Whitley Strieber on Alien Contact, Physical Evidence & the Case for Congressional Action

0:10 Speaker 1: All right, So I am here. I'm the host of

0:12 Speaker 1: Total Disclosure. We're in DC for our continued coverage. I'm

0:15 Speaker 1: sitting here with the man. Communion was the first book

0:21 Speaker 1: that my mom ever handed me after I had my

0:23 Speaker 1: own sighting. It sent me down the rabbit hole. You've

0:27 Speaker 1: inspired me, You've inspired so many, Whitley, How are you doing.

0:33 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing good, thank you? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And

0:36 Speaker 2: it's just been an exciting, extraordinary day. I think that

0:41 Speaker 2: James Fox has accomplished a tremendous.

0:45 Speaker 3: Thing here and I'm very, very glad to be here.

0:51 Speaker 1: How does it feel for you as an experiencer? What

0:54 Speaker 1: are some of the next steps that you think, you know,

0:56 Speaker 1: members of Congress need to take to get these people

0:59 Speaker 1: like your self who've had this continued contact with this.

1:05 Speaker 2: Members of Congress and the rest of the government need

1:09 Speaker 2: to face the fact that they're not just flying around

1:15 Speaker 2: and looking down on us. They are, of course here

1:19 Speaker 2: in our lives, and a lot of people not only

1:23 Speaker 2: are they in our lives.

1:25 Speaker 3: We're getting kind of good at dealing with that.

1:28 Speaker 2: Contact is evolving and it's not crazy or too far out,

1:36 Speaker 2: but I think that the Congress needs to begin to

1:41 Speaker 2: take a clear headed, careful look at it. There are

1:48 Speaker 2: problems with this, which the primary one is there has

1:52 Speaker 2: not been enough real solid neurological research into this phenomenon

1:58 Speaker 2: and how it affects people for us to really be

2:01 Speaker 2: able to say, well, this is imaginary and this really

2:06 Speaker 2: happened to this person, and you're not going to sort

2:09 Speaker 2: that out on a committee in a congressional committee meeting,

2:15 Speaker 2: but we do need.

2:16 Speaker 3: To sort that out.

2:19 Speaker 2: I'm working on a foundation right now that will be

2:22 Speaker 2: primarily oriented toward understanding from a biological and neurological standpoint,

2:30 Speaker 2: what is happening to these close encounter witnesses, and that

2:34 Speaker 2: will be a good grounding.

2:37 Speaker 3: For serious exploration in Congress. Prior to that, they need

2:43 Speaker 3: to dip into.

2:43 Speaker 2: This to at least hear from a few witnesses, probably

2:48 Speaker 2: not necessarily in a public setting, yet to hear get

2:52 Speaker 2: a flavor of what they are saying they had in

2:56 Speaker 2: terms of experience, people like let's see Terry Lovelace, meet

3:06 Speaker 2: Terry Lovelace, possibly Chris Bledsoe. There are a lot of

3:11 Speaker 2: people out there in the public space already who are

3:14 Speaker 2: very articulate and have different, different stories to tell. Those

3:20 Speaker 2: people should maybe come together, be engaged with by Congress

3:24 Speaker 2: in some way, and then at the same time, hopefully

3:30 Speaker 2: we'll get the money together to really dig into the

3:34 Speaker 2: biology and the neurology of this, so we can see

3:37 Speaker 2: what is going on in the brain and body of

3:40 Speaker 2: these people.

3:41 Speaker 1: Well, I think one of the most interesting aspects of

3:45 Speaker 1: saying you in particular not just communion the story, but

3:52 Speaker 1: you have physical evidence.

3:54 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's living in my ear, and there's a

3:58 Speaker 2: video that shows conclusively that it's the normallest object.

4:02 Speaker 3: And if I'm.

4:04 Speaker 1: Mistaken, correct me. But when they went to remove it,

4:07 Speaker 1: it evaded.

4:08 Speaker 3: It evaded the doctor.

4:10 Speaker 2: The doctor describes it, he experiences and describes its movement

4:16 Speaker 2: from here down into my ear lobe, and he closes

4:19 Speaker 2: the the incision, all on video. Therefore, it's proof positive

4:25 Speaker 2: that this is the normalous object. It came back up,

4:29 Speaker 2: by the way after a few days, and it hurt

4:32 Speaker 2: like hell when it did too. But the point is this,

4:35 Speaker 2: that's proof that in the normalous object was placed into

4:39 Speaker 2: the ear of a human being and that they are

4:44 Speaker 2: you said, it helps you communicate, Oh no, it's it's

4:48 Speaker 2: a it's like a research tool. When I'm in a

4:51 Speaker 2: in an interview with a lot of complex things to

4:55 Speaker 2: talk about. It helps me with my memory enormously, and

4:58 Speaker 2: when I'm writing, what it does is it brings up

5:03 Speaker 2: memories that are not at the surface anymore.

5:06 Speaker 3: It draws them up from below and.

5:09 Speaker 2: Incredibly enriches my work because of course, the more you

5:14 Speaker 2: remember about a given subject, the better the ideas and

5:19 Speaker 2: the more clarity you.

5:20 Speaker 3: Can bring to it. Absolutely. Yeah, so that's what it does.

5:23 Speaker 2: It is not a download thing or something meant to

5:27 Speaker 2: control my mind or dominate my mind at all.

5:30 Speaker 3: Not at all.

5:31 Speaker 1: When was roughly I mean that you don't have to

5:34 Speaker 1: give me any dates or anything, but when was the

5:36 Speaker 1: last time that you had an encounter?

5:42 Speaker 2: Like?

5:42 Speaker 3: How often is this stuff? Oh, it happens all the time.

5:46 Speaker 2: The last time I had a physical encounter was about

5:52 Speaker 2: four months ago, and I don't remember much about it.

5:54 Speaker 3: But there is this place on my leg here. Yeah,

5:59 Speaker 3: I can see it. Come in and look at that.

6:01 Speaker 2: This was placed on my leg by the visitors about

6:04 Speaker 2: twenty years ago, and you can see these marks on it.

6:08 Speaker 2: They will come in and insert a needle in there

6:11 Speaker 2: every once in a while and for a few days

6:14 Speaker 2: it's read on the around where the needle was inserted.

6:17 Speaker 3: And it is.

6:18 Speaker 2: They've communicated to me that it's health related and that

6:23 Speaker 2: it helps keep my body strong.

6:26 Speaker 3: Wow, And so I mean.

6:29 Speaker 1: You're I mean, if if there was a zero point

6:35 Speaker 1: zero zero zero one percent chance of what you're saying

6:38 Speaker 1: is true, you are all we need essentially.

6:43 Speaker 2: If yeah, if I get any agency, I'm I'm certainly

6:47 Speaker 2: proof positive that something is here and that the end

6:51 Speaker 2: that they are interested in us physically.

6:54 Speaker 1: Are you I never quite got this from any of

6:57 Speaker 1: the conversations that you've done, and that's not your fault.

7:01 Speaker 1: But are you a Are you a religious man?

7:05 Speaker 2: That's interesting that questions come up quite a number of

7:07 Speaker 2: times today. I wouldn't define myself as a religious man

7:12 Speaker 2: in the sense of following a specific doctrine.

7:16 Speaker 3: I am.

7:17 Speaker 2: I consider myself a Catholic, But you know, Catholic. That's

7:20 Speaker 2: a very complex thing to be a Catholic. You know,

7:22 Speaker 2: not that that doesn't necessarily mean you have to be

7:25 Speaker 2: a strict Catholic. And I'm not a strict Catholic, but

7:29 Speaker 2: I'm basically a believer in the validity of the commune

7:35 Speaker 2: of Communion. Yeah in my book, yeah exactly. But but

7:41 Speaker 2: and of the teachings of Jesus. I wrote a book

7:43 Speaker 2: called Jesus a New Vision, which is about It's basically

7:49 Speaker 2: a book to communicate the value of the teachings of

7:53 Speaker 2: Jesus to people who have abandoned religion and are now

7:56 Speaker 2: in the secular community. Right, And I have really abandoned religion,

8:01 Speaker 2: and I go to Mass occasionally and I'm comfortable with it.

8:04 Speaker 3: I'm not uncomfortable with it at all.

8:06 Speaker 2: I feel the presence of the I feel the presence

8:10 Speaker 2: of of of something when I go to communion, definitely right,

8:16 Speaker 2: And I think, I mean.

8:18 Speaker 1: Has this has this given you a more of a

8:21 Speaker 1: sense of peace with not knowing?

8:26 Speaker 2: That's an interesting question because you know, I live in

8:29 Speaker 2: a world of questions. I live in a world of

8:32 Speaker 2: unanswered questions. I am a living unanswered question. I mean,

8:36 Speaker 2: what does.

8:36 Speaker 3: That really do? What does this really do? Who were they?

8:40 Speaker 3: I'm my body is I'm living proof that they're real?

8:45 Speaker 2: And what does that all mean in the larger sense?

8:50 Speaker 3: Exactly? Should I be afraid? Very afraid?

8:54 Speaker 2: Should I believe the one who said to me early

8:57 Speaker 2: on that you're the luckiest of the lucky? I really

9:00 Speaker 2: come down to this that maybe that was true, and

9:02 Speaker 2: maybe I am damn lucky to.

9:05 Speaker 3: Have ended up where I am.

9:09 Speaker 1: I would love to bring you to Boston, you know,

9:13 Speaker 1: and have a proper sit down, you know, a long

9:16 Speaker 1: form discussion with you podcast. One last question. I know

9:21 Speaker 1: we have a lot to get done here. If tomorrow

9:23 Speaker 1: the President stepped on the podium and said, my fellow Americans,

9:28 Speaker 1: we're not alone. What do you think the next question

9:31 Speaker 1: would be from people to the government.

9:35 Speaker 2: Are we in trouble or not? That would be the

9:37 Speaker 2: next question, And he can't answer that. Yeah, are they

9:41 Speaker 2: dangerous or not? And if they're dangerous, can you do

9:44 Speaker 2: anything about it? The answers would be, I don't know

9:47 Speaker 2: whether or not they're dangerous, and no, we can't do

9:50 Speaker 2: anything about it. And that's why I have a feeling

9:53 Speaker 2: he's not going to be stepping on that podium anytime soon.

9:55 Speaker 2: But then again, the president is now Donald Trump, and

9:58 Speaker 2: you never know what might happen, and he could he

10:00 Speaker 2: could push this out on truth socially at three o'clock

10:03 Speaker 2: some morning, right.

10:04 Speaker 3: Right, just on a on a vet, right right.

10:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I just think that you are a living

10:11 Speaker 1: I think you are one of the most important people

10:13 Speaker 1: in this topic and I think, you know, I really

10:17 Speaker 1: do think that if Congress could take a chance on anybody,

10:21 Speaker 1: they need to bring you in and at least have.

10:23 Speaker 3: You examine it. Yeah, they sure do and.

10:28 Speaker 1: Examined in what sense medical physiological.

10:31 Speaker 3: Look at these implants.

10:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that that could be the thing about the

10:37 Speaker 2: implant is they're very sensitive about it.

10:40 Speaker 3: They don't want it touched again, that was going.

10:44 Speaker 2: The visitors are someone like I was talking to a

10:49 Speaker 2: neurologist about the implant a few weeks ago on Zoom.

10:53 Speaker 2: She was wanting to know, you know, get my story

10:56 Speaker 2: about it. And helicopters circle the building that house the

11:00 Speaker 2: entire time we were having the conversation. And so somebody

11:04 Speaker 2: is very concerned about my talking about the implant. That said,

11:08 Speaker 2: I will as always do it anyway.

11:12 Speaker 1: You're revel with a cause.

11:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to stop.

11:17 Speaker 2: They they if they wanted someone who would stop, they

11:21 Speaker 2: should have chosen another guy, because I have no intention

11:23 Speaker 2: of stopping.

11:26 Speaker 1: Should should we be inherently afraid of the visitors, don't?

11:32 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think we should definitely cut the cards.

11:35 Speaker 2: Uh. We should keep our own counsel and and preserve

11:40 Speaker 2: our agency and our integrity and our separateness. We don't

11:44 Speaker 2: need to go looking at them as gods or saviors

11:48 Speaker 2: or anything. We need to be looking at them as

11:50 Speaker 2: people who are different than us, who have different possibility,

11:54 Speaker 2: different capabilities, and probably different ambitions and needs, but are

11:58 Speaker 2: still people.

12:01 Speaker 3: Whitley, thank you so much. You're well. I would really

12:04 Speaker 3: like I said, I'd love to have a long, long well, yeah,

12:07 Speaker 3: get into you have my I have email? Yeah, where

12:13 Speaker 3: can people?

12:14 Speaker 1: Because I know you have you do your own channel?

12:18 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have a website called unknown Country dot

12:22 Speaker 2: com and we desperately need subscribers, so please do that.

12:26 Speaker 3: Uh.

12:26 Speaker 2: And I have a YouTube channel. I'm on Instagram, Dreamland.

12:32 Speaker 2: Quitley Streaber is YouTube. I'm on TikTok Instagram.

12:38 Speaker 3: I have a.

12:39 Speaker 2: New book coming out which we've discussed I believe, Yeah,

12:43 Speaker 2: Transformation twenty twenty six.

12:45 Speaker 3: So I'm out there.

12:46 Speaker 2: There's lots of ways to get through to me, and

12:48 Speaker 2: you can always write me at Whitleystreaber dot com and

12:51 Speaker 2: I will respond if I can.

12:53 Speaker 1: Yeah.

12:53 Speaker 3: Sorry, So Whitley, thank you so much. Yeah what up?

12:57 Speaker 2: Said John P.

13:02 Speaker 3: Good. Thanks?

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