UFOs, The Simulation & Religion. Feat. "FOX"- TOTAL DISCLOSURE

0:03 Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome back to Total Disclosure. My name's

0:08 Speaker 1: Ty I'm your host today. We're doing something a little

0:11 Speaker 1: bit special. Instead of having someone from the UFO community

0:16 Speaker 1: on like I normally do, or a scientist or an experiencer,

0:22 Speaker 1: I thought it would be cool to just have a

0:24 Speaker 1: regular person in a regular conversation. That's saying be a

0:27 Speaker 1: regular person. But I just I've been watching a lot

0:32 Speaker 1: of Theovonne lately, and some of his best episodes are

0:36 Speaker 1: with people that aren't like famous or like have this

0:43 Speaker 1: aura or you can this thing about them. So I'm

0:49 Speaker 1: joined today by my friend Fox's going on. Guys, This

0:54 Speaker 1: is Fox, and he's gonna join me for a nice

0:57 Speaker 1: little conversation. We're gonna talk about, you know, general stuff.

1:01 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the UFO topic, paranormal stuff. We'll get

1:05 Speaker 1: into all the things I normally do. But we're gonna

1:07 Speaker 1: have a good time doing it. I'm just opening up

1:10 Speaker 1: the studio, so we're kind of working out some kinks

1:13 Speaker 1: at the same time. So I hope you guys like it.

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1:34 Speaker 1: that's it. I mean, let's go, let's go. What's up Fox?

1:37 Speaker 1: How you doing? Brother?

1:38 Speaker 2: I'm excited happy to be here. Just every time I'm

1:42 Speaker 2: back in here, it's a it's just like so overwhelming

1:44 Speaker 2: with like good vibes and yeah, it's so much fun

1:47 Speaker 2: to be here. Yeah, I love it.

1:48 Speaker 1: So people won't know, but we did an episode before

1:53 Speaker 1: about a week ago, a little bit of a trial there.

1:55 Speaker 1: But that, yeah, so I might have I might have

2:01 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I might have had a little

2:05 Speaker 1: bit too much THHD in my body. And the cameras,

2:09 Speaker 1: both cameras were on Fox, not me. Not even one

2:12 Speaker 1: was on me, and you couldn't see me. It was

2:14 Speaker 1: just you could clearly tell the kinks were we weren't

2:19 Speaker 1: worked out. Let's just say that. But really, thank you

2:22 Speaker 1: for being here again. You know, I think I think

2:26 Speaker 1: it takes a brave soul to come and sit in

2:28 Speaker 1: front of the microphone and have a two hour conversation.

2:30 Speaker 2: So thank you for having me. It's nice to be

2:32 Speaker 2: able to get out of my comfort shell, and it's

2:34 Speaker 2: it's nice to do it with you know, good people.

2:36 Speaker 2: So it's like it's warming and thralling and you know,

2:39 Speaker 2: overall positive. So it's good to do right.

2:43 Speaker 1: And so some of the stuff that we're gonna talk

2:45 Speaker 1: about obviously we kind of touched on last time, but

2:48 Speaker 1: again for the sake of everybody, you're just gonna do

2:51 Speaker 1: it again.

2:52 Speaker 2: Yeah.

2:52 Speaker 1: So your name's Fox. Yeah, Now obviously my my the

3:00 Speaker 1: only other person I know that's named Fox. Who Why

3:05 Speaker 1: who named you that? And is there any reason behind it?

3:07 Speaker 2: Yeah? That was my mom and my dad who they

3:09 Speaker 2: had me. I was born in ninety five, so like

3:11 Speaker 2: very nineties child. They named me after Fox Moulder from

3:14 Speaker 2: the X Files, all about the extraterrestrial, all the you know,

3:19 Speaker 2: the unknown, the secrets, the like you were saying before,

3:22 Speaker 2: the paranormal everything, all the way to bigfoot NeSSI all

3:26 Speaker 2: those extra things that you know, people immediately disregard because

3:29 Speaker 2: it's you know, out of their realm of capability of

3:31 Speaker 2: being able to you know, see it, you know, conceive

3:33 Speaker 2: of whether or not something like that could actually be

3:35 Speaker 2: real in our world.

3:36 Speaker 1: Do you think? So it's so fucking cool to be

3:40 Speaker 1: named after Fox Mulder.

3:43 Speaker 2: Right, spooky Molder.

3:45 Speaker 1: Like that that alone just gets you to the like

3:49 Speaker 1: it brings you to the opera Acheloons in my in

3:51 Speaker 1: my book. But how do you I mean, as a

3:56 Speaker 1: person who's not like maybe read in I say read

3:59 Speaker 1: in like like we're talking about like the d O

4:01 Speaker 1: D or something. But someone who's not like super into

4:06 Speaker 1: UFOs and like always up on the news and stuff

4:08 Speaker 1: like that, do you think what's your thoughts? What do

4:12 Speaker 1: you think they exist? Do you I mean give me

4:15 Speaker 1: your give me your elevator idea?

4:17 Speaker 2: Yeah? I believe so, especially after what we were talking

4:19 Speaker 2: about last time, was because I did go and find

4:21 Speaker 2: that video because we were talking about it's still one

4:25 Speaker 2: about the guy who talks about needing a skiff to

4:27 Speaker 2: be able to provide all the genetic information that he

4:29 Speaker 2: has that's not human life forms, and they're just like okay,

4:32 Speaker 2: And then I just look at through in the in

4:33 Speaker 2: the comments and everyone's just like, yeah, they're still waiting

4:36 Speaker 2: on the skiff.

4:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's still so. He he worked for the I mean,

4:44 Speaker 1: he was a military did tours and then was part

4:49 Speaker 1: of the National Reconnaissance Office and he and he put

4:52 Speaker 1: together the daily briefing for the president, right, and then

4:57 Speaker 1: so he's doing that. This guy's clearly like, you know, trustworthy.

5:02 Speaker 1: You don't just get to that position. Yeah, yeah, you

5:05 Speaker 1: know how it works. You don't get to a position

5:07 Speaker 1: like that without earning it. And to be in that

5:11 Speaker 1: kind of role, it's not an elected role, right, You

5:15 Speaker 1: literally have to earn it. It's not somewhere you don't

5:17 Speaker 1: get elected into it or or appointed to it. You

5:21 Speaker 1: earn it. So that's the they end up going to

5:25 Speaker 1: him and every after. Shortly after the first UFO hearing

5:31 Speaker 1: in Congress, Congress called for basically every intelligence community, every

5:39 Speaker 1: every intel agency to have someone that they could talk.

5:44 Speaker 1: The UAP Task Force, which is what they were creating.

5:47 Speaker 1: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena the new word for UFO, so because

5:52 Speaker 1: they wanted to get away from the baggage. UFO kind

5:55 Speaker 1: of means little green Man in most people's minds, so

5:58 Speaker 1: they changed it to UAP sheds that baggage and it

6:01 Speaker 1: kind of allows for a broader topic. Yeah, whereas UFO's

6:06 Speaker 1: Unidentified Flying object, right, UAP is unidentified anomalist phenomena. That means,

6:12 Speaker 1: I mean it could be in the water, it could

6:14 Speaker 1: be trans medium.

6:15 Speaker 2: Kind of like the SCPs. Yeah, yeah, just like any

6:18 Speaker 2: form of something with which we don't have the ability

6:20 Speaker 2: to fully comprehend at the moment, but are capable of,

6:24 Speaker 2: you know, witnessing or experiencing in some degree. Yeah.

6:28 Speaker 1: Yeah. So that guy gets designated to be the liaison

6:34 Speaker 1: between the UAP Task Force who's looking into what our

6:38 Speaker 1: government knows, what our military knows about UFOs, mandated by Congress,

6:43 Speaker 1: mind you, and he finds all this shit, all of it.

6:48 Speaker 1: He gets told by many people that there's this legacy

6:52 Speaker 1: UFO program with a reverse engineering technology. He forty fifty

6:57 Speaker 1: people he interviews. That's where he gets the information that

7:01 Speaker 1: he talks about in his yeah, in his congressional testimony.

7:06 Speaker 1: And so Congress has been trying to get him into

7:09 Speaker 1: a skiff, which we talked about. You know what it is.

7:12 Speaker 1: A skiff is just a it's an electronic room, secure

7:15 Speaker 1: electronically secure room. Nothing gets in that is, you know.

7:19 Speaker 2: Like radio wave.

7:20 Speaker 1: Radio wave doesn't. Yeah, it's a it's.

7:22 Speaker 2: A what goes in that room and is said in

7:24 Speaker 2: that room does not come out of that room in

7:25 Speaker 2: any way, shape or.

7:26 Speaker 1: Form, unless yeah, exactly. So they were three years later,

7:33 Speaker 1: they still haven't got him in the skiff. Yeah, and

7:35 Speaker 1: why do you think that is?

7:36 Speaker 2: Because they don't want they you know, they're not ready

7:38 Speaker 2: for it.

7:38 Speaker 1: But the Congress isn't ready for it. Yeah, it's that

7:43 Speaker 1: the private aerospace companies who have all everything to lose, yeah,

7:52 Speaker 1: everything to gain, right, those are the people that the

7:56 Speaker 1: because the government doesn't do anything, the government doesn't name

8:00 Speaker 1: till anything in they contracted out. So they contracted all

8:05 Speaker 1: this stuff that they collected in these these you know,

8:08 Speaker 1: because what do you know about Roswell?

8:11 Speaker 2: Uh? Just what do you know? I say, Roswell is

8:15 Speaker 2: Roswell in New Mexico with the like the crash landing

8:18 Speaker 2: site boom.

8:19 Speaker 1: So if you'll pose crash, who do you think has

8:23 Speaker 1: that material?

8:24 Speaker 2: Definitely the government?

8:26 Speaker 1: And who do you think they're given it to to

8:28 Speaker 1: figure out?

8:30 Speaker 2: Scientists and Lockheed Martin who.

8:33 Speaker 1: Lockheed Martin Aerospace Company north of Grumman lock Aerospace Company.

8:39 Speaker 1: So you're going to because because as a government agency,

8:45 Speaker 1: maybe there something came around Jamie pull up. I'm gonna

8:50 Speaker 1: look it up right now. But you can't foil a

8:54 Speaker 1: private company.

8:55 Speaker 2: What do you mean?

8:57 Speaker 1: Freedom of Information Act?

8:58 Speaker 2: So oh, you can't get out.

9:01 Speaker 1: I can send a form into the CIA, and I

9:04 Speaker 1: and say, I want every every reference to this at

9:09 Speaker 1: this time in any context, and they have to give

9:13 Speaker 1: it to you.

9:13 Speaker 2: But not with a private company. And that's what they

9:16 Speaker 2: the aerospace companies are as private, so they give that

9:18 Speaker 2: all that stuff them, so they can't they don't have

9:20 Speaker 2: any legal obligation to share the information that they have.

9:23 Speaker 1: Good okay, So.

9:24 Speaker 2: Kind of like kind of like a modern day terms

9:26 Speaker 2: of service for like, you know, the stuff on your

9:29 Speaker 2: phone exactly in the in the fine print.

9:32 Speaker 1: Very similar. Right, So that's what we're up against right now.

9:37 Speaker 1: Eisenhower on his way out of the of the now,

9:41 Speaker 1: this guy was a general during Normandy, you know, like

9:45 Speaker 1: he stormed the beaches of Normandy. You know, this guy

9:49 Speaker 1: does not so like Eisenhower as a president.

9:52 Speaker 2: Yep.

9:53 Speaker 1: It's not like he didn't know how important the military was.

9:56 Speaker 1: The military saved the United States. Military saved the world

10:00 Speaker 1: from Hitler and and and and that way of life, right,

10:07 Speaker 1: the Nazi way of life. That that dictatorship that communists,

10:10 Speaker 1: you know, they know they weren't even a communist. There

10:13 Speaker 1: was just a dictatorship. Communism was was was the Soviet Union.

10:17 Speaker 1: But needless to say Eisenhower. It's not like he wasn't

10:21 Speaker 1: he didn't understand how important the military was. He does,

10:26 Speaker 1: but he also saw how dangerous it was becoming that

10:29 Speaker 1: they were contracting with private companies because there's supposed to

10:35 Speaker 1: be what our country is built on, checks and balances. Bro,

10:39 Speaker 1: If you don't have those checks and balances, where as

10:41 Speaker 1: good as Nazi Germany, where as good as China and

10:47 Speaker 1: under Kim Jungln. You know, like, if there's no checks

10:50 Speaker 1: and balances, there's nothing. So like that's what we're up

10:54 Speaker 1: against with and a lot of people like you know,

10:56 Speaker 1: no offense, a lot of people that don't understand the

10:58 Speaker 1: topic or don't want don't always talk, you know, they're

11:01 Speaker 1: not always in it. They don't understand what we're up against.

11:04 Speaker 1: And what you guys have been fed is propaganda. Yeah,

11:09 Speaker 1: that UFOs are all little green men coming to touch

11:14 Speaker 1: your ass and anal probe. You like, that's the disinformation. Yeah,

11:19 Speaker 1: that's the disinformation part. Have you ever seen anything crazy?

11:23 Speaker 2: No? No, I always like, look, I'm always like trying

11:27 Speaker 2: to like hope for it, Like when I go like

11:28 Speaker 2: camping or something or from like by myself. I'm always

11:31 Speaker 2: hoping for something but I've never gotten but you are

11:33 Speaker 2: looking yeah, like I'm always hopefully because like we also

11:37 Speaker 2: talked about that too. Growing up, I was like always

11:39 Speaker 2: watching you know, cartoons in movies, so I was always

11:41 Speaker 2: like into the idea of the realm of whatever else

11:44 Speaker 2: is out there. I don't want to disclose that because

11:45 Speaker 2: someone tells me it doesn't exist. Could you prove it?

11:48 Speaker 2: I mean, just because you can't see it, We don't know.

11:50 Speaker 2: Same thing with extraterrestual life, just because you can't see

11:53 Speaker 2: that there's no life just by looking up at space.

11:56 Speaker 2: I mean, like, does that really rule out that the

11:58 Speaker 2: possibility that I can't be there light years away because

12:01 Speaker 2: you can't.

12:01 Speaker 1: See it, right, I see? I like how you think, Yeah,

12:04 Speaker 1: because when you look at it like that is it's you.

12:07 Speaker 1: You stop seeing the world is black and white, yeah,

12:09 Speaker 1: and you start because I feel like the biggest trick,

12:14 Speaker 1: the biggest, one of the biggest like stunts ever pulled. Actually,

12:19 Speaker 1: this is a really good segue. So it's kind of

12:23 Speaker 1: funny to me that you know, when you're young and

12:26 Speaker 1: your parents lie to you about like the Easter Bunny

12:28 Speaker 1: and Santa and all the imaginary fairy tale creatures that

12:33 Speaker 1: make everything seem magical. The day you find out Santa

12:38 Speaker 1: Claus isn't real is the same day that they tell

12:40 Speaker 1: you Jesus is. Yeah, that's the one that's real, the

12:43 Speaker 1: one who fucking split water apart, made wine out of

12:47 Speaker 1: water and oh no, Moses split the red seat. Yeah

12:51 Speaker 1: sounds so bad, but like they lie to you, your

12:55 Speaker 1: your whole childhood about Santa Claus and then they tell you,

12:58 Speaker 1: but Jesus is real.

12:59 Speaker 2: Yes, So it's like, if some of this is real, like,

13:02 Speaker 2: if this is capable of happening, why wouldn't these ones be?

13:06 Speaker 1: The other thing that to me seven years about Santa Claus.

13:09 Speaker 1: You think I'm gonna believe you now, but some bearded

13:11 Speaker 1: white guy that hangs out in the sky and like

13:14 Speaker 1: makes all of my wishes come to if I ask nicely. Yeah, bullshit,

13:19 Speaker 1: bullshit mom.

13:21 Speaker 2: The other thing that it gets me too, is like

13:22 Speaker 2: the idea of uh. The other thing that that it

13:26 Speaker 2: gets me is is like there's always the Schrodinger's like box,

13:29 Speaker 2: like with the cat. Is the cat in there? Or

13:31 Speaker 2: is there no cat in there? And that the idea

13:33 Speaker 2: of that can transcend, transcend into just the concept of

13:37 Speaker 2: you know, you doing something slightly different creates a whole

13:40 Speaker 2: other parallel universe. And if if you can create infinite universes,

13:43 Speaker 2: who's to say that one of those doesn't include some

13:45 Speaker 2: of that stuff. Whether or not we're at a point

13:48 Speaker 2: in our timeline that we even know it, like what

13:51 Speaker 2: if it's what if? This stuff is real, but we're

13:53 Speaker 2: just not meant to see it for years in years

13:55 Speaker 2: and years and years because of some some uncalculated reason

13:59 Speaker 2: that you know, we couldn't comprehend. But it doesn't mean

14:02 Speaker 2: it's not possible.

14:03 Speaker 1: Because you ever seen a million dollars?

14:05 Speaker 2: What do you mean?

14:05 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a million dollars in cash in

14:09 Speaker 1: front of you? One million dollars? Do you know it exists?

14:12 Speaker 2: I've seen No, I don't know. I would assume O.

14:15 Speaker 1: Come on, you know it exists? Yeah, you know one way? Yeah,

14:19 Speaker 1: but you've never.

14:20 Speaker 2: Seen it true?

14:22 Speaker 1: Interesting huh yeah right, yeah, So it's it's it's for me.

14:27 Speaker 1: Reality is simply a construct we've agreed to prowl.

14:31 Speaker 2: Right. So my mom.

14:34 Speaker 1: Raised me to never really see the world as black

14:38 Speaker 1: or white. When I saw my UFO, when I told her,

14:43 Speaker 1: she wasn't like you saw balloons, you saw God, you

14:47 Speaker 1: saw a plane. She was like, bro, you saw UFO

14:51 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the fuck is the UFO? And

14:53 Speaker 1: she's like, well, we don't. We don't really understand everything.

14:57 Speaker 1: So she like let me know early on, and I

15:01 Speaker 1: kid about the SAYD and stuff, but I don't. I

15:02 Speaker 1: also don't because like, yeah, that lied to kids for

15:08 Speaker 1: many years about these magical creatures and then we expect

15:12 Speaker 1: them to not be remorseful and they find out that the.

15:16 Speaker 2: Press that's teaching them how the world works.

15:20 Speaker 1: And then they forced you to go to Sunday school. Yeah,

15:24 Speaker 1: my mom brought me to Sunday school one time. After

15:28 Speaker 1: we left, I'll never forget this. After we left, she goes,

15:34 Speaker 1: she looked at me and she's like, are we going

15:36 Speaker 1: back next Sunday? And I like looked up at her

15:40 Speaker 1: with this. It must have been a look disdain, disdain.

15:44 Speaker 1: She goes, not going back there, and I know I

15:47 Speaker 1: didn't think everyone. She never forced it on me, which

15:50 Speaker 1: I think allowed me to kind of. It doesn't stand

15:55 Speaker 1: through a phase where I was like, God's not real,

15:58 Speaker 1: Like I went my like what I call I don't

16:04 Speaker 1: know what I call it? Like if you know, we

16:07 Speaker 1: just die and there's nothing. Yeah, like I was like

16:10 Speaker 1: so and I was so sure about it, but also

16:14 Speaker 1: I'd be the first one to be like, please God

16:16 Speaker 1: get me out of the situation. Please, God get me

16:17 Speaker 1: out of the situation. Right, Yeah, that dichotomy fucks with me.

16:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the thing. I mean, Like, religion is

16:26 Speaker 2: it's tough because at some points I feel like it

16:29 Speaker 2: is very productive to have, but at some points I

16:31 Speaker 2: feel like it's a crutch that causes us to you know,

16:33 Speaker 2: not necessarily look at what's in front of us. I'm

16:37 Speaker 2: actually good right now, I'm vibing. Yeah, I'm gonna grab

16:40 Speaker 2: one of those in a second though, But yeah, yeah,

16:43 Speaker 2: because religion is just it's tough. I do think it's like,

16:45 Speaker 2: you know, it's nothing as ever, like we were like,

16:48 Speaker 2: the whole entire topic nothing is black and white. So

16:50 Speaker 2: I mean, like it goes into points of yeah, it

16:52 Speaker 2: can be restricting, but for the right person and the

16:55 Speaker 2: way that they perceive it could be you know, flourishing.

16:57 Speaker 2: And so it is weird to have the like fine

16:59 Speaker 2: line with how you know, like you see people on

17:02 Speaker 2: the like walking on the sidewalk with it it's the

17:04 Speaker 2: end of the world science because they're like God spoke

17:07 Speaker 2: to me and the world's ending tomorrow, and like, okay,

17:10 Speaker 2: that's one end of the spectrum. And then you get

17:11 Speaker 2: people who are like, well, God came and found me

17:13 Speaker 2: at my darkest hour and I completely turn and chained

17:15 Speaker 2: my life round. Yeah, of course, but that's see, that's

17:18 Speaker 2: the thing is. It's like, that's painting the spectrum of

17:20 Speaker 2: how like, you know, it's it is so weird about

17:23 Speaker 2: how like distinct the influences can be and how it

17:26 Speaker 2: affects us both short and long term because you know, again,

17:29 Speaker 2: no one has that proof to you know, distinguish it.

17:32 Speaker 2: And then you get people that you know, start questioning

17:34 Speaker 2: stuff like that. So it's it's it's a tough Yeah,

17:37 Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's it's good. It's good to question.

17:39 Speaker 2: And that's what that not looking at the world in

17:41 Speaker 2: black and white is is, because it's not questioning things.

17:44 Speaker 2: A lot of people, I feel like nowadays take it

17:46 Speaker 2: as it's negative to question things because you know, that's

17:48 Speaker 2: you showing this faith.

17:49 Speaker 1: Well, if you question it, that means you disagree, and

17:53 Speaker 1: if you disagree, then you're my enemy.

17:55 Speaker 2: That's what today is like, Yeah, it needs to be

17:58 Speaker 2: people need to go back to just being able to

17:59 Speaker 2: have like a discussion without having some alternative like means

18:02 Speaker 2: to it. It's just like, actually, you know, take it

18:04 Speaker 2: for what I'm like, you know, saying immediately and you

18:07 Speaker 2: know the emotions that I'm portraying to the words that

18:09 Speaker 2: we speak because we're so like distracted with our phones too.

18:11 Speaker 2: Is like we're more about typing out a conversation as

18:14 Speaker 2: supposed to having it, and that also creates us you know.

18:17 Speaker 1: Is not crazy.

18:18 Speaker 2: I don't think about this more, you know, face to

18:21 Speaker 2: face talk.

18:22 Speaker 1: I feel like, put your phone down and do this right. So,

18:27 Speaker 1: and I'm being genuine when I say it takes a

18:30 Speaker 1: legitimate person to be able to actually sit in the

18:33 Speaker 1: chair and have a conversation, because there's one thing. It's

18:37 Speaker 1: one thing to sit in the chair, but it's another

18:39 Speaker 1: to hold the conversation. Yeah, and it's it's another thing

18:42 Speaker 1: to be able to hold the conversation without every twenty

18:45 Speaker 1: seconds being like.

18:47 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah ah and door fit.

18:51 Speaker 1: You know, and think about this just because Mark Zuckerberg

18:56 Speaker 1: like that guy. I honestly, I'm I have a lot

18:59 Speaker 1: of questions as my friend because you know how he's like,

19:04 Speaker 1: you know, he's like he's Aspergers or whatever or whatever.

19:07 Speaker 2: You I have no idea. I don't see it I

19:10 Speaker 2: know yet. In fact, I've seen that movie that they

19:13 Speaker 2: did with What's Social Network? Yeah, I've seen that movie.

19:15 Speaker 2: It's just been so long since I saw that.

19:17 Speaker 1: With All Life the World, Yeah, where everyone now lives

19:22 Speaker 1: with a social like how a socially inept person lived,

19:27 Speaker 1: like wants to live isolated but still connected. Right, It's

19:31 Speaker 1: it's it's the isolationist dream. Double down on the COVID. Yeah,

19:36 Speaker 1: COVID gave people excuses to lock themselves up and then

19:41 Speaker 1: not see the world, and that does something to you.

19:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why. That's why it's the worst thing you

19:46 Speaker 2: can give someone in prison as the solitary Yeah, because

19:49 Speaker 2: you're cutting them off from any source of like other person.

19:52 Speaker 2: So that's like when you start losing it because you

19:54 Speaker 2: talk to yourself because like you don't have other people

19:56 Speaker 2: to convey and you know, be empathetic with.

20:00 Speaker 1: Did you know did you know some people don't have

20:06 Speaker 1: a voice in their head?

20:08 Speaker 2: Yeah? That was one that we were talking about, and

20:10 Speaker 2: that that one's always.

20:11 Speaker 1: That freaks me out, man.

20:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's do you have a voice in your head?

20:15 Speaker 1: You have?

20:16 Speaker 2: I have the inner monologue.

20:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have the inner monologue. I found out. I

20:19 Speaker 1: did a little bit more researching. That's funny because I

20:22 Speaker 1: think we're, like I said, we're probably better equipped this

20:25 Speaker 1: time around. I did a little bit more researching into that,

20:28 Speaker 1: and apparently it's like a mute form of your voice.

20:33 Speaker 1: So you're actually still speaking, it's just muted.

20:37 Speaker 2: Huh.

20:38 Speaker 1: But the vibe, yeah, you we'd have to look Jamie

20:41 Speaker 1: pull just I'm gonna make that.

20:44 Speaker 2: I'm like, I hear like I'm picturing the way that

20:48 Speaker 2: like the synapses fire.

20:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's like hitting mute on the TV. It's

20:53 Speaker 1: still coming through, but you've just you basically cut the

20:57 Speaker 1: A and the V out of the A V. Right,

21:00 Speaker 1: It's still coming in. The code is still coming in,

21:03 Speaker 1: but you've just muted it, right, the same way I

21:06 Speaker 1: can mute your microphone right now.

21:08 Speaker 2: That would be something to go into because that brings

21:10 Speaker 2: up the question is if it's just muted, does that

21:11 Speaker 2: mean that they are they're aware of those thoughts but

21:13 Speaker 2: choose to not listen to it, or are they just

21:16 Speaker 2: forcefully like have they muted it? Yeah? Have they have

21:19 Speaker 2: they done it? That's too Yeah, you do it enough?

21:22 Speaker 1: Time.

21:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that also would be a good way, like

21:24 Speaker 2: if I mean a good way, I don't say it

21:27 Speaker 2: as a good thing good way, but like as a

21:28 Speaker 2: defense mechanism, good thing for a brain to shut off

21:30 Speaker 2: that internal monologue if for some reason, you have a

21:32 Speaker 2: parent that does not encourage your growth and tells you

21:35 Speaker 2: that the things you're doing are so wrong. Well, whether

21:38 Speaker 2: it's verbal or physical. I mean, if you tell a

21:40 Speaker 2: kid they're doing everything wrong enough times, they're just gonna

21:42 Speaker 2: stop doing anything because they are waiting you to tell

21:45 Speaker 2: them what to do, because all they know is what

21:47 Speaker 2: you say is right. So why bother thinking to begin with?

21:50 Speaker 1: Wow, that's deep man, Yeah, do you think conscious What

21:54 Speaker 1: do you think about consciousness?

21:56 Speaker 2: I was actually thinking about that on my drive over here.

21:58 Speaker 2: I was like thinking to myself, I was like, okay,

22:00 Speaker 2: like how where because I like to do the with

22:03 Speaker 2: my own monologue. I like to do like self reflection

22:05 Speaker 2: type of thing and be like, you know, okay, acknowledge

22:07 Speaker 2: where I'm at, acknowledge you know this is what I'm

22:09 Speaker 2: doing currently right now. And then for some reason I

22:12 Speaker 2: was just like, but like, where where are these thoughts

22:14 Speaker 2: coming from? I mean, like I know that We're made

22:15 Speaker 2: up of cells, and cells are meant to survive. So

22:18 Speaker 2: if the cells are meant to survive and it comes

22:19 Speaker 2: from the cells, where does that process come from the cell? Okay?

22:22 Speaker 2: So the cells of somehow managed to formulate themselves into

22:24 Speaker 2: an organ of your brain when I should now gives

22:27 Speaker 2: you the ability to do all the compartmentalizing and stuff. Okay.

22:29 Speaker 2: So if it came from cells in some form of DNA,

22:31 Speaker 2: where it from that DNA cell creation in you know,

22:35 Speaker 2: the forming of a human does that create the ability

22:37 Speaker 2: for you to actually be able to process something with processing?

22:43 Speaker 2: So it's like, there's that's the It feels like you

22:47 Speaker 2: have a start wall in an m wall, but that

22:49 Speaker 2: gap in the middle is a floating void and you're like,

22:51 Speaker 2: how did we get from here to here? And how

22:54 Speaker 2: is there no bridge? But you needed to get You

22:56 Speaker 2: needed to get from here to here, otherwise we wouldn't

22:58 Speaker 2: be where we're at to even conception it.

23:00 Speaker 1: You know, I interviewed someone like I interviewed a cult guy.

23:04 Speaker 1: Obviously you know you were telling me about that one.

23:06 Speaker 1: But I interviewed they know, they think they know the reason,

23:09 Speaker 1: they think they know what the bridge is. They think

23:12 Speaker 1: that the aloheme, which are it's from the original. Now

23:17 Speaker 1: forgive me if I get this wrong, guys, someone will

23:19 Speaker 1: correct me. But in the original Judea Bible, like the

23:25 Speaker 1: original Jewish Bible, I think it's called the.

23:30 Speaker 2: Not the Tora. Right.

23:32 Speaker 1: What was the original jew Bible that sounded. I don't know.

23:42 Speaker 1: It starts with like a k or something.

23:44 Speaker 2: I thought it's not the Koran, right.

23:47 Speaker 1: No, that's that's like Muslim. But anyway, or maybe maybe

23:51 Speaker 1: maybe maybe you did just say it, it's.

23:52 Speaker 2: Not I'm not too like versed in like I know,

23:55 Speaker 2: I know of, like you know, faintly of their books,

23:58 Speaker 2: but I don't necessarily know to which risk active religion.

24:01 Speaker 1: You know, well, mention it never says God, not once.

24:05 Speaker 1: It says the Elohim, which is in translation, they say,

24:12 Speaker 1: so the Bible that was trans translated, they translated it

24:17 Speaker 1: to God, right, and Judaism, the modern Torah whatever it is,

24:25 Speaker 1: it says God. But originally it was the Elohim eloheim.

24:31 Speaker 1: If you break it down from like the ancient Greek

24:34 Speaker 1: means messenger from the sky, not not singular plural plural

24:43 Speaker 1: messengers from the sky. What does that sound like to you? Yeah,

24:48 Speaker 1: Aliens aliens from above. It's funny. So they think that

24:54 Speaker 1: the elohim genetically So they were scientists and they enhanced

25:01 Speaker 1: DNA that was already here. It was already created, thriving,

25:05 Speaker 1: and it was already proven to work. Right. We talked

25:08 Speaker 1: about the one hundred monkey.

25:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually just yeah, the evolutionary track.

25:12 Speaker 1: Once it's possible, it's possible, right. That's why like when

25:17 Speaker 1: a record, when a when an athlete shatters a world record,

25:21 Speaker 1: someone usually comes right up behind that shatters it. Because

25:24 Speaker 1: once it's possible, it's possible. Right, So once life creates

25:29 Speaker 1: that five pointed you know.

25:32 Speaker 2: The yeah, yeah, it's Vinci.

25:34 Speaker 1: Da Vinci's uh you know the five side.

25:39 Speaker 2: I should.

25:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's possible everywhere, right, It's possible everywhere. So now

25:47 Speaker 1: it's in that genetic library, so it's happening here. Well,

25:51 Speaker 1: that's gonna be recreated across space time because quantum entanglement

25:55 Speaker 1: shows us that when two Adams are intanged, whatever happens

26:01 Speaker 1: here happens here at the speed of now, not at

26:05 Speaker 1: the speed of night. No delay in the speed. That's

26:09 Speaker 1: why I say the speed of thought. Yeah, because the

26:12 Speaker 1: speed of thought.

26:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, instantaneous, you don't think about the thoughts, and if

26:15 Speaker 2: you do, you're still those thoughts that you're using to

26:17 Speaker 2: think about them are instantaneous as well. It's still like

26:19 Speaker 2: use your brain. It's like a computer with zero zero

26:23 Speaker 2: time between processing any form of task.

26:26 Speaker 1: Quantum computer.

26:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, doing it that fast. Yeah.

26:30 Speaker 1: And you brought up shirting his cat earlier. Yep, right,

26:34 Speaker 1: someone who's about to sit in that very chair. Riswan Verk.

26:39 Speaker 1: He's a MIT scientist and I connected with him. He's

26:44 Speaker 1: been on h Jesse. I think he's been on Jesse

26:48 Speaker 1: Michaels Shout Out Jesse. He's been on like Chris Ramsey's

26:52 Speaker 1: Area fifty two, I believe. I know he's been on

26:55 Speaker 1: Julian Dory's podcast. I know he's been on Danny Jones.

26:59 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's been again. I think it

27:01 Speaker 1: might have though. But he's a simulation theory got and

27:05 Speaker 1: so you know the old saying like if a bear

27:07 Speaker 1: shits in the woods.

27:09 Speaker 2: And no one's around to hear, it doesn't make a sense.

27:11 Speaker 1: Really If a tree, yeah, it's the same thing, the

27:14 Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, So he argues that it doesn't exist

27:18 Speaker 1: unless someone's there to observe it.

27:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like the NPC theory of like if

27:22 Speaker 2: it's not within your within your site, it's it's not loaded.

27:26 Speaker 2: It only because it was waste waste entergy. Yeah, that's

27:31 Speaker 2: why it's why it's so tough for a lot of

27:32 Speaker 2: people to be able to process the fact that on

27:34 Speaker 2: the other side of the world right now, other things

27:36 Speaker 2: are happening because you don't you see it. You only

27:39 Speaker 2: see it through TV and through like radio waves if

27:41 Speaker 2: you hear on the podcast.

27:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, think about the act.

27:45 Speaker 2: Well, I can't. I have no idea the validity of it.

27:47 Speaker 2: But I got like an advertisement or something to the

27:49 Speaker 2: day where it was like, oh, such and such just

27:51 Speaker 2: created the first three dimensional world like our AI simulation

27:56 Speaker 2: of the Earth, like down to a t really yeah,

28:00 Speaker 2: steroid basically yeah, And it's like it's kind of like

28:03 Speaker 2: just taking i don't know, like something out of like

28:06 Speaker 2: an old spy kids movie where it's like you pop

28:08 Speaker 2: up the hologram of the Earth and like when you

28:10 Speaker 2: zoom in you can see like if there's a person

28:13 Speaker 2: on like Fourth Ave in New York walking around, you

28:15 Speaker 2: zoom in on that person, it'll follow and track them

28:17 Speaker 2: around the thing. So it's supposed to like I think

28:19 Speaker 2: it was an AI simulate or AI program that's being

28:23 Speaker 2: used to develop a three dimensionally rendered version equivalent to that.

28:26 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's, like I said, I don't

28:28 Speaker 2: know the validity of how extensive it goes into if

28:30 Speaker 2: it's like gonna fall to people like that, but I

28:32 Speaker 2: would assume that they're not gonna just go, hey, we

28:33 Speaker 2: just made a three three dimensional rendering of the Earth

28:36 Speaker 2: if it didn't have something unique to it, because we

28:37 Speaker 2: can automatically just do CGI shit. So it's there has

28:40 Speaker 2: to be some like because there has to be like

28:43 Speaker 2: I think it was like Samsung or some shit, because

28:45 Speaker 2: like maybe they have the ability. It's like since it's

28:47 Speaker 2: a phone company that could do like radio wave pinging,

28:49 Speaker 2: and it like is able to you know, make a

28:51 Speaker 2: three dimensional map kind of like Google, but just with

28:53 Speaker 2: populated Yeah. Well that's the thing is because because you

28:56 Speaker 2: can now put into that three dimensional model the equivalent

28:59 Speaker 2: of an A that's like Okay, now you're you're taking

29:02 Speaker 2: all kinds of data from your average regular people and

29:04 Speaker 2: compiling it into a genetic form, so you can make

29:06 Speaker 2: an algorithm that produces a completely random person that's doing

29:10 Speaker 2: whatever they're doing so it's basically like a giant GTA,

29:13 Speaker 2: like you were saying. And so it's like and the

29:15 Speaker 2: thing is is that with the programming, it would get

29:18 Speaker 2: to a point where you could go in there and

29:19 Speaker 2: you could talk to a person and it would use

29:20 Speaker 2: the AI script that's already in there to generate in

29:22 Speaker 2: that character said a response based off of whatever you

29:25 Speaker 2: wanted to say. So it's the equivalent. You could put

29:27 Speaker 2: that headset on and start going in and if you

29:29 Speaker 2: have a microphone, it's gonna start input hearing this. But

29:31 Speaker 2: you're literally almost like one step away from the matrix

29:33 Speaker 2: without being stuck in a tube that's only sucking the

29:36 Speaker 2: nutrients from your body to fuel something else.

29:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you a question. If this is

29:44 Speaker 1: a reality, If this is a simulation. First off, funniest

29:49 Speaker 1: writers ever hoop whoever? If we have some If we're

29:54 Speaker 1: a simulation, I gotta give credit to the writers, because

29:57 Speaker 1: you guys wrote a fucking amazing story. Right, there's drama,

30:03 Speaker 1: there's bullshit, It gets the perfect story. Put Donald Trump

30:07 Speaker 1: in the presidency that will screw everything.

30:09 Speaker 2: Hidden lore in the back of our history that people

30:12 Speaker 2: are still discovering.

30:13 Speaker 1: The fucking United healthcare CEO. Right, like all and then

30:18 Speaker 1: drop a plague. Drop a plague on the motherfuckers. Let's

30:22 Speaker 1: see what happens, right, and like, shout out to the writers, bro,

30:26 Speaker 1: Like shout out to the writers, goddamn, you done well,

30:31 Speaker 1: Like you deserve an oscar for this one. But would

30:35 Speaker 1: that really because would that change that? I just felt

30:43 Speaker 1: that would it change your if you phoned out tomorrow?

30:49 Speaker 1: You see that?

30:50 Speaker 2: No, I think it's lightning out though I was gonna.

30:53 Speaker 1: Say, bro, that's crazy. So the writers just gave us

30:57 Speaker 1: a little sign the matrix writers. Damn, none of the

31:01 Speaker 1: cameras are point out that way, but flash. Yeah. So anyway,

31:09 Speaker 1: if we found out tomorrow that this is in fact

31:12 Speaker 1: the simulation, all of it's fake, would it really change anything?

31:18 Speaker 1: Do you think people would just like burn this ship?

31:21 Speaker 1: Do you think we just party till.

31:22 Speaker 2: They I think a lot of people would would stop,

31:25 Speaker 2: like holding, Yeah, we might be getting too dangerously close.

31:31 Speaker 1: I think we're getting too close in.

31:34 Speaker 2: Because I'm like, I'm thinking of myself, like technically at

31:36 Speaker 2: that point, if we were to all find out exactly,

31:39 Speaker 2: I think that there'd be a lot of chaos because

31:41 Speaker 2: people would be like, what's the point of doing my job.

31:43 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go, what's the point I'd be sureing up.

31:44 Speaker 1: Here, but the bills eventually come due.

31:47 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is. It kind of depends on

31:50 Speaker 2: when you're told that. It's everyone needs to find like

31:53 Speaker 2: an outcome too, because it's like.

31:56 Speaker 1: Bro, it's fucking biblically out there.

32:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're touching on some stuff.

32:03 Speaker 1: This is weird. Yeah for okay, so you guys probably

32:07 Speaker 1: can't hear that because the microphones are not going to

32:08 Speaker 1: pick that up. But it's starting to like like like

32:12 Speaker 1: it's thunder, like loud rumble thunder, and uh, it's just

32:16 Speaker 1: bringing that.

32:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's coming down pretty heavy out there. I can

32:18 Speaker 2: hear it through the window too.

32:19 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus.

32:20 Speaker 2: Anyway, So with the double matrix theory thing that actually,

32:25 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it would be pretty chaotic. But

32:27 Speaker 2: the thing is is it depends on the scale of

32:29 Speaker 2: everybody finding out because like I was watching, I was

32:32 Speaker 2: getting clips funny enough from the Matrix on my phone

32:34 Speaker 2: the other day and one of them was about how

32:36 Speaker 2: Neo goes to see the oracle, and when he goes

32:38 Speaker 2: to see the oracle, he basically has He's like, well,

32:40 Speaker 2: what's if you know that I'm going to take this pill,

32:42 Speaker 2: what's the point of me taking the pill? And it's

32:45 Speaker 2: I saw a good response into it in the comments

32:49 Speaker 2: that someone was like, well, it's not a matter of

32:51 Speaker 2: whether or not you should or shouldn't make the choice.

32:52 Speaker 2: It's about that you're going to make the choice. You're

32:55 Speaker 2: just doing it right now so you can find out why,

32:58 Speaker 2: why did you make that decision? And if it's already predetermined,

33:01 Speaker 2: sure that, yeah, it's predetermined, but where you are conceptually

33:04 Speaker 2: right now to understand the process with what you're in it,

33:07 Speaker 2: then you could yeah, yeah, good call, thank you, and

33:13 Speaker 2: yeah so that is uh yeah. With doing it that way,

33:16 Speaker 2: it's like it's okay if you did it one person

33:18 Speaker 2: at a time, as opposed to like, let's say you

33:20 Speaker 2: what a mass like release of everyone and being like, hey,

33:22 Speaker 2: this is a simulation. If you did it in a

33:24 Speaker 2: mass style, I think you would get a lot of

33:26 Speaker 2: chaos because you get a lot of people that I

33:27 Speaker 2: like that same they don't care about the bills that

33:29 Speaker 2: are that are coming because if it's a simulation, then

33:31 Speaker 2: that kind of who cares. Yeah, so, but if you

33:34 Speaker 2: did it one person at a time, and you gave

33:35 Speaker 2: them that explanation where it's like, Okay, just because you're

33:38 Speaker 2: gonna have to pay the bills and you'll die and

33:39 Speaker 2: you might have a shitty life, it doesn't matter that

33:41 Speaker 2: it's that's gonna happen no matter what. It's you understanding

33:44 Speaker 2: why it's happening, and you know, being being able to

33:48 Speaker 2: being able to process it. I want to say, like

33:51 Speaker 2: I don't want to say right way, but like you know,

33:53 Speaker 2: a healthy way to like be like, okay, this is

33:55 Speaker 2: and just you know, accept what is, because there's there's

33:58 Speaker 2: only a certain point of doing read in life where

34:00 Speaker 2: you like can't do anything, Like there's some situations where

34:04 Speaker 2: your hands are literally tied. You can't do anything, and

34:06 Speaker 2: you have to just accept it. And it's your process

34:09 Speaker 2: of whether or not you're gonna accept it comfortably because

34:11 Speaker 2: you know, what could you do but fight it or

34:14 Speaker 2: you know, go along with it? Like I kind of

34:16 Speaker 2: like how zen is, Like if you're drowning in a

34:18 Speaker 2: fucking ocean, are you going to fight the current? Are

34:20 Speaker 2: you just gonna go with it because it's gonna happen anyways.

34:23 Speaker 2: So it's it is definitely tough because if you know,

34:27 Speaker 2: well I feel like for me, it would probably just

34:30 Speaker 2: I'd keep doing what I'm supposed to be doing. But

34:32 Speaker 2: I feel like it might take a little bit of

34:33 Speaker 2: the stress off because it'd be you think it would help, Yeah,

34:36 Speaker 2: because I feel like if I was like, if I

34:38 Speaker 2: was told that it was a simulation, I mean, like,

34:39 Speaker 2: everything is going to continue the way it's supposed to be,

34:41 Speaker 2: I wouldn't necessarily question about whether or not the ending

34:44 Speaker 2: is pre written. I just wouldn't care. I'd be like, Okay,

34:46 Speaker 2: that's just kind of you don't. Yeah, I just be like, Okay,

34:49 Speaker 2: that means that this is when it's gonna happen. So

34:50 Speaker 2: I'll just do what I'm doing. I'm gonna go about

34:52 Speaker 2: exactly what I was doing the right way I was

34:54 Speaker 2: supposed to be doing. Because if it's if it's in

34:55 Speaker 2: a simulated world, that means that this is scripted to happen.

34:58 Speaker 2: Why fight it?

35:00 Speaker 1: Oh? Man? I think I think you might have broke

35:02 Speaker 1: the internet just right now.

35:04 Speaker 2: Listen.

35:04 Speaker 1: What the fuck is the That's what I mean, that's

35:07 Speaker 1: my point. If it's a simulation, what is that?

35:11 Speaker 2: What?

35:12 Speaker 1: What what can we do right now? Like? What changes?

35:15 Speaker 1: This is still ability to live? This is still what

35:18 Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to do. This is still what

35:21 Speaker 1: I can touch, This still is gonna taste the same,

35:24 Speaker 1: even though I know it's not real, because what the

35:26 Speaker 1: fuck is real? Anyway?

35:27 Speaker 2: Well, that's an it's I just was. It kind of

35:29 Speaker 2: just popped in my head too, because if if you

35:31 Speaker 2: were told that it's a simulation, you wouldn't necessarily worry

35:34 Speaker 2: about like lineage and like history that you're leaving behind.

35:37 Speaker 2: You'd worry about what you're doing right right now and

35:40 Speaker 2: what you already have to be given you like, because

35:42 Speaker 2: your simulation, I mean, it's gonna it's gonna be That's

35:45 Speaker 2: the thing. I mean, like it takes off a lot

35:46 Speaker 2: of pressure and it gives you the freedom to be

35:48 Speaker 2: able to go, Okay again, you just go, you go

35:51 Speaker 2: with that flow, and who knows where that would bring you,

35:53 Speaker 2: and it might bring you to somewhere that you're supposed

35:55 Speaker 2: to be then and then again that that can also

35:58 Speaker 2: be like cause that being in a simulation, it really

36:01 Speaker 2: depends because who knows at that point with what happens

36:03 Speaker 2: with the information that you've collected, Because then that opens

36:06 Speaker 2: the other door to Okay, if it's a simulation, then

36:08 Speaker 2: how what's the equivalent of like, when you do die,

36:11 Speaker 2: is is it like, are you just you know, rewritten

36:13 Speaker 2: into another person? Yeah? Like is that why reincarnation is

36:16 Speaker 2: the thing? Is because some of us get written into

36:18 Speaker 2: a new person, but sometimes a little bit of coding

36:20 Speaker 2: gets left behind and now you get deja vu flashbacks.

36:22 Speaker 1: Ah, Bro, you just touched on some one of my

36:25 Speaker 1: old my old app my I used to I had

36:27 Speaker 1: this big compendium of because I graduated the year before

36:31 Speaker 1: the world was supposed to end.

36:33 Speaker 2: So we talked about this.

36:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, but no one's gonna know. No, no one see

36:40 Speaker 1: that that.

36:40 Speaker 2: Technically, that foot is just an alternate reality.

36:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, we know it exists, but they don't.

36:48 Speaker 2: Also, there could be in the in the theoretical world,

36:50 Speaker 2: when that camera turns off, who knows that that could

36:52 Speaker 2: have presented an entirely other universe with what happens when

36:56 Speaker 2: like the camera turns off and we walk away to

36:57 Speaker 2: that great infinite universes Where I punched the hole in

37:01 Speaker 2: the wall and then pete on the floor and left,

37:03 Speaker 2: or is there another one where I dove out the

37:05 Speaker 2: window or is there a one where I just casually

37:06 Speaker 2: walked down the stairs but tripped in eight. Shit, it's

37:09 Speaker 2: like so many different infinite possibilities because one small thing happens,

37:12 Speaker 2: which also kind of goes with the butterfly effect of

37:14 Speaker 2: you know, if you touch one thing, it could spawn

37:16 Speaker 2: an entirely different chaotic you know, path in time.

37:19 Speaker 1: Right, which, So going back to what you just said

37:23 Speaker 1: about the that theory, So they like specifically with DejaVu,

37:31 Speaker 1: I have this theory that because you've had DejaVu right, Yeah,

37:36 Speaker 1: like where it's almost like it's.

37:39 Speaker 2: Like, wait a second, it feels like you literally just

37:41 Speaker 2: repeated that exact moment, Like it feels like you had

37:44 Speaker 2: a double skip and you like pulled yourself back and

37:46 Speaker 2: pulled back, but from a different it feels like you

37:48 Speaker 2: weren't there to begin with. But we were like, oh

37:51 Speaker 2: I I am here, I just experienced this. Why does

37:53 Speaker 2: this feel like I just do it? Did this again?

37:56 Speaker 2: Like a tear?

37:57 Speaker 1: What if you the same reason? See, I don't.

38:02 Speaker 2: I don't.

38:02 Speaker 1: I believe that reincarnation is probably real because the universe

38:07 Speaker 1: is not. It's it's a lot of things, but one

38:09 Speaker 1: thing it's not.

38:09 Speaker 2: Doesn't waste yea, it's not wasteful.

38:11 Speaker 1: It's new, it's not not wasteful. So whatever consciousness is

38:18 Speaker 1: in our form, I think that the same reason instinct exists.

38:24 Speaker 1: Right Like a baby sea turtle is born on in

38:28 Speaker 1: the in the sand on the instinctively goes right to

38:33 Speaker 1: the water. How does it know? Tell me how the

38:37 Speaker 1: fuck does it know to go to and and and

38:42 Speaker 1: how is it?

38:44 Speaker 2: No?

38:44 Speaker 1: To do it as fast as possible because the birds

38:47 Speaker 1: are gonna be.

38:48 Speaker 2: From like right out the eggs immediately know.

38:54 Speaker 1: To get to the water quick as possible. Boom boom boom,

38:57 Speaker 1: and the animals all around. I can go into so many.

39:00 Speaker 1: Most creatures on Earth are born ready to live. Humans

39:07 Speaker 1: are really the only exception.

39:08 Speaker 2: You're pretty defenseless, pretty defenseless for how many years? Quite

39:12 Speaker 2: a few? Yeah, right out of the gates of screaming,

39:15 Speaker 2: screaming in the middle of the woods and like rolling

39:18 Speaker 2: back and forth like our minute. Yeah, something would be like,

39:20 Speaker 2: oh wow, dinner's calling me. I've seen those videos where

39:24 Speaker 2: like there's a kid that say likes pressed up against

39:26 Speaker 2: a glass window for the backyard, and you can just

39:28 Speaker 2: you watch the mom zoom into two bright yellow eyes

39:31 Speaker 2: like a mountain lion that's in their backyard eye and

39:33 Speaker 2: their kids a snack like a separate him is a

39:37 Speaker 2: thin piece of glass.

39:39 Speaker 1: Makes you really question why are we here? Yeah, because

39:44 Speaker 1: every other creature seems to serve some sort of purpose.

39:47 Speaker 1: The bees, they pollinate the flowers like down. People don't

39:52 Speaker 1: think mosquitoes do things, but mosquitoes do actually do things.

39:55 Speaker 2: They're technically a food source. Yeah, for other things.

39:57 Speaker 1: I think we might have brought this up last time too.

39:59 Speaker 2: It's tough.

40:00 Speaker 1: It's tough because wait, wait, I don't want to lose this,

40:02 Speaker 1: because I will lose it. Instinct and deja vu are

40:06 Speaker 1: clear indicators that you are a human. You'll always be

40:11 Speaker 1: a human, right. That's you've been in these scenarios countless

40:15 Speaker 1: times that yeah, maybe you're having some sort of glitch

40:18 Speaker 1: in the matrix where you're seeing like, oh shit, I

40:21 Speaker 1: have been in this situation before. How did like, how

40:24 Speaker 1: is it that you instinctively will know to move left

40:26 Speaker 1: versus you know what I mean? There's all these things

40:29 Speaker 1: deja vu instincts.

40:30 Speaker 2: Like. Another good one for that too, is also the

40:32 Speaker 2: capability of like zoning out while you're driving, like I

40:35 Speaker 2: was driving, Yeah, literally because I was I was autopilot

40:38 Speaker 2: zoning out just looking at the sky. Wow, I just

40:42 Speaker 2: drove three miles and almost missed my exit because I

40:44 Speaker 2: was just like fully focused on autopilot. And how did

40:46 Speaker 2: I manage to just drive on the highway at regular

40:48 Speaker 2: highway speeds while not even really paying attention like it's

40:52 Speaker 2: but still doing it is you know safely in those.

40:54 Speaker 1: Things you're doing while you're driving too, how many mill

40:59 Speaker 1: action that you take? Like, because all time is is

41:04 Speaker 1: just a bunch of naves compiled upon each other, right,

41:07 Speaker 1: so you know how many knaws are happening? Yeah every

41:12 Speaker 1: single second? Now no, no, no, no, So you're making a

41:15 Speaker 1: conscious decision, like physically or subliminally every moment you're making

41:21 Speaker 1: that you know whatever, so the like. And that's why

41:26 Speaker 1: I don't think a human will become like a dog.

41:30 Speaker 1: I don't think that that kind of stuff happens.

41:33 Speaker 2: Like another species becoming more of a like cognitive predators

41:37 Speaker 2: domesticate us.

41:39 Speaker 1: And then hear me out on this. Now you look

41:43 Speaker 1: at everything, like I said, so so now we now

41:46 Speaker 1: we let's go on the assumption that reincarnation is real. Right,

41:50 Speaker 1: you're you're a human. You might be a female, right,

41:54 Speaker 1: still human that might that might switch today's day and

41:58 Speaker 1: age it don't even matter.

42:00 Speaker 2: Could be like a thing with the force where it's

42:02 Speaker 2: like you're genetic, you're genetically not predisposed to be any

42:05 Speaker 2: gender if you were to be reincarnated, because it just

42:07 Speaker 2: it's maybe that's where that comes it's providing whatever the

42:09 Speaker 2: universe needs. Maybe that's where it comes from.

42:12 Speaker 1: Like it could explain where this idea of a woman

42:16 Speaker 1: trapped in a man's body comes from, or a man

42:20 Speaker 1: right attachments that you couldn't let go of or whatever.

42:23 Speaker 1: So this explains a lot of ship And then I'll

42:26 Speaker 1: take it a step further again. We look at all

42:29 Speaker 1: the creatures of the Earth. They all feed the ecosystem

42:32 Speaker 1: of life. They all do something to sustain environment going right,

42:39 Speaker 1: except us, And they tell us if evolution is if

42:43 Speaker 1: evolution is true, they're trying to tell us that we

42:49 Speaker 1: shed so we stood upright off four legs, only to

42:56 Speaker 1: have massive back issue. Right, We shed our fur only

43:02 Speaker 1: to need pelts in the winter. The sun burns our skin,

43:08 Speaker 1: doesn't burn any other thing on Earth. It's like, yeah,

43:15 Speaker 1: like biological.

43:16 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is everything else that's evolved has evolved

43:19 Speaker 2: to understand that it can't withstand those conditions and has

43:22 Speaker 2: a defense mechanism. About it up, Why are we the

43:27 Speaker 2: worst suited?

43:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, because is our biological clock more tuned to Mars?

43:34 Speaker 1: These are all I think we came. I think listen.

43:38 Speaker 1: I do not want to sound like I agree with

43:40 Speaker 1: the cult people, but I really do think. Look at Mars.

43:45 Speaker 1: We know that it had an atmosphere at one time

43:49 Speaker 1: it was more earth like than Earth now, right, it

43:53 Speaker 1: was more. It was actually in a better.

43:55 Speaker 2: Spot, had water and everything.

43:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it was a little cooler. It was

44:00 Speaker 1: so the way that it wasn't where it is now,

44:05 Speaker 1: and Earth wasn't where it is now. Things were shifted

44:08 Speaker 1: a little bit up right, is what they say. And

44:13 Speaker 1: there's that giant scar across Mars. What happened. I think

44:18 Speaker 1: the ancestors or whatever life was on Mars was sophisticated

44:23 Speaker 1: enough to have a couple podships that left. And I

44:27 Speaker 1: think that's who people mistake is God, the sky people

44:31 Speaker 1: that the Native all cultures around the world seem to

44:35 Speaker 1: talk about this, our origins being the Eloheem the star

44:42 Speaker 1: or Native Americans called them the sky people, the ant

44:45 Speaker 1: people that came from the sky. They taught civilization and

44:50 Speaker 1: then we built monuments to them like the Pyramids stuff

44:55 Speaker 1: like that. That's why the pyramids like they've they think

44:58 Speaker 1: they found pyramids on Mars. Yeah, they think they found

45:01 Speaker 1: obelisks on Mars. I think there's a good chance human

45:05 Speaker 1: beings originated on Mars, and and we came here as

45:11 Speaker 1: we because we knew something was about to happen. There's

45:13 Speaker 1: actually a huge radiological signature on Mars too. The isotopes

45:18 Speaker 1: and the glass that are on the surface have been

45:22 Speaker 1: analyzed and it seems like a nuke went off there.

45:26 Speaker 2: That could be where the creative came from.

45:28 Speaker 1: Think about it.

45:29 Speaker 2: This is also could pan into the whole reason why

45:32 Speaker 2: you were telling me about the story with the with

45:35 Speaker 2: the Cold War, with the nukes arming and disarms, because

45:37 Speaker 2: they already knew what happened, and it already happened, and

45:40 Speaker 2: now they're just like, no, not again.

45:44 Speaker 1: Now you're thinking. Now you're thinking, right, and your average

45:49 Speaker 1: person doesn't think about this? Why do you? Why wouldn't they?

45:53 Speaker 1: And why are we labeled crazy because we do?

45:57 Speaker 2: I think it's it kind of pans back to the

46:00 Speaker 2: thing I was saying to the last time is that

46:02 Speaker 2: people don't have like the time for it because they

46:04 Speaker 2: know that they only have so much finite time in

46:06 Speaker 2: their life to be able to, you know, relegate to

46:09 Speaker 2: certain topics and subjects.

46:12 Speaker 1: But isn't it like like doesn't it just come with consciousness,

46:17 Speaker 1: like wondering about if we're alone and what happens after

46:20 Speaker 1: we done?

46:20 Speaker 2: Know? Because I mean some of those people out there

46:22 Speaker 2: in the world are the black and whites. They just

46:25 Speaker 2: either whether or not they were not raised or whether

46:27 Speaker 2: or not they yeah, I mean NPC's black and white,

46:30 Speaker 2: whether they were not, you know what's sort I'm looking

46:34 Speaker 2: for it, like they weren't raised to actually question and

46:36 Speaker 2: think about things and you know, use their imagination whatever

46:39 Speaker 2: it may be. There are people out there that just

46:41 Speaker 2: don't care for it, don't want anything to do with it.

46:43 Speaker 2: They have their their regular nine to five, go to work,

46:46 Speaker 2: come home, make a microwave TV dinner, and then maybe

46:49 Speaker 2: go golfing with their friends on the weekends, and that's

46:51 Speaker 2: their entire life until they die. Maybe find a wife

46:54 Speaker 2: in there, have a kid, send to college. That's all

46:56 Speaker 2: that those types of people are and they're okay with that.

46:59 Speaker 2: That's the thing they don't Well, there are people that just.

47:01 Speaker 1: They take one vacation a year and it's still.

47:03 Speaker 2: Like there are people that are thoroughly okay with it.

47:06 Speaker 2: And that's the thing.

47:07 Speaker 1: We kind of need that too, don't we.

47:09 Speaker 2: Well that well, yeah, because if you had all of them,

47:14 Speaker 2: it would make a lot of these ideas that we

47:17 Speaker 2: have not as unique and not they wouldn't stand out

47:19 Speaker 2: to be criticized because everybody would be saying them. And

47:23 Speaker 2: then so now you really wouldn't know whether or not

47:25 Speaker 2: someone's saying it because it's their opinion or if it's

47:27 Speaker 2: because there's so many other people out there that they

47:29 Speaker 2: don't even know which one of them is right. If

47:31 Speaker 2: everybody's doing it right, because like if everybody, if everybody

47:35 Speaker 2: had their own theory, like actually, like if every single

47:38 Speaker 2: person on the planet had their own theory in some way,

47:40 Speaker 2: shape or form, it's start telling someone else about it.

47:42 Speaker 2: And then now you got everybody going around telling things

47:45 Speaker 2: that they'd it's basically you wouldn't You couldn't. You could

47:48 Speaker 2: not be able to distinguish whether or not someone because

47:51 Speaker 2: it's like it would end up being cell phone tech.

47:53 Speaker 2: You get so many people that are just like, this

47:55 Speaker 2: is what I think it could be, This is what

47:56 Speaker 2: I think it could be. That now Okay, you don't

47:58 Speaker 2: even know where to start on how to be to

48:00 Speaker 2: try and to cipher which one of these we should

48:01 Speaker 2: be as a collective species working on with Again, still

48:04 Speaker 2: the very limited, Like most humans only live to about

48:06 Speaker 2: one hundred years. Anything past one hundred, even if they're

48:09 Speaker 2: still alive, they're not really mentally cognizant enough to be

48:11 Speaker 2: able to make those striving leaps in technological you know,

48:14 Speaker 2: gaps and education. And if they are, it's, you know,

48:18 Speaker 2: it's it's minimal, it's it's much more you know, diminished

48:20 Speaker 2: because of their age. So realistically, as humans, we only

48:23 Speaker 2: have a certain finite amount of time to work with

48:25 Speaker 2: what we want to spend our time with. And some

48:28 Speaker 2: people like, yeah, I've with all the odd jobs I've

48:31 Speaker 2: lived in my life, I've met people that are like

48:33 Speaker 2: cashiers at the salvation Army that are just completely okay

48:36 Speaker 2: with that. And that's that's no hate on them for that,

48:38 Speaker 2: because it's like, Okay, that brings you solace, you enjoy that,

48:41 Speaker 2: that's fine by you. You don't want anything more, and

48:43 Speaker 2: it's not hurting you to not want that. That's perfectly fine,

48:46 Speaker 2: hurt for you to do it. Yeah, exactly, So but

48:48 Speaker 2: that would make the difference of why Okay, there's you know,

48:52 Speaker 2: it's not nearly as much of a topic is because

48:54 Speaker 2: a lot, I want to say, probably a larger portion

48:57 Speaker 2: of you know, the population is probably more geared to

49:00 Speaker 2: is that, like you know, just as a general sense,

49:02 Speaker 2: maybe like a sixty forty split, and only the forty

49:04 Speaker 2: percent are the ones that have the creative ideas because like,

49:08 Speaker 2: it's just so many people that again, with the finite

49:11 Speaker 2: amount of time you have and the upbringing from your

49:13 Speaker 2: parents and the genetic problems that they had with their

49:16 Speaker 2: all their family issues that you're now dealing with, it's

49:18 Speaker 2: a lot for someone to be able to, you know,

49:20 Speaker 2: devote brain processing power to something otherworldly other than am

49:25 Speaker 2: I going to have groceries tomorrow?

49:27 Speaker 1: Right?

49:27 Speaker 2: So it's you get those mixes in there, and then

49:30 Speaker 2: that creates the amount of like you know, for that's

49:33 Speaker 2: why it's the criticism is fine, because that's a lot

49:36 Speaker 2: of those people that are like, you know, they're more

49:39 Speaker 2: well put they're the like upper tier for that is

49:42 Speaker 2: that they're well put together, not that they're okay with

49:43 Speaker 2: their life not being any more than what it is.

49:46 Speaker 2: But that's where you get to like the top tier

49:47 Speaker 2: of like that's people that openly talk about like you know,

49:50 Speaker 2: like new news shows, wake up shows, stuff like that.

49:53 Speaker 2: They pull an article up because it's a quick, like

49:55 Speaker 2: thirty minute topic they can talk about. And then basically,

49:57 Speaker 2: because that's their job, they have to come up with

49:59 Speaker 2: pro and cons and what do people like more they

50:02 Speaker 2: like as a reaction, they get the cons because that

50:04 Speaker 2: strikes more questions for the audience to go, what do

50:06 Speaker 2: you mean that's that's something that's something that I don't understand,

50:10 Speaker 2: and now you're making me angry, but I like you,

50:12 Speaker 2: but the topic doesn't make me happy, And then now

50:14 Speaker 2: you get that disconnected like that's where you get the

50:16 Speaker 2: people who negatively criticize it because they don't care to

50:20 Speaker 2: you know, dive into the realm of possibility that within

50:23 Speaker 2: their the timeline that they have on their life that

50:25 Speaker 2: you know, them making a couple hundred thousand dollars and

50:28 Speaker 2: living in a penthouse, that's that's all they need. They

50:31 Speaker 2: don't care about what's happening after they die because yeah, exactly,

50:35 Speaker 2: So that's where you get the criticism aspect. So it's

50:38 Speaker 2: like you get those the lumps of people who don't

50:41 Speaker 2: care because they don't want to do anything because it's

50:43 Speaker 2: not important to them, and the people that criticize it

50:45 Speaker 2: because of that, and then you get that small niche

50:47 Speaker 2: area where with the people that are talking about it,

50:48 Speaker 2: and in that that's where you find people like me

50:50 Speaker 2: who it's like we're interested in talking about it, but

50:53 Speaker 2: there's so much of that other side of people not

50:55 Speaker 2: being part of it societally that that's where it creates

50:58 Speaker 2: that kind of like I guess you could say plateau

51:02 Speaker 2: for you know, that's why you know For me, this

51:05 Speaker 2: is it's I'm enjoying this and I'm doing it more

51:08 Speaker 2: because I am enjoying it because it is opening up

51:10 Speaker 2: my brain more. But there's not like I don't know,

51:12 Speaker 2: if you put five of me in a room, maybe

51:14 Speaker 2: the other four wouldn't do it. And then now you

51:15 Speaker 2: got like that one chance. Okay, now you're relinquished only

51:18 Speaker 2: the one person, and now they not are like you know,

51:21 Speaker 2: they're trying to decipher things. So it's it's definitely in depth.

51:25 Speaker 2: That's it goes, right, Yeah, like it goes. There's definitely

51:29 Speaker 2: different layers to it and you know, societal impact issues.

51:33 Speaker 2: And then again also once you start throwing religion on

51:35 Speaker 2: top of that, and then you know, you also got

51:38 Speaker 2: to calculate it and whether or not someone has the

51:40 Speaker 2: correct chemical composition in their brain to be you know,

51:43 Speaker 2: but they're what they're saying even have any actual validity

51:46 Speaker 2: because are they you know, chemically like cognitive to say that,

51:50 Speaker 2: or are they saying it because they're missing a chunk

51:52 Speaker 2: of their brain And that's you know, like someone that

51:55 Speaker 2: has like Tourett's and just as random words. It's one

51:57 Speaker 2: of those random words for the person that doesn't have,

51:59 Speaker 2: you know, the ability to create it as they're saying that,

52:02 Speaker 2: and then Okay, someone's now gonna believe that just because

52:04 Speaker 2: they heard it on the odd chances and now that

52:06 Speaker 2: they didn't even know that, that person doesn't have a

52:07 Speaker 2: fucking they're missing the front of a little bit. They

52:09 Speaker 2: got a little botomy because they knew something, and now

52:11 Speaker 2: they're just spitting random knowledge that doesn't make any sense

52:14 Speaker 2: to someone takes whatever hits the wall.

52:17 Speaker 1: What makes a lot of things.

52:22 Speaker 2: I was thinking about that I watched the other day,

52:24 Speaker 2: and that's actually one of the questions in here that

52:26 Speaker 2: that's a good example is I think for you is

52:28 Speaker 2: I was watching one of the Predator movies, and in

52:30 Speaker 2: the Predator movie, the one that I had watched was

52:32 Speaker 2: basically about how they're evolving and getting to their next

52:35 Speaker 2: step of their evolution to be you know, the almighty

52:37 Speaker 2: Apex Predator. And they basically said, of the three main characters,

52:43 Speaker 2: it's a dad, his son, and some other random chick

52:46 Speaker 2: and he basically goes, I want you. You're gonna be

52:48 Speaker 2: the next leader of the planet. You're the one that's

52:50 Speaker 2: gonna save them. And the guy the father he's like

52:53 Speaker 2: running after them trying to like be like I'm the

52:55 Speaker 2: one you want. Nope, the Apex Priator walked over and

52:57 Speaker 2: grabbed the little boy because the little boy had autism

52:59 Speaker 2: and he was able to understand the language of the

53:01 Speaker 2: Predator and be able to fly the ship, wear the helmet,

53:04 Speaker 2: open turn skins. So like, does that also at the

53:07 Speaker 2: same part of like if you have some sort of

53:09 Speaker 2: you know.

53:10 Speaker 1: Uh what we would call it defect?

53:13 Speaker 2: Well yeah, so yeah, like that's the thing is, well.

53:15 Speaker 1: What if it's not what I it's the next level?

53:17 Speaker 2: That's the thing is it could be it's it's a

53:19 Speaker 2: toss turn because what if you do get the people

53:20 Speaker 2: that have a genetic defect in their brain that doesn't

53:22 Speaker 2: actually cause them to process. But then you see some

53:25 Speaker 2: kids with autism that just they know everything about a train.

53:28 Speaker 2: They know it's down down to the fucking bolts that

53:30 Speaker 2: are in the wheels down the track from nineteen twenty three.

53:33 Speaker 2: Immediately huge and for that, But it's that topic of

53:37 Speaker 2: idea of they do it with trains. Sometimes they have

53:39 Speaker 2: it where they're interested in like cars or like food.

53:43 Speaker 2: They are able to latch onto it like a topic

53:45 Speaker 2: or subject idea. No, but so they.

53:51 Speaker 1: Rat contact in the desert. The scientist was and one

53:55 Speaker 1: of the families. But these non verbal autistic children are

54:00 Speaker 1: essentially reading their mother's minds. Nonverbal communication, okay, empathy, yeah, bro,

54:06 Speaker 1: like legit.

54:07 Speaker 2: My mom talks about one of those with my brother.

54:10 Speaker 1: They demonstrated it.

54:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, because my brother was like, she tell me about that. Yeah,

54:15 Speaker 2: she was telling me about that one time, like when

54:17 Speaker 2: he was growing up. He was like having so much

54:18 Speaker 2: trouble like eating anything and like breastfeeding and then I

54:21 Speaker 2: can't I have no idea what it was, but she

54:24 Speaker 2: said that like one day she was like she really

54:27 Speaker 2: was just like trying to find ways to convey to

54:29 Speaker 2: him to eat and he I can't remember what it

54:31 Speaker 2: was that she gave him, he ate it, and like

54:33 Speaker 2: this was on a track record of like he would

54:35 Speaker 2: throw up other food and you think.

54:38 Speaker 1: That does she think that there was some sort of

54:41 Speaker 1: non verbal like telepathy going on, like listen, you know

54:45 Speaker 1: you need to eat, like you need to.

54:47 Speaker 2: Be yeah, because she's always like you know, I mean,

54:48 Speaker 2: you know how mothers are. They would say that they

54:50 Speaker 2: had their links with their kids. But like when she

54:51 Speaker 2: was talking about it with my brother, I mean like

54:53 Speaker 2: you could kind of like feel that more like I

54:55 Speaker 2: don't know, like weird way to put it, but like

54:58 Speaker 2: that spinal tap kind of feeling like you felt it

55:00 Speaker 2: like further than like as opposed to feeling it in

55:03 Speaker 2: your chest, you felt it on the like interior.

55:05 Speaker 1: Of your spine, like with you another weird thing.

55:09 Speaker 2: Connected to like all your nerves and.

55:12 Speaker 1: Like that right, and so another weird thing about humanity

55:20 Speaker 1: in general. Have you ever been thinking about someone and

55:24 Speaker 1: then like all of a sudden they text you or

55:26 Speaker 1: call you or you know, like have you ever had

55:28 Speaker 1: one of those moments?

55:30 Speaker 2: Not that I can recall, I feel like, oh, but

55:32 Speaker 2: that seems like a deja vu moment. But the best

55:34 Speaker 2: way that I can describe it because I actually was

55:36 Speaker 2: just doing this. What was the phrase? Okay, I was

55:39 Speaker 2: just watching a movie. I can't remember what the movie was.

55:42 Speaker 2: It might have been one of the Predator movies. But

55:44 Speaker 2: the character goes a via condios and that's like a

55:47 Speaker 2: Spanish saying or something like that. It never heard that

55:50 Speaker 2: in my entire life, never, like not once heard it.

55:52 Speaker 2: I'm like watching I think it might be King of

55:54 Speaker 2: the Hill, and I watched an episode where Dale just

55:57 Speaker 2: goes via condisa and I'm just like, I just heard

56:00 Speaker 2: that like within the last day and the first time

56:03 Speaker 2: ever in a movie, and now I'm hearing it again

56:05 Speaker 2: within a forty eight hour timespan. That's just like, what

56:08 Speaker 2: are the chances of like actually that spirit because that's

56:10 Speaker 2: a very like specific Yes, that's a very specific phrase.

56:14 Speaker 2: Like that is not just like a hey, thank you, hey,

56:17 Speaker 2: thank you. No, that's that's you know, you can chock

56:19 Speaker 2: that up, but like I don't believe that's a very

56:21 Speaker 2: unique set of phrase. They're like that one's hard to

56:26 Speaker 2: knock off.

56:26 Speaker 1: Us Us in the UFO community, right talk about it

56:30 Speaker 1: like it's some fucking uh club or cult ironically, in

56:37 Speaker 1: the UFO community they call it a synchronicity. So, and

56:41 Speaker 1: I would implore you to do that. So anytime something

56:45 Speaker 1: like that happens, write it down. Yep, write it down,

56:50 Speaker 1: and then after a while start going through them and

56:52 Speaker 1: it's like you're getting told a message.

56:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. I find like if you do it, you'll be

56:57 Speaker 2: able to record and do the timestamps and find out

56:59 Speaker 2: the exact like and then you can start making like

57:01 Speaker 2: you're the differences between those gaps that it happens into.

57:05 Speaker 1: Do you think now, Okay, so you said on record

57:11 Speaker 1: that statistically it's improbable that we're alone in the universe, right, yep,

57:19 Speaker 1: So it's one thing that they exist. Let's bring it

57:22 Speaker 1: a step further. Do you think that there's some that

57:26 Speaker 1: are visiting Earth?

57:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'd be like, if they have the capability

57:31 Speaker 2: to travel, just in general, they have the capability to

57:33 Speaker 2: do stuff like blend in it's the same thing as like, again,

57:36 Speaker 2: a good reference to do it is with like the

57:37 Speaker 2: capability of like the Predator. I know this is still

57:40 Speaker 2: sci fi and everything, but like you just take that

57:41 Speaker 2: for example, an alien came to our planet has super

57:44 Speaker 2: crazy they have the same you know, traits like their

57:46 Speaker 2: hunter like that's what we do. That's why we can

57:48 Speaker 2: you know, understand what they're doing. But like they got

57:50 Speaker 2: like invisibility close so there's no doubt in my mind

57:52 Speaker 2: that they couldn't you know, either manipulate themselves some way

57:55 Speaker 2: physically or like that's a good example to we talked about,

57:58 Speaker 2: was the telekinesist type of thing to just alter or

58:00 Speaker 2: mind through some sort of like waves that when you

58:03 Speaker 2: look at me, you just see me as a human.

58:05 Speaker 2: You know, there's all kinds of all kinds of possibilities

58:07 Speaker 2: if it's if it's life that's not from this planet

58:10 Speaker 2: and it's getting to this planet. The technology that they

58:12 Speaker 2: have at their disposal has to be able to, you know,

58:13 Speaker 2: provide them some sort of means of either you know,

58:16 Speaker 2: camouflage or or yeah, the ability to blend in any

58:20 Speaker 2: of those things that sense. Because like we've talked about

58:23 Speaker 2: how you know, the space spacecraft would need to be

58:25 Speaker 2: able to manipulate gravity. If you can manipulate gravity, you

58:27 Speaker 2: can manipulate manipulate your appearance. I mean, just take us

58:30 Speaker 2: as a species for right now. With the world of

58:33 Speaker 2: special effects, you could basically you get TV shows undercover

58:36 Speaker 2: bosses because people don't have they have no idea that

58:38 Speaker 2: that's the person that pays their their check and that's

58:42 Speaker 2: just that's us with our like.

58:44 Speaker 1: Just complete blending in.

58:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I like there's no shot like they don't have.

58:48 Speaker 1: If you're not laughing for it, you're not going to

58:50 Speaker 1: see it.

58:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean the other thing too, is that

58:52 Speaker 2: if they're going to be here, they're not just going

58:54 Speaker 2: to be consistently doing only flying over and you know,

58:57 Speaker 2: being hey, how are you like once in a blue moon,

58:59 Speaker 2: They're they're gonna see us. They're going to be just

59:02 Speaker 2: the same way that we are. We're curious species. There's

59:04 Speaker 2: no way that if they're you know, flying and able

59:06 Speaker 2: to visit us, that they're not also curious themselves to

59:09 Speaker 2: be able to figure out, you know, what makes us tick.

59:11 Speaker 2: Not necessarily as you know, like probing and lobotomy, but

59:14 Speaker 2: like how are they how do they act in social

59:16 Speaker 2: environments type of deal. So you know, you obviously want

59:18 Speaker 2: to observe if you're going to if you if if

59:21 Speaker 2: like if you took like your average scientist and you went,

59:24 Speaker 2: I have a shuttle right here that'll take you to

59:26 Speaker 2: a space to another planet with life on it, and

59:28 Speaker 2: there's a cloak in there. You wear that cloak and

59:29 Speaker 2: they'll they will never detect you. That scientist is going

59:32 Speaker 2: to go see you go and then he's gonna put

59:34 Speaker 2: that ship and start researching everything. He's gonna start looking

59:37 Speaker 2: at everything that's going on and the like, because if

59:40 Speaker 2: you got unfiltered access to another like uh, you know, uh,

59:46 Speaker 2: cognitive species, you're gonna want to be like, what what

59:48 Speaker 2: kind of like what go just same thing? Like yeah,

59:51 Speaker 2: same thing. What's going to look into tribal tribal tribal

59:54 Speaker 2: like groups and stuff from old ages? We're always like,

59:57 Speaker 2: what's going on here? What? What kind of religion were

59:59 Speaker 2: you guys to do? What were the buildings, what were

1:00:00 Speaker 2: you wearing? What did you kill? What did you eat?

1:00:02 Speaker 2: So it's like if you did that for another cognitive

1:00:05 Speaker 2: species that has the ability to fly to planet to planet,

1:00:08 Speaker 2: you're gonna want to be able to like figure that out.

1:00:10 Speaker 2: And even if that other planet doesn't know you're coming.

1:00:13 Speaker 2: That's the other reason of why you'd want to hide

1:00:15 Speaker 2: and be you know, the camouflage is because if you

1:00:17 Speaker 2: were there in your normal state, they're going to see you.

1:00:19 Speaker 1: You're going to alter the.

1:00:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to change their environment. They're gonna start

1:00:22 Speaker 2: reacting to you. That's going to change how you would

1:00:24 Speaker 2: have it in the history will change. Yep. So that's

1:00:27 Speaker 2: why you'd have to, like, you know, if you're if

1:00:29 Speaker 2: you were like a sentient species that's trying to research

1:00:33 Speaker 2: another another species, the best case scenario wouldn't would be

1:00:36 Speaker 2: that they would never know you exist, period.

1:00:39 Speaker 1: And that's why I I do throw shade at the

1:00:41 Speaker 1: idea that that they're evil, if they were evil, if

1:00:47 Speaker 1: there was an evil race of beings, right, hear me out,

1:00:52 Speaker 1: I'm not saying so, there's a difference between being evil

1:00:56 Speaker 1: and being indifferent. Indifferent just means that you don't give

1:01:00 Speaker 1: a what happens to them. You're serving your agenda right

1:01:08 Speaker 1: to us, that may seem bad, but it's not right.

1:01:12 Speaker 2: Well, it's in the means of like, before you had

1:01:14 Speaker 2: someone's consent to be able to use their body as

1:01:17 Speaker 2: a cadaver for health, you were just taking dead bodies

1:01:19 Speaker 2: without anybody like. That's how you got people that would

1:01:21 Speaker 2: sneak bodies into a basement.

1:01:23 Speaker 1: That's a real dark, fucking example, bro, It's.

1:01:27 Speaker 2: The best one that I could think of.

1:01:28 Speaker 1: That's so so direct went to the dead body.

1:01:31 Speaker 2: Well could think about it. That's how you that's how

1:01:33 Speaker 2: we learn to use you know, electric synapses in people's bodies,

1:01:36 Speaker 2: because like there that necessarily back then wasn't as such

1:01:39 Speaker 2: a like, hey can I take your body when you're dead?

1:01:41 Speaker 2: It was you're dead.

1:01:43 Speaker 1: It wasn't a form.

1:01:45 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick this in here, at this body in

1:01:46 Speaker 2: here so I can do some research. No one's ever

1:01:48 Speaker 2: gonna do other research, you know, you know, maybe that's

1:01:54 Speaker 2: where you get the probe probing from, because maybe there's

1:01:56 Speaker 2: multiple different types of aliens, and some of them are like,

1:01:58 Speaker 2: I don't give a fucker. I'll just fuck the shit. You're

1:02:00 Speaker 2: another you're another species. I don't care. I'll learn about

1:02:02 Speaker 2: your scientific organs and fuck the shit out of it.

1:02:04 Speaker 2: So you never know. I mean, that's the thing is

1:02:07 Speaker 2: if one of them is here, who's to say there's

1:02:09 Speaker 2: not all kinds of them from their own species. And

1:02:11 Speaker 2: there's you.

1:02:12 Speaker 1: Know, like there's a pervert.

1:02:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some alien dude who just genetically makes himself

1:02:16 Speaker 2: look like maybe that's where you get some pedophiles and

1:02:19 Speaker 2: they're just like, yeah, you know what, that's what I

1:02:20 Speaker 2: want I'm gonna look like this that way, maybe they

1:02:22 Speaker 2: won't they won't see me. You know, you never know,

1:02:25 Speaker 2: because it's a realm of possibility that's possible. We just

1:02:28 Speaker 2: you know, I'm thinking of.

1:02:31 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of like a Peeping Tom version of an alien.

1:02:36 Speaker 2: Just the best way to think about it is Roger

1:02:38 Speaker 2: from American Dad. He's like the alien that he just

1:02:42 Speaker 2: walks around and wearing his costumes, but living human lives,

1:02:45 Speaker 2: like having sex with people, completely normal. That's the thing too,

1:02:48 Speaker 2: is I mean like he does that. Sometimes he's a

1:02:51 Speaker 2: psychopath and is like actually, like I'm preppy, sire. There's

1:02:54 Speaker 2: an entire episode where he's like lobotomizing Jeff Haley walks in,

1:02:57 Speaker 2: he's missing the top of his skull. He's like, oh

1:02:59 Speaker 2: hey Haley, and she just walks out like it's nothing.

1:03:01 Speaker 2: And then some some episodes he'll he'll he has ones

1:03:05 Speaker 2: where he actually lives entire lives with other families in

1:03:07 Speaker 2: different personas and he's having sex with them because he's

1:03:09 Speaker 2: you know, he's married to husbands and he's a dude

1:03:12 Speaker 2: married to a wife. So he's he's an alien that's

1:03:14 Speaker 2: having sex with people.

1:03:15 Speaker 1: It's the Roger, Yeah.

1:03:17 Speaker 2: That's there. Because that's the thing. It'd because simple of

1:03:20 Speaker 2: us to think that if there's life form out there,

1:03:22 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be the same unique, it wouldn't be carbon

1:03:24 Speaker 2: copy cut gray dude, it will you like they'd have

1:03:27 Speaker 2: if they look the same, That doesn't mean they have

1:03:28 Speaker 2: the same personalities, right, it's saying their own free will

1:03:32 Speaker 2: showed up.

1:03:33 Speaker 1: That's like saying every uh, every person from mainland China

1:03:37 Speaker 1: is the same person. Yeah, they may all look alike,

1:03:42 Speaker 1: just like.

1:03:42 Speaker 2: Taking any party, Like even with a pair of with

1:03:44 Speaker 2: a pair of identical twins, they have completely different fucking

1:03:48 Speaker 2: mental thought, thought processes and personalities. Sometimes you get the

1:03:52 Speaker 2: couple twins where it's like they you know, there's something else.

1:03:55 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think there's always.

1:03:57 Speaker 2: Also that could also pay a part of play a

1:03:59 Speaker 2: part in that same deal of like you know, autism

1:04:02 Speaker 2: with it being a genetic thing, and like the telekinetic

1:04:04 Speaker 2: connection between you know, a parent to their child. If

1:04:07 Speaker 2: you're too too bearing, you know, you know, fetuses in

1:04:11 Speaker 2: the same womb, there's gonna be some form of connection

1:04:14 Speaker 2: between you two with all you know, the nutrients you're sharing.

1:04:16 Speaker 2: And that's you're not not speaking right. There's like there's

1:04:20 Speaker 2: liquid in there. So if you're sharing, if you if

1:04:22 Speaker 2: you have a thought in your brain as a fetus,

1:04:24 Speaker 2: it's going to travel through your body to the umbilical

1:04:27 Speaker 2: cord that you're attached to that's also attached to another

1:04:29 Speaker 2: another feting.

1:04:30 Speaker 1: It's so weird to think twins. Freak me out, bro.

1:04:32 Speaker 2: I like the the idea of it, because I it's

1:04:35 Speaker 2: but it just shows.

1:04:36 Speaker 1: You how incredible not only the about the human brain

1:04:43 Speaker 1: like an but the human anatomy.

1:04:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, can hold. That's also fraternal twins. I had two

1:04:48 Speaker 2: friends growing up my entire life, there were there were twins,

1:04:50 Speaker 2: but look nothing alike, completely separate personalities, born like fifteen

1:04:53 Speaker 2: minutes apart.

1:04:54 Speaker 1: Same crazy and there's always some sort of like weird

1:04:58 Speaker 1: connection that they have like we're like they know the

1:05:01 Speaker 1: other ones in trouble or.

1:05:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, they get that like spider sense and that's.

1:05:04 Speaker 1: The speed of Now that is that not telepathy? So

1:05:08 Speaker 1: what I think is happening in our in our and

1:05:11 Speaker 1: again I go back to this idea of a social construct,

1:05:13 Speaker 1: a social agreement that we've all made, and we've all

1:05:16 Speaker 1: made this agreement that aliens don't exist like the mainstream

1:05:20 Speaker 1: is then and I think the pentagon in the Vatican

1:05:23 Speaker 1: and Church, like I think they cover up really began

1:05:26 Speaker 1: with the Church, because the US government is fairly recent

1:05:29 Speaker 1: in history, and let's go on the notion that these

1:05:33 Speaker 1: things have probably been visiting us for all times.

1:05:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Vatican Church has been around for a

1:05:38 Speaker 2: long time because it was the most number one religious

1:05:41 Speaker 2: symbol of the time.

1:05:42 Speaker 1: They were judged, jury and executioner. They were. They were

1:05:46 Speaker 1: the ones who told you how to think. They were.

1:05:48 Speaker 1: They ran the world like a dictator.

1:05:50 Speaker 2: If you were heretic communicated, Yeah, put any put in

1:05:56 Speaker 2: the stocks to.

1:05:58 Speaker 1: The Galileo him on a house arrest because he challenged

1:06:03 Speaker 1: the narrative that the Earth was not the center of

1:06:06 Speaker 1: the universe. Had a telescope. He had a telescope and

1:06:10 Speaker 1: he said, I can show you. So here's the ignorance

1:06:15 Speaker 1: of the Church.

1:06:15 Speaker 2: It's like flat flat Earth is being able to see

1:06:18 Speaker 2: that we're right, that it's spherical, but then arresting you

1:06:20 Speaker 2: because you're still saying it'spherical and we have the evidence.

1:06:22 Speaker 1: Well, not even just arresting you, bostracizing, ending your your

1:06:26 Speaker 1: essentially ending your life right because you don't fit, you

1:06:32 Speaker 1: don't want to conform.

1:06:33 Speaker 2: To fit the narrative, so they label you as a

1:06:35 Speaker 2: heretics so that everybody else doesn't try to think like you,

1:06:38 Speaker 2: because then they see that, Okay, this person.

1:06:39 Speaker 1: That Johnny down the road when he questioned the narrative,

1:06:42 Speaker 1: I can't.

1:06:43 Speaker 2: Leave his house. I'm not for me. I like the

1:06:46 Speaker 2: outside world.

1:06:47 Speaker 1: The thing is he had the proof.

1:06:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's yeah.

1:06:51 Speaker 1: Do you think Okay, so we've gone now to the

1:06:56 Speaker 1: life exists. It's it's probably here, and if it is here,

1:07:02 Speaker 1: it's blending in and it's trying not to be known.

1:07:05 Speaker 1: Right now, Well, now let's take it a step even further.

1:07:12 Speaker 1: Tomorrow Boom, the curtain comes out, the President comes up

1:07:20 Speaker 1: to the potium, shuffle some papers. My fellow Americans, I

1:07:33 Speaker 1: don't know how to tell you this, but we're not alone,

1:07:38 Speaker 1: and I can prove it to you. You know, here's

1:07:40 Speaker 1: the proof whenever or you know, in a couple hours,

1:07:43 Speaker 1: like this dot we're gonna drop this dotier that will

1:07:46 Speaker 1: show you everything that we know. So do you think so,

1:07:54 Speaker 1: do you think something similar like if we found out the.

1:07:56 Speaker 2: Simulation, that's what I was thinking of right now, is.

1:07:59 Speaker 1: I think it'd be a similar chaos, people partying, and like, like.

1:08:05 Speaker 2: Not necessarily because I feel like it's finding out that

1:08:09 Speaker 2: there's other life. I feel like it's completely you know, yeah,

1:08:13 Speaker 2: so we're not the only telling you that.

1:08:16 Speaker 1: So in this disclosure scenario, we find out that they

1:08:20 Speaker 1: have been lying to us. Roswell did happen? They have

1:08:23 Speaker 1: killed people to keep the secret? Alien abductions are real?

1:08:27 Speaker 1: Like all of it's true, and tomorrow we find out

1:08:31 Speaker 1: that's all real.

1:08:32 Speaker 2: I think it would be because it's it's kind of

1:08:35 Speaker 2: like the simulation one. But on the other hand, it's

1:08:38 Speaker 2: not because so if for the simulation when I feel

1:08:40 Speaker 2: like it applies that if telling everybody in a big

1:08:43 Speaker 2: televised thing like that might be a little bit overwhelming

1:08:45 Speaker 2: for people, But we think, yeah, because that's a that's

1:08:48 Speaker 2: a real game change.

1:08:51 Speaker 1: Do you think they would change?

1:08:52 Speaker 2: No, because the thing is you have to have a

1:08:54 Speaker 2: concise unite united front of not just the president but

1:08:58 Speaker 2: like every president all take other like all the big influences,

1:09:01 Speaker 2: like the popes. You need all of those like big

1:09:03 Speaker 2: headed figures to come collectively in one big conglomerate because

1:09:07 Speaker 2: that is so it is that big and that like

1:09:10 Speaker 2: as a species of human beings. Yeah, so you would

1:09:13 Speaker 2: need like a united front for all of them to

1:09:17 Speaker 2: be able to do it. If you were to broadcast

1:09:19 Speaker 2: it like that, I because you would you have so

1:09:22 Speaker 2: many people not believing. You'd have so many people who

1:09:24 Speaker 2: didn't watch the news and be like, the fuck you

1:09:25 Speaker 2: talking about? You said, there's aliens on the TV. You're

1:09:27 Speaker 2: fucking nuts, and then you know, until they'd have to

1:09:30 Speaker 2: go back and watch it, and then right there that creates,

1:09:32 Speaker 2: you know, disconnect between the sentence actually happened. Yeah, I

1:09:36 Speaker 2: think I think that if they were to do it,

1:09:38 Speaker 2: they and it would to be like a productive way

1:09:41 Speaker 2: about doing it. You could do it, but I think

1:09:42 Speaker 2: you'd have to be like my fellow Americans. This upcoming Friday,

1:09:45 Speaker 2: we're going to be releasing to you a section of

1:09:47 Speaker 2: information that we will be sending every residence all over

1:09:52 Speaker 2: the world and all of their homes their own form

1:09:55 Speaker 2: of Basically, it would be a packet and it would

1:09:57 Speaker 2: be information of exactly everything that we have, and they

1:10:00 Speaker 2: would get that like maybe an hour or two before

1:10:02 Speaker 2: the actual broadcast, because then that gives you the ability

1:10:05 Speaker 2: to process that on your own.

1:10:06 Speaker 1: A global fucking briefing.

1:10:08 Speaker 2: That's the thing you needed to be global briefing for

1:10:10 Speaker 2: everybody to actually take it seriously, because because if it

1:10:13 Speaker 2: was just the United States, they're gonna be like, well,

1:10:15 Speaker 2: who the fuck knows if this is propaganda and they're

1:10:16 Speaker 2: just trying to lie to us so that way that

1:10:18 Speaker 2: they can get the deal that they made with China.

1:10:19 Speaker 2: Who knows. If it was global and China's doing it

1:10:22 Speaker 2: and Russia's doing it and everybody's doing it, then consensively

1:10:27 Speaker 2: humans as a species of the normal average person doesn't

1:10:30 Speaker 2: matter if you're from the US or if you're in

1:10:31 Speaker 2: some other country. That would be So that'd be a

1:10:34 Speaker 2: challenge though it would be and it's tough, Like would

1:10:37 Speaker 2: people who don't have address as a PO box? Is no, no, no, no, no, no,

1:10:40 Speaker 2: not even that fun, Like I think it needs to

1:10:42 Speaker 2: be done where they get information.

1:10:46 Speaker 1: In North Korea? Would he be down?

1:10:48 Speaker 2: That's I guess that's kind of up to him because

1:10:50 Speaker 2: he's kind of a special he's a special case because

1:10:52 Speaker 2: he's so strict with his own ruling. That's is not

1:10:56 Speaker 2: much because he already lies to those people about all kinds.

1:10:58 Speaker 2: So like we would just go business everyone else, you

1:11:01 Speaker 2: tell him about it, but chances are. He's probably not

1:11:03 Speaker 2: going to join in with us, and he'll keep that

1:11:05 Speaker 2: information to himself. He's probably putting the people. But that's

1:11:08 Speaker 2: the thing is I think you'd need to give out

1:11:10 Speaker 2: like a newspaper, a packet. You'd need to conglomerate all

1:11:12 Speaker 2: the information we have with pictures and proof, because you

1:11:15 Speaker 2: can't just say a sentence. You need to be like

1:11:17 Speaker 2: you can't just be like, oh, I saw it over

1:11:19 Speaker 2: here in Roswell. I saw it. I'm telling you it's real. No,

1:11:21 Speaker 2: they're gonna go, okay, Well, you could just be manipula.

1:11:23 Speaker 2: I need the physical picture of it, and I need

1:11:25 Speaker 2: you to tell me where the location is that this happened.

1:11:28 Speaker 2: I need dates, times, and it would have to be

1:11:30 Speaker 2: all the immediate direct information, kind of like that guy

1:11:33 Speaker 2: who's talking about the skiff and saying, yes, I have

1:11:35 Speaker 2: this information, I just need this room to do it. No,

1:11:38 Speaker 2: that that's the type of information that he has needs

1:11:40 Speaker 2: to be presented to everybody in some sort of packet, paper,

1:11:43 Speaker 2: page something, and then you basically you process that for

1:11:46 Speaker 2: an hour or two after already being told you're going

1:11:48 Speaker 2: to get that information. So now you have time to

1:11:50 Speaker 2: prepare and be like Okay, what's this information going to be?

1:11:52 Speaker 2: I can do exactly that. Prepare now you get there.

1:11:55 Speaker 1: Now you can choose whether you.

1:11:57 Speaker 2: Well you read it. Yeah, so you read it, and

1:11:59 Speaker 2: now you can go Okay, am I going to take

1:12:01 Speaker 2: the route of am I going to watch this and

1:12:03 Speaker 2: find out what's going on? Or am I going to

1:12:05 Speaker 2: start freaking out? Go great, create my bunker because there's aliens.

1:12:08 Speaker 2: But chances are people aren't going to freak out necessarily.

1:12:10 Speaker 2: I want to say right away as if they're given

1:12:12 Speaker 2: that information then told, we're going to give you a

1:12:14 Speaker 2: briefing couple hours after you've been given that information so

1:12:17 Speaker 2: it can digest in your brain and then you know,

1:12:20 Speaker 2: we can go over that as a again, because it

1:12:22 Speaker 2: would have to be United front. We are going to

1:12:24 Speaker 2: go over it as a species, as it's human beings.

1:12:27 Speaker 2: We're going to go over this this global information because

1:12:30 Speaker 2: it's not relegated to a country or a state or

1:12:32 Speaker 2: a continent. This is planetary. This is like taking all

1:12:35 Speaker 2: the stuff about you know Elon being like, oh we

1:12:37 Speaker 2: got to move to Mars. Okay, yeah, true, we do,

1:12:39 Speaker 2: you know the Mars thing, but this is an entire

1:12:42 Speaker 2: other third party part of that that's you know, now

1:12:44 Speaker 2: going to affect everything like that's.

1:12:46 Speaker 1: Think about the funding that would get into it all

1:12:48 Speaker 1: of a sudden.

1:12:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, you would get a lot of the deaths. It

1:12:51 Speaker 2: did be a little tough because you'd get a lot

1:12:53 Speaker 2: of those billionaires who are like, I want the I

1:12:54 Speaker 2: want the ships for myself so I can get the

1:12:56 Speaker 2: fuck out of here, And I mean like you probably

1:12:58 Speaker 2: get into charity things. But that's where like that kind

1:13:00 Speaker 2: of information is like Okay, now everyone's got this. That's

1:13:03 Speaker 2: where it kind of brings. You know, it'd have to

1:13:05 Speaker 2: be a human uniting together is because from there you

1:13:07 Speaker 2: take ideally you would take all the towns and cities

1:13:10 Speaker 2: that got that information and then you would then from

1:13:12 Speaker 2: there hold like a town hall or a city meeting.

1:13:14 Speaker 2: You'd have to have a like a conglomerate meeting where

1:13:16 Speaker 2: you tell everyone, listen, you get one thing that you

1:13:19 Speaker 2: need that you are curious about, that you need to

1:13:21 Speaker 2: ask for this that you want information on, you submit it,

1:13:23 Speaker 2: and at this time we will answer these without question.

1:13:26 Speaker 2: We're not gonna go back and forth with questioning because

1:13:28 Speaker 2: not everybody has time. We'll answer immediately what we have

1:13:30 Speaker 2: and then we can continue to schedule doing this further,

1:13:32 Speaker 2: thus uniting the people together as opposed to having them

1:13:36 Speaker 2: fight each other for you know stuff of like, Okay,

1:13:37 Speaker 2: this person's rich, they're gonna get that ship and get

1:13:39 Speaker 2: out of here. No, everybody's there. Someone's gonna go, I

1:13:42 Speaker 2: don't want that person to get the ship. And then

1:13:43 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to go, Okay, are we gonna unite

1:13:46 Speaker 2: as a human on this as a front and then

1:13:48 Speaker 2: start putting together a charity to work for all of

1:13:50 Speaker 2: us as you know, one united monopoly of humans or not?

1:13:53 Speaker 2: Because if not, I mean like it's gonna fall back

1:13:55 Speaker 2: into chaos. That's when you're gonna get people who are

1:13:57 Speaker 2: gonna start getting scared because people aren't together, so when

1:14:00 Speaker 2: they'll start doing looting and rioting.

1:14:01 Speaker 1: There is a chance in your scenario that this ends

1:14:07 Speaker 1: up uniting the world. Yeah, because it's kind of the

1:14:11 Speaker 1: opposite of what you're saying.

1:14:12 Speaker 2: You think about it, everybody was kicking in when Hitler

1:14:14 Speaker 2: was doing this ship, whether it was big or small.

1:14:17 Speaker 2: Everyone's like, yeah, this guy's got to go together. So

1:14:20 Speaker 2: it doesn't need to be an evil entity per se,

1:14:22 Speaker 2: Like it doesn't need to be some uh, the aliens

1:14:26 Speaker 2: don't need to have some like ultimate gold to destroy

1:14:28 Speaker 2: us and behind it's basically you're here, we want to

1:14:32 Speaker 2: get to where the fuck you are, and we we

1:14:34 Speaker 2: know we're better at it than you, because that's what

1:14:35 Speaker 2: the human species is. It's hey, we could do this,

1:14:37 Speaker 2: and we could do it better. So if unite the

1:14:40 Speaker 2: fucking species together in a space race for another species

1:14:44 Speaker 2: that already can do it, how quick do you think

1:14:46 Speaker 2: that we'd fucking nail the light speed travel back and

1:14:48 Speaker 2: forth and we'd probably colonize Mars in like half the

1:14:51 Speaker 2: time of what it would normally take. Still, forever it

1:14:55 Speaker 2: shortened it.

1:14:56 Speaker 1: Do you hear that? Deep state? I think so? Do

1:15:00 Speaker 1: you know what I think the secrecy comes down to

1:15:02 Speaker 1: is greed, greed and power.

1:15:04 Speaker 2: Without the money, you don't get the control. If you

1:15:06 Speaker 2: don't get the control, you don't get the money back

1:15:08 Speaker 2: in So it's like you need to create a like

1:15:10 Speaker 2: a feedback loop of negativity, which is why that's one

1:15:13 Speaker 2: thing I always say when it's like it, it goes

1:15:16 Speaker 2: down to the thing like if the entire planet, all

1:15:18 Speaker 2: of humans were to be raised, the planet would be

1:15:20 Speaker 2: fucking fine. The planet, yeah, it would. There wouldn't be

1:15:25 Speaker 2: stress about like if you know, humans weren't here for

1:15:27 Speaker 2: that to happen. So it's like that that has its

1:15:29 Speaker 2: own whole thing.

1:15:30 Speaker 1: What do you do You think there's a good chance.

1:15:37 Speaker 1: And I want to ask this legitimately, dude, I don't

1:15:41 Speaker 1: want to get real on you.

1:15:42 Speaker 2: You can get real. I don't care.

1:15:47 Speaker 1: Are you afraid to die?

1:15:49 Speaker 2: No, I believe it or not in a non macabre way.

1:15:52 Speaker 2: I'm kind of excited because it's like, no nobody knows

1:15:54 Speaker 2: what happens. I'm kind of curious.

1:15:56 Speaker 1: Really, I mean, like, are you dead serious time?

1:16:00 Speaker 2: I know. I mean obviously I don't want to die

1:16:01 Speaker 2: in some crazy horrible way, but like you know, natural causes,

1:16:04 Speaker 2: you know, live and live a good enough life. It's

1:16:06 Speaker 2: like it's for me, it's something like at the end,

1:16:09 Speaker 2: like I said, it comes off in a macabre way,

1:16:11 Speaker 2: but it's like I don't know something else that nobody

1:16:15 Speaker 2: knows and no one has any real life.

1:16:16 Speaker 1: We're all gonna do it.

1:16:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens to everybody. I'm just curious. I'm like

1:16:21 Speaker 2: a naturally.

1:16:21 Speaker 1: Likes to get to that line.

1:16:23 Speaker 2: No, that's the thing. I you know, I've had my

1:16:26 Speaker 2: ups and downs in life where I have portions of

1:16:28 Speaker 2: my life. That's what I've wanted, but like I can.

1:16:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm fucking terrified of it, but I think I

1:16:33 Speaker 1: think it almost I think it's almost like handcuffs. When

1:16:38 Speaker 1: you're afraid to die, you you won't take risk, right,

1:16:43 Speaker 1: And I think I think part of what makes humans

1:16:48 Speaker 1: unique is risks, and like we will risk going to

1:16:52 Speaker 1: the moon, right, but that could have been terrible.

1:16:56 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's almost on the risk there which we

1:16:59 Speaker 2: which we talked about too before about people not being

1:17:01 Speaker 2: responsive and I'm not wanting to like actually indulge in

1:17:04 Speaker 2: the fact that there's other life that's those handcuffs because

1:17:08 Speaker 2: those people are, like I am limited. If I even

1:17:11 Speaker 2: try to reach for that over there, the water to

1:17:13 Speaker 2: my left, I'm never gonna grab. So what's the point.

1:17:16 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with this and go with what

1:17:18 Speaker 2: I know. So now they're just stuck. And that's that's

1:17:21 Speaker 2: where you get a lot of those people who I mean,

1:17:23 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm some sort of special case

1:17:25 Speaker 2: because I don't want to, like, you know, look at

1:17:27 Speaker 2: myself like that. But throughout the last couple of years,

1:17:29 Speaker 2: and I mean, actually a good way to do is

1:17:31 Speaker 2: you could use it for a humans on a hole

1:17:33 Speaker 2: as someone you know, bettering themselves through their evolutionary way,

1:17:36 Speaker 2: is consistently trying to break out of that. There may

1:17:39 Speaker 2: only be you know, a small percentage of people that

1:17:41 Speaker 2: have that, like, you know, I'm going to break the

1:17:43 Speaker 2: cycle type of deal. The favorite thing a quote of

1:17:47 Speaker 2: mind from a great video game is always this character

1:17:49 Speaker 2: named Fossma a game called far Cry, and he goes,

1:17:51 Speaker 2: what is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing

1:17:53 Speaker 2: over and over and over and over, expect expecting a

1:17:56 Speaker 2: different result.

1:17:57 Speaker 1: That's really Einstein's quote, is it?

1:18:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so, but it's so doing something different and

1:18:03 Speaker 2: then the result that you were expecting to happen from

1:18:06 Speaker 2: not doing anything actually happens, and you're like, oh shit,

1:18:08 Speaker 2: that's that's a thing.

1:18:09 Speaker 1: That's happening doing the same thing expecting.

1:18:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, so to break that that creates you know, that

1:18:16 Speaker 2: that creates us the people that are wanting to yeah,

1:18:19 Speaker 2: and you want to explore those realms of possibilities, and

1:18:22 Speaker 2: you're more accepting. And that's why we're even having this

1:18:24 Speaker 2: conversation to begin with, is because we're on the you know,

1:18:27 Speaker 2: select few people that can you know, be open to

1:18:30 Speaker 2: that because you know, even though it's scary to think

1:18:33 Speaker 2: of those shackles on your hand, like death, it's you.

1:18:36 Speaker 2: You don't you don't sit there and just look at them.

1:18:38 Speaker 2: You start to go, can I take these off? Why

1:18:41 Speaker 2: are they here? Who's stopping me? And where where do

1:18:44 Speaker 2: I go? What's the next step? As opposed to just

1:18:46 Speaker 2: go and then just sit down there? Yeah, so like you.

1:18:49 Speaker 1: Think, because you could, you could, like you said, you

1:18:52 Speaker 1: can think of them as handcuffs.

1:18:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

1:18:56 Speaker 1: You're right, I'd be like, all right, how these come off?

1:18:59 Speaker 2: I think that it's what? Well, what else scares you

1:19:02 Speaker 2: about death?

1:19:04 Speaker 1: The finality of it?

1:19:05 Speaker 2: Yeah?

1:19:06 Speaker 1: Well, because right now what we know is what we

1:19:12 Speaker 1: don't know, right and we what we don't know is

1:19:15 Speaker 1: that there's something actually after it. We have cases of

1:19:18 Speaker 1: near death experience from most people come back fucking they're

1:19:23 Speaker 1: like it was the best, like that whatever that is.

1:19:27 Speaker 1: I wanted to stay. I didn't want to come back,

1:19:30 Speaker 1: but something told me I had to write. And so

1:19:34 Speaker 1: we do have cases where people have you see, you're

1:19:38 Speaker 1: seeing this it's like every three seconds. Now it's like

1:19:42 Speaker 1: this like biblical flash.

1:19:45 Speaker 2: But we're getting all the good stuff in this episode.

1:19:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess this was might this might have been

1:19:51 Speaker 1: pretty destined. But so you can definitely.

1:19:57 Speaker 2: Hear like it's loud enough to like rumble, the muffling

1:20:01 Speaker 2: of the like the wall, you can hear it through

1:20:03 Speaker 2: the wall, and the window is closed to I know,

1:20:08 Speaker 2: the window is closed, so you can hear that through

1:20:11 Speaker 2: the window.

1:20:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, but yeah, the finality of it. And obviously,

1:20:20 Speaker 1: I like, I love life, right, like, I genuinely love

1:20:25 Speaker 1: living and it's the only thing I know and I

1:20:28 Speaker 1: don't want to not be living it. So if there

1:20:31 Speaker 1: is even a zero point zero zero zero zero zero

1:20:34 Speaker 1: zero one percent chance that is because what what do

1:20:38 Speaker 1: you remember from before birth?

1:20:41 Speaker 2: Nothing that I can recall?

1:20:43 Speaker 1: Blackness, Yeah, not literally.

1:20:47 Speaker 2: That the same nothing kind of like it's nothing. It's

1:20:49 Speaker 2: it's that like r E M cycle when you go

1:20:52 Speaker 2: to bed before you're starting to dream, but like you're

1:20:54 Speaker 2: losing your consciousness and you just see the back of

1:20:56 Speaker 2: your eyelids in the darkness of your room. You just

1:20:58 Speaker 2: kind of it's that little like midway space that you

1:21:01 Speaker 2: float in for a second before you go into your

1:21:04 Speaker 2: actual dreams. It's that kind of realm, is what you

1:21:07 Speaker 2: like when you open your eyes and that's that's that

1:21:10 Speaker 2: only you know, Like same deal with the spinal fluid thing.

1:21:13 Speaker 2: It's like that's in your spine of like you know,

1:21:15 Speaker 2: that's you. That's an experience you know that you had,

1:21:18 Speaker 2: but you can't really remember that or anything that's before it.

1:21:20 Speaker 2: Like you don't remember like any of the light that's

1:21:22 Speaker 2: coming through your mother's stomach when she's sitting out in

1:21:25 Speaker 2: the sun and the sun's going through the stomach and

1:21:27 Speaker 2: you know it actually lights it up. So that's those

1:21:30 Speaker 2: are thoughts that you know, you know, yeah, especially I

1:21:34 Speaker 2: mean also, I mean just going into how humans are

1:21:36 Speaker 2: created to begin with.

1:21:37 Speaker 1: Is just it's wild. Yeah, it's wild, so wild.

1:21:41 Speaker 2: To see develop it, not just you know, like it's beautiful,

1:21:46 Speaker 2: Yeah it is, yeah, because it's really beautiful, not just

1:21:50 Speaker 2: on it, like I don't know what it is, not

1:21:51 Speaker 2: on like a molecular DNA scale. On a molecular DNA scale,

1:21:55 Speaker 2: it's immaculate because of the amount of information that's composed

1:21:57 Speaker 2: into what creates you. But then to fill we actually

1:22:00 Speaker 2: watch it flourish and come into reality.

1:22:03 Speaker 1: Is like go from nothing to something. And I think

1:22:07 Speaker 1: that is what the human race is ultimately meant to do,

1:22:13 Speaker 1: is to create that next form of life, and I

1:22:16 Speaker 1: think that might be what we're doing.

1:22:19 Speaker 2: Humans are just we're designed to just procreate, produce more

1:22:23 Speaker 2: humans until you eventually.

1:22:26 Speaker 1: But that's every species, right, What do we do that's different? Again?

1:22:33 Speaker 1: We can't stop creating.

1:22:36 Speaker 2: We think about it.

1:22:37 Speaker 1: We just we know we're constantly innovating. We're never satisfied

1:22:41 Speaker 1: with what we're doing, right, We're always pushing the edge,

1:22:45 Speaker 1: pushing the envelope, pushing what is reality? Right. Dolphins, as

1:22:50 Speaker 1: smart as they are, they're not sitting at tables that

1:22:53 Speaker 1: we know of. They might be the aliens. They might

1:22:56 Speaker 1: have evolved underwater completely on the notes to humans at

1:23:01 Speaker 1: the same time or way before, and just split off.

1:23:05 Speaker 1: They took off and they're in the ocean now. But

1:23:08 Speaker 1: dolphins aren't sitting having this conversation. We all right, and

1:23:14 Speaker 1: there's a reason the human species. But we could stop

1:23:17 Speaker 1: right now, right this second. We could stop innovating technologically

1:23:22 Speaker 1: and we can all probably live really good. This iPhone

1:23:25 Speaker 1: works fine, it really does. If we could just make

1:23:29 Speaker 1: this iPhone, just service this iPhone, make new ones of

1:23:34 Speaker 1: this iPhone, never upgrade it, right, we'd be fine. We

1:23:38 Speaker 1: could stop all innovation, right now and just maintain technology

1:23:43 Speaker 1: at its current level and we'd be fine, but that's

1:23:46 Speaker 1: not an option for us. So I think our destiny

1:23:51 Speaker 1: as a collective is to create that next form of life,

1:23:57 Speaker 1: and that's where AI is, right, and what if AI

1:24:01 Speaker 1: is just to beacon right now? Now hear me on this.

1:24:06 Speaker 1: It's you've heard the singular, the term the singularity.

1:24:09 Speaker 2: I've heard it, but I've never heard it explain.

1:24:11 Speaker 1: So what the singularity is is essentially the next step

1:24:15 Speaker 1: in whatever. Because if you think about how evolution works,

1:24:20 Speaker 1: like standard evolution, and like, I'm not in it's not

1:24:24 Speaker 1: that I'm I don't believe in evolution.

1:24:25 Speaker 2: I do.

1:24:26 Speaker 1: I think that absolutely. It is a thing. Yeah, like

1:24:30 Speaker 1: adapting to your environment.

1:24:32 Speaker 2: Like we see it all plenty of countless species developing

1:24:35 Speaker 2: different defense mechanisms, all kinds of Yeah.

1:24:37 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's as major as it's like

1:24:42 Speaker 1: maybe over the spans of I don't know. I could

1:24:47 Speaker 1: take a whole podcast on this, and I won't do that.

1:24:50 Speaker 1: I won't make people suffer right now, But okay, so shit,

1:24:55 Speaker 1: I just lost my train of thought.

1:24:58 Speaker 2: Where was I we were talking about?

1:25:00 Speaker 1: Let's see, Okay, so right, we're not going to evolve.

1:25:06 Speaker 1: There's nothing that's challenging us physically. Right now we are

1:25:09 Speaker 1: the apex, right, we're the top of the.

1:25:11 Speaker 2: Food, the equivalent. We need to get the next thumb.

1:25:14 Speaker 2: That's what it is. It won't be physical, no, yeah,

1:25:17 Speaker 2: it'll be it'll be like on.

1:25:19 Speaker 1: The inside, it'll be conscious evolution will be on next stage.

1:25:23 Speaker 1: It'll be getting like smarter or.

1:25:25 Speaker 2: Maybe that's why they have the video, like the pictures

1:25:27 Speaker 2: of people projecting the idea that we'll have bigger heads

1:25:29 Speaker 2: and longer fingers.

1:25:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta ask yourself, right, yeah, future Yeah what mm hmmm,

1:25:38 Speaker 1: it's look at me, right, I'm like a smaller person.

1:25:44 Speaker 1: And I come from the time where people were growing

1:25:50 Speaker 1: rapidly from the older generation, right, because like the World

1:25:53 Speaker 1: War two era that they were smaller, right, and then

1:25:59 Speaker 1: like the eighties and nineties hit and like we started

1:26:04 Speaker 1: growing exponentially, right, So it's weird and then we just

1:26:09 Speaker 1: kind of drop back down because the most efficient form

1:26:13 Speaker 1: is actually probably three to five feet. Yeah, it's three

1:26:17 Speaker 1: to five feet. It's ideal. And I just think, like

1:26:22 Speaker 1: you said, like, nothing's challenging us physically, right, there's no time.

1:26:27 Speaker 1: I mean, the tiger could jump on me and eat me.

1:26:29 Speaker 1: But we can build a house and stay away from

1:26:31 Speaker 1: the fucking tiger.

1:26:32 Speaker 2: We have thumb.

1:26:33 Speaker 1: We can build a gun and shoot the tiger man.

1:26:37 Speaker 1: We win. So you know, nothing's challenging us. So our

1:26:43 Speaker 1: next stage will be a conscious evolution. And I think

1:26:46 Speaker 1: that might be what that entails is maybe bigger heads, right.

1:26:51 Speaker 2: The could be unlocking it. The network that the human

1:26:55 Speaker 2: bodies is one consciousness. It's all just being spread out

1:26:58 Speaker 2: through physical fiss.

1:27:01 Speaker 1: Well, that's why I think it is. Anyway, there's a

1:27:04 Speaker 1: famous quote that the number of the number of minds

1:27:07 Speaker 1: in the universe is one. Right. It's like this idea

1:27:11 Speaker 1: of the ether the muse. Right, you you're your musician type,

1:27:16 Speaker 1: artist type, like a lot of artists and musicians say that,

1:27:22 Speaker 1: you know, the melody just is coming through them. The

1:27:27 Speaker 1: art is it's not them, it's the muse coming through

1:27:30 Speaker 1: them and using them as a tool, and like makes

1:27:35 Speaker 1: you wonder, makes because like the root word of amusement, right,

1:27:39 Speaker 1: the muse music the muse. Right, So you start looking

1:27:43 Speaker 1: into these things and like the muse is essentially just

1:27:48 Speaker 1: the idea that like we're all extensions of the same

1:27:53 Speaker 1: consciousness and what God really is is the universe. So

1:27:57 Speaker 1: the universe is living, it's garnering as much conscious it's

1:28:05 Speaker 1: living all lives simultaneously, right, It's it's essentially living every

1:28:12 Speaker 1: condition at the same time, because it's living as a

1:28:14 Speaker 1: poor girl in Chicago and as a dying mouse or

1:28:19 Speaker 1: rat out on the sidewalk and Waltham. Ye that I

1:28:22 Speaker 1: end up saying. So on Sunday, I my my girlfriend

1:28:26 Speaker 1: is walking to the store that's right up the street

1:28:28 Speaker 1: because you know, you know how my roads are one way. Yeah,

1:28:32 Speaker 1: it's easier to walk to the store the communial service

1:28:35 Speaker 1: than it is to drive because you have to drive

1:28:37 Speaker 1: all the way around to get back to the one way.

1:28:40 Speaker 1: That's how cities are fucking Boston East Coast cities at least.

1:28:45 Speaker 1: And she was walking and she comes upon like a

1:28:48 Speaker 1: what she thought we thought it was a squirrel. It

1:28:51 Speaker 1: was a baby baby, it was do The thing hadn't

1:28:54 Speaker 1: opened its eyes yet, and it was just sitting on

1:28:58 Speaker 1: the sidewalk in the beat. Son the lady that came

1:29:04 Speaker 1: out of the house, she goes, oh, there's always animals

1:29:07 Speaker 1: right there. Just leave it. Let mother nature take its course. Listen,

1:29:11 Speaker 1: I understand the bitch today I am Mother Nature and

1:29:16 Speaker 1: all life is precious and I'm not letting this little

1:29:19 Speaker 1: guy die.

1:29:20 Speaker 2: Well, technically we're a product of mother nature and she

1:29:22 Speaker 2: is doing it by putting you there in that path.

1:29:25 Speaker 1: So we put it in a box. That's Sunday. I

1:29:30 Speaker 1: was my day off Saturday and Sunday and my day's off.

1:29:32 Speaker 1: But Saturdays, like I do a lot of podcast work,

1:29:35 Speaker 1: ye and at nights clearly I do a lot of

1:29:37 Speaker 1: podcast work, as you can see. So Sunday's my day

1:29:43 Speaker 1: day off, like completely off, and I just brought I

1:29:47 Speaker 1: was like protective. We put it in a box and

1:29:50 Speaker 1: like I had just calling around to different rehabs and

1:29:53 Speaker 1: we found some lady that's going to rehab the most.

1:29:56 Speaker 1: And then because there's something called re nesting, but I'm

1:30:00 Speaker 1: in a city, we don't know where the nest is. Yeah,

1:30:03 Speaker 1: it's not obvious where it is. So there's no chance

1:30:07 Speaker 1: we can renest because putting renesting.

1:30:10 Speaker 2: Means going and putting in the same one that it was.

1:30:12 Speaker 1: In the same place, so the mother come back and

1:30:15 Speaker 1: get it. But if I put it in the same place,

1:30:17 Speaker 1: it's going to be on the beating sun sidewalk. It's

1:30:20 Speaker 1: gonna die.

1:30:20 Speaker 2: Yeah.

1:30:21 Speaker 1: So I was like, I have to take it, put

1:30:23 Speaker 1: it in a box, kept it warm because they can't

1:30:24 Speaker 1: regulate their temperature at that age, and we saved it.

1:30:29 Speaker 1: And people think I'm like weird. I won't kill like

1:30:33 Speaker 1: a spider. Bro That spider does more for.

1:30:37 Speaker 2: You, keeps your house free of other bugs.

1:30:41 Speaker 1: So I make the deal with the spider, and people

1:30:43 Speaker 1: call me crazy. I'm like, just don't break this bubble

1:30:48 Speaker 1: or my girlfriend's bubble, because if you do that, I

1:30:51 Speaker 1: have to get you out of the house. I won't

1:30:53 Speaker 1: kill you. Yeah, I might if you freak me out. Yea,

1:30:56 Speaker 1: you know, well, but I will put you in a cup.

1:31:00 Speaker 1: If you break my personal space, you gotta leave. But

1:31:03 Speaker 1: you can live here rent free. I got you. Just

1:31:05 Speaker 1: eat those other So I think all life is precious, right,

1:31:11 Speaker 1: And I don't know, you think I'm.

1:31:14 Speaker 2: Crazy, No, not at all. I probably would have. I mean,

1:31:16 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have done the same thing,

1:31:17 Speaker 2: because I don't I don't know if I would have

1:31:19 Speaker 2: had the confidence of myself to save it. But at

1:31:21 Speaker 2: the same time, it's like, I, you know, there's so

1:31:23 Speaker 2: many different things that I'm like trying to consistently save

1:31:26 Speaker 2: that it's like sometimes you wish you had more power

1:31:30 Speaker 2: so you could do more, so you could so you

1:31:32 Speaker 2: could save more.

1:31:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was I'll put this up on the camera

1:31:36 Speaker 1: as well. So this was Jess feeding him. Bro. His

1:31:48 Speaker 1: eyes weren't even open. His eyes weren't even open. You

1:31:52 Speaker 1: guys will see this. We were giving him a pedia life.

1:31:54 Speaker 2: Know, maybe I would have taken him like even in

1:31:56 Speaker 2: that state I was. I was expecting him tv even

1:31:59 Speaker 2: more flat on the ground. But that's like, that's that

1:32:02 Speaker 2: is savable.

1:32:05 Speaker 1: So he was. We thought he was a squirrel and

1:32:10 Speaker 1: then the the one of the ladies we talked to goes, no,

1:32:13 Speaker 1: it's a rat, bro, And I'm like, oh, well, she's

1:32:16 Speaker 1: like and then she like, she's like I don't take rats,

1:32:20 Speaker 1: like it was some like a squirrel and a rats.

1:32:23 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, okay, lady, whatever, like we'll find someone else.

1:32:27 Speaker 1: But like, like her demeanor changed once she figured out

1:32:30 Speaker 1: it was a rat not a squirrel, And I'm like,

1:32:32 Speaker 1: that's crazy to me.

1:32:34 Speaker 2: That's still an animal with feelings and logic.

1:32:37 Speaker 1: He doesn't deserve it. I named him how for hal

1:32:39 Speaker 1: Jordan because he just needed a little will power to live.

1:32:43 Speaker 1: He needed a little will to live a little bit longer,

1:32:46 Speaker 1: how and he's doing great. He's doing great. I'll show

1:32:49 Speaker 1: you a little picture of him. Now this was two

1:32:52 Speaker 1: days ago, obviously, don't you But yeah, I don't know.

1:32:57 Speaker 3: Life.

1:32:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, life is very It's more more precious than words

1:33:03 Speaker 2: can describe.

1:33:05 Speaker 1: And I want to make this.

1:33:20 Speaker 2: I was gonna say it is getting late.

1:33:23 Speaker 1: But yeah, I I I think I think it was

1:33:28 Speaker 1: the right choice save and you know, and uh so

1:33:32 Speaker 1: one last thing I want to I want to ask you,

1:33:34 Speaker 1: and we'll close out on this. I know, guys, it's

1:33:37 Speaker 1: been a little bit of a crazy episode, but I really,

1:33:41 Speaker 1: I really really like good job again. And I know

1:33:45 Speaker 1: because people are gonna watch and they're gonna listen and

1:33:47 Speaker 1: they're like, you know, they they just rattled off a

1:33:51 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. If you're listening, I would say, probably

1:33:54 Speaker 1: watch on YouTube. It's probably more fun. But I do

1:33:57 Speaker 1: want to have more of these conversations where like I

1:33:59 Speaker 1: don't necessarily have like a well known guest on I

1:34:04 Speaker 1: just like having conversations, So I do want to I

1:34:07 Speaker 1: want to do more of that where it's kind of

1:34:09 Speaker 1: just like free, free to talk about whatever.

1:34:13 Speaker 2: Free to have like regular human discussions. About like just things.

1:34:19 Speaker 1: Like I think, like I would watch I I know,

1:34:23 Speaker 1: and I shouldn't even be saying any of this because

1:34:25 Speaker 1: you know, people, people love people love these kinds of conversations.

1:34:29 Speaker 1: So I want to ask you one more thing, you, hm,

1:34:34 Speaker 1: is there any chance that that because I know you

1:34:42 Speaker 1: kind of lean, you're leaning towards probably the reincarnation thing

1:34:45 Speaker 1: that we talked about, But is there any existence where

1:34:49 Speaker 1: you think there's a slight possibility that, like one of

1:34:53 Speaker 1: the religions has it right? That God does exist? Is

1:34:58 Speaker 1: heaven and out?

1:34:59 Speaker 2: Because well, it boils down into the same thing about

1:35:02 Speaker 2: the storder. I mean, like it may not be in

1:35:03 Speaker 2: our reality, but it doesn't mean that I shouldn't, you know,

1:35:06 Speaker 2: cut my belief off of it because I you know,

1:35:09 Speaker 2: it might not be in my reality doesn't mean it

1:35:11 Speaker 2: doesn't exist, just maybe not in mine.

1:35:13 Speaker 1: But what if you got to the pearly gates and

1:35:17 Speaker 1: they were like, you can't come in? Is what it

1:35:22 Speaker 1: is because you didn't you didn't live the way we

1:35:25 Speaker 1: told you to.

1:35:26 Speaker 2: The best thing I can do is say I'm sorry.

1:35:29 Speaker 2: Is there anything I can do? That's about the best

1:35:32 Speaker 2: I can do is be like, is there anything I

1:35:33 Speaker 2: can do to get in there. No, okay, I'll just

1:35:35 Speaker 2: tell you. I'll take my take my punches as I

1:35:37 Speaker 2: get them. So going down there, it is what it is.

1:35:41 Speaker 2: It's the same deal. You're gonna keep fighting it. It's

1:35:43 Speaker 2: not gonna be worse.

1:35:45 Speaker 1: What do you believe, like like all right before, because

1:35:48 Speaker 1: I I opened it with, give me your elevator pitch

1:35:51 Speaker 1: of what you think UFOs might be. Give what if

1:35:58 Speaker 1: I if you were to, if I were if I

1:36:02 Speaker 1: was holding a gun to your head and I said,

1:36:03 Speaker 1: tell me what you believe in your heart? What? What

1:36:06 Speaker 1: is it? What? What do you believe happens after we die?

1:36:09 Speaker 2: Probably some part of that idea that you get, you know,

1:36:13 Speaker 2: maybe like a glimpse of like what's going on as

1:36:15 Speaker 2: the universe for a whole consciousness. You might get that

1:36:18 Speaker 2: because your physical form is dissolved enough that you know

1:36:21 Speaker 2: your consciousness is still there inactive until you know you

1:36:25 Speaker 2: get put back into maybe a reincarnation situation where now

1:36:28 Speaker 2: your body has decayed, gone into nutrients into the planet

1:36:31 Speaker 2: that's now turned into nutrients for potentially trees, which produce

1:36:34 Speaker 2: oxygen that other people breathe, creating other cellular life and structure.

1:36:37 Speaker 2: To be able to even thrive to begin with the confidence, yeah,

1:36:41 Speaker 2: and then from there.

1:36:43 Speaker 1: To hold this kind of conversation with someone. And like

1:36:48 Speaker 1: I said, I'm looking to definitely have someone you know

1:36:52 Speaker 1: in studio to help out. And uh, you know, I

1:36:55 Speaker 1: think I think what I mean, did you you have fun?

1:36:58 Speaker 2: Yeah? And I think that like it would be really

1:37:00 Speaker 2: cool to actually start, you know, being around when you

1:37:02 Speaker 2: do have guests in because like I also, like I

1:37:05 Speaker 2: love talking, but I'm like, such it wasn't good in

1:37:08 Speaker 2: school because I wasn't getting you know, the enthusiasm behind

1:37:11 Speaker 2: the topics that I wanted. But with topics like this

1:37:13 Speaker 2: and like you know, the people that you tell me

1:37:15 Speaker 2: that you have in here, that's like all kinds of information.

1:37:17 Speaker 2: My brain's like, yo, I want to know that what

1:37:20 Speaker 2: I would like, that's really cool information and that've heard

1:37:22 Speaker 2: that person themselves based off of their story, really cool.

1:37:25 Speaker 1: Like I've been in and like like really quick, sometimes

1:37:32 Speaker 1: I've pinched myself. Yeah, because I'm not even like I'm

1:37:36 Speaker 1: not Joe Rogan, I'm not I'm not Danny Jones, I'm

1:37:41 Speaker 1: not Theovonne. I'm not like I don't have four million subscribes,

1:37:46 Speaker 1: but I I have walked a nuclear controller into a

1:37:54 Speaker 1: sitting member of Congress's office hours after she chaired a

1:37:59 Speaker 1: hearing on you UFOs and watched and sat and been

1:38:04 Speaker 1: the reason. After fifty years, this guy, Bob's Alice was

1:38:10 Speaker 1: finally able to tell his story to a sitting member

1:38:12 Speaker 1: of Congress. I made that happen. I had my name

1:38:17 Speaker 1: on a chair in Congress. I watched them testify. I've

1:38:23 Speaker 1: you know, I was just that contact in the desert.

1:38:28 Speaker 1: I like some of the places and some of the

1:38:31 Speaker 1: people that I've talked to, like I just I like,

1:38:34 Speaker 1: sit back and I'm like, I'm so like, this is

1:38:39 Speaker 1: exactly what I want to do. Yeah, right, this is

1:38:42 Speaker 1: exactly where I want to be. And I think I'm

1:38:44 Speaker 1: in the right spot, exactly where I'm supposed to be,

1:38:47 Speaker 1: exactly as planned. And I think you are too. So

1:38:51 Speaker 1: thank you for doing. Thank you for We'll have you back,

1:38:55 Speaker 1: for being.

1:38:59 Speaker 2: A lot of fun.

1:39:00 Speaker 1: No, And it was really good to be able to

1:39:01 Speaker 1: get something, like I said, some of the kinks out

1:39:03 Speaker 1: and start working on because I did an episode in

1:39:05 Speaker 1: a year already with Gene and nat Sticko, which is

1:39:08 Speaker 1: probably out already. But by the time this is out,

1:39:12 Speaker 1: so you know I've got it. But even in that one,

1:39:16 Speaker 1: the microphones won't work in the right way. So I

1:39:18 Speaker 1: do use the clip ons, and so it's nice to

1:39:21 Speaker 1: be like get these kind of like kind of like

1:39:24 Speaker 1: test runs in not that you're a test run, but

1:39:26 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, for everyone watching, for

1:39:29 Speaker 1: everyone listening. Again, I like to do the housekeeping. So

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1:39:37 Speaker 1: make sure to like, share, subscribe, share with your friends,

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1:39:51 Speaker 1: Just kidding. I am not a CIA operative. I promise

1:39:54 Speaker 1: leave a like, a follow, and if you can a

1:39:57 Speaker 1: favorable review on those podcast platforms like Spotify and Apple,

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1:40:04 Speaker 1: stuff you can do. It takes twenty seconds, really helps

1:40:06 Speaker 1: the show. You can take it a step further. And

1:40:09 Speaker 1: again I'm not one to do this and ask like this,

1:40:13 Speaker 1: but I always need, I need to start throwing it in.

1:40:16 Speaker 1: We can. You can support the channel by becoming a

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1:40:21 Speaker 1: ninety nine to nine ninety nine. You pay what the

1:40:24 Speaker 1: show is worth to you. Everyone gets the same benefits.

1:40:27 Speaker 1: It's just early access to podcasts and ad free versions

1:40:31 Speaker 1: so no ads, and you get them early, sometimes months early.

1:40:35 Speaker 1: So again, it's what you think the show is worth

1:40:38 Speaker 1: to you. And you know I'll be tacking on more benefits.

1:40:41 Speaker 1: And we've done it so that you like, two ninety

1:40:45 Speaker 1: nine is unclassified, oh yeah, to uh uh four ninety

1:40:49 Speaker 1: nine is classified, and then nine nine nine is top secret.

1:40:53 Speaker 1: So like they're there. We don't call them YouTube members,

1:40:56 Speaker 1: we call them assets like operatives and show. So yeah,

1:41:00 Speaker 1: we're having some fun to think guys. So definitely like

1:41:03 Speaker 1: so much more to come, so much I cannot wait

1:41:06 Speaker 1: to see like where this takes off. So thank you

1:41:10 Speaker 1: Fox for being a part of it, and for everyone

1:41:12 Speaker 1: else you know what it is. As always, I'll see

1:41:14 Speaker 1: you on the other side.

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