The Thiaoouba Prophecy: Samuel Chong- "ABDUCTION TO THE 9TH PLANET"

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1:04 Speaker 1: record about forty five minutes of probably the best conversation

1:08 Speaker 1: that I've ever had, and I am literally just boggled

1:14 Speaker 1: right now. Crucial error. I'm gonna bring my guest, one

1:18 Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world, Samuel Jong. Conversion

1:22 Speaker 1: of the Theba Prophecy of the Golden Planet, written originally

1:25 Speaker 1: by Michel de Marque. It's a true report of the

1:29 Speaker 1: author who was physically abducted to another planet, and it

1:34 Speaker 1: goes into this prophecy. And you've been on the show

1:39 Speaker 1: plenty of times before, I think maybe even the second

1:42 Speaker 1: most appearances aside from Steve Masmit.

1:48 Speaker 2: Thank you this compliment.

1:50 Speaker 1: Yes, So, I mean we just had a We just

1:53 Speaker 1: had an amazing conversation. I feel so terrible right now.

1:58 Speaker 1: I don't want to dwell on it too much, but

2:01 Speaker 1: I do want to kind of restart it. So I

2:04 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about what is going on

2:08 Speaker 1: right now. There is a lot of talk about the

2:13 Speaker 1: James Web Space Telescope and how it potentially found a

2:20 Speaker 1: craft or or something that is course corrected and it's

2:25 Speaker 1: headed to Earth. They've also found a potential world with

2:31 Speaker 1: city lights and a certain chemical that only happens. The

2:39 Speaker 1: only way we know it happens is by life, and

2:44 Speaker 1: you know, uh, by life being on a planet. This

2:46 Speaker 1: chemical is produced and is in the atmosphere. So the

2:51 Speaker 1: the uber prophecy, it talks about all kinds of extraterrestrials.

3:00 Speaker 1: What are we dealing with right now? Do you think

3:03 Speaker 1: that something is headed this way?

3:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are dealing with a secrets kept by the

3:09 Speaker 2: government and by a lot of industries. In the book,

3:13 Speaker 2: it really unveils the secrets kept by different people who

3:17 Speaker 2: have an agenda. It talks about the different ets on

3:21 Speaker 2: different planets. When Michel the Murkay was taken by this

3:24 Speaker 2: group of ets to their planet, he was shown at

3:27 Speaker 2: least one hundred and forty seven different species or races

3:31 Speaker 2: of eeds on different planets. We are definitely not alone

3:35 Speaker 2: in the universe or on Earth. We do have companions

3:39 Speaker 2: and people who live on different planets of different categories.

3:42 Speaker 2: It's important to know that we exist on Earth to

3:46 Speaker 2: live a spiritual life, as indicated by the book, deal

3:49 Speaker 2: about prophecy, and now to really dwell on the materialistic

3:53 Speaker 2: aspect of our lives. And the book really unveils a

3:56 Speaker 2: lot of secrets kept by different government agencies, including the

4:02 Speaker 2: fact that there's a et basis on the fartart of

4:05 Speaker 2: the Moon, and there was life on Mars one million

4:09 Speaker 2: years ago or so. And the book also unveils a

4:12 Speaker 2: lot of the modern technologies that were later proven by

4:18 Speaker 2: credible institutions or universities or colleges. So I think this

4:22 Speaker 2: book really is something that people should look into and

4:26 Speaker 2: to learn from it.

4:28 Speaker 1: I absolutely agree. So I want to start by talking

4:34 Speaker 1: about factionalism. Uh, there seems to be, you know, a

4:40 Speaker 1: lot going on in the world right now. I think

4:42 Speaker 1: we can both admit that the human race right now

4:47 Speaker 1: we are in a pivotal, pivotal moment, and you know,

4:53 Speaker 1: the next year, the next two years, who knows. I think.

4:59 Speaker 1: I think we're at a moment where we're about to

5:01 Speaker 1: decide our future in which path we take. Could you

5:06 Speaker 1: agree with that?

5:08 Speaker 2: I definitely agree. This is why Michelle Demarkay was told

5:11 Speaker 2: to write this book. This is very similar to the

5:14 Speaker 2: Book of Enoch that was written by people who knew

5:19 Speaker 2: about what happened to Enoch. And we are living in

5:23 Speaker 2: the era of Noah. Using a metaphor analogy, we are

5:27 Speaker 2: also living in the era of Southern go Mora. So

5:31 Speaker 2: it really depends on what kind of path we truse

5:33 Speaker 2: in the future. We could be like people on the

5:36 Speaker 2: ship built by Noah, the Arc of Noah, but we

5:41 Speaker 2: can also be like people in the Two Cities Southern Gomorra.

5:44 Speaker 2: It's really up to us which path we truse. We

5:47 Speaker 2: are really at a critical moment of time in human history,

5:51 Speaker 2: not just in US history, but human history.

5:54 Speaker 1: Right right, And and I you know the I don't

6:01 Speaker 1: you and I right? We look very different. We we

6:07 Speaker 1: look very different. We're from you know, our ancestors spoke

6:10 Speaker 1: different languages. It reminds me of the Tower of Babel,

6:16 Speaker 1: and I often wonder, you know, was it God that

6:20 Speaker 1: struck us down? Or was it humans that wanted power?

6:25 Speaker 1: Uh that struck us down? And because you know, we

6:28 Speaker 1: we we look back and you know, we our ancestors

6:31 Speaker 1: spoke different languages. We we we look at the planet

6:36 Speaker 1: and we draw these imaginary lines, these borders, uh, different languages,

6:41 Speaker 1: different dialects, you know, all of it. It keeps us separated.

6:46 Speaker 1: So what does the Theoba prophecy say about that? And

6:51 Speaker 1: and those kind of how how does the human race

6:54 Speaker 1: come together as one?

6:57 Speaker 2: We were all created by the same creator. So when

7:01 Speaker 2: God or the Creator created every one of us, it

7:04 Speaker 2: is inserted a tiny portion of itself to each one

7:06 Speaker 2: of us. So we are all creations by God, and

7:10 Speaker 2: we lived in the world to really experience because God,

7:14 Speaker 2: the Creator is a pure spirit and it wants to

7:17 Speaker 2: experience what we experience in life, the happiness, the sorrows,

7:21 Speaker 2: and everything that we do. And we send positive feedback

7:25 Speaker 2: to the Creator throughout higher self. And we do see

7:28 Speaker 2: that the world is becoming increasingly divided because there's a

7:33 Speaker 2: group of people who has a different agenda. They want

7:36 Speaker 2: more power, more control, and by dividing us, they can

7:41 Speaker 2: can divide and conquer. This is actually their motile. I

7:45 Speaker 2: would say some of the secret societies have this kind

7:47 Speaker 2: of agenda in their mind. If you're speaking about the

7:51 Speaker 2: Tower of Bubble, I would want to mention my friend

7:54 Speaker 2: in the Bay Area who was able to levitate when

7:57 Speaker 2: he was young, when he was pratiging the practicing the

8:01 Speaker 2: energy work of chievum, but after he came to the US,

8:05 Speaker 2: focusing more on how to make a living, he lost

8:08 Speaker 2: the ability to levitate. And this is a true story.

8:12 Speaker 2: And I believe that people in the past were very

8:14 Speaker 2: spiritual and so they were able to communicate with each

8:17 Speaker 2: other through telepathy. But as stys go on, they were

8:21 Speaker 2: more focused on the materialistic aspect of their lives, so

8:24 Speaker 2: they lost the ability to communicate through telepathy. If you

8:28 Speaker 2: do some research, if you search the ancient tribes in

8:32 Speaker 2: Brazil or the Native America and Native tribes in Brazil,

8:37 Speaker 2: you're going to find evidence of telepathy, the ability to

8:42 Speaker 2: communicate through telepathy in some of their tribes and people

8:46 Speaker 2: in Africa, like in ancient times, according to the book

8:50 Speaker 2: Dealoba Prophecy, they were able to levitate. But as we

8:54 Speaker 2: all know, there were several great recess in human history

8:57 Speaker 2: in the ancient civilizations, we lost the ability.

9:02 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is, you know, it kind of

9:07 Speaker 1: is a catch twenty two if you look at it,

9:09 Speaker 1: because the more we progress with technology, you know, the phones,

9:16 Speaker 1: the computers, So the more we rely on technology, the

9:23 Speaker 1: less out of touch with our spirituality we get. And

9:28 Speaker 1: you can kind of see this with an example, like

9:31 Speaker 1: you just used the person who lost the ability to

9:37 Speaker 1: to levitate. Like I used to be able to remember everybody,

9:43 Speaker 1: every single one of my friend's phone numbers, for instance,

9:47 Speaker 1: right by heart. I'd be able to pick up the

9:49 Speaker 1: phone dial exactly Brandon call. Or you know, my mom

9:56 Speaker 1: and dad drove around without GPS's but now I can't

10:00 Speaker 1: remember God damn, I can't remember my own phone number sometimes,

10:04 Speaker 1: let alone someone else's. Uh, And without GPS, I don't

10:08 Speaker 1: even know where I'd be going half the time or

10:11 Speaker 1: at all. So it seems like it's a catch twenty two.

10:15 Speaker 1: So how how do we how do we balance the two.

10:20 Speaker 2: Yes, the ets with far more advanced technologies are warning

10:26 Speaker 2: us to be careful of the progress of technological technological

10:31 Speaker 2: development because that will lead us to a more confined

10:35 Speaker 2: materialistic world. But we can also use technology to improve

10:39 Speaker 2: our spirituality. And though this is why I've been trying

10:42 Speaker 2: to develop the aura camera that is more efficient and

10:47 Speaker 2: better than the one on the market, Because when we

10:49 Speaker 2: are able to see the energy fields of a person,

10:52 Speaker 2: or the auras or the colors of the areas of

10:54 Speaker 2: a person, you're able to tell whether that person is

10:58 Speaker 2: lying or not, whether that person is sincere. But that

11:02 Speaker 2: person is going to have certain diseases down the road

11:05 Speaker 2: in the future, Yeah, because the colors manifest before physical

11:09 Speaker 2: symptoms occur.

11:11 Speaker 1: How so there are cameras on the market that do that.

11:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, there are aura cameras on the market that.

11:19 Speaker 1: Do so how would you how are you doing that?

11:24 Speaker 1: How would how would that even be able to be captured?

11:28 Speaker 2: So if people do some research about curly and photography,

11:32 Speaker 2: they're able to realize that there are energy feels of

11:38 Speaker 2: human body, and then through certain kind of technology, they're

11:43 Speaker 2: able to manifest different colors of that energy fields, and

11:48 Speaker 2: people some people have the innate ability or natural ability

11:52 Speaker 2: to see the colors of auras, people like Barbara Brennan,

11:55 Speaker 2: a former Nazi scientists, people like Judist Collings, people like

12:00 Speaker 2: Russelin Brewery and some of the other or readers who

12:03 Speaker 2: can just see tell like whether a person is lying

12:07 Speaker 2: in front of the audience or people even in movies

12:12 Speaker 2: or in films, they can see the auras.

12:15 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, okay, okay, So that's that's I'd be

12:20 Speaker 1: very interested to see a camera like that and be

12:25 Speaker 1: able to to to try to use it in some

12:28 Speaker 1: sort of way, So that'd be interesting. Uh, well, we'll

12:31 Speaker 1: have to talk about that. So what do you think

12:37 Speaker 1: now the Theuba Prophecy, There's so much that's going on

12:42 Speaker 1: in it. One of the themes is reincarnation religion. Now

12:50 Speaker 1: the Bible, the Bible that people know today, reincarnation is

12:55 Speaker 1: not in it. But in the Theuba Prophecy, incarnation is

13:00 Speaker 1: absolutely tied to things like Jesus Christ and just just

13:07 Speaker 1: the world. That's how it goes. So can you expand

13:12 Speaker 1: upon that and what it means to be religious for spiritual.

13:19 Speaker 2: Yes, we do have different reincarnations in different lifetimes and

13:25 Speaker 2: there are different religions that believe you incarnation, but not

13:27 Speaker 2: the Christian religion. The book Silba Prophecy explains why Jesus

13:34 Speaker 2: or Christ died on the cross and then resurrected three

13:37 Speaker 2: days after he did that, just to show people at

13:40 Speaker 2: the time that there's life after death and there's reincarnation.

13:44 Speaker 2: But for some reason, the concept of incarnation was later

13:47 Speaker 2: removed by the Catholic Church council meetings. The book is

13:51 Speaker 2: so so very specific. He named the four different Catholic

13:56 Speaker 2: Church council meetings that intentionally distorted the origin meanings of

14:00 Speaker 2: the ancient scriptures in the Bible. So what happened was

14:03 Speaker 2: that we are the creations of the Creator and we

14:08 Speaker 2: are here to experience different challenges in life. When we die,

14:14 Speaker 2: we give up the physical body. Our afterbody goes into

14:17 Speaker 2: a higher self, and then there's a life reveal process.

14:21 Speaker 2: We would reveal everything we did in our lifetime, and

14:24 Speaker 2: we would be able to feel how others felt when

14:26 Speaker 2: did certain things on to others. For example, if I

14:29 Speaker 2: hit a person, I would be able to feel the

14:32 Speaker 2: pain suffered by the other person. It's like a holographic

14:36 Speaker 2: film replaying everything we did in our lifetime and then

14:40 Speaker 2: we would evaluate how we did ourselves. We would need

14:45 Speaker 2: to we would know how we need to focus more

14:49 Speaker 2: or what we need to learn the spiritual lessons in

14:52 Speaker 2: our next lifetime. Then when time comes, we are going

14:55 Speaker 2: to be shown different options in the next lifetimes. We

14:59 Speaker 2: would side which family to be born into, which spiritual

15:04 Speaker 2: lessons to learn, and which partner we are going to

15:07 Speaker 2: have in lifetime. Things goes on. So it really doesn't

15:10 Speaker 2: matter whether you are the richest person in the world

15:13 Speaker 2: such as the Ela Musk, Jeff Bezels or Bill Gates,

15:16 Speaker 2: or we're in Buffett or if you're a bigger on

15:19 Speaker 2: the street, we are the same. We only need to

15:23 Speaker 2: learn spiritual lessons, and different spiritual lessons are learned depending

15:27 Speaker 2: on the roles that you play in life. So according

15:31 Speaker 2: to the book, we are just like different positions on will.

15:36 Speaker 2: What goes up has to come down. We all need

15:39 Speaker 2: to experience different lifetimes in different worlds.

15:43 Speaker 1: Right, And so I want to touch on I have

15:48 Speaker 1: a couple of things I want to touch on. You

15:52 Speaker 1: talked about these families. Now, who are these families that

15:59 Speaker 1: are controlled or not? Who are they? But are you

16:05 Speaker 1: saying that there are It's not it's a global initiative

16:12 Speaker 1: of certain individuals that are manipulating the rest of the

16:16 Speaker 1: world as they see fit.

16:19 Speaker 2: Yes, in the US, especially this year, people are looking

16:23 Speaker 2: at the elections, they're looking at the Republicans versus Democrats.

16:28 Speaker 2: But what they don't know is that there's a group

16:30 Speaker 2: of people running everything behind the scenes. Both parties are

16:34 Speaker 2: under payroll, So they're this kind of hidden hand manipulating

16:39 Speaker 2: everything that goes down in the world. They're multinational, they're

16:43 Speaker 2: transnational in their mind. Nations or countries don't exist.

16:48 Speaker 1: They only power and greed exist exactly. And money, of course, yes, and.

16:54 Speaker 2: They have the ability to control billions of dollars and

16:59 Speaker 2: hundreds of billions of dollars. In fact, my friend in

17:02 Speaker 2: the Bay Area, who was able to who was able

17:05 Speaker 2: to levitate, had an encounter in twenty ten in Hong Kong,

17:10 Speaker 2: meeting a person who told him about how the financial

17:14 Speaker 2: system works, or how the financial structure worked, how the

17:18 Speaker 2: central banks were controlled. And he didn't believe any of this.

17:22 Speaker 2: So that mysterious person in Hong Kong took him to

17:25 Speaker 2: the VIP service of HSBC and then you seeing my

17:30 Speaker 2: friend's passport, he opened account U see my friend's name

17:34 Speaker 2: and transferred five billion US dollars into his bank account

17:38 Speaker 2: right at that moment. My friend was shocked.

17:43 Speaker 1: So this is just, this is just all of this

17:47 Speaker 1: is a stage. It's it's it's all, it's manufactured.

17:58 Speaker 2: Yes, we did.

17:59 Speaker 1: He must acted and busy exactly and not not growing spiritually.

18:06 Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt you, I'm very very sorry, But so

18:10 Speaker 1: do you think their goal is to keep us away

18:13 Speaker 1: from spirituality? Because I mean, we know that people like

18:17 Speaker 1: Robert Bigelow have done contests like you know that the

18:23 Speaker 1: contest that Jeffrey misch Love won it's right here, the

18:28 Speaker 1: Life after Death essay, which actually I mean Jeffries. Jeffries'

18:35 Speaker 1: essay is very similar to what is talked about in

18:41 Speaker 1: the Theuba prophecy, and that was he won the first

18:45 Speaker 1: prize of five hundred thousand dollars an essays called Beyond

18:48 Speaker 1: the Brain the Survival of Human Consciousness after permanent bodily death.

18:53 Speaker 1: Now that's talked about very very in high detail in

18:59 Speaker 1: this book exactly.

19:02 Speaker 2: And Jeffrey Mitchelv is a very good friend of mine.

19:04 Speaker 2: He has a PhD degree. But this book sealed a

19:08 Speaker 2: prophecy that talks about Reincarnation and Life After Dea was

19:12 Speaker 2: written by an author, a landscaper farmer in Australia who

19:16 Speaker 2: didn't know how to use a computer.

19:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't have access to the internet. And deep

19:22 Speaker 1: conversations like these to you know, or any educational background,

19:27 Speaker 1: it makes no sense how someone like that. And by

19:30 Speaker 1: the way, there's not just these deep concepts, but there's

19:35 Speaker 1: deep or deep concepts, but there's also mathematical and scientific

19:41 Speaker 1: theories presented in the book. Yeah, I mean, can you

19:46 Speaker 1: expand upon that?

19:47 Speaker 2: Yes, the book contains a lot of specific, verifiable facts

19:51 Speaker 2: that can be proven scientifically. For example, then Michelle Demarcay

19:56 Speaker 2: entered into their spacecraft, they this effect infected him using

20:01 Speaker 2: yellow light and blue light, and years later Harvard Medical

20:05 Speaker 2: School had a paper documenting the anti bacterory effect of

20:09 Speaker 2: blue light. And also just recently a few years ago,

20:12 Speaker 2: there was also another paper written by scholars documenting the

20:17 Speaker 2: anti bacterory effect of yellow light. So this is far

20:20 Speaker 2: ahead of its time, yes, And it discloses about the

20:25 Speaker 2: et basis and farther the moon and also the life

20:29 Speaker 2: on Mars that occurred at one point three million circle.

20:33 Speaker 2: And also it talks about a lot of things that

20:35 Speaker 2: we are able to discover years after. The book was

20:39 Speaker 2: published in nineteen eighty three, so this book was published

20:43 Speaker 2: before the age of the Internet. But it also talks

20:46 Speaker 2: about the facts that we were able to prove years.

20:50 Speaker 1: After, right, right, many years after, So I wanted to

20:56 Speaker 1: So it seems to me, it seems to me that

21:01 Speaker 1: that the Vatican is essentially the first intelligence agency. It's

21:10 Speaker 1: the it's the first, it's the first intelligence, intelligence gathering

21:14 Speaker 1: operation and potential start of the cover up, the manipulation

21:22 Speaker 1: of the narrative in favor of greed and power. So

21:28 Speaker 1: you know, Christ is is because because in this conversation,

21:32 Speaker 1: you know, you're going to be talking about going away

21:35 Speaker 1: from organized religion but going towards spirituality. But the the

21:42 Speaker 1: the listener is going to ask, why then are we

21:45 Speaker 1: talking about Jesus Christ.

21:49 Speaker 2: Because the Jesus Christ where the people sent better ets

21:54 Speaker 2: to help us to learn about the importance of being spiritual,

21:59 Speaker 2: and they in fact had been helping us throughout history,

22:03 Speaker 2: has documented in the Bible. In fact, the distraction of

22:07 Speaker 2: southern Gomorra was done by then because the people in

22:11 Speaker 2: the two cities were so evil and they were respontable

22:16 Speaker 2: for the birth of Jesus by putting the embryo into

22:20 Speaker 2: the uters a virgin Mary, just to show people that

22:23 Speaker 2: someone extraordinary was going to be born this way. But

22:29 Speaker 2: when a person is born into the embryo, he would

22:32 Speaker 2: have to pass through what the ancient Acas would call

22:35 Speaker 2: the river of oblivion forgetting all the knowledge to perform miracles.

22:39 Speaker 2: So this is why the young Jesus, being born from

22:43 Speaker 2: an embryo, he couldn't perform miracles. So this is why

22:48 Speaker 2: when you read the Bible, you don't see Jesus performing

22:51 Speaker 2: any miracles. Before he began preaching, even though he was

22:55 Speaker 2: highly spiritual, having a very profound conversation with the teachers

22:58 Speaker 2: of the temple, he went to India. This is why

23:02 Speaker 2: some people say that Jesus went to India. Yes, indeed,

23:04 Speaker 2: he did go to India, traveled through China and died

23:08 Speaker 2: in Japan. So this is why if you look at

23:10 Speaker 2: the internet, you were able to find the tomb of

23:13 Speaker 2: Jesus in Shingo Village, Japan. This is the picture. Yes,

23:18 Speaker 2: and Christ, on the other hand, was being sent by

23:21 Speaker 2: the Ets from Theoba or Jova to come to Earth

23:25 Speaker 2: to perform miracles so that his teachings would be believed

23:29 Speaker 2: by the people at the time, because people in the

23:32 Speaker 2: past as well as people nowadays, they're highly skeptical. They

23:35 Speaker 2: wouldn't just believe any teachings of just anyone. Someone would

23:39 Speaker 2: have to perform miracles in order for his teachings to

23:43 Speaker 2: be believed. So Christ preached about love and spirituality, and

23:48 Speaker 2: he died on the cross and then resurrected three days

23:51 Speaker 2: after just to show people that there's life after death

23:55 Speaker 2: and their reincarnation. So this is the connection between Jesus

24:01 Speaker 2: Christ and also people from field them. In fact, we

24:05 Speaker 2: should follow the teachings of Christ, but not be religious,

24:10 Speaker 2: not to follow a specific organist religion. You're mute, You're

24:29 Speaker 2: you're a mute.

24:31 Speaker 1: So yeah, we see, we see that. Even the shroud

24:36 Speaker 1: of Turin was just tested again and uh they dated

24:40 Speaker 1: it back, uh saying it exactly matches up with that timeframe.

24:45 Speaker 1: And I mean the shroud literally shows that, I mean

24:52 Speaker 1: some sort of gamma radiation took place or that was

24:56 Speaker 1: that's the only thing that would allow for the print

25:00 Speaker 1: to to to be there. So this, this character of

25:04 Speaker 1: Jesus who preaches love, love, it seems, is the only

25:11 Speaker 1: thing that transcends time. And space and you know abduction, abductees,

25:19 Speaker 1: other other people in uphology. Uh they always say that, uh,

25:25 Speaker 1: these beings are taking us and warning us of technology,

25:32 Speaker 1: warning us about uh uh progressing down the wrong path

25:38 Speaker 1: and potentially annihilating ourselves. Uh. What what do you think

25:43 Speaker 1: that the uber Prophecy brings to that world? What do

25:47 Speaker 1: you think it is trying to tell the world.

25:50 Speaker 2: It's trying to tell us we need to change now,

25:54 Speaker 2: otherwise we're going to be heading catastrophe. It listed the

25:58 Speaker 2: four real dangers on Earth, number one being money, number

26:02 Speaker 2: two politicians, number three, journalists and drugs. Number four religions.

26:08 Speaker 2: Is telling us to be seekers of knowledge, to have

26:11 Speaker 2: the knowledge kept by the government, by the secret societies

26:16 Speaker 2: or by people who have specific agendas, and to empower

26:21 Speaker 2: ourselves and look inside for answers because we are connected

26:26 Speaker 2: to God, the Creator through a higher self, and not

26:30 Speaker 2: to be slaves of the multi corporations.

26:34 Speaker 1: Right. And you know something we talked about in the

26:41 Speaker 1: previous non recorded version was that it's it's like these

26:48 Speaker 1: families are playing the Wizard of Oz and they want

26:53 Speaker 1: us to be They want us to be uh distracted,

26:59 Speaker 1: They want us to be pitted against each other, uh,

27:02 Speaker 1: because to go towards organized religion and to not be spiritual,

27:07 Speaker 1: because when you become spiritual and and you know, you

27:14 Speaker 1: you look at the Earth, you kind of get that

27:17 Speaker 1: observer effect, right, that astronauts get when they look back

27:20 Speaker 1: on the Earth. It's that that feeling of Wow, there's

27:24 Speaker 1: no borders, right, We're all in this together. And that's

27:28 Speaker 1: what happens when you look inside as well, or when

27:31 Speaker 1: you're in Maine or some remote place and you look

27:35 Speaker 1: up and you're able to see all the stars after

27:38 Speaker 1: living in the city for many years and not seeing

27:41 Speaker 1: the Milky Way galaxy for what it really looks like.

27:44 Speaker 1: You know, those are those profound moments that we have.

27:49 Speaker 1: And to go back to the James Webb telescope, like,

27:53 Speaker 1: if I was a government and there was something on

27:55 Speaker 1: its way, I would try to find life far away

28:00 Speaker 1: first and usher in a new reality. And I would

28:05 Speaker 1: start that by the slow breadcrumbs, right, fine life one hundreds,

28:12 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five, you know, light years away,

28:17 Speaker 1: and then slowly it would get closer and you know, then, oh,

28:21 Speaker 1: there was ancient life on Mars. Then it would get

28:25 Speaker 1: a little bit more personal. We actually came from Mars.

28:29 Speaker 1: You know, we were the people who escaped Mars, and

28:33 Speaker 1: they would they would try to bring this narrative upon

28:36 Speaker 1: us and give us an explanation to our origin that

28:41 Speaker 1: is not true, so right and the big deception. So

28:48 Speaker 1: they want us to be more materialistic and that the

28:51 Speaker 1: Yuba prophecy goes into so many aspects. For a farmer

28:57 Speaker 1: in nineteen nineties to be to be talking about this,

29:03 Speaker 1: it just makes me believe that he went to this planet.

29:06 Speaker 2: And more importantly, the book unveils the secret kept by

29:11 Speaker 2: a lot of the different people. It talks about where

29:14 Speaker 2: we all came from originally. Indeed, we came from different planets,

29:19 Speaker 2: like the Blacks and the Eelos came from a planet

29:21 Speaker 2: called Bakratini, and the Tipedans came from Mars, and the

29:26 Speaker 2: Caucasians came from a different planet. The Hebrews came from

29:30 Speaker 2: a planet of a different category. So this is why

29:33 Speaker 2: the Hebrews were the chosen people as said in the Bible.

29:37 Speaker 2: So if people are interested, they should get a book

29:39 Speaker 2: and to look into the details of what really happened

29:43 Speaker 2: in the past is really amazing and eye opening.

29:46 Speaker 1: Why did why did Jesus die on the Cross.

29:51 Speaker 2: Because when Christ died on the Cross, that was meant

29:56 Speaker 2: to show people that he was going to resurrect three

30:01 Speaker 2: days after and there's life after death. Oh oh yea.

30:06 Speaker 1: So it was meant to show reincarnation exactly. So okay,

30:12 Speaker 1: and and that okay, so and that's what I meant.

30:17 Speaker 1: So abductees people in upology, a big topically has been

30:24 Speaker 1: uh so like like the sole contract that we make,

30:28 Speaker 1: you know, where we choose our our place, we choose

30:33 Speaker 1: our circumstances. Uh and we basically you know, go through

30:38 Speaker 1: like a life review. Near death experiencers talk about this

30:42 Speaker 1: as well. This is also all in the Deuber prophecy.

30:46 Speaker 2: Yes exactly, Michelle de Burkay. The author was taken to

30:50 Speaker 2: his past lives, his past eighty lives, and to see

30:55 Speaker 2: who he was in each of his lifetimes. A few

30:58 Speaker 2: times he was a beggar on street. Once he was

31:00 Speaker 2: a German miner who accidentally killed his wife, leaving many

31:04 Speaker 2: children behind him. Once he was a queen on in

31:10 Speaker 2: a different planet. And once he was a gholstmith in Japan,

31:14 Speaker 2: a water carrier in India, so he was a he

31:18 Speaker 2: played different roles in his past lives. So this is

31:21 Speaker 2: why I mentioned that the different past life or just

31:25 Speaker 2: like different positions on will, what goes up has to

31:28 Speaker 2: come down. So we have to learn different spiritual lessons

31:31 Speaker 2: by playing different roles in each of our lifetime. So

31:35 Speaker 2: it really doesn't matter whether you're the richest person in

31:39 Speaker 2: the world or just a background street or even a

31:42 Speaker 2: prisoner in a jail or in prison. So it really

31:45 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. We have different spiritual lessons to learn. The

31:49 Speaker 2: most important thing is how we respond to life challenges.

31:53 Speaker 2: That's the key of life. We are spiritual beings, having

31:55 Speaker 2: a physical experience. How we respond to different situations is

32:01 Speaker 2: the key to learning spiritual lessons, right.

32:06 Speaker 1: And you see that, like I said, love is is

32:11 Speaker 1: it seems to be the anti anti evil love, right,

32:21 Speaker 1: It's not. It's not good because it's love. It's you know,

32:27 Speaker 1: because nothing, nothing can break that that bond. Uh, it's

32:31 Speaker 1: the only thing that transcends time, space, Uh, the distance whatever,

32:38 Speaker 1: it transcends all of that. And you know, we talk

32:42 Speaker 1: about this proverbial you know, does does if a tree

32:47 Speaker 1: falls in the woods, does anyone hear it? Well, some

32:52 Speaker 1: people argue that there has to be an observer for

32:56 Speaker 1: the tree to even exist. Uh, you talk and the

33:00 Speaker 1: deuber prophecy talks about the creator of the universe. So

33:06 Speaker 1: I've asked myself, you know, you know, we look at

33:08 Speaker 1: the double slid experiment and how photons act differently well

33:12 Speaker 1: observed and not observed. But the universe would have to

33:17 Speaker 1: have an observer itself. So would it be this spiritual being,

33:21 Speaker 1: the spiritual creator.

33:24 Speaker 2: Yes, it will be the spirit the creator of the universe.

33:27 Speaker 2: Because we are currently living on a category of one planet,

33:32 Speaker 2: but we can progress and move up the letter to

33:35 Speaker 2: a category nine or join and rejoin the great Ether,

33:39 Speaker 2: the Creator. And it's very important to know that being

33:44 Speaker 2: a lower category of planet doesn't mean that we are failing.

33:49 Speaker 2: It just means we're learning the basic lessons in life

33:52 Speaker 2: like elementary school students and the Theubans are inhabitants of

33:58 Speaker 2: category nine planet, so they're just like college professors guiding

34:02 Speaker 2: us and mentoring us. They have better knowledge, so they're

34:07 Speaker 2: able to levitate, they're able to heal all the diseases,

34:11 Speaker 2: and they're able to materialize objects, perform all the miracles

34:14 Speaker 2: that's performed by Christ. So they're able to do anything

34:18 Speaker 2: that we can imagine. They can communicate through telepathy. But

34:22 Speaker 2: they're not God itself. They are just the physical beings

34:28 Speaker 2: just like us. But there's a creator, which is a

34:31 Speaker 2: pure spirit, which is watching us and also absorbing the

34:38 Speaker 2: positive experiences that we experience in our lifetime. So it's

34:42 Speaker 2: important to be positive and to follow the teachings of

34:46 Speaker 2: Christ in order to move up the letter faster.

34:51 Speaker 1: Right, I believe in the prophecy. In the deeper prophecy,

34:54 Speaker 1: it says that this spiritual creator left the piece of itself.

34:59 Speaker 2: In all of us us, Yes, exactly.

35:02 Speaker 1: So would that be our soul? And and or is

35:08 Speaker 1: our soul something different? Is consciousness something different?

35:13 Speaker 2: That is what the people would call our soul. But

35:17 Speaker 2: the more specific explanation is giving the book thelout prophecy.

35:21 Speaker 2: We have our physical body, we also have we also

35:24 Speaker 2: have our aster body, and seven or eight different other

35:28 Speaker 2: bodies metaphysical.

35:31 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, right, uh. And I find that to be

35:37 Speaker 1: That would explain like it would explain why some people

35:41 Speaker 1: see ghosts. It would explain why some people are you know,

35:46 Speaker 1: or our mediums, or can channel other beings. It would

35:51 Speaker 1: explain a lot of those things. And I think, like

35:54 Speaker 1: you said, I think our ancestors and people that came before,

36:00 Speaker 1: were more in touch. We look at the we look

36:02 Speaker 1: at the Great Pyramids, and we're like, how do they

36:05 Speaker 1: build those? Well, what if technology wasn't what we think

36:09 Speaker 1: it is today as it was to them. What if

36:12 Speaker 1: technology to them was something different. It was being able

36:15 Speaker 1: to manipulate the world around you without the use of

36:19 Speaker 1: anything that was metal. Right. That's why I don't find

36:22 Speaker 1: any evidence of it, because it was all these things

36:25 Speaker 1: that they were able to do through their body.

36:29 Speaker 2: Yes, they had the ability. People in the past had

36:34 Speaker 2: the ability to do a lot of things that we

36:37 Speaker 2: cannot imagine. They could perform magic that we can imagine,

36:43 Speaker 2: like some of the members of the Secret Societies can do.

36:46 Speaker 2: And they had the technology of uh Antich gravity, so

36:51 Speaker 2: they were able to lift the huge stones up to

36:54 Speaker 2: the middle of the air using a different vibration that

36:57 Speaker 2: can neutralize gravity. And this us how they feel the

37:00 Speaker 2: Great Pyramid of Egypt with.

37:02 Speaker 1: Sound right, sound to yes, sound, frequency and vibration yes,

37:13 Speaker 1: so and and and again. I think that is becoming

37:19 Speaker 1: more and more people are opening up to that idea

37:22 Speaker 1: as well now, and we're seeing you know, people talk

37:27 Speaker 1: about this and and papers you know being written about it.

37:30 Speaker 1: So about how sound could potentially be used sound vibration

37:36 Speaker 1: and what we just talked about. So the ancients like,

37:41 Speaker 1: it seems we've lost something that our ancestors had. And

37:48 Speaker 1: could these stories of Jesus Christ or you know Merlin, uh,

37:54 Speaker 1: you know King Arthur, like, could they could these legends

37:57 Speaker 1: be more based in reality than we think.

38:01 Speaker 2: There was Jesus and Christ in the past, and there

38:05 Speaker 2: were historical events that really happened. But we also have

38:09 Speaker 2: to keep in mind that there are two great resets

38:13 Speaker 2: in the human history on Earth in which great civilizations

38:17 Speaker 2: were lost. The first great reset was one point three

38:21 Speaker 2: two million years ago when an arid hit Earth has

38:25 Speaker 2: sided into three parts. The first part, according to the book,

38:29 Speaker 2: hit was now today's the Red Sea area, and the

38:33 Speaker 2: second part hit what was now today's is Timer area,

38:36 Speaker 2: and the third part was hit what was now today's

38:39 Speaker 2: the Galapagas Islands area. So that's the first great rest.

38:43 Speaker 2: All the civilizations were lost and people began became carnivals,

38:48 Speaker 2: eating each other, and it's a very sad story. And

38:52 Speaker 2: then there's a group of people who came from a

38:54 Speaker 2: different planet and landed on a continent that existed in

38:58 Speaker 2: the Pacific ocean called the li Muria, and also there

39:02 Speaker 2: was another continent called the Atlantis and established a great

39:06 Speaker 2: civil edition over there. But the content about the Muria

39:09 Speaker 2: sunk into the ocean about the fourteen thousand five years ago.

39:14 Speaker 2: So that's another great reset. So we have to know

39:17 Speaker 2: that we had a great civil edition that's earth.

39:23 Speaker 1: So so how many years ago was that last one?

39:26 Speaker 2: Fourteen thousand five years ago?

39:29 Speaker 1: So would that would that line up with the younger

39:32 Speaker 1: dryest period?

39:34 Speaker 2: Yeah?

39:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, So okay, so that you know, Graham Hancock talks

39:41 Speaker 1: about this, and uh, there was there's you know, we

39:45 Speaker 1: see in a lot of organized religion that when when

39:50 Speaker 1: this flood happened, this great reset, that there was always

39:56 Speaker 1: uh someone who came and re taught civilization, uh like

40:01 Speaker 1: que se Quattle uh in this in South America. So

40:07 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just striking that, like I said, uh,

40:12 Speaker 1: Michelle de Marque, a farmer before the Internet age, is

40:18 Speaker 1: talking about all this stuff and these deep, deep concepts philosophically, Uh,

40:24 Speaker 1: I mean the implications are just the ramifications are tremendous.

40:29 Speaker 1: So I mean, what is your goal with the Deuba prophecy?

40:37 Speaker 1: You know, what is the current relevance in light of

40:40 Speaker 1: you know, recent global events, you know, such as climate

40:43 Speaker 1: crisis and technological advancements.

40:46 Speaker 2: To change the future for the better, because the past

40:50 Speaker 2: is fixed, but the future is changeable depending on our

40:52 Speaker 2: collective consciousness. We have to act in a very concerted fashion,

40:57 Speaker 2: using non violent resistance to against the tyrannies in the world.

41:03 Speaker 2: And it really requires a lot of efforts, international effort,

41:07 Speaker 2: so that people can have the knowledge kept by the government,

41:12 Speaker 2: by the people who have agendas, so that we can

41:16 Speaker 2: really look inside for answers and act in a collective

41:20 Speaker 2: fashion against the monte corporations and the international corporations. And

41:26 Speaker 2: I think that's my goal in the future.

41:29 Speaker 1: Right, you said you were going to Germany.

41:36 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to Germany in October to meet with

41:40 Speaker 2: people who were associated with the secret society what some

41:46 Speaker 2: people would call the Iluminati.

41:48 Speaker 1: Oh well, like yeah, well after again, we'll probably keep

41:54 Speaker 1: that part of air. But I'd love to talk to

41:57 Speaker 1: you about that. And you know it. So the fundamentals,

42:05 Speaker 1: it seems that we as a human species need to

42:09 Speaker 1: find balance, and we need to find a way forward

42:14 Speaker 1: that is peaceful and is loving and and but I

42:20 Speaker 1: look around and I see all these all this tension.

42:24 Speaker 1: So you know, how how how do we bridge the gap?

42:30 Speaker 2: It requires knowledge, knowledge of the secrets kept. We should

42:35 Speaker 2: follow the teachings of Christ, which is to love, to forgive,

42:40 Speaker 2: to be humble, to relate God on our own, to

42:43 Speaker 2: be seekers of knowledge, and to grow spiritually. And we

42:47 Speaker 2: should really follow the teachings of Christ and to make

42:51 Speaker 2: a fulfilling life, and and also to tell each other

42:55 Speaker 2: the meaning of life, and to how to respond to

42:58 Speaker 2: the challenges that we face in our lifetime. And I

43:05 Speaker 2: know that the most important thing is to look inside

43:08 Speaker 2: for answers, for the Kingdom of God is within you

43:12 Speaker 2: right right.

43:13 Speaker 1: And and the book what I love about this I

43:18 Speaker 1: really do. And what I love about this book is

43:21 Speaker 1: again it So the book attempts to analyze the universe

43:26 Speaker 1: from a metaphysical perspective. How do you believe this perspective

43:31 Speaker 1: can can contribute to our understanding of our place in

43:35 Speaker 1: the universe, especially in light of recent discoveries that in

43:40 Speaker 1: s place exploration. And you know what we talked about potential.

43:45 Speaker 1: You know now that James Webb telescope, something may be

43:48 Speaker 1: coming this way. It's course corrected. We're being told that

43:53 Speaker 1: Congress is being briefed about it. So, you know, how

43:57 Speaker 1: do we analyze the universe from a metaph physical perspective?

44:03 Speaker 2: I think the universe is one and everything is created

44:07 Speaker 2: by the pure spirit, and we are all connected spiritually,

44:12 Speaker 2: So it really doesn't matter if you're a Caucasian or Black,

44:16 Speaker 2: or Hebrew or Jewish person. It really doesn't matter. It's

44:20 Speaker 2: just that we are all the same. We all have

44:23 Speaker 2: this spirit of God or sparklings of divinity. So we

44:28 Speaker 2: are one family and we need to coexist peacefully. And

44:34 Speaker 2: the wars created in the world are actually the result

44:39 Speaker 2: of the military industrial complex or a small group of

44:43 Speaker 2: people who really need to serve their shareholders. You know,

44:47 Speaker 2: if they are no wars, they don't sell arms.

44:51 Speaker 1: Right, And isn't it weird how like guys pay attention.

44:56 Speaker 1: Isn't it weird how the same people people that have

45:00 Speaker 1: the contracts to blow the places up also somehow bid

45:06 Speaker 1: and win the contract to clean it up when it's done.

45:10 Speaker 1: Do you think they have an incentive? I mean, it's

45:14 Speaker 1: it's so clear that we are being manipulated, like sam

45:18 Speaker 1: and the think of a prophecy goes into a lot

45:20 Speaker 1: of this and in this in this illusion that we

45:24 Speaker 1: that that that seems to be being uh, the wool

45:30 Speaker 1: over our eyes.

45:33 Speaker 2: Exactly. So I translated a different book called three hundred

45:39 Speaker 2: and thirty four Lives written by the former heighst Thegreature

45:42 Speaker 2: of the Illuminati, And when you read the book, you're

45:47 Speaker 2: gonna see the attitude of the author. When he was

45:52 Speaker 2: a chairman of the Illuminati, he really looked down on

45:55 Speaker 2: the people, saying that the people are ignorant, they don't

45:59 Speaker 2: look what's happening around them. So, being this share of

46:04 Speaker 2: the secret society, he had the ability or psychic powers

46:10 Speaker 2: to know what happened in the past and what's likely

46:14 Speaker 2: going to have in the future. But he also disclosed

46:18 Speaker 2: what they feared most. The most they fear the disclosure

46:23 Speaker 2: the power of the public, indicating that no matter how

46:26 Speaker 2: strong their psychic powers are, they are afraid of the

46:30 Speaker 2: power of the collective consciousness. So this is why I've

46:35 Speaker 2: been trying to promote the messages in the two books

46:38 Speaker 2: Few a Prophecy and two hundred and thirty four Lives,

46:41 Speaker 2: in order to wake people up so that people can

46:43 Speaker 2: have the knowledge and to make the right decisions in

46:47 Speaker 2: the future, so that a better future.

46:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, not just not not to make the right decisions

46:54 Speaker 1: because you know it'll get you gain or you'll gain

46:58 Speaker 1: from it, but to make the right decision because it's

47:02 Speaker 1: the right decision right now. Unconditionally, we need to change

47:11 Speaker 1: because we cannot live in a world that teeters on

47:16 Speaker 1: something that's acronym mad mutually assured destruction. How can we

47:25 Speaker 1: as a as a human society call ourselves advanced when

47:29 Speaker 1: the only thing that's hanging between us in a nuclear

47:33 Speaker 1: apocalypse is one miscalculation? How? How? And and and that

47:43 Speaker 1: threat I think keeps a lot of people up at night.

47:47 Speaker 1: I mean we Joe Rogan talks about it, how the

47:52 Speaker 1: threat of nuclear arm again and keeps them up at night. Uh,

47:56 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on it? And how is this book?

47:59 Speaker 1: You know it informed you on the future of the

48:07 Speaker 1: human race?

48:08 Speaker 2: Well, the book is titled the Theoba Prophecy. It actually

48:13 Speaker 2: says that if it don't change now, we're going to

48:17 Speaker 2: be heading catastrophe in the future. So this is why

48:20 Speaker 2: they took michell Mark to their planet, instructing him to

48:25 Speaker 2: write a book to warn us the real dangers on

48:28 Speaker 2: Earth so that we can make the right decisions and

48:30 Speaker 2: make the change. At this critical moment of time in

48:34 Speaker 2: human history, not just the history of the US or

48:38 Speaker 2: China or Japan, the history of mankind. So we have

48:43 Speaker 2: to really have the knowledge to empower us, because knowledge

48:47 Speaker 2: is power. So what we need to do is to

48:50 Speaker 2: really get a book and read about it, and read

48:54 Speaker 2: about the secrets kept by the government or the secret societies,

48:58 Speaker 2: and to empowers us through knowledge and to have this

49:04 Speaker 2: kind of collective action using non violent resistance, and to

49:09 Speaker 2: have a strike or maybe just use some kind of

49:13 Speaker 2: other methods to rest up against tyrannies of the world.

49:18 Speaker 1: I've kind of said that better myself. I really couldn't. So,

49:25 Speaker 1: you know what, when are there? I think people I

49:32 Speaker 1: want to know, was are there good and bad?

49:40 Speaker 3: Uh?

49:40 Speaker 1: Extraterrestrial civilizations? Because it seems that uh, this this group

49:48 Speaker 1: or or these families that you speak of. We hear

49:52 Speaker 1: a lot about how people don't want to look for

49:56 Speaker 1: ET or don't want to dabble in it because they

49:58 Speaker 1: think it's where we're where we're gonna let the demons

50:02 Speaker 1: out of the box.

50:04 Speaker 3: Uh.

50:04 Speaker 1: And then and they do it for literally fundamental religious reasons.

50:10 Speaker 1: They hold us back from advancement because they're afraid of Uh,

50:16 Speaker 1: angels and demons uh. And you know what do you

50:21 Speaker 1: have to say that?

50:23 Speaker 2: Well, I would say they're developed ET civilizations and less

50:30 Speaker 2: developed ET civilizations, and unfortunately people on Earth belong to

50:35 Speaker 2: the latter. We are not as developed spiritually as we

50:39 Speaker 2: would think that are. And when the chelt Marque communicated

50:46 Speaker 2: with the ets from Theoba, he was told that, you know,

50:51 Speaker 2: if we try to go on the Moon again, we

50:54 Speaker 2: would be prevented because we are not ready spiritually, because

50:59 Speaker 2: we would other planets. So this is why fifty years

51:03 Speaker 2: ago we went to the Moon, but we have never

51:06 Speaker 2: gone back, even though the cost is much lower. Because

51:10 Speaker 2: if you think about this, if you see two groups

51:13 Speaker 2: of gorillas in a zoo fighting against each other, would

51:17 Speaker 2: you really want to invite them to your beautiful mention

51:20 Speaker 2: and make a mess. You wouldn't because they're still fighting

51:23 Speaker 2: against themselves. We are having so many wars on Earth

51:27 Speaker 2: right now. Are we ready to explore the universe?

51:31 Speaker 1: So we are not, because Elon Musk says yes, So

51:37 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when we try to bring So do

51:42 Speaker 1: you think that do you think that we were told

51:45 Speaker 1: not to come back to the moon.

51:47 Speaker 2: Yes, we were told, Yes, we were warned off from

51:50 Speaker 2: the Moon. And actually, you know similarly, that's crazy.

51:56 Speaker 1: I again, I'm so sorry I'm interrupting you. But it's

52:01 Speaker 1: like a synchronicity because the thing I was watching right

52:05 Speaker 1: before this was uh, like about moon bases and stuff

52:09 Speaker 1: like that. So uh and and and it was showing

52:16 Speaker 1: evidence that Lance and Buzz basically had said and multiple

52:23 Speaker 1: times story missions like they're they're parked on the creator

52:26 Speaker 1: watching us, right, like they're literally just watching us. So

52:31 Speaker 1: and then there's you know, obviously the images of the

52:34 Speaker 1: structures and all this other stuff on the Moon that that,

52:38 Speaker 1: I mean, the evidence adds up and you're like, ah,

52:42 Speaker 1: there's something on the moon. So you think we were

52:46 Speaker 1: literally told like listen, you can't come back here.

52:50 Speaker 2: I'm cut, you're ready, and we are.

52:54 Speaker 1: So what would happen?

52:56 Speaker 2: They would prevent us from going to the Moon again,

53:00 Speaker 2: they would cause any failures or something like that. And actually,

53:05 Speaker 2: by the same token, they would prevent other less developed

53:09 Speaker 2: ety civilizationions from coming to Earth and to contaminate us.

53:14 Speaker 2: So this is why it goes.

53:18 Speaker 1: So it's a guardian. It's a guardian. It's like a parent,

53:22 Speaker 1: you know, exactly, So are they are there. They're not

53:28 Speaker 1: responsible for us exactly, but they do. They see us

53:33 Speaker 1: as you know, they're they're duty to protect us.

53:41 Speaker 2: They're guiding us and mentoring us directly, uh indirectly. They

53:46 Speaker 2: did several times in the Fast in the past by

53:50 Speaker 2: directly intervening our actions and causing certain events to happen.

53:56 Speaker 2: But right now they're watching us and trying to giving

54:00 Speaker 2: us an environment for us to grow ourselves. I'll give

54:03 Speaker 2: you an example. If you're a very good parent trying

54:07 Speaker 2: to teach your son a mathematical problem, you would guide

54:11 Speaker 2: your son, guide him and to solve the problem on

54:14 Speaker 2: his own. You wouldn't just give the answer to him directly,

54:18 Speaker 2: otherwise he wouldn't have learned anything. And similarly, I'll give

54:21 Speaker 2: you another story. A biologist went to Mexico and solve

54:26 Speaker 2: this very rare species of the butterfly trying to come

54:31 Speaker 2: out of the cocoon, struggling, trying to come out. Being

54:35 Speaker 2: a very compassionate person, he opened the cocoon up so

54:38 Speaker 2: the butterfly came out. But there's just one thing. The

54:42 Speaker 2: butterfly couldn't fly. In fact, the butterfly had to go

54:46 Speaker 2: through the struggling process itself in order to be able

54:49 Speaker 2: to fly. Similarly, we people on Earth have to go

54:53 Speaker 2: through the struggling process of our own. You do survive

54:56 Speaker 2: for the long term on Earth.

54:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, that butterfly, that that comparison, that is such a

55:09 Speaker 1: I mean that that almost take take. That took me

55:11 Speaker 1: back a little bit, because you're right. Without the struggle,

55:18 Speaker 1: that they don't gain the strength to be able to

55:21 Speaker 1: fly because they didn't have to claw their way. And

55:25 Speaker 1: so it's the struggle is part of the experience, it's

55:31 Speaker 1: part of the development. So I mean, when when do

55:38 Speaker 1: they intervene? Because it seems we're we're I mean, God forbid,

55:46 Speaker 1: and I say that with all intent, God forbid. China

55:50 Speaker 1: invades Taiwan and we have a third conflict. We are

55:56 Speaker 1: in real danger. So it looks like we're headed down

56:04 Speaker 1: a weird path. You know, how has this book changed

56:08 Speaker 1: your outlook on the geo political sphere right now and

56:13 Speaker 1: the tensions that a rising.

56:16 Speaker 2: Well, it actually changed my life because I learned about

56:19 Speaker 2: the secret kept by the ets in the book. In

56:22 Speaker 2: the PostScript of the book, it says they're far more

56:25 Speaker 2: incredible things that the author was not allowed to write

56:28 Speaker 2: about because peop were far from understanding them. So this

56:31 Speaker 2: is the reason I went on trip to Vietnam to

56:34 Speaker 2: meet the author, hoping that he could tell me that

56:37 Speaker 2: one secret he wasn't allowed to write in a book.

56:40 Speaker 2: So back in twenty sixteen, I spent two thousand dollars

56:45 Speaker 2: of my own Being a very frugal person, two thousand

56:49 Speaker 2: dollars was a lot to me, and I flew to

56:51 Speaker 2: Vietnam without knowing his exact address. I grabbed a picture

56:56 Speaker 2: on the Internet showing his bungalow and I showed that

57:00 Speaker 2: sure that I printed out to the local taxi driver

57:04 Speaker 2: after I landed in the airport and asking him to

57:07 Speaker 2: take me there, and he took me right to the

57:10 Speaker 2: location after the second try. And so I established a

57:15 Speaker 2: very good relationship with the author and he told me

57:18 Speaker 2: that one thing he couldn't write in a book. And

57:21 Speaker 2: I actually it changed my life, giving me the power

57:25 Speaker 2: and energy to promote the messages in the book, because seriously,

57:30 Speaker 2: we are, you know, very dangerous mode right now. We

57:36 Speaker 2: have to change how we live. We have to change

57:38 Speaker 2: the decisions that we were going to make in the

57:40 Speaker 2: future so that we are going to have a better

57:42 Speaker 2: future in the future. And I think it's important for

57:48 Speaker 2: people to empower themselves this knowledge and so that they

57:52 Speaker 2: can make the right decisions in the future.

57:55 Speaker 1: So what you're saying and insummation, there is this group

58:04 Speaker 1: of people and we all know it, like we all

58:08 Speaker 1: know that, you know, people are more concerned with what

58:13 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian is wearing to the met gala than if

58:16 Speaker 1: a UFO were to drop down and be seen in

58:21 Speaker 1: clear daylight. Like I truly am convinced that that would

58:24 Speaker 1: be in and out of the news. I'm convinced that

58:31 Speaker 1: it wouldn't even phase people. Things like the Brookings report

58:37 Speaker 1: told told the higher ups that disclosure would cause chaos.

58:48 Speaker 1: Do you think that that would be true?

58:51 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think the disclosure of ets or aliens

58:56 Speaker 2: would cause chaos because most people are ready for the message.

59:01 Speaker 2: But I would think that the people need to have

59:04 Speaker 2: the need to know of more things that the government

59:08 Speaker 2: doesn't want us to know. And I think the book

59:10 Speaker 2: Theoba Prophecy contains the secrets kept. But this group of people,

59:16 Speaker 2: and I don't think it's going to cause chaos. And

59:18 Speaker 2: actually people become liberated and the people who were going

59:24 Speaker 2: to commit suicide change their minds after reading the book

59:28 Speaker 2: and have more inspirational life in the future. So I

59:31 Speaker 2: think this book is a lifesaver and it's actually the

59:35 Speaker 2: most important book that ever found in my entire life.

59:42 Speaker 2: You're on mute.

59:45 Speaker 1: Do you think that you had to go on that

59:47 Speaker 1: struggle to find him? Just like the butterfly at the

59:54 Speaker 1: struggle and you know, like you said, it is two

59:59 Speaker 1: dollar there's a lot of money to just spend and

1:00:03 Speaker 1: not know if you're gonna get what you need. That

1:00:09 Speaker 1: struggle for you, it's almost like the butterfly. Do you

1:00:12 Speaker 1: think that you were almost selected to carry on the

1:00:17 Speaker 1: message after the author left this plane of existence.

1:00:23 Speaker 2: I think they probably chose me because I also speak

1:00:27 Speaker 2: Chinese and Spanish, so they know that it's going to

1:00:31 Speaker 2: be like a more international effort that we have to make,

1:00:35 Speaker 2: not just the movement in the US, but the global movement.

1:00:38 Speaker 2: And this is what I've been trying to do, to

1:00:41 Speaker 2: pass the messages to the people in the circle and

1:00:44 Speaker 2: outside of the circle. There are people who believing in ets,

1:00:48 Speaker 2: there are people who don't. I'm trying to do both.

1:00:51 Speaker 2: So my next step is to promote the messages to

1:00:53 Speaker 2: the people who still rely on the mainstream media who

1:00:57 Speaker 2: are not quite avacant yet. So it's going to be

1:01:01 Speaker 2: a long journey for me.

1:01:03 Speaker 1: Well, I think the journey will be one that and again,

1:01:08 Speaker 1: you know it, we all find our way to this

1:01:14 Speaker 1: community somehow, and it's like everyone has their own mission.

1:01:18 Speaker 1: And I think if more people like you said, woke

1:01:21 Speaker 1: to that that idea that we all have a part

1:01:24 Speaker 1: to play. And the thing that's dividing us the most

1:01:29 Speaker 1: is the factionalism. It's these fake lines that we draw

1:01:34 Speaker 1: on the sand, right the team we have to be

1:01:39 Speaker 1: on a team like Republican or like Democrat or this

1:01:44 Speaker 1: or that. Loue Alzando, you either you know with them

1:01:48 Speaker 1: or you're against them. You know. That is our biggest enemy,

1:01:52 Speaker 1: is factionalism exactly.

1:01:56 Speaker 2: The former chair of the Ilumnati says that the moto

1:02:00 Speaker 2: of the organization is to divide and rule. So they're

1:02:03 Speaker 2: dividing us. They were supporting KKK in the nineteen sixties

1:02:07 Speaker 2: at the same time supporting the anti racism movement, so

1:02:11 Speaker 2: they were on both sides trying to create conflicts and divisions.

1:02:15 Speaker 2: And this is what's happening right now as we see.

1:02:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Russian troll farms literally use that same tactic

1:02:23 Speaker 1: by setting up rallies, you know, like anti abortion rallies

1:02:31 Speaker 1: right across the street from pro pro life rallies, and

1:02:37 Speaker 1: you know, right across the street from each other. They

1:02:39 Speaker 1: would set them up and riots would break out. You know,

1:02:44 Speaker 1: like why do how are people not seeing that we're

1:02:52 Speaker 1: being played like the Wizard of Oz. There's someone that

1:02:58 Speaker 1: is pulling the strings and we you know, most people,

1:03:01 Speaker 1: it's common knowledge that only like eight or thirteen people

1:03:05 Speaker 1: control the world's media.

1:03:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is why people need to have the knowledge

1:03:11 Speaker 2: to know the secrets kept, They need to be secrets

1:03:15 Speaker 2: of knowledge and to really realize that there's more to

1:03:19 Speaker 2: the messages by the mainstream media. They need to look

1:03:23 Speaker 2: inside and also to find out whether what they're being

1:03:26 Speaker 2: told is true or not. So this is why it

1:03:29 Speaker 2: really suggests people to get the two books and to

1:03:32 Speaker 2: have the knowledge, have empowerment and make the right decisions.

1:03:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. Another problem is is that people aren't getting the

1:03:42 Speaker 1: news anymore. They're getting their news, you know what I mean.

1:03:48 Speaker 1: So the algorithm is going to you know, if you

1:03:53 Speaker 1: lean a certain way or you you know, you get

1:03:59 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's going to show you a

1:04:02 Speaker 1: reflection of what you want to see, so you stay

1:04:05 Speaker 1: on the phone on these websites longer, and like you know,

1:04:14 Speaker 1: the very technology that connects us all, it also divides

1:04:18 Speaker 1: us so so much, and we need to be careful

1:04:24 Speaker 1: when playing with it because you know, the internet is

1:04:28 Speaker 1: it's that people don't like to think it's a real place,

1:04:31 Speaker 1: but there are real consequences.

1:04:35 Speaker 2: Yes, and people need to have an open mind and

1:04:39 Speaker 2: be open to different perspectives. This is why what I'm

1:04:43 Speaker 2: trying to do is to break into different circles, breaking

1:04:46 Speaker 2: too different industries and to promote such messages of the

1:04:53 Speaker 2: teachings of Christ and also reincarnation to different groups of people,

1:04:57 Speaker 2: so that people can realize there are different perspective if

1:05:00 Speaker 2: in life then they should pay attention to.

1:05:02 Speaker 1: Do you worry about being called a heretic?

1:05:06 Speaker 2: No, I don't. Actually, you know, I have certain credentials.

1:05:09 Speaker 2: I also have a gay D degree, being a Certify

1:05:13 Speaker 2: Court interpreter, of working with lawyers and doctors and I

1:05:16 Speaker 2: need to present evidence to them. But for people who

1:05:20 Speaker 2: to believe us.

1:05:21 Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love that because you know people, you know,

1:05:30 Speaker 1: when when you start talking about this kind of stuff,

1:05:35 Speaker 1: people do attack and you know, you need to be

1:05:39 Speaker 1: ready for that and and to just just brush it

1:05:43 Speaker 1: off because I think, like I said, I think this

1:05:47 Speaker 1: book just like all books. You know, I wasn't there,

1:05:51 Speaker 1: I didn't experience it, So what I take from it

1:05:54 Speaker 1: is the moral lessons that are trying to be taught

1:05:58 Speaker 1: and the morality of the deuber prophecy. I highly recommend

1:06:02 Speaker 1: everyone read it because there are those just like the

1:06:05 Speaker 1: Bible itself or any other book. You know, you can

1:06:11 Speaker 1: you you get certain things out of out of it.

1:06:14 Speaker 1: You know, you you ask yourself certain questions, you pick

1:06:18 Speaker 1: up on the themes and the tones, and you know,

1:06:21 Speaker 1: the author does a good job of making you ponder

1:06:24 Speaker 1: things and having you come to your own conclusion at

1:06:28 Speaker 1: you know, and seeing past the veil, beyond the veil,

1:06:32 Speaker 1: the veil that these these this secret group wants us

1:06:38 Speaker 1: to see right They want us to watch the left

1:06:40 Speaker 1: hand and not see the right hand.

1:06:44 Speaker 2: Exactly. So, I think it's really important for the audience

1:06:48 Speaker 2: to get a book to empower themselves this knowledge, because

1:06:52 Speaker 2: the book contains specific, verifiable facts that can save their lives.

1:06:57 Speaker 2: Literally speaking, many people's lives were saved after reading the book.

1:07:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want to end with, you know, the

1:07:06 Speaker 1: book received, you know varied responses. You know, what are

1:07:12 Speaker 1: the common criticisms that you've encountered, and how do you

1:07:17 Speaker 1: address them in your discussions and how will you just

1:07:22 Speaker 1: how will you discuss them about the text when you

1:07:25 Speaker 1: do your presentations.

1:07:28 Speaker 2: Well, about the ten percent of the people believe the

1:07:30 Speaker 2: book is science fiction. And it's okay to believe that

1:07:35 Speaker 2: this is a made up story, but the details still

1:07:39 Speaker 2: have value. It's just like the Bible. I didn't believe

1:07:42 Speaker 2: anything within the Bible before I came here, or even

1:07:46 Speaker 2: for a long time after, until read the book theol

1:07:49 Speaker 2: About Prophecy. It's the book fel About Prophecy that made

1:07:53 Speaker 2: me believe that we should follow the teachings of Christ.

1:07:57 Speaker 2: I really didn't believe the miracles by Christ that this

1:08:01 Speaker 2: book explains the reason why Christ performed the miracles and

1:08:05 Speaker 2: how that happened. So this book is a fielba prophecy

1:08:09 Speaker 2: on wills the mysteries of the events that occurred in

1:08:12 Speaker 2: the Bible or documented in the Bible. At the same

1:08:16 Speaker 2: time also teach us very valuable spiritual lessons.

1:08:21 Speaker 1: Right, So it not only informs you of the past,

1:08:25 Speaker 1: but it educates you about how to go about the future,

1:08:29 Speaker 1: and that I think it's a very valuable tool. And

1:08:33 Speaker 1: it's almost like it supplements the Bible in a way,

1:08:38 Speaker 1: you know, in certain aspects. Again, we need to be

1:08:41 Speaker 1: careful with organized religion because again there's there's narrative, there's money,

1:08:48 Speaker 1: there's power, there's greed. You know, I'm from Boston, where

1:08:52 Speaker 1: you know that the church was exposed for very very

1:08:59 Speaker 1: bad things, like things that we can't say because we'll

1:09:02 Speaker 1: get kicked off YouTube. You know, the the Little Boy's

1:09:08 Speaker 1: scandal that the Boston Globe uncovered. You know, these are

1:09:12 Speaker 1: people from the church, right, So these are men, these

1:09:17 Speaker 1: are human beings that are susceptible to the temptation. Right.

1:09:26 Speaker 1: And you know, I think, do you think some people

1:09:32 Speaker 1: are chosen?

1:09:34 Speaker 2: I do believe people have their own path and they

1:09:39 Speaker 2: were chosen for one reason or another. I do believe that, yes.

1:09:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it seems that that d. Marque was

1:09:46 Speaker 1: selected to tell this story for a certain reason. So

1:09:51 Speaker 1: you know, I just think, like I said, the Tower

1:09:53 Speaker 1: of Babbel, right is and other teachings we need to

1:09:59 Speaker 1: learn from. The pas asked, you know, the Big Bang,

1:10:04 Speaker 1: the the the Bible, says God said, let there be light.

1:10:10 Speaker 1: Those sound like the same thing to me. Those they're

1:10:14 Speaker 1: really just in a different context, you know, they sound

1:10:18 Speaker 1: like the same exact thing to me. One last thing

1:10:22 Speaker 1: I did want to talk to you about in this

1:10:23 Speaker 1: little off center was did you see the Terrence Howard

1:10:27 Speaker 1: stuff on Rogan?

1:10:30 Speaker 2: Yes? I did.

1:10:31 Speaker 1: What was your take on all that?

1:10:35 Speaker 2: I'm pretty uh, I don't matter turns toward and uh.

1:10:40 Speaker 2: And I believe that he has a lot of validity.

1:10:44 Speaker 2: And I think his ideas should be respected and researched

1:10:48 Speaker 2: and more into. And I do believe that there's the

1:10:51 Speaker 2: logic and behind what he was woman relating and envisioned.

1:10:58 Speaker 2: And I think the more scientist and more studies should

1:11:02 Speaker 2: look into what he published.

1:11:04 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, do you think there's any chance of

1:11:07 Speaker 1: a fractal universe like that?

1:11:10 Speaker 2: Yes? I believe the universe is not only holographic but

1:11:15 Speaker 2: also fractal.

1:11:16 Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's a whole conversation. There's a whole

1:11:19 Speaker 1: lot of two hours you could spend just on that.

1:11:22 Speaker 1: But I I really always enjoy having you on the show, Samuel.

1:11:27 Speaker 1: Would you have anything coming up that you want to

1:11:29 Speaker 1: talk about?

1:11:32 Speaker 2: Yes, if you would like me to become a speaker.

1:11:36 Speaker 2: I'd like to go to the different events and to

1:11:39 Speaker 2: morow the messages of love and spirituality and also the

1:11:43 Speaker 2: secrets kept by different organizations or religions. It's going to

1:11:48 Speaker 2: be a very interesting experience for your audience. So if

1:11:51 Speaker 2: anyone wants me to go on to your platform or

1:11:55 Speaker 2: your events, please let me know and contact me.

1:11:58 Speaker 1: Well, I'd love to love set that up and get something.

1:12:02 Speaker 1: Get you onto one of these uh ufo Twitter Week presentations,

1:12:09 Speaker 1: and that's actually happening uh this week, so maybe for

1:12:14 Speaker 1: the next one. So, uh, you've been an amazing guest.

1:12:19 Speaker 1: People can follow you on Facebook. Are you on Twitter

1:12:23 Speaker 1: as well?

1:12:24 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, So what is your handle on x

1:12:30 Speaker 2: Good Translator? What is it good translator?

1:12:36 Speaker 1: So x at Good Translator and then Facebook you're just

1:12:43 Speaker 1: Samuel Chung. Yes, all right, Samuel. As always, it's been

1:12:50 Speaker 1: a hell of a time and you always bring the heat,

1:12:53 Speaker 1: so it was it was so fun to have a

1:12:55 Speaker 1: conversation with you again. And here's too many more intention in.

1:13:06 Speaker 3: Educating an intent and at