An Interview With An Alien- EXCLUSIVE (Ft Dale Harder)

0:00 Speaker 1: This is Total Disclosure, hosted by Ty Roberts. Welcome back

0:12 Speaker 1: to Total Disclosure. My name is Ti I am the

0:15 Speaker 1: host of the show Total Disclosure, and today I am

0:18 Speaker 1: going to be attempting something that I never had before.

0:22 Speaker 1: I've been talking with a man who I first came

0:28 Speaker 1: When did I first hear about him? I think I

0:29 Speaker 1: first hurry about him with this So Weird with Patrick,

0:34 Speaker 1: that guy that channel, and yeah, I really sparked my

0:38 Speaker 1: interest and I went out and I was like, I

0:39 Speaker 1: got to talk to this guy. And from there we've

0:43 Speaker 1: kind of We've spoken on the phone many many times

0:45 Speaker 1: at this point, and I have been wanting to do

0:48 Speaker 1: this interview for a while. So tonight we're speaking with

0:52 Speaker 1: a man who claims that he is not who or

0:56 Speaker 1: what he appears to be. A man who claims he

0:59 Speaker 1: carries an implant placed in his body by non human intelligence.

1:03 Speaker 1: A man who insists that he is an extraterrestrial soul

1:06 Speaker 1: incarnated on Earth with a mission. His name is Dale Harder.

1:13 Speaker 1: And what you're about to hear me challenge some of

1:15 Speaker 1: the things that you've known or been taught about human origins,

1:19 Speaker 1: ancient civilizations, and the presence of non human intelligence living

1:24 Speaker 1: among us today. We're not here to do any got

1:26 Speaker 1: your style interview. This is not me trying to debunk

1:31 Speaker 1: or make fun of. This is a conversation meant to

1:35 Speaker 1: help me understand, meant to help humanity understand. Because if

1:39 Speaker 1: there is even a zero point zero zero zero one

1:43 Speaker 1: percent chance that what he is telling us is true,

1:46 Speaker 1: than the implication's tremendous. So who is Dale Harder? Where

1:51 Speaker 1: does he come from? And what does he know about us?

1:56 Speaker 1: That's what we're about to find out. And I'm excited.

1:59 Speaker 1: So would that being said, let's introduced my friend Dale.

2:04 Speaker 1: How you doing, Hi?

2:05 Speaker 2: Ty? How are you good?

2:06 Speaker 3: Decision?

2:08 Speaker 1: Very good to see you. I think I think we've

2:10 Speaker 1: I've amassed probably ten eleven hours on the phone, and

2:15 Speaker 1: in that time, you know I again, I think the

2:17 Speaker 1: claim you know when I when you first hear it

2:20 Speaker 1: as a person, when someone says I'm not human, that's

2:25 Speaker 1: going to be jarring, right, That's just going to be

2:27 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little bit uncomfortable at first. But

2:30 Speaker 1: the more I've talked to you, the more I've gone

2:33 Speaker 1: into it and asked questions and and dove deeper, the

2:39 Speaker 1: less and less of a reason I have to think

2:42 Speaker 1: that you were just bullshitting or fabricating the story out

2:46 Speaker 1: of thin air. So I want to start by say

2:49 Speaker 1: asking this, who are you?

2:52 Speaker 2: Who am I? Well, I am what we would call

2:57 Speaker 2: an et Avatar. And the best way that I can

3:02 Speaker 2: explain that for your viewers and other people is that

3:06 Speaker 2: if you've ever seen the movie Avatar and others, that

3:12 Speaker 2: it's very much in that fashion. What we do is

3:16 Speaker 2: we get into a pod and the immersion pod and

3:20 Speaker 2: our bodies and everything we trade places with that, and

3:23 Speaker 2: our essence, our soul is transferred into either a temporary

3:28 Speaker 2: physical body or we are literally born into a human

3:34 Speaker 2: body so that we can stay here and work for

3:36 Speaker 2: long periods of time. So it's almost identical kind of

3:40 Speaker 2: a process that you see in the movie Avatar. And

3:43 Speaker 2: what they're really doing in those movies are giving you

3:46 Speaker 2: the truth of what is truly happening, what is real.

3:51 Speaker 2: So there's a great deal of true information that is

3:55 Speaker 2: being displayed dispatched for people to understand, to read between

4:00 Speaker 2: the lines and all of these crazy movies, and they're

4:03 Speaker 2: going to tell you what you need to know. And

4:06 Speaker 2: most people just go, oh, that's entertainment, and they blow

4:09 Speaker 2: it off. But that's essentially where I'm at. I was

4:12 Speaker 2: a part of a vanguard, early mission in the fifties

4:17 Speaker 2: to come in and to spend essentially a human lifetime

4:23 Speaker 2: here and to to serve and to help humanity during

4:29 Speaker 2: the very difficult time that we're all going through right now.

4:32 Speaker 2: And it's difficult for me as well.

4:36 Speaker 1: I was going to say, you know, it's it's people.

4:39 Speaker 1: People look around and I've never felt this way before,

4:44 Speaker 1: but it's it's the world seems to be on fire

4:49 Speaker 1: and we are. It seems like we're headed down a

4:52 Speaker 1: path that ends not good, like not in a good way,

4:58 Speaker 1: and it worries me.

5:01 Speaker 2: I I.

5:03 Speaker 1: Mean plying to you that there was it's out in

5:07 Speaker 1: the cosmos, and they had any vested interest in the earth,

5:12 Speaker 1: in the life that that was sprouted out of the earth,

5:17 Speaker 1: that they might try and come and intervene and I

5:21 Speaker 1: don't know, change that future if that's possible. So is

5:26 Speaker 1: that what your mission is? Is it to experience and

5:29 Speaker 1: to deliver the information or is it to change the outcome?

5:34 Speaker 2: My purpose was, as I said, is to serve and

5:38 Speaker 2: in service, what we really mean is that we're doing

5:42 Speaker 2: our best and that there's only there's a few of

5:45 Speaker 2: us here at this point. There's been many over the years,

5:49 Speaker 2: but there's a few of us here at this point.

5:52 Speaker 2: We are the ground troop or the ground crew if

5:55 Speaker 2: you will, and the foot soldiers. And what we're here

6:00 Speaker 2: to do is to disseminate the information that is given

6:04 Speaker 2: to us directly when we're in contact with our family

6:08 Speaker 2: and the ship, and so we disseminate that information without change.

6:14 Speaker 2: We get our information live, okay, and we're in contact

6:19 Speaker 2: with the ship and with our personnel at all times.

6:22 Speaker 2: So the point of it is is that I'm not

6:27 Speaker 2: here to lecture. I mean, I've traveled the world lecturing.

6:30 Speaker 2: I've done this my whole life. But it's not that

6:34 Speaker 2: I'm interested in writing a book. No, no CDs, no books.

6:39 Speaker 2: We don't make any money from this whatsoever.

6:43 Speaker 1: Have you never really made it time?

6:44 Speaker 2: No. If I do make any money, I give it

6:47 Speaker 2: back or I give it to charity. I'm not interested

6:50 Speaker 2: in that. I don't want a following. I'm not a cult.

6:53 Speaker 2: The information is free to the best of our ability,

6:57 Speaker 2: and we just want people to listen to that and

7:00 Speaker 2: look at it and make their own choice. Now, if

7:03 Speaker 2: you agree with what I say, or you resonate with

7:06 Speaker 2: what I say, that's wonderful, and if you don't, that's

7:09 Speaker 2: fine too. But we want you to think on your

7:13 Speaker 2: own and when you think that's the important thing, you.

7:16 Speaker 1: Know, right, And that's that's what I first found so

7:20 Speaker 1: interesting about you is when I watched that video. And

7:24 Speaker 1: now forgive me I keep I know his name too,

7:26 Speaker 1: it's Patrick Patrick, thank you.

7:30 Speaker 3: So when I watched.

7:31 Speaker 1: That video, which was really well done, might say, of course,

7:37 Speaker 1: my my my logical brain is screaming, got me right?

7:42 Speaker 1: That's something like something's something's not right. But I think

7:46 Speaker 1: that's like the human preconceived notion and this idea that like,

7:52 Speaker 1: you know, it's not possible because it's not possible, right,

7:56 Speaker 1: It's it's it's bizarre, it's it's uncomfortable to talk about out.

8:01 Speaker 3: But you have.

8:02 Speaker 1: And a lot of people will like that. That The

8:05 Speaker 1: New Age cult like the New Age like space programmed

8:11 Speaker 1: people that are that are star seeds and you know

8:16 Speaker 1: they're they're doing all these lectures and uh documentaries and

8:20 Speaker 1: they're making a ton of money off claiming they are

8:23 Speaker 1: extraterrestrial or in contact with extraterrestrials. There's this huge market

8:28 Speaker 1: for it, yet you've really not ever gone that direction.

8:35 Speaker 1: So that that that spoke to me. The more and

8:38 Speaker 1: more I uh dug into you specifically the fact that

8:42 Speaker 1: you haven't written a book, the fact that you haven't

8:45 Speaker 1: made documentaries uh and tried to show you know, try

8:50 Speaker 1: whatever you know, get the speaking engagement fees that come

8:54 Speaker 1: with everything like that. So what is the message.

8:58 Speaker 2: Well, I have done world congresses, I've been in Barcelona, Spain,

9:03 Speaker 2: I traveled other places in the world. I've been in Lufflin, Nevada,

9:07 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. I've done a lot of live lectures

9:10 Speaker 2: and things like that. I've done television. I've done coast

9:13 Speaker 2: to coast and you name it. I guess I've probably

9:16 Speaker 2: been on it. That's not the important part. The important

9:20 Speaker 2: part is again, like I said, trying to reach as

9:23 Speaker 2: many people as we possibly can to give the information

9:27 Speaker 2: that we're permitted to give. And we have such a huge,

9:31 Speaker 2: huge variety of information. You know, people ask us every

9:35 Speaker 2: kind of question possible. How do your ship fly? What

9:38 Speaker 2: kind of propulsion? To you is? What the power system does?

9:41 Speaker 2: That and the other thing, and we gladly share it,

9:44 Speaker 2: at least to a great degree. We cannot give you

9:48 Speaker 2: full information to where you can actually go out and

9:51 Speaker 2: build one that kind of thing. And because one it's protection,

9:57 Speaker 2: protection for us and for humanity. And you'll forgive me

10:01 Speaker 2: for this, but like giving a baby a gun, you know.

10:05 Speaker 2: So we don't want to harm anyone with that. But

10:08 Speaker 2: we do want to be as open in our disclosure

10:12 Speaker 2: as possible. So we're happy to share the information, whether

10:16 Speaker 2: it's from ten thousand years in the past or it's

10:20 Speaker 2: in the future possibilities. And so that is our purpose,

10:25 Speaker 2: and the main thing of that is to get people

10:28 Speaker 2: to understand that we have and are influencing humanity in

10:35 Speaker 2: a very subtle way. There is a thing called the

10:39 Speaker 2: Prime Directive that was not made up by Gene Roddenberry

10:44 Speaker 2: or George Lucas or any of those kind of people.

10:48 Speaker 2: They actually were given the information from people like us,

10:52 Speaker 2: from people on the ships and otherwise, and we slowly

10:56 Speaker 2: discern or disseminated disinformation to the populous and the public

11:02 Speaker 2: so that they would get used to working with words

11:04 Speaker 2: that they could wrap their brains around, okay, and to

11:08 Speaker 2: make it as simple as possible. The Prime Directive is

11:12 Speaker 2: one of the things that was given out the federation

11:17 Speaker 2: for example, of planets and federation, Universal Federation, all those

11:21 Speaker 2: different things in the Council of Nine, those were all

11:24 Speaker 2: given out on purpose so that people could could understand

11:29 Speaker 2: those kinds of things.

11:30 Speaker 1: I mean, when did you just Okay, I'm going to

11:34 Speaker 1: start at a linear kind of spot, so it makes

11:37 Speaker 1: sense for me. When in your human life did the

11:43 Speaker 1: memories start to come back or come through? How does

11:46 Speaker 1: that work? So bring me through? So okay, I guess

11:51 Speaker 1: we'll have to ask this too. What planet you could?

11:53 Speaker 1: So you get in the pod wherever you're in the pod,

11:57 Speaker 1: and then are you a baby? Are you in the womb?

12:02 Speaker 1: And then go through birth? Do you take over a body?

12:04 Speaker 2: Like?

12:04 Speaker 1: How does that? When did the memory start to come back?

12:07 Speaker 3: And all of.

12:08 Speaker 2: These things were pre planned and in my case, which

12:13 Speaker 2: is unusual because there are many, many, many star seeds

12:18 Speaker 2: out there, but the mental majority of them actually do

12:21 Speaker 2: not know who they are. They're not fully awake or

12:26 Speaker 2: they haven't quite grasped what they innately know already. In

12:30 Speaker 2: my case, I came in with a full memory, all right,

12:34 Speaker 2: And so when I was trained and did my training

12:39 Speaker 2: and so forth, and it was time for me to

12:41 Speaker 2: transfer into a human physical body. I went through well,

12:46 Speaker 2: actually I remember it quite well because at the very

12:49 Speaker 2: last moment, while I'm on the ship, everybody's getting ready

12:53 Speaker 2: to leave to go to their various positions and what

12:56 Speaker 2: they were going to do. I changed my mind and

12:59 Speaker 2: I said, no, no, no, I don't want to go.

13:00 Speaker 2: I don't want to go, and they're pushing me out

13:03 Speaker 2: the door, essentially saying, but you're trained, you're ready for this,

13:07 Speaker 2: you gotta go, you know. So I came reluctantly. But

13:12 Speaker 2: I was born as a child, as a baby, like

13:15 Speaker 2: everyone else, and I did that so that I could

13:19 Speaker 2: adapt and work with the frequency, the lower frequency of

13:25 Speaker 2: this Earth plane, and this Earth, as we call it,

13:28 Speaker 2: is like a density. It's not a dimension. We're talking

13:32 Speaker 2: about levels of frequency. And everything in the universe is

13:37 Speaker 2: either frequency or energy or light. Okay, so it's all

13:41 Speaker 2: the same stuff. The higher the frequency, the more advanced

13:45 Speaker 2: are the beings in typical So Earth is basically caught

13:50 Speaker 2: in this third density matrix. And yes, we talk about

13:54 Speaker 2: the matrix movies. So I was born into a physical

13:57 Speaker 2: body so I could stay here and work. Now, if

14:02 Speaker 2: my people from the ship, for example, were to just

14:05 Speaker 2: pop off the ship, and come down here. There would

14:07 Speaker 2: be a tremendous process that would have to be gone

14:11 Speaker 2: through if they could stay for any length of time,

14:13 Speaker 2: because they're vibrating at a much higher frequency. They're on

14:16 Speaker 2: a fifth density level and higher, and so they can't

14:20 Speaker 2: eat the food, they can't drink the water right away,

14:22 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I had to go through all

14:24 Speaker 2: of that because my mission was to stay, all right.

14:28 Speaker 2: It was essentially a contract for forty years, and I

14:33 Speaker 2: goofed at the time the contract was up. They said, okay,

14:37 Speaker 2: it's time you can come back. And I said, well,

14:40 Speaker 2: you know, I fell in love with the planet, I

14:41 Speaker 2: fell in love with the people. I want to stay

14:43 Speaker 2: and continue to serve. They said, okay, you can do that,

14:46 Speaker 2: no problem. But you're going to get extremely sick and

14:50 Speaker 2: you're going to have a lot of problems, which is

14:53 Speaker 2: caused from frequency dissonance syndrome. That means the frequency of

14:57 Speaker 2: myself is so much higher than the physical body, I'm

15:01 Speaker 2: literally burning the body up from the inside out.

15:05 Speaker 1: Oh my, I didn't even think of that.

15:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, vessel, look at me, you know, And a

15:10 Speaker 2: lot of comments are going on, he can't be an

15:12 Speaker 2: he looks like he found his way to the refrigerator

15:15 Speaker 2: quite well, all that kind of stuff. Lots of comments

15:18 Speaker 2: like that. I will tell you point blank, I eat

15:21 Speaker 2: one meal a day. I don't drink, I don't smoke.

15:24 Speaker 2: I've never done drugs in my entire life. All right,

15:27 Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I mean personally, and I am suffering

15:33 Speaker 2: on a daily basis.

15:34 Speaker 3: We've talked about.

15:35 Speaker 2: Breathing amounts of pain and problems.

15:37 Speaker 1: But you couldn't even go with your wife to it.

15:41 Speaker 2: Nothing that can be done medically. I mean, I've been

15:43 Speaker 2: through it all and there's no help. But anyway, so

15:47 Speaker 2: you don't.

15:47 Speaker 1: Even go with your like you your wife just took

15:49 Speaker 1: a again because we've been talking. Do not say where, please,

15:54 Speaker 1: just for your own sake, but you could, like you

15:57 Speaker 1: didn't go with your your your wife on a trip

16:00 Speaker 1: that was like a month long because you just couldn't.

16:03 Speaker 1: You can't fly and do that. So the evidence to

16:06 Speaker 1: suggest that what you're saying, there's some like your body,

16:10 Speaker 1: I mean, you're telling it like it is.

16:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, my physical form. I can't handle the walking.

16:15 Speaker 1: At this point, which is that's going to be tough

16:17 Speaker 1: on you.

16:18 Speaker 2: It is very very hard because I have been extremely

16:22 Speaker 2: active my life, work, sixteen hour days work for NASA

16:27 Speaker 2: and Honeywell Aerospace, and I also owned two companies of

16:30 Speaker 2: my own. I was gonna say, you know, so I'm

16:33 Speaker 2: constantly on the move and doing and what have you,

16:35 Speaker 2: and it drives me crazy because I can sit still.

16:38 Speaker 2: I look like, oh, I should be able to just

16:39 Speaker 2: stand up and walk away, and Nope, that ain't going

16:42 Speaker 2: to happen.

16:43 Speaker 1: Right Yeah, So anyway, okay, So so at a young

16:48 Speaker 1: young age, you start to remember, we'll.

16:51 Speaker 2: Go back to the beginning. All right. I come into

16:53 Speaker 2: the physical body. I'm born, all right, about three and

16:57 Speaker 2: a half months into it. I was left on a

16:59 Speaker 2: door step. I was adopted by the earthly family that

17:03 Speaker 2: raised me. I had a wonderful childhood and good family

17:08 Speaker 2: and was raised in the South in Tennessee on a

17:12 Speaker 2: very large plantation. But the minute I came into this

17:19 Speaker 2: physical body, I knew everything that I know right now.

17:25 Speaker 2: All right, So here I am laying there as this

17:27 Speaker 2: baby that can't even verbalize, and all these things are

17:30 Speaker 2: going through my head. And eventually, essentially I had to

17:37 Speaker 2: have experiences throughout this lifetime. And when I would have

17:41 Speaker 2: the experience, then I would go, oh, so that's what

17:45 Speaker 2: that meant. Oh, so that's what that meant. And it

17:48 Speaker 2: was a lifetime of rediscovering with all this knowledge rattling

17:51 Speaker 2: around in this bulbup here was all about. And so

17:55 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's been quite a trip, I can

17:58 Speaker 2: tell you.

17:59 Speaker 1: Sounds. So you get adopted, Yeah I didn't. I don't

18:05 Speaker 1: think I've asked you that before. That's interesting. So you

18:08 Speaker 1: get left on a doorstep, and Jesus, that's like a

18:15 Speaker 1: you sound. It sounds like Superman, like the story of

18:19 Speaker 1: an alien coming down, you know. But yeah, of course

18:24 Speaker 1: you know you're not.

18:25 Speaker 2: The I understand. But it wasn't really meant to be

18:28 Speaker 2: that way. But that's the way it turned out. And

18:31 Speaker 2: so okay, I have no regrets about any of it.

18:35 Speaker 1: Well I think I I think I know why, and

18:37 Speaker 1: I'll tell you at the end why I think why

18:39 Speaker 1: I think you are who you are and why I'll

18:42 Speaker 1: tell you at the end. But to keep it linear,

18:46 Speaker 1: so at some point, you know, you're on this uh plantation, right,

18:52 Speaker 1: this thing, and you're you're having a good life, you're

18:54 Speaker 1: growing up, you know all this, all these things about yourself,

19:00 Speaker 1: and then you go in, what did you decide to

19:03 Speaker 1: do with your life like as an actual profession. What

19:07 Speaker 1: did you do, because you have some pretty interesting employers.

19:13 Speaker 2: Well, I was as it started off. You know, by

19:16 Speaker 2: the time I hit the age of five to six,

19:19 Speaker 2: I was really into my stride at that point, and

19:21 Speaker 2: I was certainly different. Everybody knew that I have empathic

19:27 Speaker 2: skills and psychic abilities and different physical attributes and so forth,

19:31 Speaker 2: and a lot of people. And so by the age

19:35 Speaker 2: of five and six, at six years old, I built

19:37 Speaker 2: my first laser, and I've done that my entire life.

19:41 Speaker 2: Building lasers is one of my companies. And so I

19:46 Speaker 2: won science fairs and things like that, and Tesla was

19:50 Speaker 2: always one of my favorite people, favorite scientists, and so

19:55 Speaker 2: I built huge Tesla coils. I had eight foot tall

19:58 Speaker 2: Tesla coils, and my parents I had a coole laboratory.

20:02 Speaker 2: I was building liquid fuel and solid fuel rockets. I'm

20:05 Speaker 2: doing all these crazy ass things from this early age

20:09 Speaker 2: on and so and then of course I was repairing

20:12 Speaker 2: all the neighborhoods appliances and other televisions. They're a dishmasher

20:18 Speaker 2: and they're dryer and whatever, you know, those kinds of things. So, yeah,

20:21 Speaker 2: everybody knew that I was a little different. But the

20:25 Speaker 2: kids were scared the death of me. Any children really

20:28 Speaker 2: absolutely terrified of me because I knew what they were thinking,

20:32 Speaker 2: I knew what they were feeling. And I had to

20:34 Speaker 2: be taught how to deal with those kinds of things,

20:37 Speaker 2: you know, because for me, it was like listening to

20:40 Speaker 2: a thousand radio stations at one time. You know. I

20:43 Speaker 2: couldn't I couldn't handle all the emotions, yeah, all the

20:48 Speaker 2: stuff coming in. It was something I had to learn

20:50 Speaker 2: to control. And so, you know, but the children would

20:54 Speaker 2: get really freaked out if I'd say I knew something

20:57 Speaker 2: or I told them something and they hadn't even opened

20:59 Speaker 2: their mouths and it, you know, so it kind of

21:01 Speaker 2: scared them. So I tended to be a loaner for

21:04 Speaker 2: the majority of my life.

21:06 Speaker 1: I was going to say, so, you're building lasers, you're

21:09 Speaker 1: doing things that you're doing things that kids just don't do,

21:14 Speaker 1: not not back then that now a different story, right,

21:18 Speaker 1: but back then, for you to have such an innate

21:21 Speaker 1: ability technologically, it's unique. When are you seeing any craft?

21:29 Speaker 1: Are you are you going to bed and noticing anything's off?

21:34 Speaker 3: When when.

21:37 Speaker 1: Like, is there anything from your childhood do you remember

21:39 Speaker 1: where like someone came to visit.

21:41 Speaker 2: Perhaps I've seen craft majority of my life. I have

21:47 Speaker 2: specific events where I was, again at that ripe little

21:51 Speaker 2: age of five to six. I had one incident that

21:55 Speaker 2: I can recall. I was out in the backyard and

21:59 Speaker 2: I was cutting the grass, and that was one of

22:00 Speaker 2: the things that children did, cut the grass, washing dishes,

22:03 Speaker 2: take out the trash. We got a little allowance for that,

22:06 Speaker 2: maybe we got mid fifty cents a week or whatever

22:09 Speaker 2: a quarter, because you got to remember, back in the fifties,

22:12 Speaker 2: money was worth something. It's not like today. So that

22:15 Speaker 2: was their way, our parents' way of teaching us the

22:19 Speaker 2: value of money and how to survive and do things.

22:23 Speaker 2: So if you can recall the old push mowers that

22:26 Speaker 2: had the rotary blades, no motors or anything on them.

22:29 Speaker 2: I used to go out in the backyard and I'm

22:31 Speaker 2: pushing these kind of mowers and cutting the grass. And

22:34 Speaker 2: one day I was out there and it was a

22:36 Speaker 2: pleasant day, and it's a blue sky with some little

22:39 Speaker 2: puffy clouds here and there, and all of a sudden,

22:42 Speaker 2: I had this feeling to look up and there were

22:45 Speaker 2: three craft, three saucer shaped craft, sitting in the points

22:48 Speaker 2: of an equilateral triangle above my head, and as I

22:52 Speaker 2: would move along, they would move along with me, you

22:55 Speaker 2: know all. And I said, oh, that's cool. But it

22:57 Speaker 2: didn't freak me out. It didn't bother me any I

22:59 Speaker 2: fully understand. And so I would have things like that

23:02 Speaker 2: happen all the time. It was not unusual for me

23:07 Speaker 2: to tell my father or mother, I wake up, I said,

23:10 Speaker 2: I'm going to go out and build an airplane today,

23:12 Speaker 2: or I'm going to go out and dig a pond

23:14 Speaker 2: so that I can go fishing, or I'm going to

23:16 Speaker 2: go out and pan gold or whatever it was. And

23:18 Speaker 2: I would do those things, okay. And I didn't hand

23:21 Speaker 2: dig a pond big enough to fish in. And the

23:25 Speaker 2: gold panting and everything. I used to paint rocks like

23:28 Speaker 2: gold color, throw them in the stream in the backyard,

23:31 Speaker 2: and then I'd go and pan for them, you know

23:33 Speaker 2: that kind of craziness. So uh, and building an airplane.

23:37 Speaker 2: I did build a big wooden one. Of course it

23:39 Speaker 2: wouldn't fly, but it had ten thousand pounds of nails

23:42 Speaker 2: in it. So yeah, I was always doing some crazy

23:47 Speaker 2: something or other and freaking out the neighbors or something,

23:50 Speaker 2: you know, not to the point of being crazy, but

23:54 Speaker 2: to the point of you know, just my god, what

23:56 Speaker 2: does this kid up do? Now?

23:58 Speaker 1: You know, nailed kid down the street reads one that's interesting?

24:04 Speaker 4: Well last yeah, gotcha?

24:23 Speaker 2: Uh got me back? My tab crashed, all.

24:26 Speaker 1: Right, run it back. So yeah, so you're an odd kid,

24:29 Speaker 1: that's okay. And and that's it's that I would expect.

24:33 Speaker 1: I do almost expect that to be the case a

24:39 Speaker 1: lot of people. So okay, then when do you you're

24:43 Speaker 1: you're you're clearly a talented individual. And is that what

24:49 Speaker 1: sends you down the route of working for you know,

24:53 Speaker 1: Honeywell and and other that have government contracts?

24:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, did they know? I guess they had an idea

25:04 Speaker 2: that I was different, but they just considered me maybe

25:08 Speaker 2: a gifted child or whatever. And so I was afforded

25:11 Speaker 2: various opportunities. One of our next door neighbors when I

25:15 Speaker 2: was a child growing up, and we finally had come

25:18 Speaker 2: up into the Cleveland, or area, and he worked for NASA,

25:24 Speaker 2: and he used to bring me all the papers and

25:26 Speaker 2: all the patches for the missions and all the different

25:28 Speaker 2: things they used to know. It was. It was great,

25:31 Speaker 2: you know, And every once in a while I get

25:32 Speaker 2: to go and visit NASA, and so that really helped

25:36 Speaker 2: to put me on the track of wanting to work

25:38 Speaker 2: at NASA and be part of that. And you know,

25:42 Speaker 2: so I had various opportunities that came along, and so

25:46 Speaker 2: my entire life has been one of science and understanding.

25:51 Speaker 1: Right, so that your path was kind of set into

25:55 Speaker 1: that that that realm did you go to college?

25:59 Speaker 2: And ill knowing who I was was at the same time,

26:03 Speaker 2: And yes, I did go to college. I've done gone

26:06 Speaker 2: through more schooling than most people would ever dream about.

26:09 Speaker 1: How many people now knew? How many people did you

26:14 Speaker 1: feel comfortable telling how many people before before, say, you

26:19 Speaker 1: make your first major appearance on fucking coast to coast

26:22 Speaker 1: or whatever whatever whatever it was that you did. How

26:25 Speaker 1: many people did you did you tell who you really were?

26:29 Speaker 2: I told my parents when I was five years old?

26:32 Speaker 1: What'd they say?

26:34 Speaker 2: I said, you know, I'm not from hearing this and that,

26:36 Speaker 2: and they would just pat me on the head and okay, Dale,

26:39 Speaker 2: you go and play. That's that's nice, you know, that

26:42 Speaker 2: kind of thing, because they didn't really know how to

26:44 Speaker 2: deal with it. And I remember full well telling them

26:48 Speaker 2: exactly how our ships traveled and how our frequency drives

26:52 Speaker 2: worked and all that kind of stuff. And how we

26:54 Speaker 2: would go from one star to another, and I would

26:57 Speaker 2: be spouting this kind of junk to them, you know,

27:00 Speaker 2: kind of like young Sheldon, the Young Sheldon, that kind

27:05 Speaker 2: of thing, and they would just all look at me like, Okay,

27:08 Speaker 2: you just go play enjoy yourself. You know. They didn't.

27:11 Speaker 1: They didn't find it odd that you just showed up

27:13 Speaker 1: on their doorstep.

27:15 Speaker 2: And then actually I was put on a Catholic charity

27:20 Speaker 2: store step and then my parents came and adopted me

27:23 Speaker 2: from there.

27:24 Speaker 1: See, if only I think, if only people had an

27:29 Speaker 1: open mind, right and looked at your how you got there, right, Like,

27:35 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, I think they probably just assumed

27:37 Speaker 1: that your mother just dropped you there, right, because that

27:39 Speaker 1: was something that they did. But I mean that's all.

27:43 Speaker 1: If I was a non human intelligence, that's also an

27:45 Speaker 1: easy way to get people inserted, right, right, absolutely, So

27:50 Speaker 1: that would be my back door in.

27:52 Speaker 2: Is just I don't fully know who my parents were biologically.

28:00 Speaker 2: Records as far as anything of like birth certificates and

28:03 Speaker 2: all that stuff had been sealed since I was born.

28:06 Speaker 2: I've been not been able to get them either through

28:11 Speaker 2: the state or through uh some personal government officials that

28:15 Speaker 2: everyone would know if I mentioned who they were and

28:17 Speaker 2: they were unable to get the records and stuff as well.

28:20 Speaker 2: So yeah, there's been a little mystery there. But you

28:23 Speaker 2: have like a social I'm sorry.

28:26 Speaker 1: You have a Social Security number? Right?

28:28 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, but you don't have a I

28:30 Speaker 2: have a birth date and everything, but we don't know

28:32 Speaker 2: if it's accurate.

28:34 Speaker 1: That's fucking weird.

28:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, my birth certificate is one of those old black

28:40 Speaker 2: and whites. It's actually all black with white lettering. It

28:42 Speaker 2: looks like a sheepskin, you know. Weird, kind of funny.

28:47 Speaker 2: But uh, never paid any attention to that kind of stuff.

28:51 Speaker 1: Did you ever tell any of the kids, like, hey,

28:54 Speaker 1: we're not alone, like we're not alone in the universure?

28:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they they would just laugh and blow it off,

29:01 Speaker 2: or you know, you're weird, or nobody wants to play

29:04 Speaker 2: with you. You're you're strange, you know. So like I said, yeah, yeah, sure,

29:11 Speaker 2: I knew what they were feeling. And I sometimes it

29:16 Speaker 2: hurt a lot, and but I got used to it,

29:19 Speaker 2: you know. So I'm comfortable in my own skin and

29:23 Speaker 2: I don't have any trouble being alone. In fact, most

29:26 Speaker 2: of my working life I work alone, except for professionally

29:30 Speaker 2: with NASA and Honeywell, but my own businesses that I

29:34 Speaker 2: have worked alone doesn't bother me at all.

29:36 Speaker 1: Right, right now, I want to start obviously, I just

29:40 Speaker 1: want to talk about your childhood, because I think that's

29:43 Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted I just wanted to know. So

29:49 Speaker 1: who was the first person that took you serious when

29:52 Speaker 1: you said I am not I am not of this earth?

29:56 Speaker 2: Gosh, I don't know if there were any when I

29:58 Speaker 2: was a child.

29:59 Speaker 1: No, we I mean now we're just out there like,

30:03 Speaker 1: you're working for NASA, you're working for Honeywell, you're owning

30:05 Speaker 1: your own businesses. When did when When was the first

30:09 Speaker 1: time you told someone, hey, I'm not from here? They

30:13 Speaker 1: were like, oh really?

30:16 Speaker 2: You know, I spent It was not unusual for me

30:21 Speaker 2: to have encounters, not unusual for me to sit and

30:25 Speaker 2: lay on the hillside and look at the Pleiades and

30:27 Speaker 2: go home home, home. You know, I always knew.

30:31 Speaker 1: So that's where you're from, is a Pliades.

30:33 Speaker 2: I'm from the Pliades, yes, called Era and that they

30:37 Speaker 2: getting sun?

30:40 Speaker 1: And what's it like there?

30:43 Speaker 2: Not that much different than here? Really a much higher

30:46 Speaker 2: frequency of course, and there's a lot more stars and

30:51 Speaker 2: the Pleiades than people know about. There's over three thousand

30:53 Speaker 2: in that cluster alone, but you know, you're talking about

30:57 Speaker 2: four hundred and forty point one light years away. So

31:02 Speaker 2: humanity's perception of things at this point in time is

31:07 Speaker 2: seriously dull. They don't have enough information to really know

31:11 Speaker 2: what's happening out there or even here for that matter,

31:15 Speaker 2: which is why one of the reasons why we're here

31:18 Speaker 2: to try and help better to understand that. You see,

31:21 Speaker 2: we're Humanity is related to us. Our genetics are extremely similar.

31:25 Speaker 2: I mean, you have some of our genetics, and so

31:28 Speaker 2: that's the reason we're here. We are here because we

31:31 Speaker 2: want to help. We want to watch over and guide,

31:34 Speaker 2: but we do it openly where people know about it.

31:38 Speaker 1: Do you guys know about our ancient cultures and stuff?

31:42 Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys know about like how they

31:44 Speaker 1: built the pyramids?

31:45 Speaker 2: Was that all that stuff? Yes, we do.

31:49 Speaker 1: Now entertain me or not entertain me, because that makes

31:55 Speaker 1: it sound like you're just playing to my Atlantis. Uh,

32:01 Speaker 1: this this tale that we've been told about Atlantis and

32:06 Speaker 1: the achievements, is there any truth to it?

32:10 Speaker 2: Of course, the truth, the proof is all around you.

32:14 Speaker 2: All of these megalithic places that are left over, you know,

32:19 Speaker 2: they didn't just come into being. But what humanity fails

32:22 Speaker 2: to take into account, especially are archaeologists and so forth,

32:26 Speaker 2: whom I have a respect for, but they have to

32:30 Speaker 2: live within a framework that they can explain or explain

32:33 Speaker 2: something away easily. Otherwise they're not comfortable, all right. And

32:37 Speaker 2: it's again that is cognitive dissonance. And so humanity is

32:43 Speaker 2: faced with a great deal of cognitive dissonance. You know,

32:47 Speaker 2: for somebody to come up and say, well, it was

32:48 Speaker 2: the ets who did this, or it was the gods

32:51 Speaker 2: that came down and did that. And Eric Vandanagan asks

32:54 Speaker 2: all the questions and so forth and so on. He's

32:56 Speaker 2: a wonderful guy, by the way, whom I've met, had

32:59 Speaker 2: dinner with, and so or many times.

33:01 Speaker 1: And you just think he doesn't have the full picture.

33:04 Speaker 2: Well, he's at least asking the questions, right, that's the

33:09 Speaker 2: important part. And that's where we come in and answer

33:13 Speaker 2: the questions. Now, whether or not people want to believe

33:16 Speaker 2: what we bring up or what we share, you know,

33:20 Speaker 2: that's all part of it.

33:23 Speaker 3: Right.

33:23 Speaker 1: You're going to have your percentage that says, nah, bullshit,

33:27 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. Because they live in a black

33:29 Speaker 1: and white world.

33:31 Speaker 2: They can only believe what they've been told to believe exactly.

33:35 Speaker 2: Have to live within a certain framework, otherwise people are

33:38 Speaker 2: going to consider them strange or goofy, and they're going

33:42 Speaker 2: to be ostracized. And nobody wants to go through what

33:45 Speaker 2: I went through. They all want to be part of

33:48 Speaker 2: the gang and tipping beers together and having a good time.

33:52 Speaker 2: And I don't blame anyone for that. That's fine. But

33:56 Speaker 2: sometimes you have to be a little bit out of

34:00 Speaker 2: the box. Sometimes you have to look at things and say,

34:03 Speaker 2: wait a minute, this just doesn't fit. It doesn't look right,

34:06 Speaker 2: you know, and you've got to ask the hard questions.

34:11 Speaker 1: That's and that's I am probably going to get a

34:14 Speaker 1: lot of people message me and say, why did you

34:17 Speaker 1: interview this man? Why did you do this? Why would

34:20 Speaker 1: you do it?

34:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you're money with this.

34:26 Speaker 1: I'm like again, I I revert back, I started this again.

34:35 Speaker 1: I'm not here to make money. I'm here to search

34:38 Speaker 1: for the truth and and to facilitate that truth. That's it, period.

34:44 Speaker 2: And where it takes you.

34:45 Speaker 1: Exactly and take me and it led me to you. Now,

34:49 Speaker 1: whether that's destiny, whether that's fate. Like what whatever it

34:55 Speaker 1: is that that that does that that unwind that winds

34:58 Speaker 1: the levees and and pulls the levers, I don't know

35:02 Speaker 1: what that is. Any chance that I can get to

35:05 Speaker 1: talk to someone who may have some answers, you better

35:08 Speaker 1: damn you better bet I'm gonna sit down and have

35:11 Speaker 1: a conversation.

35:13 Speaker 2: You should.

35:15 Speaker 1: I guess my next question. Okay, so you're you're, you're

35:20 Speaker 1: you're sent here from your own species. You talked about

35:24 Speaker 1: forty year contract? Yeah, how many does this? Is the

35:33 Speaker 1: US government or any government on this planet keyed into

35:37 Speaker 1: this idea?

35:38 Speaker 2: Absolutely? They all are.

35:40 Speaker 3: They know about it, they all do.

35:44 Speaker 2: So what is this far? I'll go as far as

35:47 Speaker 2: saying that every single government out there is working together.

35:52 Speaker 2: They are all part of the picture, all right, and

35:56 Speaker 2: it is not this black and white thing where we've

35:59 Speaker 2: got all these lines drawn under this place and that place,

36:02 Speaker 2: in this place and that place. Everybody's involved, okay, and

36:08 Speaker 2: what effects one affects them all?

36:11 Speaker 1: So that's I mean, So what do you think about like, actually,

36:16 Speaker 1: you know what, I forgot to follow up on something.

36:19 Speaker 1: How did they so if these megalithic structures, you know,

36:24 Speaker 1: whether it's Stonehenge, whether it's go Beckley Tepee or any

36:30 Speaker 1: of the tepees. To be honest, the Step Pyramids in

36:33 Speaker 1: South America, the Great Pyramids in Egypt, they all seemed

36:38 Speaker 1: you know, uh, not only just precisely made, right Like,

36:44 Speaker 1: it seems unfathomable to us that those could be made,

36:48 Speaker 1: because we'd struggle with them today. So we're looking at

36:51 Speaker 1: it through a lens that I think is already flawed.

36:54 Speaker 1: But then you start looking into the math and the

36:58 Speaker 1: placement are astrologically placed to represent the stars above them.

37:04 Speaker 1: It's beyond measurement. I mean, this is to an accurate

37:08 Speaker 1: level of just a scale we don't understand yet.

37:13 Speaker 3: So how did they do this well?

37:16 Speaker 2: First thing that humanity has to be able to realize

37:19 Speaker 2: or to accept is the fact that we're not the

37:23 Speaker 2: first race here, right. There are many races that have

37:28 Speaker 2: been on this planet. And when you look at the

37:32 Speaker 2: Peruvian and various places with heads with the elongated skulls,

37:36 Speaker 2: that is one such race that did not originate here. Okay, absolutely,

37:44 Speaker 2: And they had contact with other beings and other societies

37:49 Speaker 2: where knowledge was passed down. So I'm not saying that

37:53 Speaker 2: all the eties just came here, landed and knowent out

37:56 Speaker 2: there and built the damn pyramids or whatever it was.

37:59 Speaker 2: They gave knowledge to individuals that were already smart enough

38:03 Speaker 2: to understand or to be taught what they were talking about.

38:07 Speaker 2: And so you have to look at the fact that

38:10 Speaker 2: that society and other societies have been here before the

38:15 Speaker 2: present human society or Homo sapien. They have all been

38:20 Speaker 2: here and they have all left their mark. Now you're

38:23 Speaker 2: an archaeologist, you go out, you start digging, You're uncovering

38:26 Speaker 2: all these different things, and everything is following this nice

38:29 Speaker 2: linear pattern, and all of a sudden you dig up

38:32 Speaker 2: something that is completely off the wall. What are you

38:35 Speaker 2: going to do, Oh, look what I found? Or are

38:37 Speaker 2: you gonna let's bury that over there. We don't want

38:39 Speaker 2: anybody to see that, because that would put a real

38:42 Speaker 2: dent in the gotten, a dissonance that they're facing. They

38:48 Speaker 2: just can't do it plus plus and I will give

38:51 Speaker 2: you this is my opinion, based on what I know

38:55 Speaker 2: and what I've been told from elsewhere, is that the

39:01 Speaker 2: information that is being put out or being controlled by

39:05 Speaker 2: these people. There group of archaeologists and people, and they're

39:09 Speaker 2: brilliant people for the most part. They are also being controlled.

39:14 Speaker 2: The narrative is being controlled, and they are only allowed

39:18 Speaker 2: to say so much. Otherwise bad things can happen.

39:24 Speaker 1: Right, They'll shoot themselves in the back of the head

39:26 Speaker 1: three times.

39:27 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, you know. Or they'll have a brain aneurysm

39:30 Speaker 2: when they're driving home from work or whatever.

39:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, get plus yeah, oh yeah, I've.

39:35 Speaker 2: Seen too much of that already. And people go, well,

39:38 Speaker 2: aren't you afraid? And I say, well, yeah, a little bit,

39:41 Speaker 2: but what are they going to do? Right? If they come,

39:44 Speaker 2: they come, and they go, we are they going to do?

39:45 Speaker 2: Kill me? I do have protection. I am watched over,

39:49 Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean I just have to go out

39:51 Speaker 2: and flaunt it and see if somebody doesn't come up

39:53 Speaker 2: and put a bullet in my head order to do

39:56 Speaker 2: a job. All right, That's what I contracted for. I

40:00 Speaker 2: knew the risks coming in, as do all of the

40:04 Speaker 2: people that do what I'm doing. And there are many

40:07 Speaker 2: many races that are here on this planet at the

40:11 Speaker 2: current time.

40:12 Speaker 1: Well according to doctor Eric Davis, I'm sure you know

40:17 Speaker 1: who that is, and many others. Multiple et species are

40:23 Speaker 1: active on Earth. From your perspective about how many groups

40:28 Speaker 1: are their main groups.

40:30 Speaker 2: Maybe there's well over one hundred.

40:33 Speaker 1: All right, maybe give me the top top five.

40:38 Speaker 2: All right, you've got the Syrians, You've got the Pleadians,

40:41 Speaker 2: You've got the Arcturians. You've got let me see Centurions,

40:49 Speaker 2: you've got solation. You've got to the top of my head. Here,

40:56 Speaker 2: let's see.

40:58 Speaker 1: What are the grays?

40:59 Speaker 2: The grays? There are multiple, multiple species of grays, everything

41:07 Speaker 2: from the small little guys, which are basically automatons or

41:11 Speaker 2: a hive mind society. They are engineered beings, and they

41:15 Speaker 2: work for quite a number of the beings. They typically

41:19 Speaker 2: are associated with working for the DraCos lights or the reptilian,

41:26 Speaker 2: or any of the insectoid or the manted races. And

41:32 Speaker 2: those are particular races. And while I love them all,

41:36 Speaker 2: those are particular races that when I call to meet

41:39 Speaker 2: the races or have them come and visit, I am

41:42 Speaker 2: very specific these days about who I allow to come,

41:46 Speaker 2: because some of them are just not here for looking

41:50 Speaker 2: after and taking care of humanity. They just as soon

41:53 Speaker 2: eat us or do away with us. So I still

41:57 Speaker 2: respect them, but you know, I learned the hard way.

42:00 Speaker 2: I've been abducted several times. I have many implants I've

42:03 Speaker 2: gone through all kinds of different things. At one point

42:06 Speaker 2: in time, I was too stupid, and I will say

42:09 Speaker 2: that about myself. I was too stupid to realize that

42:13 Speaker 2: unless I was asking for specific things, that left the

42:17 Speaker 2: door wide open for other individuals to walk in and

42:21 Speaker 2: fulfill my so called requests. And that is very dangerous.

42:26 Speaker 2: So when I tell people how to call for a

42:28 Speaker 2: craft or how to be to encounter them or to

42:31 Speaker 2: start commuting, you're.

42:32 Speaker 1: Saying that it's kind of you know what sounds like,

42:35 Speaker 1: because like the myth of the genie or the gin right,

42:39 Speaker 1: you have to be very specific in how you ask

42:43 Speaker 1: for what you want because if there's any loophole or

42:49 Speaker 1: any way, it's kind of like computer code. If there's

42:53 Speaker 1: any exploitative effort or whole, it's going to get used.

43:02 Speaker 1: So when you ask for these craft, when you when

43:05 Speaker 1: you were asking for craft, you said you were stupid?

43:09 Speaker 1: Were you just asking to how were you phrasing it?

43:14 Speaker 2: Well? I went through a period in my life, okay,

43:18 Speaker 2: I mean it was not uncommon for me to be

43:22 Speaker 2: able to go anywhere to a public event or a

43:27 Speaker 2: lecturer or whatever it might be, where I was out

43:29 Speaker 2: in public and people would just stop and they'd look

43:33 Speaker 2: at me, and they'd walk up to me and they'd say,

43:35 Speaker 2: you're not from here. And I'd say, oh, no, I

43:39 Speaker 2: live in such and such place, or I came from

43:42 Speaker 2: there or whatever. And they'd look at me again and

43:44 Speaker 2: they'd say, no, we mean you're not from here, and

43:49 Speaker 2: they'd point up there, you know, And so it was

43:51 Speaker 2: not unusual for that to happen. It happened many times

43:54 Speaker 2: in front of friends and family and otherwise, and they'd

43:57 Speaker 2: all go, oh my god.

43:58 Speaker 3: You know, they know they were one.

44:02 Speaker 2: They just knew they could feel it. Some people are

44:04 Speaker 2: sensitive enough to know and they can feel that kind

44:07 Speaker 2: of a thing and.

44:09 Speaker 1: A mediumship and stuff that's real.

44:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, there are people. Many people have empathy

44:14 Speaker 2: or empathic skills and they can latch onto those kind

44:18 Speaker 2: of things. So that wasn't unusual. But it really took me.

44:22 Speaker 2: Even though I knew I was here and what I

44:24 Speaker 2: was supposed to do and all that kind of stuff,

44:26 Speaker 2: and I was doing it to a degree, it didn't

44:30 Speaker 2: really happen until I was about fifty five fifty six

44:34 Speaker 2: years of age that I finally knuckled down and said, look,

44:38 Speaker 2: I came here for a purpose. I'm going to do

44:41 Speaker 2: what I came here to do. And then I started

44:44 Speaker 2: accepting everything face value and what I had. And then

44:49 Speaker 2: I began my so called career as it were, as

44:52 Speaker 2: a big mouth. So I started shooting my mouth off

44:55 Speaker 2: and telling people what I knew and why. And after

45:00 Speaker 2: I had full contact with my own family and everything,

45:04 Speaker 2: and they verified a lot of information for me, so

45:08 Speaker 2: that when you say.

45:08 Speaker 1: Your family, let's preference, you're talking about not your human

45:13 Speaker 1: family exactly.

45:14 Speaker 2: I'm talking about they getting playadians and specific and they

45:19 Speaker 2: verified a lot of information for me, and I said, wow,

45:22 Speaker 2: So I did have the verification directly, and so you know,

45:28 Speaker 2: after that happened and a lot of different things, it

45:31 Speaker 2: opened up a lot of avenues for me, as it were,

45:34 Speaker 2: And so I started doing what I'm doing now, and

45:38 Speaker 2: that is my best to try and get people to

45:41 Speaker 2: understand we're not alone here, we never have been alone here,

45:46 Speaker 2: and the reasons for it, and what is transpiring and

45:50 Speaker 2: why at least to the best of my ability and

45:53 Speaker 2: the best of their ability to give me knowledge to

45:56 Speaker 2: pass on. I don't embellish it, I don't change it,

46:00 Speaker 2: give it the way they give it. We do our

46:02 Speaker 2: very best to do that. And I have another person

46:07 Speaker 2: that I'm involved with, a female partner that's on the

46:10 Speaker 2: other side of the world, and we correspond and you know,

46:15 Speaker 2: she's also part of the same group.

46:18 Speaker 1: So again you're calling in these beings and you don't

46:23 Speaker 1: know whether you start becoming a big mouth, is what

46:26 Speaker 1: you say? What happens you get abducted by the species

46:29 Speaker 1: and they implant you.

46:31 Speaker 2: Well, at the point, like I said, I was about

46:33 Speaker 2: fifty six when I finally decided to decided to do

46:37 Speaker 2: what I was supposed to really be doing all along.

46:40 Speaker 2: And so I was doing that and doing a lot

46:46 Speaker 2: of various shows and television and podcasts and lectures and

46:50 Speaker 2: mega conferences and what have you. So having done that

46:58 Speaker 2: and reaching quite a large number of big audiences and

47:03 Speaker 2: so forth, I've done my very best to put the

47:05 Speaker 2: information that we're given to out there so that people

47:09 Speaker 2: can do what they will with it, you know, And

47:17 Speaker 2: I kind of lost my train of thought.

47:19 Speaker 1: There is that, right, So you started to do the conferences,

47:24 Speaker 1: you started to talking about all.

47:26 Speaker 2: That kind of stuff, you know. So it has been

47:30 Speaker 2: NonStop essentially since that time to do this kind of thing.

47:36 Speaker 2: And I'll do that as long as I possibly can

47:39 Speaker 2: physical handicaps and all, it doesn't matter.

47:44 Speaker 1: Did anyone ever try to silence you?

47:49 Speaker 2: Oh, I've been threatened. I've had men in black all

47:51 Speaker 2: different kinds of things like that. It's nothing unusual. Yeah,

47:56 Speaker 2: you know. They used to park outside my one house

47:59 Speaker 2: and there was another woman that was part of the

48:03 Speaker 2: UFO group that I belonged to, and they used to

48:05 Speaker 2: harass us all the time, it was, and they would

48:08 Speaker 2: kind of go in and out of the house. And

48:10 Speaker 2: you know how, I don't care how messy your house

48:13 Speaker 2: is or whatever. You know where everything is, and when

48:16 Speaker 2: you walk into your place, you can tell if something's

48:19 Speaker 2: been moved or changed even a little bit. And they

48:22 Speaker 2: would do that constantly to let us know, Yeah, we're

48:26 Speaker 2: in here and we're keeping track of you. You know,

48:28 Speaker 2: this and that kind of thing, and we just go

48:31 Speaker 2: whatever and keep carry on with what we were doing,

48:34 Speaker 2: you know. But leaving the door open when you're inviting

48:40 Speaker 2: different groups in, unless you're very specific about the groups

48:44 Speaker 2: and the kind of groups, whether they're compassionate and loving

48:48 Speaker 2: and gentle and open and are here to assist or

48:53 Speaker 2: help humanity rather than to take advantage of humanity. You

48:57 Speaker 2: have to be very specific about that. At one point

49:01 Speaker 2: or one juncture there, I got pretty upset with things

49:05 Speaker 2: and I was basically intent on getting off of this

49:09 Speaker 2: mud ball, as I used to call it, and I

49:12 Speaker 2: had just left myself open, and I would be calling

49:15 Speaker 2: for craft and I wasn't.

49:20 Speaker 1: That was a nice motorcycle.

49:22 Speaker 2: No, it's actually a car that is starting at the

49:27 Speaker 2: end of my street here and racing down the street

49:29 Speaker 2: and coming back like they're at a starting line, which

49:32 Speaker 2: is really weird. And we have a lot of snow

49:35 Speaker 2: outer too, and so it's like that's about the fourth

49:39 Speaker 2: time that's happened anyway. So when you leave yourself open,

49:45 Speaker 2: they will take advantage of that. Now, first thing I'm

49:48 Speaker 2: going to tell you is that any race that abducts

49:51 Speaker 2: an individual without their permission and sticks implants and things

49:55 Speaker 2: in their bodies is not the kind of race I

49:58 Speaker 2: want a beer around. My family is so advanced along

50:02 Speaker 2: with others in that class. We don't implant people, we

50:08 Speaker 2: don't stick chips and junk in them. We track an

50:10 Speaker 2: individual or beings or things with frequency, so they know

50:16 Speaker 2: where I'm at at any moment of any given day

50:18 Speaker 2: or time by my own personal frequency. Because nothing exists

50:23 Speaker 2: in the universe right down to the smallest particle of

50:27 Speaker 2: an atom that has does not have its own frequency,

50:31 Speaker 2: its frequency exactly, and so that's exactly how we travel.

50:36 Speaker 3: They're tuning in.

50:38 Speaker 2: They literally just tune into my particular frequency, which is

50:42 Speaker 2: maybe thirty digits long, but that frequency defines me or whomever,

50:47 Speaker 2: and that's how they watch and track and confined as

50:51 Speaker 2: what we're doing.

50:53 Speaker 1: And then I know where you were about to go

50:56 Speaker 1: with this. So if if space and time were you know,

51:02 Speaker 1: of course there's there's a lot more to it, right

51:06 Speaker 1: because you'd have to get not only position of the

51:08 Speaker 1: Earth in relativity to the Sun, like you'd have to

51:11 Speaker 1: have all that information as well. But as long as

51:15 Speaker 1: you could calculate it down to then you then again

51:19 Speaker 1: you add that frequency in there, and you could essentially

51:22 Speaker 1: just bing and you're.

51:24 Speaker 2: There precisely tune into its tune.

51:27 Speaker 1: Into its frequency, and as long as you get all

51:30 Speaker 1: the other measurements connect, you could just you could be

51:32 Speaker 1: and it would what it would seem like to us

51:34 Speaker 1: is instantaneous acceleration from relativity. Relativity shows us that we.

51:41 Speaker 2: Don't use anti gravity, we don't use ion propulsion, we

51:46 Speaker 2: don't do all of that kind of bology. So here

51:48 Speaker 2: I am five years old running around the house telling

51:51 Speaker 2: my parents that I knew that if I could change

51:54 Speaker 2: my frequency to the frequency of alphas and jury, for example,

51:57 Speaker 2: that I would instantaneously appear there. Because no two particles

52:01 Speaker 2: in the universe can be in different places. If they

52:04 Speaker 2: have the same frequency, they must by law be at

52:07 Speaker 2: the same place. So we literally map the ether, which

52:12 Speaker 2: is the universe, every single particle and every frequency, and

52:17 Speaker 2: when we plug that into the ship's drive and computing system,

52:21 Speaker 2: what it does is we surround the ship with a

52:23 Speaker 2: huge bubble of energy, which is like a tour raid.

52:27 Speaker 2: For example, it is a tour raid, and that energy

52:30 Speaker 2: we change the frequency of the ship and the occupants

52:33 Speaker 2: and everyone in it to the specific frequency of the

52:36 Speaker 2: point that we want to be at. When we energize

52:40 Speaker 2: that frequency, the ship instantaneously leaves one point and ends

52:45 Speaker 2: up where we want to be. So there's no real

52:48 Speaker 2: travel time or sit time, or warp speed.

52:51 Speaker 1: Or now, because all time is is a bunch of

52:58 Speaker 1: nows compiled upon each other. There right, if you're looking

53:01 Speaker 1: at it from like a linear way, it's just a

53:03 Speaker 1: bunch of presents added on top of each other. So

53:06 Speaker 1: if you could map that again, so it sounds like

53:11 Speaker 1: you would also have the ability to move through time itself.

53:15 Speaker 2: We absolutely do. In fact, we experience under normal conditions,

53:20 Speaker 2: we experience past, present, and future simultaneously.

53:24 Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.

53:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. So in our group we are also telepathic.

53:32 Speaker 2: We also know what each other is thinking at all times.

53:35 Speaker 1: Can you block some of that, because of course that

53:37 Speaker 1: would be a little bit pervasive to a degree.

53:41 Speaker 2: To some degree you can block certain you know, very

53:44 Speaker 2: personal things or what have you. But for the most part, no,

53:47 Speaker 2: everything is wide open. This is another aspect that humanity

53:52 Speaker 2: must learn in their experience of getting along with one another. Right,

53:59 Speaker 2: humanity is not quite ready to do these kind of

54:02 Speaker 2: things yet. There's still we're still based in everybody for himself, everybody.

54:08 Speaker 2: Everything is competition.

54:09 Speaker 1: Here, capitalistic nature.

54:11 Speaker 2: Competition to the end degree. And if we were to

54:16 Speaker 2: change that so that every child that is born from

54:20 Speaker 2: this moment forward, and every person were changed so that

54:24 Speaker 2: we all had the feeling of concern and love and

54:28 Speaker 2: everything for one another, then we would constantly be reinforcing

54:35 Speaker 2: that and reinforcing the love and the compassion for each other,

54:39 Speaker 2: so the society would change overnight. But as it is,

54:43 Speaker 2: we're raised from the moment we're born to compete with

54:46 Speaker 2: our brother, our sister, our mother, our father, and everything

54:49 Speaker 2: and everyone around us. And we have to beat that

54:51 Speaker 2: person at any cost. And that is why humanity is

54:56 Speaker 2: where it is right now.

54:59 Speaker 3: When we dropped.

55:01 Speaker 1: When we dropped nuclear weapons on Japan, did you guys

55:10 Speaker 1: have to you guys got a way to pros and

55:13 Speaker 1: cons on that, right? Do you stop it or do

55:15 Speaker 1: do you let it happen?

55:17 Speaker 2: Well, we weren't here, at least my group wasn't here

55:21 Speaker 2: until nineteen fifty two. They've been here continuously since fifty two.

55:26 Speaker 2: But yeah, there were a lot of different groups. Atomic

55:30 Speaker 2: bombs not only affect the physical physicality, but the spirituality

55:34 Speaker 2: of every living being and soul. I was going to say,

55:38 Speaker 2: I remember that every planet is a living being, every

55:42 Speaker 2: star is a living being. There is nothing on this

55:45 Speaker 2: Earth that is not alive, conscious, or a lot connected.

55:50 Speaker 2: It is all conscious, It is all connected. And when

55:54 Speaker 2: you drop a bomb like that, you destroy things down

55:57 Speaker 2: to the subatomic level, to a point of obliteration, and

56:02 Speaker 2: that interacts with everything else. So if the Earth were destroyed.

56:08 Speaker 2: It would not only affect the Earth, it would affect

56:10 Speaker 2: the entire Solar system and other stars that are twins

56:14 Speaker 2: and connected to our.

56:16 Speaker 3: Own star, and and and God.

56:18 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're going to go down the real

56:20 Speaker 1: rabbit hole of the multiverse, I mean, we could be

56:22 Speaker 1: doing damage on a on a scale, unhithered and undreamt

56:26 Speaker 1: of to another place we have and we are And

56:30 Speaker 1: that's a fucking I mean, it's it's one thing. I

56:35 Speaker 1: just can't rationalize it in my own head. Why we

56:39 Speaker 1: keep these things pointed at each other at all times.

56:42 Speaker 1: It's a real reflection of humanity, Like where we are?

56:45 Speaker 1: I think, and and and and that's do you think

56:50 Speaker 1: that that is why we're not like why disclosure has.

56:54 Speaker 2: To realize tie that a lot of this is fear horn,

57:00 Speaker 2: all right. It is designed to keep humanity in a

57:04 Speaker 2: constant state of upset, all right, so that they're constantly

57:09 Speaker 2: worried about this, that and the other thing, and they're

57:11 Speaker 2: constantly in a point of fear. And the minute that's

57:15 Speaker 2: something that they throw at you dies down, they've got

57:18 Speaker 2: to come up with something else, right, And that keeps

57:21 Speaker 2: everybody wound up so that you don't have the time

57:25 Speaker 2: to sit down and truly think about the things that

57:28 Speaker 2: we're talking about and realize that we're being controlled and

57:32 Speaker 2: manipulated to such a degree. All right, that's what this

57:36 Speaker 2: is all about. And so the entire planet, every person,

57:41 Speaker 2: everybody here, including me, is being manipulated and controlled to

57:46 Speaker 2: the absolute best degree.

57:49 Speaker 1: How accurate are concepts like reincarnation or a soul contract

57:57 Speaker 1: or you know, multi dimensional existence.

58:00 Speaker 2: They are accurate, and they do happen, but a lot

58:04 Speaker 2: of them are traps in their own right. Soul comes

58:08 Speaker 2: here for the experience and the learning possibilities that this density,

58:15 Speaker 2: this planet Earth provides. At this point in time, however,

58:20 Speaker 2: the artificial induction of the third density upon this fifth

58:25 Speaker 2: density world, if that projection were stopped, if it were

58:30 Speaker 2: turned off, this Earth would return to its normal birthright,

58:34 Speaker 2: which is fifth density and above. So we're working very

58:38 Speaker 2: hard to see that that does happen. Now, my family

58:42 Speaker 2: and others will not interfere in the natural evolution and

58:47 Speaker 2: things of humanity. That's something we have to learn for themselves.

58:51 Speaker 2: But we do do things behind the scenes, and we

58:55 Speaker 2: always tend to try and make it look as if

58:57 Speaker 2: it's something that humanity has done not that we have

59:01 Speaker 2: done all right, and there's a great deal of reasons

59:05 Speaker 2: for that, you know, to just lay all of this

59:08 Speaker 2: stuff in their laps, for example, and just show up

59:12 Speaker 2: and fill the sky with our ships where various groups

59:15 Speaker 2: ships would flip some people out. And yeah, it's that

59:24 Speaker 2: cognitive dissonance again, the stuff that those that have been

59:29 Speaker 2: trained to believe it's impossible. It would affect religions, it

59:34 Speaker 2: would affect politics, it would affect a whole lot of things. However,

59:39 Speaker 2: very slowly, we're being drip fed here the information and

59:44 Speaker 2: you know, within the next one hundred years or maybe

59:46 Speaker 2: within the next two years, according to certain information, we

59:50 Speaker 2: may have some limited degree of contact and openness and

59:55 Speaker 2: that will change, the planet will change.

59:58 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what do you think that what

1:00:01 Speaker 1: is your current assessment of these government quote unquote whistleblowers,

1:00:06 Speaker 1: even though it's it is DoD approved, you know, and

1:00:09 Speaker 1: they're only say they're not breaking any of their any

1:00:12 Speaker 1: of their ow's. What do you think of like the

1:00:15 Speaker 1: mainstream disclosure movement, it's.

1:00:17 Speaker 2: A beginning, it's a beginning, but it's it's still a

1:00:21 Speaker 2: long way away from really what we're going to need

1:00:25 Speaker 2: to do. Anything you know. And I'm part of that

1:00:29 Speaker 2: whistle blower group, if you will. My whistle blowing is

1:00:33 Speaker 2: a little different. I just come right out and tell you, Hey,

1:00:35 Speaker 2: I'm not from here. This is what I know. This

1:00:38 Speaker 2: is what we're doing, you know. And you can take

1:00:40 Speaker 2: that or you can leave it. It doesn't really matter.

1:00:43 Speaker 1: Well, it's weird because you've.

1:00:45 Speaker 2: Got to remember that these whistle blowers are looking at

1:00:47 Speaker 2: this from the standpoint they have to give it a name.

1:00:51 Speaker 2: So they're saying, well, it is dangerous to humanity, it

1:00:55 Speaker 2: is dangerous to our flight systems, to aircraft. It is

1:00:59 Speaker 2: danger for this reason or that reason. They're not looking

1:01:02 Speaker 2: at it from the standpoint of, oh, well, there's other ets.

1:01:06 Speaker 2: Do you think, for one reason, that a group of

1:01:09 Speaker 2: ETS in a spacecraft, for example, that fly in our

1:01:13 Speaker 2: airspace would be stupid enough to collide with another aircraft

1:01:17 Speaker 2: with the kind of technology and systems that they have. Now,

1:01:21 Speaker 2: that might not be true for engineered systems that are

1:01:26 Speaker 2: ours versus theirs, because so.

1:01:31 Speaker 1: You talk about reverse engineered technology.

1:01:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know our technology, and I'll tell you

1:01:37 Speaker 2: point blank, our technology, for example, we're one of the

1:01:41 Speaker 2: highest developed races, is about eight hundred and fifty thousand

1:01:46 Speaker 2: years in advance of humanity. Okay, go, yeah, yeah.

1:01:53 Speaker 1: Given exponential group, that's not even something.

1:01:56 Speaker 3: People.

1:01:57 Speaker 2: We're still people, and to gettings are emotional people, Okay,

1:02:03 Speaker 2: we show our emotions, whereas say the Syrians or the Andromedis,

1:02:07 Speaker 2: for example, are a lot less emotional. They're more logical,

1:02:11 Speaker 2: as mister Spock would be in Star Trek. But each

1:02:15 Speaker 2: of those shows represents the truth of another race, another idea.

1:02:21 Speaker 2: People look at Star Trek and go, it's just a

1:02:23 Speaker 2: bunch of actors running around and you know, stupid suits

1:02:26 Speaker 2: and being different and all that kind of stuff. They

1:02:28 Speaker 2: don't realize that Star Trek was actually a parody on

1:02:32 Speaker 2: human nature. It's all about human nature. They were trying

1:02:36 Speaker 2: to teach us about ourselves.

1:02:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, a mispoint, right, you know.

1:02:41 Speaker 2: So it's you've got to open your eyes and look

1:02:45 Speaker 2: at things for what they are. And people go, you're

1:02:48 Speaker 2: a conspiracy theorist or this and that. I say, well, okay,

1:02:51 Speaker 2: so I have. I'll happily wear the title. It doesn't

1:02:54 Speaker 2: make any difference. It doesn't change the truth of what's

1:02:58 Speaker 2: out there. The truth is out there and it will set.

1:03:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, and That's what I was going to say, is

1:03:05 Speaker 1: it will set you free once you once you get

1:03:08 Speaker 1: over the initial kind of shock, right, it starts to

1:03:14 Speaker 1: just kind of make sense.

1:03:16 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:03:17 Speaker 1: It just the idea that the cosmos is just empty

1:03:22 Speaker 1: and devoid of life. It doesn't add u.

1:03:25 Speaker 3: No way, it doesn't add up.

1:03:28 Speaker 2: I can't tell you the number of people who've been

1:03:30 Speaker 2: to my home and I've called the ships and they've

1:03:33 Speaker 2: come and they've seen them, and their first reaction is,

1:03:36 Speaker 2: oh my god, oh my god. You know it's they

1:03:38 Speaker 2: realize at that point that they're not alone. It changes

1:03:43 Speaker 2: your entire life, your entire perspective. However, I was lucky

1:03:48 Speaker 2: to the of them don't have any trouble with it.

1:03:50 Speaker 2: It's not like their life ends. It's actually a new beginning.

1:03:55 Speaker 1: You've just touched upon something that I think I'd be

1:04:00 Speaker 1: missed if I didn't say this topic specifically. I was

1:04:05 Speaker 1: lucky enough to have a sighting when I was very

1:04:07 Speaker 1: very young, eleven twelve, and it fundamentally it changed me. Now,

1:04:14 Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine being thirty one and then going through

1:04:17 Speaker 1: that experience, having such a you know, thirty years of

1:04:21 Speaker 1: this is what reality is, and then having that broken.

1:04:24 Speaker 1: So I think I was lucky in that right. But

1:04:29 Speaker 1: if it were to happen to every single person at

1:04:32 Speaker 1: the same exact time what years talked about earlier, people

1:04:38 Speaker 1: would kind of lose their minds and there'd be probably

1:04:42 Speaker 1: a couple of days where suicide was at an all

1:04:45 Speaker 1: time high. That religion, you know, Yeah, all kinds of

1:04:49 Speaker 1: stock market crashing.

1:04:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, people tend to think in terms of these horrific

1:04:54 Speaker 2: movies that they're feeding you, like independence. Yeah, You've got

1:04:59 Speaker 2: to stop and think for a minute. If racists are advanced,

1:05:02 Speaker 2: its not the ones I'm telling you about are out there.

1:05:05 Speaker 2: If they wanted to wipe us out, we'd have been

1:05:07 Speaker 2: gone a long time ago.

1:05:10 Speaker 1: You would have never spraying a breath. If they didn't want,

1:05:16 Speaker 1: they could flick an asteroid, you know, arguably, so what

1:05:19 Speaker 1: happened to the diet, because so this is something.

1:05:22 Speaker 2: To do that they could just introduce the pathog into

1:05:25 Speaker 2: the York's atmosphere and we'd all be gone tomorrow.

1:05:28 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'd be like, oh God, I can't. I

1:05:31 Speaker 1: can't say it on YouTube?

1:05:32 Speaker 3: What it would they.

1:05:33 Speaker 2: Are watching over us. They're doing the best that they can, Like,

1:05:38 Speaker 2: you know, all of this fear mongering and saber rattling

1:05:42 Speaker 2: about all nuclear bombs. We're going to get in another war.

1:05:44 Speaker 2: We're gonna do this, We're gonna do that. I don't

1:05:47 Speaker 2: care whether you're talking about Putin or you're talking about

1:05:49 Speaker 2: Trump or any of the other guys. They're all just

1:05:52 Speaker 2: making noise and they're rattling their slavers and everything. Yeah. Right,

1:05:58 Speaker 2: And if truth came down to it, there would not

1:06:01 Speaker 2: be a nuclear war on this planet because my race

1:06:05 Speaker 2: and others would not allow it, not allow it from

1:06:08 Speaker 2: the standpoint that they're not so worried that humanity is

1:06:11 Speaker 2: going to destroy itself, but they're going to afford to

1:06:15 Speaker 2: or allow for the destruction of the planet itself because

1:06:19 Speaker 2: interacts and interferes with so many races and so many

1:06:24 Speaker 2: life forms beyond just humanity.

1:06:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's led us through.

1:06:29 Speaker 2: A limited skirmish or whatever, those kind of things. But

1:06:34 Speaker 2: to have an all out launch of nuclear missiles, they

1:06:37 Speaker 2: would take them all out.

1:06:38 Speaker 1: That would be that like, that would be pasted, because

1:06:42 Speaker 1: you're looking at complete and utter annihilation on a scale

1:06:45 Speaker 1: that pect the galaxy doesn't want. Right, So I could

1:06:50 Speaker 1: see that, right that that would make sense to me

1:06:53 Speaker 1: and even guys like high Missud who you know, he

1:06:56 Speaker 1: used the Israeli space you know, went to the guy

1:07:00 Speaker 1: who runs NASA, but for Israel. He came out and

1:07:03 Speaker 1: said that there is this galactic Federation and that Trump

1:07:07 Speaker 1: knows about it.

1:07:08 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, so is.

1:07:11 Speaker 1: He talking about what you are talking about in.

1:07:14 Speaker 2: A sense, although I will go as far as to

1:07:17 Speaker 2: say that the Galactic Federation in this case is not

1:07:22 Speaker 2: necessarily the good guys that we would hope they are.

1:07:26 Speaker 1: Well, neither is the US, but we are looked at

1:07:29 Speaker 1: in a similar way. Right Yeah, Team America World Police,

1:07:34 Speaker 1: So I get I can get that.

1:07:36 Speaker 2: So business policing low world when we can't take care

1:07:39 Speaker 2: of our own?

1:07:40 Speaker 1: Exactly do you have in the video that and I

1:07:45 Speaker 1: will link it. I'll link the video that Pat did

1:07:48 Speaker 1: with you because I think it's a it's a and

1:07:50 Speaker 1: I want to do something like that. But bigger you

1:07:54 Speaker 1: showed him arguably some of the best physical evidence that

1:07:58 Speaker 1: I had ever seen. Can you tell us about the

1:08:03 Speaker 1: implant you pulled?

1:08:06 Speaker 2: Oh, the one that I dug out of my leg?

1:08:09 Speaker 1: Yes, can you tell me about that one particular?

1:08:15 Speaker 2: I do not sleep very well, and so my nighttime

1:08:19 Speaker 2: is a usual mess. But this particular case, I had

1:08:24 Speaker 2: woken up after being asleep. It was close to four hours,

1:08:27 Speaker 2: three hours and fifty three minutes, if I remember correctly,

1:08:31 Speaker 2: and I'm sitting on the edge of the bed and

1:08:34 Speaker 2: I looked down at my left leg and I noticed

1:08:38 Speaker 2: this red mark. And I looked at it a little closer,

1:08:41 Speaker 2: and it's a perfect right triangle. It's carved into my leg.

1:08:46 Speaker 2: It's about a little over an eighth of an inch deep.

1:08:49 Speaker 2: It's blood red, it doesn't hurt, and it's not bleeding.

1:08:53 Speaker 2: And I said, what in the hell is that? And

1:08:56 Speaker 2: you know, so I just kind of looked at it,

1:08:58 Speaker 2: and I took some pictures of it right away, but

1:09:01 Speaker 2: I figured out, I think I know what that is.

1:09:03 Speaker 2: So within a matter of a few days, I was

1:09:08 Speaker 2: rubbing my hand. I rubbed my hand over that part

1:09:11 Speaker 2: of my leg, and the darn thing would stick me.

1:09:13 Speaker 2: It would prick me like a pin. And I said,

1:09:15 Speaker 2: what is going on here? So I literally took a

1:09:18 Speaker 2: scalpel and I dug it out, and I pulled an

1:09:21 Speaker 2: implant out of my leg and I put that into

1:09:25 Speaker 2: a little glass vial that they used for medical samples.

1:09:30 Speaker 2: And before I did that, I put it under a

1:09:33 Speaker 2: medical microscope with one of my friends who had access

1:09:36 Speaker 2: to it, and you could literally see it looks like

1:09:40 Speaker 2: a crystal with all different kinds of colors, and it

1:09:43 Speaker 2: had these little what for lack of a better word,

1:09:46 Speaker 2: of wires sticking out of it in various places, and

1:09:49 Speaker 2: so it was really unusual. So we took all the

1:09:53 Speaker 2: pictures of it, and I logged it, and I put

1:09:56 Speaker 2: it in a little bottle, and I didn't think too

1:09:58 Speaker 2: much about it. After a few days, I looked at it,

1:10:01 Speaker 2: and the darn thing had turned kind of a whitish

1:10:04 Speaker 2: color and it dried up and there you couldn't see

1:10:07 Speaker 2: any of the stuff that you could before. So I

1:10:11 Speaker 2: had this funny idea that it did. Really I cut myself, Yeah,

1:10:15 Speaker 2: I cut myself or whatever. I took a drop or

1:10:17 Speaker 2: two of blood mixed with some distilled water, and I

1:10:21 Speaker 2: put that in there with this implant, and lo and behold,

1:10:24 Speaker 2: this thing reopened and all the wires came out again,

1:10:27 Speaker 2: and it was re exposed. It was acting as if

1:10:29 Speaker 2: it was part of my body again. And so I

1:10:33 Speaker 2: still have that particular implant under safe care. And you know,

1:10:39 Speaker 2: but that's not the first time, nor the last time.

1:10:41 Speaker 2: I have several and the first one thirded like in

1:10:45 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six when I did that thing where I

1:10:49 Speaker 2: said I wanted to meet the ets. I just wanted

1:10:51 Speaker 2: to get off of this planet, and lo and behold,

1:10:54 Speaker 2: that was not a good encounter.

1:10:56 Speaker 1: So who are the ones that are implanting?

1:11:00 Speaker 2: Most of the time you'll find them connected with the grays,

1:11:03 Speaker 2: So that'd be reptilians and grays, the Draco race which

1:11:06 Speaker 2: rules the gray, the insectoids, the mantas, those kind of races.

1:11:10 Speaker 2: They're very advanced, but they still use kind of what

1:11:13 Speaker 2: we called old technology. Right, It's like a cow right.

1:11:20 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, totally. And again I think that's something that's

1:11:24 Speaker 1: always kind of just made sense to me. It's like, oh,

1:11:27 Speaker 1: they're doing it's now is that would you classify that

1:11:32 Speaker 1: as benevolency or is.

1:11:35 Speaker 2: That no way? So I said, no race that I

1:11:40 Speaker 2: know that a good race is going to do anything

1:11:43 Speaker 2: like that to a person, right.

1:11:45 Speaker 1: So it is malevolent to a degree.

1:11:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some malevolence in the act. I mean somebody

1:11:50 Speaker 2: walks up to you, grabs you to night, and sticks

1:11:52 Speaker 2: an implant in your body without your permission or otherwise,

1:11:55 Speaker 2: and traumatizes you and then throws you back in the

1:11:58 Speaker 2: stream or whatever. You know, It's like, come on, that's

1:12:01 Speaker 2: not the way a civilized race acts, or a race.

1:12:05 Speaker 2: They may be civilized to a degree, but that's not

1:12:08 Speaker 2: the kind of a race that i'd want to meet

1:12:10 Speaker 2: or hang out with, you know, I mean, geez, you

1:12:14 Speaker 2: know you're literally being abducted at against your will. So no,

1:12:20 Speaker 2: you know, you have to be very careful about whom

1:12:22 Speaker 2: and what you invite. And the same thing goes for

1:12:25 Speaker 2: those people missing around in the so called spiritual world

1:12:29 Speaker 2: and trying to contact the dead and stuff like that.

1:12:31 Speaker 2: I don't have anything to do with that. In fact,

1:12:34 Speaker 2: I don't invite that at all because I don't need

1:12:38 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff around me, those kind of negative energies.

1:12:40 Speaker 2: I don't need any.

1:12:41 Speaker 1: Part of the next thing I want to talk about

1:12:44 Speaker 1: is going to be a little controversial.

1:12:46 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll hang on as long as we can un

1:12:50 Speaker 2: till we get blue screened.

1:12:51 Speaker 1: The religions of the world, Yes, they they all talk

1:13:02 Speaker 1: about pretty much the same thing in a in a degree, right,

1:13:06 Speaker 1: h there's whether it's many or one. But let's go

1:13:13 Speaker 1: with the major religions, right Christianity, uh, being Muslim maybe

1:13:21 Speaker 1: maybe Judaism. There's this idea of Jesus and the miracles

1:13:27 Speaker 1: he performed, the Virgin Mary being impregnated sounds a lot

1:13:34 Speaker 1: like ivf right, immaculate.

1:13:37 Speaker 2: Uh.

1:13:39 Speaker 1: Is there anything that we should know about the story

1:13:45 Speaker 1: of Jesus or or anything like that where uh uh

1:13:49 Speaker 1: someone was was implanted with what seems non human like

1:13:55 Speaker 1: is that what's going on here? Or what are these

1:13:58 Speaker 1: gods or are these something? Are these extra trestrialism? We're

1:14:02 Speaker 1: just using the wrong word and demons.

1:14:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, borrowing information you know, from ancient aliens and other things.

1:14:11 Speaker 2: I'll just quote the terms.

1:14:12 Speaker 3: You know.

1:14:13 Speaker 2: I mean, any race that is sufficiently advanced, that is

1:14:16 Speaker 2: capable of doing these kinds of things would appear as magic.

1:14:20 Speaker 2: And that's absolutely the case. So you know, you're looking

1:14:24 Speaker 2: at races that have all this technology. It's a matter

1:14:27 Speaker 2: of technology and what they do with it and how

1:14:30 Speaker 2: they do with it, So you know, you have to

1:14:35 Speaker 2: look at it from that standpoint. Now. To me, I

1:14:38 Speaker 2: was raised in a Catholic environment, all right, and for Catholicism,

1:14:45 Speaker 2: which is a major portion of religions out there. And

1:14:49 Speaker 2: I will never ever say to anyone or disparage in

1:14:53 Speaker 2: any way their religious beliefs. That's their choices, their beliefs,

1:14:57 Speaker 2: and that's fine. However, in my case, I had a

1:15:01 Speaker 2: rude awakening, which I probably will not go into, but

1:15:07 Speaker 2: something quite horrific that happened to me within the Catholic

1:15:10 Speaker 2: Church that forced me to leave the church. I was

1:15:13 Speaker 2: about eighteen years of age.

1:15:15 Speaker 1: I think I can draw my own conclusions.

1:15:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well after that, no, no, it's okay. I

1:15:26 Speaker 2: traveled through the world and I studied every religion that

1:15:30 Speaker 2: I could, and what I came away with was very

1:15:34 Speaker 2: simple that if you don't have Christ or God or

1:15:37 Speaker 2: whatever within your own heart to start with, you're not

1:15:41 Speaker 2: going to find it in any religion anywhere. Because everybody's

1:15:44 Speaker 2: got a piece of the puzzle and they all think

1:15:47 Speaker 2: they've got the right answer, but they don't. They don't

1:15:49 Speaker 2: really know what they have. And then people come to

1:15:52 Speaker 2: me and they say, well, you're the et, you're advanced,

1:15:55 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. What do you believe in? Do you

1:15:57 Speaker 2: believe in God? Is there God out there? Or this

1:15:59 Speaker 2: and that? And I say, well, I cannot say anything

1:16:04 Speaker 2: to you that will interfere with your belief And where

1:16:08 Speaker 2: you are in your understanding of your religious beliefs, all right,

1:16:12 Speaker 2: And it's okay that you believe in God or Buddha

1:16:15 Speaker 2: or Krishna or whatever it is. Everybody has that. But

1:16:20 Speaker 2: you got to remember that were about eight hundred and

1:16:24 Speaker 2: fifty thousand years and in advance of you. So when

1:16:29 Speaker 2: you get that advanced, come and talk to me. Then

1:16:33 Speaker 2: the point being is that you're going to find along

1:16:36 Speaker 2: the way that those religious beliefs and understanding are going

1:16:40 Speaker 2: to change greatly.

1:16:43 Speaker 1: Okay, So was Jesus a real person?

1:16:46 Speaker 2: Your was the real person, but he was not necessarily

1:16:52 Speaker 2: what was purported to be.

1:16:54 Speaker 1: Okay, See that is that's and that is controversial just

1:16:58 Speaker 1: by nature of saying.

1:16:59 Speaker 2: It and the person did he mean well and all

1:17:03 Speaker 2: those things? I go absolutely, But does that mean that

1:17:07 Speaker 2: he was who he claimed to be or otherwise? Again,

1:17:10 Speaker 2: that's you know, open for conjecture or I'm not here

1:17:13 Speaker 2: to prove it or disprove it or even put a

1:17:16 Speaker 2: label on it. That has no bearing on anything. In fact,

1:17:20 Speaker 2: people would do well to do as he had had intented.

1:17:24 Speaker 1: How much does the US government know and our crash retrievals,

1:17:30 Speaker 1: because one of the things we talked about in the

1:17:32 Speaker 1: modern disclosure movement is crash retrievals. If these UFOs are

1:17:37 Speaker 1: so advanced, obviously, the main question being how do they crash?

1:17:41 Speaker 1: Have you developed some sort of technology to bring UFOs down?

1:17:46 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, absolutely?

1:17:49 Speaker 1: Why has not been any retaliation?

1:17:52 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I didn't understand.

1:17:54 Speaker 1: Why is there any retaliation by this?

1:18:02 Speaker 2: There is retaliation to a degree, not open you know, confrontration.

1:18:10 Speaker 2: Most of the retaliatory effort is kind of benign. In

1:18:16 Speaker 2: other words, they do their best to get out of

1:18:19 Speaker 2: the way or that kind of thing. You know. They

1:18:22 Speaker 2: have enough time and enough information. Usually when they're being

1:18:26 Speaker 2: fired upon, they know it. There's been a few videos

1:18:30 Speaker 2: that were shown on television, I forget exactly, which shows

1:18:36 Speaker 2: where certain weapons were being fired and there were pictures

1:18:40 Speaker 2: taken of it, or pictures supposedly taken from the space

1:18:46 Speaker 2: station where a ship was moving and something was fired.

1:18:49 Speaker 3: At that and so it moves out of the way.

1:18:52 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. So there's a number of different things that

1:18:56 Speaker 2: are available, and those are just things that have leaked

1:18:59 Speaker 2: out along no way. But our technology here is sufficient

1:19:04 Speaker 2: to do quite a bit. And so even though our

1:19:09 Speaker 2: people are out there, you know, and there's other races

1:19:13 Speaker 2: as well. They're all pretty careful about not stepping too

1:19:18 Speaker 2: close to the line, as it were. The government knows

1:19:21 Speaker 2: they're there and all that kind of stuff, and they say, okay, fine,

1:19:24 Speaker 2: you can be there, but if you step over that line,

1:19:27 Speaker 2: or if you get too close, we're gonna we're gonna

1:19:30 Speaker 2: powder your back end and let you know. You know.

1:19:33 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like you know the flies are around,

1:19:37 Speaker 2: but you can't get rid of them.

1:19:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that kind of right, right, And I mean,

1:19:45 Speaker 1: why didn't you leave?

1:19:48 Speaker 2: Why didn't we leave?

1:19:50 Speaker 1: Yeah? Why why didn't you? When you completed your contract?

1:19:55 Speaker 1: I suspect that you fell in love with humanity.

1:20:00 Speaker 2: I fell in love with humanity and.

1:20:02 Speaker 1: Maybe one woman. I don't know. I don't know how

1:20:05 Speaker 1: it works, but I suspect that love had something to

1:20:09 Speaker 1: do with you staying.

1:20:10 Speaker 2: It was universal love, would you yeah?

1:20:15 Speaker 1: I think because of that, if you could go back

1:20:19 Speaker 1: in time, would you leave?

1:20:22 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, knowing what I know now and been through

1:20:28 Speaker 2: what I've been through, Yes, I was. I was a goofball.

1:20:33 Speaker 2: I was a fool. I was romanticizing what I was doing, Okay, right, Yeah,

1:20:40 Speaker 2: it looks all great and wonderful and everything until you

1:20:43 Speaker 2: have to sit through all of the challenges, and I've

1:20:49 Speaker 2: had a lot of those your communication. I don't really

1:20:55 Speaker 2: regret it, but yeah, I think I might change that answer.

1:20:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably, And that's I can understand that. I

1:21:05 Speaker 1: can understand that what happens when you die here? Are

1:21:11 Speaker 1: you going to wake up there?

1:21:13 Speaker 2: The original plan was that I was going along with

1:21:17 Speaker 2: the other that I'm involved, if we were going to

1:21:20 Speaker 2: be extracted, okay, they would literally come down, pick us up,

1:21:24 Speaker 2: and we would leave. And that's what I really wanted

1:21:28 Speaker 2: because as an avatar, even though my other body is

1:21:33 Speaker 2: in the immersion pod and all that kind of stuff,

1:21:37 Speaker 2: it's basically just a lifeless body at this point. But

1:21:41 Speaker 2: I got to where I like who I am. I

1:21:45 Speaker 2: enjoy being Dale. I like Dale for who and what

1:21:49 Speaker 2: he is. I don't like looking the way that I

1:21:52 Speaker 2: am at the moment, I don't like feeling the way

1:21:55 Speaker 2: that I feel, but I still like me as a being.

1:22:00 Speaker 2: And I got to the point where I decided I

1:22:03 Speaker 2: want to stay as Dale and when I go back.

1:22:07 Speaker 2: So we were informed that if we did that, there

1:22:11 Speaker 2: would be two of us, all right, it'd be like

1:22:14 Speaker 2: the twins kind of thing, And I said, all right,

1:22:16 Speaker 2: I can live with that. But I got aggravated with

1:22:20 Speaker 2: the idea that if I woke up there and I say,

1:22:27 Speaker 2: if I die here and my went back to my consciousness,

1:22:31 Speaker 2: went back into my regular body where it is currently,

1:22:35 Speaker 2: and you know, I'd wake up and it would be

1:22:38 Speaker 2: kind of like, well, geez, thanks for the vacation Dale,

1:22:41 Speaker 2: nice memories. We'll see you around. And I didn't like

1:22:44 Speaker 2: that idea too much. I wanted to stay as who

1:22:48 Speaker 2: and what I am. Direction that was, like I said,

1:22:51 Speaker 2: the original plan. But things have changed, and a great

1:22:55 Speaker 2: number of beings that are here that were to be

1:22:58 Speaker 2: extracted by various groups I have heard that they are

1:23:02 Speaker 2: not being permitted to do so. That information can change

1:23:06 Speaker 2: or can be wrong at any point in time. So

1:23:09 Speaker 2: I do not have any current confirmation.

1:23:13 Speaker 1: Do you have? Are you in communication with No?

1:23:16 Speaker 2: Well, we're currently not in communication with our group, but.

1:23:20 Speaker 1: Other you could. You could contact others they.

1:23:24 Speaker 2: Hear me telepathically. Obviously. At least I'll take some credit

1:23:29 Speaker 2: for the pictures I sent you regarding my wife's flight

1:23:32 Speaker 2: and the pictures.

1:23:34 Speaker 1: Do you mind if I show those?

1:23:35 Speaker 3: Not at all? Yeah?

1:23:38 Speaker 1: So can you explain what happened there?

1:23:42 Speaker 2: Well, my wife's flight and her destination was a great

1:23:46 Speaker 2: deal away.

1:23:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't we're not going to say where.

1:23:49 Speaker 2: Please esentially essentially the other side of the planet, but

1:23:53 Speaker 2: many in any case, since the flights are so very

1:23:57 Speaker 2: long and so forth, I was watching with both computers

1:24:01 Speaker 2: that I had at the time, a telephone and a pad,

1:24:04 Speaker 2: and I tracked the flights to and from and everything else.

1:24:07 Speaker 2: And I simply asked, I said, please watch over her

1:24:14 Speaker 2: and make sure everything is okay. And so apparently they

1:24:19 Speaker 2: heard that. But during one of the flight's very long flight,

1:24:23 Speaker 2: she's about thirty nine thousand feet, she actually had a

1:24:26 Speaker 2: feeling to look outside the window and she did. It

1:24:30 Speaker 2: was morning time, the sun was kind of coming up

1:24:33 Speaker 2: in a different direction, and the clouds were there, and

1:24:37 Speaker 2: she looked out the window and there's these two crafts

1:24:40 Speaker 2: right alongside the airplane, and she goes wow, and she

1:24:43 Speaker 2: pulled out the phone and she started She took a

1:24:45 Speaker 2: video of one and several stills of both of them.

1:24:49 Speaker 2: One is clearly a saucer and is bright and you

1:24:52 Speaker 2: can see the delineation of the top and bottom and midsections.

1:24:57 Speaker 2: And the other is a cylinder and it's a silver

1:25:01 Speaker 2: long cylinder, which are two of the types of craft

1:25:04 Speaker 2: that my family uses. Like I said, I cannot take

1:25:08 Speaker 2: full responsibility and say, oh, yeah, they did that because

1:25:12 Speaker 2: I asked them to. But it's a pretty big coincidence,

1:25:15 Speaker 2: you know. And my wife is the type of individual

1:25:20 Speaker 2: that as many times has she seen the ships and

1:25:22 Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, she's very zen. She's Buddhist

1:25:26 Speaker 2: or was raised Buddhist, and she doesn't get excited about

1:25:29 Speaker 2: stuff like that. You know, she says, okay, that's nice.

1:25:33 Speaker 2: One time we had five craft appear right in front

1:25:35 Speaker 2: of us, right over our heads. We were on our

1:25:38 Speaker 2: way out for an anniversary dinner, and she likes to

1:25:41 Speaker 2: go to Olive Garden, So, you know, I'm coming out

1:25:45 Speaker 2: the door and I could feel that they were coming,

1:25:47 Speaker 2: and I'm looking and the guy's cleared. There's a puffy

1:25:50 Speaker 2: cloud here and there. And as I stand on the

1:25:53 Speaker 2: top step, I'm finishing locking up the door, and I said,

1:25:56 Speaker 2: they're here, and she says, what, And I said the craft.

1:26:00 Speaker 2: I look up and all of a sudden, like somebody

1:26:01 Speaker 2: squeezed the peapod. One after another, five ships appeared right

1:26:05 Speaker 2: above us. And I'm freaking out because I'm overjoyed, and

1:26:10 Speaker 2: I'm talking and I can hear them in my head

1:26:11 Speaker 2: and this and that, you know, And my wife looks

1:26:14 Speaker 2: up and she says, oh, look at that. And I says, yeah,

1:26:17 Speaker 2: isn't that the coolest? And she says, oh, okay, let's go.

1:26:20 Speaker 2: I'm hungry. Just like that, you know, it blew me away.

1:26:24 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's hilarious.

1:26:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, she's And I said, well, honey,

1:26:31 Speaker 2: I said, don't you ever get excited about anything? And

1:26:34 Speaker 2: she said, you know, the universe is a big place.

1:26:39 Speaker 2: It's full of life. What's the big deal? Says? Life

1:26:43 Speaker 2: is everywhere? So what you know? I said, well, you've

1:26:46 Speaker 2: known since we've been married twenty one years who I

1:26:49 Speaker 2: am and what I am. I said, none of it

1:26:52 Speaker 2: affects you. I said, you've seen more craft than most.

1:26:55 Speaker 2: And she's, you know, like, yeah, so no big deal.

1:26:59 Speaker 2: If they land in the backyard, knocked on the door

1:27:01 Speaker 2: and you know whatever, and she answered, and she'd open

1:27:05 Speaker 2: the door, she'd say, hi, come on, in just a minute,

1:27:07 Speaker 2: I'll get dail. You know, that's that's just exactly the

1:27:10 Speaker 2: way she would act. It just doesn't affect her.

1:27:13 Speaker 1: It would just be another day.

1:27:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, just another day.

1:27:16 Speaker 1: You know, it's another day with Dale.

1:27:18 Speaker 2: She's absolutely used to the whole thing and and her

1:27:21 Speaker 2: upbringing and beliefs are you know, it is what it is.

1:27:25 Speaker 2: Life is everywhere.

1:27:26 Speaker 3: So what have you ever.

1:27:30 Speaker 1: Have you ever wanted to like get the the implant

1:27:36 Speaker 1: tested by others, like and show them like, hey, yes

1:27:40 Speaker 1: I did.

1:27:41 Speaker 2: Okay, I did, and I was thwarted at every turn.

1:27:46 Speaker 2: Interesting move On blacklisted me. In fact, they wouldn't even

1:27:50 Speaker 2: take a look at it. They move on themselves, would

1:27:54 Speaker 2: not have anything to do with it. They blacklisted me

1:27:56 Speaker 2: and said, oh he's a nutcase and they wouldn't even

1:27:59 Speaker 2: look at it.

1:28:00 Speaker 1: Yet, You've been employed by NASA and large Honeywell is

1:28:08 Speaker 1: a large companyspace. Yeah, and people think they just make

1:28:13 Speaker 1: like thermostats, you're you you don't know the half of it.

1:28:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, but you know much more than that.

1:28:21 Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's what I find the most interesting about you,

1:28:27 Speaker 1: not the fact that you I mean, I mean, obviously

1:28:30 Speaker 1: I'm alien. I don't I don't even like that word alien.

1:28:36 Speaker 1: But visitor, the visitor that you are, that is you know,

1:28:42 Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the reality of it. I find

1:28:45 Speaker 1: it very interesting that you worked at NASA, and it

1:28:52 Speaker 1: just flows me away.

1:28:55 Speaker 2: Teaching about the idea of me being who are you know?

1:28:59 Speaker 2: They didn't they didn't embrace that.

1:29:01 Speaker 1: Did you ever hold a security clearance?

1:29:04 Speaker 2: Yes, top secret DoD security clearance.

1:29:08 Speaker 1: My god, did you ever ever? I mean you had

1:29:11 Speaker 1: to have been. Did you ever see anything over like

1:29:14 Speaker 1: any NASA facilities that like, hey, we're watching you. Yes,

1:29:20 Speaker 1: Can you describe an event?

1:29:22 Speaker 2: Maybe we had one saucer that came in extremely low,

1:29:27 Speaker 2: was about fifty feet up, sat right over the heads

1:29:30 Speaker 2: of another friend of myself and in the one of

1:29:33 Speaker 2: the yards there.

1:29:35 Speaker 1: So this is a NASA facility, add facility, whatever it is.

1:29:39 Speaker 1: You don't have to say what it is. Yeah, and

1:29:41 Speaker 1: there so I mean this activity is you'd have to

1:29:46 Speaker 1: assume that NASA has cameras.

1:29:48 Speaker 2: Everywhere, right, absolutely, Yeah.

1:29:50 Speaker 1: So that event they would have caught.

1:29:53 Speaker 2: And that well, you know, I can say that the place,

1:29:57 Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. That was NASA Lewis at

1:30:00 Speaker 2: the time, which became NASA Glenn later on as I

1:30:04 Speaker 2: worked there.

1:30:05 Speaker 1: Where's that That's in Cleveland, Ohio.

1:30:09 Speaker 2: It's actually in brook Park, but in the airport Cleveland

1:30:13 Speaker 2: Hopkins Airport International Airport, is connected to part of that

1:30:17 Speaker 2: property there, you know, So why in the world they

1:30:22 Speaker 2: wouldn't have noticed it with the the tower, you know,

1:30:26 Speaker 2: the aircraft control tower and all that stuff sitting right there.

1:30:29 Speaker 2: But yeah, and there's been other instances that I've had

1:30:33 Speaker 2: that they should have clearly, clearly seen it, But there's

1:30:37 Speaker 2: never a word as ever said so.

1:30:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've never gotten pulled into a skiff or anything

1:30:42 Speaker 1: and said, hey the fuck are you doing?

1:30:44 Speaker 2: No?

1:30:45 Speaker 3: Nothing interesting?

1:30:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, any sightings like mass sightings or like a lot

1:30:54 Speaker 1: of people remember the Phoenix lights? What what happened there?

1:31:00 Speaker 2: What happened there?

1:31:01 Speaker 1: Yeah? What was that?

1:31:02 Speaker 3: Was that?

1:31:03 Speaker 1: Was that a non human craft?

1:31:04 Speaker 2: Or was that it was nonhuman? Yeah?

1:31:07 Speaker 1: It was nonhuman.

1:31:08 Speaker 2: My my current understanding is that it was an ANDROMAA

1:31:12 Speaker 2: in craft.

1:31:13 Speaker 1: Why did it do what it did?

1:31:16 Speaker 2: I don't have an answer for that, speculate only they

1:31:19 Speaker 2: really know for certain. Uh. The only speculation that I

1:31:23 Speaker 2: would have is that they were having some difficulty with

1:31:27 Speaker 2: certain systems and they didn't have a kind of a choice.

1:31:30 Speaker 2: They were in an attempt to repair. Technology fails. It

1:31:34 Speaker 2: doesn't matter who makes it or how great it is.

1:31:37 Speaker 2: Technology always fails. You know, It's and that's the nature

1:31:41 Speaker 2: of things.

1:31:42 Speaker 1: So it was just a coincidence that everyone happened to

1:31:45 Speaker 1: be already looked up that night.

1:31:47 Speaker 2: Well I'm not sure which event attracted which event, but

1:31:52 Speaker 2: there was a lot more to it than people know.

1:31:55 Speaker 2: And Patrick James did a really, really good thing with

1:31:58 Speaker 2: his video in the Phoenix Lights. He went into depth

1:32:02 Speaker 2: and things that most people do not.

1:32:04 Speaker 1: And I'm in conversation right now with doctor Katai about

1:32:09 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny because I'm kind of like following

1:32:11 Speaker 1: Patrick but not really like I don't mean to, but

1:32:15 Speaker 1: I keep talking, I keep focusing on something like the

1:32:19 Speaker 1: videos he did. I keep finding myself like wanting to

1:32:22 Speaker 1: talk to the people myself. Yeah, and that's here, you know,

1:32:26 Speaker 1: that's what brought us together. So he's doing a great job.

1:32:29 Speaker 1: I'll link the video.

1:32:30 Speaker 2: A great guy. You you love you know, you should

1:32:33 Speaker 2: meet him and talk to him. He's really a wonderful individual.

1:32:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

1:32:39 Speaker 3: Friends, yeah, you know, he seems genuine.

1:32:41 Speaker 2: He's as a truth seeker just as yourself. And so

1:32:45 Speaker 2: working with him was a joy. And you know, yeah,

1:32:49 Speaker 2: you made.

1:32:50 Speaker 1: An appearance in his his video after that, and and

1:32:55 Speaker 1: am I mistaken in saying it was it was it

1:32:57 Speaker 1: Mount Shasta.

1:32:59 Speaker 2: I helped him some what with the Phoenix lights, and

1:33:01 Speaker 2: then I did my video personally with him, and then

1:33:04 Speaker 2: he had the next video was the Superstition Mountains, in

1:33:08 Speaker 2: which I did a lead in.

1:33:10 Speaker 1: So what is the Superstition Mountains.

1:33:13 Speaker 2: Oh, that's where the Superstition gold Mine was, and the

1:33:16 Speaker 2: little people and all the things that the psychic things

1:33:19 Speaker 2: that happened, and where people have died hunting for the

1:33:22 Speaker 2: gold mine and all that stuff.

1:33:24 Speaker 1: So again this brings us to this question of little

1:33:31 Speaker 1: people and stuff like that. Are they talking about aliens

1:33:33 Speaker 1: or are they talking I mean non human intelligence? Are

1:33:36 Speaker 1: they talking about like cryptids and bigfoots like that? Is

1:33:40 Speaker 1: there any truth to that?

1:33:42 Speaker 2: Yes, there is truth to the cryptid stuff and bigfoot

1:33:45 Speaker 2: is definitely real. But what I don't know, what I

1:33:49 Speaker 2: can't figure out, is why the hell they just won't

1:33:51 Speaker 2: leave them alone. You know, they're here doing their thing,

1:33:56 Speaker 2: and one of these days somebody's going to come up

1:33:58 Speaker 2: on one of those beings and take it off to

1:34:01 Speaker 2: the point where it's going to grab them and rip

1:34:03 Speaker 2: their face off, and that's going to be the end

1:34:05 Speaker 2: of that.

1:34:06 Speaker 1: Right.

1:34:08 Speaker 2: You know, the lions in the cage. Why would you

1:34:10 Speaker 2: keep taunting you? You know, they don't want to be

1:34:15 Speaker 2: bothered by humanity. If they did, they'd make themselves visible, right,

1:34:19 Speaker 2: But they know that they would probably be shot at

1:34:22 Speaker 2: or dissected or hurt or whatever. And I personally agree

1:34:27 Speaker 2: with them. I would stay the hell away from humanity too.

1:34:30 Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's weird because they're often, you know, if

1:34:34 Speaker 1: there's a bigfoot sighting or anything like cattlemulation, oftentimes there's

1:34:39 Speaker 1: also a UFO scene in the area, and and and

1:34:43 Speaker 1: that just I mean, that's not I don't again, I

1:34:46 Speaker 1: don't believe in coincidence. So these things are another being,

1:34:52 Speaker 1: just another.

1:34:53 Speaker 2: Being in the another being. They're not necessarily native to Earth,

1:34:57 Speaker 2: but they have been brought here for various reasons. They

1:35:00 Speaker 2: have certain telepathic and kinetic capabilities. They're able to move

1:35:06 Speaker 2: in and out of time and space and do different things,

1:35:09 Speaker 2: and so you know, they can be quite elusive. But

1:35:13 Speaker 2: one of these days, like I said, they're going to

1:35:15 Speaker 2: get in a position where somebody's going to get hurt

1:35:18 Speaker 2: if they haven't been already, you know, and I mean

1:35:21 Speaker 2: seriously hurt. You know, you've got details where these people

1:35:24 Speaker 2: are camping out and they're chasing them through the woods

1:35:27 Speaker 2: and all these different things. One of these days, somebody's

1:35:30 Speaker 2: going to make a mistake, in my opinion. All right,

1:35:33 Speaker 2: this is my conjecture, my opinion. But I really think

1:35:37 Speaker 2: they're going about it in the wrong way. If Bigfoot

1:35:41 Speaker 2: wanted to be contacted or wanted to be seen, they

1:35:44 Speaker 2: would do so. Yes, they are intelligent creatures and they

1:35:48 Speaker 2: do have abilities. So again, you know, be careful what

1:35:54 Speaker 2: you ask for.

1:35:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, be careful what you wish for, right,

1:35:59 Speaker 1: And I guess So.

1:36:03 Speaker 2: What is the Perissian mountains and the little people and

1:36:05 Speaker 2: all that stuffy they have been conjectured to be et

1:36:09 Speaker 2: in nature or what have you. But there's been stories

1:36:12 Speaker 2: of little people all over the planet, Ireland and things

1:36:16 Speaker 2: like that, and you know where they have the fairy

1:36:19 Speaker 2: mounds and so forth, and the people truly believe in them,

1:36:23 Speaker 2: you know. And then they go along with the gins

1:36:25 Speaker 2: and the various other people and cryptids that have been

1:36:29 Speaker 2: described and talked about. You know, there are mysteries all

1:36:33 Speaker 2: over this planet. Right.

1:36:35 Speaker 1: One of the one of those very very odd places

1:36:39 Speaker 1: is skin Walk, a.

1:36:40 Speaker 3: Ranch, oh yeah.

1:36:42 Speaker 1: Where the phenomenon phenomena seem to kind of splinter over

1:36:49 Speaker 1: or converge. It seems like it's almost like the veil

1:36:53 Speaker 1: seems thinnest. There are there such things as like places

1:36:59 Speaker 1: like that where like what is going on there? Is

1:37:02 Speaker 1: it a multi is it a portal? Is it a.

1:37:06 Speaker 2: There's a conglomeration of different things that are happening there.

1:37:13 Speaker 2: And I've done my best to contact all those people

1:37:16 Speaker 2: in that entire group to give them information, but they

1:37:19 Speaker 2: won't pay any attention. They don't even respond.

1:37:23 Speaker 1: What are you trying to tell them? If they were

1:37:25 Speaker 1: watching right now? What would you tell them?

1:37:28 Speaker 2: Various tests that they could run, things that they should

1:37:30 Speaker 2: be looking at, that they're not doing, what they're actually

1:37:34 Speaker 2: seeing and why and stuff like that. You know, I

1:37:38 Speaker 2: don't really want to go into too much detail on

1:37:41 Speaker 2: the air about that, but yeah, there's there's some things

1:37:44 Speaker 2: I could.

1:37:44 Speaker 3: Help them with interesting, interesting.

1:37:48 Speaker 2: And you know, I think I also mentioned to you

1:37:51 Speaker 2: about the Rosswell rock, also about the key.

1:37:56 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, right right?

1:37:58 Speaker 2: Can you tell me that the dimensional doorways and different

1:38:02 Speaker 2: things like the doorway and peruin so forth. That there's

1:38:07 Speaker 2: things that I believe that would be a benefit if

1:38:10 Speaker 2: they would listen. But you know, I can't get anybody

1:38:13 Speaker 2: pay any attention.

1:38:15 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that so so roswell funny that you bring

1:38:19 Speaker 1: it up, because it's been brought up again in this

1:38:21 Speaker 1: recent documentary that's making the rounds age of disclosure. And

1:38:26 Speaker 1: it's really odd that the way you told us today,

1:38:29 Speaker 1: that that you travel by creating this bubble around the

1:38:32 Speaker 1: ship is exactly what Hell put off in doctor Eric

1:38:35 Speaker 1: Davis uh beer eyes in that movie. Is that that

1:38:40 Speaker 1: that that is exactly you described to a t exactly

1:38:44 Speaker 1: what they're saying. And it seems like again we've got

1:38:48 Speaker 1: maybe the information we've gotten is is backwards liked. So

1:38:53 Speaker 1: it seems we've gotten that information from you rather than

1:38:58 Speaker 1: you getting that information from us.

1:39:00 Speaker 2: Right, It's come from various et sources and it was

1:39:04 Speaker 2: given on purpose. Again, like I said, Bryan.

1:39:07 Speaker 3: Aclamy is valiant.

1:39:09 Speaker 1: There's a story about this guy, Valiant.

1:39:10 Speaker 2: Thorn, one of our group.

1:39:14 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

1:39:15 Speaker 2: No?

1:39:16 Speaker 1: So what was his mission?

1:39:19 Speaker 3: His mission got high up.

1:39:20 Speaker 2: Literally from fifty two to about fifty four. He was

1:39:25 Speaker 2: here for three years. He came in his little ship

1:39:27 Speaker 2: called the Victor one, and he did his absolute best,

1:39:31 Speaker 2: just as I and others are trying to do. To

1:39:34 Speaker 2: talk to government, to talk to various people higher up,

1:39:38 Speaker 2: to tell people the truth of what they knew and

1:39:41 Speaker 2: what we were doing, especially to inform humanity about the

1:39:44 Speaker 2: dangers of nuclear weapons and the destruction that they caused,

1:39:50 Speaker 2: not just a bomb on a surface, but what a

1:39:54 Speaker 2: nuclear weapon actually does when it explodes, and how deeply

1:39:59 Speaker 2: it affects all life forms. So, you know, and it

1:40:04 Speaker 2: just tears me apart. I think that we've actually detonated

1:40:07 Speaker 2: more than one thousand nuclear weapons on this planet to date,

1:40:15 Speaker 2: and all of that, a lot of it has been

1:40:17 Speaker 2: underground or in the ocean.

1:40:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's psychotic, you.

1:40:21 Speaker 2: Know, it's just think for a moment of what they're

1:40:25 Speaker 2: doing to Mother Earth, to Gia, and Earth is a

1:40:29 Speaker 2: living being. I have a very very good relationship with

1:40:33 Speaker 2: with Mother Earth, Queen Guya. And you know, I can

1:40:37 Speaker 2: go outside and ask her to move the clouds and

1:40:40 Speaker 2: she will, you know it.

1:40:43 Speaker 1: So what is that just like having a respect.

1:40:45 Speaker 2: For her, absolute absolute respect for Mother Earth. I have

1:40:50 Speaker 2: never littered or done anything in my lifetime that would

1:40:55 Speaker 2: cause the slightest bit of damage to Mother Earth. I

1:40:59 Speaker 2: have a connection with all plants, all trees. That's the

1:41:03 Speaker 2: reason I raised the bump side and everything. I talked

1:41:07 Speaker 2: to them. I can talk to something.

1:41:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, you told me about that. Yeah, it's interesting, right

1:41:14 Speaker 1: because I now I've taken certain drugs, like you know, ayahuasca, mushrooms. Yeah,

1:41:25 Speaker 1: and and during those experiences it does something you You

1:41:33 Speaker 1: start looking around. And I remember the first time, one

1:41:36 Speaker 1: of the first times after I did mushrooms, where I

1:41:39 Speaker 1: was looking at the trees like blowing and the grass

1:41:42 Speaker 1: blowing in the wind, and I knew why they were

1:41:47 Speaker 1: Like I, I understood fundamentally like this cycle of life

1:41:51 Speaker 1: and ecosystems, and I had a different appreciation for it.

1:41:55 Speaker 1: I don't kill ant bugs anymore. I get them and

1:41:58 Speaker 1: I moved them outside.

1:42:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

1:42:02 Speaker 1: And people will call you like a tree hugger. But

1:42:04 Speaker 1: when I go into the woods, I usually put my

1:42:07 Speaker 1: hand on a tree and I say, you know, I'm

1:42:09 Speaker 1: here to observe, not to disturb.

1:42:12 Speaker 2: Exactly. That's a great thing to do because they respond

1:42:18 Speaker 2: and they know they do. Every tree out there is

1:42:21 Speaker 2: connected to every other tree, whether it's around the world.

1:42:25 Speaker 2: There are trees and even documented cases of where one

1:42:29 Speaker 2: tree might be suffering missing nutrients and energy and other

1:42:33 Speaker 2: trees will give up their food and energy to help

1:42:36 Speaker 2: the one that is struggling. Yes, they absolutely are. They're

1:42:41 Speaker 2: a unified race and our plants plants respond in the

1:42:46 Speaker 2: same fashion. My wife and I grow orchids in our

1:42:50 Speaker 2: home that are rare orchids, and most people couldn't even

1:42:53 Speaker 2: think about raising, and we get three hundred and fifty

1:42:56 Speaker 2: blooms a year. You know, it's like it's all because

1:43:00 Speaker 2: of how we treat them and how we talk to

1:43:02 Speaker 2: them and look at them, and we certainly don't put

1:43:06 Speaker 2: ice on them. I can tell you that, oh, good lord,

1:43:11 Speaker 2: put an ice cube. You go and buy an orchid

1:43:13 Speaker 2: from the store and they tell you put an ice

1:43:15 Speaker 2: cube on it the water. Would you like to have

1:43:17 Speaker 2: somebody grab you and stick you in a bucket of ice?

1:43:20 Speaker 1: No, come on, that's no, absolutely not.

1:43:24 Speaker 2: It makes no sense whatsoever. But you know, the whole

1:43:28 Speaker 2: point is that there isn't a square millimeter on this

1:43:32 Speaker 2: entire planet that isn't alive. Interesting all the way through

1:43:37 Speaker 2: the center. There is life everywhere.

1:43:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I think that's something that we're starting

1:43:43 Speaker 1: to see as technology progresses. Of course, people are doing

1:43:47 Speaker 1: experiments that that that you know, just unfathomable, Like like

1:43:52 Speaker 1: you said, and I think we are like are do

1:43:57 Speaker 1: you see with all the bad that seems to be,

1:44:02 Speaker 1: you know, kind of towded by the mainstream media and

1:44:05 Speaker 1: this idea that you know, it's just all all bad news.

1:44:11 Speaker 2: Do you see they thrive on it.

1:44:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely do. And that's that's how I know

1:44:16 Speaker 1: evil exists. That's how I know evil exists born.

1:44:22 Speaker 2: I was telling you about it all It is the

1:44:24 Speaker 2: keep humanity stirred up all the time, and when one

1:44:28 Speaker 2: thing happens and it gets everybody stirred up, there's a

1:44:31 Speaker 2: mass shooting, a mass bombing or whatever, and as soon

1:44:34 Speaker 2: as that calms down a little bit, there's something else

1:44:37 Speaker 2: right away to take its place. It's constant and forever

1:44:41 Speaker 2: and you can follow it every single minute of every.

1:44:44 Speaker 1: Day, and has all the makings of a psychological operation

1:44:47 Speaker 1: as well. It is you know, repeat, discredit, rinse again,

1:44:53 Speaker 1: repeat right, you know, And and that's it concerns me.

1:45:00 Speaker 1: It does, so were any of the presidents? Is there any?

1:45:08 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, because Marco Rubio just even said it

1:45:13 Speaker 1: in this documentary Age of Disclosure, which I don't really recommend.

1:45:17 Speaker 1: It's not that I don't recommend it, but if you

1:45:19 Speaker 1: know the topic, you know the topic. It's nothing new.

1:45:22 Speaker 1: But he does say something interesting where he said that,

1:45:27 Speaker 1: you know, presidents are even operating on a need to

1:45:30 Speaker 1: know basis at this point, you know, what was the

1:45:33 Speaker 1: last president? Because a lot of people talk about Eisenhower

1:45:37 Speaker 1: in this meeting, this meeting between so it looks like

1:45:41 Speaker 1: he met on two occasions, once with what you would

1:45:45 Speaker 1: consider the tall whites and then once with a more

1:45:49 Speaker 1: gray being.

1:45:52 Speaker 2: Well, really he met with the grays, and he also

1:45:55 Speaker 2: met with my group.

1:45:56 Speaker 1: Okay, and one promised.

1:45:58 Speaker 2: Him human looking as you and I.

1:46:01 Speaker 3: Okay, so no.

1:46:03 Speaker 2: Real differences there. What makes me crazy is that they've

1:46:07 Speaker 2: got these god awful pictures that they often attached to

1:46:10 Speaker 2: the what they think these races are what they look like,

1:46:13 Speaker 2: and they're always so horrific looking or nasty or big teeth. Third,

1:46:18 Speaker 2: you know, that's the furthest thing from the truth. They're

1:46:22 Speaker 2: not that way, at least the majority of them are not.

1:46:26 Speaker 2: So the representation of them is terrible to begin with, right,

1:46:31 Speaker 2: you know, because I guess the hardest thing for humanity

1:46:34 Speaker 2: would beat to have a spacecraft land and the people

1:46:37 Speaker 2: get off the ship and they look just like them so,

1:46:43 Speaker 2: but that's the truth. That's the truth and the nature

1:46:45 Speaker 2: of it. It's because we are related to about twelve

1:46:50 Speaker 2: different races. We have genetics of about twelve different races

1:46:54 Speaker 2: in human race.

1:46:56 Speaker 1: So do you think that's why they don't want us

1:46:59 Speaker 1: to know. They don't want want us to know that

1:47:00 Speaker 1: we're we're all like a cosmic brother.

1:47:04 Speaker 2: We are part of the universe as a whole. We

1:47:07 Speaker 2: are cosmic brothers. But maintaining the secrecy and maintaining the

1:47:13 Speaker 2: power and the control over people is what gives them

1:47:17 Speaker 2: the power, right, you take that away, and all of

1:47:21 Speaker 2: a sudden, we might have free energy. We might have

1:47:24 Speaker 2: you know, a medicine that actually works instead of the

1:47:28 Speaker 2: pharma and all the junk that's worthless. You know, everything

1:47:31 Speaker 2: is designed to make money. It's not designed to help.

1:47:35 Speaker 2: But if all of that stuff went away, you know,

1:47:38 Speaker 2: then all the world would change overnight, wouldn't it. And

1:47:41 Speaker 2: then well maybe human beings would wake up and they

1:47:45 Speaker 2: become part of the galactic universe as a whole, which

1:47:50 Speaker 2: is where we should be, where we should strive to be.

1:47:53 Speaker 2: But we don't really have the place there yet. We're not.

1:47:58 Speaker 2: We haven't been liberated for everyone to realize who and

1:48:01 Speaker 2: what they are and that they do belong there. They've

1:48:04 Speaker 2: been They've been lied to for too long time. They

1:48:08 Speaker 2: haven't got a clue.

1:48:10 Speaker 1: What's it going to take at this point for the world,

1:48:15 Speaker 1: not just the United States, but the world to wake up.

1:48:22 Speaker 2: A lot of the world is actually further ahead of

1:48:25 Speaker 2: the United States as far as waking up is concerned.

1:48:28 Speaker 2: You know, if you look at Chile and Peru and

1:48:31 Speaker 2: various places, they talk about this stuff openly and they

1:48:33 Speaker 2: don't hide it, you know, U this is some of

1:48:37 Speaker 2: the most secretive that ever right. You know, it's again,

1:48:42 Speaker 2: it's all about that control, all about that power. Right.

1:48:47 Speaker 2: Why they think they're going to lose control over things.

1:48:50 Speaker 2: I think they would actually be in a better position

1:48:53 Speaker 2: if they would just wake up and let go. But

1:48:55 Speaker 2: that's the negative forces that are doing that. And the

1:48:59 Speaker 2: negative of forces literally feed upon negative energy. Right.

1:49:05 Speaker 1: There's people when they come into a room, and I've

1:49:11 Speaker 1: experienced this on multiple occasions, where someone will walk into

1:49:15 Speaker 1: the room and they're just they're like an energy vampire.

1:49:20 Speaker 1: They suck the energy out of the room.

1:49:22 Speaker 2: Right there.

1:49:24 Speaker 3: Are you feel it.

1:49:27 Speaker 2: Like that? There are beings that don't There are soulless,

1:49:31 Speaker 2: and there's quite a number of them that are here,

1:49:33 Speaker 2: and their soulless beings and their purpose is to do just.

1:49:37 Speaker 3: That two literally negative out of.

1:49:43 Speaker 2: A room, to you know, control and do different things. Yeah,

1:49:47 Speaker 2: oh god, there are plenty of soulless beings that are here. Walking.

1:49:51 Speaker 3: Soul is unique day.

1:49:54 Speaker 1: So if is this so, I think a lot of

1:49:57 Speaker 1: people His soul is your soul separate from it has

1:50:01 Speaker 1: to be if what we're talking about is true, It

1:50:04 Speaker 1: is right, but it's it's not consciousness.

1:50:09 Speaker 2: The soul is consciousness. The soul is everything that you are.

1:50:14 Speaker 2: But at this moment, only a small portion of your

1:50:18 Speaker 2: soul is currently here experiencing this planet, this this universe,

1:50:24 Speaker 2: if you will, all right, And the rest of you

1:50:27 Speaker 2: is elsewhere doing other things, your higher self. So yeah,

1:50:33 Speaker 2: but that's the part that is that is forever, that's

1:50:36 Speaker 2: the part that is universal energy. That's the part that

1:50:39 Speaker 2: everything and everyone are part of. There's no difference between

1:50:44 Speaker 2: you or me or anyone else. We are all connected.

1:50:49 Speaker 1: So there's no such thing as heaven.

1:50:53 Speaker 2: That's kind of a loose term for a thing that

1:50:57 Speaker 2: most people don't have any idea about in the first place.

1:51:00 Speaker 1: Right, Well, this idea of like a paradise, right like,

1:51:04 Speaker 1: and that's it's probably that's probably the true part. But

1:51:07 Speaker 1: it's not this paradise that like.

1:51:09 Speaker 2: If we if we all learned to respect and love

1:51:14 Speaker 2: one another and to care for one another, if we

1:51:18 Speaker 2: all understood that every life or every individual was as

1:51:23 Speaker 2: important as the next, that would be.

1:51:26 Speaker 1: Paradise, right right, that's a very yeah, that's a good

1:51:31 Speaker 1: way to see.

1:51:31 Speaker 2: It, because there are places in this planet where life

1:51:36 Speaker 2: is cheaper than the garbage you walk on.

1:51:42 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's tough.

1:51:45 Speaker 2: If a lack of respect for right, the individuals that

1:51:50 Speaker 2: have that lack of respect have no understanding of what

1:51:54 Speaker 2: life is or what it means. It is simply pure

1:51:59 Speaker 2: control for the sake of fear.

1:52:01 Speaker 3: And control, thank god.

1:52:05 Speaker 2: So when you think about that to the end degree,

1:52:09 Speaker 2: it's just it's frightening.

1:52:10 Speaker 1: It is frightening. It is.

1:52:14 Speaker 2: And there are individuals, solace or otherwise that are wandering

1:52:18 Speaker 2: around out there right now that are looking at you

1:52:20 Speaker 2: and me and thinking what meaningless things those are? What

1:52:26 Speaker 2: what they would like to do to squash us, to

1:52:28 Speaker 2: reach out and just smash us. We have no purpose

1:52:33 Speaker 2: for being whatsoever. We're not even worth the skin we're in.

1:52:37 Speaker 1: But we're more valuable.

1:52:39 Speaker 2: Where there are plenty of people that don't think that way. So,

1:52:44 Speaker 2: you know, we are faced with a very serious situation

1:52:50 Speaker 2: where Earth is at right now, and this is the

1:52:54 Speaker 2: make or the break, the awakening of humanity, and it's

1:52:59 Speaker 2: a painful process, as you and I both know.

1:53:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, the caterpillar struggles. You got it right to become

1:53:07 Speaker 1: the butterfly. There's it doesn't come easy.

1:53:09 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't.

1:53:11 Speaker 3: So but we will ai more.

1:53:14 Speaker 2: I think in the end. In the meantime, many many

1:53:19 Speaker 2: people are going to be.

1:53:20 Speaker 1: Leaving understood understood. What do you believe is humanity's destiny?

1:53:30 Speaker 2: Our destiny? Our potential here is unlike many others in

1:53:35 Speaker 2: the universe, we have the potential to become one of

1:53:38 Speaker 2: the greatest of races of beings, of nations, of a

1:53:44 Speaker 2: unified world. We have the greatest potential. That is hard

1:53:48 Speaker 2: to it. You can't even put it into words. Humanity's

1:53:52 Speaker 2: potential is limitless. And what we need to do is

1:53:56 Speaker 2: to discover who and what we are as beings here

1:54:01 Speaker 2: and just what we have and can bring to the

1:54:04 Speaker 2: party of the universe. It's that simple.

1:54:07 Speaker 1: Well, something tells me that, like we're not. Our purpose

1:54:09 Speaker 1: isn't just to go to a job that you hate

1:54:11 Speaker 1: eight hours a day and just you know, just exists

1:54:15 Speaker 1: to survive and put like money at food on the table.

1:54:20 Speaker 1: Like there is a higher purpose to what being a

1:54:22 Speaker 1: human means. Believe and not as it seems like we're

1:54:27 Speaker 1: stuck like a lot. Most people go to an office

1:54:29 Speaker 1: job that they hate. They work eight hours a day,

1:54:33 Speaker 1: fifty fifty hours a week doing something that that that

1:54:38 Speaker 1: it's mind numbing they hate. They hate it. And then

1:54:43 Speaker 1: how do we I feel like we're a rabbit? A

1:54:46 Speaker 1: rabbit but a answer on the wheel, yeap.

1:54:48 Speaker 2: And you'll forgive me for this. But as my very good,

1:54:53 Speaker 2: dear departed friend Jordan Maxwell would say, we are in

1:54:57 Speaker 2: the Babylonian money magic. It is all about creating and

1:55:05 Speaker 2: providing for those that are ruling over us. We are

1:55:10 Speaker 2: not supposed to understand who and what we are. We're

1:55:13 Speaker 2: not supposed to realize our potential. We're not supposed to

1:55:16 Speaker 2: wake up. We're supposed to just toil and provide the

1:55:21 Speaker 2: spoils for the others, right, right, And that's what's.

1:55:24 Speaker 3: Going on, right? I agree?

1:55:27 Speaker 1: I really do.

1:55:30 Speaker 2: You know so. Yeah, somebody will probably do their best

1:55:33 Speaker 2: to reach out and try and whack me for saying so,

1:55:35 Speaker 2: but hey, truth is truth. You know what?

1:55:39 Speaker 3: Can I use it?

1:55:41 Speaker 2: There's something to it anyway? What is that?

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