25:40 Speaker 3: there was a plan, uh that was that was set

25:44 Speaker 3: in place, and I you know, I'm not privy to

25:47 Speaker 3: what we're wrong, but as you can see, they really

25:51 Speaker 3: did not want this to become a presidential topic. So that,

25:56 Speaker 3: you know, that kind of gives you an idea of where,

26:00 Speaker 3: you know, the powers that be that hold the keys,

26:05 Speaker 3: where they stand right now on disclosure and how much

26:09 Speaker 3: they're willing to give at a time, and we might

26:12 Speaker 3: just have to take it in smaller bites for a while.

26:18 Speaker 3: Does that answer your question? Oh, I can't hear you.

26:23 Speaker 2: It does. Sorry I muted myself when I was trying

26:25 Speaker 2: to fix the camera. No, it does answer the question absolutely.

26:32 Speaker 2: And oh, I think a lot of people. I think

26:38 Speaker 2: a lot of people are feeling a little bit overwhelmed.

26:42 Speaker 2: I think I think this presidential election, it was a

26:48 Speaker 2: pivotal moment in our history and it may go down

26:54 Speaker 2: as either a turning point it could you know, we

26:59 Speaker 2: can look back and say, ah, I got through it

27:02 Speaker 2: and we we came out better, or it could be

27:06 Speaker 2: a lot worse, right, And I think that is what

27:11 Speaker 2: people's thoughts are, that the un the unknown scares people, uh,

27:18 Speaker 2: not knowing and not having control, right, not having control

27:23 Speaker 2: what's happening in Ukraine and Russia, not having control with Iran,

27:28 Speaker 2: and not having in control with the Middle East and

27:30 Speaker 2: what they're doing. So you know, honestly, I think people

27:39 Speaker 2: take solace in the idea that if we started hurtling

27:42 Speaker 2: nukes around that aliens would drop in and save the day. Well,

27:47 Speaker 2: I hate to break it, guys, but I don't think so.

27:51 Speaker 2: I really don't. I or at least we need we

27:54 Speaker 2: needn't We should never fall on that idea, and that's

28:02 Speaker 2: right and say that that you know, mommy and Daddy

28:06 Speaker 2: will get us out of it, out of trouble.

28:08 Speaker 3: Absolutely, No, Actually, it's this is a perfect opportunity for

28:12 Speaker 3: the American people to remember the power of their vote

28:16 Speaker 3: and the power of their voice. And this is an

28:20 Speaker 3: obvious signal to the old state that there is a

28:26 Speaker 3: a change that is desired by the majority of American

28:31 Speaker 3: voters and that they felt that they needed a very

28:36 Speaker 3: drastic change in order for the improvements to be made.

28:40 Speaker 3: And so there's some energy. You know, We've got some

28:45 Speaker 3: kinetic movement at this moment, and so we need to

28:49 Speaker 3: keep that going. And we need to keep having community

28:52 Speaker 3: halls and public discussions, and we need to continue to

28:56 Speaker 3: have conversations with our elected officials so that, you know,

29:01 Speaker 3: we don't just fall into the silence of the holidays

29:04 Speaker 3: when when we have such great energy right now to

29:07 Speaker 3: address a lot of these topics. So, you know, I

29:10 Speaker 3: think that I'm sorry, what.

29:13 Speaker 2: Was that I said. That's a good point. I'm sorry.

29:15 Speaker 3: No, it's okay. I I did mean to wax on, so.

29:21 Speaker 2: But I'll do it.

29:24 Speaker 3: That.

29:25 Speaker 2: It's no, and and and then you're absolutely right, like

29:29 Speaker 2: I said, I think in the face of adversity and

29:32 Speaker 2: and and obstacle, Uh, the United States is always better united, right,

29:40 Speaker 2: And the people don't see that. Yes, okay, the president

29:46 Speaker 2: has a lot of power. The president, you know, negotiates

29:49 Speaker 2: the at the at the big the big Boy table

29:53 Speaker 2: with the rest of the world's leaders, and and and

29:56 Speaker 2: and interacts with NATO on our behalf. But there's a

30:01 Speaker 2: checks and bounces system for a reason. That's why I've

30:04 Speaker 2: always loved this, this, this, this country. And you know

30:10 Speaker 2: that's why I had such a problem with with people

30:13 Speaker 2: relating him to the German leader of World War two,

30:18 Speaker 2: is because like that used to mean something, but now

30:23 Speaker 2: it doesn't because it's just been thrown around by the

30:25 Speaker 2: mainstream medium. Yes, yes, yeah, and and and it's a

30:31 Speaker 2: dangerous game because they did try to I mean, he

30:36 Speaker 2: said he I remember when he said that he would

30:39 Speaker 2: not try to persecute Hillary Clinton because it would look

30:45 Speaker 2: bad for the country, and then they turned around and

30:49 Speaker 2: tried to do that to him. I think the Democrats

30:53 Speaker 2: made several moves that were that were very, very consequential

30:58 Speaker 2: to what is happening today, and that is they did

31:04 Speaker 2: they need they're gonna need to gain the trust of

31:07 Speaker 2: of the the people because right now they they're they're

31:12 Speaker 2: I can assume at an all time low as as

31:15 Speaker 2: far as people who are you know, just just true

31:19 Speaker 2: blue all the way through. And and that's it. But

31:24 Speaker 2: I mean, with with UFOs, with with everything that's on

31:31 Speaker 2: the table, nuclear war, world War three, right, we're facing

31:35 Speaker 2: all these things all at once. What is your gut

31:40 Speaker 2: telling you about the world going forward? Like what what

31:50 Speaker 2: what do you think is in store for us, it

31:55 Speaker 2: seems because it just seems like whoever, let's say, and

32:00 Speaker 2: I hate to cut you off here because I just asked,

32:04 Speaker 2: but but Whoever's if we're in the matrix, if we're

32:08 Speaker 2: in some sort of matrix. I was telling my girlfriend

32:11 Speaker 2: the other day, who are the writers that they got?

32:13 Speaker 2: Because they wrote us, they wrote a hell of a show.

32:16 Speaker 2: Because this thing is it's got drama, it's got it's

32:20 Speaker 2: got everything. I mean, it is a wild time to

32:23 Speaker 2: be alive. Elon's catching rockets with robots.

32:26 Speaker 3: I mean, did you see the picture of him and

32:29 Speaker 3: his sink in the Oval office?

32:31 Speaker 2: Yeah? It makes not like truly, it's just I mean,

32:36 Speaker 2: it's bizarro land, that's what it seems like. And the

32:41 Speaker 2: world's on fire. It's flooding it literally, there's bombs going off.

32:46 Speaker 2: It's it's getting biblical. What what's going on?

32:53 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's my understanding that we all signed

33:03 Speaker 3: up for some fireworks, and we're kind of seeing our collective,

33:09 Speaker 3: our collective consciousness playing out its manifestation. Now, you know,

33:16 Speaker 3: we have a we have ignored and left unaddressed some

33:21 Speaker 3: atrocities that have been happening around the world for many decades,

33:26 Speaker 3: and now we're in a situation where we're we're trying

33:32 Speaker 3: to keep a world war from entering the Western hemisphere,

33:38 Speaker 3: you know. So I don't mean to just go on

33:45 Speaker 3: and on. I have forgotten your question because I do that.

33:48 Speaker 2: That's all right, and you can just here feel free

33:53 Speaker 2: to just go on and on. That's all I know.

33:56 Speaker 2: I just I literally just go on and on and on.

33:58 Speaker 2: People get so sick of me talked.

34:00 Speaker 3: Oh see, I don't want a hog.

34:03 Speaker 2: No. No, actually they come here usually for the guests,

34:06 Speaker 2: not for me. They hate you for some reason. Well, no, no,

34:11 Speaker 2: but you know, I did want to talk about the

34:15 Speaker 2: hearings a little bit more. What are the chances that

34:20 Speaker 2: you can attend?

34:22 Speaker 3: I'm trying, You're trying very hard. I've been working on it.

34:27 Speaker 3: There's actually a group of us who were have been

34:32 Speaker 3: attempting to see how many seats we could get, and

34:36 Speaker 3: we've all come up with zero. And it's been a

34:39 Speaker 3: little disheartening. Yeah, because it are all great people, and

34:43 Speaker 3: I think it would have been fun for the community

34:50 Speaker 3: and it would have been a great experience for us.

34:54 Speaker 3: I guess I shouldn't be talking about it in the past.

34:56 Speaker 3: Tense we still have nine more days, so who knows

34:58 Speaker 3: what the future holds. I don't know. I would love

35:05 Speaker 3: to be there, but we'll see.

35:07 Speaker 2: Well even if you you know, because they need to

35:10 Speaker 2: put the and I've addressed this too, because I send

35:15 Speaker 2: requests to each member that's on going to be on

35:18 Speaker 2: the panel for five to ten minutes of an interview,

35:24 Speaker 2: because you know, and I've called their offices. I'm still

35:27 Speaker 2: scheduling and setting everything up. But in every request I send,

35:33 Speaker 2: I always say that I think they need to put

35:37 Speaker 2: these hearings in a larger room. They keep seeing that

35:40 Speaker 2: there's a huge demand for people that want to come

35:43 Speaker 2: out and witness this firsthand, Like they want to be

35:47 Speaker 2: in the room, not an overflow room, not whatever room.

35:53 Speaker 2: They want to be in the room. So whatever that takes,

35:57 Speaker 2: they need to figure that out. But I know it's

36:03 Speaker 2: going to be the revelations that people have been talking about.

36:10 Speaker 2: And I don't know. Did you hear the term immaculate constellation.

36:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been trying to understand. So my understanding is

36:24 Speaker 3: that this came up as a response to the New

36:29 Speaker 3: York Times article.

36:31 Speaker 2: Ye, I don't know. I don't know that. So immaculate

36:37 Speaker 2: constellation is. It came out in a recent article by

36:42 Speaker 2: Michael Schellenberger, and it is. He is saying his source

36:49 Speaker 2: who is potentially one of these people that may be

36:52 Speaker 2: testifying in front of Congress come the thirteenth and will

36:56 Speaker 2: find out maybe who it is. Sure, but that is

36:59 Speaker 2: a parent the name of a legacy UAP crash retrieval program.

37:06 Speaker 2: Now it does add up when you think about it,

37:08 Speaker 2: because and I told this to mister Burchett. I told

37:13 Speaker 2: this to if you if if you've ever talked to

37:17 Speaker 2: Diana Posoka, she has this contact that she talks about

37:22 Speaker 2: in her book America, Uh American Cosmic. His name's she.

37:27 Speaker 2: She gives them a pseudonym as Tyler. I think we

37:30 Speaker 2: can all deduce who it is by now, but I

37:32 Speaker 2: don't say the name out loud, because again, I'm not

37:36 Speaker 2: that person. So this person, Tyler, goes through this amazing experience.

37:41 Speaker 2: He's part of NASA, like mission control, like very deep

37:45 Speaker 2: in NASA, and you know, he talks about all the

37:48 Speaker 2: esoteric stuff, you know, down from the mission names to

37:52 Speaker 2: some of the rituals that were performed, really weird stuff

37:55 Speaker 2: in connection to launches, and and then you know, you go,

38:00 Speaker 2: you go all the way back to Operation paper Clip,

38:02 Speaker 2: you know, bring forgiving Werner von Braun and and the

38:08 Speaker 2: fucking atrocities that he that that I mean, I know

38:13 Speaker 2: that it's it's it's it's gonna be a hard position

38:17 Speaker 2: under Adolf Hitler. I can't imagine anybody wanting to say

38:22 Speaker 2: no to that guy without understanding that your whole family

38:27 Speaker 2: is going to be murdered if you if you say no,

38:30 Speaker 2: especially if you're someone like Werner von Brown, who is

38:32 Speaker 2: the only person who can make the Saturn five rocket,

38:35 Speaker 2: right if if because because if I can't have the technology,

38:39 Speaker 2: nobody can, and he's going to kill you. So you know,

38:43 Speaker 2: you have like this little tiny shred of like I

38:48 Speaker 2: kind of feel for you, Werner, but also twenty thousand

38:51 Speaker 2: slaves died in the making of that, you know, Jewish slaves.

38:55 Speaker 2: We can't not like that. That is a real fact,

39:01 Speaker 2: right And I think I think Operation paper Clip to me, uh,

39:08 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's like dirty, it's like playing with

39:10 Speaker 2: dirty money. But uh whatever, it launched the Modern Days

39:14 Speaker 2: space program. But Tyler talks about these crashes of UFOs.

39:22 Speaker 2: Apparently this that this this team that he's knowledgeable of,

39:27 Speaker 2: called them gifts. Now, what do you what do you

39:31 Speaker 2: hear when you hear immaculate installation a gift from the heavens? Maybe,

39:39 Speaker 2: I mean it kind of correlates, right, so, and and

39:44 Speaker 2: it would make it would fill in a lot of gaps.

39:46 Speaker 2: I it's it's I've been going down this really weird

39:50 Speaker 2: rabbit hole lately with this whole thing. Because if if

39:55 Speaker 2: Tyler is is, and tyler Is is reputable, uh, her

40:00 Speaker 2: her source is reputable, Gary Nolan uh and her have

40:03 Speaker 2: voached and and and we pretty much know who this

40:06 Speaker 2: guy is and can look at his credentials and he

40:08 Speaker 2: is who he says he is, and he's my God.

40:12 Speaker 2: But like I said, he says, they call these UFO

40:15 Speaker 2: crashes gifts and immaculate constellation. You know it has ties

40:19 Speaker 2: to biblical met and has that a biblical kind of

40:22 Speaker 2: feel to it. And then it you know, constellation from

40:25 Speaker 2: the skies. Right. So again we have this like Eaven

40:30 Speaker 2: meeting Earth right, this exchange. And I can't help but

40:36 Speaker 2: notice the trend is that does that sound you know weird?

40:41 Speaker 2: Do you?

40:44 Speaker 3: Oh? It all sounds incredibly weird, I imagine, I mean,

40:51 Speaker 3: doesn't it? I mean, it's crazy, But but does that.

40:56 Speaker 3: Does that mean that it isn't true? Not necessarily. I

41:00 Speaker 3: don't think so weird.

41:04 Speaker 2: I think the evidence I mean I personally think the

41:09 Speaker 2: evidence all like kind of like what Mitchell Kak who says, uh,

41:16 Speaker 2: the burden of proof is kind of shifted to the

41:19 Speaker 2: non believer at this point, the person who doesn't think

41:22 Speaker 2: there's a phenomena, because we have our evidence, overwhelming evidence

41:29 Speaker 2: that there is at least something going on that we

41:32 Speaker 2: do not understand how it does what it does, and

41:37 Speaker 2: the government is as albeit come out and confirm this.

41:40 Speaker 2: I don't so from like, you know, it's just about

41:44 Speaker 2: making the jump from saying we don't know what it

41:47 Speaker 2: is too it's definitely not us, meaning it's non human

41:52 Speaker 2: right and it's almost like they're leading us to water

41:56 Speaker 2: and just you know, expecting us to drink, but not

42:01 Speaker 2: realizing that we're still apparently pretty stupid.

42:06 Speaker 3: I don't think that. I think that we're pretty skittish

42:12 Speaker 3: and we're prone to being you know, I'd say we're

42:16 Speaker 3: fear prone, you know, a tendency to be fearful of

42:23 Speaker 3: things that we're very unfamiliar with. And you know, I'm

42:28 Speaker 3: starting to question whether or not the phenomena as a whole,

42:35 Speaker 3: the non human intelligence as a whole. It really may

42:42 Speaker 3: mimic be it may I don't want to say mimic,

42:48 Speaker 3: but I guess I am saying that that they have

42:53 Speaker 3: avatars or appear in forms that are mimicking other things.

42:59 Speaker 3: So rather than than being an eight foot mantis, was

43:07 Speaker 3: it mimicking an eight foot mantis? And you know, does

43:16 Speaker 3: that make sense.

43:17 Speaker 2: To give your mind because even though it's an eight

43:20 Speaker 2: foot mantis, that still registers in your head is an

43:25 Speaker 2: eight foot mantis you could put words to. You put

43:28 Speaker 2: words to it. What you can't put words to is

43:32 Speaker 2: a ball of light that you know. It comes into

43:35 Speaker 2: the room, that's right, you know, and and then sucks

43:39 Speaker 2: you up your something you know, does you know, brings

43:41 Speaker 2: you does whatever it does?

43:43 Speaker 3: You know, that's right? Or you just you have missing

43:46 Speaker 3: time and you're really not sure exactly what's going on.

43:48 Speaker 3: You just kind of feel foggy brained and right.

43:51 Speaker 2: Actually, the case of John Yost comes up to me

43:54 Speaker 2: a lot in this scenario of at least screen memory,

44:00 Speaker 2: because he saw he always told everyone that he saw

44:03 Speaker 2: Ultra Man, and that's a cartoon character. But it wasn't

44:08 Speaker 2: until he was regressed that he found it was a

44:11 Speaker 2: mantis being or interesting. So it almost seems like it's

44:16 Speaker 2: a double double one there. Yeah, it's it's layered itself

44:21 Speaker 2: that even in regression, it's still masked.

44:24 Speaker 3: Yeah there's an avatar. Yeah, there's still there's still a

44:28 Speaker 3: representation of some depiction that they've chosen, yes, to reflect,

44:36 Speaker 3: I guess, and that.

44:38 Speaker 2: That could also that could also explain the classic arcle

44:42 Speaker 2: archetypal alien. You know, we understand it now, we we

44:48 Speaker 2: we all recognize it pretty much uniformly across the world.

44:54 Speaker 2: You put up a picture of a big head and

44:56 Speaker 2: big black eyes like we got. Oh, I have it

44:59 Speaker 2: right there. You put that picture up and no matter

45:03 Speaker 2: what language or what person you're talking to, they know

45:07 Speaker 2: exactly that you're talking about alien gray, the archetypal alien. So,

45:12 Speaker 2: you know, could it that? I think that that is

45:15 Speaker 2: something that is absolutely Why wouldn't it be at play

45:19 Speaker 2: at least to some degree with some of these beings

45:22 Speaker 2: And imagine I'm okay if you were in a room

45:30 Speaker 2: right now with the beings whatever beings. I know, I

45:39 Speaker 2: know you've been talking about your story lately, and there's

45:43 Speaker 2: been some changes at least from your hindsight. I don't.

45:48 Speaker 2: I don't want to go too far into it because

45:50 Speaker 2: I just I know you've already done it, and I

45:52 Speaker 2: don't feel the nest need to. But if you were

45:56 Speaker 2: in the room with with this the you know, these

46:02 Speaker 2: non human intelligence, what would be one of the first

46:06 Speaker 2: questions you asked? Now, if you could.

46:11 Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say, is that I

46:15 Speaker 3: don't remember being in a state of mind where I

46:19 Speaker 3: was really asking anything. I was. I was in a

46:23 Speaker 3: state of receiving constantly, so I was on the receiving end.

46:29 Speaker 3: They were definitely on the active end, so they were

46:35 Speaker 3: physically working on my body, and they were speaking to

46:40 Speaker 3: me at the same time and trying to like awaken

46:46 Speaker 3: my consciousness and explaining the situation. And I don't know

46:55 Speaker 3: if I was ever intended to remember it in the

47:01 Speaker 3: way that I did, but I have extremely tactile memories

47:10 Speaker 3: of of being not only in their presence, but of

47:16 Speaker 3: details that I know. I know what I experienced, that

47:22 Speaker 3: I went into a tunnel and it wasn't you know.

47:27 Speaker 3: I don't think that I can ever be convinced that

47:30 Speaker 3: it was all all a some kind of concoction, some

47:37 Speaker 3: kind of side effect, you know, definitely not just cannabis.

47:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I I this is cannabis. This is uh

47:50 Speaker 2: ras and oil. I've been I've smoked it the entire

47:54 Speaker 2: time that we've been on the show. Not once, not once,

47:57 Speaker 2: have I entered a tunnel right.

47:59 Speaker 3: Now, exactly. And see that's what and there are just

48:03 Speaker 3: there are details and I'm not I'm not saying that

48:06 Speaker 3: the property owners we are going to go down this

48:09 Speaker 3: tunnel just a little bit, you know, but the I'm

48:14 Speaker 3: not saying that the property owners did anything you know, wrong,

48:24 Speaker 3: uh necessarily, you know, I don't. I just happened to

48:32 Speaker 3: remember a tunnel being on their property where I know

48:37 Speaker 3: today there is no tunnel. Right, I'm going to be

48:41 Speaker 3: spending the rest of my life trying to understand how

48:45 Speaker 3: I could have experienced, how how I could have actually

48:49 Speaker 3: experienced in a physical reality being in that tunnel, and

48:55 Speaker 3: yet where I am today there is not a tunnel.

49:00 Speaker 2: I know.

49:01 Speaker 3: I know the rest of my life I will be

49:06 Speaker 3: looking for that scientific explanation that I can present.

49:10 Speaker 2: Well, I know of one way.

49:13 Speaker 3: Okay, I know I.

49:14 Speaker 2: Know one way, and I it's not I'm not bringing

49:21 Speaker 2: drugs into this, but I'm bringing the idea into it

49:26 Speaker 2: that okay, because the only time and actually, you know what,

49:30 Speaker 2: this is a synchronicity which I am going to write

49:32 Speaker 2: in my synchronicity log that I have now. Yes, I've

49:38 Speaker 2: been logging all my synchronicities, and I swear, I swear

49:42 Speaker 2: to whatever is out there. It's like I'm having a

49:46 Speaker 2: conversation with something. The answers when you look at them

49:52 Speaker 2: in a row, it's like a story is being told

49:54 Speaker 2: to me. It's so weird. Well, this is one of them.

49:59 Speaker 2: This is very weird because now when I did d MT,

50:03 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that you did d MT, but

50:07 Speaker 2: what I'm saying is the effects of a chemical like

50:10 Speaker 2: d MT gives pretty much uniformly to everyone who smokes

50:18 Speaker 2: it a similar experience, and it is like you're in

50:24 Speaker 2: a tunnel. It's like you're in a tunnel and you

50:28 Speaker 2: meet I met a being who had no face, and

50:33 Speaker 2: there many of people call them machine elves.

50:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seens.

50:44 Speaker 2: So I guess what I'm saying is, what if these

50:52 Speaker 2: beings have the we always hear about them altering our

50:57 Speaker 2: state of consciousness in some form or fashion, in some

51:01 Speaker 2: sort of experience what if they were able? Why why

51:08 Speaker 2: is it such a stretch to think that that your

51:13 Speaker 2: experience wasn't at it was when I did d MT,

51:18 Speaker 2: it was more real than real, right, And and the

51:23 Speaker 2: being I meant, I'm convinced that that being is a

51:25 Speaker 2: literal ethereal being of some sort that is on a

51:29 Speaker 2: level above right. So it's just who's to say that

51:33 Speaker 2: you didn't just gain access and just perceive it the

51:37 Speaker 2: way that you perceived it because of your preset environment,

51:42 Speaker 2: conditions and mindset.

51:47 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, okay, let me here's a good question for you, then, ty,

51:51 Speaker 3: What were you doing your actual physical body? What was

51:55 Speaker 3: it doing while you were on d MT?

51:58 Speaker 2: I was like, so me, I had we brought it

52:01 Speaker 2: was me and two others and we we we went

52:03 Speaker 2: into a field and we created a triangle and we

52:08 Speaker 2: each had our yeah and uh we we we kind

52:12 Speaker 2: of counted down, all took a hit. And before you

52:16 Speaker 2: even come off the pipe, before you exhale, boom, you're

52:21 Speaker 2: not here this microphone, you're not here anymore. I did

52:31 Speaker 2: it look like.

52:31 Speaker 3: A normal field still or did it look like a

52:34 Speaker 3: different place?

52:35 Speaker 2: Oh? It was a different place, I mean, but but

52:38 Speaker 2: it was. But it was familiar enough it was, so

52:44 Speaker 2: I all I'm saying is because d mt IS is

52:49 Speaker 2: naturally occurring in the body. And you know, if if

52:52 Speaker 2: these ets or or if they wanted away and needed

52:56 Speaker 2: a way to communicate with us, if that's how they

53:00 Speaker 2: tap into our brain right and open it up, you

53:04 Speaker 2: know somehow that wouldn't shock me. Gary Nolan's doing work

53:09 Speaker 2: that says that there's a part of the brain specifically

53:12 Speaker 2: that in experiencers seems to be different. So you know,

53:18 Speaker 2: is that the part that you know. I'm just I'm

53:21 Speaker 2: putting together pieces of a puzzle. I'm still not quite there.

53:25 Speaker 2: But it wouldn't surprise me if shamanist, because Shaman's talk

53:31 Speaker 2: about ayahuasca and and the journeys that you go on,

53:35 Speaker 2: the mystical journeys, what you experienced sounds like one of

53:40 Speaker 2: those experiences, just framed in a little bit different of

53:43 Speaker 2: a way. And and I don't know how you accessed

53:47 Speaker 2: it the way you did, but I mean, I cannot

53:54 Speaker 2: sit here in this chair, having seen the things I've

53:57 Speaker 2: seen and done the things I've done, tell you that

54:01 Speaker 2: you didn't see what you.

54:02 Speaker 3: Saw, That's right, right, So so you think I could

54:07 Speaker 3: have would I have been physically able to be walking

54:11 Speaker 3: around having a conversation.

54:13 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely, yeah because I actually thought that, Yeah,

54:19 Speaker 2: I I I when I walked up to the being,

54:22 Speaker 2: I actually kind of thought he was a dick in

54:25 Speaker 2: my head. I was thinking because because and no words

54:29 Speaker 2: were spoken my mind, you, no words were spoken, but

54:34 Speaker 2: I got the feeling that I wasn't supposed to be there,

54:37 Speaker 2: like I left my body untethered, like uh, like I

54:43 Speaker 2: had shot out of it astrally or something. And you know,

54:47 Speaker 2: maybe maybe demon possession. I don't know if it's you know,

54:51 Speaker 2: is that how it works? You know, you're gone for

54:53 Speaker 2: a couple of seconds, do a d MT goddamn demon

54:55 Speaker 2: takes your body because it's soulless. I don't know, I

54:58 Speaker 2: don't know how. No, I'm I'm joking with that one, okay.

55:04 Speaker 2: But it felt when I when I looked at whatever

55:08 Speaker 2: it was, because it didn't have a face, it was

55:09 Speaker 2: just a shot shot a dark hole, uh, and it

55:14 Speaker 2: was like I was looking into the abyss. It gave

55:18 Speaker 2: me the feeling that I was out of place. I

55:22 Speaker 2: shouldn't be there now at this time. And then I

55:26 Speaker 2: took maybe I remember thinking, wow, really like like that's it,

55:32 Speaker 2: and taking one, two, three, maybe four or five steps

55:36 Speaker 2: and then I snapped back into my body and kind

55:40 Speaker 2: of snapped forward and back, and then I'm back in

55:43 Speaker 2: this reality if you want to call it that. It

55:47 Speaker 2: was the most wild experience I've ever had. And I

55:52 Speaker 2: did it four more times to see if it was real,

55:55 Speaker 2: and it's real.

55:56 Speaker 3: That's amazing.

55:58 Speaker 2: So all I'm saying is is, well.

56:01 Speaker 3: I would like to do d MT so that I

56:03 Speaker 3: can compare and and then you know, and I'll tell

56:07 Speaker 3: you honestly, you know, I have the opportunity to do that.

56:11 Speaker 3: I will, I will compare the two.

56:13 Speaker 2: Uh, well, we could talk off here, I can, I can,

56:17 Speaker 2: you know, I can help you out there. Yeah, but

56:24 Speaker 2: all the advertisers literally just pulled out No. But I

56:27 Speaker 2: think it's something that you know, you know what it

56:29 Speaker 2: was on the ballot in Massachusetts legalizing mushrooms psilocybin. I mean,

56:37 Speaker 2: who would have thought on the same ballot I'm that

56:42 Speaker 2: I'm I'm getting rid of the MCST, I have the

56:45 Speaker 2: option to get rid of standardized testing in schools. I

56:49 Speaker 2: also have to vote for the president. And then there's

56:52 Speaker 2: a question about legalizing psilocybin. If you would have told

56:57 Speaker 2: me that when I was twenty, I would have laughed

56:59 Speaker 2: so fucking hard at the thought of even narrow one

57:04 Speaker 2: being legal, let alone psilocybin. It didn't pass because the

57:08 Speaker 2: law was very, very vague. But they're gonna tighten that

57:11 Speaker 2: one up, and they're gonna they're gonna get that one through. Yeah,

57:15 Speaker 2: so they'll tight I even looked at the law and

57:18 Speaker 2: was like, uh, guys, I think we left some words

57:21 Speaker 2: out of this one. This is really vague, right, Like

57:24 Speaker 2: this is a little bit too vague. So it's in

57:29 Speaker 2: a but it was. It's definitely a crazy election, and

57:33 Speaker 2: uh yes, I just I just want people to to

57:36 Speaker 2: to realize that it's not the end of the world,

57:42 Speaker 2: not not not yet, not yet. And I know that

57:48 Speaker 2: you'll spend the rest of your life searching France is

57:51 Speaker 2: just like I will.

57:52 Speaker 3: But again, make no mistake, Tim, I'm gonna interject real

57:59 Speaker 3: quick since you have said that again, I still have

58:02 Speaker 3: communication with the beings. So this wasn't a situation where

58:10 Speaker 3: I returned to the property, did not locate a tunnel

58:15 Speaker 3: and stopped having conscious communication with the beings. No, that

58:22 Speaker 3: still exists, and you know, so I'm I have a

58:26 Speaker 3: lot on my plate that I'm that I'm trying to

58:28 Speaker 3: deal with, And yeah, I guess I don't. I don't

58:34 Speaker 3: really know what to say it, you know. I I

58:42 Speaker 3: reflect back on it often, and I'm I'm definitely on

58:47 Speaker 3: a search for myself to understand what my relationship is

58:51 Speaker 3: and why I have this relationship, and and that includes

58:57 Speaker 3: sorting through different things that they have said to me.

59:03 Speaker 3: And you know, I don't I may repeat what they say,

59:09 Speaker 3: but I don't always ingest it, you know, I don't

59:15 Speaker 3: always make it a part of me. Sometimes I just

59:18 Speaker 3: share what they say. Not everything is meant for me anyway.

59:28 Speaker 3: And so, you know, it's a complicated relationship. It's not

59:35 Speaker 3: that they never deceived me. They did tell me that

59:40 Speaker 3: there was a possibility that when I returned that they

59:47 Speaker 3: would not be there, and I was very fearful of

59:50 Speaker 3: that as time went on. And I don't know why

59:55 Speaker 3: that would be. I don't. That's another thing that I'm

59:59 Speaker 3: searching for answers regarding is, uh, why would it matter

1:00:06 Speaker 3: this artificial construct of time passing that you know, we

1:00:10 Speaker 3: experience in a linear way, what would change over that

1:00:15 Speaker 3: period of time that would cause you know, one one

1:00:24 Speaker 3: year it's there, and then another year it isn't like

1:00:27 Speaker 3: what what occurs during that period of time? How? And

1:00:33 Speaker 3: I mean spatially, you know, and and maybe even all

1:00:36 Speaker 3: the way down to the quantum level, like what's what's happening?

1:00:43 Speaker 3: And I have some really wild and irresponsible theories that

1:00:46 Speaker 3: I'm exploring.

1:00:49 Speaker 2: I Ah, I have a story that I haven't shared,

1:00:54 Speaker 2: I don't think ever.

1:00:56 Speaker 3: Ever, Oh please child, And.

1:01:01 Speaker 2: I guess maybe I didn't share it because it does

1:01:06 Speaker 2: sound so kind of wild, But I have so. I

1:01:11 Speaker 2: grew up next to a haunted road. A lot of

1:01:13 Speaker 2: people know that. Listen to the show that I'm making

1:01:15 Speaker 2: a movie that connects that haunted road to Salem, Massachusetts

1:01:19 Speaker 2: and to the Bridgewater Triangle. And this is the larger

1:01:22 Speaker 2: mystery of playing yes good luck on so on that road.

1:01:30 Speaker 2: That the legend is that there were nuns and they

1:01:37 Speaker 2: were sneaking out of the convent on the road or

1:01:42 Speaker 2: the retreat and they were practic There was a group

1:01:47 Speaker 2: of them practicing uh Satanic magic or rituals. They ended

1:01:53 Speaker 2: up getting caught and they were hanged for I mean,

1:01:58 Speaker 2: it's the ultimate treason. You're married to God and you're caught,

1:02:02 Speaker 2: you know, practicing. Yeah, it's I mean, it's the ultimate crime.

1:02:08 Speaker 2: So the church made an example of them, but their

1:02:13 Speaker 2: ghosts are said to haunt the road to this day.

1:02:16 Speaker 2: I was, now, I've as soon as I caught wind

1:02:21 Speaker 2: of this legend because it is something that is talked

1:02:24 Speaker 2: about in my or. It was talked about in my

1:02:27 Speaker 2: house for many many years. You know, every uh, every

1:02:34 Speaker 2: uh family meet up like Thanksgiving, you know, my grandfather

1:02:38 Speaker 2: would bring it up or something. Someone would bring it up.

1:02:41 Speaker 2: But we lived. That's how that's how close we lived

1:02:44 Speaker 2: to like literally I could hit it throw at the

1:02:46 Speaker 2: tennis ball. Now I also had my UFO sighting outside

1:02:50 Speaker 2: that house, so that now that area is very interesting.

1:02:56 Speaker 2: But me and two other friends who can confirm it.

1:03:02 Speaker 2: And while I was working on the film, a lot

1:03:06 Speaker 2: of these memories came back to me about how many

1:03:10 Speaker 2: times I actually went into the woods looking and exploring

1:03:17 Speaker 2: and trying to find truth to whatever. And my friend

1:03:22 Speaker 2: Nick Santorre, who now lives in Maine, I was talking

1:03:24 Speaker 2: to him about the movie and he goes, remember when

1:03:27 Speaker 2: we and he brings up this story and I'm like, no, oh,

1:03:32 Speaker 2: my god, I do. So we were exploring the woods

1:03:38 Speaker 2: and we came upon this house and it was decrepit,

1:03:46 Speaker 2: Like the house was decrepit. It was like a shot. Yeah,

1:03:50 Speaker 2: it was like a shock. It was so out of place.

1:03:53 Speaker 2: It was in the middle, there was no place being

1:03:56 Speaker 2: where it was. The trees that were next to it

1:03:58 Speaker 2: were like on top of it. It was all the

1:04:01 Speaker 2: everything was bent around and we went inside of it.

1:04:05 Speaker 2: And I have no I have no memory of this cab.

1:04:11 Speaker 2: This this cabin he does, I don't, and but I

1:04:19 Speaker 2: know what he's talking about. That that's my question. And

1:04:23 Speaker 2: that's why for me, that's just a story, right because

1:04:26 Speaker 2: I remember he's like, yeah, that's the night that we

1:04:29 Speaker 2: jumped out in front of uh. We jumped out of

1:04:31 Speaker 2: the woods, you know, because we wanted to scare our

1:04:35 Speaker 2: other buddy, Joey, who had gone and got the car

1:04:37 Speaker 2: and he was coming around the corner. We jumped out

1:04:40 Speaker 2: to to freak him out. But he's he explains the

1:04:43 Speaker 2: whole night and we went in. I've went back. There's

1:04:47 Speaker 2: no cabin.

1:04:48 Speaker 3: Mmh. That's very strange. And you're certain that you came

1:04:52 Speaker 3: back to the same place.

1:04:54 Speaker 2: There's only so much woods I've scoured. I've scoured, so

1:05:03 Speaker 2: I don't know I don't find I don't find your

1:05:06 Speaker 2: story as crazy as people think. Yeah, because again I've

1:05:11 Speaker 2: I've I've myself had some pretty odd things happened. And

1:05:16 Speaker 2: this one hit me home because I didn't remember.

1:05:18 Speaker 3: It until he brought it up.

1:05:21 Speaker 2: Until he brought it up.

1:05:23 Speaker 3: And You're like, oh my god, that's right. I completely

1:05:26 Speaker 3: forgot about that.

1:05:27 Speaker 2: All of it started coming together, and I'm like, yeah,

1:05:30 Speaker 2: so and then and and that's not the only memory

1:05:34 Speaker 2: that's come back. Other memories have come back, uh, not

1:05:38 Speaker 2: good ones, not good ones like you know my mom, No,

1:05:44 Speaker 2: just like I came home to my I probas shouldn't

1:05:48 Speaker 2: say it's on air, but I was very young and

1:05:53 Speaker 2: I walked in on my mother because my father had

1:05:57 Speaker 2: been sent to prison. And I walked in on my

1:06:01 Speaker 2: mom and she was trying to exit the world. And

1:06:09 Speaker 2: I was only maybe eight or nine ten. I don't

1:06:15 Speaker 2: I don't really remember, but I repressed that memory. And

1:06:21 Speaker 2: I'm a sponsor of the show Bio Mind. They have

1:06:24 Speaker 2: this amazing, amazing nootropic. It's a nine and one supplement.

1:06:29 Speaker 2: Ever since I've been taking that and changing my diet,

1:06:33 Speaker 2: these memories are coming back, and they come back in droves,

1:06:38 Speaker 2: but they're not always good. They're not always they're shit

1:06:41 Speaker 2: like that, like baggage that that because I was an alcoholic.

1:06:47 Speaker 2: It's kind of all starting to make sense, is what

1:06:49 Speaker 2: I'm is what I'm saying. You know the path that

1:06:52 Speaker 2: I was put on.

1:06:54 Speaker 3: And you have to unravel that. You've got to unravel

1:06:57 Speaker 3: those memories and and face up to it and detach

1:07:02 Speaker 3: from it, you know, take that energy back from it

1:07:07 Speaker 3: so that so that you don't have to carry it

1:07:10 Speaker 3: forward essentially.

1:07:12 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and I I love my mother and I

1:07:17 Speaker 2: love you know, I I I was, I was over overwhelmed,

1:07:23 Speaker 2: but remember that, you know it was in her room

1:07:28 Speaker 2: when she passed away that I saw her leave, essentially

1:07:34 Speaker 2: leave this world as an orb. Yeah, like I and

1:07:38 Speaker 2: I was. I watched this happen with my own eyes,

1:07:41 Speaker 2: and I am the biggest skeptic. I mean, my girlfriend knows.

1:07:46 Speaker 2: Anyone who was on this recent movie with me knows.

1:07:49 Speaker 2: We went to all these paranormal places like Salem, you know,

1:07:52 Speaker 2: and like it doesn't phaze me. If if it's some

1:07:56 Speaker 2: if something isn't living up to what I think it,

1:08:00 Speaker 2: you know, it's cracked up to be like I tell it.

1:08:03 Speaker 2: For what it is, and there were nice no but

1:08:08 Speaker 2: but you know, there were people on the team that

1:08:11 Speaker 2: were like, oh, lean into it. I was like, no, no,

1:08:15 Speaker 2: that's not what we're about. Like I'm telling the truth,

1:08:18 Speaker 2: So I am not quick. But I saw, you know,

1:08:22 Speaker 2: I I saw this just ball of like like I said,

1:08:27 Speaker 2: it looked like it looked like light was bending around

1:08:31 Speaker 2: it almost, but it like if you've ever looked down

1:08:34 Speaker 2: a long highway in the in the heat like that

1:08:38 Speaker 2: that distortion. It was like a ball of that and

1:08:43 Speaker 2: it it just left the room. And then when I

1:08:45 Speaker 2: looked back, she was gone. Her essence was no longer

1:08:49 Speaker 2: into her body. What color? What do you mean color?

1:08:56 Speaker 3: Was there a color, a shine to it or anything?

1:09:00 Speaker 2: Uh No, because like I said, it looked like lightly

1:09:05 Speaker 2: bending around it. But but again I think that I

1:09:10 Speaker 2: think my mind perceived whatever. It might not have been

1:09:16 Speaker 2: the fullest representation of it, but it was something that

1:09:21 Speaker 2: like I still have I I'm having trouble putting the

1:09:24 Speaker 2: words together now and I've told this story a million times.

1:09:28 Speaker 2: It's but it was a clear orb. It was perfectly circular,

1:09:32 Speaker 2: about maybe two like two handfuls.

1:09:38 Speaker 3: Okay, sure, okay, And.

1:09:42 Speaker 2: I you know, I when one moment she was there

1:09:45 Speaker 2: that then the thing went out the window. Then when

1:09:48 Speaker 2: I looked back, she was gone. Now one plus one

1:09:52 Speaker 2: equals too. I saw what I saw. I don't know,

1:09:58 Speaker 2: I just you know, I might you know what you saw?

1:10:01 Speaker 2: I just now. But but she set me on a

1:10:05 Speaker 2: quest because at that time I was doubting myself. You know,

1:10:08 Speaker 2: I didn't want to do the podcast anymore. But it

1:10:10 Speaker 2: was at that moment that total disclosure was born. And

1:10:15 Speaker 2: you know, I've been and that's leading me to d

1:10:19 Speaker 2: C on the thirteenth, which I'll be documenting everything because

1:10:26 Speaker 2: I feel that's, you know, I've found my My role

1:10:32 Speaker 2: for disclosure is this outlet. This is what I can contribute.

1:10:38 Speaker 2: So I found my place. Have you And that's to

1:10:43 Speaker 2: the audience, not to you, but to the audience. If

1:10:47 Speaker 2: you're in this community, stop just talking on Twitter. Find

1:10:51 Speaker 2: something that you can do to actually contribute and do it.

1:10:54 Speaker 2: It's it's that simple. And and and jolly, you do

1:10:58 Speaker 2: your part, you know you you you I think your

1:11:03 Speaker 2: your quest for answers uh is one that Yeah, it's

1:11:10 Speaker 2: it's complicated.

1:11:12 Speaker 3: It is complicated, and it's not for the faint of

1:11:14 Speaker 3: heart either.

1:11:16 Speaker 2: And especially with what you're going through. Uh, you know, uh,

1:11:20 Speaker 2: with everything, because remember, you know, I think sometimes people

1:11:24 Speaker 2: forget that, you know, you're a human and you have

1:11:29 Speaker 2: human problems that are going on right alongside this. You know,

1:11:36 Speaker 2: like you know it's and and you know it's hard.

1:11:39 Speaker 2: It's hard. So just know that I you know, I

1:11:44 Speaker 2: respect you as a human being, and I know that

1:11:48 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know, if if

1:11:52 Speaker 2: we come into this world, yes we come into this

1:11:55 Speaker 2: world through our mother and our father, but we come

1:11:58 Speaker 2: into this world alone, and one day we're going to

1:12:02 Speaker 2: be looking back at it alone. So we have ourselves

1:12:06 Speaker 2: to answer to. And frankly, my job is to facilitate

1:12:10 Speaker 2: conversations and to platform people.

1:12:14 Speaker 3: So it was great talking tonight.

1:12:17 Speaker 2: Yeah again, So if you're in d C, you gotta

1:12:20 Speaker 2: let me know.

1:12:21 Speaker 3: I will. I'll definitely let you know. Keep you on

1:12:23 Speaker 3: my my list of people that I have to tell

1:12:26 Speaker 3: if I'm going, Yeah.

1:12:29 Speaker 2: I will make my way to you if needed, because

1:12:34 Speaker 2: I'll be there for three four days, so I got

1:12:37 Speaker 2: plenty of time. I can't wait. I really it's gonna

1:12:41 Speaker 2: be exciting, very exciting. I just I for me, this

1:12:46 Speaker 2: is something I've I've never experienced before. You know, I've

1:12:49 Speaker 2: never gone to a congressional hearing. You know, like it's

1:12:55 Speaker 2: weird for me to even say that, but you know,

1:12:58 Speaker 2: I didn't even go on my eighth ade trip to Washington.

1:13:01 Speaker 2: Well partly because my my mom was we didn't have

1:13:04 Speaker 2: a lot of money, but the other part was because

1:13:07 Speaker 2: I didn't care to. You know, I didn't. I didn't

1:13:10 Speaker 2: care to. But uh, yeah, it's it's it's very interesting

1:13:14 Speaker 2: because now I'm like, I've never been so I've never

1:13:17 Speaker 2: been so excited to do something that's wonderful.

1:13:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on you know, and and what a beautiful

1:13:25 Speaker 3: way to to transform the experience of your mother's passing

1:13:31 Speaker 3: into you know, a it's a it was a life

1:13:34 Speaker 3: changing moment for you, and it puts you on the

1:13:37 Speaker 3: path that you're on now. And and how that was

1:13:41 Speaker 3: her last act in this world. Tie the last thing

1:13:45 Speaker 3: that she did for for you, you know, the light

1:13:49 Speaker 3: and actually you the light's good.

1:13:52 Speaker 2: You know. Just that's it's it's funny that you say

1:13:57 Speaker 2: that because I I I just quit my day job,

1:14:02 Speaker 2: I put my I put my two weeks in. I

1:14:05 Speaker 2: didn't just quit and like leave them, but I was

1:14:08 Speaker 2: driving home and I asked, because my mother's ashes hang

1:14:15 Speaker 2: in the cars kind of like you know how people

1:14:21 Speaker 2: hanging things off the rear view mirror. Yeah, so I

1:14:24 Speaker 2: have my necklace. Yeah, it's it's there, and I always

1:14:31 Speaker 2: I whenever I want an answer or something, or whenever

1:14:34 Speaker 2: I want to talk to her, I grab it and

1:14:37 Speaker 2: close my eyes for a second and just ask. So

1:14:39 Speaker 2: this time I asked in Mayama on the right path.

1:14:42 Speaker 2: And then ten minutes later, this streaking light comes over

1:14:47 Speaker 2: the car and it could have just been a meteor. Yeah,

1:14:51 Speaker 2: it could have been a meteor.

1:14:52 Speaker 3: But was it during the showers recently?

1:14:55 Speaker 2: It was? It was well five days ago. I could

1:14:59 Speaker 2: look at okay, so it could have been I'm just saying,

1:15:03 Speaker 2: you know, whatever it was, it could have been something

1:15:06 Speaker 2: more interesting, but I didn't get a good look at it.

1:15:08 Speaker 2: But it was a streak like boom, right, it was

1:15:12 Speaker 2: going forward. It didn't come back over me. It went

1:15:15 Speaker 2: over me. So what I took from it is keep

1:15:20 Speaker 2: on trucking right, yeah, get.

1:15:22 Speaker 3: On that right track. It's literally left a track in

1:15:25 Speaker 3: the sky for you.

1:15:26 Speaker 2: Yeah. Doctor Irena Scott was like, oh, that was pretty quick.

1:15:30 Speaker 2: That was It only took ten minutes for an answer. Yeah, yeah,

1:15:36 Speaker 2: and and I it's been quite it's been interesting lately

1:15:41 Speaker 2: to say the least is And I think more people

1:15:43 Speaker 2: should get more engaged and do more even contact mof

1:15:48 Speaker 2: on and go out and uh do cases or whatever,

1:15:53 Speaker 2: find find a passion because it makes being a part

1:15:56 Speaker 2: of the community not much more fun when you can

1:15:59 Speaker 2: can tribute.

1:16:00 Speaker 3: Something, read a book on consciousness, watch your watch a

1:16:03 Speaker 3: documentary unconsciousness.

1:16:05 Speaker 2: Actually, what time is it real?

1:16:09 Speaker 3: Yeah?

1:16:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. One of my favorite documentaries that you're in is

1:16:14 Speaker 2: uh Constant Contact and it's by Dockside Media, And that

1:16:20 Speaker 2: was the first time I had ever seen you was

1:16:23 Speaker 2: in that that film. Okay, so that they do a

1:16:27 Speaker 2: great job talking about consciousness and that that film. So

1:16:31 Speaker 2: check that out a little a little plug for you,

1:16:34 Speaker 2: I guess because.

1:16:35 Speaker 3: They for Tyler, for the other Tyler.

1:16:39 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, for the other Tyler.

1:16:41 Speaker 3: Yeah.

1:16:43 Speaker 2: But but with us barreling down the road to December hearings,

1:16:52 Speaker 2: Yes again, I'm gonna ask you, what's your gut telling

1:16:56 Speaker 2: you because I've talked to people and they all seem

1:16:59 Speaker 2: to think that there's a wave coming or there, you know,

1:17:05 Speaker 2: not literally maybe literally, but metaphorically. So what is your

1:17:11 Speaker 2: gut telling you, what is your contact telling you?

1:17:16 Speaker 3: Well, my gut is telling me that that we may

1:17:21 Speaker 3: have some some pretty big names that come forward next week.

1:17:27 Speaker 3: We may be surprised at some of the people who

1:17:33 Speaker 3: testify over those What is it going to be two

1:17:36 Speaker 3: or three days? I can't remember? Is it thirteenth? Fourteenth? Fifteenth?

1:17:42 Speaker 2: I think I don't. There's rumors there's going to be

1:17:45 Speaker 2: multiple The main one is on the thirteenth, right at

1:17:49 Speaker 2: eleven thirty.

1:17:50 Speaker 3: Some of them may be closed, so they may be

1:17:53 Speaker 3: scheduled hearing dates on the calendar, but for a closed session,

1:17:59 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just pontificating now, I don't I don't

1:18:02 Speaker 3: really know. But so it'll give us a snapshot of

1:18:09 Speaker 3: where we're at, and it can set the tone for

1:18:15 Speaker 3: the sence Like Committee on Intelligence to dig deeper into

1:18:22 Speaker 3: where those billions of dollars have been going and for

1:18:27 Speaker 3: how long they've been going there, and what they're funding.

1:18:31 Speaker 3: And again, I don't think that we're ever going to

1:18:35 Speaker 3: get the whole story. We may get the skeleton instead

1:18:39 Speaker 3: of the whole body, and we might just have to

1:18:44 Speaker 3: deal with that, meaning that if the ways in which

1:18:50 Speaker 3: they have gathered some of this information or intelligence or

1:18:56 Speaker 3: technology is through a classified means, and they want to

1:19:02 Speaker 3: protect their sources and their capabilities, then they will not

1:19:07 Speaker 3: release any of that particular information. So you would have

1:19:11 Speaker 3: end up with, you know, either at best highly reacted

1:19:18 Speaker 3: UH report reports that that really don't tell you very much,

1:19:24 Speaker 3: or you could end up with I, you know what,

1:19:33 Speaker 3: I to be honest, I I kind of lost my

1:19:35 Speaker 3: train of thought. I looked at the time and I

1:19:38 Speaker 3: just thought, oh gosh, I for like fifteen hours, it's

1:19:44 Speaker 3: been a long day.

1:19:46 Speaker 2: It has it has been a long day.

1:19:49 Speaker 3: Well, but I think we can we you know, we

1:19:52 Speaker 3: can we can expect that that that we're going to

1:19:58 Speaker 3: have a few surprises. And I'm not trying trying to

1:20:00 Speaker 3: you know, play it safe in predictions. It's just that,

1:20:05 Speaker 3: you know, I have been on multiple occasions assured by

1:20:10 Speaker 3: insiders that something was going to come to Fruition in

1:20:14 Speaker 3: a particular way. And because that that thing was, I

1:20:22 Speaker 3: want to say, could have such a powerful influence, it

1:20:26 Speaker 3: was suppressed and delayed, suppressed and delayed, suppressed and delayed.

1:20:31 Speaker 3: And so you know, I don't think that we're we're

1:20:36 Speaker 3: going to have the big shebang that we're hoping, but

1:20:39 Speaker 3: we may have confirmation that there have been contact with

1:20:46 Speaker 3: either off world civilizations or with submersive civilizations, you know,

1:20:56 Speaker 3: ancient retrieved technology. You know, there there's a lot of

1:21:00 Speaker 3: options that are on the table that they can point

1:21:03 Speaker 3: to without telling us the big stuff that we really

1:21:06 Speaker 3: want to know.

1:21:07 Speaker 2: So right right, it's actually a very that was very

1:21:12 Speaker 2: well said, and I could yeah, it's pretty on point.

1:21:17 Speaker 2: And I think as long as we remain committed and

1:21:23 Speaker 2: maintain the pressure and keep this whole status quo of

1:21:27 Speaker 2: the bypart is the nature of the topic, keep pushing

1:21:31 Speaker 2: and maintaining that pressure on our congressmen and our senators

1:21:38 Speaker 2: and the people who represent us, that making it known

1:21:41 Speaker 2: that this issue is something that we will not go

1:21:44 Speaker 2: down quietly into the night. You know, we will not

1:21:49 Speaker 2: stop asking for answers on this until they at least

1:21:54 Speaker 2: come as clean as they can. And I think for

1:21:58 Speaker 2: most of us, we understand that we are going to

1:22:00 Speaker 2: have to meet the military industrial complex halfway on some

1:22:04 Speaker 2: of this stuff. I mean, we're gonna have to provide

1:22:07 Speaker 2: amnesty for people, you know. I mean, we look at

1:22:09 Speaker 2: the JFK file, right and there's maybe one person alive

1:22:17 Speaker 2: that in that file. You know, uh, some information could

1:22:22 Speaker 2: come out and it could implement this one person, and

1:22:28 Speaker 2: that's why they've put more secrecy on it for the next,

1:22:33 Speaker 2: you know whatever seventy years. That's what Trump alluded to

1:22:36 Speaker 2: on the Rogan podcast at least, because he's gonna let

1:22:39 Speaker 2: RFK Junior go wild and investigate this. And he said that,

1:22:43 Speaker 2: you know, most of the people are dead. You know why.

1:22:48 Speaker 2: It's just and again it's I only relate to too,

1:22:52 Speaker 2: because it's it's the stuff from the past. There's no

1:22:56 Speaker 2: one alive, like, Okay, yes, yeah, we'redact that. I get it.

1:23:03 Speaker 2: You need to keep these people alive, you need to

1:23:05 Speaker 2: keep them safe. And there's one thing about the UFO

1:23:08 Speaker 2: community I think that we all admit is they are savage.

1:23:12 Speaker 2: And you know, so if there are living people out there,

1:23:16 Speaker 2: maybe you know, keep them out of the out of it.

1:23:18 Speaker 2: But give us the information, because not only do we

1:23:21 Speaker 2: pay for it, but we're also paying for the secrets

1:23:24 Speaker 2: to be put on us. And it's time we've had that.

1:23:28 Speaker 2: We've had our our full share of that bullshit.

1:23:31 Speaker 3: So and it belongs to us, I mean exactly, you know,

1:23:35 Speaker 3: it's it's ours now, it's fallen into the time that

1:23:40 Speaker 3: I think that most people could agree it's time to

1:23:42 Speaker 3: unseal that.

1:23:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's time to And I think, uh, you know,

1:23:49 Speaker 2: I think that we'll see what happens, We'll see what yeah,

1:23:56 Speaker 2: you know what, We'll see what happens at the hearings.

1:23:58 Speaker 2: But I I was told that expect because if we

1:24:07 Speaker 2: can get enough people to it, you know, I think

1:24:10 Speaker 2: there's enough people in the world that I mean, if

1:24:13 Speaker 2: you surveyed one hundred people, ninety nine of them would

1:24:16 Speaker 2: say that there's intelligent there's more intelligent life in the universe.

1:24:19 Speaker 2: And to think that we're alone is absurd. It's a

1:24:22 Speaker 2: numbers game. Just even if you're playing just a numbers game,

1:24:25 Speaker 2: you're not religious. It's it's kind of absurd to think

1:24:28 Speaker 2: that we're the only game in town. So again, I'm

1:24:32 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see what uh what is unveiled?

1:24:35 Speaker 2: And where can they Where can people find you on

1:24:39 Speaker 2: social media so they can continue following the work that

1:24:41 Speaker 2: you're doing and what uh what you're what you're saying,

1:24:45 Speaker 2: and you know the events you're attending.

1:24:48 Speaker 3: The best place to find me is always on x

1:24:50 Speaker 3: dot com at at yea.

1:24:55 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. So you thank you

1:24:58 Speaker 2: so much for being here.

1:24:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great to talk again. So it's good to.

1:25:02 Speaker 2: See you ty as always, it's so wonderful. And again

1:25:05 Speaker 2: i'd love the chance. Uh if you are there, like

1:25:08 Speaker 2: I said, i'd be, I.

1:25:10 Speaker 3: Will definitely let you know. Don't worry.

1:25:12 Speaker 2: But the plan is to start being able to fly

1:25:16 Speaker 2: guests in or go to them by i'd say mid

1:25:22 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, so that's.

1:25:26 Speaker 3: Right around the corner. It'll be here before you know it.

1:25:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be a blink of an eye. So so

1:25:30 Speaker 2: we'll put you, we'll put you on the list for

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