Former Dept. Of Defense Official Lives "Double Life," While Having Contact With ExtraTerrestrial Beings

0:16 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Total Disclosure across all platforms,

0:21 Speaker 1: where we explore the mysteries of the unknown, from citings,

0:25 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, we dive deep into the unexplained occurrences in

0:30 Speaker 1: our skies and on the ground. And if you're intrigued

0:34 Speaker 1: about the possibility of extraterrestrial life being here and in

0:38 Speaker 1: the cosmos, then you're in the right place. Today we

0:41 Speaker 1: have a really, really, really fun guest with a huge

0:47 Speaker 1: insight into the military industrial complex, which is something I

0:51 Speaker 1: really am fascinated here with and that's why I have

0:54 Speaker 1: the people I have on Nancy Times is x DoD official,

1:01 Speaker 1: and we're going to bring her in and welcome her

1:03 Speaker 1: to this whole little disclosure for the first time. Thank you, Nancy.

1:07 Speaker 1: I probably butchered your last name just because you said

1:10 Speaker 1: it to me like three times, and that's how I

1:12 Speaker 1: do it.

1:13 Speaker 2: Yes, that's okay, Tim, that's okay. Yes, thank you for

1:23 Speaker 2: having me. I'm very happy to be here. You know,

1:26 Speaker 2: this is along awaited event, and you know, I think

1:30 Speaker 2: it's just the beginning of it. I don't know how

1:32 Speaker 2: long it's going to take, but we have to be

1:34 Speaker 2: in this for the long haul regardless, and it's important

1:37 Speaker 2: every little bit of information, every person that we can

1:40 Speaker 2: touch and also motivate to get involved is very important

1:45 Speaker 2: because we all need good information. We've got plenty of

1:50 Speaker 2: misinformation out here, so it's good that we get people

1:53 Speaker 2: out to tell the truth, you know, and just spread

1:58 Speaker 2: the word and let people know that they are a

2:01 Speaker 2: part of this because in my opinion, humanity is the

2:05 Speaker 2: disclosure and that's because we're going through an evolutionary phase

2:10 Speaker 2: of waking up and going through an ascension, and I

2:13 Speaker 2: think we're finally understanding who we truly are. And by

2:17 Speaker 2: the time we get to the end of this ascension

2:21 Speaker 2: and evolutionary phase, it won't matter whether the government tells

2:26 Speaker 2: us or not. They've told us enough already in my opinion,

2:29 Speaker 2: but the world wants more, of course. But if there's

2:32 Speaker 2: enough evidence out there with doesn't take a lot of

2:35 Speaker 2: intelligence to understand that they've told us enough, and we

2:38 Speaker 2: have to do a little homework ourselves. And the way

2:42 Speaker 2: I understand it is humanity waking up and finally becoming

2:47 Speaker 2: more intelligent and more conscious about these things, more aware,

2:52 Speaker 2: and our ability to see more things in the sky

2:56 Speaker 2: will increase, and that's going to answer a lot of

2:59 Speaker 2: the questions take a lot of it off the government.

3:02 Speaker 1: Well that you know, it's kind of weird. You mentioned

3:05 Speaker 1: that it's almost synchronicity. Uh. Yeah, it is a synchronicity

3:10 Speaker 1: because I you know, recently, especially recently with the geopolitical landscape,

3:18 Speaker 1: things being tense, and you know, a huge, a huge

3:24 Speaker 1: I can't even stress the fact of the monumental election

3:30 Speaker 1: that is that is uh in upcoming uh in the

3:35 Speaker 1: upcoming months is you know, it's going to shape the

3:38 Speaker 1: way we we the world, which way we go. And

3:43 Speaker 1: and I think that even though disclosure in UFOs and

3:48 Speaker 1: and and the et agenda wasn't brought up and say

3:52 Speaker 1: the debates or hasn't been a main focus of any

3:56 Speaker 1: of the parties, that's not to say that behind closes

4:00 Speaker 1: stores it isn't, because I think it absolutely is and

4:06 Speaker 1: it has to be. You've been what I what I

4:10 Speaker 1: didn't say in your intro is you've also had a

4:13 Speaker 1: lifelong contact experience, so you not only are you an

4:18 Speaker 1: ex do O D official, but you've also had a

4:23 Speaker 1: lifelong experience with some sort of non human intelligence. And

4:29 Speaker 1: I really want to get into that, and and of

4:32 Speaker 1: course you know we'll get into you know, time for

4:34 Speaker 1: disclosure and what you're doing and all that, all the

4:38 Speaker 1: great stuff you're doing now, but I want to really

4:40 Speaker 1: get a look into Nancy. Tim's the person who is

4:46 Speaker 1: the experiencer. Now, maybe start from the beginning for anyone

4:52 Speaker 1: who doesn't know you.

4:54 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a lifelong contact day with interdimensional beings and extraterrestrials.

5:00 Speaker 2: Not only am I a experience or contact tea, but

5:05 Speaker 2: I'm also in the extraterrestrial realm. I am a representative

5:10 Speaker 2: of Earth. I am a person that they have been

5:14 Speaker 2: with all my life. I'm sixty four years old now

5:17 Speaker 2: and this has been going on. My first conscious memories

5:19 Speaker 2: are at two or three, and they have been with

5:22 Speaker 2: me and followed me throughout my life with physical contact.

5:28 Speaker 2: And when I say that, I mean like holding hands,

5:31 Speaker 2: touching skin, embracing each other, face to face conversations. So

5:40 Speaker 2: not only do they have they watched me and prepared

5:44 Speaker 2: me for this day to get me to be to

5:47 Speaker 2: where I am today, to be able to speak to people,

5:50 Speaker 2: but they also have a pretty good idea of what

5:53 Speaker 2: it's like to be a human being through my eyes

5:56 Speaker 2: and through other people's eyes like me that have done

5:59 Speaker 2: the same thing. So what I have found out through

6:03 Speaker 2: the process of just having my visitations, and I learned

6:07 Speaker 2: how to have more conscious time with them because I

6:10 Speaker 2: found out very quickly throughout the years that because of

6:14 Speaker 2: them being telepathic, they whatever we feel, they feel tenfold

6:20 Speaker 2: the amount and feelings of anxiety and fear, sadness, any

6:26 Speaker 2: of these type feelings. In their reality, they do not

6:29 Speaker 2: experience this. So when they sense this and feel this

6:34 Speaker 2: from us, this is not something they enjoy. They don't

6:37 Speaker 2: know what to do with it. They don't like it,

6:39 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, they just don't like it.

6:41 Speaker 2: So they will either consciously tap you out or do

6:45 Speaker 2: it or touch your head and put you in a

6:50 Speaker 2: non emotional state, and that way you can fully go

6:55 Speaker 2: through the experience. But the only problem with that is

6:59 Speaker 2: you lose all the motions, but you can still function

7:01 Speaker 2: and go through it. But when you come back, this

7:04 Speaker 2: is where people talk about having missing time or fragmented

7:09 Speaker 2: memories because they really just don't like being around all

7:13 Speaker 2: this fear and all this stuff, so they just tap

7:17 Speaker 2: you right out. And so a lot of times, even

7:20 Speaker 2: with me, I can remember after the experience coming back

7:23 Speaker 2: conscious while walking to the bed and them holding me

7:27 Speaker 2: getting me put in the bed, and it's like, wow,

7:30 Speaker 2: what did I miss? And that's what I missed was

7:33 Speaker 2: the part where I was so afraid and because of

7:37 Speaker 2: me being so afraid, they blacked me out.

7:40 Speaker 1: So do you think that so you think that that

7:50 Speaker 1: is what is the problem. They're experiencing our anxieties on

7:56 Speaker 1: a personal level, and they've evolved past that kind of

8:01 Speaker 1: that kind.

8:02 Speaker 2: Of in their reality. There is no wars, there is

8:06 Speaker 2: no negativity. They've showed me what we're doing. We're going

8:11 Speaker 2: up a DNA ladder. They are a billion years ahead

8:14 Speaker 2: of us in evolution. They've been through the ladder and

8:17 Speaker 2: they've seen other species beings go through this same process.

8:21 Speaker 2: This is not their first rodeo.

8:23 Speaker 1: When it comes to an ascension.

8:26 Speaker 2: Ascension and evolution and all this kind of stuff, And

8:29 Speaker 2: they basically have been waiting for us to reach this point.

8:32 Speaker 2: And we're at the peak point right now. We're at

8:35 Speaker 2: the peak point. Not only are we ascending and leaving

8:39 Speaker 2: kind of the three drim, we're accelerating and move it

8:42 Speaker 2: up into the fourth or fifth. So and as that happens,

8:47 Speaker 2: these are not physical places that were going they are

8:50 Speaker 2: higher levels of consciousness. So that's yes, so our wearness,

8:55 Speaker 2: our standing will be better.

9:00 Speaker 1: The internet kind of. That's what people don't understand sometimes

9:03 Speaker 1: about doing virtual interviews is sometimes the Internet will affect

9:10 Speaker 1: uh and and it'll make you overlap each other. But

9:13 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say is I've had this theory

9:16 Speaker 1: and you kind of said it without saying it, is

9:20 Speaker 1: that they've it's they've almost evolved past and in order

9:26 Speaker 1: to get to this place of of evolution or or ascension,

9:32 Speaker 1: that that is required you need to leave behind things

9:38 Speaker 1: like war conflict, because those things, I mean, they're just

9:43 Speaker 1: so destructive in their nature. I mean, look at we

9:47 Speaker 1: literally our look at our technology. Our technology is almost

9:51 Speaker 1: a representation of humanity. It's combustible engines, it's it's it's

9:58 Speaker 1: explosion control, the explosions and fire, and it's just very

10:04 Speaker 1: primitive and chaotic. But when we think of these higher

10:09 Speaker 1: beings or these UFOs or whatever, we think of just

10:16 Speaker 1: blissful peace. And that's a common theme among experiencers is

10:22 Speaker 1: when they're with them, is this common this very peaceful environment.

10:28 Speaker 2: Exactly that they the way that they see us, we

10:32 Speaker 2: are one and we are all connected, and that includes

10:37 Speaker 2: not only us with our planet Earth, and we need

10:41 Speaker 2: to recognize the fact that our planet is a living

10:44 Speaker 2: conscious being. All of the creatures on our planet are

10:47 Speaker 2: living conscious beings. So our planet and all living conscious

10:52 Speaker 2: beings plants, trees, water, air, et cetera. They have all

10:56 Speaker 2: been sitting around waiting for human beings to catch up,

11:00 Speaker 2: understand our connections, recognize our appreciation for them and our

11:06 Speaker 2: existence because we were all put here to support each other.

11:09 Speaker 2: And not only that, but that extends out into the

11:12 Speaker 2: cosmic realm, our connection with the universe and with extra

11:17 Speaker 2: threastals and interdimensionals, because we are all one and we

11:20 Speaker 2: are all connected. And whatever we do on this planet,

11:25 Speaker 2: especially misused in our environment, you know, plan with nuclear

11:29 Speaker 2: technology and stuff, whatever we do, it not only could

11:34 Speaker 2: wipe us out in our planet Earth that's beautiful and

11:38 Speaker 2: all living things on it, including innocent bystanders, indigenous people, wells, griefs,

11:45 Speaker 2: et cetera, but it also would ripple into the universe

11:48 Speaker 2: and affect them. And they're not going to let us

11:51 Speaker 2: do that because we think we're the top dogs and

11:55 Speaker 2: we're all that Earth is all about us. But there's

11:58 Speaker 2: a lot of things that are alive conscious beings on

12:01 Speaker 2: this planet that are just as.

12:02 Speaker 1: Important as we are, if not more.

12:06 Speaker 2: Exactly, so we're going through we have to go through

12:10 Speaker 2: this process of evolution in order to maintain our species.

12:15 Speaker 2: It's almost, yes, it's inevitable. It's almost happening.

12:20 Speaker 1: It's almost like we're we're we're a we're a teenage

12:26 Speaker 1: boy and we think we're a man, right, And it's

12:31 Speaker 1: not till you get smacked around by someone a little

12:33 Speaker 1: stronger that you realize your that's not okay, that's not

12:40 Speaker 1: how the world works, right, and.

12:44 Speaker 2: The universe, you know, we've got to cooperate with the universe.

12:48 Speaker 2: You know, it's not just our little planet, because our

12:50 Speaker 2: planet is not very happy with us.

12:53 Speaker 1: No, so you know, And isn't it funny that because

12:58 Speaker 1: we talk about the Earth like as as as a

13:01 Speaker 1: as a a place, but no, it's a it's a

13:04 Speaker 1: thing in itself. It's a it's a it's it's a

13:07 Speaker 1: reason that our ancestors, you know, have names for it

13:12 Speaker 1: like you know Gaya and and because it is, it's

13:16 Speaker 1: the life giver. It is, it gave us the place.

13:20 Speaker 1: And you know, people religious, you know, I I don't

13:24 Speaker 1: know about where your religious right but I think we

13:30 Speaker 1: are we are very blind when we are overly religious

13:34 Speaker 1: because we it's it's ingrained into us into these religious

13:39 Speaker 1: view views that we are the top, that we are

13:44 Speaker 1: to be held in this regard, and that we we

13:49 Speaker 1: that we are it and that's not the case. And

13:53 Speaker 1: can you can you bring me back to at least

13:57 Speaker 1: your first conscious experience with these beings? And why why

14:05 Speaker 1: did they lead you on the path because you ended

14:07 Speaker 1: up in the department of defense. That's a that's a

14:11 Speaker 1: that's a that's a that seems like a deliberate thing.

14:14 Speaker 2: So was everything in my life they have instigated and

14:20 Speaker 2: open doors and avenues. It's just like me sitting here

14:23 Speaker 2: right here with you. These things are They knew long

14:28 Speaker 2: before I was ever born that all this was going

14:32 Speaker 2: to happen here on earth. So what happened was when

14:37 Speaker 2: I was thirty years old, I witnessed my two sons

14:41 Speaker 2: being taken for their first time. And these were different

14:45 Speaker 2: beings that came for them that that normally come for me.

14:50 Speaker 2: So when they did, they I have the ability I

14:56 Speaker 2: know when they're going to manifest in the room with me.

14:59 Speaker 2: My freak see changes and for me, it's not what

15:03 Speaker 2: they look like. It is the frequency exchange between a

15:07 Speaker 2: human being and an extraterrestrial or inter dimensional We are

15:10 Speaker 2: at a very low frequency and they are at a

15:12 Speaker 2: much higher frequency. And what you feel when you're face

15:17 Speaker 2: to face with them is incredible. It's between a before

15:22 Speaker 2: it high, an extreme fear, all bought up in one

15:26 Speaker 2: and your brain does not know what to do with this,

15:30 Speaker 2: you know, It's like whoa, because there's nothing like that

15:35 Speaker 2: else in the world. So that's why most people just

15:39 Speaker 2: bam fear, and once fear sets in, they don't remember

15:44 Speaker 2: really anything else other than that. But the brain will

15:48 Speaker 2: try to fill in those missing gaps and pieces, and

15:51 Speaker 2: it's with the programming that they've received in their life,

15:55 Speaker 2: you know. And it's like you said, from the minute

15:57 Speaker 2: we are born, we are programmed to think, to live

16:02 Speaker 2: and think a certain way. And so now we're at

16:07 Speaker 2: this point in time where we have to realize that

16:13 Speaker 2: we need new ways of thinking, new ways of living.

16:16 Speaker 2: Our world is changing. Earth is going through an extension herself.

16:22 Speaker 2: Our world is changing. We are changing and are old ways,

16:26 Speaker 2: these old programming ways no longer serve humanity. Wars are

16:32 Speaker 2: of no service to humanity. Negativity is of no service

16:37 Speaker 2: to humanity. So as we go up our DNA letter,

16:42 Speaker 2: just like the extraterrestrials and other races and beings have

16:45 Speaker 2: done throughout universes different universes, these negative aspects of their

16:53 Speaker 2: of their species falls off because it just simply doesn't

16:57 Speaker 2: serve and they learn to come together as one in

17:01 Speaker 2: unity and work together. And that's what they're looking for

17:06 Speaker 2: us to do, is finally come together as one. And

17:11 Speaker 2: the problem has always been that dark forces have kept

17:14 Speaker 2: humanity separated for eons. And this goes way way back

17:19 Speaker 2: in history. You know, separation of languages, separation of religions,

17:26 Speaker 2: you know, separation. Yes, everything was done to keep humanity apart.

17:34 Speaker 2: These elites and people always knew that when we reach

17:39 Speaker 2: this point and if we ever all come together as one,

17:42 Speaker 2: we're unstoppable.

17:44 Speaker 1: There's no there's no going.

17:46 Speaker 2: Backwards, you know, once you start getting into the reach

17:50 Speaker 2: and higher frequencies and.

17:52 Speaker 1: What's going to happen? Yeah, and it really does.

17:59 Speaker 2: When you start raising your frequency. You can feel it

18:02 Speaker 2: to me. You know how people that run great distance

18:05 Speaker 2: and they say they get that a drilling rust. This

18:08 Speaker 2: is kind of like that, that unbelievable thing. It's like

18:12 Speaker 2: your body reward you for good behavior. So you continue

18:17 Speaker 2: on that cycle and you eventually train yourself into seeing

18:22 Speaker 2: beautiful positive thoughts rather than having the program negative thoughts.

18:26 Speaker 2: And what I would do is when I first would

18:28 Speaker 2: you know, naturally get these negative thoughts, I'd replace it

18:31 Speaker 2: with too positive. And so you basically we have to

18:35 Speaker 2: work within We individually have to work on ourselves figure

18:39 Speaker 2: out who we are. For me, I am not the

18:43 Speaker 2: Nacy Tams that the world around me created. I am

18:46 Speaker 2: the Nancy Tams that came here. I found my soul self,

18:51 Speaker 2: my inner self, the one that came here with a purpose.

18:55 Speaker 2: I didn't come here to play the programmed game. I

18:59 Speaker 2: came here. I came here to educate people and end

19:02 Speaker 2: the game. It is time for humanity to start enjoin

19:07 Speaker 2: the human experience. Whether we remember it or not, we

19:10 Speaker 2: all made a choice to come to Earth and be

19:13 Speaker 2: a part of this, and we all chose to be

19:15 Speaker 2: here now, and we're all a part of this evolutionary

19:19 Speaker 2: phase that we're going through. And that's why I like

19:22 Speaker 2: to say we are the disclosure. Human beings are the disclosure.

19:26 Speaker 2: We are waking up, reaching higher levels of consciousness and

19:30 Speaker 2: we're going to use our intelligence in different ways. We're

19:33 Speaker 2: going to learn to do things that help all of humanity,

19:37 Speaker 2: not just let these elites be in control and manipulate us.

19:41 Speaker 2: And they've showed me how we can use AI because

19:44 Speaker 2: they just look at it. They told me AI is

19:47 Speaker 2: a man made tool. We keep it as a man

19:49 Speaker 2: made tool. We do not let certain fractions of government

19:53 Speaker 2: or elites only control that it was made and intended

19:58 Speaker 2: for humanity. There's ways that we can use it to

20:02 Speaker 2: better our lives. And it will not take away jobs.

20:05 Speaker 2: It will create new jobs. And it will also show

20:09 Speaker 2: us how we can work less hours and not focus

20:13 Speaker 2: so much on all of the material things, but learn

20:18 Speaker 2: to have more time with family.

20:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it'll it'll take away it'll as I see it,

20:27 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, I don't see as a bad thing even use. Right,

20:35 Speaker 1: it does depend on it is depending on how it's

20:38 Speaker 1: used and how it's developed. Right, You're you're absolutely right.

20:43 Speaker 1: It needs to be something that's open sourced. But you

20:46 Speaker 1: could say that about everything you know, Uh, open source

20:52 Speaker 1: alternative energy. Uh that that that that will be the

20:56 Speaker 1: key to unlocking the end of war in the end.

21:02 Speaker 1: So do you think I mean do you do you

21:04 Speaker 1: David Gush talks about how we're we're we've already solved

21:08 Speaker 1: that problem. Basically, if we're reverse engineering UFOs and we're

21:12 Speaker 1: we have that technology hidden in the military industrial complex,

21:18 Speaker 1: you know what, why what what's stopping it from from

21:22 Speaker 1: from coming out on the battle or I.

21:26 Speaker 2: Don't think we can't. I don't think we can reverse

21:29 Speaker 2: their technology. And I'll tell you why. Their craft are

21:33 Speaker 2: living conscious beings. They have a consciousness, and so their

21:38 Speaker 2: pilots are designed their DNA. They are created to be

21:43 Speaker 2: the pilot. They are bonded with that craft. Nobody else

21:46 Speaker 2: can fly it because they are bonded. So the pilot

21:51 Speaker 2: gets in he or she and thinks destination where they

21:55 Speaker 2: want to go, and their consciousness link up and bam

21:59 Speaker 2: they go. They don't use fuels and propulsion and things

22:04 Speaker 2: like that, and and their technology like for example, I'll

22:08 Speaker 2: give you example. You and I are talking on technology.

22:12 Speaker 2: I'm on the laptop of your own your computer or whatever.

22:16 Speaker 2: But our technology is a separate entity that we carry

22:21 Speaker 2: around with us. Okay, your their reality and their reality.

22:26 Speaker 2: Their consciousness is their technology, and they can manifest whatever

22:31 Speaker 2: they want with their higher consciousness. And they travel that

22:35 Speaker 2: way too.

22:37 Speaker 1: So what are these? I had Danny Shean on the podcast,

22:41 Speaker 1: and obviously you know who he is. He's a renowned,

22:44 Speaker 1: renowned Harvard attorney. He had mentioned that he knows of

22:50 Speaker 1: five different alien civilizations visiting Earth. Do you agree with

22:57 Speaker 1: that number?

22:59 Speaker 2: Well, I'd say there's more than that. Where I go

23:02 Speaker 2: is to a mothership, and there's the inner dimensional.

23:06 Speaker 1: Where you go, yesifically, yes.

23:09 Speaker 2: I go to a mothership. I'm on a mothership, and

23:12 Speaker 2: there are many different races and they're all working towards

23:16 Speaker 2: assisting and helping humanity. Okay, so the inner dimensionals are

23:21 Speaker 2: seven to eight foot tall, they're luminescent, they have a

23:25 Speaker 2: few humanistic look but they are not human. They are

23:30 Speaker 2: more like what people in the Bible days would call

23:32 Speaker 2: the shiny ones. Okay, the kind of like that, kind

23:36 Speaker 2: of like that. Okay, Yeah, and so then there's the

23:41 Speaker 2: tall grays. There's different grays. I've met reptilians, I've met

23:46 Speaker 2: aquatic beings. I've met I call them humanoid looking beings.

23:50 Speaker 2: I don't ask them what are you? Because in that reality,

23:55 Speaker 2: they do not use names or labels. Everyone's frequency is

24:00 Speaker 2: their signature and That's how they find me wherever I

24:03 Speaker 2: am is through my frequency. I've lived in Australia, I've

24:07 Speaker 2: lived in Hawaii, i live in Mississippi. Now wherever I go,

24:10 Speaker 2: wherever I live, they find me through my frequency. And

24:14 Speaker 2: that's how I communicate with them, is through my consciousness

24:18 Speaker 2: and my frequency.

24:19 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is we all have a what

24:24 Speaker 1: you would say is a cosmic signature. Yes, whatever is

24:29 Speaker 1: our resident frequency, it.

24:32 Speaker 2: Has the signature to it. But we can raise that frequency.

24:36 Speaker 2: We can raise it to a higher vibrational state, which

24:39 Speaker 2: gets us up closer to where they are. And that's

24:42 Speaker 2: what's happening. This is part of our evolution. We are

24:47 Speaker 2: the human species is escalating up into higher frequency and

24:52 Speaker 2: that is going to make us not only more aware

24:56 Speaker 2: and see more, but it makes us a little more

24:58 Speaker 2: compatible with them to.

25:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what is just why? Okay, we all say,

25:06 Speaker 1: you know, or we're all waiting for the day that

25:11 Speaker 1: the phoenix lights happens. But it's in broad daylight, it's

25:14 Speaker 1: over Washington, d C. And aliens come down and you know,

25:21 Speaker 1: and introduce themselves with the handshake. Why are why is

25:27 Speaker 1: why isn't that happening? Because is abduction happening.

25:32 Speaker 2: The first question because humans try to humanize everything. They

25:38 Speaker 2: are not human. Just because we do things certain way

25:42 Speaker 2: and we have our precition, uh, our mannerism or whatever,

25:46 Speaker 2: that does not apply to them. They are who they are.

25:50 Speaker 2: We are who we are, and we have got to

25:53 Speaker 2: stop trying to humanize everything, trying to name and label

25:58 Speaker 2: and all these things, because in their reality, they do

26:02 Speaker 2: not individualize, you know. They are all one. They are

26:05 Speaker 2: all connected, so and that's the way they see us.

26:09 Speaker 2: And they are not here to put on a performance.

26:12 Speaker 2: They are not here to show off. So that's another

26:16 Speaker 2: reason too, because they've manifested themselves in the craft to me,

26:22 Speaker 2: and I would never just stop the car and go

26:24 Speaker 2: take pictures or anything because I know through my connections

26:28 Speaker 2: with them that was for me, that was not for

26:31 Speaker 2: the rest of the world. Because the world needs to

26:35 Speaker 2: do their part on their own work on themselves, and

26:40 Speaker 2: when we all start doing this, then they will open

26:43 Speaker 2: up more to this individually. So they're not going to

26:48 Speaker 2: do a performance, you know. So we have to understand

26:53 Speaker 2: they are a billion years ahead of us in evolution.

26:56 Speaker 2: Our physics does not apply our means of travel, portion

27:00 Speaker 2: fuels et cetera. Our technology, which there is no separate

27:07 Speaker 2: entity for their technology. Their consciousness isn't there. It's all

27:12 Speaker 2: in one, you know, So there is no humanizing anything

27:17 Speaker 2: about them. And I think that's the government knows this,

27:20 Speaker 2: and that's why the secrecy. Yes, it has to be

27:24 Speaker 2: because it would be in their best interest not to

27:28 Speaker 2: expose their bondabilities because they have no control over it

27:31 Speaker 2: and there's nothing they can do about it. So why

27:35 Speaker 2: would the United States let other foreign countries know what

27:42 Speaker 2: we know? Why show our vunderabilities when really it's not

27:46 Speaker 2: a threat to us, but the fact that one country

27:51 Speaker 2: much in other words, one country doesn't want to show

27:55 Speaker 2: its vulnderabilities to other countries and also to people, because

28:01 Speaker 2: who do we look to to protect us and save

28:04 Speaker 2: us from everything? Our government?

28:05 Speaker 1: Right, it's a quick pro quo between the civilians and

28:09 Speaker 1: the government is I'll pay taxes, you protect us exactly.

28:14 Speaker 1: That is it if you can't protect us, if that's

28:18 Speaker 1: what I mean. And I was hoping you get you'd say.

28:21 Speaker 2: But like, think about this too, think about this, okay,

28:25 Speaker 2: So if they know what I know that we're going

28:29 Speaker 2: through an evolution okay. And people's awareness, which means we

28:34 Speaker 2: will have more than just the five sentence to understand

28:37 Speaker 2: the world around us. And I'm not saying this is

28:39 Speaker 2: going to happen overnight. It has to happen in a slow, beautiful,

28:43 Speaker 2: divine way, just like in our creation. Otherwise it would

28:47 Speaker 2: overload our brains. We wouldn't be able to handle it.

28:50 Speaker 1: But so almost almost like a butterfly, yes, I mean

28:53 Speaker 1: a caterpillar needing to struggle in the concuons.

28:57 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly, they can't.

28:58 Speaker 1: Just if you rip up the cocoon early, you'll actually

29:02 Speaker 1: kill a butterfly.

29:04 Speaker 2: Exactly. It's exactly like that. So they're sitting back letting.

29:10 Speaker 2: And this is what the extra tresholds are. Iner benchannels

29:13 Speaker 2: say to me as I go out and speak, and

29:15 Speaker 2: you know, there's lots of times people it just seems

29:18 Speaker 2: impossible to get through them, get through to them. But

29:22 Speaker 2: they always encourage me and say, let evolution do its job.

29:27 Speaker 2: Let it do its job. Continue on your path, stay strong,

29:33 Speaker 2: stick to you know, stick to what you're doing. But

29:37 Speaker 2: the world will start waking up because it's part of

29:41 Speaker 2: our evolution. And I'm sure that's what the government is

29:45 Speaker 2: doing too. If I know this, surely they know this.

29:48 Speaker 2: So they're like, why go out here and say all

29:50 Speaker 2: this stuff and people run around acted retarded and crazy

29:54 Speaker 2: when evolution perhaps is going to help us with this

29:59 Speaker 2: and our intelligence will help us to act more like

30:03 Speaker 2: human beings. Because that's the whole thing, that's the whole key,

30:07 Speaker 2: is for us becoming the human beings we were created

30:11 Speaker 2: to be and getting out of this three D whealm

30:14 Speaker 2: of negative ways in wars, blooming us up into like

30:18 Speaker 2: the caterpillar, blooming us up into our new selves, our

30:23 Speaker 2: new world, our new planet, and our new new human

30:26 Speaker 2: beings with new ways of thinking and living.

30:30 Speaker 1: In your in your time with the government, were you

30:37 Speaker 1: did you have I mean, did you tell anybody?

30:39 Speaker 2: No?

30:40 Speaker 1: Did you get your shut Yes?

30:43 Speaker 2: I did so so basically the way I see that

30:48 Speaker 2: I was the eyes looking at them.

30:53 Speaker 1: So you were like a you were like an alien agent.

30:56 Speaker 1: I believe I know.

30:58 Speaker 2: From well, I don't think I got to it. But

31:00 Speaker 2: when I saw my two children, did I.

31:02 Speaker 1: Tell you, well, you were telling me the story?

31:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well I witnessed my two sons being taken. Okay,

31:11 Speaker 2: so and they were perfectly fine when we all woke

31:14 Speaker 2: up nothing. You know, they didn't remember any of it

31:17 Speaker 2: because they were blacked out. But so I meditated. When

31:21 Speaker 2: I got home from that trip, I meditated and asked

31:24 Speaker 2: them to please explain to me because the fact that

31:27 Speaker 2: this wasn't just about me anymore, you know, this involves

31:30 Speaker 2: my children. I wanted explanations. I was angry, mad, upset,

31:36 Speaker 2: the whole nine yards. And I don't pretend and say

31:39 Speaker 2: that I can call and conjure them. Plus, I would

31:42 Speaker 2: never do that. I have. I considered them family, and

31:45 Speaker 2: I know they're not here to impress, and I'm not

31:48 Speaker 2: here to impress anyone. I don't care what people think,

31:51 Speaker 2: you know. So, but they did come on their time.

31:56 Speaker 2: They came, and the female grade that I'm bonded with,

32:01 Speaker 2: by the way, took me before a group of beings

32:08 Speaker 2: and they presented. They presented me, and they were a

32:12 Speaker 2: group of elders, and these were interdimensionals from different races, representatives.

32:18 Speaker 2: And I asked them why this was happening to me

32:20 Speaker 2: and to my children, What was the purpose? What does

32:23 Speaker 2: it mean? You know? I needed explanations. And they explained

32:27 Speaker 2: to me that before I was born, that I had

32:32 Speaker 2: made an agreement to come to Earth and be part

32:35 Speaker 2: of the evolutionary process and that when I get God

32:40 Speaker 2: get here, I wouldn't remember it, but they would be

32:42 Speaker 2: visiting me throughout my life, preparing me for what we're

32:46 Speaker 2: doing here today. And that's exactly what has happened. And

32:50 Speaker 2: even though at the time, I was shaking my head,

32:54 Speaker 2: you know, because I was Nancy Tims, I was a mother,

32:58 Speaker 2: I was a wife. You know, you didn't I grew

33:02 Speaker 2: up in Tennessee, you know, I live in Mississippi. My goodness,

33:05 Speaker 2: this doesn't make some sense. So I heard what they said,

33:08 Speaker 2: but it didn't connect with me at the time. And

33:11 Speaker 2: they did open up like a blue orb a vision,

33:14 Speaker 2: and I saw myself as an as a interdimensional etheric

33:20 Speaker 2: looking being and walking me through the process of going

33:25 Speaker 2: through and my I actually witnessed myself being born and

33:28 Speaker 2: coming into the earth. And I also, you know, so

33:33 Speaker 2: throughout my life, they would come to me and say

33:36 Speaker 2: things like because it ended up I ended up getting

33:39 Speaker 2: two divorces, fighting over kids, drama, drama, drama, And I

33:43 Speaker 2: would think, this is ridiculous, this, you know, surely this

33:47 Speaker 2: is not what I signed up for.

33:48 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, yeah, you told me I picked this life,

33:54 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I'm like, this is it?

33:57 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, and so but then they would come

33:59 Speaker 2: to me and they would tell me, if it ever

34:03 Speaker 2: gets to be too much, you can always come home.

34:06 Speaker 2: And I'm like, what you know? So, yes, I heard it,

34:10 Speaker 2: I listened. Did it click and connect? No it does not,

34:15 Speaker 2: you know. So long story short. So finally, throughout my

34:19 Speaker 2: life it helped things kept continuing and kept happening. And

34:23 Speaker 2: then finally a little over two years ago, they finally

34:29 Speaker 2: gifted me a condolini awakening because I was getting downloads

34:34 Speaker 2: for them, but I was questioning, questioning, questioning. I can't

34:37 Speaker 2: talk all of a sudden where this information was coming from.

34:41 Speaker 2: So they opened my subconscious up into my human conscious

34:45 Speaker 2: to help me remember, because I was an interdimensional before

34:49 Speaker 2: I came to Earth, and I have made a choice

34:51 Speaker 2: to come here and be a part of this evolutionary

34:54 Speaker 2: process to help humanity understand we are not alone in

34:59 Speaker 2: the universe, and we are beautiful beings and we are

35:05 Speaker 2: here at a very exciting time. We all made this

35:09 Speaker 2: choice and we're here for a reason, and it's because

35:12 Speaker 2: we're in an evolutionary process of becoming the human beings

35:16 Speaker 2: we are created to be. So through that condolining awakening,

35:20 Speaker 2: I was able to piece every single thing in my life,

35:24 Speaker 2: even working for the military. All this was. They pretty

35:27 Speaker 2: much instrumented all these things because I needed to experience

35:32 Speaker 2: these things. This is part of my evolution of being

35:35 Speaker 2: here on this planet. This is part of my experience.

35:37 Speaker 2: This is why I came here. And also my son's

35:42 Speaker 2: as well, especially my oldest son. They gave him a

35:45 Speaker 2: condoline awakening. He has all the same kind of experiences

35:48 Speaker 2: and things that I do and gets the downloads. But

35:51 Speaker 2: now since that, I don't question what the information that

35:54 Speaker 2: they give me. Before I did, and I guess you

35:57 Speaker 2: know they did. I needed up a boost or a

36:01 Speaker 2: bump of the butt, so to speak. So they did that,

36:05 Speaker 2: and it scared me to death. And I think more

36:07 Speaker 2: people will probably experience something like that, and I hope

36:12 Speaker 2: they know him more about it than than I did

36:14 Speaker 2: at the time, because it literally scared me to death.

36:17 Speaker 1: I I was going to ask, you know, as a mother,

36:23 Speaker 1: to know that there's children are a part of this,

36:28 Speaker 1: you know, because you yourself is one thing. Yeah, but

36:32 Speaker 1: thinking about your kids being taken, yeah, you know that

36:36 Speaker 1: could that could be something that's that makes you think

36:39 Speaker 1: you're crazy exactly. But here's where are they about these things?

36:44 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my son was at the symposium with Yeah,

36:47 Speaker 2: you were telling me. Yeah, he's big into all this stuff.

36:50 Speaker 2: And he's the one that sets up the webcam, makes

36:53 Speaker 2: the designs and all this stuff. They are this is

36:56 Speaker 2: our fa this is a life family mission. This is

36:59 Speaker 2: our mission.

37:00 Speaker 1: Do you be willing to talk to me one day? Oh?

37:02 Speaker 2: Absolutely?

37:03 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah.

37:06 Speaker 2: We can do that today if you want. Yeah. But anyway,

37:10 Speaker 2: what I'm saying is that now I've gotten off the track.

37:15 Speaker 1: I got you off, I got I got you off track.

37:17 Speaker 1: But so so it was all really guided for you, right, Oh.

37:24 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah. They instigated everything and put me in the

37:28 Speaker 2: right places, because what is the best way for them

37:32 Speaker 2: to understand what it's like to be a human being?

37:36 Speaker 2: Through my eyes, through my children's eyes. We are the eyes.

37:39 Speaker 2: So not only do we come to you and talk

37:43 Speaker 2: about them, talk about them to humanity, but also we

37:50 Speaker 2: talk to them about humanity. And I have they have

37:56 Speaker 2: given me like blue orbs to take, and I would

38:00 Speaker 2: take and represent and give to the Reptilian race or

38:04 Speaker 2: to different races. And this was earth essence. And what

38:08 Speaker 2: I'm saying is we are valuable We are worth your efforts.

38:13 Speaker 2: We are doing our part. So this is a big deal.

38:19 Speaker 2: It is a big deal, And every day I learn

38:23 Speaker 2: more and more about this and the importance of it

38:26 Speaker 2: and what it all means. But I can tell you this,

38:29 Speaker 2: every single human being on this planet is a part

38:33 Speaker 2: of this. We all chose to be here. We are

38:36 Speaker 2: all part of this. This is not about me. This

38:40 Speaker 2: is not about the United States or any country or

38:43 Speaker 2: anybody in euthology. This is a worldwide phenomena, and this

38:48 Speaker 2: is a worldwide deal. This is all of humanity waking up,

38:54 Speaker 2: figuring out who we truly are, our true origins, our purpose,

39:00 Speaker 2: your own life. We are the generation the world in

39:03 Speaker 2: the universe has been waiting on to make the changes

39:07 Speaker 2: that we need so that we can continue on the

39:10 Speaker 2: human species for decades. Otherwise, if we stay in this

39:16 Speaker 2: rem that we're in and continue with our materialistic, warlike ways,

39:21 Speaker 2: we are going to destroy ourselves or put ourselves in

39:25 Speaker 2: a very detrimental life ahead of us. But we can

39:30 Speaker 2: make these changes. We have the opportunity now, and we

39:33 Speaker 2: can have them to help us, assist us. They're not

39:37 Speaker 2: going to come down here and fix everything. We make,

39:40 Speaker 2: our mistakes we have to fix them. But as we

39:43 Speaker 2: ascend and get ourselves out of this three D rim,

39:48 Speaker 2: I know now, remember what I was going to say

39:50 Speaker 2: to you, But they can help us. The more that

39:53 Speaker 2: we get out of this negative rim, the more that

39:56 Speaker 2: they will be able to help us. And what I

39:58 Speaker 2: was going to finish saying about how I felt about

40:01 Speaker 2: my son's being taken. Sure, the human response is horrible, terrible, abduction, negative, negative,

40:10 Speaker 2: But here's the extraterrestrial perspective coming out of me. Okay,

40:16 Speaker 2: just like I made choices to come here and be

40:18 Speaker 2: on earth, my sons made choices to come here and

40:22 Speaker 2: be on earth. We don't just because there are children.

40:27 Speaker 2: They have soul contracts and make decisions too before they

40:31 Speaker 2: get here. So we have to look, that's the problem

40:34 Speaker 2: with human beings. We think about what's happening right here,

40:38 Speaker 2: right now, and what pleases us up here. They see

40:42 Speaker 2: the big picture. We have to learn to start seeing

40:46 Speaker 2: the big picture and see things from a different perspective.

40:50 Speaker 2: And it's just like they could have come and got

40:53 Speaker 2: my two sons and I would have never known they

40:55 Speaker 2: could have done that, but they wanted me to see it.

40:59 Speaker 2: It served a high purpose. I didn't understand it for say,

41:02 Speaker 2: twenty years, but now I do, and now I understand completely.

41:07 Speaker 2: It all makes sense and it was done for a reason.

41:10 Speaker 2: But at the time twenty years ago or whatever, I

41:14 Speaker 2: didn't understand it, and I thought it was horrible, and

41:17 Speaker 2: I would have said, oh, abduction, blah blah blah, demonic

41:20 Speaker 2: da da da. So that's that's what I'm trying to

41:23 Speaker 2: let the world know. Well, our perceptions has a lot

41:28 Speaker 2: to do with our programming and our level of spiritual

41:32 Speaker 2: growth and understanding of the world around us. But we

41:35 Speaker 2: are now coming to a point to where all of

41:38 Speaker 2: these things are opening up in our levels of intelligence

41:43 Speaker 2: and awareness is changing, and we're going to finally get

41:48 Speaker 2: the answers we want and we won't have to get

41:50 Speaker 2: it from the government. We won't have to get it

41:52 Speaker 2: from anybody. We're going to know within. We're going to

41:55 Speaker 2: learn to look within, remember who our soul selves are.

42:00 Speaker 2: Think about how you know, why did I come here?

42:04 Speaker 2: What is my purpose here? Am I here just to

42:07 Speaker 2: be a game piece? Or am I here to make

42:09 Speaker 2: the world a different place? And that's for humanity to

42:12 Speaker 2: decide individually.

42:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to tell you a story, Okay, now.

42:20 Speaker 1: When I was younger, I had a UFO and experience.

42:26 Speaker 1: But and then that's kind of what led me down

42:30 Speaker 1: this path of intrigue. I've always been the person who

42:34 Speaker 1: asked the existential questions and always wanted to know more

42:39 Speaker 1: about like like, you know, how are we a species

42:44 Speaker 1: that doesn't know our own origin? What happens after death?

42:47 Speaker 1: Are we alone? I've always asked these questions, and I've

42:49 Speaker 1: always you know, But in twenty twenty one, I lost

42:53 Speaker 1: my mother to breast cancer. And I was in the

42:56 Speaker 1: room when she had when she departed, and I I

43:05 Speaker 1: was looking at her. She was there, alive. I looked

43:09 Speaker 1: down at my phone. It started buzzing in my pocket.

43:12 Speaker 1: I remember making the conscious decision it's not worth even grabbing.

43:20 Speaker 1: But it was like a split second, like it was

43:22 Speaker 1: you know, you know those like quick thoughts that come

43:24 Speaker 1: into your head. So it was like that. But I

43:27 Speaker 1: looked back up and what I saw was this ball, Yes,

43:32 Speaker 1: leaving the room. Yes, went out the window. I look

43:37 Speaker 1: back and my mother was she hadn't moved on.

43:41 Speaker 2: Yeah.

43:42 Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what started this podcast. And I've always wanted

43:46 Speaker 1: to know that.

43:48 Speaker 2: Was her soul?

43:49 Speaker 1: Was that her leaving her body, Yes.

43:51 Speaker 2: It was. When wade die, are so in our consciousness,

43:55 Speaker 2: which are does not reside in an organ in our body,

43:58 Speaker 2: It resides outside. And when that happens, we go back

44:02 Speaker 2: to source, We go back to where we came from.

44:05 Speaker 2: And then when we get to their decisions are made

44:09 Speaker 2: on whatever our soul contracts were, whether we've met these

44:13 Speaker 2: contracts or if we have not, And if we have not,

44:16 Speaker 2: we can come back and try this again. If we

44:19 Speaker 2: have met these contracts, then we can make We have choices.

44:24 Speaker 2: We can we can be a dolphin, we could be

44:26 Speaker 2: an extraterrestrial, we could be a rock, you know, we

44:29 Speaker 2: could be whatever we want. And at some point, if

44:32 Speaker 2: you don't want to be in a physical form, you

44:34 Speaker 2: can stay in a non physical etheric being. And we

44:39 Speaker 2: are immortal. When we leave this body, we are not gone.

44:43 Speaker 2: We are immortal. And it goes on and on and on,

44:46 Speaker 2: it never ends. And there's more than one universe and one.

44:50 Speaker 2: There's many many out there and things of this nature.

44:53 Speaker 2: And I think I told you earlier. If I did not,

44:56 Speaker 2: I'll remind you or tell you now. They believe in

45:00 Speaker 2: a creator source, and they all have cells, so they

45:06 Speaker 2: extraterrestrials and interdimensionals.

45:08 Speaker 1: So they still they still they aren't even because I've

45:14 Speaker 1: always wondered if by solving one question, are we alone,

45:19 Speaker 1: say we meet these ethereal you know, the beings you're

45:22 Speaker 1: talking to, would we understand? Would they know who the

45:29 Speaker 1: creator is? So you're saying no, yes.

45:32 Speaker 2: They know that they creator source. They call what they

45:37 Speaker 2: call it, it is a very high consciousness. It is

45:41 Speaker 2: non visible, but it is called the creator source, the

45:46 Speaker 2: creator source.

45:47 Speaker 1: So there is something that they there is something is

45:52 Speaker 1: larger than everything.

45:54 Speaker 2: Yes, because consciousness, but it could be a collection of

45:59 Speaker 2: all of us, all of our consciousness. I don't really

46:02 Speaker 2: I don't claim to know everything, but I know that

46:04 Speaker 2: it's consciousness.

46:07 Speaker 1: So key consciousness, I think the whole key to this.

46:13 Speaker 2: Absolutely frequency consciousness. All that it's it all, it all

46:18 Speaker 2: plays together, it's you know, it's a beautiful thing and

46:22 Speaker 2: it all makes sense. It's just I don't know why

46:25 Speaker 2: it's been so hard for us to figure out.

46:27 Speaker 1: Really, well, you do. Do you like when people see

46:32 Speaker 1: these crafts in the sky?

46:34 Speaker 2: Yeah?

46:34 Speaker 1: For instance, you said something earlier that kind of like

46:38 Speaker 1: it's not depressing. I'm not I'm not going to say

46:40 Speaker 1: it's depressing, But you say said earlier that when people

46:47 Speaker 1: see these things, it's it's meant for them. So is

46:51 Speaker 1: there something special about certain people that they see things?

46:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's more in tune in. Your frequency is higher,

47:03 Speaker 2: and that makes you that's that's that's your part of

47:07 Speaker 2: your evolution. This is part of your evolution. You know,

47:11 Speaker 2: we don't all do things at the same same path.

47:14 Speaker 2: We're all here on different spiritual paths, different goals, different things.

47:19 Speaker 2: So for us, for many of us, we want to

47:24 Speaker 2: know more about probably on the soul level, we want

47:29 Speaker 2: to know, you know where, Well, for me, I've always

47:32 Speaker 2: wanted to know where my soul goes after I live here,

47:34 Speaker 2: And now I know I'm going back because in that reality,

47:39 Speaker 2: all of my family are still alive, and every time

47:41 Speaker 2: I want craft, they're standing around watching me and ev

47:46 Speaker 2: evaluating me and making decisions on how long, how much

47:50 Speaker 2: longer I'm going to be here because they didn't want

47:53 Speaker 2: me to come here to begin with for whatever reason.

47:57 Speaker 2: But I'm here and I'm doing it. But but I

48:00 Speaker 2: know that my family is there and they're waiting on me,

48:03 Speaker 2: and I know that they're missing me.

48:05 Speaker 1: Interesting.

48:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so.

48:10 Speaker 1: Is is that how the the ghat because the paranormal

48:14 Speaker 1: side is always kind of it's kind of been where

48:18 Speaker 1: I drew the line in the sand, like I can

48:21 Speaker 1: understand that we're not alone in the universe, but you know,

48:27 Speaker 1: a ghost like I have hard a very hard time

48:30 Speaker 1: with that kind of stuff. But there's been more that's

48:33 Speaker 1: convinced me as of late. What is the connection there

48:38 Speaker 1: to the extraterrestrial?

48:40 Speaker 2: I've seen it those one time, and that's when I

48:43 Speaker 2: was working at Fort Benning, Georgia, and where I was

48:46 Speaker 2: living was off post, and it was close to Confederate battlefields,

48:51 Speaker 2: and you know, there was a big battle that happen

48:54 Speaker 2: all through there. And I was sitting outside with my

48:57 Speaker 2: German shepherd dog and all of a sudden and here

49:00 Speaker 2: comes a Confederate soldier walking across my backyard and he

49:05 Speaker 2: has his gun with the bayonets slung over his shoulder,

49:08 Speaker 2: and he has like this little bucket pale things linging

49:11 Speaker 2: back and forth like a lunch pail, and he has

49:14 Speaker 2: his cap on and he's just marching along and he

49:17 Speaker 2: takes no notice of me or the dog, and the

49:20 Speaker 2: dog just sits there watching him, and I just sit

49:23 Speaker 2: there and watch I was not afraid at all, and

49:25 Speaker 2: that was my first experience seeing a ghost. It did

49:28 Speaker 2: not scare me. And we watched it go all the

49:32 Speaker 2: truck by himself, all the way across the backyard, and

49:35 Speaker 2: then when he got behind a tree, I stood up

49:38 Speaker 2: and went and walked out to look, and he just disappeared.

49:42 Speaker 1: But do you think that that could be more of

49:46 Speaker 1: like an echo, yes, because.

49:50 Speaker 2: It maybe a tear in time. And I think that

49:54 Speaker 2: perhaps say back in the old days, maybe the were

50:00 Speaker 2: seeing us. You know, it's really strange, it's bizarre. It's

50:06 Speaker 2: like the further you get into this deeper and deeper.

50:10 Speaker 1: I thought I never thought about that. Yeah, that that

50:15 Speaker 1: could be the reason that there's.

50:17 Speaker 2: Yeah time and so it's not that their ghosts and

50:23 Speaker 2: maybe they're not dead or just saying either the past

50:26 Speaker 2: or the future, you know.

50:28 Speaker 1: Right right, Oh my god, that's such a such a

50:32 Speaker 1: Next time you talk to your friends, ask them about it.

50:35 Speaker 2: So you would love talking to my son because he

50:37 Speaker 2: and I have all these deep, deep conversations.

50:40 Speaker 1: I really like it's I could just do it for hours.

50:44 Speaker 1: And so okay, so when you when you worked with

50:50 Speaker 1: the army, and and and when you had when you

50:53 Speaker 1: were in that life? Yeah, did did anything? Did you

50:57 Speaker 1: ever see anything that was now that you thought on?

51:01 Speaker 1: It might have been out a place out of character,

51:05 Speaker 1: anything suspicious? Does the DoD know more than they let on?

51:09 Speaker 1: What are you allowed to say?

51:12 Speaker 2: Well, whenever we would have pilots, I worked with officers,

51:17 Speaker 2: and so whenever we'd have a pilot, I would ask

51:20 Speaker 2: them questions like saying anything or you know, have you

51:24 Speaker 2: seen oh, you know, stuff like that, because they're laid

51:27 Speaker 2: back in the chair and or relaxed, and I was,

51:29 Speaker 2: you know, and they were just like, oh, we can't

51:32 Speaker 2: really talk about stuff like that, and so I just

51:35 Speaker 2: kind of left it alone. But I tell you what

51:37 Speaker 2: I did experience, you know, having all these two times,

51:41 Speaker 2: oh break time?

51:43 Speaker 1: No, is that story time?

51:44 Speaker 2: Oh? Story time? I would pick up on different frequencies

51:50 Speaker 2: on soldiers. Some soldiers I could tell that they were

51:54 Speaker 2: an experiencer like me. I would pick up on their frequency.

51:58 Speaker 2: And it was almost as if I could tell because

52:02 Speaker 2: they would be laid back and I'd be sitting over them,

52:05 Speaker 2: and I could sense the frequency difference, you know, from

52:09 Speaker 2: just a regular person. But they would almost like blush

52:14 Speaker 2: because it was like they knew they were exposed, you know. Yeah,

52:19 Speaker 2: and so either either they were extraterrestrial or either they

52:22 Speaker 2: were an experiencer like me.

52:26 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, you heard me right.

52:28 Speaker 2: Either they were an extraterrestrial or an experiencer like me,

52:33 Speaker 2: a contact to you like me, because their frequency was

52:37 Speaker 2: very high.

52:38 Speaker 1: Okay, So huh, I gotta okay, I gotta ask, how

52:46 Speaker 1: are you insinuating that there may be non humans a

52:54 Speaker 1: part of our government.

52:58 Speaker 2: I don't know anything for a fact, now, don't tend

53:00 Speaker 2: to know, but I do know that sitting in the chair,

53:04 Speaker 2: there was a frequency exchange. And I also have to

53:07 Speaker 2: tell you that just here in the area where I live,

53:10 Speaker 2: I've been in grocery stores and come across some extraterrestrials

53:14 Speaker 2: that were just shopping and just getting the human experience.

53:19 Speaker 2: It's not uncommon. They do that quite often. The humanoid

53:22 Speaker 2: looking ones do that because they can use it. But

53:27 Speaker 2: the thing that always throws them off For me, I

53:31 Speaker 2: can feel their frequency, but they always they never get

53:35 Speaker 2: the clothes right. They never ever get the clothes right.

53:39 Speaker 2: There's always something off, and they look unusual, and usually

53:42 Speaker 2: they're taller or thinner. There's something about their physique that's different. Yeah, yeah,

53:50 Speaker 2: but most people they don't look for things like that,

53:52 Speaker 2: so they just you know, blend in there.

53:56 Speaker 1: So it's the famous thing right, oh god, I can't remember,

54:02 Speaker 1: but like the tiger in the background, where ninety nine

54:06 Speaker 1: percent of people don't see it because they're not looking

54:09 Speaker 1: for it.

54:10 Speaker 2: Sometimes if it's right in your face, you never see it.

54:13 Speaker 1: You'll never even know.

54:14 Speaker 2: Because because it's so natural, it blends in and you

54:18 Speaker 2: just it's you know, you just assume it's like part

54:21 Speaker 2: of your every day. But I have the frequency. I

54:24 Speaker 2: can feel their frequency.

54:26 Speaker 1: That's amazing. So if you you think, do you do

54:30 Speaker 1: you think how many of you are there out there?

54:32 Speaker 1: Do you think that that are consciously aware that they

54:36 Speaker 1: are part of this program? That program, I don't know.

54:42 Speaker 2: I used to think there would be a lot, But

54:45 Speaker 2: now the more that I am around more and more,

54:48 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, they distanced this. I think that

54:51 Speaker 2: we're in distant parts to reach if we were, if

54:56 Speaker 2: they're doing what I'm doing, they have us like in

55:00 Speaker 2: regional areas most likely, and at some point I feel

55:04 Speaker 2: like it's inevitable that we all meet because it is

55:10 Speaker 2: our frequencies. If we all come together, that will help

55:14 Speaker 2: elevate the planet's frequency. And that's part of why we're here.

55:18 Speaker 2: We are elevating Earth. We are here as a representative

55:23 Speaker 2: pushing towards this, and we are helping to encourage people

55:27 Speaker 2: to raise their frequency. But also when people are around us,

55:32 Speaker 2: we can naturally raise people's frequency just from being around

55:36 Speaker 2: us and stuff. And when we get together, it's it's

55:39 Speaker 2: it's pretty powerful and right.

55:42 Speaker 1: And I think for the listener, everyone has this person

55:45 Speaker 1: that they know that when they're in the room with

55:50 Speaker 1: this person, when they're around this person, when this person

55:53 Speaker 1: walks in to any place they go, that they changed

56:00 Speaker 1: the attitude there.

56:02 Speaker 2: For goodness, whatever you want to call it.

56:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And everybody knows that person has at least

56:08 Speaker 1: one of those in their life. So everybody knows what

56:11 Speaker 1: we're talking about right now.

56:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they could be sleepers. They may not come

56:16 Speaker 2: to grips with who they are, you know what I'm saying.

56:20 Speaker 2: Everybody is at a different pace, And just because I

56:23 Speaker 2: incarnated here, somebody else may have incarnated here and they

56:28 Speaker 2: may not fully be have the full understanding of it.

56:32 Speaker 2: Even though I was told at different parts of my

56:35 Speaker 2: life to get me prepared for this, but that doesn't mean,

56:39 Speaker 2: you know, and they finally had to do a Condolini

56:41 Speaker 2: awakening on me like Bam, blonde, wake up, you know.

56:45 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying everybody's at a different level of

56:49 Speaker 2: getting this. It is not easy, and yet to understand

56:52 Speaker 2: the world around us influences us on how we accept

56:58 Speaker 2: these things too, because we are here having a human experience.

57:02 Speaker 2: We have families, a husband and wife, children, grandchildren, sisters, brothers, family,

57:09 Speaker 2: mothers and dads, and we want to be loved and

57:11 Speaker 2: respected by them. And sometimes our family is not in

57:14 Speaker 2: favor of these things, and that makes it really hard.

57:18 Speaker 2: It makes it really hard, and I've experienced that, so

57:20 Speaker 2: I understand. You know, it's not easy to put yourself

57:24 Speaker 2: out there and say, hey, this is who I am

57:27 Speaker 2: and this is what I experience, and you know it's hard.

57:31 Speaker 2: It's a yes, it's not.

57:34 Speaker 1: And it's just like your story.

57:37 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're careforl about who you say, what your

57:41 Speaker 2: story to?

57:42 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, let's just say I haven't told the

57:44 Speaker 1: whole thing, yeah to anybody, nobody. What there are aspects

57:53 Speaker 1: to it that you know, I'd love to know more about.

57:57 Speaker 1: And you know, you talk about this this uh, this

58:02 Speaker 1: negative force that's upon humanity or or that as the

58:06 Speaker 1: ability to affect humanity. Doctor Greer and people that come

58:12 Speaker 1: from that side of this topic seem to think that

58:17 Speaker 1: any extraterrestrial or or interdimensional being or anything, it's always

58:24 Speaker 1: going to be something good. What is I believe that.

58:30 Speaker 2: I believe that too. And what is about what is

58:34 Speaker 2: the bad? Our perception? Our lack of understanding what is happening?

58:41 Speaker 2: It is our perception. And that's why I truly believe

58:46 Speaker 2: evolution is inevitable, because that's what it's going to take

58:50 Speaker 2: for humanity to understand and realize there's things around us

58:56 Speaker 2: that we just never saw before, you know, and our

59:00 Speaker 2: understanding of things are based on a lot of the

59:04 Speaker 2: programming from our birth. So we have to learn to

59:09 Speaker 2: open our eyes and be more receptive to things. So

59:14 Speaker 2: the negative beings that are on our planet right now

59:17 Speaker 2: are human beings. Humans are the negative that the human

59:21 Speaker 2: there's a human dark force that that's where the negativity

59:26 Speaker 2: and they don't want us to ascend because they lose control.

59:30 Speaker 2: And this is also a way that they control our population.

59:34 Speaker 2: Our air, food, or water, everything has toxins in it

59:37 Speaker 2: to keep our panal glands thrut down and to keep

59:40 Speaker 2: us from reaching higher intelligence, which is ascension or higher consciousness. Right,

59:47 Speaker 2: were easy to control at a dumbed down rate, and

59:51 Speaker 2: so they put all these chemicals and things on all

59:54 Speaker 2: our things, all in our media. Everything is negative and

59:58 Speaker 2: owned by certain corporations and elites. And that's because they

1:00:02 Speaker 2: want to control and manipulate humanity. And they have done

1:00:05 Speaker 2: that for eons. For eons we have been manipulated. And

1:00:10 Speaker 2: this is the turning point, and this is where the

1:00:13 Speaker 2: extraterrestrials can extend a helping hand. Is but we have

1:00:18 Speaker 2: to do our part, raise our freach back.

1:00:21 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we have to reach We have to reach

1:00:25 Speaker 1: out back.

1:00:26 Speaker 2: And we have to get ourselves out of this negative

1:00:29 Speaker 2: three d ram into higher levels. How do we do that?

1:00:32 Speaker 1: When? How do you? How do you do that? When? Well,

1:00:37 Speaker 1: how much of the population is it going to take? Beeauce.

1:00:40 Speaker 1: I mean we have protests over Palestine and Israel.

1:00:43 Speaker 2: And everybody see what I believe to there. Half of

1:00:48 Speaker 2: what we see on the media is propaganda. It's not right.

1:00:51 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, yeah, So quit watching it. If that's nobody

1:00:56 Speaker 2: watching it, there's nobody. It's just like a kid. If

1:01:00 Speaker 2: you keep watching our a dog, your pet, and if

1:01:02 Speaker 2: he keeps doing something negative and you keep giving it attention,

1:01:06 Speaker 2: it keeps doing the same thing. But you turn it

1:01:09 Speaker 2: off and quit watching the media, you stop watching it

1:01:12 Speaker 2: or be selective about what you watch, then they have

1:01:15 Speaker 2: nobody to perform for well.

1:01:18 Speaker 1: I think you see that the case in I mean,

1:01:22 Speaker 1: look at look at just Tucker Carlson. The guy had

1:01:26 Speaker 1: the number one rated show on cable and they fired him,

1:01:32 Speaker 1: and he arguably has a bigger audience now on just X.

1:01:39 Speaker 1: I see it. I see it all the time when

1:01:42 Speaker 1: the podcast people are And that's the difference now is

1:01:46 Speaker 1: people are getting not the news but their news exactly.

1:01:52 Speaker 2: So be selective, selective, so we have that choice, but

1:01:57 Speaker 2: people just turn on and listen to the proper and

1:02:01 Speaker 2: that that is like brainwash in your head.

1:02:04 Speaker 1: So do you okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna hit you

1:02:07 Speaker 1: with the I'm gonna hit you with the curveball. But

1:02:10 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure h that there okay.

1:02:15 Speaker 1: There's been some stuff that's happened in the recent recent months,

1:02:20 Speaker 1: like remember that whole fiasco at the at the Mall

1:02:23 Speaker 1: in Florida, right that police presence or even the thing

1:02:30 Speaker 1: in Vegas, people are more it seems like the news

1:02:35 Speaker 1: goes in and out right with that kind of stuff,

1:02:39 Speaker 1: and people are more concerned with like what Chlory Kardashian's wearing,

1:02:45 Speaker 1: and it doesn't do you see what I'm saying, Like,

1:02:50 Speaker 1: it seems like they they fear sales. Right, they's watched

1:02:57 Speaker 1: the left hand, so you don't see what the right

1:02:59 Speaker 1: hand's doing exactly. So do you think some of these

1:03:02 Speaker 1: events were actually happening.

1:03:05 Speaker 2: I think they were intentional, and I think it was

1:03:10 Speaker 2: not extraterrestrial. If it was anything, it would be more

1:03:14 Speaker 2: of a cryptid type creature, and I would think it

1:03:17 Speaker 2: would be probably more of the bluebeing top thing because

1:03:20 Speaker 2: of the location and because of the very limited range

1:03:27 Speaker 2: that it was in. You know, it was a controllable range.

1:03:32 Speaker 2: But if it were cryptied, then basically that you know,

1:03:37 Speaker 2: I have been on spaceships where there are groups of

1:03:41 Speaker 2: extraterrestrials that are basically explorers that go around looking for cryptids,

1:03:48 Speaker 2: which in that category would be or what people call

1:03:51 Speaker 2: to copa good sasquatch, et cetera. If these things are

1:03:56 Speaker 2: not creating habit, they leave them along, you know, if

1:03:59 Speaker 2: they can blend in and balance in their environment. But

1:04:03 Speaker 2: if they start to create habit and disrupt humanity, they

1:04:08 Speaker 2: will go in craft. And that's why you will hear

1:04:11 Speaker 2: a lot about people seeing a Bigfoot or a sat

1:04:14 Speaker 2: squad and a craft being thereby. They are going to

1:04:17 Speaker 2: get it and relocate it, take it back and either

1:04:20 Speaker 2: take it to its dimension where it's going on another dimension, yes,

1:04:24 Speaker 2: or relocate it away from humanity because they're not supposed

1:04:29 Speaker 2: to cross that bridge. And if and if they're behaving

1:04:33 Speaker 2: and not, that's why Bigfoot doesn't want to have anything

1:04:35 Speaker 2: to do with us, because they're in their own little

1:04:38 Speaker 2: world and they're not supposed to interfere with us.

1:04:41 Speaker 1: And they know that or they get relocated, so they

1:04:46 Speaker 1: don't want that. No, So so we if we go

1:04:50 Speaker 1: out there and we try to find them.

1:04:51 Speaker 2: Yes, we're creating a problem for them.

1:04:55 Speaker 1: There's like exploring bigfoots that ever found them?

1:04:59 Speaker 2: The aliens, well, they can they can jump between you know,

1:05:03 Speaker 2: like a dimension. Uh. And that's why. And so what

1:05:07 Speaker 2: was happening was I was an observer. I don't claim

1:05:10 Speaker 2: to be a super soldier or anything like that. I

1:05:14 Speaker 2: was an observer, but they would and I was around

1:05:18 Speaker 2: aquatic beams for the first time, and they were there

1:05:21 Speaker 2: looking for creatures and there would be like a heat

1:05:25 Speaker 2: sensor come up them like a clear screen, and so

1:05:30 Speaker 2: they would locate it, go to it, contain it, and

1:05:33 Speaker 2: then take it to a new location, either in the

1:05:36 Speaker 2: dimension where it belongs or in a different area to

1:05:40 Speaker 2: keep it isolated from humanity.

1:05:43 Speaker 1: Interesting.

1:05:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it.

1:05:49 Speaker 1: Just opens the Pandora's barked. I've seen before too, So yeah,

1:05:55 Speaker 1: let's go over more. So, let's let's talk about some

1:05:59 Speaker 1: of this and experiences you've had personally. Bring me back

1:06:06 Speaker 1: to one of these experiences.

1:06:08 Speaker 2: Oh, this goes deep. I mean, I've done so many.

1:06:11 Speaker 2: I'm sixty four years old. I've done a lot. You know.

1:06:15 Speaker 2: I went on an excursion to the Moon and some

1:06:20 Speaker 2: Nordics were pilating the craft. The female gray that I'm

1:06:24 Speaker 2: bonded with and I love, by the way, and she

1:06:29 Speaker 2: loves me. We went up there and basically they let

1:06:33 Speaker 2: me experience going from craft walking on the moon and

1:06:38 Speaker 2: then getting into another craft. And we didn't stay there

1:06:42 Speaker 2: very long, but they wanted me to experience it, and

1:06:46 Speaker 2: so I experienced that. Other times I've experienced they were

1:06:51 Speaker 2: trying to teach me how to breathe this fluid. It

1:06:55 Speaker 2: was like it wasn't water, but it was like a fluid,

1:07:00 Speaker 2: a breathable fluid. And they would put me in tanks

1:07:03 Speaker 2: and hook me up to like some kind of I

1:07:07 Speaker 2: guess a detection for respiration or or I don't know,

1:07:12 Speaker 2: check and make sure that I'll okay that kind of thing.

1:07:15 Speaker 2: I can't get vidols, yeah, vitals whatever, and so, but

1:07:20 Speaker 2: they were teaching me to breathe under like to breathe

1:07:24 Speaker 2: this fluid and stuff. And I was like in a

1:07:27 Speaker 2: tank and stuff like that. So and I do know

1:07:31 Speaker 2: that sometimes when I am traveling at a great distance

1:07:37 Speaker 2: it's a type of teleportation or something, but they do

1:07:41 Speaker 2: black me out. And the times that I have I

1:07:46 Speaker 2: wake up, usually when I wake up on craft, I'm

1:07:49 Speaker 2: past this nausea verdigost stage. But a lot of times

1:07:54 Speaker 2: when I'm coming back home, as I'm walking, I'll start

1:07:58 Speaker 2: to come fully conscious and in that still that it's

1:08:02 Speaker 2: a horrible verdigo where you just feel like you've been

1:08:05 Speaker 2: oh right, that kind of thing. So I think at

1:08:09 Speaker 2: some points I must be sent a pretty good distance.

1:08:14 Speaker 2: And so for whatever reasons, I have to be trained

1:08:19 Speaker 2: to breathe a fluid or and I have been on

1:08:23 Speaker 2: like underwater craft usos or that's not what they call them,

1:08:28 Speaker 2: but underwater and things. So I don't know really why

1:08:30 Speaker 2: they wanted me to learn to do that, but they

1:08:33 Speaker 2: did that. And then just other experiences is you know,

1:08:36 Speaker 2: playing around with different gadgets and things, teaching me things

1:08:40 Speaker 2: stuff like that.

1:08:41 Speaker 1: That so yeah, I guess you got to ask why right,

1:08:47 Speaker 1: so why so?

1:08:50 Speaker 3: And and.

1:08:53 Speaker 2: But they're very task oriented. There's not a lot of

1:08:58 Speaker 2: room for negotiationations or.

1:09:02 Speaker 1: Is time work to seem for them that there is.

1:09:04 Speaker 2: No such thing as time, So it can seem it

1:09:08 Speaker 2: can seem like I am there for weeks or days,

1:09:12 Speaker 2: but really when I come back here, it's hardly nothing. Yeah,

1:09:15 Speaker 2: in like sixty four years of age seems old here,

1:09:20 Speaker 2: but there that's just a that's nothing. That's nothing. And

1:09:24 Speaker 2: you know, my son and I have such active dream

1:09:27 Speaker 2: life with them sometimes and I'm just going to throw

1:09:31 Speaker 2: this out there. This is not a fact. This is

1:09:34 Speaker 2: just he and I have these deep conversations so are

1:09:39 Speaker 2: are so real and sometimes like you know, we'll have

1:09:44 Speaker 2: symptoms from whatever the excursions were that we were in.

1:09:50 Speaker 2: But anyway, sometimes we think maybe we are in a

1:09:55 Speaker 2: sleep stasis up there on craft and this down here

1:10:00 Speaker 2: is the dream.

1:10:02 Speaker 1: Holy shit, I imagine imagine that.

1:10:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had that. We think about that and wondered.

1:10:10 Speaker 1: That a lot because could this be the simulation.

1:10:16 Speaker 2: I don't know everything, but I do know that I

1:10:19 Speaker 2: have a very active life up there, and I do

1:10:21 Speaker 2: know that a lot of times I am not in

1:10:25 Speaker 2: my human consciousness while I'm up there doing things, but

1:10:28 Speaker 2: I remember things. So that's kind of strange.

1:10:31 Speaker 4: But yeah, because like you know, yeah.

1:10:40 Speaker 1: It's I feel like I've been the only one to

1:10:47 Speaker 1: have that feeling that I it seems like something's off

1:10:54 Speaker 1: just the other day. Now, I just I can't say

1:10:58 Speaker 1: this for for absolute certainty. But the car behind me,

1:11:04 Speaker 1: now I don't want to hear because today there are

1:11:07 Speaker 1: car less I mean driverless cars. This was an old Toyota.

1:11:12 Speaker 1: It would not be capable of having no driver.

1:11:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

1:11:19 Speaker 1: Write it behind me. It was driving and it was

1:11:23 Speaker 1: I'm looking for the driver, and I swear there was

1:11:26 Speaker 1: nobody there. Yeah, And I was like this, I couldn't

1:11:30 Speaker 1: have my phone because I would have to turn around

1:11:34 Speaker 1: and videotape and I probably wouldn't have got it through

1:11:36 Speaker 1: the glass, but I was actively looking in the rear

1:11:40 Speaker 1: view mirror, turning around, trying to like change the angle

1:11:44 Speaker 1: of the car ever so slightly to see if I could,

1:11:47 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they were a darker skinned person, so

1:11:49 Speaker 1: they were just going no, dude, there was no one

1:11:52 Speaker 1: in the car, right.

1:11:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. Yeah, there's a lot to this world

1:11:57 Speaker 2: that we are just now beginning to not only understand

1:12:02 Speaker 2: but see. You know, our awareness is increasing. So that's

1:12:06 Speaker 2: how I know we're full blast in this ascension. We're

1:12:10 Speaker 2: full of blast into it. It's happening. Yeah.

1:12:13 Speaker 1: Yeah. And just a couple months ago, my girlfriend and

1:12:18 Speaker 1: I we were making a commercial for one of our sponsors,

1:12:23 Speaker 1: and this glowing orb of light just came out of nowhere,

1:12:32 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, It just lit the forest up, and

1:12:37 Speaker 1: I had it on video. She saw me pull out

1:12:40 Speaker 1: my phone and start video recording it. We go, we

1:12:45 Speaker 1: go back to review it after we because when we

1:12:49 Speaker 1: got to where the light would have been, it was gone. Yeah.

1:12:53 Speaker 1: We went back to review the footage. Nothing was saved

1:12:58 Speaker 1: except one second. Wow, one second of footage just to

1:13:03 Speaker 1: show myself that it was there. Yeah, but not enough

1:13:07 Speaker 1: to prove to anyone that it was real.

1:13:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because that's one of those situations where it

1:13:12 Speaker 2: was only meant for you, you know, and for her,

1:13:15 Speaker 2: for y'all. So sometimes, you know, it's so crazy.

1:13:19 Speaker 1: Though.

1:13:20 Speaker 2: What I found is when situations like that happened, it

1:13:23 Speaker 2: is kind of like a reward system. Yes, it's like

1:13:28 Speaker 2: letting you know you're on the right path, and that's

1:13:31 Speaker 2: them giving you the goddance. You know, insane, you.

1:13:36 Speaker 1: Know, because could that be what what you know? Christopher Columbus,

1:13:41 Speaker 1: I know everybody hates him now, but he did he

1:13:44 Speaker 1: did right in his journal. Yeah, he had an experience

1:13:48 Speaker 1: about about an experience with an orb. Yeah you know, uh,

1:13:54 Speaker 1: the Israelites that were led through the desert. I mean,

1:13:57 Speaker 1: come on, yeah, Like I think everybody in the world,

1:14:01 Speaker 1: no matter what your religion, take a step back, just

1:14:04 Speaker 1: realize that we're all telling the same stories, we're all

1:14:07 Speaker 1: building the same monuments, right, yeah, what do we do?

1:14:12 Speaker 2: Let me let me give you an example, like I

1:14:14 Speaker 2: was asking at one time, I was asking the interdimensionals

1:14:19 Speaker 2: why they look so different than just you know, grays

1:14:22 Speaker 2: or reptilians, Nord et cetera, et cetera. And the way

1:14:27 Speaker 2: they explained it to me, if they were to teleport

1:14:32 Speaker 2: you and I back to biblical times. Okay, so they

1:14:37 Speaker 2: take us who we are today, at our frequency, et cetera,

1:14:42 Speaker 2: and take us back to biblical days. We walk out

1:14:46 Speaker 2: in front of these people at that time, to them,

1:14:50 Speaker 2: we would appear as the shiny ones. We would be

1:14:54 Speaker 2: looking luminescent and stuff because of our frequency difference between

1:14:59 Speaker 2: them and that stage of evolution and where we are

1:15:03 Speaker 2: right now. So I think what they're trying to say

1:15:06 Speaker 2: is that we're all gonna we're all going up a

1:15:10 Speaker 2: DNA ladder, working at being better human, better beings. But

1:15:16 Speaker 2: we have to go through these different phases to get there,

1:15:19 Speaker 2: and what seems so rare and different to us now

1:15:24 Speaker 2: will turn around and be the same things to another

1:15:27 Speaker 2: generation later.

1:15:28 Speaker 1: On, right right now.

1:15:31 Speaker 2: And it's kind of like what we were talking about,

1:15:33 Speaker 2: the ghost and things.

1:15:33 Speaker 1: Like that, you know, right? And why So? So I

1:15:38 Speaker 1: live in Massachusetts and everyone knows about the Salem with

1:15:44 Speaker 1: trials right the listen the land, you know that land,

1:15:52 Speaker 1: it holds that atrocity there.

1:15:55 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can imagine. I imagine you could just

1:15:57 Speaker 2: feel the.

1:15:58 Speaker 1: When you I swear, yeah, when you cross that timeline

1:16:04 Speaker 1: there is a feeling that it's like tingles your spine.

1:16:11 Speaker 2: I can imagine you know that that's so sad.

1:16:15 Speaker 1: But I grew up next to a road that is haunted.

1:16:20 Speaker 1: It's called Dudley Road, and uh there's a lot of

1:16:23 Speaker 1: connections to the Witch trials. Uh and uh I that's

1:16:27 Speaker 1: I made a movie about it. I'm editing it right now.

1:16:30 Speaker 1: So that's why, like I I the paraormal stuff, I'm like, uh,

1:16:35 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm getting I'm I'm engaging it more so.

1:16:40 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm I want to know more. But

1:16:45 Speaker 1: the the extraterrestrial agenda, it's it's the ultimate thing. It's yeah, uh,

1:16:53 Speaker 1: it's that I want to know the endgame.

1:16:56 Speaker 2: And absolutely, yeah, there's so much out there, you know,

1:16:59 Speaker 2: but I don't think we'll ever totally know everything. And

1:17:02 Speaker 2: anybody that tells you that they know everything.

1:17:05 Speaker 1: They are as nothing. So that's what's funny about this, Uh,

1:17:10 Speaker 1: this topic is Yeah, the ones that are often yelling

1:17:14 Speaker 1: the loudest about things that they know or how you

1:17:18 Speaker 1: should interact, or the ones that don't want the status

1:17:22 Speaker 1: quota change, that's.

1:17:24 Speaker 2: Right because they're in their own little world in reality

1:17:27 Speaker 2: and making their money exactly.

1:17:30 Speaker 1: Then why did they want the Why would they want

1:17:32 Speaker 1: the mystery to go away? When when you pay them

1:17:35 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars to do an appearance?

1:17:38 Speaker 2: Exactly?

1:17:40 Speaker 1: But I hope this is the first of many conversations.

1:17:44 Speaker 2: Oh I love it, Yes, yes, yeah, certainly, I'll give

1:17:48 Speaker 2: you my after we get off here, I'll give you

1:17:50 Speaker 2: my son's email and all that kind of stuff.

1:17:53 Speaker 1: And yeah, what would you say to the person, the

1:17:56 Speaker 1: average listener who may not feel that their frequency is

1:18:03 Speaker 1: high enough? How do you develop those kind of do

1:18:07 Speaker 1: you think that anyone can raise there?

1:18:10 Speaker 2: For?

1:18:10 Speaker 1: Obviously you think that, yes, So how does one do that?

1:18:17 Speaker 2: Meditate? Meditate is key? But what I do is I

1:18:23 Speaker 2: think we all should We should ask our subconscious. Our

1:18:26 Speaker 2: subconscious knows everything.

1:18:29 Speaker 1: So should we all take mushrooms?

1:18:32 Speaker 2: I don't know about I've never done that because I

1:18:35 Speaker 2: don't the only.

1:18:35 Speaker 1: Way I don't to speak to my subconscious.

1:18:38 Speaker 2: Well, I had a whole conversation with interdimensionals and stuff

1:18:44 Speaker 2: about that. For some people, that works for me, I'm

1:18:47 Speaker 2: already past that frequency. I have a direct line with them.

1:18:51 Speaker 2: I don't need that. But I'm not saying that it's

1:18:54 Speaker 2: not the path for everybody. But for me, that's not

1:18:57 Speaker 2: the path. But what I do is I meditate every

1:19:02 Speaker 2: single day, every single night, and I ask my subconscious

1:19:07 Speaker 2: to open up into my human consciousness. I give it

1:19:12 Speaker 2: permission to release information. I can handle it. I'm ready

1:19:19 Speaker 2: that you do not have to protect me any longer,

1:19:21 Speaker 2: because our brain and our consciousness does that. It protects us.

1:19:24 Speaker 2: It puts a boundary it. You know, it protects us.

1:19:27 Speaker 2: So I allow it permission to help me because our

1:19:31 Speaker 2: world is changing and we need to know the truth,

1:19:33 Speaker 2: we need to make decisions. And so I ask my

1:19:36 Speaker 2: inner soul self to come forward and help me. And

1:19:41 Speaker 2: I think that's what everybody should do, is find your

1:19:43 Speaker 2: inner soul self. Remember why you're here, Remember who you

1:19:48 Speaker 2: truly are, not the program, not the one you know now,

1:19:53 Speaker 2: I mean you still are that person. But also to

1:19:56 Speaker 2: know who your soul self is, what is it? What

1:19:59 Speaker 2: is really important.

1:20:00 Speaker 1: To you when you're alone, Right, when you're alone and

1:20:05 Speaker 1: nobody's watching, right, who are you?

1:20:10 Speaker 2: Yeah?

1:20:10 Speaker 1: Find out who that person?

1:20:11 Speaker 2: Trying to keep it in a quiet with no distractions.

1:20:16 Speaker 2: And when I say I meditate, I focus with pure intention.

1:20:21 Speaker 2: And when I say that, what I mean is not

1:20:24 Speaker 2: only am I thinking it, but I'm using a muscle

1:20:27 Speaker 2: in my brain and I'm I'm putting energy into it. Yes,

1:20:33 Speaker 2: you just show intention. And that also when I talk

1:20:36 Speaker 2: to extraterreacials and interdimensionals, I do that because when I

1:20:41 Speaker 2: am talking to them, that is the most important thing

1:20:44 Speaker 2: to me at the time, and I want them to

1:20:46 Speaker 2: know that I'm not playing a game.

1:20:48 Speaker 1: You know, it almost sounds like a beacon.

1:20:51 Speaker 2: It is, it is. It is a beacon. Our nail

1:20:54 Speaker 2: glen is like a peacon. We are like little antennas.

1:20:58 Speaker 2: But they've done us down and none.

1:21:00 Speaker 1: Of it works right. And so that's that's what I

1:21:03 Speaker 1: was getting at, is you know, how do we get

1:21:05 Speaker 1: the masses to open up? And I think that consciousness

1:21:09 Speaker 1: is the key because if you think, if you think

1:21:12 Speaker 1: about it, right, where the we're the Apex predator or

1:21:17 Speaker 1: the Apex Okay, as far as what we understand, yes,

1:21:22 Speaker 1: we are the top of the food chain for the

1:21:28 Speaker 1: Earth right now and the next stage of evolution because

1:21:32 Speaker 1: it won't be physical because nothing is physically right, it's not.

1:21:37 Speaker 1: Nothing's challenging us.

1:21:40 Speaker 2: Being attacked anymore, right, We're being attacked here. Everything is

1:21:45 Speaker 2: going to happen up here. From here on out, and

1:21:47 Speaker 2: this is where our technology is leading and where our

1:21:51 Speaker 2: future computers, future everything is going to be in our consciousness. Yes, yes,

1:21:57 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean we're going to turn into a ah No,

1:22:01 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be that way. That is another

1:22:04 Speaker 2: human construct. You know, extrapressionals and interdimensionals are not a

1:22:10 Speaker 2: so we don't have to become that either.

1:22:14 Speaker 1: Of a tool. Yeah, so exactly, yeah, it's a tool

1:22:19 Speaker 1: to to assist. But like I said, we can we

1:22:24 Speaker 1: can definitely chat more, but because I do like the

1:22:27 Speaker 1: AI conversation, but it's one to have in itself because

1:22:31 Speaker 1: it's very complex, but it's it's uh, I mean, it's

1:22:36 Speaker 1: ever present because it's everywhere right now and it's being

1:22:42 Speaker 1: talked about all over. So I definitely love to have

1:22:45 Speaker 1: you back and and chat more. But where can people

1:22:51 Speaker 1: reach out, find you and know what you're doing? You know, uh,

1:22:57 Speaker 1: spread your seed, let us know.

1:23:00 Speaker 2: My website is time Fordisclosure dot com. My Facebook group

1:23:04 Speaker 2: is Time for Disclosures slash. We have never been along

1:23:08 Speaker 2: slash we are the disclosure because I truly believe humans

1:23:12 Speaker 2: waking up and understanding who we are and our true

1:23:15 Speaker 2: potential is the true disclosure here. I am in a

1:23:20 Speaker 2: lot of Facebook groups I belong to move on. I

1:23:23 Speaker 2: belong to a lot of organizations Ope, US, Tessa, anything

1:23:27 Speaker 2: that has to do with extraterrestrials, interdimensionals, UAPs, anything that

1:23:34 Speaker 2: has to do support programs. So I try to keep

1:23:37 Speaker 2: a lot of those links, and I love to keep

1:23:39 Speaker 2: all you guys podcasts linked up into the groups so

1:23:43 Speaker 2: that people can get some good, truthful information. So yeah,

1:23:49 Speaker 2: anywhere on Facebook. And I haven't really ventured out into

1:23:53 Speaker 2: other media platforms, but maybe I will. Maybe I won't,

1:23:56 Speaker 2: but I like what I'm doing right now. Yeah.

1:23:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, whatever I can do to assist you, I'd

1:24:03 Speaker 1: be happy to help. Uh and uh here it is.

1:24:07 Speaker 1: I look forward to much much more collaboration and networking

1:24:12 Speaker 1: with you, Nancy, and you and your son. Thank you

1:24:15 Speaker 1: for the work that you're doing, and thank you to

1:24:18 Speaker 1: the eternal beings that are watching over us and out there,

1:24:23 Speaker 1: because it gives me hope. It gives me.

1:24:25 Speaker 2: Hope, anything of hope.

1:24:28 Speaker 1: So everybody out there in the podcast sphere, if you're

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1:24:37 Speaker 1: make sure to rate review the show. It really does help.

1:24:40 Speaker 1: It gets us to do audiences and kind of jump

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1:24:57 Speaker 1: do it now. Thank you, nan See, thank you everyone else.

1:25:01 Speaker 3: We'll see you on the other side.

1:25:07 Speaker 2: We can